Speaker 1: Hello, Hi there, Hi.
Speaker 2: Is this the therapy?
Speaker 3: Here go? This is this is therapy? Gecko? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Not in mind? I was just chilling walks in the stream.
Speaker 3: What's your name? What's your where? What's your home address?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 2: My name is Ox and I live in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Oh cool? You know that song that Chance the Rapper
Speaker 3: does where he goes hot Atlanta hot water, hot shower. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a great song.
Speaker 4: And that's a good song.
Speaker 3: What else do I know about? I used to live.
Speaker 3: I lived in Atlanta for a couple of months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I lived there. Uh the Gucci Maine, Mexaco.
Speaker 3: Oh cool. Yeah, it's it's a good it's a fun place.
Speaker 3: There's the You ever been to the Oh you ever
Speaker 3: been to the Museum of Coca Cola.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually got sick in the bathroom there one time.
Speaker 3: Well that sounds like a good place to get sick
Speaker 3: in the bathroom because they got a lot of seltzer.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There were the Varsity.
Speaker 3: Oh the Varsity. Oh my god, this is we're getting
Speaker 3: Atlanta specific. But I love I love the Varsity of
Speaker 3: Varsity fucking rocks. It's uh. If you eat there more
Speaker 3: than three times in a. I think you can. You
Speaker 3: can probably only afford to eat their three times in
Speaker 3: your life, or else you'll just die of Greece. But
Speaker 3: it's it's good. I mean, give it a give a shot.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean there a lot anyway. Anyway,
Speaker 3: it's I don't want to and I don't wanna isolate
Speaker 3: our non Atlanta audience with this inside Baseball Talk os,
Speaker 3: What is it you wanted to to talk about on
Speaker 3: the on the Gecko thing today?
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about the time I got napped
Speaker 2: and taken on vacations.
Speaker 3: Who kidnapped you?
Speaker 2: This guy I was dating who was not very nice?
Speaker 3: How old were you?
Speaker 2: I was nineteen?
Speaker 3: How'd you meet this guy?
Speaker 2: He was my maths tutor in high school?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we'll just get the way from here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: So you met him when you were in high school,
Speaker 3: and then you got a little bit older and graduated,
Speaker 3: and then he kidnapped you.
Speaker 5: We were dating, like when I was still in high school,
Speaker 5: when he was like twenty street.
Speaker 3: Okay, why there were where did? I mean? Go ahead,
Speaker 3: I'll stop asking questions if you want to tell the story.
Speaker 5: Oh god, okay, So we ended up living together for
Speaker 5: a couple of years and he just got like more
Speaker 5: and more horrible to me, and like he wouldn't let
Speaker 5: me work certain ships at my job because he wouldn't
Speaker 5: he was home and he didn't want me to be
Speaker 5: anywhere else and like stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So basically we were living together and he just got
Speaker 2: more and more horrible to me, and like he would
Speaker 2: let me work certain shifts at my job and like
Speaker 2: I couldn't have Like he would go through my phone.
Speaker 2: He knew all my passwords, he made like my bank
Speaker 2: account information, and he he was like, let's go on
Speaker 2: a trip. And I was like, I really don't want
Speaker 2: to go on a trip. So he like got in
Speaker 2: my phone, sent him him, sent himself like three thousand
Speaker 2: dollars out of my bank account, and I was like
Speaker 2: what the fuck, Like I'm done with this, Like I'm
Speaker 2: about to go like bye, and he's like, no, Let's
Speaker 2: go on a trip. And I'm like what He basically
Speaker 2: like forces me to go on a trip to Colorado?
Speaker 3: How long were you in Colorado for?
Speaker 2: For like a week?
Speaker 3: What was that week?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: It was crazy? Like he so I have a lot
Speaker 2: of tattoos at the time. I like even though I
Speaker 2: was like younger, I thought a bunch of tattoost time,
Speaker 2: and he didn't have any, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I want you to pick out a tattoo for me.
Speaker 2: And he basically like made me stay in the hotel
Speaker 2: room half the time unless he wanted to do something
Speaker 2: or I thought of something that he agreed to both doing.
Speaker 2: Like you know how people go to Colorado and smoked weeds.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to smoke any weed. Like whoves to
Speaker 2: Colorado doesn't work.
Speaker 3: I love that. That's the worst That's the worst part
Speaker 3: of this story to you, is that your your kidnapper
Speaker 3: didn't want to get high.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, man, he couldn't made it a little more
Speaker 2: pleas that.
Speaker 3: Geez, oh my god. Uh so this was two years ago.
Speaker 2: This is yeah, it was twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: What the fuck? What what happened?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: What happened with this guy? How'd you get away from him?
Speaker 2: We landed on like we came back to where we were,
Speaker 2: and we drove back at night, and I took all
Speaker 2: my shit and I went to my parents' house. And
Speaker 2: my parents like owned the house that we were living
Speaker 2: in at the time, so they just like it was like, hey,
Speaker 2: get your shit, get out, like trespassing the property. Don't
Speaker 2: contact us anymore. I had to get I couldn't get
Speaker 2: a restraining order in the town that we lived in
Speaker 2: because the town that I lived in, that the house
Speaker 2: was in, didn't like allow restraining orders.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, your parents owned a place that you
Speaker 3: and that guy were living at together. Guys, how did
Speaker 3: you did your parents know about like all this stuff?
Speaker 2: I mean, like when it happened, like when it was
Speaker 2: going on, Like no, they just knew I was like
Speaker 2: going on a trip, like a spontaneous trip, but they
Speaker 2: didn't know, like about all the crazy like abuse stuff
Speaker 2: that really just knew and they didn't want to do
Speaker 2: anything about it.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Me and my mom had a really complicated relationship.
Speaker 3: So okay, So and this was two years ago. This
Speaker 3: guy doesn't see and still contact you or anything? Does he?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I haven't heard from him, like since all
Speaker 2: that happened. Thank god?
Speaker 3: You know, Well that's cool. Are you? Uh have you
Speaker 3: have you entered into a more stable relationship since then,
Speaker 3: or or or rather even found stability within yourself? Like
Speaker 3: how how have you uh healed so to speak? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I got diagnosed with PTSD because
Speaker 2: of like that relationship, which sucks. But I mean I've
Speaker 2: just taken each day at a time and being nice
Speaker 2: to myself and you know, learning how to be normal.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: He kidnapped you, took you to Denver and didn't even
Speaker 3: didn't even get you any dabs.
Speaker 2: No, right, it was in May too. Seven ten?
Speaker 3: What's seven ten?
Speaker 2: It's the dab day?
Speaker 3: Hold on, I have no I had no idea there
Speaker 3: was four twenty four dabs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you didn't know about dab day seven ten? Man,
Speaker 2: what is.
Speaker 3: How did you get? How did how did we get?
Speaker 3: Seven ten?
Speaker 2: Is that like d he flipped it backwards? That says
Speaker 2: like dab or something? Hey, and I can't ask my boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Who does Oh seven ten upside down as oil.
Speaker 2: Oil that's what it is? Yeah, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you have a new boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's crazy, but he's awesome.
Speaker 3: Well hold on, now, I what's crazy you mean? Because
Speaker 3: he's like I feel like your bar. I feel like
Speaker 3: the bar for crazy is now pretty high.
Speaker 2: He just like builds crazy shit all the time. I'm
Speaker 2: in My house was just full of like random objects
Speaker 2: that are like right now, my house is filled with
Speaker 2: like old Naruto comics from two thousand and eight, because
Speaker 2: apparently he's like flipping him on either there was like
Speaker 2: a whole kill in my backyard.
Speaker 3: I love Naruto comic book collector guy way better than
Speaker 3: a creepy math teacher. Guy's significantly better kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, how'd you guys meet?
Speaker 2: I snuck into a bar when I was like nineteen
Speaker 2: and we were talking, me and my friend, who was
Speaker 2: like twenty five at the time. We were talking about
Speaker 2: we were in a different town because I had to
Speaker 2: go get like a procedure done, and this is like
Speaker 2: and it was like far away from where I lived.
Speaker 2: And we were like at a bar just hanging out
Speaker 2: and that we that I have snuck into, and there
Speaker 2: was just this guy across the bar. He was staring
Speaker 2: at me, and he had a bunch of any of
Speaker 2: two other friends with him, And then me and my
Speaker 2: friend started talking about doing dabs and they're like, yo,
Speaker 2: you want to come do dabs with us? And we're
Speaker 2: like hell yeah, And so we just went to the
Speaker 2: random house at like, you know, nine o'clock at night.
Speaker 3: Is weird? Like is that connect you to people. You're like,
Speaker 3: if somebody is really like it? Yeah, are you high
Speaker 3: right now? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hitting the dab pen. I was just smoking
Speaker 2: the bong and walking in the living room watching the stream.
Speaker 3: That's cool. Well, all right, so how long have you
Speaker 3: been dating the Naruto guy for?
Speaker 2: Like almost it'll be three years in November. I think
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm bad at math.
Speaker 3: That's cool. M Well, are you feeling good about life
Speaker 3: in general? It sounds like everything's going okay?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love life, man. I'm happy to be
Speaker 2: here finally. You know, it's not as bad as it's
Speaker 2: called cracked out to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sound high. I never knew about seven ten.
Speaker 3: I gotta do. I gotta I haven't. I've said this
Speaker 3: eight thousand times on this fucking thing, but I've never
Speaker 3: done never. I haven't done like real dabs in a while.
Speaker 3: I do the pen, but like I haven't done the
Speaker 3: whole thing with the torch and the booger.
Speaker 2: Oh really? While, Yeah, when you come to Atlanta, I
Speaker 2: can heck you up with that?
Speaker 3: Or isn't it legal? Do I need a secret hookup?
Speaker 3: Or is it is it legal?
Speaker 2: It's not legal here, unfortunately, unless you want like the
Speaker 2: thhd A, but I mean like it's not as a
Speaker 2: good quality.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 3: Well, well, thanks for sharing this story about uh the
Speaker 3: I mean this genuine me thank you for sharing this
Speaker 3: story about the worst thing that's ever happened to you.
Speaker 3: I hope that's the worst thing that's ever happened to you.
Speaker 3: I don't mean that as in I hope that you
Speaker 3: don't have you know what I'm trying to say. I
Speaker 3: hope that you don't have a second worst thing that
Speaker 3: you're holding back, that that's the worst, that God didn't
Speaker 3: get worse.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Lyle.
Speaker 3: Of course, is there anything else you want to say
Speaker 3: to the people of the computer before we go, or
Speaker 3: or you, or any other aspect of any of this
Speaker 3: stuff for life in general that you wanted to talk
Speaker 3: about or anything?
Speaker 2: Mm? Be nice, love yourself, love everybody, and get nation.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Having the rest of the night
Speaker 3: you too, Lyle, Love you. Oh man? What a side hustle?
Speaker 3: I collecting Naruto comics. That's that's that's the guy that's
Speaker 3: that's hot Lana right there, A guy who deals dabs
Speaker 3: and uh Naruto manga. Hey, folks, this is Lyle. I
Speaker 3: am very excited to announce that I am going back
Speaker 3: on tour in twenty twenty four to do Therapy Gecko
Speaker 3: Live all across the country. If you've never been to
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Speaker 3: of the year. This is my third tour so far,
Speaker 3: and I think it's going to be sick, so I
Speaker 3: hope to see you there. Thanks. Somebody just texted me
Speaker 3: saying in all caps, I have psychopathic tendencies? Is that worth?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Should I? Should we do that one? Or is that
Speaker 3: too crazy? Why not? Okay, let's give it, let's try it.
Speaker 3: Hello Oka, Hi there. What's your name? Sir?
Speaker 4: Is John?
Speaker 3: John? How's life John?
Speaker 4: It's pretty well. Sorry, I'm pretty dabbed out right now.
Speaker 4: I did not expect you to call.
Speaker 3: You're dabbed out right now?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you hit the what you hit the rig?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I got the rigs over in the Michigan So
Speaker 4: everything's that's cool.
Speaker 3: I even taken like all the pens are kind of
Speaker 3: oil now, but I haven't taken a a real motherfucking
Speaker 3: like dab in a while. I'm sure I've said this
Speaker 3: on the podcast before, but dabs are fascinating because I
Speaker 3: remember doing them in high school and like thinking to myself,
Speaker 3: you know, if my mom walked in on me lighting
Speaker 3: something with a torch, she wouldn't think it was pot.
Speaker 3: She would think it was like a significantly harder drug.
Speaker 3: Anything that you do with as a that involves a
Speaker 3: fucking torch is uh, definitely schedule one. H Is that
Speaker 3: what you did? You did? You did the torch thing
Speaker 3: with a little booger of oil and you did all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thc overloads.
Speaker 3: I missed that ship. I haven't done that in a
Speaker 3: in a long I haven't done it in a long time.
Speaker 3: And the thing is that even if I did it now,
Speaker 3: it just wouldn't be the same as doing it in
Speaker 3: high school. Anyway, enough about me, Enough, enough of my memories.
Speaker 3: What's up, man? Would you want to talk about? Well?
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess the only thing I really do
Speaker 4: have to talk about is the psychopathic tendency.
Speaker 3: The psychopathic tendencies.
Speaker 4: No how else I call it. But uh, I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like I just don't have a lot of remorse or
Speaker 4: like bad feelings when I hurt people, and it kind
Speaker 4: of took me a long time to associate hurting people
Speaker 4: with like, you know, you shouldn't do that to the
Speaker 4: people that you love, and it creates negative things in
Speaker 4: your relationship. And through psychedelics and stuff, I feel like
Speaker 4: it's helped me understand that. But still, you know, I
Speaker 4: have my problems with it.
Speaker 3: Are you physically hurting people?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: I used to, you know, fight, and I definitely wash
Speaker 4: out it people, definitely emotionally. I really tried not to anymore,
Speaker 4: but I can be a little hurtful with my words.
Speaker 3: What do you think is what do you think happened
Speaker 3: to cause you to change?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if it's like a nature versus nurture whatever.
Speaker 4: Like I had some traumatic experiences growing up, you know
Speaker 4: my I feel it was weird talking about it, But
Speaker 4: you're the guy, so I feel like I can but
Speaker 4: only one Yeah, but uh, you know, my stepdad killed
Speaker 4: himself when I was younger, and I didn't see it,
Speaker 4: but my mom witnessed it. I remember all that stuff.
Speaker 4: And then you know, some other things that happened Bill
Speaker 4: that kind of brought dust into my life at a
Speaker 4: young age and then kind of made me uh, just
Speaker 4: careless with it, not quite careless. I just can't think
Speaker 4: of the right word.
Speaker 3: How old are you now?
Speaker 4: Twenty six?
Speaker 3: Okay? Cool? And so all right? So, I mean from
Speaker 3: the way that you're telling the story, it sounds like, uh,
Speaker 3: you're on an upward trajectory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know a lot of psychedelics and some Buddhism
Speaker 4: and shit and faking it.
Speaker 3: Have you seen a therapist to talk about this?
Speaker 4: No, I've done everything. Who do like that? See a therapist?
Speaker 4: I know I need to, but I don't have health
Speaker 4: insurance right now, and even if I did, you know,
Speaker 4: that could just be an next few making. But I
Speaker 4: know I do need to see a therapist.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, So I get well, you should talk to
Speaker 3: a real therapist about like all right, I mean, what
Speaker 3: so you feel like you're on an upper trajectory, you
Speaker 3: feel like you've gotten a little bit better at handling
Speaker 3: your anger issues and whatnot? What do you what's left?
Speaker 3: What ways do you feel like you still hurt people
Speaker 3: or are still get angry that you want to change?
Speaker 4: Well, I thought I got rid of a lot of
Speaker 4: the problems, and that's but it was more like I
Speaker 4: got rid of all the triggers in my life. I
Speaker 4: kind of just like broke off from everything, and then
Speaker 4: I got a girlfriend I had to start working through
Speaker 4: a lot of that shit again. But honestly, I feel
Speaker 4: like for the most part, it's just like like people
Speaker 4: I work with, or like random people, or like road rage,
Speaker 4: like I've got a few accidents in the past couple
Speaker 4: of years, and like in some of those like mind states,
Speaker 4: like I really just don't care if I kill myself
Speaker 4: and somebody else because someone will just kiss me off.
Speaker 3: M hm. So I guess what I'm thinking is like,
Speaker 3: what tell me more? And I know you answered this
Speaker 3: question already, but tell me more about how you feel
Speaker 3: as though you've gotten better from where you once were,
Speaker 3: and then how you can use that information to help
Speaker 3: you deal with some of the remaining anger that you have.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely more comfortable with myself, and I try to
Speaker 4: love myself a little more, you know, Like I feel
Speaker 4: like your relationship with yourself is really a reflection with
Speaker 4: your relationship with others and vice versa. So like you
Speaker 4: hate yourself, you definitely can I hate others. So I
Speaker 4: really try and focus on my relationship with myself. I
Speaker 4: definitely I don't lash out with the people really close
Speaker 4: to me, and I try to make a like conscious
Speaker 4: effort to like have good relationships with them and be
Speaker 4: there for them and stuff.
Speaker 3: How's everything going with your girlfriend?
Speaker 4: It's pretty solid. We'll have like a weird couple of days,
Speaker 4: but I'm not like mean to her or anything, you know.
Speaker 4: And she has a lot of her own mental illness
Speaker 4: that she's dealing with. But we'll have like a day
Speaker 4: there or so. We're just like really quiet and weird
Speaker 4: between us. We don't really talk, but it's not like
Speaker 4: we like yell at each other or anything.
Speaker 3: Hmm. Okay, what do you do for like a living
Speaker 3: for job?
Speaker 4: I grow cannabis.
Speaker 3: Okay, are you are you? Are you getting high every day? Yes?
Speaker 4: I have been smoking every day since like twenty sixteen,
Speaker 4: and it's a problem. There was a lot more other drugs,
Speaker 4: but I've leaned just down to like lead and mushrooms
Speaker 4: every once in a while.
Speaker 3: And how do the drugs affect the general like anger problems?
Speaker 3: Like what what have you observed from your anecdotal evidence
Speaker 3: is a relationship between the two.
Speaker 4: I feel like if I'm getting too high all the
Speaker 4: time after a bit of that I'll start to get
Speaker 4: a little more irritated with people. But for the most part,
Speaker 4: I do feel like the Dad's kind of like numb
Speaker 4: me down from a lot of the extra stimulus. And
Speaker 4: I've be hitting the gym all the time. That helped
Speaker 4: you a lot.
Speaker 3: Good, Great, that's good. Well, uh h, where should we
Speaker 3: go from here? I guess I'll ask this, like what
Speaker 3: and just maybe this is helpful for you to just
Speaker 3: say on here to me, but like what practical steps
Speaker 3: do you want to take moving forward to like improve
Speaker 3: yourself and improve your life and improve these these issues
Speaker 3: that you're having.
Speaker 4: Ah, other than therapy, I definitely need to meditate more.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good, Like.
Speaker 4: That Deely helps a lot.
Speaker 3: Meditation is an interesting thing because I don't I I
Speaker 3: don't view meditation as uh and I actually I've been
Speaker 3: very out of like I used to be like, all right,
Speaker 3: let me get ten minutes in when I can, But
Speaker 3: then it becomes like a just like another stupid fucking
Speaker 3: routine thing, right, Like it doesn't actually do anything. The meditation.
Speaker 3: The whole idea of the meditation is creating mindfulness, especially
Speaker 3: when you fucking need it, right, like when you're in
Speaker 3: the car, and when you're pissed off, that's when you
Speaker 3: need it the most, and it should become an excite
Speaker 3: and it should become an exciting thing for you. Similar
Speaker 3: to how you go to the gym and you see
Speaker 3: your progress and you see your body changing and that's
Speaker 3: exciting for you, and that's motivating for you. It's the
Speaker 3: same thing with your brain, right because you have these
Speaker 3: like innate, like inherent first responses to things that are angry,
Speaker 3: like your road range. And the more often that you
Speaker 3: go through the process of okay, you're in your car
Speaker 3: and someone does something that pisses you off, you and
Speaker 3: you are mindful, and you see you can observe that
Speaker 3: you're fucking pissed off, and then you take control of
Speaker 3: that and you willfully silence it and let it simmer down.
Speaker 3: Every time you do that intentionally, it's like lifting a
Speaker 3: weight and it gets a little bit easier and you
Speaker 3: feel good about yourself because you can actually observe that
Speaker 3: you are gaining a mastery over your emotions in the
Speaker 3: same way that when you go to the gym, you're
Speaker 3: you're improving your body. So that's just like that's mindfulness, right,
Speaker 3: Like next time you're to that. I mean, I would
Speaker 3: think about that next time that you feel triggered by
Speaker 3: something pissing you off, just take like a second and go, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm pissed off right now. Let me like take back
Speaker 3: control of my life by not submitting to that emotion
Speaker 3: and by cooling the fuck down. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you're totally right. That's actually a big part
Speaker 4: of Buddhism is like becoming aware of the problem or
Speaker 4: the suffering in the first place. Yeah, and when you're aware,
Speaker 4: you can kind of like step in and stop it
Speaker 4: or change. And uh so that's why I am trying
Speaker 4: to do. You know, Like breathing has been a big
Speaker 4: part of like keeping myself cool and calm. Like social situation. Yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure, it's like the one thing we we always
Speaker 4: have to come back to. But I'll be so aware
Speaker 4: sometimes even in those mind states, it's like, I know
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be like that, but it's like I don't care.
Speaker 3: Mhm.
Speaker 4: But I appreciate the words of advice. I don't really
Speaker 4: expect you to have a solution, just something to talk about.
Speaker 4: It's cool that you called me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it's uh, it's it sounds like
Speaker 3: you're gonna be okay. It sounds like you're on an
Speaker 3: upward trajectory that will continue upward.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I think I'll be okay.
Speaker 3: What's your name again, John?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll call it John.
Speaker 3: John. Any movie recommendations to leave us with?
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm so happy you asked that because I'm
Speaker 4: such a movie buff.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: So, there's any psychedelics users and some acid in March?
Speaker 4: Jacobs Ladder pretty crazy, it'll put you into an ego death.
Speaker 4: I guess I just want saltburn. That bathtub scene was
Speaker 4: pretty crazy. But uh, you know, how about Hereditary?
Speaker 3: All right? Jacob's Ladder, Sulburn, and Hereditary. That's John's hot
Speaker 3: movie list of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Good see.
Speaker 3: Take care John?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Don't watch The Curse on Acid. It'll freak you out.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 3: Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 1: My name is?
Speaker 3: What's up? How's life it's going?
Speaker 1: I'm currently like two months pregnant?
Speaker 3: Interesting? How how do you How does that feel?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 3: Do you feel sick? Is that that's one of the
Speaker 3: pregnant things, is that you feel sick?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's been like the biggest problem of morning sick.
Speaker 1: I'm like literally on three medications. Oh my god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm on three medications where I had to run outside.
Speaker 1: So I'm not a brother.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm sorry I made a pregnant woman run
Speaker 3: take a phone call. I feel bad. I'm gonna go ahead.
Speaker 3: And I actually I called you because you texted me
Speaker 3: on the thing and you said that, hey, Lyle, I
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about how I unintentionally baby trapped somebody
Speaker 3: who hates me. Yeah, okay, and this is and you
Speaker 3: also said we're expecting our second kid, so this is
Speaker 3: the second kid. Yeah, okay, go ahead, tell your story.
Speaker 1: So basically, I met this person online in like twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen and I wasn't in a very good living situations.
Speaker 1: So he invited me to come see him, and I
Speaker 1: went like at least five hours away from where I
Speaker 1: lived to go meet this guy, and I ended up
Speaker 1: moving in with him like full time, literally like two
Speaker 1: weeks after that, which you know, didn't seem like the
Speaker 1: best idea, but here we are, but a year into
Speaker 1: that relationship, he really didn't want to be with me,
Speaker 1: and literally, like right after he said that I was pregnant,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, well shit, because it was
Speaker 1: way too far along to do anything about it.
Speaker 3: And so then this baby was so this baby, I
Speaker 3: assume was was not planned.
Speaker 1: No, I thought that I wasn't fertile, and this person
Speaker 1: did too, mostly because he has a medical condition and
Speaker 1: I was told by a doctor that I was infertile.
Speaker 3: That's why you can't trust doctors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this kid is now three years old, almost, and
Speaker 1: the same thing happened again. We were just like, you know,
Speaker 1: it took us almost a year to get pregnant with
Speaker 1: that first kid, Like, what's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 1: And then lo and behold the second kid. We were
Speaker 1: just like, damn, definitely our fault. But he like constantly
Speaker 1: is just like, yeah, you baby trap and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But wait, so I'm confused. So you were dating this Garya.
Speaker 3: You kind of got into this, this this wild thing
Speaker 3: with this guy that you met online a few years ago,
Speaker 3: and he said he didn't want a relationship with you.
Speaker 3: And then right when he said that, you found out
Speaker 3: you were pregnant with the first kid. Yeah, okay, and
Speaker 3: then three years later you're pregnant with another one of
Speaker 3: another kid by the same guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, when he said he didn't want a relationship with you.
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm I guess I'm confused to how
Speaker 3: you guys rekindled or what happened after that.
Speaker 1: Basically, I had gotten pregnant. And it's not like he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, don't go get an abortion, but personally
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea. Like I'm okay with other
Speaker 1: people getting abortions and all that. I'm perfectly fine with that,
Speaker 1: but personally it just kind of like irks me. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, ooh, I don't really want to do that.
Speaker 1: And his family was very happy. He was very happy
Speaker 1: because he had tried to have kids before and he couldn't.
Speaker 1: So it was kind of like a bad situation turned
Speaker 1: into a good situation.
Speaker 3: I guess how old is this guy?
Speaker 1: When we met? I was seventeen and he was eighteen.
Speaker 1: He was turning nineteen, okay, and now I'm twenty two
Speaker 1: and he's twenty four, all.
Speaker 3: Right, And is he still like in the baby's life?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we lived together.
Speaker 3: Oh so you live with you live with this guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So when he says he's baby, when he says he's
Speaker 3: you baby trapped him? Is he just joking?
Speaker 1: Well no, because he was trying to break up with
Speaker 1: me and getting like trying to get me to move out,
Speaker 1: and then I had a missed period and I was
Speaker 1: really sick, and he was like, if you're not pregnant,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, you gotta leave by this day. And
Speaker 1: he was like, you got to leave by the end
Speaker 1: of January. And I figured out that I was pregnant
Speaker 1: in like January first, I think, so that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of the whole situation. He was like on the step
Speaker 1: of getting me to get the fuck out, and then
Speaker 1: that happened.
Speaker 3: So you guys are eighteen and you have a baby.
Speaker 3: But he says he wants to break up with you,
Speaker 3: and uh, do you guys just not break up? Like
Speaker 3: I guess, I'm confused about whether or not you stayed together.
Speaker 1: We did stay together because I was living with him
Speaker 1: and again, and I said, I was like five hours
Speaker 1: away from where I grew up, So I had moved
Speaker 1: five hours away to go be with him, and at
Speaker 1: that point I didn't really have anywhere to go back
Speaker 1: where I was from. So me being pregnant, he was
Speaker 1: just like, well, I don't really want you to leave
Speaker 1: with the baby because I feel like that that wouldn't
Speaker 1: be great for the kid, and he wanted the kid
Speaker 1: in his life.
Speaker 3: So and then this and then you're and you're pregnant
Speaker 3: right now? Yeah, and is this kid? Was this kid
Speaker 3: planned or was this another accident?
Speaker 1: This one was definitely another accident.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I got what is the what's the relationship
Speaker 3: between you and this guy? Because like, are you guys?
Speaker 3: Are you guys together or are you Do you like
Speaker 3: each other? Even if.
Speaker 1: The relationship still together? We definitely have had a lot
Speaker 1: of ups and downs having to do with a lot
Speaker 1: of different things, and you know, me growing up in
Speaker 1: him growing up kind of helped us come more together.
Speaker 1: But the easiest way to say it is like he
Speaker 1: definitely still hates me, Like he does dislike me quite
Speaker 1: a bit, but we get along and you know, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of common interest. So it's again, it's
Speaker 1: like a really weird situation.
Speaker 3: Do you really think this guy that you live with,
Speaker 3: that you're raising a kid with that I guess is
Speaker 3: your boyfriend? He hates you.
Speaker 1: We definitely get into it a lot over like pretty
Speaker 1: stupid things. I had some pretty bad mental issues that
Speaker 1: I had not dealt with when I had moved in
Speaker 1: with him, So I think that's a little bit of it,
Speaker 1: because I would have these like terrible panic attacks where
Speaker 1: I would lash out and get angry and all that
Speaker 1: kind of fun stuff.
Speaker 3: How is it living with him and raising this kid
Speaker 3: with him and dealing with your pregnancy with him? Like,
Speaker 3: are you do you guys have enough of a relationship
Speaker 3: together that's positive enough that you don't feel, uh like
Speaker 3: completely miserable about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't feel miserable. He doesn't feel miserable,
Speaker 1: But there's definitely times where he just makes the point of, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of baby trapping me a little bit,
Speaker 1: like I was trying to trying to move on with
Speaker 1: my life, but you go, you know, he he loves
Speaker 1: his son and all that.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if I would. I
Speaker 3: don't know if I would say that you baby trapped him,
Speaker 3: because it does take two people to make a baby. Yeah, hmmm.
Speaker 3: So well, I mean just like a point and simple
Speaker 3: and you know, uh, point and that does that's not
Speaker 3: a word. I don't know why I said point and simple,
Speaker 3: plain and simple? What the fuck is point and simple? Okay?
Speaker 3: So I mean today present, let's let's do this, And
Speaker 3: maybe you just wanted to come on and tell the story,
Speaker 3: but like, is there any like is is you said
Speaker 3: you weren't miserable, you said that you're How are you?
Speaker 3: How are you doing in this situation? Like do you
Speaker 3: feel good? Do you feel are you are you happy
Speaker 3: about having the kids? Are you happy about life? Are
Speaker 3: you happy about the are you excited about the future?
Speaker 3: Like how are you? How are you feeling about everything
Speaker 3: that you're this whole saga that you've you've ran us through.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely happy. There is kind of like a little
Speaker 1: kicker to the story. You know, when my son, like
Speaker 1: right before he had turned one, his mom just just
Speaker 1: to make a long story short, his mom found out
Speaker 1: that her husband was cheating. So they ended up having
Speaker 1: to move back to where they came from, which is
Speaker 1: like six states away. So I ended up having to
Speaker 1: go with them and move out of the state that
Speaker 1: I live in. So we've all just kind of been
Speaker 1: and that like his mom's grandma's house, living in their
Speaker 1: living room. So I am excited. This is this is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to explain. I am excited, but we
Speaker 1: are not in a great living situation and we're trying
Speaker 1: to get out of it. But when that guy had
Speaker 1: cheated on his mom, he gave us an eviction notice,
Speaker 1: so we can't get approved for any apartments in mistake.
Speaker 1: That's like the biggest issue. It's like the only wait,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: Let me get let me, let me, let me, let
Speaker 3: me understand this real quick. So your is he your boyfriend?
Speaker 3: Do I call him your boyfriend? What do I call him?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I would say boyfriends?
Speaker 3: Okay, So your boyfriend's mom was dating a guy who
Speaker 3: cheated on her, and so he evicted your boyfriend's mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then everyone in the house because it.
Speaker 3: Was his house, and is and is your and your
Speaker 3: name and your boyfriend's name were on the lease of
Speaker 3: this house that is owned by the guy that your
Speaker 3: boyfriend's mom was dating.
Speaker 1: Yes, my well, my boyfriend's name was on the lea,
Speaker 1: but technically, since we had lived there, he put every
Speaker 1: single person's name that lived in the house had to
Speaker 1: be out by a certain date, So then we all
Speaker 1: ended up moving.
Speaker 3: Is that even Is that legal to just kick something?
Speaker 3: Is that even legal to just evict someone for no reason?
Speaker 1: Well, he gave us thirty days and I don't even know,
Speaker 1: like if it is legal. Maybe I'm not looking at
Speaker 1: the chat at all because I can't really talk.
Speaker 3: About the chat. Yeah, the twitch chat is not where
Speaker 3: you go to for legal advice. So that's fine, Okay.
Speaker 1: I was I was just gonna say, maybe somebody would
Speaker 1: know if it's illegal.
Speaker 3: No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't at all. Okay, So where
Speaker 3: are you living now?
Speaker 1: We are still living with his maternal grandparents, so his
Speaker 1: mom's mom, and she she very much dislikes us. She
Speaker 1: loves her grandson her way. Yeah, it'll be her great grandson. Actually,
Speaker 1: she loves her great grandson. She actually doesn't know that
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant with the second kid right now. So we're
Speaker 1: trying our hardest to move out as soon as possible
Speaker 1: before telling her.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you keep running into I'm sorry you keep
Speaker 3: running into all these people who you feel like don't
Speaker 3: like you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the people and his family don't
Speaker 1: specifically like me. There's been times where I've eavesdropped when
Speaker 1: they've been talking outside and they're just like, oh, she
Speaker 1: ruined his life, blah blah blah. But he again, he
Speaker 1: just wanted kids because he has like a he has diabetes,
Speaker 1: so he wasn't specifically considered fertile. They told him that
Speaker 1: he could probably couldn't have kids because of it.
Speaker 3: The whole lot. I have never heard of that in mind.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I've never heard
Speaker 3: of that in my entire life, that diabetes leads to infertility.
Speaker 1: It's like something having to do with like like sperm account.
Speaker 1: If you don't take care of your diabetes, it makes
Speaker 1: it a lot harder. And he did not take care
Speaker 1: of it when we were living in the other state.
Speaker 3: So what I'm hearing is that, what I'm hearing is
Speaker 3: something about Reese's cups being a good form of birth control.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make note of that, all right. So well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll just say this, and I'm not just
Speaker 3: blowing smoke out of your ass. You seem you seem
Speaker 3: like you, I mean, you seem like you have been
Speaker 3: handling the uh drama of your life pretty well. Like
Speaker 3: in High.
Speaker 1: Spirits, there's been a couple of mental breakdowns and a
Speaker 1: little bit of alcoholism in between.
Speaker 3: But so, okay, well let's talk about this. For the alcoholism,
Speaker 3: are you still is that still a thing? Or is
Speaker 3: that kind of no.
Speaker 1: I I had stopped drinking a while back. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is a completely different story. The last thing that
Speaker 1: I had texted you was about my job. It wasn't
Speaker 1: specifically about drinking, but I because of my job, I
Speaker 1: would literally drink every fucking day.
Speaker 3: Like constantly, Yeah, do you have a job? Does he
Speaker 3: have a job?
Speaker 2: He has a job.
Speaker 1: I do too, but it's kind of up in the
Speaker 1: air right now because there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: need help in different parts of the city, and they
Speaker 1: keep moving me around to different Domino's locations, and it's
Speaker 1: not specifically the greatest because every year that I've been
Speaker 1: to is really understaffed. It's sucked up.
Speaker 3: Do you and him have enough financial stability to like
Speaker 3: move out and get a place and raise a kid?
Speaker 1: Yes? More likely yes them. No, Okay, once we do
Speaker 1: move out, we won't have his family to help watch
Speaker 1: our kids. The one of us would be at home
Speaker 1: and one of us would be working, which I assume
Speaker 1: I'd be the one at home.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And is that like findinancially viable for him
Speaker 3: to go work and make enough money to support all
Speaker 3: those people while you take care of the kids. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: So all right, So that's I mean, that's that's fantastic
Speaker 3: to hear because that's uh, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to find a fucking job that can
Speaker 3: support like a whole ass family, especially if he's only
Speaker 3: twenty four. What's he do for what's he do for work?
Speaker 1: I'm curious he works at a fast food burger place.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's great to hear that you guys are
Speaker 3: doing good financially, do are you? I mean you sound
Speaker 3: like you're in a tough situation, but again, it sounds
Speaker 3: like you're handling it pretty well. Like you don't You're
Speaker 3: not sitting here like, oh I feel trapped with this
Speaker 3: guy or I feel trapped with this thing, Like are
Speaker 3: you Are you enjoying being a mom? Are you enjoying
Speaker 3: all that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I'm enjoying all that.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm hmm. Well okay, I mean let me ask
Speaker 3: you this, right and maybe again, like I said, maybe
Speaker 3: you just wanted to call in to tell the story,
Speaker 3: But like, is there any aspect of any of this
Speaker 3: that like you want, like anything else you want to
Speaker 3: talk through or like that you want perspective on or
Speaker 3: like how can I be of Gecko service to you.
Speaker 3: If if if for anything other than just telling the story,
Speaker 3: it's okay. If not, it's okay. If you think I'm
Speaker 3: fucking stupid, you don't want to hear what I have
Speaker 3: to say?
Speaker 1: Was not prepared?
Speaker 3: You don't you don't have to be ready. It sounds
Speaker 3: like the answer is no, which is fine because I
Speaker 3: don't know anything about life. But well, all right, you're
Speaker 3: doing okay. Just by the way, can I just say
Speaker 3: something to you because you keep saying, like your boyfriend
Speaker 3: if he keeps saying I don't know if he's joking,
Speaker 3: and I don't know your guys' relationship and whatever, but
Speaker 3: just for your own sake, does it make you feel
Speaker 3: bad when your boyfriend says you baby trapped him a
Speaker 3: little bit?
Speaker 1: But I do understand because again he had told me, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't told us time to get out,
Speaker 1: and then all that happened, so he was definitely trying
Speaker 1: to get rid of me, and then he was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, a baby, and then he he still my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: He gave me a ring after that, and he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I want both of us to be in
Speaker 1: this kid's life because he has divorced parents. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of the biggest part about it about it is
Speaker 1: I feel like he just didn't want to ruin that
Speaker 1: kid's life.
Speaker 3: As you get go, well next, just next time your
Speaker 3: boyfriend tells you that you baby trapped him, let him
Speaker 3: know that it takes two people to make a baby.
Speaker 3: Like just I just don't don't let that make you
Speaker 3: feel like shitty, you know, because you keep telling me
Speaker 3: that everyone in this you run into in this universe
Speaker 3: doesn't like you. But that's just, uh, this is not fair,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, well good luck? What uh when's the
Speaker 3: baby you do?
Speaker 1: Oh? My god, I feel really terrible about this. I
Speaker 1: already know the gender. It's a girl, right, and my
Speaker 1: first kid as a boy, and they're two the same
Speaker 1: exact days, so I actuel like this kid's gonna be
Speaker 1: born like the same day or around the same day
Speaker 1: as my son.
Speaker 3: Says so much money on birthday parties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like he's gonna hold it against me
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. He's gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: her birthday was better than mine, her presents were better
Speaker 1: than mine. Like that.
Speaker 3: You keep mentioning all these things that involve people, people
Speaker 3: being upset with you, and.
Speaker 1: I hope you the anxiety.
Speaker 3: I hope you do that less.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do too.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 3: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 1: If you meet somebody online, do not immediately move in
Speaker 1: with them. That is my best advice.
Speaker 3: This is why we do this podcast so that others
Speaker 3: can share their life experience and help inform the listeners.
Speaker 3: So thank you for sharing your story and ghek bless
Speaker 3: you for a thousand years.
Speaker 1: Gek bless you too. Have a good night. Bye.
Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, bruh, bro? You like called instantly, Like I.
Speaker 3: Just texted, what's your name? My name? My name is Alex, Alex.
Speaker 3: How old are you Alex?
Speaker 6: I'm twenty?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well what's going on? Alex? Would want to talk
Speaker 3: about today?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, you know, a long time listening here.
Speaker 6: I've been listening to you since since you started basically
Speaker 6: or you should stream my lob was like reddit or whatever.
Speaker 6: M yeah, yeah, this is kind of insane. I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna lila. Everyone says that on the podcast, but it's
Speaker 6: like damn. But yeah, yeah, I've been listening for a
Speaker 6: while and on the podcast. It says philosophy. I don't
Speaker 6: know if you did it on purpose or yeah, it
Speaker 6: says philosophy podcast. And you know, I'm a philosopher technically.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm still stupid, but I am a philosopher.
Speaker 6: And you know, some of the stuff or some sometimes
Speaker 6: you just chat. I don't know if you know what
Speaker 6: I mean by that, but sometimes you just you just chat. Yeah,
Speaker 6: like uh, sometimes like you say, like, you know, I
Speaker 6: don't want to give advice. And then sometimes it's like
Speaker 6: either like bad philosophy or it's like you're kind of
Speaker 6: sometimes you're spitting. But yeah, that's what I wanted to
Speaker 6: talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what kind of Uh oh yeah, well yeah, you
Speaker 3: text I called you because you texted in and you
Speaker 3: wanted to say, uh, you said, I'm a philosopher, and
Speaker 3: I wanted to call you to tell you that you
Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I kind have said it.
Speaker 6: I was, you know, I'm not gonna lie. I was
Speaker 6: trying to say something to you know, to get a call.
Speaker 6: But no, I mean, I mean, no, no disrespect.
Speaker 5: Guest.
Speaker 3: Well here you are. You have you have challenged me,
Speaker 3: and therefore I call upon you to explain.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, so when I'm listening to the podcast, I
Speaker 6: don't know. Sometimes you talk about like life and death
Speaker 6: and you'll bring up like random philosophers or like yeah,
Speaker 6: you'll just bring up like random philosophers and like you'll
Speaker 6: say their name, you'll say a quote as it's like
Speaker 6: really profound, and sometimes it's not, and I mean like
Speaker 6: no disrespect, like no disrespect or like as a you know,
Speaker 6: I study these.
Speaker 3: I guess I could tell you what I do, well,
Speaker 3: hold on, but I don't. Before you do that, Before
Speaker 3: you do that, give me an example, give.
Speaker 6: You an example.
Speaker 3: I can't remember, like no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no no. You got to come in hot, you
Speaker 3: got to come in with an example. You were You
Speaker 3: did not come into this challenge prepared, my friend.
Speaker 6: You're right, You're right. I guess, yeah, I should have.
Speaker 6: I should have pulled up some some some examples. But
Speaker 6: there was this one time I do remember you. This
Speaker 6: is like probably like last year, but this guy was
Speaker 6: like going through hard times and you brought up I
Speaker 6: don't remember, you brought up this book from this philosopher,
Speaker 6: like this pop philosopher basically, which by that I mean
Speaker 6: he's you know, like in the nineties, a whole bunch
Speaker 6: of like people thought, like you know, they knew stuff,
Speaker 6: and they would just published stuff. And you brought him
Speaker 6: up and I can't remember his name, but I remember
Speaker 6: you brought the book and I looked at the book
Speaker 6: and I was just like, this is not this is
Speaker 6: not this is not philosophy.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, okay, what's what's what's your what's your
Speaker 3: name again? What's your name again? My name is Alex Alex.
Speaker 3: If I could, I'd like to quote one of my
Speaker 3: favorite philosophers, Plato, who did once say, if you're gonna
Speaker 3: come in hot, you need examples, concrete examples. He did
Speaker 3: say that, Okay, and you need to prove that he
Speaker 3: didn't say that or else. I'm just gonna believe he did, right.
Speaker 6: I mean, when you're talking about Plato, like I read Plato,
Speaker 6: I studied Plato, like I just want to know, like
Speaker 6: what example, like you're talking about like Plato Republic, like
Speaker 6: we can talk about like we can talk about philosophy.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, sure, I think it was Plato who once said, uh,
Speaker 3: he once said, uh, you should eat at a deficit
Speaker 3: of five hundred calories if you want to try to
Speaker 3: lose weight. What else did he say, Oh, Plato, here's
Speaker 3: what he said. He said, he said, my uncle works
Speaker 3: at Nintendo, and he told me that if you swim
Speaker 3: to a certain part in the Peaches Garden and super
Speaker 3: Mario sixty four and you mash a a lot when
Speaker 3: you're in that part, you can unlock Luigi. That's something
Speaker 3: that Plato said. I don't know if you studied the
Speaker 3: Plato's discovery of the unlocking of Luigi and super Mario
Speaker 3: sixty four.
Speaker 6: Well, no, I'm not familiar with that.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're you know what, you know what? Okay, hold on,
Speaker 3: I actually I'm wrong about that. That was Socrates who said,
Speaker 3: who've found I had to unlock Luigi and super Mario
Speaker 3: sixty four?
Speaker 6: No, no, you might, yeah you might. You might actually
Speaker 6: be talking now, I mean, okay, right, this is this
Speaker 6: is the main reason. And yeah, this is this is
Speaker 6: the main reason I wanted to talk to you, because
Speaker 6: I feel like like maybe it should change the podcast
Speaker 6: on Spotify, at least on Spotify, says h philosophy, But
Speaker 6: like anyone could talk like, you know, I mean, anyone
Speaker 6: could say opinions. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they're
Speaker 6: I'm sounding like such like a like a like elitist,
Speaker 6: like like asshole right now, I'm trying not to, I promise,
Speaker 6: but like I don't know, like anyone, like anyone can
Speaker 6: go on Twitter, anyone could do like say this and that.
Speaker 6: You never claimed to be a philosopher, but no I.
Speaker 3: Should I do. I think, you know, if anyone, anyone
Speaker 3: could be a philosopher, what are you talking about? Socrates?
Speaker 3: Socrates is just was just a guy, all right. He
Speaker 3: was a guy and he thought about stuff and he
Speaker 3: said things and they and people were like, oh, the
Speaker 3: things that you're saying are cool, and they thought that
Speaker 3: his things were so cool that he said that you
Speaker 3: can now spend two hundred thousand dollars to go study
Speaker 3: what he said because what he said was that cool.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that he you know, it's what
Speaker 3: It's not science, you know, I mean, science is like
Speaker 3: there is and there isn't. But philosophy you can totally
Speaker 3: just say.
Speaker 6: Stuff, Yeah, there's a structure to it, you know, like okay.
Speaker 3: Who yeah, but yeah, but who created that structure?
Speaker 1: Who created it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wait, I actually I have an answer to this, Alex.
Speaker 3: I know who created it? Who some fucking guy, and
Speaker 3: I'm some fucking guy too, and you're some fucking guy,
Speaker 3: and everyone listening to this is some fucking guy. So
Speaker 3: they can all go create some fucking whatever, bullshit whatever
Speaker 3: thing too, and there we go.
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, yeah, I guess. I guess I was
Speaker 6: just a little I guess a little like like damn,
Speaker 6: like like like you know, like damn like it's this
Speaker 6: philosophy I don't understand. But I mean, you never did
Speaker 6: claim to be a philosopher, and I know you don't claim.
Speaker 3: You know what. You know what I did, you know
Speaker 3: what I didn't. But now I'm going to start.
Speaker 6: You're right, I think you should well thank you.
Speaker 3: This was you know what I'm I gotta say this,
Speaker 3: Alex and this is the word I want to use.
Speaker 3: This conversation was enlightening for me?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: It was? It was? It reinforced you you can in here.
Speaker 3: I think, uh I I reinforced. I think the idea
Speaker 3: is that that I that I want. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'm saying. This is this?
Speaker 3: Is it? Right? You can just do you think Socrates
Speaker 3: would have had a podcast where he just like said
Speaker 3: ship you know without even like like like what I
Speaker 3: like like sometimes the cool the cool thing about having
Speaker 3: a podcast you can like start a sentence. You can
Speaker 3: just start talking and try like saying a point, and
Speaker 3: then at some point when you realize that you actually
Speaker 3: don't have a point, you can just kind of like, Alex,
Speaker 3: is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 3: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: No, I mean yes, yes, yeah, I do. I just
Speaker 6: want to say, you know, like peace and love and
Speaker 6: prosperity and thank you ghek. Yeah, I've been listening for
Speaker 6: a while now, and I just I'm always I've tried
Speaker 6: to call him before and I just you know, I
Speaker 6: got in and thank you.
Speaker 3: Hey, as Aristotle said, stay stay stoned, bitches.
Speaker 4: The rep get goes on the line taking your phone
Speaker 4: calls every night. The repeat goes doing his ride.
Speaker 3: Who's teaching you Cloud of your life?
Speaker 1: But he's not ready an expert