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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. To night,

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Speaker 1: I got some very special guests all the way from Inster, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: My homeboys from the Connected Experience. What's that having the fellas?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? What's going on? I got my boy

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Speaker 1: Santoine and Antoine. You know what I'm saying, Cash more

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on the past few weeks, man,

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Speaker 1: The one thing I was talking about with Cam earlier

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Speaker 1: something that they do in their life, then you want

428
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: to cancel them, cancel yourself about being in these people mixed,

429
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: and then life would be much sweeter and much easier

430
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: for you. I guarantee it. Bro. Well you know what,

431
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: agree with you to a certain extent, Brother, A lot

432
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: of what you said is but this is what yeah,

433
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: and I really think, man, the problem with podcasting right

434
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: now is dead. Nobody wants to put it in the work. Bro.

435
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that they just gon come in, whether it's

436
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: because of they've got celebrity or because they have this

437
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: or whatever. They think they're gonna come in and make

438
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. And I tell them it takes a

439
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: while for a podcast, they take off, especially on the audio,

440
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: because you're great at very heavily on your audio performance

441
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: on listening time. How much they don't give a damn

442
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: about YouTube. You get a million viewers on YouTube, they

443
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: don't care. They care about the audio for the most part. Right,

444
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: and the thing years, man, you have to really stay

445
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: this man. It may take four years for your podcast

446
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: to take off. You have to worry about creating good content.

447
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: You can't worry about making money. You can't worry about nothing.

448
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: Like I think y'all got one of the best podcasts

449
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: in the game. I know it's one of the best.

450
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. I want to touch on

451
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: something you said where you said people want to come

452
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: in the gag and make millions of dollars. Those people

453
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: can't even tell you how to make one dollar off

454
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: a podcast. You feel me like they don't know. They

455
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: just hear that a celebrity might got this amount of

456
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: money for coming in, or it's so affordable and it's

457
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: the new thing that everybody think that they can do it.

458
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: So somehow, like most podcasts don't make it ten episodes. Hey,

459
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: let's pay some bills real quickly. You know what I'm saying,

460
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: And once people realize that a good podcast is a

461
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: real job because you have to do research, you have

462
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: to you have to do everything that go into making

463
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: something good, and that's hard work. Like before we ever

464
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: cut on the mics, we studied podcasting and that was

465
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: years ago. Our our podcast anniversary coming up November seven.

466
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: We've been at yeah, November four, We've been doing it

467
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: for five years, you know what I'm saying. But before that,

468
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: all we did was listening and seeing what wasn't out there.

469
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: Not all people do is listen and happy everything that's

470
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: out there. So that's not gonna work, you know what

471
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's like a rapper bite in Yeah for sure. Man.

472
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: And you know, you got a lot of guys that

473
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: are getting upset at the smaller guy, so to speak.

474
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: Like facts, Joe just made a comment about the YouTubers

475
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: obviously got up under the skin. It made him feel

476
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: some kind of way because you said YouTubers, you know,

477
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: funk y'all who they all knows who y'all are. Evidently

478
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people know who they are. Some of

479
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: these guys are getting millions of views, right, They actually

480
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: doing better than fact Joe because I remember when Fact

481
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: Joe was on title, they went and bought a whole

482
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: bunch of views. You know that. I saw videos that

483
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: had a million views on them, but no comments, comments

484
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: turned off? Where they do that there? You know usually

485
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: if you see a video, they got a million views

486
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: on the right com you know, you can see a video.

487
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't know me if I if I got a

488
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: feel got a million fused, I gotta leave twenty comments,

489
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, at the minimum hundred three thousand,

490
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: most cases ten thousand comments. He had this comments turned off,

491
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: which means that they those jews were probably bought by

492
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: bots or whatever else. This is when he was doing

493
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: a podcast for Titles. Remember he had the thing where

494
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: he was in the cave or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, lookout,

495
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: we uh that's going on? You you use a clip

496
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: to this on the YouTube? Well, of course I'm gonna

497
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: share a clip. You know. I don't I stand on

498
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: everything I say. Though I ain't worried about my fire

499
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: slapper shot of Fact he come and meet with some ship,

500
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I wish he would don't get

501
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: mad because I see it's something talk about nobody know

502
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: what Joe says that you and me and West nigga, Babe,

503
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: you all gotta be to aggressively smooth. That's why we

504
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: come running the whole game. You feel me, Me and West,

505
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: we come take it over because we just we just

506
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: moved his niggas out here. Baby, You feel me and

507
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: we ain't no greasy man and West niggas either. You

508
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: feel me? Yeah, now you know and thing else. I

509
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: don't have nothing against fact Joe dog just stating the

510
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: facts about that. I'm just stating the fact because it's

511
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: like people have a right to have an opinion, just

512
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: like fact Joe from doing this platform and see whatever

513
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: he's going to about somebody. But the moment somebody saying

514
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: something about him, and I know what he's made about

515
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: because they see it that in fact, Joe pretty much

516
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: is in violation. You know, they brought back the picture.

517
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: In fact, Joe pretty much looked like a little white

518
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: boy when he was younger. Right, he's a fair student,

519
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: but he's a Puerto Rican guy. Now, I'm gonna tell

520
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: you what I wasn't win the tech of fact Joe.

521
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: I think he's a part of hip hop, don't. And

522
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: I think he's just a part of his community. You know,

523
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: Joe was raised around all black people. Let me let

524
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: me cut you off. But that doesn't matter, you know

525
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because if they're saying that the term

526
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: is being used derogatory, I don't care who raised around

527
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: who if if we're using derivator, if they're trying to

528
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: say that he was using the term derogatory, like he

529
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't be saying it, like you shouldn't be saying it right,

530
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: But it's way too late for that. He didn't spit

531
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: out so many niggas that he nig it out. It's

532
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 1: too late, like some people probably don't even know if

533
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Fat Joe wasn't black, so that it's too late. Because

534
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: hip hop black people are so accepting of other cultures

535
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: within whatever they're doing. You feel what I'm saying, like,

536
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be around a bunch of Mexicans use

537
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: the derogatory what can be considered a derogatory term around

538
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of Mexicans or around a bunch of Irish.

539
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: Black people accept things and then they get then they

540
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: get mad at things. You can't do that. You can't

541
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: do that if you you welcome in it with open arms,

542
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: and then when you get mad at it, you wanna

543
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: talk about what you like about it. You can't do that.

544
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: People need to understand that. Uh. Once the term go

545
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: mainstream and y'all okay with everybody seeing it, you you

546
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: you kind of can't pick and choose. You know what

547
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean? In my in my for Puerto Ricans and

548
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: Mexicans and all of that, saying nigga not not one chance,

549
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: not on your life. I'm not you feel what I'm saying.

550
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: But I ain't to mega police. You feel what I'm saying.

551
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: That's just the don be all. I ain't the Niga police.

552
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: So what I'm supposed to do police every Mexican and

553
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican and Dominican who say it, I'm not doing that. Bro.

554
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know you in violation

555
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: if you upset, You know you in violation. If you're

556
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: saying it because you don't you out, Uh, the rocket

557
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: turned towards you. But but at the same time, the

558
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: real issue is words aren't exclusive to people. No, they're not. So,

559
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: so that's exactly why I'm not Words aren't exclusive to people,

560
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: Foods aren't exclusive to people. None of these things that

561
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: make people mad or make people think that a person

562
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: in a black because he used words or he used this.

563
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: None of those things are exclusive to one person. So

564
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: whoever to say whatever they want to say. Ain't Nobody

565
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: checked that Joe when he was saying nigga. Ever, so

566
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: what the internet gonna do? He raised that Joe for

567
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: saying nigga. No, nigga, and nigga ain't never stepped to him,

568
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: nof you stepped to him, and he got to stand

569
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: on that, and you are and y'all got another luck.

570
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: Even if he lose, he's still gonna say niga. Yeah,

571
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: just words not exclusive. Nothing is exclusive, So nothing makes

572
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: you something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I liked

573
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: it that that was a good Uh, that was a

574
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: good way to look at things. Nothing is exclusive, you

575
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Is not exclusive to Mexican people,

576
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: no more than fried chicken is not exclusive to blacks. Right,

577
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, right, Yeah, like no, nigga, I

578
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: don't eat watermelon like I do? But what Yeah, yeah,

579
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: I love it. We are really selective in this society

580
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: about who we decided to check. And it's like Kanye

581
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: is almost like the easy victim because he's a pretty

582
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: reserved dude. Kanye, it's not a tough dude. We're not

583
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: gonna say that either because we don't know. But listen

584
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I don't know if Kanye tany

585
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: might whoope, everybody's saying smoke, we know, but he's not

586
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: an aggressive guy. See what I'm saying that, he's not

587
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: a cristial pushed out here right he Listen, bro, anybody

588
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: who can survive through this ship gotta be tough some

589
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: type of way. And that ain't just like, uh, I

590
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: beat your as physically. You know what I'm saying. But

591
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: the thing is that society pick people who they feel

592
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: like they can bully, and everybody do attack that that

593
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: person like one to three attack, you know, just because

594
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: the nigga was wearing pink polos and ship. And let's

595
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: not forget that the nigga from Chicago. You feel what

596
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying now, not that Chicago like the toughest city

597
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: in the world, but to make it out of Chicago,

598
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: you gotta know how to navigate. And that's part of

599
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: being tough mentally. You gotta know how to navigate out

600
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: of these mid West places. Because the Maya West, it's

601
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: a cold world. Bro, you feel what I'm saying. But

602
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: what we're saying about Fat Joe is is if you

603
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: feel that strongly about Fat Joe saying nigga, this is

604
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: for anybody step to Fat Joe and tell that nigga

605
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: in his face, don't say that ship no more, especially

606
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: around me now, for nigga. Ain't gonna do that the nigga.

607
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: Nigga might as well be quiet, you feel me. But

608
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Fat Joe also too, Nigga. Don't play into it because

609
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: you know what the people saying, I don't want to

610
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: where he was raised that Well, I'm gonna tell you

611
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: what suck me up about it. And the only reason

612
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going more in the detailed on this because

613
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: I actually didn't hear this myself, so I'm real cautious

614
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: about using second hand information for stuff. Right. But someone

615
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: said that ain't nobody he said the fact Joe said,

616
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna stop him saying nigga, And they asked him, yeah,

617
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: I say nigga, but that don't mean I'm gonna get

618
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: involved in their costs. Did y'all hear that? So he's

619
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: gonna use the word nigga. But he's like, I didn't

620
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: hear that he said that. But even if he did, right,

621
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that because he's saying, who goes

622
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: make me not say it? But I don't think he

623
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: said that because like that sounds too internet e to me,

624
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: Like that's I have an Internet and that would be

625
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: out everywhere if that nigga said that. But again, none

626
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: of this stuff is excluded to like once the term

627
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: nigga was accepted as that's how you greet your homeboy

628
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: and it became commercial, then it's out of there. Is

629
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: up for graphs, it is. Everybody's like like, you can't

630
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: you you can't be around hearing nigga, nigga nigga all

631
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: day and not say the words or any words or whatever,

632
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: because again it's part of the programming. It's part of

633
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: the program and so he was raised around that program.

634
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Then hip hop actually just took those programs and program

635
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: the world with him is like, that's that's just a

636
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: part of the hip hop culture now as much as

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