WEBVTT - “I WAS KIDNAPPED BY MY TUTOR”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hi there, Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this the therapy?

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<v Speaker 3>Here go? This is this is therapy? Gecko? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Not in mind? I was just chilling walks in the stream.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your name? What's your where? What's your home address?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Ox and I live in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh cool? You know that song that Chance the Rapper

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<v Speaker 3>does where he goes hot Atlanta hot water, hot shower. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a great song.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's a good song.

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<v Speaker 3>What else do I know about? I used to live.

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<v Speaker 3>I lived in Atlanta for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I lived there. Uh the Gucci Maine, Mexaco.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh cool. Yeah, it's it's a good it's a fun place.

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<v Speaker 3>There's the You ever been to the Oh you ever

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<v Speaker 3>been to the Museum of Coca Cola.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I actually got sick in the bathroom there one time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that sounds like a good place to get sick

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<v Speaker 3>in the bathroom because they got a lot of seltzer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There were the Varsity.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh the Varsity. Oh my god, this is we're getting

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<v Speaker 3>Atlanta specific. But I love I love the Varsity of

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<v Speaker 3>Varsity fucking rocks. It's uh. If you eat there more

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<v Speaker 3>than three times in a. I think you can. You

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<v Speaker 3>can probably only afford to eat their three times in

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<v Speaker 3>your life, or else you'll just die of Greece. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's good. I mean, give it a give a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I mean there a lot anyway. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it's I don't want to and I don't wanna isolate

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<v Speaker 3>our non Atlanta audience with this inside Baseball Talk os,

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<v Speaker 3>What is it you wanted to to talk about on

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<v Speaker 3>the on the Gecko thing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about the time I got napped

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<v Speaker 2>and taken on vacations.

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<v Speaker 3>Who kidnapped you?

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<v Speaker 2>This guy I was dating who was not very nice?

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<v Speaker 3>How old were you?

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<v Speaker 2>I was nineteen?

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<v Speaker 3>How'd you meet this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>He was my maths tutor in high school?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, we'll just get the way from here.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>So you met him when you were in high school,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you got a little bit older and graduated,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he kidnapped you.

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<v Speaker 5>We were dating, like when I was still in high school,

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<v Speaker 5>when he was like twenty street.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, why there were where did? I mean? Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll stop asking questions if you want to tell the story.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh god, okay, So we ended up living together for

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of years and he just got like more

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<v Speaker 5>and more horrible to me, and like he wouldn't let

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<v Speaker 5>me work certain ships at my job because he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>he was home and he didn't want me to be

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<v Speaker 5>anywhere else and like stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically we were living together and he just got

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<v Speaker 2>more and more horrible to me, and like he would

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<v Speaker 2>let me work certain shifts at my job and like

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't have Like he would go through my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew all my passwords, he made like my bank

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<v Speaker 2>account information, and he he was like, let's go on

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<v Speaker 2>a trip. And I was like, I really don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go on a trip. So he like got in

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<v Speaker 2>my phone, sent him him, sent himself like three thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars out of my bank account, and I was like

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck, Like I'm done with this, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about to go like bye, and he's like, no, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go on a trip. And I'm like what He basically

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<v Speaker 2>like forces me to go on a trip to Colorado?

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<v Speaker 3>How long were you in Colorado for?

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<v Speaker 2>For like a week?

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<v Speaker 3>What was that week?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy? Like he so I have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of tattoos at the time. I like even though I

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<v Speaker 2>was like younger, I thought a bunch of tattoost time,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't have any, and he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to pick out a tattoo for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And he basically like made me stay in the hotel

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<v Speaker 2>room half the time unless he wanted to do something

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<v Speaker 2>or I thought of something that he agreed to both doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know how people go to Colorado and smoked weeds.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't want to smoke any weed. Like whoves to

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. That's the worst That's the worst part

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<v Speaker 3>of this story to you, is that your your kidnapper

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to get high.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, man, he couldn't made it a little more

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<v Speaker 2>pleas that.

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<v Speaker 3>Geez, oh my god. Uh so this was two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>This is yeah, it was twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck? What what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>What happened with this guy? How'd you get away from him?

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<v Speaker 2>We landed on like we came back to where we were,

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<v Speaker 2>and we drove back at night, and I took all

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<v Speaker 2>my shit and I went to my parents' house. And

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<v Speaker 2>my parents like owned the house that we were living

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<v Speaker 2>in at the time, so they just like it was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>get your shit, get out, like trespassing the property. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>contact us anymore. I had to get I couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>a restraining order in the town that we lived in

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<v Speaker 2>because the town that I lived in, that the house

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<v Speaker 2>was in, didn't like allow restraining orders.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, your parents owned a place that you

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<v Speaker 3>and that guy were living at together. Guys, how did

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<v Speaker 3>you did your parents know about like all this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like when it happened, like when it was

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<v Speaker 2>going on, Like no, they just knew I was like

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<v Speaker 2>going on a trip, like a spontaneous trip, but they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know, like about all the crazy like abuse stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that really just knew and they didn't want to do

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<v Speaker 2>anything about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my mom had a really complicated relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>So okay, So and this was two years ago. This

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<v Speaker 3>guy doesn't see and still contact you or anything? Does he?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I haven't heard from him, like since all

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<v Speaker 2>that happened. Thank god?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Well that's cool. Are you? Uh have you

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<v Speaker 3>have you entered into a more stable relationship since then,

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<v Speaker 3>or or or rather even found stability within yourself? Like

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<v Speaker 3>how how have you uh healed so to speak? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like I got diagnosed with PTSD because

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<v Speaker 2>of like that relationship, which sucks. But I mean I've

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<v Speaker 2>just taken each day at a time and being nice

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<v Speaker 2>to myself and you know, learning how to be normal.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>He kidnapped you, took you to Denver and didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even get you any dabs.

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<v Speaker 2>No, right, it was in May too. Seven ten?

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<v Speaker 3>What's seven ten?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the dab day?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, I have no I had no idea there

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<v Speaker 3>was four twenty four dabs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, you didn't know about dab day seven ten? Man,

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<v Speaker 2>what is.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you get? How did how did we get?

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<v Speaker 3>Seven ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like d he flipped it backwards? That says

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<v Speaker 2>like dab or something? Hey, and I can't ask my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>Who does Oh seven ten upside down as oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Oil that's what it is? Yeah, yeah, there it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So you have a new boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's crazy, but he's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Well hold on, now, I what's crazy you mean? Because

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<v Speaker 3>he's like I feel like your bar. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the bar for crazy is now pretty high.

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<v Speaker 2>He just like builds crazy shit all the time. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in My house was just full of like random objects

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<v Speaker 2>that are like right now, my house is filled with

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<v Speaker 2>like old Naruto comics from two thousand and eight, because

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<v Speaker 2>apparently he's like flipping him on either there was like

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<v Speaker 2>a whole kill in my backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Naruto comic book collector guy way better than

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<v Speaker 3>a creepy math teacher. Guy's significantly better kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, man, how'd you guys meet?

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<v Speaker 2>I snuck into a bar when I was like nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>and we were talking, me and my friend, who was

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty five at the time. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>we were in a different town because I had to

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<v Speaker 2>go get like a procedure done, and this is like

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like far away from where I lived.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were like at a bar just hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>and that we that I have snuck into, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was just this guy across the bar. He was staring

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<v Speaker 2>at me, and he had a bunch of any of

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<v Speaker 2>two other friends with him, And then me and my

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<v Speaker 2>friend started talking about doing dabs and they're like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to come do dabs with us? And we're

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<v Speaker 2>like hell yeah, And so we just went to the

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<v Speaker 2>random house at like, you know, nine o'clock at night.

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<v Speaker 3>Is weird? Like is that connect you to people. You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>if somebody is really like it? Yeah, are you high

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<v Speaker 3>right now? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm hitting the dab pen. I was just smoking

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<v Speaker 2>the bong and walking in the living room watching the stream.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool. Well, all right, so how long have you

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<v Speaker 3>been dating the Naruto guy for?

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<v Speaker 2>Like almost it'll be three years in November. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm bad at math.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool. M Well, are you feeling good about life

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<v Speaker 3>in general? It sounds like everything's going okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I love life, man. I'm happy to be

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<v Speaker 2>here finally. You know, it's not as bad as it's

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<v Speaker 2>called cracked out to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you sound high. I never knew about seven ten.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta do. I gotta I haven't. I've said this

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<v Speaker 3>eight thousand times on this fucking thing, but I've never

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<v Speaker 3>done never. I haven't done like real dabs in a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I do the pen, but like I haven't done the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing with the torch and the booger.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really? While, Yeah, when you come to Atlanta, I

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<v Speaker 2>can heck you up with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Or isn't it legal? Do I need a secret hookup?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is it is it legal?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not legal here, unfortunately, unless you want like the

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<v Speaker 2>thhd A, but I mean like it's not as a

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<v Speaker 2>good quality.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, thanks for sharing this story about uh the

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this genuine me thank you for sharing this

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<v Speaker 3>story about the worst thing that's ever happened to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that's the worst thing that's ever happened to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean that as in I hope that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have you know what I'm trying to say. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope that you don't have a second worst thing that

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<v Speaker 3>you're holding back, that that's the worst, that God didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Lyle.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, is there anything else you want to say

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<v Speaker 3>to the people of the computer before we go, or

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<v Speaker 3>or you, or any other aspect of any of this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff for life in general that you wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about or anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm? Be nice, love yourself, love everybody, and get nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much. Having the rest of the night

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<v Speaker 3>you too, Lyle, Love you. Oh man? What a side hustle?

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<v Speaker 3>I collecting Naruto comics. That's that's that's the guy that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's hot Lana right there, A guy who deals dabs

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<v Speaker 3>and uh Naruto manga. Hey, folks, this is Lyle. I

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<v Speaker 3>and you can get tickets for all of those cities

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<v Speaker 3>at therapy geckotour dot com. If you didn't hear me

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<v Speaker 3>say your city, you can still go to the link

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<v Speaker 3>and hit the RSVP button to get notified for when

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<v Speaker 3>I do come to your city in the second half

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. This is my third tour so far,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's going to be sick, so I

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<v Speaker 3>hope to see you there. Thanks. Somebody just texted me

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<v Speaker 3>saying in all caps, I have psychopathic tendencies? Is that worth?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Should I? Should we do that one? Or is that

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<v Speaker 3>too crazy? Why not? Okay, let's give it, let's try it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Oka, Hi there. What's your name? Sir?

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<v Speaker 4>Is John?

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<v Speaker 3>John? How's life John?

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty well. Sorry, I'm pretty dabbed out right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not expect you to call.

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<v Speaker 3>You're dabbed out right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you hit the what you hit the rig?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I got the rigs over in the Michigan So

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<v Speaker 4>everything's that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I even taken like all the pens are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>oil now, but I haven't taken a a real motherfucking

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<v Speaker 3>like dab in a while. I'm sure I've said this

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast before, but dabs are fascinating because I

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<v Speaker 3>remember doing them in high school and like thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if my mom walked in on me lighting

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<v Speaker 3>something with a torch, she wouldn't think it was pot.

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<v Speaker 3>She would think it was like a significantly harder drug.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything that you do with as a that involves a

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<v Speaker 3>fucking torch is uh, definitely schedule one. H Is that

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<v Speaker 3>what you did? You did? You did the torch thing

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<v Speaker 3>with a little booger of oil and you did all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the whole thc overloads.

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<v Speaker 3>I missed that ship. I haven't done that in a

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<v Speaker 3>in a long I haven't done it in a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is that even if I did it now,

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<v Speaker 3>it just wouldn't be the same as doing it in

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<v Speaker 3>high school. Anyway, enough about me, Enough, enough of my memories.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, man? Would you want to talk about? Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess the only thing I really do

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<v Speaker 4>have to talk about is the psychopathic tendency.

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<v Speaker 3>The psychopathic tendencies.

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<v Speaker 4>No how else I call it. But uh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I just don't have a lot of remorse or

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<v Speaker 4>like bad feelings when I hurt people, and it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of took me a long time to associate hurting people

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<v Speaker 4>with like, you know, you shouldn't do that to the

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<v Speaker 4>people that you love, and it creates negative things in

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<v Speaker 4>your relationship. And through psychedelics and stuff, I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>it's helped me understand that. But still, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>have my problems with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you physically hurting people?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I used to, you know, fight, and I definitely wash

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<v Speaker 4>out it people, definitely emotionally. I really tried not to anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>but I can be a little hurtful with my words.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think is what do you think happened

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<v Speaker 3>to cause you to change?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if it's like a nature versus nurture whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I had some traumatic experiences growing up, you know

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<v Speaker 4>my I feel it was weird talking about it, But

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<v Speaker 4>you're the guy, so I feel like I can but

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<v Speaker 4>only one Yeah, but uh, you know, my stepdad killed

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<v Speaker 4>himself when I was younger, and I didn't see it,

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<v Speaker 4>but my mom witnessed it. I remember all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you know, some other things that happened Bill

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of brought dust into my life at a

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<v Speaker 4>young age and then kind of made me uh, just

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<v Speaker 4>careless with it, not quite careless. I just can't think

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<v Speaker 4>of the right word.

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<v Speaker 3>How old are you now?

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty six?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Cool? And so all right? So, I mean from

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<v Speaker 3>the way that you're telling the story, it sounds like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're on an upward trajectory.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know a lot of psychedelics and some Buddhism

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<v Speaker 4>and shit and faking it.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you seen a therapist to talk about this?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I've done everything. Who do like that? See a therapist?

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<v Speaker 4>I know I need to, but I don't have health

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<v Speaker 4>insurance right now, and even if I did, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that could just be an next few making. But I

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<v Speaker 4>know I do need to see a therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm, So I get well, you should talk to

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<v Speaker 3>a real therapist about like all right, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 3>so you feel like you're on an upper trajectory, you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you've gotten a little bit better at handling

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<v Speaker 3>your anger issues and whatnot? What do you what's left?

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<v Speaker 3>What ways do you feel like you still hurt people

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<v Speaker 3>or are still get angry that you want to change?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I thought I got rid of a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the problems, and that's but it was more like I

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<v Speaker 4>got rid of all the triggers in my life. I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just like broke off from everything, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I got a girlfriend I had to start working through

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of that shit again. But honestly, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like for the most part, it's just like like people

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<v Speaker 4>I work with, or like random people, or like road rage,

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<v Speaker 4>like I've got a few accidents in the past couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years, and like in some of those like mind states,

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<v Speaker 4>like I really just don't care if I kill myself

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<v Speaker 4>and somebody else because someone will just kiss me off.

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<v Speaker 3>M hm. So I guess what I'm thinking is like,

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<v Speaker 3>what tell me more? And I know you answered this

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<v Speaker 3>question already, but tell me more about how you feel

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<v Speaker 3>as though you've gotten better from where you once were,

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<v Speaker 3>and then how you can use that information to help

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<v Speaker 3>you deal with some of the remaining anger that you have.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm definitely more comfortable with myself, and I try to

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<v Speaker 4>love myself a little more, you know, Like I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like your relationship with yourself is really a reflection with

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<v Speaker 4>your relationship with others and vice versa. So like you

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<v Speaker 4>hate yourself, you definitely can I hate others. So I

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<v Speaker 4>really try and focus on my relationship with myself. I

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<v Speaker 4>definitely I don't lash out with the people really close

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<v Speaker 4>to me, and I try to make a like conscious

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<v Speaker 4>effort to like have good relationships with them and be

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<v Speaker 4>there for them and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>How's everything going with your girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty solid. We'll have like a weird couple of days,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm not like mean to her or anything, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And she has a lot of her own mental illness

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<v Speaker 4>that she's dealing with. But we'll have like a day

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<v Speaker 4>there or so. We're just like really quiet and weird

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<v Speaker 4>between us. We don't really talk, but it's not like

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<v Speaker 4>we like yell at each other or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm. Okay, what do you do for like a living

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<v Speaker 3>for job?

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<v Speaker 4>I grow cannabis.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, are you are you? Are you getting high every day? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>I have been smoking every day since like twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a problem. There was a lot more other drugs,

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<v Speaker 4>but I've leaned just down to like lead and mushrooms

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<v Speaker 4>every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 3>And how do the drugs affect the general like anger problems?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what what have you observed from your anecdotal evidence

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<v Speaker 3>is a relationship between the two.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like if I'm getting too high all the

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<v Speaker 4>time after a bit of that I'll start to get

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<v Speaker 4>a little more irritated with people. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel like the Dad's kind of like numb

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<v Speaker 4>me down from a lot of the extra stimulus. And

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<v Speaker 4>I've be hitting the gym all the time. That helped

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<v Speaker 4>you a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, Great, that's good. Well, uh h, where should we

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<v Speaker 3>go from here? I guess I'll ask this, like what

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<v Speaker 3>and just maybe this is helpful for you to just

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<v Speaker 3>say on here to me, but like what practical steps

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to take moving forward to like improve

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<v Speaker 3>yourself and improve your life and improve these these issues

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<v Speaker 3>that you're having.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, other than therapy, I definitely need to meditate more.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's good, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>That Deely helps a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Meditation is an interesting thing because I don't I I

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<v Speaker 3>don't view meditation as uh and I actually I've been

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<v Speaker 3>very out of like I used to be like, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>let me get ten minutes in when I can, But

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<v Speaker 3>then it becomes like a just like another stupid fucking

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<v Speaker 3>routine thing, right, Like it doesn't actually do anything. The meditation.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole idea of the meditation is creating mindfulness, especially

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<v Speaker 3>when you fucking need it, right, like when you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the car, and when you're pissed off, that's when you

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<v Speaker 3>need it the most, and it should become an excite

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<v Speaker 3>and it should become an exciting thing for you. Similar

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<v Speaker 3>to how you go to the gym and you see

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<v Speaker 3>your progress and you see your body changing and that's

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<v Speaker 3>exciting for you, and that's motivating for you. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing with your brain, right because you have these

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<v Speaker 3>like innate, like inherent first responses to things that are angry,

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<v Speaker 3>like your road range. And the more often that you

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<v Speaker 3>go through the process of okay, you're in your car

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<v Speaker 3>and someone does something that pisses you off, you and

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<v Speaker 3>you are mindful, and you see you can observe that

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<v Speaker 3>you're fucking pissed off, and then you take control of

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<v Speaker 3>that and you willfully silence it and let it simmer down.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time you do that intentionally, it's like lifting a

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<v Speaker 3>weight and it gets a little bit easier and you

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<v Speaker 3>feel good about yourself because you can actually observe that

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<v Speaker 3>you are gaining a mastery over your emotions in the

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<v Speaker 3>same way that when you go to the gym, you're

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<v Speaker 3>you're improving your body. So that's just like that's mindfulness, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like next time you're to that. I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 3>think about that next time that you feel triggered by

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<v Speaker 3>something pissing you off, just take like a second and go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pissed off right now. Let me like take back

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<v Speaker 3>control of my life by not submitting to that emotion

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<v Speaker 3>and by cooling the fuck down. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, you're totally right. That's actually a big part

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<v Speaker 4>of Buddhism is like becoming aware of the problem or

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<v Speaker 4>the suffering in the first place. Yeah, and when you're aware,

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<v Speaker 4>you can kind of like step in and stop it

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<v Speaker 4>or change. And uh so that's why I am trying

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<v Speaker 4>to do. You know, Like breathing has been a big

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<v Speaker 4>part of like keeping myself cool and calm. Like social situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, it's like the one thing we we always

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<v Speaker 4>have to come back to. But I'll be so aware

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes even in those mind states, it's like, I know

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<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't be like that, but it's like I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 4>But I appreciate the words of advice. I don't really

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<v Speaker 4>expect you to have a solution, just something to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>It's cool that you called me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I mean it's uh, it's it sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be okay. It sounds like you're on an

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<v Speaker 3>upward trajectory that will continue upward.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure, I think I'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your name again, John?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we'll call it John.

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<v Speaker 3>John. Any movie recommendations to leave us with?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I'm so happy you asked that because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>such a movie buff.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>So, there's any psychedelics users and some acid in March?

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<v Speaker 4>Jacobs Ladder pretty crazy, it'll put you into an ego death.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I just want saltburn. That bathtub scene was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty crazy. But uh, you know, how about Hereditary?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? Jacob's Ladder, Sulburn, and Hereditary. That's John's hot

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<v Speaker 3>movie list of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Good see.

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<v Speaker 3>Take care John?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't watch The Curse on Acid. It'll freak you out.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, what's your name?

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>My name is?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up? How's life it's going?

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm currently like two months pregnant?

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting? How how do you How does that feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel sick? Is that that's one of the

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 3>pregnant things, is that you feel sick?

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's been like the biggest problem of morning sick.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like literally on three medications. Oh my god, I'm sorry.

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm on three medications where I had to run outside.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not a brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I'm sorry I made a pregnant woman run

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 3>take a phone call. I feel bad. I'm gonna go ahead.

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 3>And I actually I called you because you texted me

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 3>on the thing and you said that, hey, Lyle, I

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 3>wanted to talk about how I unintentionally baby trapped somebody

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>who hates me. Yeah, okay, and this is and you

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 3>also said we're expecting our second kid, so this is

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 3>the second kid. Yeah, okay, go ahead, tell your story.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, I met this person online in like twenty

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>nineteen and I wasn't in a very good living situations.

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>So he invited me to come see him, and I

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>went like at least five hours away from where I

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>lived to go meet this guy, and I ended up

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>moving in with him like full time, literally like two

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>weeks after that, which you know, didn't seem like the

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>best idea, but here we are, but a year into

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that relationship, he really didn't want to be with me,

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and literally, like right after he said that I was pregnant,

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, well shit, because it was

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>way too far along to do anything about it.

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>And so then this baby was so this baby, I

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 3>assume was was not planned.

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>No, I thought that I wasn't fertile, and this person

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:49.479
<v Speaker 1>did too, mostly because he has a medical condition and

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I was told by a doctor that I was infertile.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why you can't trust doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this kid is now three years old, almost, and

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing happened again. We were just like, you know,

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>it took us almost a year to get pregnant with

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that first kid, Like, what's the worst that could happen?

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And then lo and behold the second kid. We were

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>just like, damn, definitely our fault. But he like constantly

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>is just like, yeah, you baby trap and blah blah blah.

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 3>But wait, so I'm confused. So you were dating this Garya.

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 3>You kind of got into this, this this wild thing

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>with this guy that you met online a few years ago,

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 3>and he said he didn't want a relationship with you.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 3>And then right when he said that, you found out

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 3>you were pregnant with the first kid. Yeah, okay, and

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 3>then three years later you're pregnant with another one of

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<v Speaker 3>another kid by the same guy.

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Now, when he said he didn't want a relationship with you.

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 3>I guess what I'm I guess I'm confused to how

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 3>you guys rekindled or what happened after that.

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Basically, I had gotten pregnant. And it's not like he

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, don't go get an abortion, but personally

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the idea. Like I'm okay with other

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>people getting abortions and all that. I'm perfectly fine with that,

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>but personally it just kind of like irks me. I'm

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>just like, ooh, I don't really want to do that.

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>And his family was very happy. He was very happy

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>because he had tried to have kids before and he couldn't.

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of like a bad situation turned

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>into a good situation.

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 3>I guess how old is this guy?

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>When we met? I was seventeen and he was eighteen.

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>He was turning nineteen, okay, and now I'm twenty two

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's twenty four, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And is he still like in the baby's life?

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we we lived together.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh so you live with you live with this guy?

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 3>So when he says he's baby, when he says he's

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 3>you baby trapped him? Is he just joking?

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Well no, because he was trying to break up with

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>me and getting like trying to get me to move out,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and then I had a missed period and I was

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>really sick, and he was like, if you're not pregnant,

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, you gotta leave by this day. And

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>he was like, you got to leave by the end

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of January. And I figured out that I was pregnant

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>in like January first, I think, so that's that's kind

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>of the whole situation. He was like on the step

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of getting me to get the fuck out, and then

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that happened.

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>So you guys are eighteen and you have a baby.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 3>But he says he wants to break up with you,

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 3>and uh, do you guys just not break up? Like

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 3>I guess, I'm confused about whether or not you stayed together.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>We did stay together because I was living with him

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and again, and I said, I was like five hours

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>away from where I grew up, So I had moved

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>five hours away to go be with him, and at

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that point I didn't really have anywhere to go back

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>where I was from. So me being pregnant, he was

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>just like, well, I don't really want you to leave

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>with the baby because I feel like that that wouldn't

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>be great for the kid, and he wanted the kid

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>in his life.

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 3>So and then this and then you're and you're pregnant

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 3>right now? Yeah, and is this kid? Was this kid

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 3>planned or was this another accident?

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>This one was definitely another accident.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I got what is the what's the relationship

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 3>between you and this guy? Because like, are you guys?

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Are you guys together or are you Do you like

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 3>each other? Even if.

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>The relationship still together? We definitely have had a lot

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>of ups and downs having to do with a lot

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>of different things, and you know, me growing up in

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>him growing up kind of helped us come more together.

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>But the easiest way to say it is like he

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely still hates me, Like he does dislike me quite

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a bit, but we get along and you know, we

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of common interest. So it's again, it's

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>like a really weird situation.

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Do you really think this guy that you live with,

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 3>that you're raising a kid with that I guess is

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>your boyfriend? He hates you.

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>We definitely get into it a lot over like pretty

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>stupid things. I had some pretty bad mental issues that

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I had not dealt with when I had moved in

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 1>with him, So I think that's a little bit of it,

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>because I would have these like terrible panic attacks where

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I would lash out and get angry and all that

0:33:58.840 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of fun stuff.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 3>How is it living with him and raising this kid

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 3>with him and dealing with your pregnancy with him? Like,

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 3>are you do you guys have enough of a relationship

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 3>together that's positive enough that you don't feel, uh like

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 3>completely miserable about it.

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I don't feel miserable. He doesn't feel miserable,

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But there's definitely times where he just makes the point of, like,

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, you kind of baby trapping me a little bit,

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like I was trying to trying to move on with

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>my life, but you go, you know, he he loves

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 1>his son and all that.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know if I would. I

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 3>don't know if I would say that you baby trapped him,

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 3>because it does take two people to make a baby. Yeah, hmmm.

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 3>So well, I mean just like a point and simple

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 3>and you know, uh, point and that does that's not

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 3>a word. I don't know why I said point and simple,

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 3>plain and simple? What the fuck is point and simple? Okay?

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 3>So I mean today present, let's let's do this, And

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe you just wanted to come on and tell the story,

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 3>but like, is there any like is is you said

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>you weren't miserable, you said that you're How are you?

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 3>How are you doing in this situation? Like do you

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 3>feel good? Do you feel are you are you happy

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 3>about having the kids? Are you happy about life? Are

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 3>you happy about the are you excited about the future?

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Like how are you? How are you feeling about everything

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 3>that you're this whole saga that you've you've ran us through.

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely happy. There is kind of like a little

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>kicker to the story. You know, when my son, like

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>right before he had turned one, his mom just just

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>to make a long story short, his mom found out

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that her husband was cheating. So they ended up having

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to move back to where they came from, which is

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>like six states away. So I ended up having to

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>go with them and move out of the state that

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I live in. So we've all just kind of been

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>and that like his mom's grandma's house, living in their

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>living room. So I am excited. This is this is

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to explain. I am excited, but we

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>are not in a great living situation and we're trying

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to get out of it. But when that guy had

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.240
<v Speaker 1>cheated on his mom, he gave us an eviction notice,

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.720
<v Speaker 1>so we can't get approved for any apartments in mistake.

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 1>That's like the biggest issue. It's like the only wait,

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>all right.

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Let me get let me, let me, let me, let

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>me understand this real quick. So your is he your boyfriend?

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 3>Do I call him your boyfriend? What do I call him?

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, I would say boyfriends?

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So your boyfriend's mom was dating a guy who

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 3>cheated on her, and so he evicted your boyfriend's mom.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then everyone in the house because it.

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 3>Was his house, and is and is your and your

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>name and your boyfriend's name were on the lease of

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>this house that is owned by the guy that your

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 3>boyfriend's mom was dating.

0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, my well, my boyfriend's name was on the lea,

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>but technically, since we had lived there, he put every

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>single person's name that lived in the house had to

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>be out by a certain date, So then we all

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>ended up moving.

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Is that even Is that legal to just kick something?

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Is that even legal to just evict someone for no reason?

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, he gave us thirty days and I don't even know,

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like if it is legal. Maybe I'm not looking at

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the chat at all because I can't really talk.

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 3>About the chat. Yeah, the twitch chat is not where

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 3>you go to for legal advice. So that's fine, Okay.

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I was I was just gonna say, maybe somebody would

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>know if it's illegal.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 3>No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't at all. Okay, So where

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 3>are you living now?

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>We are still living with his maternal grandparents, so his

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>mom's mom, and she she very much dislikes us. She

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>loves her grandson her way. Yeah, it'll be her great grandson. Actually,

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 1>she loves her great grandson. She actually doesn't know that

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm pregnant with the second kid right now. So we're

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>trying our hardest to move out as soon as possible

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>before telling her.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry you keep running into I'm sorry you keep

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 3>running into all these people who you feel like don't

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 3>like you.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of the people and his family don't

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>specifically like me. There's been times where I've eavesdropped when

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>they've been talking outside and they're just like, oh, she

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 1>ruined his life, blah blah blah. But he again, he

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>just wanted kids because he has like a he has diabetes,

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>so he wasn't specifically considered fertile. They told him that

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 1>he could probably couldn't have kids because of it.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 3>The whole lot. I have never heard of that in mind.

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I've never heard

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 3>of that in my entire life, that diabetes leads to infertility.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like something having to do with like like sperm account.

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>If you don't take care of your diabetes, it makes

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it a lot harder. And he did not take care

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of it when we were living in the other state.

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 3>So what I'm hearing is that, what I'm hearing is

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 3>something about Reese's cups being a good form of birth control.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make note of that, all right. So well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'll just say this, and I'm not just

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:21.720
<v Speaker 3>blowing smoke out of your ass. You seem you seem

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 3>like you, I mean, you seem like you have been

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<v Speaker 3>handling the uh drama of your life pretty well. Like

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<v Speaker 3>in High.

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Spirits, there's been a couple of mental breakdowns and a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of alcoholism in between.

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<v Speaker 3>But so, okay, well let's talk about this. For the alcoholism,

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 3>are you still is that still a thing? Or is

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 3>that kind of no.

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I I had stopped drinking a while back. I was like,

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>this is a completely different story. The last thing that

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I had texted you was about my job. It wasn't

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>specifically about drinking, but I because of my job, I

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>would literally drink every fucking day.

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Like constantly, Yeah, do you have a job? Does he

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:08.439
<v Speaker 3>have a job?

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 2>He has a job.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I do too, but it's kind of up in the

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 1>air right now because there's a lot of people that

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>need help in different parts of the city, and they

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>keep moving me around to different Domino's locations, and it's

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>not specifically the greatest because every year that I've been

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>to is really understaffed. It's sucked up.

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Do you and him have enough financial stability to like

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 3>move out and get a place and raise a kid?

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes? More likely yes them. No, Okay, once we do

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>move out, we won't have his family to help watch

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>our kids. The one of us would be at home

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and one of us would be working, which I assume

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd be the one at home.

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. And is that like findinancially viable for him

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 3>to go work and make enough money to support all

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 3>those people while you take care of the kids. Yeah, Okay,

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>So all right, So that's I mean, that's that's fantastic

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 3>to hear because that's uh, you know, I mean, I

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 3>it's it's hard to find a fucking job that can

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 3>support like a whole ass family, especially if he's only

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 3>twenty four. What's he do for what's he do for work?

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious he works at a fast food burger place.

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's great to hear that you guys are

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 3>doing good financially, do are you? I mean you sound

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 3>like you're in a tough situation, but again, it sounds

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:50.399
<v Speaker 3>like you're handling it pretty well. Like you don't You're

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 3>not sitting here like, oh I feel trapped with this

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 3>guy or I feel trapped with this thing, Like are

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 3>you Are you enjoying being a mom? Are you enjoying

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 3>all that?

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, I'm enjoying all that.

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmmm hmm. Well okay, I mean let me ask

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 3>you this, right and maybe again, like I said, maybe

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 3>you just wanted to call in to tell the story,

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 3>But like, is there any aspect of any of this

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.719
<v Speaker 3>that like you want, like anything else you want to

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 3>talk through or like that you want perspective on or

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 3>like how can I be of Gecko service to you.

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 3>If if if for anything other than just telling the story,

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:31.439
<v Speaker 3>it's okay. If not, it's okay. If you think I'm

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 3>fucking stupid, you don't want to hear what I have

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 3>to say?

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Was not prepared?

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 3>You don't you don't have to be ready. It sounds

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 3>like the answer is no, which is fine because I

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 3>don't know anything about life. But well, all right, you're

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.839
<v Speaker 3>doing okay. Just by the way, can I just say

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 3>something to you because you keep saying, like your boyfriend

0:42:57.960 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 3>if he keeps saying I don't know if he's joking,

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know your guys' relationship and whatever, but

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 3>just for your own sake, does it make you feel

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 3>bad when your boyfriend says you baby trapped him a

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 3>little bit?

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>But I do understand because again he had told me, like,

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, you haven't told us time to get out,

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and then all that happened, so he was definitely trying

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of me, and then he was like,

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:29.760
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, a baby, and then he he still my boyfriend.

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>He gave me a ring after that, and he's like,

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I want both of us to be in

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>this kid's life because he has divorced parents. So that's

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of the biggest part about it about it is

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he just didn't want to ruin that

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>kid's life.

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 3>As you get go, well next, just next time your

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 3>boyfriend tells you that you baby trapped him, let him

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 3>know that it takes two people to make a baby.

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 3>Like just I just don't don't let that make you

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 3>feel like shitty, you know, because you keep telling me

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 3>that everyone in this you run into in this universe

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 3>doesn't like you. But that's just, uh, this is not fair,

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 3>you know. Yeah, well good luck? What uh when's the

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 3>baby you do?

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh? My god, I feel really terrible about this. I

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>already know the gender. It's a girl, right, and my

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>first kid as a boy, and they're two the same

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>exact days, so I actuel like this kid's gonna be

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>born like the same day or around the same day

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>as my son.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Says so much money on birthday parties.

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like he's gonna hold it against me

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of his life. He's gonna be like, oh,

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.919
<v Speaker 1>her birthday was better than mine, her presents were better

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 1>than mine. Like that.

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 3>You keep mentioning all these things that involve people, people

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 3>being upset with you, and.

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope you the anxiety.

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 3>I hope you do that less.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I do too.

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 3>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 3>people of the computer before we go.

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>If you meet somebody online, do not immediately move in

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>with them. That is my best advice.

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 3>This is why we do this podcast so that others

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 3>can share their life experience and help inform the listeners.

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 3>So thank you for sharing your story and ghek bless

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 3>you for a thousand years.

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Gek bless you too. Have a good night. Bye.

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:41.919
<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hey, what's up?

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh, bruh, bro? You like called instantly, Like I.

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Just texted, what's your name? My name? My name is Alex, Alex.

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 3>How old are you Alex?

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm twenty?

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well what's going on? Alex? Would want to talk

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 3>about today?

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I mean, you know, a long time listening here.

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 6>I've been listening to you since since you started basically

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 6>or you should stream my lob was like reddit or whatever.

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 6>M yeah, yeah, this is kind of insane. I'm not

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 6>gonna lila. Everyone says that on the podcast, but it's

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 6>like damn. But yeah, yeah, I've been listening for a

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.399
<v Speaker 6>while and on the podcast. It says philosophy. I don't

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 6>know if you did it on purpose or yeah, it

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 6>says philosophy podcast. And you know, I'm a philosopher technically.

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm still stupid, but I am a philosopher.

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 6>And you know, some of the stuff or some sometimes

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 6>you just chat. I don't know if you know what

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 6>I mean by that, but sometimes you just you just chat. Yeah,

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 6>like uh, sometimes like you say, like, you know, I

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 6>don't want to give advice. And then sometimes it's like

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 6>either like bad philosophy or it's like you're kind of

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 6>sometimes you're spitting. But yeah, that's what I wanted to

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 6>talk about.

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what kind of Uh oh yeah, well yeah, you

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 3>text I called you because you texted in and you

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 3>wanted to say, uh, you said, I'm a philosopher, and

0:46:57.880 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to call you to tell you that you

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 3>don't know what you're talking about.

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe I kind have said it.

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 6>I was, you know, I'm not gonna lie. I was

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 6>trying to say something to you know, to get a call.

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 6>But no, I mean, I mean, no, no disrespect.

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:13.479
<v Speaker 5>Guest.

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Well here you are. You have you have challenged me,

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and therefore I call upon you to explain.

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 6>Okay, yeah, so when I'm listening to the podcast, I

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 6>don't know. Sometimes you talk about like life and death

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 6>and you'll bring up like random philosophers or like yeah,

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 6>you'll just bring up like random philosophers and like you'll

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 6>say their name, you'll say a quote as it's like

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 6>really profound, and sometimes it's not, and I mean like

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 6>no disrespect, like no disrespect or like as a you know,

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 6>I study these.

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 3>I guess I could tell you what I do, well,

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 3>hold on, but I don't. Before you do that, Before

0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 3>you do that, give me an example, give.

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 6>You an example.

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember, like no, no, no, no, no, no,

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 3>no no no. You got to come in hot, you

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 3>got to come in with an example. You were You

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 3>did not come into this challenge prepared, my friend.

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 6>You're right, You're right. I guess, yeah, I should have.

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 6>I should have pulled up some some some examples. But

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 6>there was this one time I do remember you. This

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 6>is like probably like last year, but this guy was

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 6>like going through hard times and you brought up I

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 6>don't remember, you brought up this book from this philosopher,

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 6>like this pop philosopher basically, which by that I mean

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 6>he's you know, like in the nineties, a whole bunch

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:36.800
<v Speaker 6>of like people thought, like you know, they knew stuff,

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 6>and they would just published stuff. And you brought him

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.439
<v Speaker 6>up and I can't remember his name, but I remember

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:42.880
<v Speaker 6>you brought the book and I looked at the book

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 6>and I was just like, this is not this is

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 6>not this is not philosophy.

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, okay, what's what's what's your what's your

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 3>name again? What's your name again? My name is Alex Alex.

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:55.839
<v Speaker 3>If I could, I'd like to quote one of my

0:48:55.840 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 3>favorite philosophers, Plato, who did once say, if you're gonna

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.439
<v Speaker 3>come in hot, you need examples, concrete examples. He did

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 3>say that, Okay, and you need to prove that he

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't say that or else. I'm just gonna believe he did, right.

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean, when you're talking about Plato, like I read Plato,

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 6>I studied Plato, like I just want to know, like

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 6>what example, like you're talking about like Plato Republic, like

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 6>we can talk about like we can talk about philosophy.

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, sure, I think it was Plato who once said, uh,

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 3>he once said, uh, you should eat at a deficit

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 3>of five hundred calories if you want to try to

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 3>lose weight. What else did he say, Oh, Plato, here's

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:51.839
<v Speaker 3>what he said. He said, he said, my uncle works

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 3>at Nintendo, and he told me that if you swim

0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 3>to a certain part in the Peaches Garden and super

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Mario sixty four and you mash a a lot when

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 3>you're in that part, you can unlock Luigi. That's something

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 3>that Plato said. I don't know if you studied the

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Plato's discovery of the unlocking of Luigi and super Mario

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 3>sixty four.

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:17.879
<v Speaker 6>Well, no, I'm not familiar with that.

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're you know what, you know what? Okay, hold on,

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I actually I'm wrong about that. That was Socrates who said,

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.479
<v Speaker 3>who've found I had to unlock Luigi and super Mario

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:26.120
<v Speaker 3>sixty four?

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 6>No, no, you might, yeah you might. You might actually

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:31.480
<v Speaker 6>be talking now, I mean, okay, right, this is this

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 6>is the main reason. And yeah, this is this is

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 6>the main reason I wanted to talk to you, because

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 6>I feel like like maybe it should change the podcast

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 6>on Spotify, at least on Spotify, says h philosophy, But

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:45.800
<v Speaker 6>like anyone could talk like, you know, I mean, anyone

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.399
<v Speaker 6>could say opinions. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they're

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:53.320
<v Speaker 6>I'm sounding like such like a like a like elitist,

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 6>like like asshole right now, I'm trying not to, I promise,

0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 6>but like I don't know, like anyone, like anyone can

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 6>go on Twitter, anyone could do like say this and that.

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 6>You never claimed to be a philosopher, but no I.

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Should I do. I think, you know, if anyone, anyone

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 3>could be a philosopher, what are you talking about? Socrates?

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Socrates is just was just a guy, all right. He

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 3>was a guy and he thought about stuff and he

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<v Speaker 3>said things and they and people were like, oh, the

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<v Speaker 3>things that you're saying are cool, and they thought that

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<v Speaker 3>his things were so cool that he said that you

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<v Speaker 3>can now spend two hundred thousand dollars to go study

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<v Speaker 3>what he said because what he said was that cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't mean that he you know, it's what

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<v Speaker 3>It's not science, you know, I mean, science is like

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<v Speaker 3>there is and there isn't. But philosophy you can totally

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<v Speaker 3>just say.

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<v Speaker 6>Stuff, Yeah, there's a structure to it, you know, like okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Who yeah, but yeah, but who created that structure?

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<v Speaker 1>Who created it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Wait, I actually I have an answer to this, Alex.

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<v Speaker 3>I know who created it? Who some fucking guy, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm some fucking guy too, and you're some fucking guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone listening to this is some fucking guy. So

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<v Speaker 3>they can all go create some fucking whatever, bullshit whatever

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<v Speaker 3>thing too, and there we go.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, yeah, yeah, I guess. I guess I was

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<v Speaker 6>just a little I guess a little like like damn,

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<v Speaker 6>like like like you know, like damn like it's this

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<v Speaker 6>philosophy I don't understand. But I mean, you never did

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<v Speaker 6>claim to be a philosopher, and I know you don't claim.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what. You know what I did, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I didn't. But now I'm going to start.

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<v Speaker 6>You're right, I think you should well thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>This was you know what I'm I gotta say this,

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<v Speaker 3>Alex and this is the word I want to use.

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<v Speaker 3>This conversation was enlightening for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it?

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<v Speaker 3>It was? It was? It reinforced you you can in here.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, uh I I reinforced. I think the idea

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<v Speaker 3>is that that I that I want. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what I'm saying. This is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it? Right? You can just do you think Socrates

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<v Speaker 3>would have had a podcast where he just like said

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<v Speaker 3>ship you know without even like like like what I

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<v Speaker 3>like like sometimes the cool the cool thing about having

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<v Speaker 3>a podcast you can like start a sentence. You can

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<v Speaker 3>just start talking and try like saying a point, and

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<v Speaker 3>then at some point when you realize that you actually

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a point, you can just kind of like, Alex,

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<v Speaker 3>is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 3>people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I mean yes, yes, yeah, I do. I just

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<v Speaker 6>want to say, you know, like peace and love and

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<v Speaker 6>prosperity and thank you ghek. Yeah, I've been listening for

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<v Speaker 6>a while now, and I just I'm always I've tried

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<v Speaker 6>to call him before and I just you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>got in and thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, as Aristotle said, stay stay stoned, bitches.

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<v Speaker 4>The rep get goes on the line taking your phone

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<v Speaker 4>calls every night. The repeat goes doing his ride.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's teaching you Cloud of your life?

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not ready an expert