1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: What is up Straight Fire? Sam? It's me Jason McIntyre, 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: Straight four year for Wednesday, October the eighth, and uh, 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: we got to start the podcast with the great news 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: that my Yankees have staved off elimination. It could just 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: be temporary, could be just a stay of execution, but 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: the Yankees in what was a pretty incredible rally down 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: six to one at home. Now, I was at a 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: men's league basketball game. This is to tm I here, 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: Robb G's gonna start cracking up. So you know, we're 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: the kind of family that sends out like the Christmas card, right, 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: so we gotta take photos for the Christmas card every 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: year because everybody looks different. Right. Kids are growing up 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: and I'm getting old, you know all that crap. So 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: we were in the Monday Night League and the wife's like, 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: do we want to schedule for Monday. I was like, no, no, no, 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: we can't. We got the men's league. Let's do Tuesday. So, 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: of course this was like six months ago. So what happens, 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: Rob They changed the men's league from Monday to not 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: conflict with Monday Night Football. So now the men's League's Tuesday, 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: so we had our photos shoot in the middle of 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: the men's league game. So I listen, I'm not gonna 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: this is one big one. As you guys know, when 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: the wife's schedules something of this importance, you gotta just 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: you gotta okay, Yep, I'll miss the first half of 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: the game. So I raced to the game. I didn't 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: even see that the Yanks were down six to one 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: at this point. I only get there like late third quarter. 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: We suffered a brutal loss in overtime, but that's neither 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: here or there. The Yankees were down six to one, 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: and I'm glad Rob I wasn't online because I can 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: only imagine the consternation of Yankee fans. Fire boon, pitching stinks, 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. You know, Yankee fans jump off a 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: cliff every time they get oust in the postseason, and truthfully, 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: they haven't won a World Series in a while. They 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: rally from down six to one, and listen, I know 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: there's been some awesome moments of this MLBB postseason. That 38 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge three run homer off the foul pole to 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: tie it just absolute bedlam and Yankee Stadium Jazz Chisholm 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: with the go ahead home run. Yankees win nine to six. 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: Now I'm an optimist. I'm the kind of person who's like, 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: hey man, they took the best punches. They took the 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: Mike Tyson punches from the Blue Jays. I mean, they 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: gave up twenty twenty three runs in Toronto, come home 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: down six to one, and still they're alive. Like, I'm 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: the optimist, I think the Yanks are gonna win this series. 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: I know that's clearly a minority opinion. I'm not gonna 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: get in the weeds of pitching matchups and how the 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: Yankees fair. But Rob, when I see that missed the 50 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: hero against the Red Sox, Schlitler is going for the Yanks, 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: I am very fired up because that kid was nailed. Now, 52 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 2: I don't know how you follow up that Game three 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: performance against Boston. If he's clutched again in the Yankees 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: force a fifth game, Oh man, that would be incredible. 55 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be the understatement of the of the century. 56 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: And I know your big stats guy, I saw the 57 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: stat on Tuesday overnight. Just to give you a context 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 3: about what the Yankees did. How impressive it was. Last 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: night the Yankee p in the first team in MLB 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: postseason history to be down by at least five runs 61 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: and in danger of being swept to come back to 62 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: win the game. Before last night, teams in that scenario 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: have been zero to thirty eight all time. Because usually 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: if your backs against the wall and you're down that big, 65 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: it's really really easy to just kind of fold up 66 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: the shop, close up your tent, and walk away, like, hey, 67 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: it's not our year, it's over. They got our number. 68 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: It is what it is. But to your point, credit 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: to Aaron Judge, who in this series, again it's still 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: be updated in the overnight hours, I believe is batting 71 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: six thirty six in this series. Like Aaron Judge, throughout 72 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: his career, has had his reputation of not being a 73 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: great postseason performer. I think entering these playoffs his postseason 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: batting average was like ninety points lower than his regular 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: season average, which is not unusual. I guess maybe that 76 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: big of a drop is unusual, But for a guy 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: like that, you know you're going against the best of 78 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: the best of the best, you know, it's rare you 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: see a guy who's actually exceeding his regular season numbers 80 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: and Aaron Judge during these playoffs is having one of 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: those runs that people are going to talk about forever, 82 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: like for the life of his career because he already 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: has all the regular seas in accolades. He's got the 84 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: home run chase. You know, he's gonna he got the 85 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: batting title this season. He's got everything you could ask 86 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: for except the great postseason. If they can extend this series, 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 3: as you mentioned they got, they got the young kid 88 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: coming up here on and then in game four, if 89 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: they can extend this out to five, they know, even 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: got to win in Game five, and you look up, 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: it's like, man, Aaron Judge through two rounds batted four 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: to ninety with two home runs and six RBIs, and 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: it's like, like, what else can you say about him? 94 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: Like he's checked all the boxes, and he's really on 95 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: track as crazy as as to sound or to say, 96 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: he's on track to becoming like a top five greatest 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: Yankee ever. And the and the Yankees are loaded, as 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: you know with I mean. 99 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: Like you said it, so let's go top five. Obviously 100 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: all time, you got to put Ruth and Maris and 101 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: Demonsil in there, right sure, Jeter, Jeter Jeter has got 102 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: to be in there, Mariano. 103 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a closer, so it's harder. Okay, all right, 104 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: but Judge is right there. He's knocking on the door, 105 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: like Yogi Berra. You know, uh, Reggie Jackson's a lot 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: of credit, mister October. But his was all postseason. His 107 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: was postseason stuff. Aaron, Judge has all of these guys 108 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: in my opinion, beat you know, of that next tier 109 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: in terms of regular season accolades. All he's missing is 110 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: the playoff run. And he is having one of those 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: playoff runs right now. 112 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: Pretty oppressive. Elsewhere. The Mariners went up to one. I 113 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: gotta be honest, there was a moment Robin the Thanks 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: were down six to one that I would imagine major 115 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: League Baseball was like, oh boy, Seattle Toronto in the 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: uh in the in the conference finals, and that's like 117 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: not great. And then you have Milwaukee. Who are they 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: likely to play? Oh, well, get the Dodgers. You get 119 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: the Dodgers. That's good. But like, and I know people 120 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: hate this when I say this, but like, let's be real, 121 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm probably not talking any Seattle Toronto at all. When 122 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: the Yankees playing, they you know, it's interesting we're going 123 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: to talk about it because it's the Yanks and they 124 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: have Aaron Judge. I mean, Rob, if I if I 125 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: told you close your computer, name four players on the 126 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners, could you do it? 127 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: I got two? 128 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: I got too, how Raleigh yep. 129 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 3: And uh Jay Rod. 130 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: Who Okay, I'll take care nobody. This is just the reality. 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: They're like, listen, we can't do everything, guys. I'm told 132 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: the hockey season is starting. I don't know anything about hockey. 133 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: You just can't. And if you're like Jay Mack, come on, 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: you know like this, the reality is you get married, 135 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: you got kids, you got a job. You gotta go 136 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: heavy on NFL. You gotta know, like you know, I'm 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking. We're gonna be talking backup quarterbacks here in 138 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: a second. Okay, college football, NBA's right around the corner. 139 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: All the news flash, Lebron did not retire. I'll ask 140 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: Rob if he's as angry about that as some other 141 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: people are. I personally don't care, but yeah, I just 142 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: I don't really know many Seattle Mariners. I know my 143 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: guy Glass Beagles a huge Brewers fan, so he's he's 144 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: texting me all as Brewers Brewers I'm like, I just 145 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: I don't know how to respond, but yeah, major League 146 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: Baseball just praying that the Yanks stay in it. Let's quickly, 147 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: let's go to uh NFL. I do want to talk 148 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: about Belichick in a moment, because my goodness, there's something 149 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: out there that's not great. But I gotta ask you. 150 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: So a big trade on Tuesday that came out of nowhere. 151 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns. Remember they went into camp this summer 152 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: saying we're gonna have four quarterbacks. Oh we got four. 153 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: We believe in these guys. You know, well, they traded 154 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, flipped him, and I flipped Joe Flacco this 155 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: week in what was bizarre in the division. Cincinnati has 156 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: seen enough of Jake Browning Zach Taylor saying no, mass no, 157 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm done, No Moss, I can't. I can't 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: deal with this guy. I mean, some people were posting 159 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: clips of Jake Browning's interceptions and it's like, you know, 160 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: to borrow phrase from uh my guy, sorry, Mark Sanchez. 161 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Jake Browning's throwing in the defensive back meetings out there. 162 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, look at the lines. There's like three 163 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: guys that could have intercepted some of his passes, and 164 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: so the Bengals like, we got to get into Joe 165 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: Flacco business. So I was like, oh, okay, here's the problem. 166 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: Rom The Bengals offensive line stinks. They got Joe Burrow hurt. 167 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: Browning's under duress and now you're putting that statue Cement 168 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: shoes Flacco back there. I mean, maybe he can make 169 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: some things happen. He's got a very live arm. I'm 170 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: sure T Higgins owners there was there was a T 171 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: Higgins trade in our fantasy league, well in my son 172 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: and I'm kind of like the de facto commission, and 173 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: I think it was a bogus trade. It's like T 174 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: Higgins and Chris o'lave for Jordan Addison. And I'm like, 175 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: does anybody want to raise it? A I'm not gonna 176 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: be the guy too, but does anybody want to argue this? 177 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: And you know, the one guy was like, well listen, 178 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: T Higgins is a waste now with Jake Browning, And 179 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: I was like, do you want to revisit now? They 180 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: got flat though, They're like not really, but yeah, like 181 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: T Higgins is a non factor. Jamar Chase put up 182 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: huge numbers in garbage time against the Lions. I don't 183 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: I personally don't think Flak is going to do much. 184 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: Rob We'll talk about the Browns angle in a sec. 185 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: But for the Bengals, do you think this even he 186 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: I don't think they're a playoff team this year. I 187 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: don't think they can do it. 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 189 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 190 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 191 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: listen live. 192 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: No, I don't think they're a playoff team, but it's 193 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: definitely an upgrade over Jake Browning. I mean, we don't 194 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: talk a lot about Jake Browning for obvious reasons. At 195 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: less they were winning, we're not going to talk about him. 196 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: Jake Browning through parts of four games, has eight interceptions. Okay, 197 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: in the last three games, they've been outscored one thirteen 198 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: to thirty seven. So for all of Joe Flacco's faults, 199 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: and there are plenty, he is a statue. He's old. 200 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: You know, he's older than me. He's just probably right 201 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: there with you. You guys probably went to prom at 202 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: the same time back in the day. And he is 203 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 3: not an NFL starter at this point. But he can 204 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: be an upgrade over Jake Browning. And if you are 205 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals and you want to ethically tank or 206 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: quietly tank, you can be like, hey, we got Joe Flacco. 207 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: He's obviously better than Jake Browning. We're still going to 208 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: lose these games, but instead of losing thirty five to seven, 209 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: we'll lose them, you know, thirty five twenty two or 210 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: something like that, right, Like, we're gonna be quote unquote competitive. 211 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: So you can, like you said, ethically tank and do 212 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: something like that. But that's all this is. This is 213 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 3: just reshuffling the deck chairs and the Titanic Man totally agree. 214 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: Now from the Browns perspective, And by the way, I 215 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: bet two games this week. One of them is I 216 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: don't know if this is a widow maker spot, but 217 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns just went to London with their rookie quarterback. 218 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: They come back and they play the Pittsburgh Steelers. The 219 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers were off a by so essentially a brutal 220 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: travel spot. Teams that come back from London, I'll struggle 221 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: almost all the time. And you've got a rookie quarterback. 222 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: And now Pittsburgh's off a by and getting healthier. So 223 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: I unloaded on Pittsburgh and I think they crushed the 224 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: Browns this week. But by all accounts, the quarterback room 225 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: is going to be Dylan Gabriel one and the pantomime 226 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: quarterback Shader Sanders as the backup after the Flacco trade. Now, 227 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: obviously this gets a little more interesting in Cleveland. Maybe 228 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 2: they sell some tickets. I don't down the road, I 229 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: don't know. I do believe that the mere fact that 230 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: Shadour will be on the sideline with bring a headset 231 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: and if he has to go in you know, red zone, 232 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: is gonna be like should doers in the game, should do? 233 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: You know, It's gonna be a big deal even though 234 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: he hasn't done anything. And if he happens to do something, 235 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's gonna be big news on Monday. 236 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't really think the Browns are being a serious 237 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: football team right now. So I'm with you. I do 238 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: believe this is a soft tank of sorts. This is 239 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: Cleveland saying, hey, we're just getting off Joe Flacco getting 240 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: a pick, We'll take it and let's trot the rookies out. 241 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: Let's lose the eye games, and let's battle the Jets 242 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: and Titans for the number one pick in the draft 243 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 2: and maybe the Saints for the number one pick in 244 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: the draft, which I don't think is a terrible idea. 245 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: The only question, Rob, is does Stefanski have enough security 246 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: or they're gonna have to blow him out if this 247 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: really if they win like three. 248 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: Games, I'll tell you I don't think they make a 249 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: move like this unless Stefanski has the support of the 250 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: front office, right because this is this is obviously a 251 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: move to the future. You gotta see what you got, 252 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel, you know. And the fact that you can 253 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: get even a late round pick swap for Joe lack 254 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: of at this stage is great. 255 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you really. 256 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 3: Want it to be competitive, you can always make a 257 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: phone call to the Giants and get James Winton back 258 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 3: and down like. That's available to you if you want it, 259 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: if you want it. But as far as the quarterback 260 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: depth chart, to quote Lee Corso, not so fast, my friend. Okay, 261 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how many people saw this, but Darryl Ryder, 262 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: Brown's reporter for ninety two to three The Fan in 263 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: Cleveland reported on Tuesday that it is possible because this 264 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: is not official. They know the official depth chart out 265 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: as we're recording this, that rather than elevate Shador Sanders, 266 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: they could elevate Bailey Zappi to be they stop it 267 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: because unlike Shadoor, Bailey Zappi has experience playing under Kevin Stefanci, 268 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: so he's more, in this reporter's eyes, a more seasoned 269 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 3: backup role for them, and if you want to play 270 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: that game. This kind of jives with what Friend of 271 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: the Show Ian Rappaport had reported for the weekend, where 272 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: he said that the Browns wants to should or to 273 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: be successful when he's out there, and they want to 274 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: do so with the game plan that is made for 275 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: him to thrive. That they don't want to force him 276 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: any action. They want him to be able to According 277 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: to Rappaport quote, the expectation is that Shadur will play 278 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: at some point this season when he's ready, after he 279 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: receives a full week of practice and a game plan 280 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: that's built for him. That does not sound to me 281 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: like a guy they're expecting to be the QB two. 282 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: That sounds to me like they're going to keep him 283 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: in the QB three roll the emergency role running scout team, 284 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: and that way, if and when Dylan Gabriel struggles, which 285 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: he's going to he's a rookie, or he gets banged 286 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: up and knocked out of a game, he doesn't come 287 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: in right away as the backup. Instead he comes in 288 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: after a week of practice and then he gets his shot. 289 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, man, he Zapti remember he had a moment. 290 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: Was it with Belichick or he did. 291 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: He's the one who supplanted mac Jones. 292 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: Fairly certain Bailey Zappi knocked me out of a Survivor 293 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: one year because I had the Bears going into New England. 294 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: Bears were favorites, they were rolling. It was it was 295 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: like a week nine week, I remember it was. It 296 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: was a tough one. I was having a good Survivor 297 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: and that that one freakin hurt. 298 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 299 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: Anyways, honestly, I hate the fact that we have to 300 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: keep talking about the freaking Browns. Bro me too, Like 301 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: there's so many other good stories. You know that the 302 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: eighteen Colts fans will listen to this podcast, Like, guys, 303 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: can we please do some Daniel Jones please? I'm begging you, begging. 304 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 305 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 306 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 307 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: listen live. 308 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: We could wrap up with just some words about the 309 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: state of Bill Belichick in the New England Patriots. It 310 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: was an explosive story that dropped wr L news in 311 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: North Carolina. Divided locker room, disastrous results. Parents blame Belichick 312 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: culture for unc problems. So obviously, you know, take it 313 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: with a grain of salt. It's not a college football insider, 314 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: but these guys have boots on the ground in North Carolina, 315 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: and clearly this gentleman Pat Welter is plugged in. There's 316 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: a lot in here. I'm not going to steal all 317 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: of his thunder. The obvious one was, hey, when Belichick 318 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: and Lombardi brought in seventy guys in the portal, they 319 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: then came in feeling entitled, and the holdovers from the 320 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: Mac Brown era were like, Eh, we're losing our jobs here, 321 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: and they didn't really match the Belichick and Michael Lombardi 322 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: did nothing to get both sides together, and then they 323 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: started giving preferential treatment to the new guys. Essentially Hey, 324 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: their parents were allowed on the sidelines. You know, those 325 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: new recruits. A couple of them played for Belichick son 326 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: at Washington. They transferred in and their parents got referentials 327 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: because they're close to Belichick. And Bill apparently was so 328 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: caught up with Jordan Hudson and this Hulu nonsense that 329 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: he wasn't even really connected with all this stuff, and 330 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: he just wasn't even paying attention that while his locker 331 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: room was imploding, he thought he would come in and 332 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: coach them up and ex'es and o's, and then you realize, man, 333 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: they spent a shit ton of money and they got 334 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: nothing in the portal, and it just it was an 335 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: all around mess. Well, it gets worse. Multiple reports on 336 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: Tuesday say that that Hulu show that was gonna happen 337 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: they have scrapped it. I mean, we're like five weeks 338 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: into the season, guys. Now, I don't know if this 339 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: was on North Carolina side, if this was on Belichick side, 340 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: if this was Jordan Hudson not liking the direction of 341 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: the show. I mean, basically, this is all very very 342 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: bad for Bill Belichick. And I know on some level 343 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: he probably doesn't care. And Bill Belichick's like, oh care 344 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: the media is coming after me. Who cares? I'm worried 345 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: about football. Listen, Bill just split with Tom. He went 346 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: and won a Super Bowl. You struggled with Cam Newton. 347 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: You couldn't coach up Mac Jones after his rookie year. 348 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Mac Jones now thriving in San fran You get blown out. 349 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 2: You can't get anybody to bite. Nobody is interested. They 350 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons, no thanks. You have to settle for UNC 351 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: football and not even halfway through the season and you're 352 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: looking at like maybe four wins. I mean, Rob, this 353 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: is a spectacular failure. And again I yeah, I thought 354 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: this would work. I'll definitely take egg on my face here. 355 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: I thought Belichick was that good that in the lowly 356 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: acc he would come in and be able to cook. 357 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: And I mean they were getting destroyed by Clemson. It 358 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: was like thirty five to three, and then Clem's had 359 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: called off the dogs, and I guess they didn't want 360 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: to rub it in and finish like thirty eight ten 361 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: or something. But I mean, other than that opening you 362 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: remember that opening drive against t stee You they went 363 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: right down the field and for a touchdown. I was like, 364 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: all right, Belichick's got something we good and it has 365 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: been badly downhill from there for the for Belichick and 366 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 2: the targets. 367 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been embarrassing. And again this is coming from 368 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 3: who unlike you. I always thought this was not gonna 369 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: go well. But I didn't think it was gonna go 370 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: this bad. Like even even I didn't think it was 371 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: gonna be this bad. And the worst part about it 372 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: to me is not the losing, right cause you're a 373 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: new coach, you've never coached in college before, you got 374 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: seventy new players, Like I would be shocked if you 375 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: came in he started winning right out of the gate. 376 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: Nick Saban didn't come out winning right out of the 377 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: gate in Alabama, right, Like. It takes time. So if 378 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: you start off the season or you finish the season, 379 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: you know, with four or five wins, but you're competitive, 380 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: you're like, hey, we're building something, we're building a culture. 381 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 3: We're starting from scratch. I had to tear it down 382 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 3: to build it back up. But it's coming. I promise 383 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: you it's coming. Based on what we're hearing in this report, 384 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: that is not the case at all. Like you touched 385 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: on it that there's favoritism and locker room. And according 386 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: to this report, they have a whiteboard in the football 387 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: facility that list the players who have missed workouts or 388 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: miss class. Right, And according to this report, Belichick recruited 389 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: players who repeatedly show up on this list, have suffered 390 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 3: no repercussions, did not have their playing time scratched at all. Right, 391 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: and then you have this situation where, according to this report, 392 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: we all knew that he had his buddies, like this 393 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 3: was Belichick and friends coming to UNC. You got his son, 394 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: he's got longtime friends, he's got Mike Lombardi and some 395 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: guys you know for a long time. You have former 396 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: or current players. Anonymous of course saying on the record, 397 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: quote the lack of experience in the coaches have is ridiculous. 398 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: So this is anything but the New England Patriots. We're 399 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 3: on a Cincinnati type thing. This is not buttoned up 400 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 3: in any kind of way. This is a frat house 401 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 3: basically for senior citizens. And it's playing itself out because 402 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: through the first five game games of the season, UNC 403 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: ranks one twenty eighth in points per game. All Right, 404 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: they've been outscored one twenty to thirty three against power 405 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: four teams. And this is coming from a program that 406 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: Belichick and Lombardi on the record were calling themselves the 407 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: thirty third NFL team because they were gonna have a 408 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: schematic and cultural advantage over anybody else at this level. 409 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 3: That's how confident they were, Like if they were more 410 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: glib and more accessible, this would be a bigger flameout 411 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: than Deon Sanders first season in Colorado. But the difference 412 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: was that Dion was so out in front. She do 413 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: what was so out in front everybody had an opinion 414 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: on him. Belichick is like a curmudgeon and the only 415 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: and and I don't think we had a turn. Very 416 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: few people like Mike Lombardi even before all this happened, 417 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: Like he's got one of those personalities that's tough to like. 418 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: So everybody, rather than focusing on all the behind the 419 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: scenes stuff, they're focusing on the girlfriend. And she's the 420 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: Yoko Ono in the situation what was going on with 421 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: Bill and Jordan Hudson and you know this documentary now 422 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: and it's like whether she's there or not, Like the 423 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 3: football is bad, the culture is bad, and this whole thing, 424 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, has been a spectacular disaster. 425 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that you say this about Michael Lombardi. Okay, 426 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: so we've had him on the podcast. I know him, 427 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: we work together. I'm trying to think this was to 428 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: a twenty twenty seventeen maybe, and I would say, yes, 429 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: what were the word do you used to describe him? 430 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: Prickly? 431 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 3: Yes, difficult at times. 432 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I'll say he's obviously arrogant. You know, 433 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: his last name is Lombardi, even if he's not connected 434 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: to Vince like that's a football name. He's been with 435 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: the Patriots. I'll never forget, you know, when we're in 436 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: the meeting and then the meeting adjourns and we're all 437 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: just kind of hanging out, you know, shooting the shit, 438 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: and then Lombardi turns on the corner and facetiming with 439 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels, like kind of trying to flex like, oh yeah, 440 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: Josh and I personally have no beef with LOBARTI We're good. 441 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: And on air, he would give me shit for not 442 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: playing in the NFL or coaching or anything, and I 443 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: would give it right back to him because you know, 444 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: I'm not going to back down. So we had like 445 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: a good back and forth and we text and stuff, 446 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: and then magically one day he just vanished. He just left, 447 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know what happened. I never asked, you know, hey, 448 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm low on the totem poll. I never asked, never 449 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: got an answer. I still don't know what happened. Whatever, 450 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. But he is an interesting individual, like 451 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: he has a massive ego. And I'm sure between him 452 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: and Bill, this article paints rob about parents are unhappy 453 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: they didn't sign on in North Carolina to deal with 454 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 2: parents of football players. Okay, that's that's like high school, 455 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: middle school or junior league. 456 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: Shit. 457 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: That's not you know, no disrespect to you know, Ryan Day. 458 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: But there's no way on earth if a parent is 459 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: unhappy with Ryan Day that he's gonna have to deal 460 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: with them. That's just not happening. 461 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: Now. 462 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: The best story I heard was Ohio State had a 463 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: quarterback and the coach essentially met with the after the 464 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: season with the quarterback and the father and they were like, well, 465 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: we need to guarantee playing time, and Ryan Day was like, yeah, 466 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that, and the kid left. Now, he 467 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: ended up going to Syracuse to doing well. But Day 468 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: brought in the guy from Kansas State is Will Howard maybe, 469 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: and they won the national championship. So the stories about 470 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: dealing with parents, I'm sure Lombardi and Belichick are are standoffers, like, guys, 471 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this stuff. It is a 472 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: weird situation. I don't know, Rob, do you think he 473 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: can turn it around? Like this article obviously ain't great, 474 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, I don't Could this be 475 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: one and done? 476 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: I think it should be. I think it's very clear 477 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: that what's going on at UNC is not Bill Belichick football. Like, 478 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: say what you want about his shortcomings outside of Tom 479 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 3: Brady and what he did with the Cleveland Browns, and 480 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: you know, even going back to his coordinator days with 481 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 3: the Giants, one thing you could always count on Bill 482 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: was even if he was prickly, he was difficult, whatever. 483 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: He's not the best judger of talent, is he could 484 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: coach him up with the best of them. He could 485 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: devise a game plan that was top notch. That he 486 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 3: was really buttoned up and tight and all that kind 487 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: of stuff. But he was a coach's coach. And what 488 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: we're hearing now, what we're seeing on the field is 489 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: not that it's like he doesn't want to be there, 490 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: and he's only doing it either to collect the check 491 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: or because his hot young girlfriend convinced them this would 492 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: be the best way to get back into the NFL. 493 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: Stay in the public spotlight, beat up on the also 494 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: rounds of the ACC, and then a year from now 495 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 3: you're back coaching. I don't know, the Tennessee Titans or whatever, right, 496 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: and this has not worked at all. Like, let him retire, man, 497 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 3: let him enjoy the twenty something girlfriend rather than just 498 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: being a punching bag day in and day out. 499 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: I would say I wish Belichick luck, but I think 500 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: he's gonna need more than luck at this point. Anyways, 501 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: all right, we are back tomorrow, and I think at 502 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: that point we'll probably start segueing into NBA or maybe 503 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: later this week. I don't know. I just know that 504 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: Lebron did not retire. Most of the guys who played 505 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: in EuroBasket are resting, and you know, Jokic is still 506 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: doing some pretty wild things out there, and one Minyama 507 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: is as well. I'm loving these highlights except for LaMelo 508 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: Ball Robbie, I keep doing with that guy. All Right, 509 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: we'll talk to you tomorrow.