1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Let's talk once again about I've been 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: missing him because I didn't. I chose not to pay 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: attention to the news as much as possible. Over Well, 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: we took some time off, but he's back, our president. Yeah, 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: he's still doing it, still at it, you guys. President 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Donald Trump had a sort of half press conference like 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: televised meeting yesterday full of just a lot of comedic highlights. 12 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: He was surrounded by people who I didn't recognize, and 13 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: then super producer Nick Stuff pointed out that that was 14 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: his cabinet and it's just you don't recognize any of 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: them because he's like fired all of them or they've 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: all quit in the past, like their subordinates. Yeah, it's 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: all just people. People who are in the hallway who 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: were willing to come in. H Did he finally hire 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: that a kid mowing the lawn? Yeah? I think he 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: did so. Here just a quick highlight reel. He boasted 21 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: he would have been a great general. He insisted his 22 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: generals were better looking than Tom Cruise and stronger. You 23 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: mean our five star general Tom Cruise. Right. He complained 24 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: that he spent Christmas all alone at the White House 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: quote except for all the guys out on the lawn 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: with machine guns, which sounds like a crazy like I 27 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I get what he was saying, because there are snipers everywhere, 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: but it doesn't. It sounds like a confused old man 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: who just like was looking out the window of the 30 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: White House was like this sounds like the start of 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: a sin bad movie. Home for Christmas at the White House. Yeah, 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: old man President's not having a good time. But Nixtuff 33 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: just pointed out that he did specify that they were 34 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: the nicest machine guns he'd ever seen. And I think 35 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: that he waved to a couple of the guys with 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: the machine guns. So there was a particularly confused moment. 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: The Tom Cruise kind of ramble was particularly weird. So 38 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: he said, I had a meeting at the Pentagon with 39 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: lots of generals. They were like from a movie, better 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: looking than Tom Cruise and stronger. Laughs alone, nobody else 41 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: is laughing. Everyone's like, uh, And I had more generals 42 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: than I've ever seen, and we were at the bottom 43 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: of this incredible room. It doesn't sound like military respect 44 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I said, I said, and then my dad 45 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: was there, but it really wasn't my dad. It was 46 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: actually a gun, right, doesn't it sound like then? Okay, 47 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: this is I'm continuing to read this quote. I said, 48 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: this is the greatest room I've ever seen, with more 49 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: computer boards than they make today. That's great. Our military 50 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: should be ahead of its time. Computer boards, computer boards 51 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: then they make today, what does that make them? That's 52 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: how many we have? Yeah? One computer started, great collection. 53 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: Our military is strong, powerful and technical. Bunch of those 54 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: those I phone chargers just lined up and it's almost 55 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: as if they're just intending to make great comedic videos. 56 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: And maybe that's what's happening. Everybody around him have just 57 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: decided we're going to make this presidency as funny as possible, 58 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: because at the end of the press conference, they panned 59 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: out to reveal that that Game of Thrones inspired meme 60 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: where it was like Trump looking and it said sanctions 61 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: are coming, and he retweeted it. He just had a 62 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: poster sized version of that meme on the table in 63 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: front of him. Our tax dollars paid for this, all 64 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: of this, he's just all of this. I'm getting blue 65 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: fucked on taxes so our president can print a team? 66 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Was it? I really hope it wasn't. Mean that's like 67 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: just regular printer, but tile get me a print out 68 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: of that. Imagine being like the fucking intern or like 69 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: his son, and I was like what he would he 70 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: like to got to you gotta go like FedEx to 71 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: print that on cardboard and someone will be like, what 72 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: is this? It's like this is for your preson Is 73 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: this for your fourteen year old? They'd be like, no, 74 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: this for the president. For the president. It does make 75 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: it hard to take seriously. I feel like maybe it's 76 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: maybe that's the goal. It's so but the people who 77 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: this resonates with it makes total sense. It does especially 78 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: like you know a lot of people are like older 79 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: people and then also weird rich people that are that 80 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: are educated. And it does sound also like isolated. It 81 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: does sound like an elderly person without any context walking 82 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: into a modern workplace just being like they were computer 83 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: boards and this guy he's as handsome as Tom Cruise. 84 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: This is almost like when you work for a streaming 85 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: service in production and it's so easy. You just upload 86 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: something to like content Hub or a Google doc. And 87 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: then you have older executives who don't know how to 88 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: use a computer, so you have to print out a 89 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: DVD and slide it under the door, and they don't 90 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: even watch it, you can hear. Anyways, I have just 91 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: some work stuff coming up, just some shade and old producers. 92 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: You know who you are, old ass Fox. Hey, well, 93 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: speaking of old ass Fox. Ah, yeah, it's been a 94 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: long time off guys. Uh yeah, so Twinning. Have you 95 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: guys done the Twinning app? Now? Now? No? No. I 96 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: thought it was like a bad tweet that everybody was 97 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: trying to mimic. You know, everybody tries to do a meme. 98 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: I didn't really have an app. I just thought my 99 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: friends are making bad means. It's not even an app, 100 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: that's of a web page. I'm just mad because they 101 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: said I looked most like a bachelor, a former bachelor. Um, 102 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I look like a former bachelor when not smiling, when 103 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: I have glasses on, I look like Rich Summer from 104 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: Mad Men. Notably, we have the exact same glasses, so 105 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: that was I think. The only similarity is he the 106 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: one that that became like a hard Krishano for like 107 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: a minute, did he know he was the one? He 108 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 1: was Harry? He was just always like a sour dick. 109 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: I can't remember all those angry, angry white guys in 110 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: the sixties. Yeah, into one guy. But anyways, none of 111 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: the three people that I supposedly look like look like 112 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: each other, So I don't know. Just objectively, as an 113 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: online experience, the Google app is that told you what 114 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: piece of art or character from a work of art 115 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: you look like. It's just a better experience objectively, Like, 116 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: it seems like it actually found someone who looked like you. 117 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: Where is this is just like looks for superficial similarities? Wow? 118 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: Are you okay about this? Over the fine? Um, we 119 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: just have matching glasses, not former Okay. The other thing 120 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: that is not great about this app is that they 121 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: leaked people's Like there was just like zero security from 122 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: the start, and so there was just a folder anyone 123 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: could get to that was holding all of the images 124 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: that people were uploading to the web page. So pretty horny. Yeah, 125 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: it's pretty horny. Just some developers just clicking through photos, right, Yeah, 126 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: what about this? This is my new avatar? Hello? The 127 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: grossest sound ever. Yea, that is such a gross Well, 128 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't do it. I glad I didn't 129 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: fall into the trap. I know. We were like, oh, 130 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: have you done it? Now you should check it out, 131 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: and then explained to you what the problem was and 132 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: this was a pop sugar dot com thing. It was 133 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: a pop Sugar dot com. Um, I think they did 134 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: not because after the whole story about them leaking things broke, 135 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: I then uploaded my own picture. Do you think that 136 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: was a conspiracy thing? Like users are starting to dip? 137 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: So pop sugar was like now telements not secure and 138 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: then people went to it again, probably like you know, 139 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: one of those like marketing like we'll create a disaster 140 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: and people want to see the car rige. I'm sure 141 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: it was a disaster. I'm sure there are a bunch 142 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: of dummies or just like whatever. I feel like pop 143 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: sugar dot Com and I need to have a great talk. 144 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: And it feels like do you ever see that the 145 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: John Oliver he had that show a long time ago. 146 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: This was really horrible about like I'm gonna stop fat 147 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: people from existing and uh, you know it was like 148 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: he went to the fattest city in America and was like, 149 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: I want to stop everyone from being fat, and it 150 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: was gross. But he did this thing with like a 151 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: bunch of kids where he showed them how chicken eggs 152 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: were made. Were like he stripped down a carcass, grinded 153 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: the bones up, then like just show them how awful 154 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: it was. And at the end he's like, now, who 155 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: wants one? And they're all like me, I love chicken 156 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: because they're delicious. You just can't as bad as stuff. 157 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: People were like not John Oliver, Wait, Jamie Oliver, that 158 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: I wish it was John Oliver? What that John Oliver was? 159 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: Sorry everyone, celebrity chef Jamie Oliver. Yeah, not to be 160 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: confused with celebrity anxiety written human John Oliver. But I 161 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: feel like this is, uh, you know, one of those 162 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: examples of the fun face that we're putting on the 163 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: dystopian nightmare that we're sort of lower being slowly lowered 164 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: into because what do you mean slowly right? Well, it's yeah, 165 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: but it's something that it's not like, oh my god. 166 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: And then Skynet became self aware and like launched all 167 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: the nukes at the same time. It's like we're slowly 168 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: just walking down the steps into the dystopia. But because 169 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: they're like fun things like, ah, you look like Tom 170 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: Cruise that it's just like I do, look like Yeah, 171 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: Toms was on there when I smiled. So I'll tell 172 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: you what celebrities smell like. You give this your last 173 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: four digits of your social I gotta know, I gotta 174 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: know that's I know I shouldn't do it, um, but yeah, 175 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean so, like the facial recognition thing is London, 176 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: London's police force. Just so we're joined by one of 177 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: the bobbies, hey, Officer Crumbleton. Uh so they were they 178 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: were using facial recognition and facial scanning technology to scan 179 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: the faces of Christmas shoppers in London, thievery boogers. I 180 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: think they were worried about, you know, terrorism, also shoplifting. 181 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was at the have their list they 182 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: saw home alone and we're like, God, not on my watch. 183 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: H But you know it's China is really good at 184 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: it because they have like all of their citizens faces 185 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: in a database and so they've been able to algorithmically 186 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: just figure out how to match facial technology. But I think, uh, 187 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: in the West, we're still not great at it because 188 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: a whopping of the matches used by the technology were mistakes. 189 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: In the case of the London Police Force. Oh yeah, 190 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: I remember David Swimmer. What happened was fake David Swimmer. 191 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: It's not a facial recognition thing, but the dude got 192 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: caught on the security camera like stealing beer. Right, Yeah, 193 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: looks like David Swimmer. Ross, David. You keep saying his name? Yes, 194 00:12:54,800 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: I know David. Yeah, wait who wasn't. Oh if you 195 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: say it enough, is he gonna appear? So what you're 196 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: doing it? We were on a book. He does have 197 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: like a vague Texas accent to yeah, I will say 198 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: you towards the end of the season because my roommate 199 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: and I were like watching it, yeah, and he started 200 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: getting kind of buff. Oh yeah. Well once they're like 201 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: like Ross, what are you doing? Yeah? I feel like 202 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: that happens sometimes because they see themselves on camera, and 203 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: so as they're becoming more seen by more people, they're 204 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: also like having less touch with reality and fewer and 205 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: fewer people tell them like, no, your job is not 206 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: to look awesome on camera. It's to play the role 207 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: of this insecure paleontologist. But he was a paleontologist or 208 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: like a paleontologist, you know, handsome buff paleontology professor. I 209 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: don't know, that's probably. I'm sure I'm sucking up some details. 210 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: I never watched Friends ever. Um, but yeah, and then 211 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: once you get to the peak of your fame, you 212 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: stopped changing everything about yourself, which is why Michael Jordan's 213 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: still dresses like it's Yeah, well it caught up eventually. Yeah, 214 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: now he's the pinnacle style exactly. Yeah, I did come 215 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: back around. Just keep dressing the way you're dressing. It'll 216 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: show up again eventually. Leader of the Resistant. Imagine him 217 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: going down, going dead. A comment to scratch my back 218 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: and find that whatever scratches he could do anything. Romney 219 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: clips his fingernails every morning. That's dope considered. I'm Romney. 220 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: He's like superhuman fan erotica for you guys, I would 221 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: look at that. I don't think I would look at 222 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Trump fishing erotica of Romney fighting Joe Biden and then 223 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: as they're rolling on the ground, sounds like you're writing 224 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: one of your own. So Mitt romney Is announced that 225 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: he would be the new Leader of the Resistance with 226 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: op ed in the Washington Post, where he criticized Trump 227 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: on like manners. Basically, it seems like which is something 228 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: you see a lot with people who opposed Trump who 229 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: are still sort of part of the mainstream political elite 230 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: and the mainstream media. Even is that they're complaint with 231 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Trump seems to be more based on, you know the 232 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: fact that he doesn't show respect for these institutions. And 233 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, because the things that mainstream Republicans are 234 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: for are still pretty monstrous. Like the places that they 235 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: differentiate themselves from Trump are just you know that he 236 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: makes it sound as bad as it is in a 237 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: lot of cases, he's like, doesn't try to sugarcoat things 238 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: that much. I mean, I think there is some validity 239 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: to the complaint that, like the whole he's not politically 240 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: correct thing is bad because you know, racism has continued 241 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: to become more public and acceptable among racists, and hate 242 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: crimes are more common, and uh, you know, there's something 243 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: to be said for that. And he also pointed out 244 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: that in two thousand and sixteen, Pew research of people 245 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: in Germany and Britain and France and Canada saying they 246 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: believe the American president would do the right thing, and 247 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: one year later, that number had fallen to six. So 248 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: that's not great because we're at a time in history 249 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: where you kind of need somebody to be a lee 250 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: have like some merc is the leader now right whatever? 251 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Back onto this podcast. Huh reading these quotes, man comes 252 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: to the diadty side. Yeah, this will be I don't know. 253 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: He still like structures his entire critique, like on the 254 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: subject of civility and like that Trump shows poor character 255 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: and that you know, we need a leader who has 256 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: who is a man of character. And some people are 257 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: speculating that this is the first step in Romney's plan 258 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: to primary Trump in I'm yeah, in her primary Trump 259 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: neurotic piction. Oh yeah, he's just so robotic and in 260 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: Like when asked what his favorite meat was, he said 261 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: hot dog. I want. I asked what his second favorite 262 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: meat was, he said hamburger. Um, Like, I just would 263 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: he know how to nibble? Like what do probably eats people. 264 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: That's the thing is so rich. He probably eats people 265 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: and that's his favorite. Have you guys talked about that 266 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: rich guy in Florida? He didn't eat people, but he 267 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: was a child pedophile And did we talk about this 268 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: we have? Yeah, the guy who's a billionaire who was 269 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: recruiting child sex workers from marl Lago. Yeah what Yeah, 270 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: I got kind of got hushed. But the Miami Harold 271 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: had this huge expose about it. A lot of people 272 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: were like, whoops, but the guy who he's friends with, 273 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: this guy, but a lot of people that he serviced 274 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: were so powerful that they just shut it down. Oh 275 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: so they would he would go to mar lag and 276 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: be like everybody. Well, he also had a pride Bit 277 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: Island in a private jet where a lot of these 278 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: things real monster It's like straight up the stuff you 279 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: see in a Hollywood movie with a Tom Cruise who's 280 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: trying to save. The guy's name is Jeffrey Epstein and 281 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: people should check out the Miami Herald ship about him. 282 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: But anyways, it's evening. I think there was a poll 283 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: that said that a large portion of IAW Winds would 284 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: approve of somebody trying to challenge Trump in the primary. 285 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: So and I was obviously randomly important when it comes 286 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: to presidential primaries. I feel like people are getting tired 287 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, yeah, it seems like that might be happening. 288 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: The government shutdown doesn't seem like it's playing well with 289 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: his base according to the five thirty eight Trump Popularity Ometer. Things. See, 290 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: I still I think his base would still be like 291 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: it's the Democrat. Yeah, are the reason because they won't 292 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: give our leader his money. That's what I assumed, But 293 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: I always assumed they just would be that on all things. 294 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, his approval rating is going down 295 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: and his disapproval rating is going up over the past 296 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: like five days, and that seems to be the thing 297 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: that changed. Like usually it takes a week for the 298 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: news cycle to filter down into a pinion polls, and 299 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: that seems like it's the thing that people are reacting to. 300 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: But who knows. Maybe it was the fact that he 301 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: clearly has no concept of Christmas and hates Christmas, and 302 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: there's a Christmas movie villain. There are so many things 303 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: it's very hard to figure out. Actually, literally, he's not 304 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: not really machine guns, Yes, just the best you've ever seen. 305 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, guys are gonna take a quick break. 306 00:20:49,600 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back. Uh. Well, guys, 307 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: that brings us to our first story. The bird box 308 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: challenge is a thing Netflix had to say, guys, don't 309 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: do the bird box challenge. Stop doing the bird Box. 310 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: So it involves just doing something really anything with a 311 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: blindfold on is what the bird Box challenges um. One 312 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: guy in one bird Box challenge walks out of his 313 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: house barefoot, in short center T shirt and a snowstorm 314 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: while holding his dog uh and begins walking around in 315 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: random directions, but he's got a blindfold on. Another person 316 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: does various workouts that require absolutely no visual awareness while blindfolded. 317 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: Another family pelt one of their family members with ping 318 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: pong balls while that person is blindfolded and gropes around 319 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: and eventually starts throwing punches at everyone. Anyways, Jamie and Caitlin, 320 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: have you seen bird Box? And is that why you're 321 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: wearing blindfolds right now? We are, No, We that's just 322 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: kind of our thing, right, that's athetic choice. Yeah, the 323 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: movie is a genuine phenomenon in terms of raw number 324 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: of people who have seen it. It's Netflix bragged that 325 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: it's been seen by forty five million people, although who 326 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: knows what those people that could just be making it up. 327 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: They don't release their damn numbers. I did see Burt Box. 328 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: You did, you were one of the million? I think 329 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: that everyone who saw it from what I could gather 330 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: watched it on Christmas Eve or Christmas well, so many 331 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: people watch it with their families. Yeah, this happened I 332 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: think two years ago, whenever Making a Murderer came out, 333 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: because it came out right ahead of Christmas break and 334 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: everybody watched it, like it just needs something to do. 335 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: What's wrong with us that we're only watching movies about 336 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: like creepy ship over Christmas? Box Box thing you gotta 337 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: understand about bar Box did a past a backal test there, Yes, 338 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: but it's or I thought it was like the dumbest movie. 339 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: But for am I allowed to do spoilers. Okay, spoiler 340 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: alerts coming. So there is a scene bird Box or 341 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: bird Box canonically it is called Burt Box, and it 342 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: has me for like the first forty five minutes, You're like, sure, 343 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Sandy Bullock, we're here, there's kids, it's there, it's the 344 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: end of the world whatever. There's a really hot man 345 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: in the house. We like that. You know he's going 346 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: to call Sandy at some point. There's a lot going on. 347 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: I like it. Uh, And then in one scene the 348 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: whole movie falls apart where okay, so Sandy is very pregnant. 349 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: Another woman comes in the house because if you go 350 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: out of the house, you die because bird box. Right. 351 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: So another pregnant lady comes in the house. Now we've 352 00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: got two pregnant women sick, right, But the other pregnant yeah, 353 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: discussed horrible. So the second pregnant women I have not 354 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: I don't remember anyone's name in this movie, but the 355 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: second pregnant woman who She's like, I've lived a sheltered life. 356 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: I love Hello kitty. So she lets a British guy 357 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: in the house, and the British guys like, I'm dangerous, 358 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: and and then there and then everyone's like, pregnant lady, 359 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: you dummy. He looks dangerous. And then he's like, I'm 360 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: not dangerous, and they're like, all right, he's not dangerous. 361 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: And then he has this sketchbook and the sketch book 362 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: is full of freaky little drawings that he made, and 363 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, no, he is dangerous. Then both of 364 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: the pregnant ladies go into labor at the same time 365 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: for no reason. Has nothing to do with the earth 366 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: quick didn't like dislodge there. From from what I can tell, 367 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: they just go into labor at the same time to 368 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: get all the characters they give the room what you 369 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: have to understand. But when two women are close together, 370 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: they sink the same time. So I think that the 371 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: writer has made them go into labor at the same 372 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: time for a number of reasons, but logistically to get 373 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: everyone out of the room and away from the British guy. 374 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: So then the British guy is like bird Box and 375 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: then and then it's still like another hour and a half. 376 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: It seems like one of those things where my understanding 377 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: of it is that like your visions are like your 378 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: fears come real. So it's like the part and Ghostbusters, 379 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: the where the stay puff marshmallow Man comes. It's I 380 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: don't know, there's anyways. I think I just nailed it 381 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: pretty much bird boxed us out of here. There's been 382 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: so much such a weird trend of like sensory deprivation 383 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: in movies between like a Quiet Place and bird Box, 384 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: Like there there is this weird and the one that 385 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm writing where don't oh, don't breathe. Yeah, yeah, it's 386 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: like I don't know's I'm reading a different movie called 387 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: No No Touching, No Touching. That's a good one, but 388 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: about the me too movement one, uh, but just in 389 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: terms of how widespread like this movie's influence is, Like, 390 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: if you translate that number of people watching the movie 391 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: on Netflix to box office, it would have had the 392 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: eighth best week ever. It would have been like on 393 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: par with Star Wars, Last Jedi, Harry Potter and The 394 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Deathly Hellos, Jurassic World. Yeah, and it's just such a 395 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: random movie. So I mean, obviously it's not the same 396 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: as a movie coming out and doing that because people 397 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: weren't all buying individual tickets for burr Box. But it's 398 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: still like in terms of the amount of like national 399 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: mental real estate that it's taking up, that's where it is. 400 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: It's like in the world of Your Furious Sevens. It's great. 401 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Bur Box would fully make seven dollars if it was 402 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: released theatrical. Everyone it was like it seemed like a 403 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: timing thing. And also I think that there is you 404 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: can still really get a lot of eyes on something 405 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: by putting Sandy Bullock in a movie. People love her. 406 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: She do Sandy bull gold Box, sand Box. She's credited 407 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: in the movie as Sandy burn Box. Hey guys, the markets. 408 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: I know you've been dying to talk about the markets. Uh. 409 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: And it was a bad day at the markets yesterday 410 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: for you know, all US capitalists, my market. Yeah. So 411 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: Apple came out and did something they haven't done in 412 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: the last sixteen years. Uh, and it was to say 413 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: they weren't doing that well or something like that. They 414 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: basically cut their forecast of how many iPhones they were 415 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: going to sell, and people apparently that's not good because 416 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: it both tanked their stock and all the stocks. Well, 417 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: it serves them right, because I got my face. I 418 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: d doesn't recognize me when I'm tired, and it makes 419 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: me feel bad. So mean, it's like you're too ugly 420 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: to be connected to others right now. Um. And they're 421 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: saying that it also might have something to do with 422 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: Trump's trade policies, that that's the reason the markets are tanking, 423 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: But they're actually blaming the fact that they started changing 424 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: people's batteries out last year, you know, when they had that, 425 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: Like people got mad that they were forcing their phones 426 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: to like have battery problems and wouldn't fix them, and 427 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: so Apple was like, fine, we'll stop breaking your phone 428 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: intentionally and start replacing the battery. They're actually saying that 429 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: is what's fucking up their sales because their phones last 430 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: longer now so people don't need to buy new ones. 431 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: So tough ship, that's what you're supposed to have been doing. Yeah, 432 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: it's just interesting that like theyre's like we've we've always 433 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: been like, yeah, they have this like four stops a 434 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: lescence thing where they break your phone and you just 435 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: have to get a new one. But that was their 436 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: entire business strategy, and like it doesn't capitalism doesn't work 437 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: anymore if you don't just like break stuff on purpose. 438 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Now we have to make a good product. Damn all right, 439 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. For this week's Weekly Zeitgeist, please 440 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show, 441 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. 442 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will 443 00:29:45,920 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By Sa