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Speaker 1: Hello, Hi there, Hi.

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Speaker 2: Is this the therapy?

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Speaker 3: Here go? This is this is therapy? Gecko? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Not in mind? I was just chilling walks in the stream.

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Speaker 3: What's your name? What's your where? What's your home address?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: My name is Ox and I live in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool? You know that song that Chance the Rapper

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Speaker 3: does where he goes hot Atlanta hot water, hot shower. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a great song.

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Speaker 4: And that's a good song.

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Speaker 3: What else do I know about? I used to live.

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Speaker 3: I lived in Atlanta for a couple of months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I lived there. Uh the Gucci Maine, Mexaco.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool. Yeah, it's it's a good it's a fun place.

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Speaker 3: There's the You ever been to the Oh you ever

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Speaker 3: been to the Museum of Coca Cola.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually got sick in the bathroom there one time.

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Speaker 3: Well that sounds like a good place to get sick

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Speaker 3: in the bathroom because they got a lot of seltzer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There were the Varsity.

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Speaker 3: Oh the Varsity. Oh my god, this is we're getting

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Speaker 3: Atlanta specific. But I love I love the Varsity of

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Speaker 3: Varsity fucking rocks. It's uh. If you eat there more

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Speaker 3: than three times in a. I think you can. You

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Speaker 3: can probably only afford to eat their three times in

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Speaker 3: your life, or else you'll just die of Greece. But

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Speaker 3: it's it's good. I mean, give it a give a shot.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean there a lot anyway. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it's I don't want to and I don't wanna isolate

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Speaker 3: our non Atlanta audience with this inside Baseball Talk os,

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Speaker 3: What is it you wanted to to talk about on

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Speaker 3: the on the Gecko thing today?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about the time I got napped

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Speaker 2: and taken on vacations.

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Speaker 3: Who kidnapped you?

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Speaker 2: This guy I was dating who was not very nice?

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Speaker 3: How old were you?

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Speaker 2: I was nineteen?

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Speaker 3: How'd you meet this guy?

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Speaker 2: He was my maths tutor in high school?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, we'll just get the way from here.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: So you met him when you were in high school,

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Speaker 3: and then you got a little bit older and graduated,

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Speaker 3: and then he kidnapped you.

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Speaker 5: We were dating, like when I was still in high school,

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Speaker 5: when he was like twenty street.

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Speaker 3: Okay, why there were where did? I mean? Go ahead,

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Speaker 3: I'll stop asking questions if you want to tell the story.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, okay, So we ended up living together for

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Speaker 5: a couple of years and he just got like more

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Speaker 5: and more horrible to me, and like he wouldn't let

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Speaker 5: me work certain ships at my job because he wouldn't

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Speaker 5: he was home and he didn't want me to be

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Speaker 5: anywhere else and like stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So basically we were living together and he just got

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Speaker 2: more and more horrible to me, and like he would

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Speaker 2: let me work certain shifts at my job and like

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Speaker 2: I couldn't have Like he would go through my phone.

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Speaker 2: He knew all my passwords, he made like my bank

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Speaker 2: account information, and he he was like, let's go on

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Speaker 2: a trip. And I was like, I really don't want

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Speaker 2: to go on a trip. So he like got in

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Speaker 2: my phone, sent him him, sent himself like three thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars out of my bank account, and I was like

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Speaker 2: what the fuck, Like I'm done with this, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: about to go like bye, and he's like, no, Let's

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Speaker 2: go on a trip. And I'm like what He basically

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Speaker 2: like forces me to go on a trip to Colorado?

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Speaker 3: How long were you in Colorado for?

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Speaker 2: For like a week?

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Speaker 3: What was that week?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: It was crazy? Like he so I have a lot

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Speaker 2: of tattoos at the time. I like even though I

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Speaker 2: and he didn't have any, and he was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I want you to pick out a tattoo for me.

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Speaker 2: And he basically like made me stay in the hotel

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Speaker 2: or I thought of something that he agreed to both doing.

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Speaker 2: Like you know how people go to Colorado and smoked weeds.

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Speaker 2: He didn't want to smoke any weed. Like whoves to

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Speaker 2: Colorado doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: I love that. That's the worst That's the worst part

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Speaker 3: of this story to you, is that your your kidnapper

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Speaker 3: didn't want to get high.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, man, he couldn't made it a little more

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Speaker 2: pleas that.

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Speaker 3: Geez, oh my god. Uh so this was two years ago.

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Speaker 2: This is yeah, it was twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck? What what happened?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: What happened with this guy? How'd you get away from him?

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Speaker 2: We landed on like we came back to where we were,

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Speaker 2: and we drove back at night, and I took all

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Speaker 2: my shit and I went to my parents' house. And

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Speaker 2: my parents like owned the house that we were living

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Speaker 2: in at the time, so they just like it was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: get your shit, get out, like trespassing the property. Don't

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Speaker 2: contact us anymore. I had to get I couldn't get

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Speaker 2: a restraining order in the town that we lived in

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Speaker 2: because the town that I lived in, that the house

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, your parents owned a place that you

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Speaker 3: and that guy were living at together. Guys, how did

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Speaker 3: you did your parents know about like all this stuff?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like when it happened, like when it was

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Speaker 2: going on, Like no, they just knew I was like

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Speaker 2: going on a trip, like a spontaneous trip, but they

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Speaker 2: didn't know, like about all the crazy like abuse stuff

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Speaker 2: that really just knew and they didn't want to do

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Me and my mom had a really complicated relationship.

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Speaker 3: So okay, So and this was two years ago. This

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Speaker 3: guy doesn't see and still contact you or anything? Does he?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I haven't heard from him, like since all

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Speaker 2: that happened. Thank god?

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Speaker 3: You know, Well that's cool. Are you? Uh have you

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Speaker 3: have you entered into a more stable relationship since then,

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Speaker 3: or or or rather even found stability within yourself? Like

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Speaker 3: how how have you uh healed so to speak? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I got diagnosed with PTSD because

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Speaker 2: of like that relationship, which sucks. But I mean I've

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Speaker 2: just taken each day at a time and being nice

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Speaker 2: to myself and you know, learning how to be normal.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: He kidnapped you, took you to Denver and didn't even

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Speaker 3: didn't even get you any dabs.

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Speaker 2: No, right, it was in May too. Seven ten?

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Speaker 3: What's seven ten?

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Speaker 2: It's the dab day?

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Speaker 3: Hold on, I have no I had no idea there

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Speaker 3: was four twenty four dabs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you didn't know about dab day seven ten? Man,

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Speaker 2: what is.

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Speaker 3: How did you get? How did how did we get?

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Speaker 3: Seven ten?

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Speaker 2: Is that like d he flipped it backwards? That says

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Speaker 2: like dab or something? Hey, and I can't ask my boyfriend.

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Speaker 3: Who does Oh seven ten upside down as oil.

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Speaker 2: Oil that's what it is? Yeah, yeah, there it is.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you have a new boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah, he's crazy, but he's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Well hold on, now, I what's crazy you mean? Because

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Speaker 3: he's like I feel like your bar. I feel like

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Speaker 3: the bar for crazy is now pretty high.

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Speaker 2: He just like builds crazy shit all the time. I'm

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Speaker 2: in My house was just full of like random objects

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Speaker 2: that are like right now, my house is filled with

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Speaker 2: like old Naruto comics from two thousand and eight, because

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Speaker 2: apparently he's like flipping him on either there was like

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Speaker 2: a whole kill in my backyard.

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Speaker 3: I love Naruto comic book collector guy way better than

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Speaker 3: a creepy math teacher. Guy's significantly better kind of crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, how'd you guys meet?

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Speaker 2: I snuck into a bar when I was like nineteen

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Speaker 2: and we were talking, me and my friend, who was

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Speaker 2: go get like a procedure done, and this is like

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Speaker 2: And we were like at a bar just hanging out

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Speaker 2: and that we that I have snuck into, and there

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Speaker 2: two other friends with him, And then me and my

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Speaker 2: friend started talking about doing dabs and they're like, yo,

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Speaker 2: you want to come do dabs with us? And we're

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Speaker 2: like hell yeah, And so we just went to the

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Speaker 3: Is weird? Like is that connect you to people. You're like,

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Speaker 3: if somebody is really like it? Yeah, are you high

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Speaker 3: right now? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hitting the dab pen. I was just smoking

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Speaker 2: the bong and walking in the living room watching the stream.

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Speaker 3: That's cool. Well, all right, so how long have you

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Speaker 3: been dating the Naruto guy for?

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Speaker 2: Like almost it'll be three years in November. I think

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm bad at math.

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Speaker 3: That's cool. M Well, are you feeling good about life

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Speaker 3: in general? It sounds like everything's going okay?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love life, man. I'm happy to be

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Speaker 2: here finally. You know, it's not as bad as it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you sound high. I never knew about seven ten.

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Speaker 3: I gotta do. I gotta I haven't. I've said this

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Speaker 3: eight thousand times on this fucking thing, but I've never

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Speaker 3: done never. I haven't done like real dabs in a while.

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Speaker 3: I do the pen, but like I haven't done the

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Speaker 3: whole thing with the torch and the booger.

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Speaker 2: Oh really? While, Yeah, when you come to Atlanta, I

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Speaker 2: can heck you up with that?

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Speaker 3: Or isn't it legal? Do I need a secret hookup?

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Speaker 3: Or is it is it legal?

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Speaker 2: It's not legal here, unfortunately, unless you want like the

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Speaker 2: thhd A, but I mean like it's not as a

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Speaker 1: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, thanks for sharing this story about uh the

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Speaker 3: I mean this genuine me thank you for sharing this

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Speaker 3: story about the worst thing that's ever happened to you.

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Speaker 3: I hope that's the worst thing that's ever happened to you.

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Speaker 3: I don't mean that as in I hope that you

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Speaker 3: don't have you know what I'm trying to say. I

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Speaker 3: hope that you don't have a second worst thing that

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Speaker 3: you're holding back, that that's the worst, that God didn't

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Speaker 3: get worse.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Lyle.

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Speaker 3: Of course, is there anything else you want to say

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Speaker 3: to the people of the computer before we go, or

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Speaker 3: or you, or any other aspect of any of this

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Speaker 3: stuff for life in general that you wanted to talk

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Speaker 3: about or anything?

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Speaker 2: Mm? Be nice, love yourself, love everybody, and get nation.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Having the rest of the night

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Speaker 3: you too, Lyle, Love you. Oh man? What a side hustle?

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Speaker 3: I collecting Naruto comics. That's that's that's the guy that's

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Speaker 3: that's hot Lana right there, A guy who deals dabs

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought I got rid of a lot of

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Speaker 3: And how do the drugs affect the general like anger problems?

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Speaker 4: Ah, other than therapy, I definitely need to meditate more.

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Speaker 3: Every time you do that intentionally, it's like lifting a

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Speaker 3: Like next time you're to that. I mean, I would

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you're totally right. That's actually a big part

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Speaker 4: sometimes even in those mind states, it's like, I know

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00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be like that, but it's like I don't care.

441
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: Mhm.

442
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: But I appreciate the words of advice. I don't really

443
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 4: expect you to have a solution, just something to talk about.

444
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 4: It's cool that you called me.

445
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it's uh, it's it sounds like

446
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna be okay. It sounds like you're on an

447
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: upward trajectory that will continue upward.

448
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I think I'll be okay.

449
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 3: What's your name again, John?

450
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll call it John.

451
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: John. Any movie recommendations to leave us with?

452
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm so happy you asked that because I'm

453
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: such a movie buff.

454
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

455
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: So, there's any psychedelics users and some acid in March?

456
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 4: Jacobs Ladder pretty crazy, it'll put you into an ego death.

457
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 4: I guess I just want saltburn. That bathtub scene was

458
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: pretty crazy. But uh, you know, how about Hereditary?

459
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: All right? Jacob's Ladder, Sulburn, and Hereditary. That's John's hot

460
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 3: movie list of twenty twenty four.

461
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 4: Good see.

462
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: Take care John?

463
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: Thank you.

464
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 3: Don't watch The Curse on Acid. It'll freak you out.

465
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: Hello.

466
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: Hi, what's your name?

467
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: My name is?

468
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: What's up? How's life it's going?

469
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm currently like two months pregnant?

470
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: Interesting? How how do you How does that feel?

471
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: Do you?

472
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 3: Do you feel sick? Is that that's one of the

473
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: pregnant things, is that you feel sick?

474
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's been like the biggest problem of morning sick.

475
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm like literally on three medications. Oh my god, I'm sorry.

476
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm on three medications where I had to run outside.

477
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: So I'm not a brother.

478
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm sorry I made a pregnant woman run

479
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 3: take a phone call. I feel bad. I'm gonna go ahead.

480
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: And I actually I called you because you texted me

481
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 3: on the thing and you said that, hey, Lyle, I

482
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: wanted to talk about how I unintentionally baby trapped somebody

483
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: who hates me. Yeah, okay, and this is and you

484
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: also said we're expecting our second kid, so this is

485
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: the second kid. Yeah, okay, go ahead, tell your story.

486
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: So basically, I met this person online in like twenty

487
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: nineteen and I wasn't in a very good living situations.

488
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: So he invited me to come see him, and I

489
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: went like at least five hours away from where I

490
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: lived to go meet this guy, and I ended up

491
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: moving in with him like full time, literally like two

492
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: weeks after that, which you know, didn't seem like the

493
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: best idea, but here we are, but a year into

494
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: that relationship, he really didn't want to be with me,

495
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: and literally, like right after he said that I was pregnant,

496
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: and I was just like, well shit, because it was

497
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: way too far along to do anything about it.

498
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: And so then this baby was so this baby, I

499
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: assume was was not planned.

500
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: No, I thought that I wasn't fertile, and this person

501
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: did too, mostly because he has a medical condition and

502
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: I was told by a doctor that I was infertile.

503
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: That's why you can't trust doctors.

504
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this kid is now three years old, almost, and

505
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: the same thing happened again. We were just like, you know,

506
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: it took us almost a year to get pregnant with

507
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: that first kid, Like, what's the worst that could happen?

508
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: And then lo and behold the second kid. We were

509
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: just like, damn, definitely our fault. But he like constantly

510
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: is just like, yeah, you baby trap and blah blah blah.

511
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: But wait, so I'm confused. So you were dating this Garya.

512
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: You kind of got into this, this this wild thing

513
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: with this guy that you met online a few years ago,

514
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: and he said he didn't want a relationship with you.

515
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: And then right when he said that, you found out

516
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: you were pregnant with the first kid. Yeah, okay, and

517
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: then three years later you're pregnant with another one of

518
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: another kid by the same guy.

519
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

520
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: Now, when he said he didn't want a relationship with you.

521
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm I guess I'm confused to how

522
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: you guys rekindled or what happened after that.

523
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: Basically, I had gotten pregnant. And it's not like he

524
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, don't go get an abortion, but personally

525
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: I don't like the idea. Like I'm okay with other

526
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: people getting abortions and all that. I'm perfectly fine with that,

527
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: but personally it just kind of like irks me. I'm

528
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: just like, ooh, I don't really want to do that.

529
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: And his family was very happy. He was very happy

530
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: because he had tried to have kids before and he couldn't.

531
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: So it was kind of like a bad situation turned

532
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: into a good situation.

533
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: I guess how old is this guy?

534
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: When we met? I was seventeen and he was eighteen.

535
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: He was turning nineteen, okay, and now I'm twenty two

536
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: and he's twenty four, all.

537
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: Right, And is he still like in the baby's life?

538
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we lived together.

539
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: Oh so you live with you live with this guy?

540
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

541
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: So when he says he's baby, when he says he's

542
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: you baby trapped him? Is he just joking?

543
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: Well no, because he was trying to break up with

544
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: me and getting like trying to get me to move out,

545
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: and then I had a missed period and I was

546
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: really sick, and he was like, if you're not pregnant,

547
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, you gotta leave by this day. And

548
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: he was like, you got to leave by the end

549
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: of January. And I figured out that I was pregnant

550
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: in like January first, I think, so that's that's kind

551
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: of the whole situation. He was like on the step

552
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: of getting me to get the fuck out, and then

553
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: that happened.

554
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: So you guys are eighteen and you have a baby.

555
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: But he says he wants to break up with you,

556
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: and uh, do you guys just not break up? Like

557
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: I guess, I'm confused about whether or not you stayed together.

558
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: We did stay together because I was living with him

559
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: and again, and I said, I was like five hours

560
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: away from where I grew up, So I had moved

561
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: five hours away to go be with him, and at

562
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: that point I didn't really have anywhere to go back

563
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: where I was from. So me being pregnant, he was

564
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: just like, well, I don't really want you to leave

565
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: with the baby because I feel like that that wouldn't

566
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: be great for the kid, and he wanted the kid

567
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: in his life.

568
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: So and then this and then you're and you're pregnant

569
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: right now? Yeah, and is this kid? Was this kid

570
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: planned or was this another accident?

571
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: This one was definitely another accident.

572
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So I got what is the what's the relationship

573
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: between you and this guy? Because like, are you guys?

574
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: Are you guys together or are you Do you like

575
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: each other? Even if.

576
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: The relationship still together? We definitely have had a lot

577
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: of ups and downs having to do with a lot

578
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: of different things, and you know, me growing up in

579
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: him growing up kind of helped us come more together.

580
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: But the easiest way to say it is like he

581
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: definitely still hates me, Like he does dislike me quite

582
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: a bit, but we get along and you know, we

583
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of common interest. So it's again, it's

584
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: like a really weird situation.

585
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: Do you really think this guy that you live with,

586
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: that you're raising a kid with that I guess is

587
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: your boyfriend? He hates you.

588
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: We definitely get into it a lot over like pretty

589
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: stupid things. I had some pretty bad mental issues that

590
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: I had not dealt with when I had moved in

591
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: with him, So I think that's a little bit of it,

592
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: because I would have these like terrible panic attacks where

593
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: I would lash out and get angry and all that

594
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: kind of fun stuff.

595
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: How is it living with him and raising this kid

596
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: with him and dealing with your pregnancy with him? Like,

597
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: are you do you guys have enough of a relationship

598
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: together that's positive enough that you don't feel, uh like

599
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 3: completely miserable about it.

600
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't feel miserable. He doesn't feel miserable,

601
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: But there's definitely times where he just makes the point of, like,

602
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of baby trapping me a little bit,

603
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: like I was trying to trying to move on with

604
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: my life, but you go, you know, he he loves

605
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: his son and all that.

606
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if I would. I

607
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: don't know if I would say that you baby trapped him,

608
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: because it does take two people to make a baby. Yeah, hmmm.

609
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: So well, I mean just like a point and simple

610
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: and you know, uh, point and that does that's not

611
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: a word. I don't know why I said point and simple,

612
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: plain and simple? What the fuck is point and simple? Okay?

613
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: So I mean today present, let's let's do this, And

614
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: maybe you just wanted to come on and tell the story,

615
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: but like, is there any like is is you said

616
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: you weren't miserable, you said that you're How are you?

617
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: How are you doing in this situation? Like do you

618
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: feel good? Do you feel are you are you happy

619
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: about having the kids? Are you happy about life? Are

620
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 3: you happy about the are you excited about the future?

621
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: Like how are you? How are you feeling about everything

622
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: that you're this whole saga that you've you've ran us through.

623
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm definitely happy. There is kind of like a little

624
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: kicker to the story. You know, when my son, like

625
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: right before he had turned one, his mom just just

626
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: to make a long story short, his mom found out

627
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: that her husband was cheating. So they ended up having

628
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: to move back to where they came from, which is

629
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: like six states away. So I ended up having to

630
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: go with them and move out of the state that

631
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: I live in. So we've all just kind of been

632
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: and that like his mom's grandma's house, living in their

633
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: living room. So I am excited. This is this is

634
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to explain. I am excited, but we

635
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: are not in a great living situation and we're trying

636
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: to get out of it. But when that guy had

637
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: cheated on his mom, he gave us an eviction notice,

638
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: so we can't get approved for any apartments in mistake.

639
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: That's like the biggest issue. It's like the only wait,

640
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: all right.

641
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: Let me get let me, let me, let me, let

642
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: me understand this real quick. So your is he your boyfriend?

643
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: Do I call him your boyfriend? What do I call him?

644
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I would say boyfriends?

645
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: Okay, So your boyfriend's mom was dating a guy who

646
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: cheated on her, and so he evicted your boyfriend's mom.

647
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then everyone in the house because it.

648
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: Was his house, and is and is your and your

649
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: name and your boyfriend's name were on the lease of

650
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: this house that is owned by the guy that your

651
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: boyfriend's mom was dating.

652
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: Yes, my well, my boyfriend's name was on the lea,

653
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: but technically, since we had lived there, he put every

654
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: single person's name that lived in the house had to

655
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: be out by a certain date, So then we all

656
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: ended up moving.

657
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: Is that even Is that legal to just kick something?

658
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: Is that even legal to just evict someone for no reason?

659
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Well, he gave us thirty days and I don't even know,

660
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: like if it is legal. Maybe I'm not looking at

661
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: the chat at all because I can't really talk.

662
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: About the chat. Yeah, the twitch chat is not where

663
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: you go to for legal advice. So that's fine, Okay.

664
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Speaker 1: I was I was just gonna say, maybe somebody would

665
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: know if it's illegal.

666
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't at all. Okay, So where

667
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: are you living now?

668
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: We are still living with his maternal grandparents, so his

669
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: mom's mom, and she she very much dislikes us. She

670
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: loves her grandson her way. Yeah, it'll be her great grandson. Actually,

671
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: she loves her great grandson. She actually doesn't know that

672
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant with the second kid right now. So we're

673
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: trying our hardest to move out as soon as possible

674
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: before telling her.

675
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you keep running into I'm sorry you keep

676
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: running into all these people who you feel like don't

677
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: like you.

678
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the people and his family don't

679
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: specifically like me. There's been times where I've eavesdropped when

680
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: they've been talking outside and they're just like, oh, she

681
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: ruined his life, blah blah blah. But he again, he

682
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: just wanted kids because he has like a he has diabetes,

683
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: so he wasn't specifically considered fertile. They told him that

684
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: he could probably couldn't have kids because of it.

685
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: The whole lot. I have never heard of that in mind.

686
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I've never heard

687
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: of that in my entire life, that diabetes leads to infertility.

688
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: It's like something having to do with like like sperm account.

689
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: If you don't take care of your diabetes, it makes

690
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: it a lot harder. And he did not take care

691
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: of it when we were living in the other state.

692
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: So what I'm hearing is that, what I'm hearing is

693
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: something about Reese's cups being a good form of birth control.

694
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make note of that, all right. So well, yeah,

695
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll just say this, and I'm not just

696
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 3: blowing smoke out of your ass. You seem you seem

697
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: like you, I mean, you seem like you have been

698
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: handling the uh drama of your life pretty well. Like

699
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: in High.

700
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: Spirits, there's been a couple of mental breakdowns and a

701
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: little bit of alcoholism in between.

702
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: But so, okay, well let's talk about this. For the alcoholism,

703
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: are you still is that still a thing? Or is

704
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: that kind of no.

705
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: I I had stopped drinking a while back. I was like,

706
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: this is a completely different story. The last thing that

707
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: I had texted you was about my job. It wasn't

708
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: specifically about drinking, but I because of my job, I

709
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: would literally drink every fucking day.

710
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: Like constantly, Yeah, do you have a job? Does he

711
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 3: have a job?

712
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: He has a job.

713
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: I do too, but it's kind of up in the

714
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: air right now because there's a lot of people that

715
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: need help in different parts of the city, and they

716
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: keep moving me around to different Domino's locations, and it's

717
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: not specifically the greatest because every year that I've been

718
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: to is really understaffed. It's sucked up.

719
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: Do you and him have enough financial stability to like

720
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: move out and get a place and raise a kid?

721
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: Yes? More likely yes them. No, Okay, once we do

722
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: move out, we won't have his family to help watch

723
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: our kids. The one of us would be at home

724
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: and one of us would be working, which I assume

725
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: I'd be the one at home.

726
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And is that like findinancially viable for him

727
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: to go work and make enough money to support all

728
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: those people while you take care of the kids. Yeah, Okay,

729
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: So all right, So that's I mean, that's that's fantastic

730
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: to hear because that's uh, you know, I mean, I

731
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to find a fucking job that can

732
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: support like a whole ass family, especially if he's only

733
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: twenty four. What's he do for what's he do for work?

734
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm curious he works at a fast food burger place.

735
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that's great to hear that you guys are

736
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: doing good financially, do are you? I mean you sound

737
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: like you're in a tough situation, but again, it sounds

738
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 3: like you're handling it pretty well. Like you don't You're

739
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: not sitting here like, oh I feel trapped with this

740
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: guy or I feel trapped with this thing, Like are

741
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: you Are you enjoying being a mom? Are you enjoying

742
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: all that?

743
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I'm enjoying all that.

744
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm hmm. Well okay, I mean let me ask

745
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: you this, right and maybe again, like I said, maybe

746
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 3: you just wanted to call in to tell the story,

747
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: But like, is there any aspect of any of this

748
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: that like you want, like anything else you want to

749
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: talk through or like that you want perspective on or

750
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: like how can I be of Gecko service to you.

751
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: If if if for anything other than just telling the story,

752
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 3: it's okay. If not, it's okay. If you think I'm

753
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: fucking stupid, you don't want to hear what I have

754
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: to say?

755
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: Was not prepared?

756
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: You don't you don't have to be ready. It sounds

757
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: like the answer is no, which is fine because I

758
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: don't know anything about life. But well, all right, you're

759
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: doing okay. Just by the way, can I just say

760
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: something to you because you keep saying, like your boyfriend

761
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: if he keeps saying I don't know if he's joking,

762
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: and I don't know your guys' relationship and whatever, but

763
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: just for your own sake, does it make you feel

764
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: bad when your boyfriend says you baby trapped him a

765
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: little bit?

766
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: But I do understand because again he had told me, like,

767
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, you haven't told us time to get out,

768
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: and then all that happened, so he was definitely trying

769
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: to get rid of me, and then he was like,

770
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: oh shit, a baby, and then he he still my boyfriend.

771
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: He gave me a ring after that, and he's like,

772
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, I want both of us to be in

773
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: this kid's life because he has divorced parents. So that's

774
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: kind of the biggest part about it about it is

775
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: I feel like he just didn't want to ruin that

776
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: kid's life.

777
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: As you get go, well next, just next time your

778
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: boyfriend tells you that you baby trapped him, let him

779
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: know that it takes two people to make a baby.

780
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: Like just I just don't don't let that make you

781
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: feel like shitty, you know, because you keep telling me

782
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: that everyone in this you run into in this universe

783
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: doesn't like you. But that's just, uh, this is not fair,

784
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, well good luck? What uh when's the

785
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: baby you do?

786
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Oh? My god, I feel really terrible about this. I

787
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: already know the gender. It's a girl, right, and my

788
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: first kid as a boy, and they're two the same

789
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: exact days, so I actuel like this kid's gonna be

790
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: born like the same day or around the same day

791
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: as my son.

792
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: Says so much money on birthday parties.

793
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like he's gonna hold it against me

794
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. He's gonna be like, oh,

795
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: her birthday was better than mine, her presents were better

796
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: than mine. Like that.

797
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: You keep mentioning all these things that involve people, people

798
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 3: being upset with you, and.

799
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: I hope you the anxiety.

800
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: I hope you do that less.

801
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I do too.

802
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say to the

803
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: people of the computer before we go.

804
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: If you meet somebody online, do not immediately move in

805
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: with them. That is my best advice.

806
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: This is why we do this podcast so that others

807
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: can share their life experience and help inform the listeners.

808
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: So thank you for sharing your story and ghek bless

809
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: you for a thousand years.

810
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: Gek bless you too. Have a good night. Bye.

811
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, what's up?

812
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, bruh, bro? You like called instantly, Like I.

813
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: Just texted, what's your name? My name? My name is Alex, Alex.

814
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: How old are you Alex?

815
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 6: I'm twenty?

816
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: Okay, Well what's going on? Alex? Would want to talk

817
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: about today?

818
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, you know, a long time listening here.

819
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 6: I've been listening to you since since you started basically

820
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 6: or you should stream my lob was like reddit or whatever.

821
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 6: M yeah, yeah, this is kind of insane. I'm not

822
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 6: gonna lila. Everyone says that on the podcast, but it's

823
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 6: like damn. But yeah, yeah, I've been listening for a

824
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 6: while and on the podcast. It says philosophy. I don't

825
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 6: know if you did it on purpose or yeah, it

826
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 6: says philosophy podcast. And you know, I'm a philosopher technically.

827
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm still stupid, but I am a philosopher.

828
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 6: And you know, some of the stuff or some sometimes

829
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 6: you just chat. I don't know if you know what

830
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 6: I mean by that, but sometimes you just you just chat. Yeah,

831
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 6: like uh, sometimes like you say, like, you know, I

832
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 6: don't want to give advice. And then sometimes it's like

833
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 6: either like bad philosophy or it's like you're kind of

834
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 6: sometimes you're spitting. But yeah, that's what I wanted to

835
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 6: talk about.

836
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, what kind of Uh oh yeah, well yeah, you

837
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: text I called you because you texted in and you

838
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: wanted to say, uh, you said, I'm a philosopher, and

839
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: I wanted to call you to tell you that you

840
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about.

841
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I kind have said it.

842
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 6: I was, you know, I'm not gonna lie. I was

843
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 6: trying to say something to you know, to get a call.

844
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 6: But no, I mean, I mean, no, no disrespect.

845
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 5: Guest.

846
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: Well here you are. You have you have challenged me,

847
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: and therefore I call upon you to explain.

848
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, so when I'm listening to the podcast, I

849
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 6: don't know. Sometimes you talk about like life and death

850
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 6: and you'll bring up like random philosophers or like yeah,

851
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 6: you'll just bring up like random philosophers and like you'll

852
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 6: say their name, you'll say a quote as it's like

853
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 6: really profound, and sometimes it's not, and I mean like

854
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 6: no disrespect, like no disrespect or like as a you know,

855
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 6: I study these.

856
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 3: I guess I could tell you what I do, well,

857
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: hold on, but I don't. Before you do that, Before

858
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: you do that, give me an example, give.

859
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 6: You an example.

860
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: I can't remember, like no, no, no, no, no, no,

861
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: no no no. You got to come in hot, you

862
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: got to come in with an example. You were You

863
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: did not come into this challenge prepared, my friend.

864
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 6: You're right, You're right. I guess, yeah, I should have.

865
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 6: I should have pulled up some some some examples. But

866
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 6: there was this one time I do remember you. This

867
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 6: is like probably like last year, but this guy was

868
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 6: like going through hard times and you brought up I

869
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 6: don't remember, you brought up this book from this philosopher,

870
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 6: like this pop philosopher basically, which by that I mean

871
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 6: he's you know, like in the nineties, a whole bunch

872
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 6: of like people thought, like you know, they knew stuff,

873
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 6: and they would just published stuff. And you brought him

874
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 6: up and I can't remember his name, but I remember

875
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 6: you brought the book and I looked at the book

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Speaker 6: and I was just like, this is not this is

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Speaker 6: not this is not philosophy.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, okay, what's what's what's your what's your

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Speaker 3: name again? What's your name again? My name is Alex Alex.

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Speaker 3: If I could, I'd like to quote one of my

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Speaker 3: favorite philosophers, Plato, who did once say, if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: come in hot, you need examples, concrete examples. He did

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Speaker 3: say that, Okay, and you need to prove that he

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Speaker 3: didn't say that or else. I'm just gonna believe he did, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, when you're talking about Plato, like I read Plato,

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Speaker 6: I studied Plato, like I just want to know, like

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Speaker 6: what example, like you're talking about like Plato Republic, like

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Speaker 6: we can talk about like we can talk about philosophy.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, sure, I think it was Plato who once said, uh,

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Speaker 3: he once said, uh, you should eat at a deficit

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Speaker 3: of five hundred calories if you want to try to

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Speaker 3: lose weight. What else did he say, Oh, Plato, here's

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Speaker 3: what he said. He said, he said, my uncle works

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Speaker 3: at Nintendo, and he told me that if you swim

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Speaker 3: to a certain part in the Peaches Garden and super

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Speaker 3: Mario sixty four and you mash a a lot when

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Speaker 3: you're in that part, you can unlock Luigi. That's something

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Speaker 3: that Plato said. I don't know if you studied the

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Speaker 3: Plato's discovery of the unlocking of Luigi and super Mario

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Speaker 3: sixty four.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, I'm not familiar with that.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you're you know what, you know what? Okay, hold on,

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Speaker 3: I actually I'm wrong about that. That was Socrates who said,

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Speaker 3: who've found I had to unlock Luigi and super Mario

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Speaker 3: sixty four?

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Speaker 6: No, no, you might, yeah you might. You might actually

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Speaker 6: be talking now, I mean, okay, right, this is this

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Speaker 6: is the main reason. And yeah, this is this is

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Speaker 6: the main reason I wanted to talk to you, because

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Speaker 6: I feel like like maybe it should change the podcast

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Speaker 6: on Spotify, at least on Spotify, says h philosophy, But

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Speaker 6: like anyone could talk like, you know, I mean, anyone

913
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Speaker 6: could say opinions. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they're

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Speaker 6: I'm sounding like such like a like a like elitist,

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Speaker 6: like like asshole right now, I'm trying not to, I promise,

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Speaker 6: but like I don't know, like anyone, like anyone can

917
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Speaker 6: go on Twitter, anyone could do like say this and that.

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Speaker 6: You never claimed to be a philosopher, but no I.

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Speaker 3: Should I do. I think, you know, if anyone, anyone

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Speaker 3: could be a philosopher, what are you talking about? Socrates?

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Speaker 3: Socrates is just was just a guy, all right. He

922
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Speaker 3: was a guy and he thought about stuff and he

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Speaker 3: said things and they and people were like, oh, the

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Speaker 3: things that you're saying are cool, and they thought that

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Speaker 3: his things were so cool that he said that you

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Speaker 3: can now spend two hundred thousand dollars to go study

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Speaker 3: what he said because what he said was that cool.

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that he you know, it's what

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Speaker 3: It's not science, you know, I mean, science is like

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Speaker 3: there is and there isn't. But philosophy you can totally

931
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Speaker 3: just say.

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Speaker 6: Stuff, Yeah, there's a structure to it, you know, like okay.

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Speaker 3: Who yeah, but yeah, but who created that structure?

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Speaker 1: Who created it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Wait, I actually I have an answer to this, Alex.

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Speaker 3: I know who created it? Who some fucking guy, and

937
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Speaker 3: I'm some fucking guy too, and you're some fucking guy,

938
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Speaker 3: and everyone listening to this is some fucking guy. So

939
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Speaker 3: they can all go create some fucking whatever, bullshit whatever

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Speaker 3: thing too, and there we go.

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Speaker 6: You know, yeah, yeah, I guess. I guess I was

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Speaker 6: just a little I guess a little like like damn,

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Speaker 6: like like like you know, like damn like it's this

944
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Speaker 6: philosophy I don't understand. But I mean, you never did

945
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Speaker 6: claim to be a philosopher, and I know you don't claim.

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Speaker 3: You know what. You know what I did, you know

947
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Speaker 3: what I didn't. But now I'm going to start.

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Speaker 6: You're right, I think you should well thank you.

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Speaker 3: This was you know what I'm I gotta say this,

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Speaker 3: Alex and this is the word I want to use.

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Speaker 3: This conversation was enlightening for me?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 3: It was? It was? It reinforced you you can in here.

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Speaker 3: I think, uh I I reinforced. I think the idea

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Speaker 3: is that that I that I want. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'm saying. This is this?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Right? You can just do you think Socrates

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Speaker 3: would have had a podcast where he just like said

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Speaker 3: ship you know without even like like like what I

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Speaker 3: like like sometimes the cool the cool thing about having

961
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Speaker 3: a podcast you can like start a sentence. You can

962
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Speaker 3: just start talking and try like saying a point, and

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Speaker 3: then at some point when you realize that you actually

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Speaker 3: don't have a point, you can just kind of like, Alex,

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Speaker 3: is there anything else you want to say to the

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Speaker 3: people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 6: No, I mean yes, yes, yeah, I do. I just

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Speaker 6: want to say, you know, like peace and love and

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Speaker 6: prosperity and thank you ghek. Yeah, I've been listening for

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Speaker 6: a while now, and I just I'm always I've tried

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Speaker 6: to call him before and I just you know, I

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Speaker 6: got in and thank you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, as Aristotle said, stay stay stoned, bitches.

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Speaker 4: The rep get goes on the line taking your phone

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Speaker 4: calls every night. The repeat goes doing his ride.

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Speaker 3: Who's teaching you Cloud of your life?

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Speaker 1: But he's not ready an expert