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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. To night,
Speaker 1: I got some very special guests all the way from Inster, Michigan.
Speaker 1: My homeboys from the Connected Experience. What's that having the fellas?
Speaker 1: What's going on? What's going on? I got my boy
Speaker 1: Santoine and Antoine. You know what I'm saying, Cash more
Speaker 1: the Michigan some fresh cash. You know, it's been a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on the past few weeks, man,
Speaker 1: you know the whole Kanye West stuff. Now you got
Speaker 1: cats um actually Jewish rappers making disc records towards Kanye.
Speaker 1: The one thing I was talking about with Cam earlier
Speaker 1: today was this. We were talking about freedom of speech.
Speaker 1: And as you know, Cam heat from the nation, so
Speaker 1: he got his thoughts on certain things, right. But one
Speaker 1: thing we thought about we talked about is do you
Speaker 1: think we're in an era of censorship right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's uh, selective censorship is what it is. It's not
Speaker 1: just censorship is selected. So it's just the right people
Speaker 1: feel like you need to be censored, then you'll be censored.
Speaker 1: So it's just really selective. Though. Yeah, I can agree
Speaker 1: with that because everybody ain't being censored. But if if
Speaker 1: you're not going on with what they say and whoever
Speaker 1: you think they is, then they go sense to you.
Speaker 1: That could be politically, that could be entertainment wise, that
Speaker 1: could be talking about people when they come to sports.
Speaker 1: If you're not saying that, what we want you to say,
Speaker 1: and what they agree with, they're gonna shut you down. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know what, I've got to agree with you guys, man,
Speaker 1: because see one thing about it this for me and Cam,
Speaker 1: this is about telling Cam. You know, of course, if
Speaker 1: we hear a guy from the Arian Nation or a
Speaker 1: white supremacist whatever talking about black people, right, you know
Speaker 1: that's kind of um, you know, it could piss you
Speaker 1: off whatever, But I say, just don't listen to him.
Speaker 1: But that white supremacist has the right the state's opinion,
Speaker 1: just like the Brothers down for Black Lives Matter, just
Speaker 1: like the Brothers down for whatever. It's like the Black
Speaker 1: Panthers had a certain right freedom of speech. I think
Speaker 1: the moment we start trying to just sensor people, man,
Speaker 1: we hit it towards the things to slope and not
Speaker 1: assueing that the brands is running everything. The brands have
Speaker 1: the power to pretty much set somebody down because if
Speaker 1: they stop supporting your piece of content and your show,
Speaker 1: whatever you've got going on, you pretty much asked do
Speaker 1: this for free. Yeah, And that's the problem, uh, that
Speaker 1: we're facing, and that we've always been facing. It's people
Speaker 1: only want freedom of speech for what they want to
Speaker 1: say I'm a type of person. I want to hear
Speaker 1: the opposition because I'm still learning and maybe what they're
Speaker 1: saying is relatable and understandable, but I will get abundant
Speaker 1: better understand than anyway. I can't just think everything that
Speaker 1: I think, right, let me hear somebody who oppose my
Speaker 1: thought process. Let me understand what they're saying, because for
Speaker 1: them to think like that and for me to think
Speaker 1: like this, it's still can always be a common ground
Speaker 1: where we look at each other and say, I'm happy
Speaker 1: we had that conversation. I'm happy we was able to
Speaker 1: listen to each other. Now that everybody talking over the internet,
Speaker 1: I'm happy we was able to see that video about
Speaker 1: how other people think. Because this, let's be honest, and
Speaker 1: this world is just not about how you as an
Speaker 1: individual thing and you should never be a part of
Speaker 1: group things, because that's gonna be That's why the world
Speaker 1: getting so dangerous with what was going on, because everybody
Speaker 1: a part of group thing, right. It's the political pros.
Speaker 1: Everybody think if you black, you should be a Democrat
Speaker 1: and if you will say you were conservative, you must
Speaker 1: sell out. What if my political views don't align with
Speaker 1: either party. Do you understand what I'm saying I should
Speaker 1: be censored because of that? No? Man, Come on, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's kind of while when you think about it,
Speaker 1: dud bro, you think about it like this. I heard
Speaker 1: another theory from the home girl Testing for girls shout
Speaker 1: out to Testing and she told me a long time
Speaker 1: ago that Republicans break off they break off serious money
Speaker 1: for people to push the agenda. Now, think about see
Speaker 1: this same Kanye force for away in the politics. Remember
Speaker 1: he was running from resident before he was endorsing Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And this is the same mean that maybe a decade
Speaker 1: ago seeing the George Bush don't care about black people, right,
Speaker 1: you know, way, George Bush and Donald Trump are two
Speaker 1: different people just because they're part of the same party.
Speaker 1: That's group think. Just because two people are Republicans don't
Speaker 1: mean that they think alike. So ten years ago, if
Speaker 1: he felt like that that could have been true at
Speaker 1: the time, and then him endorsing another Republican that that
Speaker 1: don't necessarily go together to me. No, it don't to
Speaker 1: me either, because that's just like saying all Democrats are
Speaker 1: this way or all Green Party people are his legs.
Speaker 1: First of all, for you to play your leaders to
Speaker 1: a party is sick because then people will think they
Speaker 1: all think the same way. So when these bills and
Speaker 1: stuff come up, when they'd be like, oh, such and
Speaker 1: such from uh Michigan voting no on this bill, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't that bill. I can't vote with you
Speaker 1: just because I'm in your political I really believe people
Speaker 1: have a right to say whatever the hell they want
Speaker 1: to say. It's our option on whether we want to
Speaker 1: listen to them or not. But I will tell you this,
Speaker 1: this is what I truly believe. I believe that Canadas,
Speaker 1: Owens and Kanye West has been bought and faith for
Speaker 1: by the Republican Front. Well that if you're gonna say that,
Speaker 1: then you don't have to call a lot of people
Speaker 1: who have been bought and paid for by the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: So right, that's what I'm saying. Do that, do that?
Speaker 1: Call them out too? Right? But like I don't even
Speaker 1: pay attention to Democrats and Republicans because it's all the
Speaker 1: it's all the same thing, right, Like, Uh, if people
Speaker 1: pay you more attention to like what they really believe,
Speaker 1: you will find that you have you from both parties.
Speaker 1: So just to viewing some crazy rhetoric about the opposite
Speaker 1: party is acidine and ridiculous. That's just like saying, uh
Speaker 1: that a blood shouldn't wear blue, and then you notice
Speaker 1: that like now with Gang Bang, it's not even a
Speaker 1: color thing because you would see chrisp with red, all right,
Speaker 1: because because they found out that, like I would. I'm
Speaker 1: okay with wearing this color too, because it's it's how
Speaker 1: you feel about the situation, not about what you wear. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I say that to say this like, it's people
Speaker 1: who bought and paid for by both parties and if
Speaker 1: you tap into them, then that's on you, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Pub Daddy could never tell me who
Speaker 1: to vote for it because that's that's my personal preference
Speaker 1: who I will vote for. Right. I listened to radio
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I noticed that Urban radio because
Speaker 1: I listened to morning more than urban radio, Urban radio
Speaker 1: pushed the Democratic agenda. Crazy, right, I'm okay with that
Speaker 1: because I'm still I think for myself. So they couldn't
Speaker 1: get me to vote with one of those commercials if
Speaker 1: they tried. But I just look at it like, oh,
Speaker 1: so people saying that, uh, two people bought and paid
Speaker 1: for by the Republican Party is if other people not
Speaker 1: bought and paid for by the cracking party. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. We're
Speaker 1: just speaking on these topics. I'm not a Democratic or
Speaker 1: Republican either, and uh, I'm not gonna live. Some years
Speaker 1: I voted for Democrats, some years I voted for Republicans.
Speaker 1: Some years I voted for somebody from the Green Party.
Speaker 1: It depends on who my pressures was, who I found
Speaker 1: to beat more, whoever I found that time to deal
Speaker 1: with more the issues I was concerned about. That's what
Speaker 1: I voted for. And I think that's how the American
Speaker 1: public votes for generally. With the accession of the brainwashed,
Speaker 1: you listen to everything that other people say. No, no,
Speaker 1: the brandwashed is the majority when it comes to voting.
Speaker 1: The brandwash is the majority because the brain wash think
Speaker 1: that they only have two parties to even choose something.
Speaker 1: So many people who are listening to this never even
Speaker 1: heard of the Green Party. They don't even know that exists,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the brand wash, whoever
Speaker 1: wins the election, the one who was the most brand
Speaker 1: and washed is who voted the most. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because that that's mass voting just by party
Speaker 1: is just brainwashing. Like even like I'm in a union
Speaker 1: and at work, they just sent us a mailer on
Speaker 1: who to vote for. Are you out of your mind?
Speaker 1: You're not about to tell me who to vote for?
Speaker 1: Like just because I'm in a union, Well you know what,
Speaker 1: I think that's what people do because assuming your job
Speaker 1: is part of a union, right yeah, yeah, I'm a
Speaker 1: union worker. Yeah. So yeah, So please believe that that
Speaker 1: whether it's the Democrats or Republican Party, somebody has broke
Speaker 1: some money off to somebody for them to push that thing.
Speaker 1: That's why you all hear people saying they gotta get
Speaker 1: certain unions, they have to get certain people in high
Speaker 1: position because they want those people that are inside that
Speaker 1: they want to try to get as many voters as
Speaker 1: they can to sway as many people to their message
Speaker 1: as they can. Right now, I honestly don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with if you consider there and tell me you
Speaker 1: voted for Trump both times, mean you still be friends
Speaker 1: because that's your opinion. I actually think Trump was with
Speaker 1: American needed at this time. Oh, definitely, definitely in my
Speaker 1: lifetime as a voting citizen, Donald Trump was the best
Speaker 1: president that I've seen that affected the people and the
Speaker 1: things around me, the votes, you know, Like I was
Speaker 1: directly affected by him doing some things with the auto
Speaker 1: industry that kept me my job, Like literally directly affected,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so that was I
Speaker 1: couldn't ask for nothing else, Like I'm good with that.
Speaker 1: Like I kept my job because I'm a factory worker,
Speaker 1: and he made sure factory work stay in America. So
Speaker 1: that helped. That helped way more people than that even
Speaker 1: know that. But I just know that because I'm tuned
Speaker 1: into what's going on and within the industry that I
Speaker 1: work in. Well, you have to be. You have to
Speaker 1: be turned tuned the end of that man. Because the
Speaker 1: thing else did Donald Trump did? He do some things
Speaker 1: I didn't particularly care for year I think all presidents
Speaker 1: do right. But for the most part, men, America's a superpower.
Speaker 1: We don't need no punk as president in office. If
Speaker 1: you notice that guy that was up in Korea, what
Speaker 1: was his name, Kim Y, Yeah, the Kim young guy.
Speaker 1: You remember, if you remember when Bush was in office,
Speaker 1: he was acting food all the time, cutting up, always
Speaker 1: sending thricks. But when Donald Trump came all that ship
Speaker 1: kind of cease and desisted because he knew the dunk
Speaker 1: one planing. Donald pretty much came up and said, listen,
Speaker 1: I lay when I lay a miss him on y'all
Speaker 1: as y'all s been talking that ship, y'all can compete
Speaker 1: with us. We could blow that ship off the map
Speaker 1: if you wanted to. And if you notice, he kind
Speaker 1: of stopped. Ironically, a fine fact that the guy we're
Speaker 1: talking about, Kim the ruler career, actually writes great plays.
Speaker 1: He used to write and put on like great productions
Speaker 1: that was played that he wrote itself like that. You
Speaker 1: don't know if that ship was great or it was propaganda,
Speaker 1: and they just didn't want to tell he's a dictator.
Speaker 1: But everybody who ruled the country at it, but they
Speaker 1: just saying it's great, saying it could be gardage. I
Speaker 1: gotta see it for myself, you feel me. I gotta
Speaker 1: see it for myself. Yeah, that's it, man. It's just
Speaker 1: the only way people gonna understand that these freedoms that's
Speaker 1: a quotation mark in America, it that they don't really exist,
Speaker 1: is when they see it taken away from themselves. America
Speaker 1: is a nation full of people that you have to
Speaker 1: show them by them being the subject of the issue
Speaker 1: and the demonstration, or they don't believe it. See, it
Speaker 1: can happen to Kanye all we wanted to, because that
Speaker 1: ain't me. It can happen to everybody around you all
Speaker 1: you wanted to. But when it happened to you, then
Speaker 1: people start praying out for helping and all of that. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: if one person can't say what they want to, then
Speaker 1: nobody can say what they want to because the law
Speaker 1: and the rights that we have as a law of
Speaker 1: buying American citizens to be set up for every single person.
Speaker 1: Not if you don't like what I said, because I'm
Speaker 1: in power and I'm more powerful than you. But the
Speaker 1: realization of the Corporation of America is that the powerful
Speaker 1: pulls the springs and makes the weaker party look crazy
Speaker 1: and derange and everything. And it's not a money thing.
Speaker 1: It don't matter how much money you get, because when
Speaker 1: you start looking crazy to the outside world based on
Speaker 1: what you believe is the truth that those are what
Speaker 1: we call the powers that be, that's a real thing.
Speaker 1: The powers that be. That's a real thing. When the
Speaker 1: artists you gotta type his name in and his Apple,
Speaker 1: name and everything and spell it right. When he's a
Speaker 1: musical artist on a certain uh streaming platforms, when that
Speaker 1: artist was just one of the highest uh streaming artist,
Speaker 1: that's the powers that be at work. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about Kanye when I'm talking about that, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: a different artist. But the powers that be flex their power.
Speaker 1: So if you're not going to be one of the
Speaker 1: powers that be, it's best as you just leave it alone.
Speaker 1: Well you know what the thing is though, you just
Speaker 1: brought up from a found point and that's what I
Speaker 1: don't like. Right. So you have cats like Spotify, you
Speaker 1: have cats like Spotify, um, Apple Music. You know title
Speaker 1: all of these what title is not that powerful? But
Speaker 1: Spotify and Apple run stuff now they pretty much dictate
Speaker 1: the game. Right. So my thing is this, Right, what
Speaker 1: does politics have to do with music? At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it has nothing to do with you, no, no,
Speaker 1: but it does because again, these corporations are are invested
Speaker 1: within each other. Because Spotify not just music no more.
Speaker 1: Apple not just mute it no more. Now, these big
Speaker 1: giant entities have things where people can push their agendas,
Speaker 1: and those things can be bought and paid for. So
Speaker 1: you gotta look at a company like Spotify. They've got
Speaker 1: billions and billions of strings from music, but somehow podcasts
Speaker 1: and pay the bills. Now you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So these entities are all one. It's all connected by
Speaker 1: the dollar by the people who run the organizations. And
Speaker 1: I might be the CEO over here, and I might
Speaker 1: be on the executive board over here. I might be
Speaker 1: over here doing this, and these two businesses don't cross,
Speaker 1: but the money is crossing because all the industries are
Speaker 1: is one big money grad for certain people. So no
Speaker 1: matter what it is, whatever the top in the industry is,
Speaker 1: somebody else is behind that as well and got some
Speaker 1: pull all over there. Yeah, because let's take Spotify for example. Right,
Speaker 1: So we listened to these shows on Spotify, right, I
Speaker 1: listened to our own show to Connective Experience. They drop
Speaker 1: every Monday. Right, I've never ever heard an ad for
Speaker 1: a Republican candidate right now, doing election season, every single
Speaker 1: ad is for you to go out and vote for
Speaker 1: a Democrat. Right. Why is that because they look at
Speaker 1: us as black and they think that we can put
Speaker 1: the Democratic agenda by putting place in these ads in
Speaker 1: their show. Now, when I listened to other podcasts that's
Speaker 1: not run or that has nothing to do with black people.
Speaker 1: It's all Republican aids. That's programming. Right when I'm listening
Speaker 1: to the Latino podcast, when they commercials run, they run
Speaker 1: an ads for you to vote for Republicans in this area.
Speaker 1: Because it's all based on the air exactly, and they're
Speaker 1: spending millions upon millions of dollars. And the thing you
Speaker 1: bring up a good point. You bring up a real
Speaker 1: good point, Antoine, What I'm gonna do because we have
Speaker 1: the right to pick what kind of ads we want
Speaker 1: to running our shows. We don't want no political ads,
Speaker 1: no political ads. Bro, I'm not because what he does
Speaker 1: is it confused because the listener think I had this
Speaker 1: add I heard this ad during this show. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not with me, no siree. Bob snapped my job to
Speaker 1: put your candidate right. And that's that's what back to
Speaker 1: the original question, what the music has to do with
Speaker 1: uh politics or stuff like that is because it's about
Speaker 1: the entities and the companies. They spending millions of dollars
Speaker 1: on ads to run during show to put in certain markets.
Speaker 1: So that's what it got to do with it. So
Speaker 1: they're given spot they give it Spoti five millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They're giving these uh, these
Speaker 1: companies millions of dollars to run their ads or whatever.
Speaker 1: So they got some poor they got some say so
Speaker 1: when it comes to certain stuff over there, because that's
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Well, we have to run this podcast
Speaker 1: just the same. We don't want these particular ads running
Speaker 1: our programming because my thing is this. I think that's
Speaker 1: a personal choice. And whoever I want the doors, they
Speaker 1: should become to me directly telling me to run ads
Speaker 1: on my show. Right, it should be a live read.
Speaker 1: If anything, it should be a live read. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm actually, uh, I don't like automated ads. You know
Speaker 1: where bro thing he is. You bring up another different
Speaker 1: interesting point, right, you know Apple, podcast, Um, Spotify, all
Speaker 1: of these people. Right when music gets streamed, they pay
Speaker 1: a royalty. Right. I think that's coming for podcaster too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's coming from podcasting real soon. Because you
Speaker 1: think about it, this is a published work right now,
Speaker 1: this conversation we're having is a published work, am I correct? Definitely?
Speaker 1: Definitely this was a book or anything else. People receive
Speaker 1: a royalty by getting to play, wouldn't we right, And
Speaker 1: that's that's actually probably already happening, and it's just hasn't
Speaker 1: trickled down to to to the to the podcasting networks
Speaker 1: and wholes yet, like that's actually going on. Like you know,
Speaker 1: you're always gonna be last to know when you the entertainment,
Speaker 1: when you when you're the talent, the talent is always
Speaker 1: gonna be lasting all about some of that. So that's
Speaker 1: I solely believe that that's already going on. I know
Speaker 1: that's going on because it's published work on public platforms
Speaker 1: that's getting millions and millions of streams. Some of these shows.
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan he got sixty four sixty five gazillion streams
Speaker 1: overall on his show. That's worth something to somebody, you
Speaker 1: feel me. So that's already happened. He's definitely a factor, man,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest you know, probably if not the
Speaker 1: biggest podcast in the game. You know, he's good, you know, um,
Speaker 1: I can see. You know, it's a whole lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going around with casts is saying the gillion rawl
Speaker 1: just got a hundred million dollars or whatever, and that's cool.
Speaker 1: Whatever they got, you know, that's the businessman. But podcasting
Speaker 1: is to be is turning into a very viable UM
Speaker 1: product because we're pushing brands out there for people. Right,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a way outside of ads, because
Speaker 1: if a podcast don't have no sponsors, they're not making
Speaker 1: no money. That's the only money that's gonn come from this.
Speaker 1: That the UM a little stream of money to YouTube
Speaker 1: give you, which is good and sometimes and bad some
Speaker 1: other times, you know what I mean. So it's not
Speaker 1: really consistent. You know. That's why we're starting our own
Speaker 1: streaming platform, I believe very much, and having ownership and
Speaker 1: and stuff UM and having your own platform, because I
Speaker 1: remember when my Space is out right at the time
Speaker 1: of my Space is out, and I spent the least
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars on that page, you know, getting hooked
Speaker 1: up and everything, and I look up a month later
Speaker 1: it's gone. It was back to the original form, and
Speaker 1: then it was just disappeared completely, right, So I knew
Speaker 1: since then I learned from that time. I said, man,
Speaker 1: it's not you have You can't base your business model
Speaker 1: on somebody as a platform. That's just not smart. And
Speaker 1: that's where we're actually witnessing right now with being canceled
Speaker 1: and being banned and stuff like that, is because so
Speaker 1: many people the world put so much stock into things
Speaker 1: that they have no control over. So if Instagram or
Speaker 1: whatever or Facebook want to kick you off a platform
Speaker 1: and you can't have a page or whatever, why are
Speaker 1: you crying about that? It's it's actually terms and rules
Speaker 1: that you agree to when you sign up for these
Speaker 1: platforms that you don't even understand that you clicking because
Speaker 1: you just clicking through. Nobody even reads these terms and agreements,
Speaker 1: and somewhere in the terms of agreements they're gonna say
Speaker 1: you violated it. That's why they got rid of you.
Speaker 1: You don't gotta fight in that because you don't even
Speaker 1: understand that you agree to not do certain things already.
Speaker 1: So once you already agreed to something on somebody else,
Speaker 1: something something that's controlled by somebody else, whenever they say
Speaker 1: it's time to go, it's time to go. Whether that's
Speaker 1: the biggest celebrity or the little guy that don't nobody knows.
Speaker 1: That's what that's what we witness And you only can
Speaker 1: be castle from stuff you can't control. Yeah, that's the thing, man,
Speaker 1: It's some crazy times right now, you know, shout out
Speaker 1: to Black Effect man. I like the way Charlotte may
Speaker 1: get down. Man. It's actually a pretty good situation because
Speaker 1: they put a lot of control in our hands. Like
Speaker 1: we actually licensed our showing them, so we didn't um,
Speaker 1: we didn't sell our show. We didn't do nothing that
Speaker 1: we under a licensing deal with them with Black Effect,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's a good partnership. We
Speaker 1: actually about to renew with them. And that's what I
Speaker 1: do like about being down with Charlotte Mayne is that
Speaker 1: he empowers you. You saying it was a crazy time,
Speaker 1: but I want to touch on that it's not actually
Speaker 1: a crazy time. What it is is a very hypocritical
Speaker 1: time because all of these people who always want to
Speaker 1: cancel people, no matter what is for and who it is,
Speaker 1: act like they've never done anything wrong. We're all human,
Speaker 1: we all fall short. Everybody can look at the next
Speaker 1: person to say what they're doing wrong, But the really is,
Speaker 1: can you look in the mirror and say what you're
Speaker 1: doing wrong? Because the same person who want to cancel
Speaker 1: somebody has done something that can be technically a cancelable
Speaker 1: or a cancelable whatever offense to someone else. I feel
Speaker 1: like none of it stuff happened, and people mind their
Speaker 1: own business and stop investing and be invested so much
Speaker 1: in other people's lives. If you like somebody for music,
Speaker 1: then dig them for music. That's it. If they ain't
Speaker 1: breaking no laws against you, children are old people, then
Speaker 1: stay out their business. Because once you be in their
Speaker 1: business and some of these people scurvy no yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Once you be in their business and once you wanna
Speaker 1: be a part of their life and you don't like
Speaker 1: something that they do in their life, then you want
Speaker 1: to cancel them, cancel yourself about being in these people mixed,
Speaker 1: and then life would be much sweeter and much easier
Speaker 1: for you. I guarantee it. Bro. Well you know what,
Speaker 1: agree with you to a certain extent, Brother, A lot
Speaker 1: of what you said is but this is what yeah,
Speaker 1: and I really think, man, the problem with podcasting right
Speaker 1: now is dead. Nobody wants to put it in the work. Bro.
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that they just gon come in, whether it's
Speaker 1: because of they've got celebrity or because they have this
Speaker 1: or whatever. They think they're gonna come in and make
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. And I tell them it takes a
Speaker 1: while for a podcast, they take off, especially on the audio,
Speaker 1: because you're great at very heavily on your audio performance
Speaker 1: on listening time. How much they don't give a damn
Speaker 1: about YouTube. You get a million viewers on YouTube, they
Speaker 1: don't care. They care about the audio for the most part. Right,
Speaker 1: and the thing years, man, you have to really stay
Speaker 1: this man. It may take four years for your podcast
Speaker 1: to take off. You have to worry about creating good content.
Speaker 1: You can't worry about making money. You can't worry about nothing.
Speaker 1: Like I think y'all got one of the best podcasts
Speaker 1: in the game. I know it's one of the best.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. I want to touch on
Speaker 1: something you said where you said people want to come
Speaker 1: in the gag and make millions of dollars. Those people
Speaker 1: can't even tell you how to make one dollar off
Speaker 1: a podcast. You feel me like they don't know. They
Speaker 1: just hear that a celebrity might got this amount of
Speaker 1: money for coming in, or it's so affordable and it's
Speaker 1: the new thing that everybody think that they can do it.
Speaker 1: So somehow, like most podcasts don't make it ten episodes. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's pay some bills real quickly. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And once people realize that a good podcast is a
Speaker 1: real job because you have to do research, you have
Speaker 1: to you have to do everything that go into making
Speaker 1: something good, and that's hard work. Like before we ever
Speaker 1: cut on the mics, we studied podcasting and that was
Speaker 1: years ago. Our our podcast anniversary coming up November seven.
Speaker 1: We've been at yeah, November four, We've been doing it
Speaker 1: for five years, you know what I'm saying. But before that,
Speaker 1: all we did was listening and seeing what wasn't out there.
Speaker 1: Not all people do is listen and happy everything that's
Speaker 1: out there. So that's not gonna work, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's like a rapper bite in Yeah for sure. Man.
Speaker 1: And you know, you got a lot of guys that
Speaker 1: are getting upset at the smaller guy, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Like facts, Joe just made a comment about the YouTubers
Speaker 1: obviously got up under the skin. It made him feel
Speaker 1: some kind of way because you said YouTubers, you know,
Speaker 1: funk y'all who they all knows who y'all are. Evidently
Speaker 1: a lot of people know who they are. Some of
Speaker 1: these guys are getting millions of views, right, They actually
Speaker 1: doing better than fact Joe because I remember when Fact
Speaker 1: Joe was on title, they went and bought a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of views. You know that. I saw videos that
Speaker 1: had a million views on them, but no comments, comments
Speaker 1: turned off? Where they do that there? You know usually
Speaker 1: if you see a video, they got a million views
Speaker 1: on the right com you know, you can see a video.
Speaker 1: I don't know me if I if I got a
Speaker 1: feel got a million fused, I gotta leave twenty comments,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, at the minimum hundred three thousand,
Speaker 1: most cases ten thousand comments. He had this comments turned off,
Speaker 1: which means that they those jews were probably bought by
Speaker 1: bots or whatever else. This is when he was doing
Speaker 1: a podcast for Titles. Remember he had the thing where
Speaker 1: he was in the cave or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, lookout,
Speaker 1: we uh that's going on? You you use a clip
Speaker 1: to this on the YouTube? Well, of course I'm gonna
Speaker 1: share a clip. You know. I don't I stand on
Speaker 1: everything I say. Though I ain't worried about my fire
Speaker 1: slapper shot of Fact he come and meet with some ship,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I wish he would don't get
Speaker 1: mad because I see it's something talk about nobody know
Speaker 1: what Joe says that you and me and West nigga, Babe,
Speaker 1: you all gotta be to aggressively smooth. That's why we
Speaker 1: come running the whole game. You feel me, Me and West,
Speaker 1: we come take it over because we just we just
Speaker 1: moved his niggas out here. Baby, You feel me and
Speaker 1: we ain't no greasy man and West niggas either. You
Speaker 1: feel me? Yeah, now you know and thing else. I
Speaker 1: don't have nothing against fact Joe dog just stating the
Speaker 1: facts about that. I'm just stating the fact because it's
Speaker 1: like people have a right to have an opinion, just
Speaker 1: like fact Joe from doing this platform and see whatever
Speaker 1: he's going to about somebody. But the moment somebody saying
Speaker 1: something about him, and I know what he's made about
Speaker 1: because they see it that in fact, Joe pretty much
Speaker 1: is in violation. You know, they brought back the picture.
Speaker 1: In fact, Joe pretty much looked like a little white
Speaker 1: boy when he was younger. Right, he's a fair student,
Speaker 1: but he's a Puerto Rican guy. Now, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what I wasn't win the tech of fact Joe.
Speaker 1: I think he's a part of hip hop, don't. And
Speaker 1: I think he's just a part of his community. You know,
Speaker 1: Joe was raised around all black people. Let me let
Speaker 1: me cut you off. But that doesn't matter, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because if they're saying that the term
Speaker 1: is being used derogatory, I don't care who raised around
Speaker 1: who if if we're using derivator, if they're trying to
Speaker 1: say that he was using the term derogatory, like he
Speaker 1: shouldn't be saying it, like you shouldn't be saying it right,
Speaker 1: But it's way too late for that. He didn't spit
Speaker 1: out so many niggas that he nig it out. It's
Speaker 1: too late, like some people probably don't even know if
Speaker 1: Fat Joe wasn't black, so that it's too late. Because
Speaker 1: hip hop black people are so accepting of other cultures
Speaker 1: within whatever they're doing. You feel what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be around a bunch of Mexicans use
Speaker 1: the derogatory what can be considered a derogatory term around
Speaker 1: a bunch of Mexicans or around a bunch of Irish.
Speaker 1: Black people accept things and then they get then they
Speaker 1: get mad at things. You can't do that. You can't
Speaker 1: do that if you you welcome in it with open arms,
Speaker 1: and then when you get mad at it, you wanna
Speaker 1: talk about what you like about it. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: People need to understand that. Uh. Once the term go
Speaker 1: mainstream and y'all okay with everybody seeing it, you you
Speaker 1: you kind of can't pick and choose. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? In my in my for Puerto Ricans and
Speaker 1: Mexicans and all of that, saying nigga not not one chance,
Speaker 1: not on your life. I'm not you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I ain't to mega police. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's just the don be all. I ain't the Niga police.
Speaker 1: So what I'm supposed to do police every Mexican and
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican and Dominican who say it, I'm not doing that. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know you in violation
Speaker 1: if you upset, You know you in violation. If you're
Speaker 1: saying it because you don't you out, Uh, the rocket
Speaker 1: turned towards you. But but at the same time, the
Speaker 1: real issue is words aren't exclusive to people. No, they're not. So,
Speaker 1: so that's exactly why I'm not Words aren't exclusive to people,
Speaker 1: Foods aren't exclusive to people. None of these things that
Speaker 1: make people mad or make people think that a person
Speaker 1: in a black because he used words or he used this.
Speaker 1: None of those things are exclusive to one person. So
Speaker 1: whoever to say whatever they want to say. Ain't Nobody
Speaker 1: checked that Joe when he was saying nigga. Ever, so
Speaker 1: what the internet gonna do? He raised that Joe for
Speaker 1: saying nigga. No, nigga, and nigga ain't never stepped to him,
Speaker 1: nof you stepped to him, and he got to stand
Speaker 1: on that, and you are and y'all got another luck.
Speaker 1: Even if he lose, he's still gonna say niga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just words not exclusive. Nothing is exclusive, So nothing makes
Speaker 1: you something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I liked
Speaker 1: it that that was a good Uh, that was a
Speaker 1: good way to look at things. Nothing is exclusive, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Is not exclusive to Mexican people,
Speaker 1: no more than fried chicken is not exclusive to blacks. Right,
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, right, Yeah, like no, nigga, I
Speaker 1: don't eat watermelon like I do? But what Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. We are really selective in this society
Speaker 1: about who we decided to check. And it's like Kanye
Speaker 1: is almost like the easy victim because he's a pretty
Speaker 1: reserved dude. Kanye, it's not a tough dude. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna say that either because we don't know. But listen
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I don't know if Kanye tany
Speaker 1: might whoope, everybody's saying smoke, we know, but he's not
Speaker 1: an aggressive guy. See what I'm saying that, he's not
Speaker 1: a cristial pushed out here right he Listen, bro, anybody
Speaker 1: who can survive through this ship gotta be tough some
Speaker 1: type of way. And that ain't just like, uh, I
Speaker 1: beat your as physically. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: the thing is that society pick people who they feel
Speaker 1: like they can bully, and everybody do attack that that
Speaker 1: person like one to three attack, you know, just because
Speaker 1: the nigga was wearing pink polos and ship. And let's
Speaker 1: not forget that the nigga from Chicago. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying now, not that Chicago like the toughest city
Speaker 1: in the world, but to make it out of Chicago,
Speaker 1: you gotta know how to navigate. And that's part of
Speaker 1: being tough mentally. You gotta know how to navigate out
Speaker 1: of these mid West places. Because the Maya West, it's
Speaker 1: a cold world. Bro, you feel what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: what we're saying about Fat Joe is is if you
Speaker 1: feel that strongly about Fat Joe saying nigga, this is
Speaker 1: for anybody step to Fat Joe and tell that nigga
Speaker 1: in his face, don't say that ship no more, especially
Speaker 1: around me now, for nigga. Ain't gonna do that the nigga.
Speaker 1: Nigga might as well be quiet, you feel me. But
Speaker 1: Fat Joe also too, Nigga. Don't play into it because
Speaker 1: you know what the people saying, I don't want to
Speaker 1: where he was raised that Well, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what suck me up about it. And the only reason
Speaker 1: I'm not going more in the detailed on this because
Speaker 1: I actually didn't hear this myself, so I'm real cautious
Speaker 1: about using second hand information for stuff. Right. But someone
Speaker 1: said that ain't nobody he said the fact Joe said,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna stop him saying nigga, And they asked him, yeah,
Speaker 1: I say nigga, but that don't mean I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: involved in their costs. Did y'all hear that? So he's
Speaker 1: gonna use the word nigga. But he's like, I didn't
Speaker 1: hear that he said that. But even if he did, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that because he's saying, who goes
Speaker 1: make me not say it? But I don't think he
Speaker 1: said that because like that sounds too internet e to me,
Speaker 1: Like that's I have an Internet and that would be
Speaker 1: out everywhere if that nigga said that. But again, none
Speaker 1: of this stuff is excluded to like once the term
Speaker 1: nigga was accepted as that's how you greet your homeboy
Speaker 1: and it became commercial, then it's out of there. Is
Speaker 1: up for graphs, it is. Everybody's like like, you can't
Speaker 1: you you can't be around hearing nigga, nigga nigga all
Speaker 1: day and not say the words or any words or whatever,
Speaker 1: because again it's part of the programming. It's part of
Speaker 1: the program and so he was raised around that program.
Speaker 1: Then hip hop actually just took those programs and program
Speaker 1: the world with him is like, that's that's just a
Speaker 1: part of the hip hop culture now as much as
Speaker 1: breakdancing ship that that's just what it is. Because all
Speaker 1: of these niggas saying that, well, we gonna do since
Speaker 1: we have some technical difficulties tonight, I'm going to cut
Speaker 1: this short. But what I'm gonna do Antoine and Santoine,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have your back on tomorrow, right know the
Speaker 1: episode when we are the here Well That concludes another
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