Speaker 1: Hi, Elliott, I be today. Our episode featuring Amelia Earhart
Speaker 1: and Michael Jordan's is all about reaching those great heights,
Speaker 1: both metaphorically and literally. And then, of course there's the
Speaker 1: fun similarity with air Heart and air Jordan's. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I never thought of that. Do you think they're related?
Speaker 1: Nob air Jordan's isn't his last name? It's a shoe
Speaker 1: beazoom tight. But Elliott, you really shouldn't sneeze on the mic.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Eric, please play us in please here. What
Speaker 1: do you think you know about the game is to
Speaker 1: get some gene burkle up your brain because it's signed
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Speaker 1: Who Live from Tom Bland or so called so Cow
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was That? The history quiz
Speaker 1: show that gives contestants that ants to win mega prizes
Speaker 1: and podcast glri. I'm b your announcer who floats like
Speaker 1: a butterfly and stings like a jellyfish. And here's your host,
Speaker 1: runner up for Cincinnati's Best Volunteer Library Assistant three years
Speaker 1: in a row. It's Elliott Kalin. Thank you be and
Speaker 1: everyone listening. I got a good feeling about this year.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win that award and welcome to the Who
Speaker 1: Was Podcast. This show it's like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests,
Speaker 1: silly games, and frankly a slightly less intimidating name. I know,
Speaker 1: I find it more welcoming. Our contestants here were sent
Speaker 1: Who Was books about two great figures from history. Now
Speaker 1: they're here to show off their knowledge in the hopes
Speaker 1: of winning fantastic prizes. They will see us waving from
Speaker 1: such great Heights today when we discussed Amelia Earhart and
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's. But before we get to know about them,
Speaker 1: let's get to know our contestants. First. Up we have
Speaker 1: Max Max please introduce yourself. Hi. I'm Max. I am
Speaker 1: twelve and I like doing ski jumping. It's this really
Speaker 1: interesting type of jumping where you go off ramp and
Speaker 1: it's really fun, exciting and keeping on our such Great
Speaker 1: Heights theme because I bet you catch a lot of
Speaker 1: air off those rants. Thank you, Max. Oh yeah. And
Speaker 1: up next we have Amelia. Amelia please introduce yourself. Hi.
Speaker 1: My name's Amelia. I'm eleven years old. I'm from New
Speaker 1: Jersey and I have not one, not to but three
Speaker 1: younger brothers. Oh my gosh, Amelia, I can't believe it's
Speaker 1: quiet enough to record in your house today. That's so,
Speaker 1: that's so unusual. How are you doing with all of
Speaker 1: those brothers. We have our moments where it's not as
Speaker 1: good as it is right now. Well, thank you so
Speaker 1: much both for being with us, and thank you to Eric,
Speaker 1: our musician, for providing that lovely Meet the Contestants music,
Speaker 1: as well as all the music we're gonna here on
Speaker 1: the show today. So that's who is Now, let's find
Speaker 1: out who was Amelia Earhart with four fast facts us.
Speaker 1: She was the first woman to fly across the Atlantic,
Speaker 1: she set records for flying speed, and the first person
Speaker 1: to fly solo from the US to Hawaii, and she
Speaker 1: started her own airline. Most people remember her for the
Speaker 1: last event in her life, when Amelia Earhart mysteriously disappeared
Speaker 1: while completing a trip around the world. But we want
Speaker 1: to focus on everything that happened before that. Although I
Speaker 1: think I might know where Amelia is. Amelia, are you
Speaker 1: Amelia Earhart? Yeah, that's up. Well, there goes that theory.
Speaker 1: I guess it's still a history's mystery unsolved this very day.
Speaker 1: You know, Amelia was incredibly famous in her day. If
Speaker 1: she were around now, we're pretty sure she'd be sending
Speaker 1: tweets on Twitter like all the other major celebrities. Or
Speaker 1: she'd be coming up with dances on tik tak. You
Speaker 1: mean TikTok? Why do I look like a clock? Okay,
Speaker 1: speaking of time, it's time we get to our first
Speaker 1: game hashtag history. His hashtag history hashtag hashtag In this game,
Speaker 1: B will read you a hashtag Amelia Earhart would have
Speaker 1: used during her life if there was social media, and
Speaker 1: you will tell us what it's about, what it's referring to.
Speaker 1: Take it away. Be okay, Max, This first question is
Speaker 1: for you. Our first hashtag is hashtag friendship goals. I
Speaker 1: think that is when she was talked to Netta. I
Speaker 1: think that's what her name was, her friend when she
Speaker 1: first learned about flying. It's a very good guest, but
Speaker 1: unfortunately it's not what we're looking for with this one.
Speaker 1: The friendship was actually the airplane Amelia took on that
Speaker 1: first flight across the Atlantic. Making it to the other
Speaker 1: side was definitely hashtag friendship goals. But nice try. Next
Speaker 1: question is for Amelia. Our next hashtag is hashtag problems. Okay,
Speaker 1: so was the name of the group that Amelia had formed,
Speaker 1: and the name was flopping from like eighty three to
Speaker 1: seven and they finally settled on ninety nine. That's right.
Speaker 1: The ninety nine was the group of over two hundred
Speaker 1: female pilots that Amelia Heart became the president of. This
Speaker 1: organization helped female pilots find employment and community with other
Speaker 1: female pilots. That was great. Next question is for Max.
Speaker 1: This hashtag is hashtag all the single Ladies. I think
Speaker 1: that's when she turned down so many marriages from many
Speaker 1: different guys. That's right. Amelia turned down several marriage proposals
Speaker 1: to focus on her career, which was not the thing
Speaker 1: that women were expected to do at the time. She
Speaker 1: later married her manager, George Putnam, but they both agreed
Speaker 1: that Amelia would put her career first. Take that, George,
Speaker 1: great answer, Max. Next question is for Amilia Amelia. This
Speaker 1: hashtag is hashtag snooky Um. I think it was like
Speaker 1: the name of her plane or something. Oh sorry, That
Speaker 1: hashtag refers to Amelia's first flying teacher, Netta Snook, another
Speaker 1: pioneering female a Theator. It's who Max was talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: By strange coincidence, hashtag hashtag and that Jam tells us
Speaker 1: that's the end of the game. This is so exciting.
Speaker 1: Producer Jamee will tally with the scores. Well, we take
Speaker 1: a short break. Welcome back to the Who Was? Podcast? Everyone, Jane,
Speaker 1: are you ready with those scores? These scores are up
Speaker 1: in the air right now, the games anyone's the score
Speaker 1: is one to one. That's Max with one, Amelia with one.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jane. It's a great game we've got going.
Speaker 1: It's a tie right now. Will it remain a tie?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't tell the future. How could
Speaker 1: this game get any better? Though? Oh man, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad you asked Elliott, because we have a very special
Speaker 1: guest joining us, the woman who puts the heart and
Speaker 1: air heart be that's not how hard it felt? Okay,
Speaker 1: well maybe it should be. It's that ace E Vatrix herself,
Speaker 1: Amelia air Heart. Curtesye if everybody's favorite time telephone? Who
Speaker 1: was that? Who Was? Wanderings? Oh wow, I cannot believe
Speaker 1: you're here with us today, miss air Heart. Listen Busta.
Speaker 1: I've traveled through air, oversea and on land. I couldn't
Speaker 1: resist a chance to travel through time, miss air Hurtle,
Speaker 1: you tell us about flying all by yourself across the
Speaker 1: Atlantic Ocean. Your don juting, I will there are was
Speaker 1: all alone, fifteen hours in the air with nothing below
Speaker 1: me but the Brianity. Fifteen hours. It's a long flight.
Speaker 1: You must have watched a lot on movies on that flight.
Speaker 1: What movies on an aerial plane? You twenty one century
Speaker 1: people are goofy when I have fel across the Atlantic.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get distracted even for a moment, fifteen hours
Speaker 1: of intense focus. Hey, Amelia, can you tell this mug
Speaker 1: what would happen if I flew too high? Um? You
Speaker 1: would die? Yes, I love it. I love a lady
Speaker 1: who's short and succinct and to the point my wings
Speaker 1: would ice up and I would die. And Max, can
Speaker 1: you tell this tabioca Sam? What would happen if I
Speaker 1: flew too low? Would your instruments not work? Ding? Ding ding?
Speaker 1: That's right, my instruments wouldn't work. I couldn't stop for
Speaker 1: a working moment, and those fifteen hours went by a
Speaker 1: real slow. But you did have snacks, right, horse feathers.
Speaker 1: All I had was chicken soup for a sipping. But
Speaker 1: chickens can't fly. Wouldn't have help more if you had
Speaker 1: some duck souper, maybe alvatross soup of flying bird soup. Oh, dreepers,
Speaker 1: creepers would a maroon? Maybe our contestants have some thoughts
Speaker 1: on what you could do to keep from falling asleep
Speaker 1: on that flight, Amelia, what do you do on long
Speaker 1: trips to keep from getting bored or any time that
Speaker 1: you kind of have to stop yourself and falling asleep?
Speaker 1: Do you have a trick for that? Listen to music
Speaker 1: and like mouth the words. I mean that that sounds good,
Speaker 1: Amelia Earhart, this time, Eric, could you have listened to
Speaker 1: music while you're on the plane? Oh my goodness. No,
Speaker 1: you can't hear anything over the plane's engines, which is
Speaker 1: sometimes actually why I liked it. I couldn't hear my
Speaker 1: own thoughts. I couldn't hear my own sadness. I just
Speaker 1: had to be one with the plane. Come back to us, Amilia,
Speaker 1: Come back to us, I understand, Come back to us.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was going off
Speaker 1: in a different direction and it wasn't north by northwest
Speaker 1: or south by southeast or south by south north directions.
Speaker 1: Those are all real directions. I'll have you know next.
Speaker 1: Do you have any tricks for for keeping from getting
Speaker 1: bored when you're when you're getting bored on a long
Speaker 1: trip or something like that. I think my younger brother
Speaker 1: is also unboard, nous I need oh now, okay, so
Speaker 1: your younger brother keeps you awake? Definitely? Oh my goodness. Now,
Speaker 1: I was around for the early part of flying, and
Speaker 1: one of the things that people used to do was
Speaker 1: kick the back of other people's seats. Now and only
Speaker 1: hope that in this day and age everyone has grown
Speaker 1: out of that. Is that true? Yes, it's practically a
Speaker 1: sport by now. It's practically a sport by now. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope they let women play because we would definitely
Speaker 1: win the gold medal in that in seed kicking in
Speaker 1: seed kicking, yes for sure. Oh yeah, well, we're almost
Speaker 1: out of time. Only, is there anything else you wanted
Speaker 1: to tell our listeners? Maybe something nice about me since
Speaker 1: you've been kind of insulting to me up until now. No, okay,
Speaker 1: I think it's time to say goodbye to Amelia. Are heard? Everybody? Alright?
Speaker 1: All right now, Tululu, you two have been the feast knees.
Speaker 1: Thank you? Who was out? Oh my goodness, Amelia Earhart
Speaker 1: was just talking about my knees. No, no, no, be
Speaker 1: The bee's knees is an expression. It means something exceptional.
Speaker 1: And speaking of exceptional, let's get to know today's other
Speaker 1: great figure, Michael Jordan's. Okay, now let's be clear as
Speaker 1: not to alarm our listeners. Michael Jordan's is still alive
Speaker 1: and well as we record this episode. Yes, but sometimes
Speaker 1: on who was the contributions of an individual are so
Speaker 1: great we want to celebrate them asap. We don't want
Speaker 1: to wait. And if there's one person in recent sports
Speaker 1: history who meets that mark, it's Michael Jordan's perfect basketball sound.
Speaker 1: And now it's time for Michael Jordan's for fast facts past.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was captain of the legendary Chicago Bulls basketball team.
Speaker 1: He was a winner of the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 1: He earned six NBA Championship rings, more than fit on
Speaker 1: one hand, and he was a gold medalist pass. But honestly,
Speaker 1: he's such an accomplished athlete. It's just a small sample
Speaker 1: of his achievements that we've mentioned, more than you can
Speaker 1: fit into four fast facts box out, double dribble all
Speaker 1: you and I think that's basketball talk. For It's time
Speaker 1: for our next game. Let's get ready for a slam
Speaker 1: dunk free throw? Or about I love using sports words. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's how the game is going to work. B will
Speaker 1: make a statement about Michael Jordan's and this statement will
Speaker 1: either be completely true, half true, or totally false. If
Speaker 1: you think that the statement is completely true, you will
Speaker 1: say that the statement is a slam dunk. And if
Speaker 1: you think the statement is half true, you will say
Speaker 1: that it is a free throw. And finally, if you
Speaker 1: think that the statement is completely false, you will guess
Speaker 1: that the statement is a foul. What for each correct response,
Speaker 1: you will learn two points, just like a shot in basketball. Okay, Max,
Speaker 1: here is the first statement. Michael Jordan one signed a
Speaker 1: deal with Nike to release shoes and other products centered
Speaker 1: around him called Air Jordan's. Is it a slam dunk
Speaker 1: free throw or a fout slam dunk? Shar That's right,
Speaker 1: It's a slam dunk. It's true. My Jordan's started the
Speaker 1: trend of basketball players signing deals with sneaper brands when
Speaker 1: he signed a contract with Nike back in This was
Speaker 1: an especially big deal because he hadn't even played a
Speaker 1: single game in the NBA yet. I wish someone would
Speaker 1: give me a shoe deal. I've never played any games ever. Alright, Amelia,
Speaker 1: here is your statement. After retiring from the NBA, Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan also ran a bicycling business called Michael's Bichael's. That's right,
Speaker 1: it's a foul. Michael never ran a bicycle shop called
Speaker 1: Michael's Bikels, But I'm not gonna lie. That would have
Speaker 1: been a really cool name for a bicycle company. He's
Speaker 1: still around. I hope he does it. Oh yeah, alright, Max,
Speaker 1: back to you. Here's a statement. At one point, Michael
Speaker 1: left the game of basketball to start a new athletic
Speaker 1: career and play football, only to go back to basketball.
Speaker 1: That is free throw. He did leave basketball for a
Speaker 1: little bit, but not football. That's right. That's really right,
Speaker 1: they answer his free throw. It's only half true. Well,
Speaker 1: Michael did leave the game of basketball. He left to
Speaker 1: play aceball, not football. He left in play a little
Speaker 1: bit of baseball, got tired of baseball and returned to
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bowls in. It was an eventful couple of
Speaker 1: years for him. A baseball The thinking man's football. Amelia,
Speaker 1: here is your next statement. In the nineties, Michael made
Speaker 1: a movie that featured him playing basketball with Bugs money
Speaker 1: called Space Jam Slam Dunk. That's right, that answer is
Speaker 1: a slam dunk. Not only did Space Jam the movie
Speaker 1: make over two hundred and thirty million dollars at the
Speaker 1: box office, but Michael Jordan actually had a basketball court
Speaker 1: built next to the studio so he could continue to
Speaker 1: practice playing basketball when he wasn't filming. And I think
Speaker 1: he and Bugs are still friends to this very day.
Speaker 1: That's sweet. Ah. Yes, the sound of Air Jordan's squeaking
Speaker 1: on a basketball court means the game is over. Let's
Speaker 1: go to producer Jane with the scores. Well, this may
Speaker 1: come as a shock, Elliott, but now Amelia has six
Speaker 1: points while Max has six points. Thank you Jane. Wow,
Speaker 1: it is still anyone's game as we go into the break.
Speaker 1: But before we go, we've got a question for our
Speaker 1: contestants and our audience to ponder. This is for Max
Speaker 1: and Amelia. We're going to give you time to write
Speaker 1: down your answers during the break and then you'll share
Speaker 1: them with us when we come back. Here's the question,
Speaker 1: So listen, carefully. A common basketball move is called pivoting.
Speaker 1: When a player stands still and steps with one foot
Speaker 1: to change direction, that's a pivot. Michael Jordan had to
Speaker 1: pivot or change direction many times over the course of
Speaker 1: his career. Can you list three of them? Bonus points?
Speaker 1: If you can name times that Amelia Earhart had to
Speaker 1: pivot as well, think about it. We'll right back. Hey,
Speaker 1: who Was? Ers? Want to make a shout out to
Speaker 1: your own favorite person history, famous or unfamous. Do you
Speaker 1: think your sour don't recipe is better than ours? Would
Speaker 1: you like to tell us your craziest dream. What I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is we want to hear from you,
Speaker 1: so send us an email or voice memo at the
Speaker 1: Who Was Podcast at gmail dot com groups. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Who Was? Podcast. On today's episode, we're finding
Speaker 1: out who was Amelia air Arnt and Michael Jordan's. Before
Speaker 1: we left, we asked our contestants, can you list three
Speaker 1: times Michael Jordan had to pivot off the court? Bonus
Speaker 1: points for Amelia air Hearts pivots to Now let's hear
Speaker 1: their answers. Amelia, You're up first, all right, So my
Speaker 1: first pivot is when he left basketball. My second one
Speaker 1: takes a very long jump. It goes to when he
Speaker 1: joined baseball, and my third one is when he split
Speaker 1: up with his wife and married his second wife. Nice job.
Speaker 1: And I have once for Amelia Earhart? Should I say
Speaker 1: those now? Oh? Yes? Please do yes, please do so.
Speaker 1: My first one is when she had to sell her plane,
Speaker 1: My second one is when she bought a car, and
Speaker 1: my third one is when she got her new plane. Awesome.
Speaker 1: Does all sound good to me? This is very funny,
Speaker 1: But I thought that when you said pivot you meant
Speaker 1: it physically, like when would he actually have to pivot
Speaker 1: like in a game so real, like in the Olympics.
Speaker 1: He probably had to pivot in a game to like
Speaker 1: spin around? Did she used to fall? But no, when
Speaker 1: he had twins, when his first kids were girls, and
Speaker 1: then when his first kids were boys, when he changed
Speaker 1: from basketball to baseball, and also when he left baseball
Speaker 1: and joined the Bobcats as a coach ish instead of
Speaker 1: an actual player. So keeping it in mind now your
Speaker 1: new knowledge about what we mean by pivots, do you
Speaker 1: have any pivots for Amelia Earhart? When Amelia Earhart how
Speaker 1: she stopped being a nurse and she became a pilot. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's my one. Okay, So looking at my scores here, Amelia,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a five points for that,
Speaker 1: and Max you have a four points for that. So
Speaker 1: from that round, Amelia five, Max four. Producer Jane, before
Speaker 1: we head into our final game, have you had time
Speaker 1: to tally those and add those to the regular scores
Speaker 1: to get our super duper new scores? I sure did, Elliott,
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. It It was like
Speaker 1: the basketball score of the game I'd play basketball in.
Speaker 1: Amelia has eleven points and Max has nine. Thank you, Jane.
Speaker 1: This is still such a close game. This is still,
Speaker 1: as they say in sports, anybody's game, alright. So, Elliott,
Speaker 1: I get the connection between Michael Jordan and Amelia Earhart
Speaker 1: is like in flying and pivoting and who knows, maybe
Speaker 1: even some fast breaks or half court presses or free throws.
Speaker 1: You really, you really seem to be stretching the metaphor
Speaker 1: there be Oh yes, most definitely, um, but do they
Speaker 1: have anything else in common? I'm so glad that you asked,
Speaker 1: because that's the topic of our next game, which is
Speaker 1: called Tycoon A Tycoon. Amelia Earhart and Michael Jordan aren't
Speaker 1: just memorable because of their big talents and bold accomplishments.
Speaker 1: They were both able to solidify themselves in the public
Speaker 1: mind by endorsing products and extending their celebrity to other areas.
Speaker 1: So for this game, we're going to read taglines for
Speaker 1: made up products. You'll tell us if they would have
Speaker 1: been created by Amelia Earhart or Michael Jordan's. Here to
Speaker 1: help us voice the commercials is Zach our intern with
Speaker 1: the Golden Voice, Amelia. This first question is for you
Speaker 1: roll that jingle, gardeners. Are you dissatisfied with the way
Speaker 1: your plants are growing? Then you need a fertilizer that's
Speaker 1: three times more powerful than the average pete boss try
Speaker 1: three peete, yes, three peat for plants with three times
Speaker 1: the luster, three times the foliage, and three times the growth.
Speaker 1: Three pete find it wherever fertilizer is sold. Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: with his two time three pets that tried, Amelia, This
Speaker 1: is a Michael Jordan's jam. Three refers to the three
Speaker 1: times the Bulls won the NBA Championship in a row,
Speaker 1: but overall they won six times. That's amazing. I hope
Speaker 1: to beat that record someday, but I've got to start
Speaker 1: pretty soon. Yeah. Keep training, Elliott, keep keep reaching for
Speaker 1: those stars. Yeah. I'm still learning about basketball and how
Speaker 1: it works. But I figured by the time I'm fifty
Speaker 1: year sixty, I'll be ready to start trying to break
Speaker 1: that record. Yeah, Elliott b Yes, it's producer Jane. I
Speaker 1: feel the need to inform you of an error I
Speaker 1: may have made in what I call complicated math. I
Speaker 1: added six and four and came up with nine. The
Speaker 1: correct answer is, of course ten. Amelia has eleven points,
Speaker 1: Max has ten. Please forgive me, Jane. Thank you for
Speaker 1: the correction, and I admire the guts it took to
Speaker 1: admit to a mistake. That's a lesson we can all
Speaker 1: learn from. We can all learn that's right. Amen. So
Speaker 1: knowing that the game is even tighter than we thought, Max,
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Speaker 1: my mouth, but I don't want to waste it. Whatever
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Speaker 1: retire Mint. How did you get in my house? Also? Retirement? Yes,
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Speaker 1: stays strong. So go answer that door, retire Mint. Oh
Speaker 1: waits your whims Thanks retirement? All right, Max, what do
Speaker 1: you think? I think that that is Michael Jordan's because
Speaker 1: he retired to do baseball and then he came back
Speaker 1: out of retirement. Yes, absolutely correct, we do. Go Okay, Amelia,
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Speaker 1: Who knows the best way to start a big adventure
Speaker 1: is with Violet cheerio? That is Amelia Earhart because Violet
Speaker 1: was their code for when they were taking off with
Speaker 1: the plane. That's right, Amelia. That's the telegram that Amelia
Speaker 1: sent George Putnam before her flight across the Atlantic, so
Speaker 1: it belongs to Amelia. Great job, And the next one
Speaker 1: is for Max. Is your schedule too stressful? I feel
Speaker 1: like sometimes you just want to disappear. Well, then let
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Speaker 1: SPA take you away. Find yourself by completely getting lost
Speaker 1: at how Island Resort and Spaw Island Resort and SPA
Speaker 1: is not responsible for any disappearances. I think that that
Speaker 1: is Amelia Earhart also, because she also disappeared. We'll trying
Speaker 1: to get to Howell Island, where you will lose every
Speaker 1: sense of yourself. That's true. That's exactly what happened to Amelia.
Speaker 1: At least she Howell's Islands, the place who's trying to
Speaker 1: get to when she disappeared, never to be seen again. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the end of that round. Great job playing, everybody,
Speaker 1: and that's the end of the game. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I feel just like Michael Jordan's We're in the penalty
Speaker 1: box and we're about to free kick and the Swedish
Speaker 1: judge keeps giving us the stink eye. Those are all
Speaker 1: definitely basketball terms. Absolutely Before we hear the scores, though,
Speaker 1: I want to ask our contestants, was there something that
Speaker 1: they learned when they were reading about Amelia Earhart of
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan that really stuck with them, Something that surprised them,
Speaker 1: something that felt memorable, something they never would have guessed before,
Speaker 1: or that they'll take with them for the rest of
Speaker 1: their lives. Amelia will start with you, what's something that
Speaker 1: really jumped out of you when you're reading these books?
Speaker 1: Um that Amelia Earhart with Sam Chapman she rejected his
Speaker 1: marriage proposal not just one time, but two times and
Speaker 1: got married to someone else. And what and what do
Speaker 1: you take from that? Why did that stick out to you?
Speaker 1: Do you think because she was so determined that it
Speaker 1: was only her career that she wasn't going to have kids,
Speaker 1: be you stay at home mom. It was her career
Speaker 1: that was coming first, and she wasn't going to let
Speaker 1: some man take that away from her. Yeah, some Chapman
Speaker 1: take that away from her, it said a put Nam.
Speaker 1: She allowed to help her in her career as as
Speaker 1: an equal partner. That's what about you. I definitely did
Speaker 1: not know that Michael Jordan's was in a commercial with
Speaker 1: bug Bunny. You really didn't know that. Well. I knew
Speaker 1: he was in a movie, Bugs Bunny, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know that he was in a commercial with Bugs Bunny
Speaker 1: where Bugs Bunny were Harry Jordan's that's right before the
Speaker 1: movie came the commercial and people saw them together and
Speaker 1: they were like, this is a star couple, Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: and Bugs Bunny. We've got to capture this magic in
Speaker 1: a bottle again. They were the Ginger Rogers and Fred
Speaker 1: Astaire of their day. I'm sure all our listeners out
Speaker 1: there will understand their reference. M Well, just like they
Speaker 1: say about Ginger Rogers, Bugs Bunny had to do everything
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan did, but backwards and as a bunny and
Speaker 1: in heals. Oh, those are great things to remember about
Speaker 1: both of them. Something inspiring about Miliahart and frankly, it's
Speaker 1: pretty inspiring that Michael Jordan got to work with the
Speaker 1: cartoon rabbit twice. Thank you both so much for sharing
Speaker 1: those with us. Jane, can you give us the final scores?
Speaker 1: I'm happy to do that, Elliott, And let me just
Speaker 1: tell you they both played amazing games, but there can
Speaker 1: be only one winner, unless, of course, there's a tie,
Speaker 1: and they have both won with twelve points, which is
Speaker 1: a fact. Is that what happens. It's completely possible that
Speaker 1: I'm wrong again. So Amelia was ahead before we went
Speaker 1: into the last round. Yeah, Amelia was one ahead, it
Speaker 1: was ten, and then we both got two points so
Speaker 1: that it would be twelve. That's right. You've got to
Speaker 1: welcome us to the Who Counts podcast, where we ask
Speaker 1: what are numbers? How do they work? So could somebody
Speaker 1: ask me to score a good? Great? You got it.
Speaker 1: We'll go back. Everyone pretend none of that ever happened.
Speaker 1: None of it happened. Don't worry. Jane will never speak
Speaker 1: of this moment. And now let's go to Jane for
Speaker 1: the final score. Jane, Yes, Eliot, both players played an
Speaker 1: amazing game. But the final score is Max with twelve
Speaker 1: points and Amelia with good games. And you're totally sure
Speaker 1: about that. You're confident that that's the end of the game.
Speaker 1: I feel very confidently. I wonder if my lucky numbers
Speaker 1: we did it well. Amelia, Congratulations, you played a great game. Max,
Speaker 1: you played a great game too. This is a real
Speaker 1: close one. Amelia. As our winner, you have ten seconds
Speaker 1: now to shout out to whoever you want to, So
Speaker 1: who would you like to thank for this amazing victory? Mom, Dad, Liam, Quinn, Emmet,
Speaker 1: sim G Bridget and Izzy. That's a lot of shoutouts
Speaker 1: to fit into that time. And you did it. That
Speaker 1: was great. Well, I'm going to give a shout out
Speaker 1: to our intern Zach, to Jane, to Eric, and of
Speaker 1: course to be a big thank you to both of
Speaker 1: our contestants for playing a fantastic game and having a
Speaker 1: lot of fun with us Today. Amelia, you and your
Speaker 1: school library, we're receiving a set of who Was books,
Speaker 1: and everyone at home you'll be receiving the memory you
Speaker 1: had of this podcast. Thank you very much for listening.
Speaker 1: Join us next week we're gonna find out who the
Speaker 1: next two exciting historical figures are in the Who Was Podcast.
Speaker 1: Until then, this is Elliott air Calin saying we're history
Speaker 1: and thank you. Got a question for any of our
Speaker 1: famous figures, send us a voice memo at who Was
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Speaker 1: on the show. Who Was Podcast is produced by Radio Point,
Speaker 1: I Heart Media and Penguin Workshop, based on the best
Speaker 1: selling who h Q series published by Penguin. Who Was
Speaker 1: Podcast is hosted by Elliot Caylin with co host Megan
Speaker 1: O'Neill as b also starring Jane Baker as Producer, Jane,
Speaker 1: Eric Shackney az Eric, Zach Timpson as our golden voiced intern,
Speaker 1: and Megan O'Neill as Amelia Earhart. The executive producers are
Speaker 1: Richard Corson, Alex Bach, Elliott Calin, Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell,
Speaker 1: and Houston Snyder. The executive producer for Penguin Workshop is
Speaker 1: Francesco Sadita. The executive producer for iHeart Media is Lindsay Hoffman.
Speaker 1: This episode was written by Megan O'Neill, Elliott Klin, Zach Timpson,
Speaker 1: and Jane Baker. This podcast was produced by Bernie Kaminski.
Speaker 1: Our talent producer is Jane Baker. The theme song and
Speaker 1: music were composed and performed by Eric Shackney, edited and
Speaker 1: mixed by Bree Mattan, recorded by Joanna Samuels. Special thanks
Speaker 1: to Zach Timpson, Charlotte Dianda, Daniel Goodman, and Michael Lewis Howard,
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