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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week and Beyond Contact,

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Speaker 3: we'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of

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Speaker 3: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from

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Speaker 3: the newest cases as we talked with the top experts.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and today

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be speaking with Mark Dantonio. Mark has

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Speaker 4: a degree in astronomy and is the MOUF on Chief

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Speaker 4: photo video Analyst. He is also an expert video analyst

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Speaker 4: on the TV show The Proof Is Out There. In addition,

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Speaker 4: Mark is the host and creator of the popular Skytour

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Speaker 4: live stream with Mark D'Antonio. Hey, Mark, how you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm terrific. I got this new show now on the

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Speaker 4: Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm very excited

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Speaker 4: about it and things are happening.

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Speaker 5: I love it, man, I really love it. I'm so

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Speaker 5: happy for you and for Contact. And I have to say,

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Speaker 5: you know, since attending Contact, I mean you invited me

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Speaker 5: for the first time I think it was last year,

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Speaker 5: and since then, I'm telling you, all kinds of opportunities

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Speaker 5: have come a bit and us it's really come to

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Speaker 5: be for me, probably the quintessential conference on this topic

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Speaker 5: in the entire planet, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think. So that's our goal. We're trying to you know,

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Speaker 4: this is a very mission driven thing for Gordon and I.

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Speaker 4: So we try to get the word out about this,

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Speaker 4: and I try to expose people maybe outside our community,

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Speaker 4: to people like yourself who have a very rational look

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Speaker 4: at this, you know, Mark. For me, I don't like

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Speaker 4: how people dismiss the UFO subject out of hand without

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Speaker 4: looking into the data. But equally frustrating for me is

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Speaker 4: that's a UFO et craft and aliens are on it,

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Speaker 4: or aliens built that, or aliens did this right. You know,

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Speaker 4: you're studying all these videos of anomalous objects. What percentage

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Speaker 4: of those that you've looked at do you feel you're

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Speaker 5: See? Unfortunately, this is where people get, you know, jaded

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Speaker 5: extraordinary way. Cameras see things. Your cell phone camera, you know,

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Speaker 4: I love that idea and this idea that we're talking

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Speaker 4: So when you have these few that you can't explain.

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Speaker 4: Do you think it's possible some of the stuff you're

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? I'm an astronomer, That's what I got my degree in.

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Speaker 5: so clearly what's going to happen, Ron is that people

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Speaker 4: And it only takes one mark, only one incident.

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Speaker 5: That is correct. And that's what I'm all about, is

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Speaker 5: I've got ideas. Abby Loeb's Galileo project has ideas. Other

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Speaker 4: Even though you're this hard science rational guy, you seem

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Speaker 4: What do you feel supports that position. What's the strongest

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Speaker 5: You know, we don't have to go into modern history

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Speaker 4: Okay, we're back on Beyond Contact and I'm speaking with

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Speaker 4: ask you this, what is the feeling about extraterrestrial life.

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Speaker 5: In your world?

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Speaker 5: The bottom line is this process, which I really believe

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Speaker 5: in and has been very validated by other physics people

430
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Speaker 5: out there in the arena of academia, says that basically

431
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Speaker 5: we live in four dimensions, xy, X, Y, and Z

432
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Speaker 5: all moving through time. There's four You have four fingers

433
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Speaker 5: sticking out there. You go, now you stick out your

434
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Speaker 5: thumb and pull in your four fingers like you're hitchhiking. Well,

435
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Speaker 5: that thumb now represents the fifth man, and you can't

436
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Speaker 5: see the four fingers from there because those four fingers

437
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Speaker 5: are a different dimension there the XYZ moveing through times

438
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Speaker 5: where we live every day. But when you pull out,

439
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 5: when you pull out the fifth dimension and go in there,

440
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Speaker 5: you're in a different location, invisible to the four dimensions.

441
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Speaker 5: When you're in the four dimensions, you can see something

442
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Speaker 5: that is otherwise in the four dimensions as well. But

443
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Speaker 5: if it transitions to the fifth dimension right before your eyes,

444
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Speaker 5: it will look like it's simply winking out of sight.

445
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Speaker 5: It could be a car, and if it goes into

446
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Speaker 5: the fifth dimension, it will simply vanish and you go,

447
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 5: what was that? You'll step on in not there? But

448
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Speaker 5: why did it do this? This transition has to do

449
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Speaker 5: with these particular particles that the spaceship or UFO if

450
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Speaker 5: you want to call it, that a UAP could generate,

451
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Speaker 5: and these particles surrounding this object live in this fifth

452
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Speaker 5: dimension I've been talking about, and these particles are called

453
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Speaker 5: Coluza Kline gravitons. But if you can surround your ship

454
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Speaker 5: with these gravitons, your ship can get pulled into this

455
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Speaker 5: fifth dimension, and it's a very warped dimension. And as

456
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Speaker 5: soon as you go in, as soon as you go in,

457
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Speaker 5: the dimensions starts to warp, and the farther in you go,

458
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Speaker 5: the smaller the universe becomes around you. So let's say

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Speaker 5: you go in a tiny little bit and you move

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Speaker 5: a foot. Okay, when you come out, that foot translates

461
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Speaker 5: to maybe ten feet, just to say, but if you

462
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Speaker 5: go in really far into that fifth dimension and move

463
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Speaker 5: that same foot, you're covering a lot more ground because

464
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Speaker 5: the universe is compressed around you. When you come back out,

465
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Speaker 5: you've moved the light year effectively. That's a simplistic way though,

466
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Speaker 5: of looking at how this really works. So here on

467
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Speaker 5: the planet, they don't have engines. On the UFOs don't

468
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Speaker 5: have engines, they don't need them. All they need to

469
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Speaker 5: do is shift out and shift back in to the

470
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Speaker 5: four dimensions. They shift out to the fifth and shift

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Speaker 5: back into our fourth dimension or four dimensions, So it's

472
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Speaker 5: like they pop out and pop in. We look at

473
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Speaker 5: them moving across the sky really really rapidly and making

474
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Speaker 5: ninety degree turns. How can they do that? Well? On

475
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Speaker 5: the shift, they're feeling nothing because they're not actually moving.

476
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Speaker 5: They're just shifting to the fifth dimension. And then they

477
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Speaker 5: pick the entry point that's slightly a little farther ahead

478
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Speaker 5: of where they just were. That's how you have to

479
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Speaker 5: travel if you don't have an engine. They just go

480
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Speaker 5: up pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, and they pop out

481
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Speaker 5: on a zigzag, you know. They zig up into the

482
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Speaker 5: fifth dimension and zag down into the four and they

483
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Speaker 5: do that all over and over and over again to

484
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Speaker 5: move across the sky. Sounds complicated, But if you had

485
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Speaker 5: an advanced computer system on board metering the amount of

486
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Speaker 5: these particles you're sending out, well, then it's not such

487
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Speaker 5: a big deal. In fact, it's automated. It's done all

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Speaker 5: by itself. This is why they could be under the ocean.

489
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Speaker 5: They could be deep in the ocean and not feel

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Speaker 5: the effects of the pressure. Why because they're neither here

491
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Speaker 5: nor there. They're being the fifth dimension. They're in and out,

492
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Speaker 5: they're in between all the time. They're rapidly oscillating back

493
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Speaker 5: and forth. This oscillation is how they elude our detection.

494
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Speaker 5: This oscillation is how they can handle the deep pressures.

495
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Speaker 5: This oscillation going into the fifth dimension and popping into

496
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Speaker 5: the fourth dimensions slightly ahead of where they were, or

497
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Speaker 5: in a ninety degree angle to where they were, is

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Speaker 5: how they avoid g forces. There's no forces on them whatsoever.

499
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Speaker 5: They're just sitting in their ship going why are we

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Speaker 5: gonna be there.

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Speaker 4: And on a article accelerator? Is that what causes this?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, that's that's oppression thing to say, Captain Ron,

503
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Speaker 5: because when you look at a UFO in general, we

504
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Speaker 5: look at them as circles. Use these spherical round UFOs.

505
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 5: You've seen round the spherical ones. We've seen triangular ones.

506
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Speaker 5: In a triangular one, you can still slam a circle

507
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Speaker 5: in there. And I think that UFOs are actually particle accelerators,

508
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Speaker 5: and the particle accelerator powered by a fusion reactor is

509
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Speaker 5: all you need to generate these fifth dimensional particles and

510
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Speaker 5: start utilizing this technology. Keep this in mind moving forward,

511
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Speaker 5: Think about the fact that Lawrence Livermore is working on fusion.

512
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Speaker 5: They've made tremendous breakthroughs with fusion, so far sirn that

513
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Speaker 5: the Large Hadron Collider has added a detector called Atlas

514
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Speaker 5: to its lineup. What's Atlas looking for coaluza, kleine gravitons. Hmm,

515
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Speaker 5: I wonder why, because they're very interesting, Captain Ron, very interesting.

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Speaker 4: We are back on Beyond Contact with Captain Ron. I'm

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Speaker 4: talking with Mark D'Antonio. You know I wanted to bring

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Speaker 4: up this with you real quick. AVI Lobe a few

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Speaker 4: years ago had the moa moa interstellar possibly an interstellar

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Speaker 4: in stellar object that shaped like a pancake that came through.

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts about that.

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Speaker 5: I'm so glad you said it shaped like a pancake,

535
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Speaker 5: because many people thought it was this long, thin spindle thing.

536
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Speaker 5: It was actually a pancake. And that's why he thought

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Speaker 5: it might be a defunct solar sale, because that's what

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Speaker 5: it would look like, you know, coming through the solar system.

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Speaker 5: These are you know, extraterrestrial interlopers. They are asteroids from

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Speaker 5: other solar systems. This one came in not within the

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Speaker 5: plane of our solar system, but very very high, and

542
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Speaker 5: then came through and whipped on through. When it does that,

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Speaker 5: you expect a predictable path on the way out. You

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Speaker 5: expect to be able to predict exactly where it's going

545
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Speaker 5: to go because you know mass, it has a certain mass,

546
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Speaker 5: Gravity affects it a certain way. We know the force

547
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Speaker 5: between gravity two objects, gmm over our square, all those things,

548
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 5: we know the values. So why did Omua mua not

549
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: behave as expected? That's the question. We don't know all

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Speaker 5: Avi Lobe was saying, which got him so much flak.

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Speaker 5: I've talked to Abi, I've worked with him a few

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Speaker 5: times on different productions. All he said was we can't

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Speaker 5: discount the possibility that this may have been alien technology.

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Speaker 5: We can't discount the possibility. And he's absolutely right. Is

555
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Speaker 5: it likely that it was an asteroid? There's a greater

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Speaker 5: than fifty percent chance it was a normal asteroid? Yes,

557
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Speaker 5: maybe greater than eighty percent. However, isn't a twenty percent

558
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Speaker 5: or even a ten percent possibility show you that with

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Speaker 5: all the potential asteroids, that we might find that there

560
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Speaker 5: is something out there that we don't understand.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's the one. I think I get that

562
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Speaker 4: phrasing from where he says that the data suggests that

563
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Speaker 4: it warrants more scientific investigation, and that just with me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the bottom line.

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Speaker 5: Is that not all it is. It's not That's all

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Speaker 5: we're asking is that we just have to let the

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Speaker 5: data speak, and it just means we have to get

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Speaker 5: more data. So Omuama came and went very very quickly,

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Speaker 5: extremely fast. But what happened on the way out was

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Speaker 5: it behaved differently. It behaved badly for an asteroid just

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Speaker 5: winging its way through our solar system. It should have

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Speaker 5: gone in a particular path, an exact path as it

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Speaker 5: came through our solar system. It did not. It followed

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Speaker 5: a different path on the way out, which we can't explain.

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Speaker 5: That was the I think the the premise of the

576
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Speaker 5: book Extraterrestrial Biabi when he wrote that book about that

577
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Speaker 5: it truly is an extraterrestrial asteroid. We know that for

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Speaker 5: a fact. So clearly we know that that the asteroid

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Speaker 5: came from some location out in interstellar space. Its coloration

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Speaker 5: and its surface looked like a deep red, which is

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Speaker 5: exactly what you'd get when you actually expose a surface

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Speaker 5: for billions upon billion of years to ultra violet light

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Speaker 5: from stars and the passages of very very very highly

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Speaker 5: luminous and radioactive radio active objects like stars that are

585
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Speaker 5: emanating this radiation ultraviolet radiation, so the baked soils on

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Speaker 5: the surface would end up turning this deep red ochre color.

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Speaker 5: And that's what this looked like. So clearly, this object

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Speaker 5: was out there for many, many billions of years. And

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Speaker 5: I think that it's very likely, very possible that Abby's

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Speaker 5: actually on the right track. I side with him, and

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Speaker 5: not just because he's the astrophysics guy at Harvard. I

592
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Speaker 5: side with him because the science is valid to me.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing. Let's not discount the science. That's what

594
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Speaker 4: he's trying to Yeattch you too, and I love it. Hey,

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Speaker 4: you know you created this incredible technological achievement of having

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Speaker 4: a network of telescopes that you can control right there

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Speaker 4: from your office and explain to people different aspects of

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Speaker 4: the universe. So let me ask you this. We now

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Speaker 4: have artificial intelligence which seems to be infiltrating just about

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Speaker 4: every aspect of our lives, and they are talking about

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Speaker 4: using AI to decipher objects in our skies like an airplane,

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Speaker 4: a satellite, an asteroid, whatever. Do you feel that this

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Speaker 4: is a useful tool? And have you already gone down

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Speaker 4: this path? Are you using this?

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Speaker 5: I use AI for a number of things, but not

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Speaker 5: for controlling the telescope. At this point, I might actually

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Speaker 5: moving forward. We got a telescope in the Sonoran Desert,

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Speaker 5: as you know, called skytur Livestream. That's the sky too,

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Speaker 5: a Sonora and the Modlin Haine Observatory. And we're putting

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Speaker 5: a second one in. We broke ground in Benson, Arizona.

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Speaker 5: We're putting another one in that's like almost two hundred

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Speaker 5: miles away, and then we have a third one going

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Speaker 5: in right here. Actually about one hundred feet that way

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Speaker 5: from in front of my house here, and it's going

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Speaker 5: to be a solar observatory. We're going to observe the sun,

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Speaker 5: which is a very good thing to do right now,

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Speaker 5: And so I run those remotely. Yes, And using AI

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Speaker 5: to run the solar observatory is probably a very smart

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Speaker 5: idea because the AI would be able to look at

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Speaker 5: the Sun's disc and decide what is something worthy of mention,

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Speaker 5: and it would put out alerts. And that's kind of

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Speaker 5: where I want to go with that. If there's a

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Speaker 5: large flare, we'd catch it. If there's a large prominence

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Speaker 5: of the ballooning off the Sun, we'd catch it. We

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Speaker 5: know when it was occurring. And because they all happened

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Speaker 5: so slowly, plenty of other observatories would be able to

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Speaker 5: be brought online to look at it. You have the

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Speaker 5: Big Bear Observatory in California. That's all they do is

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Speaker 5: look at the Sun, so they'll certainly see it. This

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Speaker 5: would be something that the general public can just get

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Speaker 5: in and see and sign up for sign up for alerts.

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Speaker 4: But I'm wondering more about you about artificial intelligized excuse me,

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Speaker 4: artificial intelligence taking your job of deciphering these videos and

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Speaker 4: determining what something is. Could it look at the sky

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Speaker 4: and say, Lance airpoint, what do you think of that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that's also a possibility. But I

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Speaker 5: also know that AI has already made some really bad mistakes.

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Speaker 5: Now it can be refined. And I've seen so many

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Speaker 5: images that AI called UFOs that were not UFOs. There

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Speaker 5: were birds in fact, in particular, but they were worked

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Speaker 5: on by the AI, and the AI saw angular pieces

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Speaker 5: and deciphered these to be ship panels. And the next

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Speaker 5: thing you know, you've got an image. It looks like

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Speaker 5: it's got rivets in it and stuff like that. And boy,

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Speaker 5: that looks just like a UFO. But the original photo

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Speaker 5: is a big frame, and the original photo has this

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Speaker 5: little tiny dot on it that's fuzzy. You enlarge it

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Speaker 5: and you're going to get a larger fuzzy dot.

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Speaker 4: Wean't this correct? Over time, as AI gets stronger and learns,

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Speaker 4: want it be better at deciphering those type things.

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Speaker 5: Yes and no, maybe, But here's the problem we face.

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Speaker 5: Our resolution of our cameras is only a certain amount.

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Speaker 5: The resolution of your iPhones camera, even if it's a

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Speaker 5: four K video, you're shooting right. Even with that, you

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Speaker 5: have a limitation. You zoom in too far and you're

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Speaker 5: gonna get pictulization, you're gonna get stretched out imagery. If

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Speaker 5: it's a time exposure, you don't even see the object

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Speaker 5: as it's supposed to be. AI could say, oh, I

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Speaker 5: can kind of reconstruct what the object should be based

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Speaker 5: on what I see as a stretch and knowing the exposure,

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Speaker 5: I can figure out what that thing should be. Yes,

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Speaker 5: it does that. You can do that, Okay, I've used

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Speaker 5: technologies like that, but the problem is it can't make

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Speaker 5: the final decision because of the fact that if you

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Speaker 5: have a photo that has a certain amount of detail

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Speaker 5: in it, no amount of any AI manipulation is going

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Speaker 5: to add detail that was there in the original photo.

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Speaker 5: What you have in the original photo is all you got.

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Speaker 5: If you're in large a fuzzy elongated dot. Okay, it's

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Speaker 5: a larger fuzzy elongated dot. You don't know what that is.

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Speaker 5: You can't tell. And AI is not going to be

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Speaker 5: able to share that know that unless it has more

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Speaker 5: data and more resolution, and you can't invent resolution. And

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Speaker 5: that's the problem with AI today. People are using it

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Speaker 5: to look at UFO photos and make the decision. Oh

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Speaker 5: look at UFO. No, that's a bird, but the AI

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Speaker 5: made it into this UFO. You see, you've got this

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Speaker 5: insidious thing going on with AI. It's starting to make

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Speaker 5: things that are fuzzy dots into actual objects.

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Speaker 4: H technology. Well, thank you, Mark, I really appreciate all

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Speaker 4: this stuff is fascinating to me. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Thanks man.

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