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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to lakeig Is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, February fourteenth, Happy Valentine's Day, in

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Speaker 2: the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty one. Were jam

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Speaker 2: packed winter storm not keeping us off air. It could, however,

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Speaker 2: keep us from getting out of here. More on that

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Speaker 2: in just a second. I was watching a movie actually

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Speaker 2: the other night. It's on Amazon right now. It's called

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Speaker 2: Shackleton's Captain. Fascinating kind of movie slash documentary about this

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Speaker 2: crew in the early nineteen hundreds that gets stranded in Antarctica.

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Speaker 2: And I bring that up only because a quick peek

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Speaker 2: outside of the window right now looks about like what

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Speaker 2: they dealt with when they were stranded in Antarctica.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Colin and I have the dog sleds all teed up

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Speaker 2: or ready to go. If food run short, we may

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Speaker 2: have a difficult decision to make in the parking lot,

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Speaker 2: but here we are. Nevertheless, I don't know what Thursday's

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Speaker 2: going to look like. We got terrible weather all we

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Speaker 2: care in Nationhviale, so we plan on being here live Thursday. However,

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Speaker 2: we have also tossed around on some ideas. I guess

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Speaker 2: I can kind of share them with you right now.

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Speaker 2: They're not certain, so it's just an idea. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we do the Late Kick Extra podcast Tuesday morning, Thursday morning.

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Speaker 2: It's all mail bag, and so I've been toying around

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Speaker 2: for a little while now with the concept of what

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Speaker 2: we could do to make that into a video product

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Speaker 2: every now and then if we hit certain benchmarks.

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Speaker 1: So I've got some ideas.

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Speaker 2: So let's just try this out, cause it worked when

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Speaker 2: we were trying to get to one thousand and five

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Speaker 2: star reviews.

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Speaker 1: That worked just like that. So I look at my

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Speaker 1: Twitter account right now.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say when it gets to thirteen thousand followers,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do something really fun. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: extremely interactive, about as interactive as we can possibly get

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Speaker 2: without you coming over to my apartment. And if legal

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Speaker 2: would let me do that, I probably do that too,

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Speaker 2: because it gets lonely up here. Let's just say when

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Speaker 2: the thirteen thousand followers benchmark gets passed on Twitter, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna do something really fun with that. But as for tonight,

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Speaker 2: we've got the Arkansas and Florida state mood trackers. I

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Speaker 2: got to talk about something that I don't think we've

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Speaker 2: spoken about on Late Cack either the pod or the

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Speaker 2: YouTube show yet and that is this entire dead period situation.

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Speaker 2: I don't go into the extreme weeds of recruiting a

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Speaker 2: lot of times, cause some of you are hardcore recruiting

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Speaker 2: fans and you care about it. Many more are casual fans.

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Speaker 2: Wake me up on signing day, let me know who

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Speaker 2: signed with my team, etc. But this stuff matters, It

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Speaker 2: matters a lot. They're varying opinions, wildly varying opinions on it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to get to that in just a second.

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Speaker 2: Actually I'm going to kick it off. And also, as

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Speaker 2: I looked over twenty twenty and I continue to do

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Speaker 2: it more and more, I really think we've been fooled

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Speaker 2: potentially by many programs. And I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 2: more about what I think there because I've been getting

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Speaker 2: feedback from a lot of you, especially Penn State fans

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Speaker 2: and outsiders looking at Penn State or LSU or all

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Speaker 2: kinds of programs, and I think that we've forgotten the

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Speaker 2: twenty is just like replaced your entire, your entire idea

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Speaker 2: and I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about that and more tonight.

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Speaker 2: I remember, subscribe to the twenty four seven Sports YouTube

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Speaker 2: channel if you haven't already. And a lot of you

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Speaker 2: also have noticed these pretty new graphics we have and

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Speaker 2: the director of Collins Vocals and the new entrance music,

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Speaker 2: and so we're doing a lot of things here. As

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Speaker 2: I told you the other night, you've given us a

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Speaker 2: lot of traction. A lot of people have taken notice.

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Speaker 2: So we've got an entire team way away from us

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Speaker 2: up in Connecticut, probably similar weather, but they're pulling the

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Speaker 2: ideas up there. We're tinkering with things, we're mixing, we're matching,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your feedback. I got a lot of emails

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Speaker 2: and a lot of dms from you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Is like ninety eight percent positive last week or last show?

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Speaker 2: We had, so I thank you as always for that,

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Speaker 2: because as always, it is your show. So let's dive

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Speaker 2: into this thing tonight. The recruiting dead period. What is

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Speaker 1: Well, it just means.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, nothing can really be happening. There are no visits,

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Speaker 1: There's nothing happening. Really.

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Speaker 2: Everything's been shut down now obviously for about a year.

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Speaker 2: I mean we're coming up on close to a year

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Speaker 2: since everything's been shut down. There are no camps, there

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Speaker 2: are no visits. If I'm a prospective athlete, I'm not

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Speaker 2: All that stuff's been in place. We all understand why

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Speaker 2: it's been in place right now, And here's the latest,

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Speaker 2: and here's why I wanted to talk about this tonight.

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Speaker 2: The d one sort of the Football Oversite Committee. It's

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Speaker 2: a lot more complex than just saying the nc double A,

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Speaker 2: in a second. But the Football Oversite Committee, essentially, it's

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Speaker 2: I used, I did something that I kind of get

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Speaker 2: some of you spoke up and you were right. You know,

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Speaker 2: it needs to be directed at, and that's university presidents

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Speaker 2: because largely it's what they're saying. This just getting rubber

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Speaker 2: stamped by the NC double A. Point taken, point seated.

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Speaker 2: Now let's direct our ire or my ire at least

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one class. How hard had it been?

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Speaker 2: And he kind of threw us a little bit of curveball,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't say it had been easy, but he

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Speaker 1: It's the twenty twenty two class.

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Speaker 2: So, in other words, the guys who are going to

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Speaker 2: may be a little bit behind on. That's the head

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Speaker 2: coach at Alabama talking so Ryan Day, Nick Saban, Deblos Whinny.

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Speaker 1: Those guys feel that way.

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Speaker 2: Now, I want you to think about what it's like

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Speaker 2: if you're not a top two four, seven style four

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Speaker 2: what it's like if if you're going to be a

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Speaker 1: Of those guys out there.

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Speaker 2: There are thousands of those guys out there in any

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Speaker 2: given cycle. So my stance is this, and again, you

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Speaker 1: A lot of you have been very vocal about this.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just laughable to suggest that at this

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Speaker 2: We just had an entire college football season, a lot

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Speaker 2: of you are attending camps right now. I think it's

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Speaker 2: laughable myself to suggest that you couldn't, say, have recruits

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Speaker 2: all the proper precautions to visit high schools. I think

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Speaker 2: that's laughable. Okay, that's my personal stance. Whichever entity is

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Speaker 1: Whatever the case, I think it's laughable. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So again, you're gonna have the four and five star crowd.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna get their offers. Regardless their film will get out,

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Speaker 2: there will be there will be adequate evaluations on those

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the dozens to hundreds.

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Speaker 1: Just separate it like that.

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Speaker 2: Or instead of a guy going to Michigan, maybe a

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Speaker 2: Two years now, if you're a rising senior, if you're

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Speaker 2: and it is assumed and I do assume this too,

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Speaker 2: football season. Your official visit window is going to be

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Speaker 2: very truncated. Also, you've got to take into account whether

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Speaker 2: because all I'm asking for is pragmatism. That's all I'm

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Speaker 2: asking someone give me pragmatic reasons why we cannot get creative.

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Speaker 2: And I don't even think you have to be too

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Speaker 2: And so I start to get some feedback on this,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the feedback I get it's just

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Speaker 2: it's just like hyperbolic.

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Speaker 1: There's not really any meat on the bone. So some

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Speaker 2: The feedback that I've gotten on this is, well, those

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Speaker 2: why they're the rules. If I drive past a forty

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Speaker 2: There is no pragmatic, practical, logic based reasoning to me

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Speaker 2: So you got some presidents who like it, some presidents

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Speaker 1: We've got mood trackers still to come. By the way.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do Arkansas tonight. We're going to do

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Speaker 1: The confluence of events they are as follows.

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Speaker 2: Number one, we're in kind of a snap judgment culture

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Speaker 1: Everyone's got to react just like that. You got to

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows what they think as soon as they see something.

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Speaker 2: Have you thought recently until we just started talking about them? Now,

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Speaker 2: In fact, I didn't think that they would win four

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Speaker 2: really wise to let that be our default because that's

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Speaker 2: not going to be I'm just telling you ahead of

439
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Speaker 2: time that's not going to be my default for Penn State.

440
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,160
Speaker 2: So love the hire of my Currisach. But then again

441
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,920
Speaker 2: I thought I loved the higher of Kirks rocket offense coordinator.

442
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 2: So remains to be seen just the oellipses dot dot

443
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Speaker 2: dot on that. But James Franklin, you know, Tennessee came

444
00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,080
Speaker 2: after him hard, and I'm not saying that it should

445
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,719
Speaker 2: be a great big pad on the back or anything

446
00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,040
Speaker 2: that he chose to stick it out with his current contract.

447
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Speaker 1: They pay him a ton of money.

448
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Speaker 2: But at the very least you understand the reinvigorated nature.

449
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Speaker 2: You have now confirmed that he wasn't looking for a

450
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Speaker 2: way to get out of there, So all those like

451
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Speaker 2: really back of your mind sort of worries, those should

452
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Speaker 2: be alleviated.

453
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Speaker 1: And they got a really good roster.

454
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Speaker 2: You could argue they got one of the best rosters

455
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Speaker 2: that they've had up there under him. So I expect

456
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Speaker 2: Penn State to bounce back immediately this year. I think

457
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty will be a blip on the radar screen.

458
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Speaker 1: Now, LSU.

459
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Speaker 2: Out of all the decks of cards with all these teams,

460
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Speaker 2: this is one with the most wild cards and I

461
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Speaker 2: don't know how many were supposed to be in there,

462
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,399
Speaker 2: but they got like fifteen or twenty. Twenty twenty was

463
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Speaker 2: impossible for them. As it turns out, we didn't know

464
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Speaker 2: it at the time. We had our suspicions, but as

465
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Speaker 2: it turns out, when you take into account everything that

466
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Speaker 2: was kind of thrown into the pot and stirred together,

467
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty was going to be impossible for them. So

468
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Speaker 2: on top of the COVID situation, you throw in making

469
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Speaker 2: some bad hires one were incredibly bad higher defensively, and

470
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Speaker 2: then touting that bad hire.

471
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Speaker 1: Did Edwards run in the middle of the camp.

472
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Speaker 2: Off field issues and this was a little bit different

473
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Speaker 2: than the Penn State off field variety. They lost like

474
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Speaker 2: thirty to thirty five somewhere in that neighborhood. They lost

475
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Speaker 2: that many players off of what had been the twenty

476
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Speaker 2: nineteen team, which is just a spectacularly incredible number. Shaye

477
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Speaker 2: Dixon over on Go twenty four to seven dot Com

478
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Speaker 2: just had this running tallly of here's the list of

479
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,399
Speaker 2: guys that were on last year's team that aren't going

480
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Speaker 2: to be on this year. Now they had a bunch

481
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 2: of them drafted, but that wasn't even half the guys

482
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 2: who left for graduation or draft ended up not even

483
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: being half of the total amount of players. So they

484
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Speaker 2: had an entirely new roster. Forget the term team, they

485
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: had an entirely new roster. Then on top of that,

486
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Speaker 2: keep in mind, of course you're replacing to me, you're

487
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Speaker 2: replacing EUROC and your DC. You are replacing a generational

488
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 2: Heisman winning quarterback. And also, I mean they had the

489
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: general complacency concerned that any national champion has, and so

490
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Speaker 2: who in the world was gonna handle that? And edwars

491
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Speaker 2: Run didn't handle it. I don't know if the best

492
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Speaker 2: in the game would have handled it like I would

493
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Speaker 2: love to see. I would love to have seen the

494
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Speaker 2: best coaches in America be given that set of circumstances.

495
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Speaker 2: You could argue back, well, the best coaches in America

496
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Speaker 2: in some cases would not have allowed their team to

497
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Speaker 2: be caught in those circumstances. I get what you're saying there,

498
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna put that point to the side for

499
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Speaker 2: a second. Here are the questions. This is what's gonna

500
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Speaker 2: determine things with LSU. Number one Ultimately, is edwars Run

501
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Speaker 2: the right guy here? I think this is a really

502
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: loaded question and number two. And this is non football really,

503
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: this is just the off the field stuff in general.

504
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean, investigations are going on right now that none

505
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: of us are equipped to have any kind of inside

506
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: information on, and so that's ultimately going to be the answer.

507
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: There are a lot more than just can they bounce

508
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: back on the field. How about Wisconsin. Now, this one's

509
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 2: kind of off the radar. Like Penn State, LSU, those

510
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 2: are well publicized. Wisconsin, they opened the season against I

511
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: believe it was Illinois. I think that was like a

512
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: Friday night game, and they just pasted them. Man, they

513
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: threw them right into a wood chipper.

514
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Speaker 1: And then that was it.

515
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Speaker 2: Because then COVID hits Wisconsin really hard and they never

516
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: got their team back, and specifically at the wide receiver position, they.

517
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Speaker 1: Really never got their team back.

518
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: So you're watching them in a standalone game, as we

519
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Speaker 2: call it in our business.

520
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Speaker 1: It's the only game on everyone's watching it.

521
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Speaker 2: It's opening week, and Graham Mertz and Wisconsin had about

522
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 2: the most flawless half of football offensively that you've seen

523
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 2: Wisconsin having a long time, and so everybody was talking

524
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 2: about it, everyone and then it's just like this preview

525
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: and then the tickets to the movie well are in

526
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: never mind, they're sold out, so no one gets to

527
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 2: see what we thought we were gonna see.

528
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: COVID and injuries really.

529
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: Took away what I thought could have been a top

530
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: ten caliber team this past year. Now they have coming

531
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: back and infused into their roster the two best recruiting

532
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: classes they've had in a long time up there, specifically

533
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: under Paul christ Okay, that's the bedrock, that's the foundation

534
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: right now of this roster.

535
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard defensive coordinator.

536
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: There had a shot, had an offer to be the

537
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator. Okay, there's really nothing hidden here.

538
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't just like a cotton candy floated out there.

539
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 2: It's not reality. Dude turned down Green Bay for Wisconsin,

540
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: and so that's not a small thing.

541
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Speaker 1: That's not a small thing at all. They got a

542
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Speaker 1: really good roster.

543
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: Quarterback is probably more stable than we've seen it was

544
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: contin in quite a while. And when I say stable,

545
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't mean just knowing who's going to be there.

546
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm talking about probably a little higher physical ceiling and potential,

547
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: offensive potential and listen to skill spot last year, man

548
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: like they were not bad at wide receiver, but then

549
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: they didn't have those guys on the field for either

550
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: injury or COVID related reasons. Remember, they handled it differently

551
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten than they did maybe in the

552
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 2: SEC or the ACC. So keep an eye on Wisconsin.

553
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: Aside from the obvious reasons. It's always a nice, little

554
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: solid program. But they've made some staff changes, changing the

555
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: way they handle coaching and the secondary for example, just

556
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: some tekering going on there. I think Paul Chris knows

557
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: they're probably under the radar, and he wants me to

558
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: shut up right now because he wants to keep it

559
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 2: that way.

560
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Speaker 1: So I will.

561
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Speaker 2: Lastly, the USC Trojans, Now this is a different one.

562
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Speaker 1: This is sort of the inverse.

563
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: Take the hourglass, turn it upside down because USC, can

564
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: you remember what your expectations were for them?

565
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Speaker 1: I know the Trojans fans out there can. When we're entering.

566
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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty, keep in mind, it seems like it's been

567
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Speaker 2: a decade now that we've entered every season with Clay

568
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: Helton on the hot seat, right, And so then they

569
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 2: enter and they're not really you know, blowing folks out,

570
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: but they just keep winning games, and every game that

571
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 2: they win, it's like you feel like you come out

572
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: of and you say, oh, they might as well have

573
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: lost that game. Well, that's not really the way record

574
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: keeping works in this sport or any other. However, with

575
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: the way the PAC twelve schedule was structured, it's you

576
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: got into the quarter pole of the season, what would

577
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: be normally the quarter pole of the season.

578
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: Well, the season's almost over by that point.

579
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Speaker 2: And so I remember a couple of times sitting at

580
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Speaker 2: this desk, Director Colin had to catch me because I

581
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: was saying, you know, down the stretch if USC doesn't

582
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: get better, and it's like, man, they got one game

583
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: left on their regular season, and so they I think

584
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 2: they went five to one. They played in the PAC

585
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: twelve championship game, and the conference did them no favors

586
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: in handling that entire week leading up. But hey, Larry

587
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: Scott era rest in peace. There's a potential reversal here though,

588
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: because you see what twenty twenty could have potentially done

589
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: is just bought Clay Helton a year's worth of time

590
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Speaker 2: that otherwise a regular season wouldn't have bought him.

591
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Speaker 1: Well, now recruiting looks really good. Recruiting had fallen off

592
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: a cliff.

593
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: They finished lower than fiftieth, and it was inexplicable at

594
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Speaker 2: the time. But then they are top ten in this

595
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: current class, the twenty twenty one class, and they landed

596
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: the number one player in the country per the twenty

597
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: four seven Sports Composite, and so things look good all

598
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: of a sudden, and they're going to enter this season

599
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: and some people have them ranked inside their top fifteen,

600
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: and it's like, what are we supposed to think about USC?

601
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: And so last year I don't necessarily know if it

602
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 2: fooled us on USC as much as it kind of

603
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: bought Clay Helton maybe a year that otherwise he wouldn't

604
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: have gotten. So you know, I'm higher on Penn State,

605
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: it seems than the general public is right now. Maybe

606
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: a little higher on LSU than the general public, cause

607
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: that's a tough taste to get out of your mouth,

608
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: how bad they were last year.

609
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin.

610
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: I think come preview season time, everyone will have Wisconsin

611
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 2: comfortably in the top fifteen, maybe still a little bit

612
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 2: low on them.

613
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: But USC, Man, that one's just a question to me.

614
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: It's a total question to.

615
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: Me, and I think it's a total question even to

616
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: a lot of the folks who cover.

617
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: The program, and a lot of the fan base out

618
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: there rolling on.

619
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Speaker 2: There's one program there that I did not mention that

620
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: should be on the list. But the reason I didn't

621
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: mention them is because I am doing well their own

622
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Speaker 2: segment tonight. The mood tracker. How about the Florida State

623
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Speaker 2: mood tracker. This one's been in very high demand over

624
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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. So I go over to

625
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: Nose twenty four to seven dot com today, as I

626
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: often do when I know I'm gonna do a program's

627
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: mood tracker on Late Kick that night, and I say,

628
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: give them to me. Let me know, got to pass

629
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 2: FCC regulations, of course, but give them to me.

630
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: What is your mood?

631
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: One phrase, one sentence, one word even that sums up

632
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: how you feel about Florida State football. Now, of course,

633
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: several of them were sexual in nature and therefore cannot

634
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: make air. But we had some the cautious optimism that's

635
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: always the go to, everyone's cautious optimism, that's always the

636
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 2: number one. But then I had uprising, upward trajectory prayerful.

637
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: We had quite a few that were seeking divine intervention

638
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: for this upcoming season.

639
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: And beyond.

640
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: So here's where I've gone with Florida State. Florida State

641
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: is in what I like to call Forrest Gump mode

642
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: right now. It's not first time that we've used this.

643
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. You got to write it in all caps,

644
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: which Forrest Gump, because I've got many different Forest Gumps

645
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: out there, as you well know if you've seen the

646
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: Blockbuster film, so you got like that. You can't see

647
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: here Forrest Gump. You got the your mam if cares

648
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: about your schooling son, you got that Forest Gump. You

649
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: got getting the leg brace stuck in the sewer drain pipe.

650
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: You got that Forrest Gump. They're not there. I don't

651
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: think it's quite that dire. But they're also not the

652
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: All American at Alabama playing for Bear Bryant Forrest Gump.

653
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: They're not the war hero, you know, world class ping

654
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: pong player, gozillionaire Forrest Gump. They're not quite that guy either.

655
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: Here's where they are. They're in sort of that run

656
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: forest run mode.

657
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: But are they on the side.

658
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: Where he's getting pelted in the back of the head

659
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: with rocks or are the knee braces about to break

660
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: off and he's going to run like a four to

661
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: one flat. He'd dominate if he went to the combine

662
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. Florida State football.

663
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: Seems to be somewhere in there.

664
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: Let's cross our fingers that the knee braces are starting

665
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 2: to come off, and it's just time to look up

666
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: at the sky and now anything's possible. And then the

667
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: inspirational music starts playing in the background. There goes Robin

668
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: Wright in the distance. By the way, she's sure changed

669
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: when they put her on House of Cards. But no

670
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: major program was dealt a tougher There was no major

671
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: let me put it this way, there was no major

672
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: program with any kind of expectation and tradition that was

673
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: dealt a tougher hand than Florida's was in twenty twenty,

674
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: because not only did they have a new coaching staff

675
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: in place, which in and of itself made everything pretty

676
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: much impossible, they had.

677
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: A terrible culture down there to overturn.

678
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: So you got a new staff that comes in and

679
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 2: then you're told, hey, we're shutting everything down. So I mean,

680
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: you can't be face to face with anyone like you

681
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: got to use something called zoom that you may or

682
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: may not have heard of to this point. But you're

683
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: going to have no spring, You're going to have very

684
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: truncated install periods, and what you have is going to

685
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: probably be virtual. And you're you had no shot at

686
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: Florida State to even develop a culture or to even

687
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: build a team.

688
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: Think about just the basic tenets.

689
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: And pillars of what makes a football team instead of

690
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 2: a collection of players, they had no shot there. And

691
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: so immediately as we look forward now, because twenty twenty

692
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: is just like a lot of people called it year zero,

693
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: I think that's a really good way to phrase it. Yes,

694
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: Mike Norvel was the coach here. Yeah, they had a season.

695
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: I don't really know that we can take much away

696
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: from it. So that was your zero. Now let's look

697
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: at your one and beyond. They got rass holes still,

698
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: they've got a very young, but promising nucleus of players,

699
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: and he, being Mike Norvel, has really taken a head

700
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: first dive into the philosophy of let's fully leverage the

701
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: transfer portal.

702
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: We understand what the deal is here.

703
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: We know that as as dire the situation is, as

704
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: we inherited, no one wants to hear about it.

705
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: They want to give us maybe a.

706
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: Season, and then we need to win and so there's

707
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: all that, But then there's this kind of low key

708
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: confidence as you look at the transfer portal additions that

709
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: they've already added to this roster. And that's not a

710
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: short list, folks, if you're watching on YouTube, that is

711
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: not a short list. But I also want to tell you,

712
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: now here's the undercurrent. Here's where I don't really know

713
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: if I've bought in quite yet. There is a feeling

714
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: amongst some people in Florida recruiting circles that Mike Norvel

715
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: and his staff may end up being the best high

716
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: school recruiting staff in the state of Florida out of

717
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: the big three. Now, some of you rightly probably shaking

718
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: your head at that right now, because we certainly have

719
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: not seen that put into practice.

720
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: It's way too early.

721
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: So if there's validity to that, I'm just saying, there

722
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 2: are some people down there when you talk to them,

723
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: who say, watch out. I know they're hitting up the

724
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: portal right now, and I know that they haven't been

725
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: able to get out on the road and you know,

726
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: establish themselves in you know, the classrooms and offices of

727
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: high school coaches and guidance counselors and players all up

728
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: and down you know, the Space Coast and.

729
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: In the Panhandle, everywhere you have to get in Florida. No,

730
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: they haven't done that yet.

731
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: There is a feeling amongst some people who have been

732
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: around Mike Norvel and his staff they could end up

733
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: doing that. It looks like there'll be a portal staff

734
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: right now. Maybe that's just out of necessity. Maybe that

735
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: changes in the future, but there's confidence there, let's just

736
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: put it that way. There's confidence about their ability to

737
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: recruit any way they need to. There's confidence about the staff,

738
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: and there's confidence in the offensive direction. I mean, very

739
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: few people have doubts that when Mike Norvell has things

740
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: running the way he wants to, they're gonna be a

741
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: good offensive team.

742
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: Is that enough to win alone? Though? But do you

743
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: need it to win? Yes, you do so Florida State.

744
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 2: Here's the thing to keep in mind this year and beyond,

745
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: they're going to have to win some big games.

746
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: Now.

747
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: I know that sounds obvious, but here's the reason. It's

748
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: really imperative for Florida State. There's no one left on

749
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: the roster that has been a winner at Florida State.

750
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: To any kind of national acclaim because the last four

751
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: years in order have been seven and six, five and seven,

752
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: six and seven, and then three and six in an

753
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: abbreviated season last year. No one knows what it's like

754
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: to win big there. Currently on the roster, no one

755
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: knows what it's like to win big at Florida State.

756
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: So unfortunately, this is not like at LSU, where they

757
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: just had one down year and then it's right back

758
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: and some of the players from the national title team

759
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: who saw the way it was done there, they're still there.

760
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: Florida State doesn't have that, so and in some ways

761
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: you're kind of building an identity, hopefully a championship culture

762
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: from scratch. But here's the other thing you gotta do.

763
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: You got it if you're in that program, you got

764
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: to keep your eyes on your program. If you're a

765
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: Florida State fan, you can afford to keep one eye

766
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: on the program, and then you're watching one I down

767
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: in Miami. Miami's won what four in a row before that,

768
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: Florida State had won seven in a row. You can

769
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: afford to let Miami put distance between you. Clemson already

770
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: fits that descript You can't let another program put distance

771
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: between you, because here's where it needs to stand, and

772
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: it's inexplicable that it has stood here. But yet the

773
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is ACC is what it is.

774
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: There are no other programs that have truly started to

775
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: pull away. North Carolina looks really good. How long do

776
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: we need to see it before we know it's there

777
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: to stay. Miami's doing some good things right now, pace

778
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: did you last year? Do we know that it's here

779
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: to stay. I'm a big believer in Bronco Mendelhall in

780
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: the future of Virginia. Haven't done it quite yet to

781
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: the degree where you say that's a bona fide number

782
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: two contender in the ACC. So it's still there to

783
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: be had. You just got to go get it. There's

784
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: a nice little pause and we'll move on. So I

785
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: save this one for the end, because I believe it

786
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: or not. The most requested mood tracker that we've had

787
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: has been Arkansas, and I put it off. But I

788
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: can put it off no longer. It is time Arkansas

789
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: mood tracker. I want a different direction on this one.

790
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: I also hit up the Arkansas board today, got a

791
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: lot of good suggestions on mood cautious optimism, abounded there.

792
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: But there's also here's what's fun about our.

793
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: There's this rogue nature about Arkansas right now, and it's

794
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: due in large part to the way they just got

795
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: treated by the conference. And it seems like the entire

796
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 2: world this past year about to talk about that. But

797
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: my mood for Arkansas right now is what I have

798
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: termed Russian satellite energy. Now this has actually nothing to

799
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: do with Russia, but it does have a lot to

800
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: do with the movie Armagedon.

801
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Remember when all hope seemed to.

802
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: Be lost in the movie arm Again spoiler alert, it's

803
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: only twenty years old for those of you who haven't

804
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: seen it, When all seemed to be lost and Gracie

805
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: was never gonna see Bruce Willis again and Ben Affleck

806
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: and they were just gonna die, and then everyone was

807
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: gonna die.

808
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: It was just going to be a whole bunch of death.

809
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: It was a global killer, as Billy Bob Thornton said.

810
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: And then all of a.

811
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: Sudden, there's this some guy. He's working at NASA. He's

812
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: like fifth string. He's probably making under a quarter million

813
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: a year. So basically Ramen noodling his way through life,

814
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: and he says, hold up, finger in the ear. I

815
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: got some magic happening. I'm bouncing a signal off a

816
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: Russian satellite, and all of a sudden, there's Bruce Willis.

817
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: All of NASA had lost communication with the shuttle. But

818
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: then we just, oh, we just have to bounce a

819
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: signal off a Russian satellite, and there's Bruce Willis and

820
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: he gets to tell his daughter goodbye. I'm about to

821
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 2: have to blow up the Sashterroid and save the world. Well,

822
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: how in the world does that tie into Arkansas football? Well,

823
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: I want you to think about something this last year,

824
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: because it all seemed lost for Arkansas. First off, already

825
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: you had a new coaching staff coming in. And this

826
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: is not the end of twenty twenty, mind you, this

827
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: is not revisionist history time. Very few people believed in

828
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: Sam Pittman when he got there, and there were questions

829
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: amongst some of the fan base when he got there.

830
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: They love Sam Pittman as a personality, they love him,

831
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: He fit the culture. They all knew that. We all

832
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: knew that. You didn't even have to be an Arkansas

833
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 2: fan to know that. But there was a question of

834
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: is this guy the right guy to help us compete

835
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: in the most rabid and toughest conference in America, the

836
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: toughest division in the toughest conference in America. And then

837
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: not only do you have that, of course, like any

838
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: other new staff out there, your delt a crippling blow

839
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: with the entire COVID situation, and no one really takes

840
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: it easy on you. And then the SEC says, oh,

841
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: by the way, Sam, is that your name, Sam Pittman. Yeah, cool,

842
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you a new schedule, and we're gonna

843
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: have you play Alabama and Georgia and Florida and the

844
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs and the Patriots and pretty much everyone else.

845
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: Have fun.

846
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, don't think for a second

847
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: that you're gonna actually win any of these games. Well,

848
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: in Arkansas they got kind of bold and they said,

849
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna undo the top three buttons

850
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: and we're gonna go beat Mississippi State, and then we're

851
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna go beat Auburn.

852
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: And the SEC said, no, you're not. You're not gonna

853
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: beat Auburn.

854
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: You may think you've got Auburn beaten, but we're overturning

855
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: this call, and we're overturning the game. In the process,

856
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: go home, go home, and so all seemed lost. Okay,

857
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: world's about to end afore mentioned metaphor to armageddon, and

858
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: then you just start bouncing that signal off the Russian

859
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: satellite and we just got some magic happening. And Arkansas

860
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: was competitive the whole year. And they go three and seven,

861
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: which doesn't sound impressive to an outsider. Well, that's fine

862
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: be an outsider, but if you're on the ground in fable,

863
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: you understand how low the expectation level was. There were

864
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: people out there floating an over underwin total of one

865
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: and a half for you. So you win three, But

866
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: I don't just want to talk about the three that

867
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: they won. You know, they also lost I think it

868
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: was they lost three more games by combined seven points.

869
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: So I mean, that was a really competitive team all year.

870
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: They didn't challenge Alabama. They weren't supposed to challenge Alabama.

871
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: But this is their schedule and this is their record

872
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: last year. Look late in the year, I mean they

873
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: lost by three to the defending national champ. They had

874
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: a wild game at Missouri. We were victimized in the

875
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: pocketbook by that one.

876
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: Fifty to forty eight.

877
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: This was really competitive they played Texas A and M

878
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 2: forty two to thirty one. This was a competitive team

879
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: all year, and you know what it's done. It's frustrated

880
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: some SEC fans, and it reminds me a lot of

881
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: miss not Mississippi State, Michigan State, Arkansas starting to remind

882
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: me a little bit of Michigan State under a guy

883
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: named Mark D'Antonio.

884
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: Hasn't been all that long ago.

885
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 2: You guys remember Michigan, Ohio State out recruiting Michigan State

886
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: every year. Michigan State is a team that's supposed to

887
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: know their role, and they're supposed to be a nice,

888
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: scrappy competitive bunch, but they're ultimately supposed to take their

889
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: two or three touchdown loss, go back to east Land,

890
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: seeing you can win. You're out of conference games, go

891
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: challenge Iowa or Minnesota, but you're not supposed.

892
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: To challenge the big boys.

893
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 2: And Mark D'Antonio turned that entire dynamic, especially the Michigan

894
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Michigan State dynamic, but in some years even the Michigan

895
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: State versus Ohio State with Urban Meyer dynamic. It was

896
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: like watching someone try and defeat a bowling ball with

897
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: a flamethrower. That's what it looked like a lot of

898
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: times in the Big Ten because you had this team

899
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: full of two and three star no names, and then

900
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: you got a litany of guys who are about to

901
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: go in the first and second round of the draft,

902
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: and Michigan State just won. They just found these ugly,

903
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: hideous ways to win. And people in the big tank,

904
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm mad because we don't care if you try hard.

905
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: We don't care if you're a nice, solid story. You're

906
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: not supposed to be winning these games. We don't want

907
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: you in the spotlight. It's just Michigan State. We need

908
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: these big brands in the spotlight. That's what Arkansas started

909
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: to be on the precipice of doing last year. Not

910
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: against Alabama in the end, not against Georgia, but they

911
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: started to knock on some doors that they're really.

912
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: Not expected to knock on, not supposed to knock on that.

913
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: Here is the key moving forward. Will Sam Pittman maintained

914
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: that identity and be able to maintain that theme because

915
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: there was no big secret about Arkansas in twenty twenty.

916
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: This is kind of what gives me a little bit

917
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: of optimism. There was no threading of the needle. There

918
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: was nothing overly fancy. I don't think that very many

919
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: opposing staffs stayed up late the night before they're playing

920
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: Arkansas pulling their hair out, trying.

921
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: To try to figure out what they're doing schematically. It

922
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: was none of that. It was just they kind of

923
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: had a sum greater than the individual part sort of

924
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: bowling ball mentality, and now offensively the style was far

925
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: from that. But I'm talking about collectively. Philosophically, that's kind

926
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: of what it was. That's what it has to be

927
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: in the future for Arkansas. But here's what has a

928
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: lot of their fans excited. This is exactly how they

929
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: want to go about it. They refuse to know their role,

930
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: and they exist in their own ecosystem. See for a while.

931
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: You know, when they brought Brett Beelman in, it was

932
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: ludicrous because they brought him in and they.

933
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: Basically tried to bring in someone who could try and

934
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: out Alabama.

935
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Alabama. Well, that's stupid. At Arkansas, You're not going to

936
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: do that. So you got all the incentive in the

937
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: world to do it a different way. Exist in your

938
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: own ecosystem.

939
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: There, don't be part of the SEC East or West

940
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: or SEC as a whole.

941
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: Don't try and do a version of what they just do. Arkansas.

942
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: Just be you and refuse to know your role.

943
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: Number one. If you do it, the fan base will

944
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 2: love you for it. They went three and seven this

945
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: past year. Entire fan base is jacked about the future

946
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: of the program. You got some programs that put up

947
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: a better record, and they'll struggle to sell tickets this

948
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: upcoming year, even if stadiums are open to full capacity.

949
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: So love where Arkansas is because even if you're not

950
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: buying them to make a certain caliber Bowl game, that's

951
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: not an easy out. I can tell you right now.

952
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: There are a lot of programs of greater acclaim. Let's

953
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: just say in the sec that big time programs would

954
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: rather face they had to play this Saturday than Arkansas.

955
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: Records don't reflect it, but the attitude collectively of the

956
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: team reflects it. Now, lastly, before we move on and

957
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: close the show, actually I want you to pay attention

958
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: to this. Sam Pittman pretty quietly has made some staff

959
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 2: moves up there. It's because of recruiting. They just locked

960
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: up a class that was way better than I thought

961
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: they'd lock up. To be really honest with you, I

962
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: thought they'd be floating in the thirty range, teens, twenties range.

963
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: So good for Sam Pittman. The guy's gonna recruit. I

964
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: don't have any doubt about that. They've made some moves

965
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: on the staff to up their recruiting game more. They

966
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: know what they have to do, Like they know, you know,

967
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: you're not gonna bubble gum and pay per clip your

968
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: way through the SEC West. But they know if we

969
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: get a certain caliber athlete here, we don't have to

970
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: beat Alabama for a lot of kids. Let's just get

971
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: in the ballpark and then we're going to put us.

972
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna put Arkansas in them, and it's gonna be

973
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: good enough. I don't know how, don't ask me. We

974
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: may get out gained by one hundred yards here and

975
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: win by three. We may turn it over twice and

976
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: still win by seven over here. We're gonna find ways

977
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: to win games, cause you know, from Sam Pittman's perspective,

978
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: we're Arkansas.

979
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: That's what we do.

980
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: We're done because we got to drive home now in

981
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: a blizzard. So that's what we're gonna try and do.

982
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: Really appreciate you watching tonight. Remember just a little experimentation here.

983
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: Let's try and get that Twitter count over thirteen thousand

984
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: at Late Kick Josh by the way on Twitter. When

985
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: we get there, whether it's tomorrow or three weeks from now,

986
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna do something really fun. It's going to be experimental.

987
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: It could go off the rails horribly, it could be

988
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: a hit.

989
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: We'll see.

990
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: But the only way to do it is to get

991
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: us there. So get us there and we'll try it

992
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993
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995
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996
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997
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998
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Speaker 2: We want people to feel We would just want the

999
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Speaker 2: credit and none of the blame, and we want people

1000
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Speaker 2: to feel sorry for us.

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Speaker 2: For Director Emeritis Colin, for our entire crew up in Connecticut.

1004
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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate signing out. Have a great and safe

1005
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Speaker 1: start to your week, and God bless