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Speaker 1: This fine fine fall day?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know anything about modern medicine, but.

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Speaker 2: I try to run before our show, our preview show,

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Speaker 1: Tie, do you do any kind of tricks? With the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in all. We have got a big week

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Speaker 1: of college football ahead this episode, all of our episodes

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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty good. I think it's pretty good

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Speaker 2: anything you could possibly want. You want suite, you want spicy,

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Speaker 1: Of college football. But does that point two narratives per se? Right?

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Speaker 1: Where? You know what I'm saying like I do? I do.

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Speaker 1: Are we close? Are we not close? Of course, Solidverbo

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Speaker 1: Twelve pm on Fox, it's the big noon game. It

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Speaker 1: Dan be advised, Be advised that I am delivering this

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Speaker 1: I am a graduate of the Pennsylvania State University. I

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Speaker 2: I just have my doubts about living on that earth too,

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Speaker 2: So I'm going Blue minus seven totally fair. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: Like Dylan Gabriel is going to be back this week,

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Speaker 1: We're just we're not gonna Also, Jalen Daniel's status is

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel playing inside linebacker, playing the edge on defense.

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Speaker 1: No, no, he's playing safety. He's not.

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Speaker 2: And so there are a number of issues. The biggest

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Speaker 1: That's correct, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Jalen Daniel's status is. It sounds

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Speaker 2: two weeks. This Kansas offense is not going to be

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Speaker 1: Touchdown is nine? It's up to nine. It has ballooned

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think I think Kansas is the move here.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the lens through which you are you are

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma here, I'm on Oklahoma. I think bounce back week.

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Speaker 1: I think forty nine to nothing was an eye opener

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Speaker 1: I think they're ten to fourteen points. Better. Give me

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Speaker 1: Give me sooner? Give me the Sooners. Enough of this

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Speaker 1: Kansas talk, oh Man.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kansas the number two success or or explosive play

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Speaker 1: And true, I get it, Look, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Say what you want, Okay, I'm I'm going to take

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Speaker 1: Version now, And I said as much. I said as much.

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Speaker 1: But okay, you can't convince me four in a row.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you were, if you could fully eliminate

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Speaker 2: It's Kansas. It's Oklahoma, it's Kansas. But in that vacuum

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Speaker 2: with this year's play, I just feel like there's different calculus.

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Speaker 1: Ed that's fair. We'll know a lot more about Kansas

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Speaker 1: by December. Yeah, as we are to say on the show.

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Speaker 1: I always like when you go through a bunch of

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to do or what I say.

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Speaker 1: I want to move to the next game I know,

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Speaker 1: which is Iowa State against Texas also in that early block,

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Speaker 1: Generate points all that consistently. Also, I also think it's

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Speaker 1: They've played a lot of pickleball teams.

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Speaker 2: They played pickleball teams. They lost to Baylor. They gave

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Speaker 2: You can look up there, they're three and out percentage

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Speaker 1: as to whether or not Tommy DeVito's coming back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's up in the air the last I

435
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Speaker 2: saw Tommy DeVito's status, which even then is tough because

436
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Speaker 2: if if we're to believe Minnesota has a good team

437
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Speaker 2: and a good defense, at the very least, I think

438
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Speaker 2: they have a really good defense. They're a litl againsist

439
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Speaker 2: on offense. Illinois beat them last year, by the way,

440
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Speaker 2: Illinois most certainly beat them last year and held them down.

441
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Speaker 2: And we're having a conversation about what we now believe

442
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Speaker 2: to be at least a very good defense or good

443
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Speaker 2: defense playing at home as a dog.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing, right, that's the that's the thing.

445
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Speaker 1: Nobody feels great about seeing King Arthur playing quarterback. But

446
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Speaker 1: the Illinois defense might be the best unit on this field.

447
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of I might be. I'm kind of

448
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Speaker 1: mixed here. I will go Illinois plus six and a

449
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Speaker 1: half at home.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here are the offense is that Illinois has played

451
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Speaker 2: this year Wyoming, Indiana, Virginia, Wisconsin, Iowa, Chatty Nugs. Okay, Yeah,

452
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Speaker 2: not a super impressive list, but they've taken care of business.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: The offense is that Minnesota has played this year nobody

455
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Speaker 2: in September, New Mexico State, Western Illinois, Colorado, Michigan State,

456
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Speaker 2: and then finally a decent one in Purdue.

457
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Speaker 1: Last week.

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Speaker 2: They gave up twenty points and they then scored They

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Speaker 2: themselves scored.

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Speaker 1: Ten in a losing effort.

461
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's a fools gold element

462
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Speaker 2: to Minnesota now that they finally played a decent opponent

463
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Speaker 2: they lose to Purdue. This is a couple weeks ago now, right.

464
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Speaker 2: They had a bye week last week, so it's Minnesota

465
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Speaker 2: coming off of bye week before traveling to Champagne. But

466
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Speaker 2: they managed to score ten points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah against you got to go at home. You gotta

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Speaker 1: go at home. By the way, gotta go Illinois. I'm

469
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Speaker 1: going to Illinois.

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Speaker 2: I'm sticking with my ethos of good defense at home

471
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Speaker 2: as a dog.

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Speaker 1: You left out the good quarterback part though, didn't you.

473
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Speaker 1: I will tell afternoon block of games plan accordingly because

474
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Speaker 1: there are some bangers here. Three point thirty CBS. This

475
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Speaker 1: is sort of the biginn of the weekend. Alabama six

476
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Speaker 1: and oho favored by seven and a half on the

477
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Speaker 1: road at Tennessee five and zero. Enormous e r miss

478
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Speaker 1: game here in college football in the SEC. Alabama's won

479
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Speaker 1: the last fifteen meetings. You got to go back seven

480
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Speaker 1: years to find the last one that was even close.

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Speaker 1: For what it's worth, the numbers that I use my

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Speaker 1: kind of thialytics thing that I am trying to make

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Speaker 1: available on Patriotic Statistics if I have the time, I'm

484
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Speaker 1: trying to make them available on Patreon. The numbers that

485
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Speaker 1: I have have this one at Bama minus two. Oh,

486
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Speaker 1: okay minus two. I don't know if I totally buy that.

487
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Speaker 1: Like all numbers, it's a guide, it's not the gospel,

488
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Speaker 1: but it speaks to how much Tennessee's improved, and I

489
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: don't think that should be overlooked in a matchup like this,

490
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Speaker 1: where I believe game day is going to be there.

491
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Speaker 1: They've obviously got a lot of momentum. We both think

492
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Speaker 1: very highly of Hendon Hooker, we do have good intel

493
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Speaker 1: on both teams. After six weeks, I believe both teams

494
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Speaker 1: cannon will score here. Tennessee is not great against the pass,

495
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Speaker 1: and you know Obama can exploit that. It's just to

496
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Speaker 1: what end. I do think Bryce Young will be back right.

497
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: It sounds like he almost wanted to come back last week.

498
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: Likely yeah, but they didn't let him because of the

499
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Speaker 1: injury to his shoulder. My sense is that Bama is

500
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Speaker 1: up for this game, that they're still better than Tennessee.

501
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Speaker 1: But doesn't it feel like there's something missing from Alabama?

502
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Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like from what we've seen so far,

503
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Speaker 1: there is an extra gear to Alabama that we have

504
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Speaker 1: grown accustomed to and yet have not seen so far

505
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Speaker 1: this season. I suspect in previous iterations of the Crimson

506
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: tide at twenty to nineteen game against Texas is not

507
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Speaker 1: something you would see. They would find a way to

508
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: hit the after burners late and sort of have a

509
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: fourth quarter crock potting. They'd run away from them. Even

510
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Speaker 1: in that A and M game that we saw, even

511
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Speaker 1: with a backup in Jalen Milroe, you would find an

512
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: extra gear and they would zoom past like the yellow

513
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: car and rc pro am my favorite analogy. They would

514
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: find a way to zoom past and win that game

515
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: going away two instances now where we have not really

516
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: seen that from Alabama, where I think we would have

517
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: seen that in the past. So my inclination is both

518
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: teams are going to score. This is going to be

519
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: close going into the fourth quarter. I want to and

520
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: will take Tennessee plus the number seven and a half.

521
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Speaker 1: Tennessee's winning this game out right? What who oh.

522
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Speaker 2: Tennessee's winning this game out right, which is not a

523
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: controversial take at all. It's not they have one of

524
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Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks. They're playing at home. I don't know

525
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: what Cedric Tillman's status is right now, but there are

526
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: other guys running the ball, catching the ball. Jalen High

527
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 2: like good players that have succeeded against everybody. I think

528
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: the defense is in a pretty good place, not without

529
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: its own flaws. How many seconds away is Alabama from

530
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: having two losses at the start of October?

531
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Speaker 1: No?

532
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: Eight four seconds? Like this is not an Alabama team

533
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: that has been bulletproof. Now they were what they were

534
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: up five points relatively laid against Arkansas, and they pull

535
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: out that game and quite literally run away with that game.

536
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: The Texas game is close on the road, and of

537
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: course the A and M game was close with a

538
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Speaker 2: backup quarterback at home. Brace Young is probably talking me

539
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. He does not have the firepower that

540
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: Mac Jones and two ahead at receiver, good players. It's

541
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: got a very good running back, Jamior Gibbs, offensive line

542
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: up and down, defense really strong. I just I don't know, Ty,

543
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: if you're not going to believe in Tennessee and neland

544
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: with game day there and the Sea of Orange, why

545
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: have a heart? Why have something occupying the cavity beneath

546
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: your ribs at this moment?

547
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Speaker 1: Ty? Yeah, you claim to be Ted Lasso esque. Where's

548
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: your belief? Oh, Tennessee, you can nicoles making get out

549
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: of here. Tennessee is winning this game, Tay.

550
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: You know how I want that to happen. There's want

551
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: that to happen. Yeah, l r oh luck runs out

552
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 2: for Alabama in this Situationally, I just like Tennessee. I

553
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: like big plays, I like energy, I like smokey. I'm

554
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm going with the balls here. I think this is

555
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: their moment to shine and I think they're going to

556
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: rise to the occasion. Henon Hooker's thirty three years old. Yeah, now,

557
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: this is Tennessee's winning this game. I feel really good

558
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: about it.

559
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Speaker 1: I am very excited about that pick. Can you imagine

560
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: doing this show on Sunday when we record our recap

561
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: talking about Tennessee knocking off Alabama? Yeah, of course I

562
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: can imagine. Think of how I can imagine too, But

563
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: think of how that will alter the landscape of college football.

564
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: That will change so much in such a short period

565
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: of time. I think we're made in an agreement. We're

566
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Speaker 1: in agreement on Tennessee plus seven and a half. I

567
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: am not I willing to go as far as you,

568
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 1: but we both feel pretty good about the valls here

569
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Speaker 1: at home.

570
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: See is this should be a Samsonight Saturday for you

571
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: because you're bringing so much old baggage YEA to this preview.

572
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: I am, I am. It's hard to go against Bama.

573
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: It is hard against Alabama.

574
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I totally understand you. The baggage is justified in

575
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 2: some cases. But I don't know, man, just feel it.

576
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: Feel it.

577
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: Be a member of Dan's Funky Bunch. Dan's Funky Bunch.

578
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: Interesting Oklahoma State five and oh TCU five and oh

579
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Speaker 1: TCU favored for three and a half points. Guests who

580
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: picked Oklahoma State wrong last week, I'm raising my hand.

581
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I said I was going to go Texas Tech plus

582
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: nine because I've been so emotionally invested in the Red Raiders.

583
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: They of course lost by ten. Interestingly, the line popped

584
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: to eleven at kickoff, so if I had waited a

585
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: few days, I would have been right. But alas, here

586
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: we go again. Another mom team gets me. Just the

587
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: way it is, yeah, the way this thing works. This

588
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: is a monster freaking game. Dan, what's the number once again?

589
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: Three and a half? Three, three and a half. It's

590
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: stayed at three and a half. Okay, this is a

591
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: monster game. Are you kidding me? That's huge? What a game?

592
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: What a freaking game? Only two teams unbeaten in the

593
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: Big Twelve. Both of these teams get an early Big

594
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: Twelve championship of sorts. I was surprised to see TCU favored. Okay,

595
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: it feels like we know a lot more about Oklahoma

596
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: State at this point. TCU's vastly improved still might not

597
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: be that good, frankly, but could just be that they

598
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: have a ball er offense. I don't know such a hater. Ty, Look,

599
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: I got a call the way I see it, I'm

600
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: not sure about TCU. I feel like we know more

601
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: about Oklahoma State at this point. The interesting angle to

602
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: me is that TCU's numbers look a lot like previous

603
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: Oklahoma teams. So can we call this one to Facto Bedlam?

604
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: God so insulting to everybody? Can we call it to

605
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Facto Bedlam's your show, you can call whatever you want.

606
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm calling it to Facto Bedlam. Okay, into Facto Bedlam.

607
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: You got to throw out the records. They have the

608
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: same records, so throw them out anyway, throw them out

609
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 1: at you. Where do you stand on to Facto Bedlam?

610
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: I'm still going with who I trust, and that's Spencer

611
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: Sanders in this specific spot. A little bit more now,

612
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: The underlying number that's interesting to me is both of

613
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: these teams have been pretty horrific in terms of allowing

614
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: bigger passes, bigger pass plays, downfield, explosive passes. And then

615
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: you say, all right, who do you trust to hang more?

616
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: And I like Oklahoma States receivers. I really like TCU's receivers.

617
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: A clear number one hasn't fully consistently emerged for Oklahoma

618
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: State and the way that I think Quentin Johnston has

619
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: for TCU, like he is the clear most dangerous receiver

620
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: for the Frogs. But the Oklahoma win hasn't aged especially well.

621
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma hasn't, aside from that game, been strong, So we

622
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: have to devalue that a little bit. That if Vegas

623
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: thought TCU was legit, they'd be favored probably by more

624
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: than three and a half at home, right, Yeah, So

625
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: there is a toss up element to this, and it's

626
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: gonna come down to who I trust more at quarterback.

627
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: I think this is a high scoring affair, but ultimately

628
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: I like Oklahoma State to win this game by four

629
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: or five.

630
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: It's about I have it.

631
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: I have it at forty five forty Oklahoma State.

632
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about trust, babe, Yeah, it's about it's about trust.

633
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what we have with TCU yet. That

634
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: that's sort of my hesitance. I think you're speaking to it.

635
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're good, they're better, they can score.

636
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: I think they're good. I think they're good. I'm not sure.

637
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that honestly. So I'm with you.

638
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm with Oklahoma State going bad mom team.

639
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: But the Okay, So some of the numbers that convinced

640
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: me that TCU is good is they are one of

641
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 2: the surest tackling teams in the country. Right, it's effort,

642
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: it's execution, it's teaching. I appreciate that after the calamity

643
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: that was the TCU defense last year. They don't commit

644
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: a ton of penalties, especially on the offensive line. They're

645
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: not turning first and five into first and fifteen, so

646
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: they don't shoot themselves in the foot that much. Also,

647
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: they're I think one hundred percent against the spread. Yeah,

648
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: that's the case for I don't think a team like

649
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: tc WH is going to be one hundred percent all

650
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: season long. That they're performing well, they're outperforming expectations, external expectations.

651
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 2: I think they're a good team. They do the things

652
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: that good teams do. I think Oklahoma State is just

653
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: a little bit more seasoned and a little bit more trustworthy,

654
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: even on the road.

655
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the case against TCU is that

656
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: as one of the most explosive teams in college football,

657
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: eventually they're going to run into a team. I don't

658
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: think they're going undefeated. Eventually, they're going to run into

659
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: a team that can stop them that team may not

660
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: be Oklahoma State. The numbers would say that team is

661
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: definitely not Oklahoma State. But Sunny Dykes himself has said

662
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: that this offense is heavily geared around creating big plays,

663
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: which is very predictive of success. You generate big plays

664
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: are going to do well, you're generally gonna have a

665
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: pretty good season. I don't know if Oklahoma State can

666
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: stop them this week, but somebody will at some point.

667
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: And when they do, I think TCU is going to

668
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: be vulnerable because the defense, albeit much better as a

669
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: tackling unit, is still not something that strikes the fear

670
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: of God into me. Yeah, all right, I'm with you

671
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: on Oklahoma State. Let's move to NC State versus Syracuse.

672
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Speaking of weird lines, Yeah, Syracuse favored by three and

673
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: a half. They're at home, They're playing in the JMA

674
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: Wireless Dome where teams go to die. We know that

675
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: if you are surprised to see Syracuse favored, the reason

676
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: is because of Devon Leary. Devon Leary has an arm

677
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: slash shoulder injury. They took X rays, the X rays

678
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: came back negative, so it's not a situation where he's

679
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: going to be done for the year, but it is

680
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: a situation that's going to be touch and go the

681
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: rest of the way. It's unclear to me what his

682
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: status is in this game or moving forward. I think

683
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be Jack Chambers. Okay, he's a transfer

684
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: from Charleston Southern. He played a little bit on Saturday

685
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: against Florida State, oh for one passing but seven rushes

686
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: for about forty yards. So that's a stroke of good

687
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: fortune for the Qus. Yeah. That said, it's not like

688
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: the NC State offense has been humminata at a pretty

689
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: good clip either way, right, Like, this is not an

690
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: offense it's been all that good. I am rooting for

691
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: the Syracuse story here. I love the Qus. I almost

692
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: went to school there. Wow. In the games that I've watched,

693
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: I have come away underwhelmed. I've been underwhelmed by this team,

694
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: totally reasonable. Their best win was Perdue, which, as we

695
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: talked about earlier, is is looking better looking like a

696
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: decent win for anybody who has it. But otherwise it's uh,

697
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a lot of bad teams and

698
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: this game I think is the start of a six

699
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: game stretch that's going to test him. NC State at Clemson,

700
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: Notre Dame at pitt Florida State at Wake Forest next

701
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: six games. I also think Garrett Strader kind of stinks

702
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: as a passer. Okay, fair enough. I know the numbers

703
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: are really good this year. I know what they are,

704
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: I know the ratio. I'm just not that into him. Okay,

705
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm not that into him. I think NC State, even

706
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: with a hampered offense, maybe with a backup quarterback, is

707
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: good enough as a defensive unit. They're still solid there

708
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: to clamp down on the run to force Garrett Schrader

709
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: to throw to win. If you have not had that experience,

710
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: yead of watching Garrett Strader throw to win, maybe don't

711
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: watch this game. There are other really good games on

712
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: in this window. Don't watch it. I don't think he's

713
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: that good. So I'm on NC State plus the number.

714
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Or you could watch the Purdue game in which Garrett

715
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: s Trader with his arm. What that game. I don't

716
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: think he's at to Aronde Gadson. I don't think he's

717
00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: that good.

718
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he's fine. I don't think he's great.

719
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: I think he's fine. And he did win that game

720
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: with his arm. He made huge clutch throws at the

721
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: end of that game.

722
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: There were some hygienks that went on at the end

723
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: of that game. Syracuse got a little bit lucky because

724
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean I watched that game. I remember it well.

725
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: There were plenty of instances in that game where Perdue

726
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: just decided not to cover people, so you know, and

727
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: there were great catches. There was all sorts of stuff

728
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: that went on that that I don't know, felt to

729
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: me like Cus was a little bit lucky. I am

730
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: not a Garrett Strader believer as it relates to him

731
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: throwing the ball, and I think NC State can stop

732
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: the run.

733
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: So here is the worry. The worry is if it

734
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: is Jack Chambers. Don't know Jack Chambers, haven't couldn't spot

735
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: him in a Hudson News hope for the best for

736
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: Jack Chambers. If NC State's passing attack with a healthy

737
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: Devin Leary was we can agree disappointing. What is the

738
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: confidence we have in NC State's ability to put Jack

739
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: Chambers in a position as a backup quarterback to succeed

740
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: on the road against a good defense. I'd say it's

741
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: relatively low. They didn't really trust him to throw down

742
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: the field last week. But he was thrust into action late.

743
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: I get it. So there is potential for NC State's

744
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: defense and being put in a position to do everything

745
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: because the NC State offense can't stay on the field

746
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: against Syracuse defense. And I hate those teams. I hate

747
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: the teams that can't complete passes with a backup quarterback.

748
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: Where'd you say, Charleston Southern? Yep? Okay.

749
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: The wish is that he was wofully out of place

750
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: at Charleston Southern. Is a big time quarterback that'd be

751
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: great for college footba, would be great for this game.

752
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 2: I'm just not into it. I'm just not into that storyline.

753
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: And if you're telling me a fully realized Syracuse against

754
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 2: a hampered NC State is the situation in central western

755
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: New York wherever Syracuse is, I'm.

756
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: Gonna go with the QUS.

757
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the QUS with more ways to

758
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: win because they don't have the catastrophic possibility of having

759
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: no offense and the defense slowly wearing down because they

760
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: can't get off the field. So I'm going I'm going

761
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: Qus here to win by a touchdown.

762
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: Three other really quick games in this afternoon window to

763
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: pay attention to three point thirty ESPN. We got Arkansas

764
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: minus a point and a half versus BYU BYU at

765
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: home game at altitude in provo. kJ Jefferson has been cleared.

766
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: He is good to go. These teams are very similar

767
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: on defense. I think the difference here is that Arkansas

768
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: can run the ball. That's proven to be a pretty

769
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: successful formula against BYU. So I like Arkansas an awful

770
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: lot here minus one and a half. That's my first

771
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: lock of the week. Block of the week, a much

772
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: needed win for Arkansas. Lock it up, No b YU, dude,

773
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: by is winning this game. Okay, So kJ Jefferson's back

774
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: once again. I'm going to use the same logic that

775
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: we talked about with Dylan Gabriel being back. Which one

776
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: of these defensive physicians will k J Jefferson take the

777
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: field with. Will he take the field with a bunch

778
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: of linebackers. Will he take the field with a bunch

779
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: of safeties? Will he take the field with a bunch

780
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: of defensive tackles? By is going to go straight at Arkansas.

781
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: The game's at altitude. You know I love my altitude, Tie,

782
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: I know, no, I love my altitude. I know how

783
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: you feel about altitude.

784
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think BYA is going to go straight at Arkansas.

785
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: What is the result the Arkansas result that they doinked

786
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: and missed a field goal against Texas A and M

787
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: A very much disappointing Texas A and M team. What

788
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: is the Arkansas result that they got close to Alabama

789
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: at a certain point later on in that game? I

790
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: just what is it about the Hogs this year that

791
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: make you think that they can even if BYU.

792
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Is an average team.

793
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: You saw Notre Dame play them more recently than I

794
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 2: saw Oregon play them, even if they're an average team.

795
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: What is the Arkansas specific result from this year that

796
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: has you saying, I mean, if it's that weird Cincinnati

797
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: game in Week one, so.

798
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: Be it's not a result. They can run the ball.

799
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: The fact that they could run the ball is the

800
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: formula to beating BYU. Who do they have the week

801
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: after BYU? I don't know, load it up the week

802
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: after BYU? Arkansas squares off. Oh, they have a bye

803
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: week against a bye week. Okay, so it's an open

804
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: face look ahead. It's nice potentially lock up Arkansas another

805
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: game here in that afternoon block. Wisconsin minus seven and

806
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: a half. This is the week Wisconsin minus seven and

807
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: a half versus Michigan State, I think big time neck

808
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: crack last week for Wisconsin taking it to Northwestern forty

809
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: two to seven. Graham Mertzy career high two ninety nine

810
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: passing tied the vaunted five touchdown game from a year ago.

811
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: So I can stop talking about it. Yeah, I'm riding

812
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: with Wisconsin two weeks in a row. I think a

813
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: big win. I think Wisconsin wins this as well.

814
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: I think Michigan State is very close, and I don't

815
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: know if we're entering the Noah Kim era at quarterback.

816
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: You're ready for Noah Kim.

817
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm ready for Noah Kim throws a nice ball in

818
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: garbage time, so who knows how actually good he is.

819
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: I don't know what the college football equival of one

820
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: two three Cancuon is for Michigan State. I think what

821
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: one two three Saga Tuck? Whatever the vacation destination is

822
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: in northern Michigan. I'm going with with Wisconsin here to again.

823
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you can look at Northwestern

824
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: results or nor can you look in Nebraska results as

825
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 2: anything indicative, but there's still something so tantalizing about picking

826
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: against Michigan State that I'm just going to keep doing it.

827
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. Also, I'm just going to call this out.

828
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to give it a shout out, but play

829
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: James Madison favored by ten on the road at Georgia Southern.

830
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: The Maddies are five and zero. I want to give

831
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: a shout out to Todd Sentio, their quarterback. He's got

832
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: a fifty one touchdown to interception ratio.

833
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: Yeah you got that, that Temple DNA, that Colorado State DNA. Yeah, yeah,

834
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: I like jmu here as well. It's just I hope

835
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: they get some sort of exemption or something to the

836
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: Bowl runs, some waiver. Certainly looks like they'll be bowling

837
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 2: in their first year, but yeah, they need something because

838
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: otherwise that's a tragedty, as I like to say that

839
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: combination tragedy and travesty.

840
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: And last but not least, let's go to the nightcap. Okay,

841
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: we got some biggins here at night that I am

842
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: very excited about a bunch of games to go through.

843
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: We have to start with USC against Utah. We have

844
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: had this circled for a while. It is the eight

845
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: o'clock Fox game. It is at Utah. If USC gets

846
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: over this hump, there is a chance they catapult Clemson

847
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: and get into the top five, maybe even the top four,

848
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: depending on what happens in front of them. Utah I

849
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: believe is favored here because they've got the guys to

850
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: match up with the dudes that USC has out wide.

851
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: The caveat is what we saw last week. The caveat

852
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: is that UCLA ran all over Utah. Was Zach Sharboney.

853
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: There is a chance a chance we see the same

854
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: type of thing from Travis Dye, the Oregon transfer who's

855
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: having a really good season, but a much different offense.

856
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: It's not exactly apples to apples. That is the biggest

857
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: X factor to me. U Taw I think has the

858
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: pass defense to match up with the guys that Caleb

859
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: Williams wants to throw to. They're very good pass defending

860
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: unit up front. Can they stop Travis Die? How much

861
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: of the USC offense will be predicated around Travis Dye

862
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: and the rushing offense that I don't know that I

863
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: will turn over to you to get your expert analysis

864
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: on being the PAC twelve. Efficionado on this year's Sliverrable

865
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: podcast but for me, the running game is what I

866
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: am trained in on. I need to know more about that. Dan.

867
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's another example of samsonite Saturday. Just because we

868
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: feel good, you and I, I speak for the both

869
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: of us. We feel good that Utah is still a

870
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: pretty good team. There's no real specific evidence in terms

871
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 2: of their results this year, losing to Florida, losing the

872
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: way they did to UCLA. I believe, with not a

873
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: lot of confidence that USC is a slightly better team.

874
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: I do.

875
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: I think USC is slightly better than Utah because of

876
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: the degree to which Utah was pushed around last week

877
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: in a game that if they were a good team,

878
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: if they were a true threat to be a top

879
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: ten twelve team, they would have beaten Ucla. Ucla came

880
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: out and wasn't scared of the Utah defense at all.

881
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it was an absence of

882
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: star linebacker thing for Utah. I don't know if it

883
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: was the sort of the nature of the turnovers for Utah,

884
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: Cam Rising throwing into coverage, the bad fumble that was

885
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: returned to the goal line. But you see, like kind

886
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: of did whatever they wanted to do on offense against

887
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: this Utah defense, and I think if USC is smart,

888
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: you're right, they'll just run the ball straight. At Utah

889
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: they had success. They've had success running the ball this year,

890
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: and UCLA certainly had that success against the Utah defense.

891
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm also just not that sold on USC's quality.

892
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: USC is a good team. I don't think they're an

893
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: excellent team. I don't think they're a top five caliber team.

894
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: I think the number is they've recovered literally every fumble

895
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: that's happened in the US.

896
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Plus fourteen internal for ratio, which is incredible. Right. That

897
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: speaks to that speaks to coaching on some level, that

898
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: speaks to effort on defense. I mean, everybody would be

899
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: crazy to not want a plus fourteen ratio, but it's it.

900
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: The question is is that sustainable? How much of that

901
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: is luck? And Bill Connolly some of his luck numbers

902
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: indicate that us he's been very lucky. Yeahen it comes

903
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: to turnovers, so you can be lucky and good though,

904
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: right will immediately, I don't mean to diminish what they've done,

905
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: but that's that's a pretty big number. So the question

906
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: to me is when USC's offensive line breaks down. Because

907
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is in the pocket too long on third

908
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: and eight. Are Utah's pass rushers able to tackle him?

909
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: Or is Kayleb Williams able to squirm away like he's

910
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: been able to do against teams like Washington State and

911
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: Oregon State. Is the quality of Utah's tackling and u

912
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: USC's backfield better? We know?

913
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: Rice Ecles is a dangerously electric place to play for

914
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: visiting teams. Maybe that's my own Samson Night Saturday baggage

915
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: from watching Oregon attempt to do it last year in

916
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: both Salt Lake City and then a couple weeks later

917
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: on the road. But it was both on the road

918
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: in Vegas and the PACTWAL Championship game. Rice Cycles is

919
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: a really difficult place to play, difficult place to play

920
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: and win. This is the game of the season in

921
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. The fact that situationally, I'm going Utah here.

922
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: I'm going Utah here because of rice Ecles, because I

923
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: think they have the more seasoned quarterback. I think Kayleb

924
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: Williams is a higher ceiling than Cam Rising. But I

925
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: think again, situationally, I think Caleb Williams is going to

926
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: be phased, and I think they're going to be a

927
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: couple short fields, like he's gonna float one or he's

928
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: gonna throw it to Clark Phillips in the wrong moment.

929
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm going Utah. Here, you said minus three and a half,

930
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 2: three and a half, UT's lack of the week.

931
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: Wow out lock of the week. Yeah. See, I feel

932
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: a lot better that you would lock up Utah because

933
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: most of what you said tracks with how I feel.

934
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: I also feel like USC is probably a little bit

935
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: of a better team. It's close, and I do worry

936
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: about USC being able to stop the run, but I

937
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: don't think it's apples to apples, right. UCLA is built

938
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: around the run. That's what they do. That's a Chip

939
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: Kelly system. USC is not. USC is built around Cable

940
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: Williams and getting the ball out to Jordan Addison, Mary Williams.

941
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: That's what they do well. Travis Dye, I think, is

942
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: a beneficiary of that. If Utah has the guys out wide,

943
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: and I believe they do to contain to some extent

944
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: that USC passing attack, if Travis dies, more of the focus,

945
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that.

946
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: It's just a different circumstance.

947
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm actually pretty convinced USC is a better team than

948
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: Utah in this moment, just because I hate Utah's offense

949
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: and the lack of playmakers out wide and down their

950
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: best pass catch on bran Keathy, they haven't been able

951
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: to run the ball all that consistently. I really like

952
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: Cam Rising. I'm just I'm not crazy about Utah, But

953
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: in this specific moment, I like Utah. But I think

954
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: we can look back at the end of the seasons.

955
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, US is clearly the better team than Utah.

956
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: But in Saturday night, I think Utah will be better.

957
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: My gut is that USC's defense gets a few more

958
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: stops and they win by a touchdown. Okay, that'd be

959
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: really impressive. Seven thirty ABC, Clemson minus three and a half,

960
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: three and a half, now down to three and a

961
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: half on the road at Florida State. This line's been

962
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: coming down. Florida State has not beaten Clemson since twenty fourteen.

963
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: Clemson's defense notably continues to blitz and not get home,

964
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: and I feel like that is a problem Dan against

965
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: a guy like a Jeorde Travis. Okay, do you feel similarly?

966
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Clemson's chances here on the

967
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: road Saturday Night big spot here.

968
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen anything recently from Florida State

969
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: to think that they can win this game?

970
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: No? No, Okay, Now I can tell you that there's

971
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: been a lot of sharp action. The pro betters are

972
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: in pretty heavy on Florida State here. They like Florida

973
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: States chances.

974
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: I'm not there with Florida State. I just don't see

975
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: how they're putting together four quarters against Clemson. I think

976
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: Clemson's gonna be able to move the ball against Florida

977
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: State's defense.

978
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: And if we've seen.

979
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: Anything from Florida State, it's that inability to distance themselves

980
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: from teams, which is what I want to see from

981
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: a team that can hang with Clemson. Now, you can

982
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: say that their defense's deficiencies and their corners haven't been

983
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: coming to play. I just I don't think Florida State's

984
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: a well coached team, and so for that reason, that

985
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: reason alone, I think Clemson wins this game by eight

986
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: to ten points.

987
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: I'm on Clemson here. Yeah, I'm on Clemson here, And

988
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: you know where I stand on Florida State. I've been

989
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: in on Florida State since the jump. But I think

990
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: I just trust Clemson a little bit more the fact

991
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: that the line keeps going down, the fact that more

992
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: and more people are taking Florida State is sort of

993
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: music to my ears. If this one gets the three,

994
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: I doubt it will, But if it gets the three,

995
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm going in heavy on Clemson. Okay, I like the

996
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: Tiger's here at Fairmount. I think we agree. Also at

997
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: seven point thirty sec Network, we've got Mississippi State, one

998
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: of the bad mom teams from me five and one

999
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: minus six and a half now against Kentucky. Will Levis

1000
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: has returned to practice. He sat out last week's game

1001
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: against South Carolina. That was a game that they lost. Obviously,

1002
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: it comes at a very important time. This would most

1003
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: definitely be a loss if he were not playing, So

1004
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: it's good that he's back. As it stands.

1005
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: Though, by the way, just because he's at practice doesn't

1006
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: mean he's starting this game and just not playing this

1007
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: game like he's at practice.

1008
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: I think he's coming back, Okay, I think I think

1009
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: he is playing this game. He had a boot on

1010
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: his foot last week, true, but I think he is

1011
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: playing this game. They are a healthy home dog with

1012
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: a Mississippi State team that is playing really well. The

1013
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: line has dipped under seven points where it was originally

1014
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: when I put this dock together. Don't go off on

1015
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: what I say about Mississippi State here, okay hmm, because

1016
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: they are one of the teams that I never pick correctly.

1017
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: But this feels like way too many points. This feels

1018
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: like it should be Kentucky home dog of the week,

1019
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: the Yukos home dog of the week. Am I crazy

1020
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: for feeling like this is too many points at home? No?

1021
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: You're crazy for jacking up the audio on your sounds.

1022
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: Holy hell, did that explode in my ears? You really

1023
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: are selling that? No, you're not crazy, because a healthy

1024
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: and realized Kentucky team, which they very much were not

1025
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: against South Carolina, which, by the way, Will Levis or

1026
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: no Will Levis, South Carolina kind of ran all over Kentucky,

1027
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: did they not?

1028
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: They did?

1029
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the Mississippi State and that's their goal. But

1030
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: they actually do run the ball decently well when they

1031
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: choose to. Again, what does the Kentucky result this year?

1032
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: Right?

1033
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: Like, they lose the game late to Ole miss as

1034
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: Will Levis goes down obviously but has having the fumble issues.

1035
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: Beating Florida is fine. Florida seems to be an okay team,

1036
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: but nothing great At the moment. I think I'm going

1037
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: to Mississippi State here. I'm leaning into the underthink here

1038
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 2: because again, if will Levis is back, he's not gonna

1039
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent. If will Levis is not back,

1040
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: then we're getting Kentucky from what they were last week.

1041
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 2: I think the potential there is higher for Mississippi State

1042
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: to win in multiple ways in multiple situations. So still

1043
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: sick and with State.

1044
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: This is not a money game for me, okay, unless

1045
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: it goes to seven. If it goes to seven, then

1046
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to start getting interested. But six and a half,

1047
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: I will just say that I'm picking Kentucky plus the number.

1048
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: I like the fact that they're at home, like the

1049
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: fact that Carrot home. Also in the night cap, we've

1050
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: got North Carolina minus seven versus Duke Block of the Week.

1051
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: You love your Duchies three dragons here, Dan, I like

1052
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina.

1053
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I actually really love North Carolina as well. Potential

1054
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 2: for letdown after that late emotional win against Miami last week.

1055
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean rivalry game here, which, for whatever that's worth.

1056
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: In a Duke North Carolina football matchup, we can note

1057
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: North Carolina is a flawed team. They are a better

1058
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: team than Duke. I actually think North Carolina is pretty good,

1059
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk a lot about their defense,

1060
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: and we know that their shortcomings are pretty well publicize

1061
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: at this point. And Duke's been a good story. I

1062
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: don't want to discount what Mike Elko has done. They

1063
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: are playing better defense. We like Riley Leonard. There's a

1064
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: lot too like about the Dukies. I think North Carolina

1065
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: is gonna hammer Duke in this game. So third lock

1066
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: of the week for me is Carolina minus seven. There

1067
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: is a chance that one gets down to six and

1068
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: a half. I'm going to wait to see what the

1069
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: line is before kickoff.

1070
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a rivalry spy. You gotta throw out those records,

1071
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: of course, But Duke has played bad teams. It hasn't

1072
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: beaten all of those bad teams. To inflate their record

1073
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: at the moment, and to inflate I think a little

1074
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: bit of the perception. I think they are a good story.

1075
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: I think they're a frisky team. I like Riley Leonard.

1076
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, getting by Northwestern seem more impressive in the

1077
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: moment because of Northwestern beating Nebraska losing to Georgia Tech

1078
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: does not strike me as something that you want on

1079
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: your resume in twenty twenty two, even with the interim

1080
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 2: status situation. I just I'm not there yet with Duke,

1081
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: So give me North Carolina. I think I think Drake

1082
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: May has himself a nice day.

1083
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: Final two games, dan Washington State squaring off against Oregon State.

1084
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: Oregon State favored by three and a half. Who you like.

1085
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: If you need a miracle to beat Stanford, I'm not

1086
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: with you. I'm going Wazoo here. I think they're gonna

1087
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: be able to run the ball. I like, but don't

1088
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: love Cameron Ward still. I still don't think he's fully

1089
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: trusted to go downfield. But the turnover issues, quarterback health,

1090
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: there are too many reasons right now for me to

1091
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: be a little bit doubtful on Oregon State, even though

1092
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: it's in Corvallis, Is it not?

1093
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: It is in Corvallis.

1094
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, second straight game for Wazoo on the road after

1095
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: the USC game. I'm still going with Wazoo here just

1096
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: because I think they're the more dependable, better team, and

1097
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: you're one of Jake Dickard.

1098
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. The chance Nolan's situation remains to be seen, and

1099
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: so because of his injury status, he's turned the ball

1100
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: over a lot this year. To be fair, I think

1101
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: I go Wazu as well. I don't feel confident, would

1102
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: not this would not be a money.

1103
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: I like the Wazoo defense. I think that's the difference

1104
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: maker in this game. And also there's the letdown potential

1105
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: after the miracle against Stanford last week.

1106
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: I just I'm Wazoo here. Final game. We've got LSU

1107
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: at four and two Florida at four and two to

1108
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: close things off here in the nightcap seven pm ESPN.

1109
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: Florida favored by three. Dan. This is a total coin

1110
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: flip to me, total coin flip. It's been a while

1111
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: since I looked at Florida's numbers. The per play data

1112
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: on Florida is absolutely dreadful Florida. The per play data

1113
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: hates Florida's defense, just hates can't stand him. I'm gonna

1114
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: go Lsu here because I think the defense is a

1115
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: little better. I think Jayden Daniels is a little bit

1116
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: more trustworthy. Honestly, you could tell me that Florida wins

1117
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: by a thousand, or that LSU wins by a thousand,

1118
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 1: or by a thousandth of a point, and I would

1119
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: believe you one way or the other. I have no

1120
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: lean whatsoever in this game. You know.

1121
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: I hate citing almost wins as a reason to trust

1122
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: a team, you know, I hate that and Florida. How

1123
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: Florida performed against Tennessee, to me right now might be

1124
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 2: more impressive.

1125
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: Now.

1126
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: Look, LSU in the way that they close out the

1127
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 2: Missippi State game is their own game, their own game.

1128
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: But they're on the road in a tough place to play,

1129
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: in a rivalry spot. Yes, I consider this to be

1130
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: a rivalry whatever.

1131
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm willing with Florida at home.

1132
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be able to run the

1133
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: ball enough that LSU, after what could have been a

1134
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: very likely lost to Auburn, I already have to paint

1135
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: my face because of that loss. So maybe I'm just

1136
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: unnecessarily down on LSU and their inability to close and

1137
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 2: cover that game. But I'm going with Florida here, even

1138
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: though I do not trust either one of these teams.

1139
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: Ls you just got shellacked by Tennessee, So if you

1140
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: believe in any sort of common opponent, thinking, Florida performed

1141
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: better against the Balls. But even still, I hate this game.

1142
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Florida because it's at home in a

1143
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: difficult place to play against LSU team who's reeling.

1144
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if this is a fad and Ashanti

1145
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: in about trust type of game, Yeah, Florida's been running

1146
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: the ball well, Florida's been running the ball well, I

1147
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: think eg LSU. If it's about trust, I think I

1148
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: trust them a little bit more. But absolute coin flip

1149
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: to me. That's all I got there. There are a

1150
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: bunch of other games, don't at us. There are a

1151
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: bunch of other games that we just don't have time

1152
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: to cover here. This is a really loaded slate of

1153
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: games in week seven. If we did not cover one

1154
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: of the games that is important to you, please write

1155
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: in let us know your pick. We'd love to hear

1156
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: who your pick is for that game. We'll do our

1157
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: best to try and retweet that stuff out because again,

1158
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: it really just is a loaded slate of games here

1159
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: on on smrgas board on SAT maybe on Samsonit Saturday.

1160
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: Kind of accommodation of all.

1161
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: Three Nebraska's playing Purdue, which, say what you will about Nebraska,

1162
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: they are tied with Purdue and Illinois at the top

1163
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: of the Big Ten West at the moment. Yeah, so

1164
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean that might be a word wild game two Monitor,

1165
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: just because those teams tend to play in weird games.

1166
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: As Nebraska needed to come back and beat Rutgers Ole Miss, Auburn,

1167
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: Ole Miss is hosting Auburn. I'm not a believer in Auburn.

1168
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: I think Ole Miss is in a really nice spot

1169
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: to win this game again, though Auburn's played in some

1170
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: weird ones. Monitor. That one Baylor West Virginia is Thursday night,

1171
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: So tonight if you're listening to this the first day

1172
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: of the public release, that could be fun. Navy SMU

1173
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 2: Friday evening, you want to quickly drop some Drummond Fife

1174
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: and drummer five?

1175
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: Who do we got? Who do we Got? Who do

1176
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: we got? Dan?

1177
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: A pretty horrific game, and Colgate Army. But give me

1178
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: the United States Army to take down the Gators.

1179
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: You I will go army as well, take down the Gators.

1180
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: Yes, your Bucknell Bison traveling to the Yalees in the

1181
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: IVY the IVY Patriot League matchup.

1182
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: Bucknell was booed lustily at the New York Live Show

1183
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: and we brought up buck Now, so give me the Yalees.

1184
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: Gotta go yale I'm going Yell as well. It's great

1185
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: pizza town. I've never been to New Haven, No, and

1186
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: I'd like to get to New Haven to eat some pizza,

1187
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: you know, Sally's and Zoops and all that kind of

1188
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: good stuff. Modern abeats, modern abeats, Lehi Cornell.

1189
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: Gotta go Nellies. Give me the Nellies.

1190
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: I am going as well. Stonybrook Fighting Stones against Fordham,

1191
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: New York's one true team, Fordham. Do you smell an upset?

1192
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: No? I don't. I do not. Fordham five and one.

1193
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: Give me Fordham.

1194
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: Any weekend plans tie surrounding your Saturday, dude, it's a

1195
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: lot of football. I might try to watch the Penn

1196
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: State game with some fellow Penn staters, because you know,

1197
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: this is one of those games that we've had circled.

1198
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: I might have to wash this shirt, which is a

1199
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: tall order, but I think I'd like to try and

1200
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: watch that game with others who are as invested in

1201
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: it as I am. At a bar in your home,

1202
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,479
Speaker 1: at somebody else's home, I mean wherever. Man I'm down.

1203
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm down. I just want to get out out and

1204
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: be amongst the people as soon as you get that

1205
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: hundred inch TV as soon as you go Hondo. You've

1206
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: been after me to get one hundred inch TV. Why not, Ty,

1207
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: you don't have kids? But where would I starts a cash?

1208
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: I have a friend, This is a true story. I

1209
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: have a friend who thought it would be awesome to

1210
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: buy a ninety inch TV. Right He did not have

1211
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: the space for a ninety inch TV, so he put

1212
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: the ninety inch or in his living room. We went

1213
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: down there to watch I believe it was a Thursday

1214
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: night Baylor game. I went down to watch it. I

1215
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: was like, you got to move. You can't, you can't.

1216
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: This is too much TV for the house. He sold

1217
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: the TV. It was way too much TV. So there

1218
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: is such I know everyone always says, go bigger with TV.

1219
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: What do you have now? Sixty five? Okay, so let's

1220
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: go intermental, incremental, let's go eighty. No, No, it'd be

1221
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: way too much TV for the space. I can't do it.

1222
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: What if you ever finish your basement, will you go

1223
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: eighty down there?

1224
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: No? Oh, sixty five feels like a good number. It

1225
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: feels like an appropriate number for a house.

1226
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: I hope that somebody out there has at least an

1227
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: eight inch TV and uses it to watch ties face

1228
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: on YouTube. That's my dream that we're up there on

1229
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: a mega TV somewhere. YouTube dot com, slash the soliverbal

1230
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: these celibates.

1231
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: Send your screenshots in Yeah, if you are in that

1232
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 1: minority of folks who have megatvs. But that's just it's

1233
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: too much for me, man, I can't do it.

1234
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: Do you have Do you have the inflatable projector screen

1235
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: in your backyard?

1236
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: Have you done that? I have not. I have a

1237
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: friend who does. You can do that? You have a backyard,

1238
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: do you have a patio? And just I'm not into it, man,

1239
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: not into it? Man, I know I don't need their

1240
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: mega projection screen or the mega viewing screen to be happy.

1241
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: All right. I still I'm hopeful for you. Solid verbal

1242
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com as always is the email you

1243
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: have comments of the something you like to say, let

1244
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: us know. You can find us of course, all across

1245
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Speaker 1: social media right in. Let us know if there are

1246
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,000
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1247
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,880
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1255
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Speaker 1: normal studio space to do it on this Thursday, Yes,

1256
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Speaker 1: October thirteenth. I have nothing to add if you are

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1258
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1259
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1260
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1262
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: Ball Blitz. It starts at noon on Saturday, it ends

1263
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: at midnight. It is the NFL Red Zone of college football.

1264
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 1: Limited commercial interruption. They only have three commercial breaks per hour,

1265
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:17,520
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1269
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Speaker 2: The catheter kid is what they call them, right, No,

1270
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's what they call, oh Man the

1271
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: diaper dandy getting it done catheter.

1272
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not gonna like that. He's not gonna not

1273
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: gonna put that on the worst boxing nickname we've ever

1274
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: broached on this show. Dan, enjoy your weekend. Hey you

1275
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: too for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

1276
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,600
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Speaker 1: supporting the show. Enjoy your sat Smorgas Board, Samsonite Saturday.

1278
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Speaker 1: Will talk to y'all after week seven. Stay solved, Peace,

1279
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Speaker 1: m