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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with

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Speaker 2: you and Senator I hate to say that this is

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Speaker 2: something we talked about a long time ago and had

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Speaker 2: been warning. But sure enough, another warning sign coming from

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Speaker 2: our southern border with terrorists using and exploiting that open

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. We've got a big show today.

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Speaker 3: Last week, a Hesbaala terrorist was caught at our southern

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Speaker 3: here to detonate a bomb in New York City. We're

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Speaker 3: going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened

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Speaker 3: with that. On top of that, we saw this past

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Speaker 3: week the media engage in a frenzy of lies and deception.

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Speaker 3: If you picked up any newspaper, you've seen the headline

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Speaker 3: that Donald Trump pledged a quote blood bath if he

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Speaker 3: didn't get elected. That makes for good headlines. It just

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Speaker 3: turns out it was a complete and total lie. We'll explain.

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Speaker 3: And finally, Hunter Biden, you know, Hunter Biden had a

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Speaker 3: lot of bravado when the House wanted them to come in,

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Speaker 3: wanted to come in for a private deposition, and he

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Speaker 3: I will only come publicly. I want to tell my

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Speaker 3: story to America. Well, I ended up blinking, he ended

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Speaker 3: House has asked him to come in for a public hearing.

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Speaker 3: And what did Hunter Biden do? Run away say, absolutely not,

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Speaker 3: I'm not willing to do a public testimony. I want

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Speaker 2: First, I want to say thank you to so many

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Speaker 2: Let's get to this first story at the border. I

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Speaker 2: would like to say that I'm shocked by this story.

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Speaker 1: This article.

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Speaker 2: The New York Post has put it out talking about

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Speaker 2: this illegal immigrant from Lebanon. He was caught at the border.

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Speaker 2: Atmitting number one, he's a Hesblo terras. Number two he's

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Speaker 2: three he says he was headed to New York City.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right, and I want to credit the

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Speaker 3: New York Post for breaking this story. It's a very

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Speaker 3: important story. This was an illegal immigrant from Lebanon. He

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Speaker 3: His name was Basel Basel Ebadi. He was twenty two

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Speaker 3: the numbers keep growing and growing and growing. In fiscal

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Speaker 3: year twenty twenty two, ninety eight individuals on the terror

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Speaker 3: So we've gone from thirty over four years to one

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Speaker 2: If it wasn't for this incredible reporting. And I want

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Speaker 2: Jenny Tayor. She put this out there. I have a

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Speaker 2: question center, and you may know this answer. This is

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Speaker 2: someone that is saying the exact same things. Is this individual,

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Speaker 3: So here's the infuriating answer. I have no idea. I

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Speaker 3: many Hesbola terrorists have you encountered? How many Hamas terrorists

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Speaker 3: have you encountered? They won't answer that they stonewall. The

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Speaker 1: Is that behind closed doors? By the way, when you

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Speaker 3: Behind closed doors and public both.

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Speaker 2: So so there I'm going through excuses my head. I

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Speaker 3: They absolutely stonewall. They will not give you an answer.

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Speaker 3: And understand, all right, let's take fiscal year twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy two people on the terror watch list. Now,

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Speaker 3: now that's troubling, but what's much more troubling is the

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Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of god aways. Understand that one seventy

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Speaker 3: here's how this plays out.

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Speaker 1: At the border.

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Speaker 3: When you're at the southern border, groups come across illegally,

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Speaker 3: many of them turn themselves in affirmatively. That consumes a

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Speaker 3: They're not on the border patrolling. They're not looking for

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Speaker 3: and I will say, we don't know of this individual,

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Speaker 3: That's what the volume is. And those godaways are the

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Speaker 3: ones I'm very worried about about ten, twenty fifty one

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Speaker 3: and it is caused daily by Joe Biden and congressional

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Speaker 2: It seems that the administration is more obsessed with the

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Speaker 1: What have they actually told you.

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Speaker 2: Guys in the Senate that you can tell us, obviously

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Speaker 2: Has there been any admission that they're concerned about it

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Speaker 3: Well, the FBI. It's interesting the administrator of the FBI

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Speaker 3: to get that on record. But you know what, Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: all of them are silent.

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Speaker 3: Listen to what Joe Biden said on March eleventh, give

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Speaker 5: Look, what we need is we need, is we needed

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Speaker 5: as an orderly process of the border, not to keep

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Speaker 5: They're not vermin, they're not scum, They're not people who

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Speaker 1: President, when isn't a border executive actions on the border

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Speaker 5: Action happened by a show, Well, they haven't yet, they haven't.

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Speaker 2: I love how that that reporter is like breaking news

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Speaker 3: Well except that's his pattern every day, which is to

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Speaker 3: It's their fault, taking no responsibility for what he did.

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Speaker 4: they're going to build the cars in Mexico, and think

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Speaker 4: they think that they're going to sell those cars into

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Speaker 4: the United States with no tax at the border. Let

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Speaker 4: me tell you something to China. If you're listening, Presidency

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Speaker 4: and you and I are friends, but he understands the

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Speaker 4: way ideal those big monster car manufacturing plants that you're

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Speaker 4: building in Mexico right now, and you think you're going

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Speaker 4: to get that, you're going to not hire Americans and

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Speaker 4: you're going to sell the cars. Now, we're going to

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Speaker 4: put a one hundred per tower for in every single

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Speaker 4: car that comes across the line. And you're not going

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Speaker 4: to be able to sell those cars if.

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Speaker 1: I get elected.

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Speaker 4: Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be

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Speaker 4: a blood bath for the whole that's going to be

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Speaker 4: the least of it. It's going to be a blood

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Speaker 4: bath for the country. That'll be the least of it.

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Speaker 4: But they're not going to sell those cars. They're building

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Speaker 4: massive factories. A friend of mine, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, you can hear where he's going from there. But

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Speaker 2: let's go back to the headlines that you just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: A moment ago, Donald Trump chillingly warns of a blood

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Speaker 2: bath in the US if he isn't elected as president. Again,

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Speaker 2: another headline, NBC News, Rolling Stones, all all of these

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Speaker 2: putting them out there saying the bloodbath Trump described would

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Speaker 2: be in the car industry.

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Speaker 1: Do they say that, No, No, they didn't say at all.

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Speaker 2: They're saying, like, basically, if you don't elect him, there's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a civil war, not even remotely close to

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Speaker 2: what he actually said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, this is deliberately deceptive. He's talking obviously about

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Speaker 3: the auto industry. He's talking about the loss of manufacturing

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Speaker 3: jobs in the auto industry. He's talking about Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: being unwilling to fight for US jobs, for US manufacturing,

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Speaker 3: for the US auto industry. He's in Ohio where there

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Speaker 3: are a bunch of blue collar workers, a bunch of

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Speaker 3: Ohio workers, and he's saying, if you elect me, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna fight for US jobs, and if you don't, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have a blood bath in the auto industry because

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Speaker 3: we're gonna see jobs going away. Now, that is a

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Speaker 3: perfectly normal way to describe the position he's laying out.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, every single reporter who watched it

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Speaker 3: and listened to it, they know that too, And yet

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Speaker 3: they have an agenda. They want to say Trump is

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Speaker 3: threatening violent revolution if he's not elected. That's their narrative.

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Speaker 3: And facts be damned. He said the word bloodbath, that's

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Speaker 3: all we need. No context is necessary. Doesn't matter that

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Speaker 3: he was talking in depth about the auto industry, about factories,

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Speaker 3: about Chinese factories, about factories in Mexico. Doesn't matter that

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Speaker 3: he's talking about putting terroriffs on cars made overseas to

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Speaker 3: protect jobs here. Look, this is a trade debate. We've

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Speaker 3: had trade debates for a long time, and yet the media.

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Speaker 3: This is a great example. NBC News knows they're lying,

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Speaker 3: CBS News knows they're lying. Rolling Stone knows they're lying,

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Speaker 3: and they.

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Speaker 2: Do not the Politico headline, read the political headline for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Are are in part of their I should say in

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Speaker 2: their article. Just read their one statement. You and I

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Speaker 2: were talking about this earlier, and it just tells you

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Speaker 2: how much they're willing to deceive the American people.

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Speaker 3: Well, Politico says, Trump says country faces quote blood bath

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Speaker 3: if Biden wins in November. So they use you use

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Speaker 3: that quote. And then it says in the subhead while

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Speaker 3: it is unclear what the former president meant exactly. The

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Speaker 3: remarks came as Trump was complaining about the automobile industry, complaining,

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Speaker 3: mind you and it's unclear. No, it wasn't unclear, you

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Speaker 3: blithering morons. You know it wasn't unclear. You just want

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Speaker 3: to write that headline. And he said a word that

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Speaker 3: gave you a hook. Okay, that's all we need. We

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Speaker 3: got that word. Let's cut it out of context, go

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Speaker 3: tell our lies. And you know, the media wonders, why

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Speaker 3: does nobody believe the corporate media. It's because no real

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Speaker 3: journalist would listen to that speech and write that headline.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, every journalist whose byline is there

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Speaker 3: ought to demand the headline be corrected. Now, now, one

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Speaker 3: thing to know. Reporters typically don't write headlines. It's the

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Speaker 3: editor that writes the headline. But if your name is

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Speaker 3: going under a head line and the headline is a

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Speaker 3: blatant lie, any reporter with a shred of integrity would

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Speaker 3: say change the headline or I'm retracting the story and

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Speaker 3: denouncing it as misleading. Any reporter with real integrity would

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Speaker 3: resign rather than putting his or her name under a

518
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Speaker 3: story that was a blatant lie. And yet, you know what,

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Speaker 3: not a one of them has done that. To the

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Speaker 3: best of my knowledge, none of these outlets have corrected

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Speaker 3: or retracted their story. And you know, there's an old

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Speaker 3: line that a lie can make it halfway around the

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Speaker 3: world before the truth even gets its shoes on. This

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Speaker 3: is this will fit like the many other hoaxes, like

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Speaker 3: the Russia hoax, like all of the attacks on Trump

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Speaker 3: that the media has made up. I guarantee you there

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Speaker 3: will be people, millions of people who believe, well, Trump

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Speaker 3: threatened a bloodbath if he doesn't win when he was

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Speaker 3: talking about no, we need us manufacturing jobs at auto

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Speaker 3: jobs in America, and Biden is doing a lousy job

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Speaker 3: fighting for US manufacturing. That's a message a large percentage

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Speaker 3: of America agrees with, and the media wants to just

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Speaker 3: deliberately deceive their readers.

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Speaker 2: It brings me to the final story that you mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny how the media will go

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Speaker 2: and lie to you overclaiming there's this bloodbath if Trump

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Speaker 2: wins and taking it out at taking it out of context.

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Speaker 2: But then you look at another story which you would

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Speaker 2: think they would have reported on over the weekend, and

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Speaker 2: there was complete I would call it malfeasance by not

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Speaker 2: talking about this Joe Biden. They had no problem talking

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Speaker 2: about his son, Hunter Biden when he went to Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. When he had that press conference when he said,

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Speaker 2: I will not testify behind closed doors because the Republicans

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Speaker 2: are going to lie about what I say, and I

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Speaker 2: will only do it in a public hearing. I demand

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Speaker 2: a public hearing. And there was a big charade, and

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Speaker 2: it was in front of the Capitol where you serve senator.

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Speaker 2: And now we found out that there is a public

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Speaker 2: hearing that's coming, and Hunter Biden has rejected the GOP

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Speaker 2: invitation for the public hearing after demanding that the same

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Speaker 2: GOP give him a damn public hearing and demanded it

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Speaker 2: in Washington in front of the Capitol.

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Speaker 3: Well, this was all theatrics that it was all dishonest,

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Speaker 3: that theatrics by Hunter Biden and his legal team and

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Speaker 3: by Joe Biden and the White House. But as you noted,

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden said from the beginning that he only wanted

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Speaker 3: to testify in public. He didn't trust a closed door event.

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Speaker 3: He said he was happy to testify in public. So

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Speaker 3: the House has taken him up on it and invited him, said,

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Speaker 3: come testify on March twentieth. We've got a hearing. Devin Archer,

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Speaker 3: Tony Bubbolinski, and Jason Galanis are testifying. By the way,

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Speaker 3: these are individuals Hunter knows very well that he's done

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Speaker 3: business with. Come testify publicly. And immediately the lie was

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Speaker 3: apparent because Hunter Biden said no. Hunter Biden's lawyer refused

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Speaker 3: to go, calling the public hearing a quote blatant planned

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Speaker 3: for media event, and in fact let me read what

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Speaker 3: Abby Lowell, who's Hunter Biden's lawyer, wrote, quote, your blatant

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Speaker 3: plan for media event is not a proper proceeding, but

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Speaker 3: an obvious attempt to throw a hail Mary pass after

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Speaker 3: the game has ended. Let me remind you of a

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Speaker 3: statement you made about how witnesses and specifically mister Biden,

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Speaker 3: could satisfy your prior requests. At your press conference after

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Speaker 3: the January tenth, twenty twenty four committee hearing to hold

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Speaker 3: mister Biden in contempt, you stated, quote, all we need

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Speaker 3: are people to come in for the depositions and then

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Speaker 3: will be finished. We just need people to show up

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Speaker 3: to the depositions and will wrap this up. Nobody wants

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Speaker 3: to wrap this up more than I do. Mister Biden

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Speaker 3: did just as you asked, and as you did when

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Speaker 3: you announced that witnesses could choose depositions. You want to

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Speaker 3: ignore what you said now, let me note you and

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Speaker 3: I had this conversation with James Comer at the time,

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Speaker 3: and James Comber is a good man, he's a friend.

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Speaker 3: He's doing a very good job. I told him. Then

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Speaker 3: on this podcast, forget about the closed door deposition. Hunter

587
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Speaker 3: is saying he will testify publicly, do it tomorrow, get

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Speaker 3: him on record publicly tomorrow. I wish I could say

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I'm not surprised. Hunter Biden is playing games.

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Speaker 3: He is trying to delay this until after the election.

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Speaker 3: And as I reminded James Comer, Hunter Biden's not the

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Speaker 3: target here. He's not the reason this is a matter

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Speaker 3: of public concern. Joe Biden, the corruption of the President

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Speaker 3: of the United States is the target. And so listen,

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Speaker 3: nothing of me, no part of me. A surprise that

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Speaker 3: Hunter's now saying, oh no, I did the deposition now

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do it. I think the next step

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Speaker 3: is obvious. The House needs to issue a subpoena for

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden to testify publicly. Hunter will have a choice

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Speaker 3: comply with a subpoena or defy the subpoena. And if

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Speaker 3: he defies the subpoena, the House needs to hold him

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Speaker 3: in contempt. That needs to happen fast. Time is running out.

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Speaker 3: But I got to say, you know all of the bravado,

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Speaker 3: remember we talked about on Verdict. Also, how when the

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Speaker 3: House was having a hearing, Hunter Biden showed up in

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Speaker 3: the hearing room just just gloating. In my view, I

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Speaker 3: wish they had right then said mister Biden, come down

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Speaker 3: to the table, we'll swear you in. Let's go. That's

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Speaker 3: what they should have done. I still think and hope

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Speaker 3: they will get him to testify publicly, but if he

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Speaker 3: avoids public testimony through these games, it will be tragic

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Speaker 3: because this is an effort at off u scation, This

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Speaker 3: is an effort at cover up, This is an effort

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Speaker 3: at hiding the criminal behavior of Joe Biden, the president

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Speaker 3: of the United States.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you how important it is going

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Speaker 2: to be to get him publicly talking about his father.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to read the transcripts. You've read them,

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Speaker 2: what's been released. I've read what's been released, We've had

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Speaker 2: reporting on it. But look, there's an aspect of Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden that could offer, in my opinion, a huge opportunity

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Speaker 2: for conservatives to capitalize on just how corrupt Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: is because you never know what he's gonna say, or

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Speaker 2: how angry he's gonna get, or how self righteous he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be. And part of having a public hearing is

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Speaker 2: getting to ask him those uncomfortable questions that need to

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Speaker 2: be answered. But you don't know what he's gonna do,

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Speaker 2: and that is a, I think, something the American people

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Speaker 2: deserve to see.

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Speaker 3: It's incredibly important. Look, Hunter Biden, I believe is lying.

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Speaker 3: I think he lied in his closed door deposition. I

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Speaker 3: think if he has a public hearing, he will lie.

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Speaker 3: But I also think he's not a very good liar.

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Speaker 3: His lies are facially inconsistent, they're contradictory, and competent cross

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Speaker 3: examination can demonstrate how he is lying to cover up

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Speaker 3: for his father. Now we have a closed door deposition.

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Speaker 3: We have a transcript. A transcript is dry, A transcript

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Speaker 3: is lifeless. A transcript is not going to dominate the

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Speaker 3: evening news. A transcript people are not going to watch

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Speaker 3: and see for themselves and understand the content. The context

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Speaker 3: of this is very much like going into the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty election. The twenty twenty election. In October of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: the news broke of the Hunter Biden laptop. The New

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Speaker 3: York Post broke the story, and we saw big tech

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Speaker 3: silence and censor it. We saw Facebook and Twitter block

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Speaker 3: anyone sharing it. We saw big tech threaten to deplatform

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Speaker 3: any media outlets that reported on it, and media outlets

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Speaker 3: like Politico happily obeyed big Tech and simply kept its secret.

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Speaker 3: What was in the Hunter Biden laptop? Mind you, the

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden laptop was real, it was accurate, it had

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Speaker 3: evidence of multiple felonies. And mind you, also the Department

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Speaker 3: of Justice and the FBI knew that it was real

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Speaker 3: and accurate because they had the laptop in their possessions

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Speaker 3: and they had had it for over a year. But

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Speaker 3: particularly as you get closer to an election, their objective

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Speaker 3: is do not let the American people see things that

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Speaker 3: demonstrate Joe Biden's criminal culpability. The same thing is true here.

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Speaker 3: Reason to have Hunter Biden testify is so the American

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Speaker 3: people can look him in the eye. You know, the

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Speaker 3: American people are very good at judging credibility. They can

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Speaker 3: tell when somebody is spouting bs, they can tell when

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Speaker 3: they're not telling the truth. And it's harder to tell

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Speaker 3: that when you're reading a transcript. And so in my view,

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Speaker 3: it is critically important to get Hunter Biden in sworn

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Speaker 3: testimony alone. I actually don't think it was a great

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Speaker 3: idea to have him testifying alongside a bunch of other people.

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Speaker 3: I get there's some value in saying, well, so and

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Speaker 3: so said this, how about you? But I think Hunter

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Speaker 3: Biden ought to be alone at that table. I think

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Speaker 3: every question ought to be directed to him, and you

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Speaker 3: can use the answers from the other witnesses to cross

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Speaker 3: examine him. I also hope if and when Hunter testifies,

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Speaker 3: that there's a degree of coordination. One of the problems

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Speaker 3: when you have a hearing is if you've got lots

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Speaker 3: of individual members, lots of House members, each of whom

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Speaker 3: has five minutes, you will often have have people go

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Speaker 3: on marches in one direction or another, and they don't

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Speaker 3: follow up on anything, and it's kind of whatever any

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Speaker 3: individual member wants to do. They just ask that, and

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Speaker 3: some of them are not very good cross examiners, so

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Speaker 3: they can't follow up, and it doesn't present a coherent storyline,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't systematically dismantle the lies. What I hope is

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Speaker 3: that James Comer and or Jim Jordan the chairman, sit

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Speaker 3: down with their Republican members, that they plan out a

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Speaker 3: strategy for the hearing, a strategy for the cross examination

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Speaker 3: that they assign each member of the committee. Okay, you've

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Speaker 3: got this point, this point, Here are the questions that

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Speaker 3: will be helpful to ask, and you drive a systematic message.

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Speaker 3: That's something in the Commerce Committee. I'm the ranking member

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Speaker 3: on the Senate Committee of Commerce, Science, and Transportation. On

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Speaker 3: major hearings, that's exactly what I try to do. In

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Speaker 3: the Senate Judiciary Committee, we have done that on multiple hearings,

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Speaker 3: for example, the Brett Kavanaugh hearing that was a major fire.

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Speaker 3: We sat and we strategized exactly how we were going

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Speaker 3: to handle the cross examination, the messaging. I hope the

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Speaker 3: House does that, but none of that matters unless you

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Speaker 3: get Hunter at the witness stand, sworn in and on

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Speaker 3: national television, because listen, if Hunter's testifying. As much as

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Speaker 3: the media wants to hide it from the American people,

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Speaker 3: they cannot completely do so. And it gives the American

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Speaker 3: people the chance to decide is the President of the

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Speaker 3: United States corrupt? Has he taken bribes from Chinese Communists,

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Speaker 3: from Russians, from Ukrainians, from foreign oligarchs. It lets the

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Speaker 3: American people decide. When Hunter sent a WhatsApp text to

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Speaker 3: a Chinese communist threatening his father's punishment if the Chinese

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Speaker 3: communist didn't send him millions of dollars, was Dad complicit

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Speaker 3: in that shakedown? I think the answer is obviously yes.

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Speaker 3: But seeing Hunter being forced to answer those questions goes

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Speaker 3: a long way to letting the American people decide based

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Speaker 3: on the facts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great point.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget The Center and I do this show Monday,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday and Friday, and on those in between days, make

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Speaker 2: sure you download my podcast, the Ben Ferguson Podcast. I'll

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Speaker 2: keep you updated on everything that's going on those in

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Speaker 2: between days. So grab the Ben Ferguson podcasts and The Center.

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Speaker 2: I will see you back here on Wednesday,