WEBVTT - and Sylvester Stallone

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, My love it Ken with Randall and I am

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<v Speaker 1>on the road again, so we're basically doing this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>in separate areas of the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Wah wah, wah, not so fun. Not so fun, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're not here sitting next to me. But but

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you and I have to just kick

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<v Speaker 2>it off because the excitement is overwhelming in all the

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts and I don't know how many, so twenty something.

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<v Speaker 2>This is by far our biggest guest in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of our podcast, the biggest movie star we have ever

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<v Speaker 2>had come through these doors.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not a legend a legend.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell him, baby, keep it, keep pumping it up before

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<v Speaker 2>we tell a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an icon. He's a freaking icon. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter when you were born, how old you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who this dude is.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest, the biggest, who has more successful franchises, more

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<v Speaker 2>over two point seven billion lifetime box office. We have

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<v Speaker 2>none other coming on today, for give them Lalla with Randall.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would have ever thought Sylvester Salone aka Rocky.

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<v Speaker 3>Balboa do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's too good?

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<v Speaker 2>Too good?

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<v Speaker 1>When you told me, when you told me that he

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<v Speaker 1>committed and he was down to do the podcast, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't lie Randall. I was like, omg, rand You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to like carry this. I'm freaking out. I'm nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>like I only talk to Brav celebrity freaking out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first of all, not true, but but I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're freaking out because you actually called me, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna look at out of the bag. You

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<v Speaker 2>called me yesterday and said, Babe, I just let you

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<v Speaker 2>know something. When Sylve Salona is on, I'm gonna just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of let you lead the way. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't led the way in this relationship in four years,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know what you're talking about. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should take advantage of this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you something really interesting. I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to I call him Sly, So I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to Sly because I've done movies with him. I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to Slide earlier today and I didn't know this,

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<v Speaker 2>but he has never done a podcast before, so this

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<v Speaker 2>is his first podcast ever. So I am blown away

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<v Speaker 2>by how kind he is being to do this for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>And can I tell you something that you probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>care about But.

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<v Speaker 4>I was trolling the Gram. No problem trolling, No you won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trolling the Gram and I was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this girl's page. Her name is Brielle Beerman. She's Kim

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<v Speaker 1>Zolciak Berman's daughter, right, Okay, Kim Zolciak is a Brava lever.

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<v Speaker 1>She was on Housewives of Atlanta. So I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Brielle's page and she's chilling at Catch with Sistine Stallone.

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<v Speaker 1>They're homies. So I think Fly may be a little

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the Bravo Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>Than he even knows, than he even knows exactly. Yes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you that is great tea. I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>that word so I can own it. Producer Tim sitting here, Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, did you ever think in our entire old

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<v Speaker 2>age that would ever be dropping the word tea?

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<v Speaker 5>I still haven't dropped it. It just doesn't like feel

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<v Speaker 5>good coming out of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim is going to drop it soon. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling he's going to be. I mean, you guys don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to spill the tea. You just need to sip

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<v Speaker 1>up on, you know, my English breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is just going tound the level and the

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<v Speaker 2>funny thing is Tim's wife is English, so the only

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<v Speaker 2>tea he knows about is drinking it at high noon

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>He drinks with your pinkies.

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<v Speaker 5>Up the afternoon tea hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, I'm very excited, you know. Listen, I started

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<v Speaker 2>working with Sly. My partner Georgia, and I started working

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<v Speaker 2>with Sly many years ago, and it's just such an

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<v Speaker 2>honor he is even when I walk onto the set.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to tell him this to his

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<v Speaker 2>face because I'm too embarrassed, but he'll hear this, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure now. But every time I meet with him on

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<v Speaker 2>a movie, discuss a script, go to his house to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a film, or walk onto the set and

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<v Speaker 2>see him, it's still like, holy shit, it's Sylvester Stallone.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm never gonna say that and don't wrap me out,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's pretty exciting and I'm pretty uh. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little nervous now, to be honest, I've been nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>Randall freaking not like he's a legend. And I'm not kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>like if I fall silent, know that I'm still breathing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to regain my composure.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, I'm with you. I'm with you, and and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about Sistine when we get Sly on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>One of his daughters, who is amazing and an actress

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<v Speaker 2>and who actually he was in my first movie that

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<v Speaker 2>I directed, Midnight in Switchcrass. So that's a really cool thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell Sly when we get on, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>that story about when he called me. I'll never forget

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<v Speaker 2>that because I didn't even call Sly to ask his

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<v Speaker 2>permission to put his daughter into the movie. His age.

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<v Speaker 2>Her agent called me then said are you open to

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<v Speaker 2>assisting Saloon? And we're like, of course. And we looked

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<v Speaker 2>at her tape and she auditioned, she read, and we

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<v Speaker 2>watched the tape and we cast her and she flew out.

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<v Speaker 2>I never had a conversation with Sly. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>was too scared. I thought it would just be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fuck off, my daughter's not doing your movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But but it wasn't like that. It was the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>And she got out there and she was a total pro.

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<v Speaker 2>And clearly the lineage you know, lives on through her.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's gonna be a fun thing. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>pumped up. I don't even know where to go. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, and your fans someone say I talk

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<v Speaker 2>too much, I talk over you. So I'm gonna for

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<v Speaker 2>three minutes, I'm gonna shut up, and I want you

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<v Speaker 2>law to run this podcast so that I could, so

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<v Speaker 2>I could prove that I could be quiet. Go go

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<v Speaker 2>lock go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's we're gonna get down on into the

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<v Speaker 1>ditty gritty Randall. You're gonna have to not be totally

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<v Speaker 1>silent because we're gonna go there right now with how

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<v Speaker 1>my mother thinks can we go there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we can go there, but I mean I still

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<v Speaker 2>want to have a future mother in law.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I know, okay, Randall. And my mom, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom does this thing or like she she's very giving.

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<v Speaker 1>She you know, she she works for the Humane Society

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<v Speaker 1>of Utah. Before that she was working with special needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she's just a giver. Yeah, yes, she means Society

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<v Speaker 1>of Utah. If you don't know where to donate your money,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you should give it to. And so my

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<v Speaker 1>mom recently feels that she has the kindest heart because

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<v Speaker 1>she volunteers things. But she's volunteering my services.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, people don't know your mom. Your mom I will

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<v Speaker 2>say it kindly because I need you on my corner,

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<v Speaker 2>but your mom likes to step and volunteer you without

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<v Speaker 2>your permission.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So yes, So my friend was getting married and random.

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<v Speaker 2>And my god, you're doing that. Oh my god, real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to shut up, but I just you have

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<v Speaker 2>big ball, so I'm gonna be quick. Listen, just listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Rand and I bought these speakers. They were

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred bucks each. We brought to for the backyard. Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So my friend's getting married and my mom then says

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<v Speaker 1>like she calls me and she's like, hey, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to still get married. It was like COVID, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get married, like outside, it's going to be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking that you could bring your speakers, and

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<v Speaker 1>when I told her that's not happening. I am not

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<v Speaker 1>hauling speakers onto a freaking plane.

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<v Speaker 4>These are not small speakers. They're huge.

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<v Speaker 1>When I shut her down, which when I shut her down,

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<v Speaker 1>she gets all moody, and so I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not happening, mom, and she then tells me, she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just nicer than you are, Like, I just like

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<v Speaker 1>to help people. I'm like, bro, No, this isn't you

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<v Speaker 1>helping anybody. This is you volunteering me to help someone,

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<v Speaker 1>like you bring speakers or you go to target and

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<v Speaker 1>buy speakers.

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<v Speaker 4>Like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>Ma?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not only did no? You shut her down and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, but don't worry, she's coming again for a

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<v Speaker 2>second ask and then you said, Mom, it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>These speakers aren't leading.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Randall, Remember I said to you after we had

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation, I was like, she's gonna hit me back

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<v Speaker 1>and say I'll carry the speakers plane.

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<v Speaker 2>And she did, Yeah she did. I mean I said

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<v Speaker 2>to her. I made a joke when we were in

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<v Speaker 2>Florida last week. I said, Lisa, why don't you just

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<v Speaker 2>dig up our pool and fly it off to Texas

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<v Speaker 2>and you could put the pool in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, the woman thinks she's mother Teresa, but she's like

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<v Speaker 1>volunteering me to like be the mother.

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<v Speaker 5>The next time somebody asked me to like help them move,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna be like, oh, yeah, I know, my wife

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<v Speaker 5>will go do that for you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Tim, when your wife says no, you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell her. I'm just nicer to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so much more generous than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Is gonna slaughter us?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not me, not me. I want to tell you, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 2>I am the biggest supporter of the Man City if

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<v Speaker 2>you tell you know that, financially and emotionally. So please

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<v Speaker 2>go for your daughter on this one. I had nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with this story.

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<v Speaker 1>I just had to share that story because it was epic.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let me tell you something, great job. Your

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<v Speaker 2>fans cannot get mad at me now for cutting you off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I shut up for two minutes and now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready to talk because I don't have a platform to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not on a TV show. I'm just Randall

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<v Speaker 2>the movie producer.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so I miss you so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss you too, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's let's sly on this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to break. Let's go to break, take a

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<v Speaker 2>quick break, and we're gonna come back with Rocky Balboa.

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<v Speaker 1>And fast infamous legend.

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<v Speaker 3>I sound like.

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<v Speaker 6>You know you're just like I was telling brand no matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you are, when you were born, where you come from,

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<v Speaker 1>you know liat And so I'm I'm shooting bricks the fact.

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<v Speaker 3>That we have you on Oh well, vice versa. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>nervous around you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh come on, Oh that's sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>Know you guys just whose talent here? Your show is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's not easy to do what you do,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm uh, I'll be as cooperative as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. And I got to tell you something. I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when we started the slide, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>got together Lala and I to do this and I've

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<v Speaker 2>never been in front of the camera, and nor does

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<v Speaker 2>anybody want to see my face in front of the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, this has been a lot of fun and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, thank you for doing this. You're obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest we've ever had. I just want to I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to jump in real quick, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to tell people because I don't know if everybody knows this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to get into the Rocky story, which

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<v Speaker 2>I know a little bit about. You wrote Rocky in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy five at age twenty nine, over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of three days, one of the most legendary franchises that

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<v Speaker 2>you went on to be nominated for three Oscars. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to globe. You know, it's unbelievable. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you just share kind of how it started for you

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<v Speaker 2>to become you know who you are?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was a knock around actor in New York

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<v Speaker 3>and I wasn't getting anywhere because people thought I had

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<v Speaker 3>an affectation with my voice. It was very, very deep,

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<v Speaker 3>and I slurred a great deal because of an accident

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<v Speaker 3>I had during birth, which is a four step accident

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of numbed my vocal cord. So no matter what,

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<v Speaker 3>I sound like, I'm half underwater.

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<v Speaker 2>So wow, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I sound to me inside, I sound like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Daniel day Lewis or I found you know,

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<v Speaker 3>But when it comes out, I sound like like a.

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<v Speaker 4>Mafia pole bearer. You know what I Mean's like, what

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<v Speaker 4>are you doing? How are you doing? I s hot?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know the thing is, I finally realized that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never going to get cast in anything unless perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>I sort of do it myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I realized that jigger was up.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen seventy when I couldn't even get an extra

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<v Speaker 3>part and The Godfather, I went, I'll look, I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>in the wedding scene. I said, I'll stand behind the

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<v Speaker 3>cake anything. I said, wow, this is really not looking good.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's when I started to write, and I had

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<v Speaker 3>never written before, but I took a job as an

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<v Speaker 3>usher at night, literally to just record.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a little recorder, you know, a movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Like mash and other vehicles. And I go home and

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to the dialogue, and then I started to

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<v Speaker 3>write new dialogue for the same movie, kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>as an exercise. Well, anyway, years move on, nothing happens,

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<v Speaker 3>and I go to Hollywood and I get some half

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<v Speaker 3>baked agent and I just have an open audition. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know how I got it. I think a

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<v Speaker 3>guy named Gene Kirk whod got it for me for

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<v Speaker 3>shot off in Winkler. And they didn't want to really

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<v Speaker 3>see me, but I think it was a favor. Everyone

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<v Speaker 3>was looking at their cuff lanes. I could watch and

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<v Speaker 3>you know that thing, it's the truth. So they said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, thanks for coming. I go thanks, and on

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<v Speaker 3>the way out, for some reason, I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if it matters, but I write a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>and they go, okay, sure, well I haven't got anything,

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<v Speaker 3>just let me know, and that's it. So wow, the

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<v Speaker 3>door's open. But I don't have anything. And that's when

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<v Speaker 3>I went home and formulated Rocky. Right away, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I need something that will late to everybody, but also

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<v Speaker 3>it's perfect for who I am, my slurry voice, the

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<v Speaker 3>way I look, the way I sound. And that's when

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<v Speaker 3>I came up with this half baked idea of Rocky.

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<v Speaker 3>And I started to borrow from other films like On

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<v Speaker 3>the Waterfront, Mean Streets, this and that, that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, that kind of vibe sort of works,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just sat down. I started right and write

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<v Speaker 3>and write, and about three and a half days later,

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<v Speaker 3>I had about a ninety five page script. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying it was you know probably you know Randall, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent was good. But it was done.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, done, You did that in three days.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, three and a half days. That's But then again,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't the shooting script, but it was.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it wasn't. But see, I'm a big believer that, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather get something done and if it's a little sloppy,

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<v Speaker 3>I can fix it. The mean thing is, while you're

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<v Speaker 3>in that mood, while you're in that stiver, go for

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<v Speaker 3>it and repair it later rather than Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some some actors are painters will spend a year on something.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going, how do you stay passionate for a year?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know? You don't. Then it becomes clinical, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you become a sort of of you get, you

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<v Speaker 3>start to get, You doubt yourself, you question yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>It's this page good? Is that page good?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm a believer in just' just jumping head first

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<v Speaker 3>into something and I'll fix the mistakes later. I'll get

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get stitched up later, I'll put my arm in

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<v Speaker 3>a cast later. But at least it's done.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right now. What happens after after this?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I walk in there. I walk in there and

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<v Speaker 3>I say, here's the screenplay, and they went, not bad,

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<v Speaker 3>not bad, not bad. We'd like to you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>run with it.

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<v Speaker 4>This.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a bad story. It's kind of derivative.

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<v Speaker 3>But and I said, well, I want to be in and.

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<v Speaker 2>They go, how is that really?

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you try comedy?

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<v Speaker 4>Really? Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows you? And they were pretty blunt. They said,

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<v Speaker 3>tell you the truth. You have a speech impediment.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to tell you right now. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>understand you. So I go, he's punchy anyway, So what

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<v Speaker 3>and they go they didn't think that was funny. So

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<v Speaker 3>they offered a certain amount of money, and I was broke.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean when I tell you it was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of those things where you got a crossroad guys, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You go, this is it.

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<v Speaker 3>You either take a little bit of money now or you.

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<v Speaker 4>Just go all in. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So it went to twenty grand was the Writer's Guild minimum,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I said no. They were kind of flabber astid. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>cut to a long story short. They said, look, we

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<v Speaker 3>got guys like Burt Reynolds and Ryan on the Robert Redford,

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Kahn. There was that all these physical types back then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a real plethora. There was an abundance of

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<v Speaker 3>them as opposed to today. And they said, why don't

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<v Speaker 3>you just take one hundred grand? So I went home

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<v Speaker 3>to my wife, said one hundred grand is she like

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<v Speaker 3>almost got.

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<v Speaker 4>A nose bleacher cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's gonna be gone and we're gonna be here,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going.

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<v Speaker 4>To be really bitter, really bitter.

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<v Speaker 3>I just know I'm gonna be I just don't have

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<v Speaker 3>the mentality to realize. I sold out and if the

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<v Speaker 3>movie God Forbid became a hit, then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>be useless to you, to me, to society.

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<v Speaker 4>I just know it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna be a shell of a man.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say when things like the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you had the foresight or you know, to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to see that, because ninety nine percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>world that kind of money back then would be half

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars today and if you're broke, ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the world's taking that deal. So the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you believed in yourself on the long play is

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<v Speaker 2>is unbelievable. I mean, it's such a lesson there, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But but okay, so now what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>So it goes up.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes up to two hundred and now my agent

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<v Speaker 3>is going, seriously, we're sorry, there's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, but it's not I'm telling you. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>ever live with myself if I'm telling you. And then

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<v Speaker 3>it went to three hundred and sixty thousand dollars. Now

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<v Speaker 3>that that's this is now the studio is going, what

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<v Speaker 3>is this like a game? He's not worth it, This

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<v Speaker 3>movie isn't worth it. So they're getting very angry at

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<v Speaker 3>the producers. Everyone hates everybody. Now so finally, finally they go,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what we're gonna We'll do this movie. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>pay him twenty grand. He gets nothing. He gets three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty three hundred and sixty dollars a week

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<v Speaker 3>before taxes, and after five days, if we don't like him,

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<v Speaker 3>we're firing him. And they didn't even know who I was.

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<v Speaker 3>They they go, who is Sta Loone? Can we see

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<v Speaker 3>a picture of him? So what they did is they

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<v Speaker 3>send over the a print of or It's a Flat

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<v Speaker 3>Bush where I played this like two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>pounds Greaseball. But the indeed in it was movie star handsome.

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<v Speaker 3>His name was Perry King. He looked like Brad Pitt,

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<v Speaker 3>clefting the chin, blue eyes, blonde hair, as waspy and big,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, truly handsome. So they go, oh, we could

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<v Speaker 3>do something with that guy. And then he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll greenlight the movie. They think I'm the blonde with

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<v Speaker 3>the blue eyes. And then when they finally dawned on them,

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<v Speaker 3>the thug looking out with the crooked mouth and the brown.

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<v Speaker 4>Eyes, it was too late.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, they said, okay, we'll try it for five days.

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<v Speaker 3>If we hate him, we're canceling the movie because they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to make it.

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<v Speaker 4>They were only.

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<v Speaker 3>Making this literally as a second billing at a drive in.

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<v Speaker 3>This was never meant to be released. I couldn't believe it,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So I remember the first day in the said, I went, god,

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<v Speaker 3>this is it? Go for my friend. And I remember

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<v Speaker 3>the day where I'm supposed to shake down it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>the first scene on the docks where I go and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a loan shark clock and I go over to

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<v Speaker 3>the guy, Hey, you know you owe me one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty dollars. You can pay mister guys because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have it.

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<v Speaker 4>I go take my coat. I don't want your coat.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, break my thumbs. Don't think it.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, look, I won't break your thumbs.

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<v Speaker 4>And you see that. Rocky is like really yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he can't even do anything well, and the studio went,

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<v Speaker 3>you know this, my this is kind of interesting, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was the beginning. So I'm just a compositive

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.479
<v Speaker 3>errors that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That is that is a very humble statement. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a question when you were done with Rocky, when did

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<v Speaker 2>it happen like where you where it became Rocky. You know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>when was that moment where you knew, wow, everything had changed?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a screening at mgym and made tell.

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<v Speaker 4>Me about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got there like literally as the movie ended,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was standing there just looking at people coming

0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:20.959
<v Speaker 3>up and Frank Sinatra. I went, wow, he's here, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>And he started to go buy me. He walked past,

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<v Speaker 3>and I remember he pulled out a camel and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>never get in a camel lighter and I had a

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<v Speaker 3>lighter or camels, and he started tapping the.

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<v Speaker 4>Cigarette on the lighter.

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<v Speaker 3>He looked up because, hey, you're the wise guy in

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<v Speaker 3>the film. You know what, You're not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>in anyone's rearview mirror for long. Wow, come on, you're

0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.119
<v Speaker 3>not going to be in anyone's rearview mirror for long.

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 3>And Freank Sinatra for real. And then a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years later I met him and I reminded him my bag.

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Of course, He's like, who are you at the moment

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<v Speaker 3>and see, I said, damn, And it's just sorted happening.

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 3>It was him and a couple like Diana's shore. Then

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 3>another person came out, Anthony Anthony Hopkins and damn, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all these people. So that's when I realized something was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Then then about a week later, they had a screen

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<v Speaker 3>at the Writers Director's Guild and everything went wrong. No

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<v Speaker 3>one left, no one applauded. When the movie was over,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone left and went, holy, well this is really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went into major depression. So as I was

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<v Speaker 3>going down the escalator, uh to leave in complete silence.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was like pitiful. So I look up

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<v Speaker 3>and there's everyone waiting in the lobby, like these are

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 3>hardcore directors, you know, and you know everyone Hollywood runs

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<v Speaker 3>on the three ages. You know, Hollywood hates happiness. That's it,

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 3>it is, Hollywood hates happiness.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know you're you're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if that guy succeeds, that means you might not.

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 3>So it's a really tough, tough, tough crowd, very clinical crowd.

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 3>And when they were down there and they started a flooding,

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<v Speaker 3>and damn, I'm gonna be able to buy a house.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to pay for food, I could get my

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<v Speaker 4>GOLG back.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, all these things started to happen. And so

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<v Speaker 3>it was when people ask me, like, how do you

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<v Speaker 3>do it? I don't know, n No, it's it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a it's just a confluence of so many different things

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 3>happening that there is there's no formula, as you know,

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 3>it's the things that you think will never work. If

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:51.879
<v Speaker 3>I tried to pitch Rocky today, let's say I was

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.239
<v Speaker 3>a nobody, that movie would never be made ever in

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Speaker 3>a million years.

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:56.680
<v Speaker 2>It was time.

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 3>It's a matter of timing this the country that time.

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean every film I was up against, like all

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 3>the President's men, dealing with Watergate, Taxi driver, dealing with

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, nihilism and politics, Bound for Gloria again politics,

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 3>and I'm going and then Rocky, the goofy guy who

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 3>just wants to fall in love and be happy that it.

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Is a love story, I mean at its core, and

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the Underdogs is seeding right, I mean, if you're looking.

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 4>At it's a love story.

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 3>And he happens to be a boxer, and not a

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 3>very good one. He's a terrible fighter, but he really

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 3>And I said, like, I never put it in the screenplay,

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 3>but I wanted to because I'm no great fighter. I

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 3>fight great fighters, but I ain't nothing great about me

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 3>except I don't want to lose.

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 4>That's it.

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 3>And that's basically how I've lived my life. I'm not

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 3>a great actor, a great come on, come on, but no,

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm serious. I look at some of these actors like, god,

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 3>that guy is incredible. Look at that writings. But there's

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:06.439
<v Speaker 3>another element to there's a desire to get it across

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 3>the finish lines. It's just you know what I mean. Win.

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 3>It may not be pretty, but I just want to

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 3>make it.

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, win. I just want to win. And that's it.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 6>The heart, it's the heart behind you you do, and

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 6>that's what makes you a legend.

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you like this, but you

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>know why you were you. It was just in the

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>stars for you. You were destined to make something great and

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>be great. And that's that's how I feel about it.

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 1>So thank you for sharing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, thank you well for all the other outcasts

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.919
<v Speaker 3>out there, come don't yeah, all your little outcasts. They

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 3>think that you know, you're different and you're weird, because

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 3>you are. You are different and you are weird. But

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 3>that's what makes that's what makes for really interesting adventures

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:53.360
<v Speaker 3>in your life because you're not.

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 4>The status quo. You're the outcast.

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 3>And I said, embrace your oddness. Really I'm telling you

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to fit in. You don't want to

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:04.880
<v Speaker 3>fit in. I love that.

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I love that slide because I

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 2>grew up obviously as an outcast and I I you know,

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 2>as you know, I've I've trailblazed my own path. I

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>want to say, you know, people don't realize that to

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 2>have one franchise in Hollywood is a dream. I mean

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>that that really as a producer, a director, an actor,

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>everybody wants a single franchise. You have Rocky Rambo, expendables, uh,

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 2>an escape plan. I mean, you have multiple franchises. Do

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 2>you do you recognize I mean, I I know you

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 2>know how hard it is to be successful, but do

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 2>you even know how hard it is to have fourth

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, nobody has that.

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like, He's like, yeah, dude, I know how hard

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>it is.

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I thanks thanks for that.

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'll tell you you've got the You know,

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 3>if you can do a sequel, it's the third one.

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 3>It's the third one.

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 4>Is that really?

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 3>That's because you've lost the element of surprise? But what

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 3>early on in my career, I go, why can that

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 3>television show run for ten years? And you make an

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 3>interesting character? And actors go, well, that's it. I don't

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.679
<v Speaker 3>want to revisit that again ago, but the character is

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 3>still growing and the audience really likes it. Why would

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 3>you stop? And they go because it's not pure it'

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a money grab. I go, well, it's all

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 3>those things, but it still can be really good entertainment.

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 3>And the character is growing because the actor is growing,

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 3>and so I earlier on I've always I've always said why.

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if I see Rampa like I was the

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 3>eleventh choice for Ramba. Nobody wanted to do the movie.

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Everyone in Hollywood who had any kind of notoriety said path,

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 3>including three different directors. Rambo went, this is a no brainer.

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 3>This is an interesting All I have to do is

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 3>change one thing. Rambo was a psychotic, and I go,

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what, let's make the world psychotic. And he

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 3>just wants to like fit in as opposed to being out.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 4>That's all I want to change.

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I said in the In the novel, guys, he kills everyone,

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 3>he's crazy, and I go, why why why if you

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>just take that element out? And he wants to fit

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 3>in whole the character, whole the story, And I would

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 3>do if my body.

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Would hold up.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 3>I would do him. Rambo literally turns into dust, like, okay,

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Rambo twenty the dust.

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 4>Bowl and that's it.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 3>It swirls away in a dust devil and that's the

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 3>end of it.

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Wait so so, but but sly so. All these people

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>passed on Rambo, which I had no idea. And again

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 2>another property that you saw something that nobody else saw.

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's kind of right, that's pretty epical, real

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 2>quick nostalgia. I said it before we had you on.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's crazy. The story of Sustine, one of

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>your daughters, who worked on my first movie I directed,

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't I was telling the audience the story

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't call you, which normally I call you

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>for anything story related, and her agent had called me,

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, of course, I'll see Sustine. I mean,

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the lineage is there, let's see. And I watched her

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 2>tape and she crushed it. She's obviously an incredible talent.

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>We cast her on the spot and you, I don't

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>think new till she was in Puerto Rico filming is

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>that we're about to leave about that.

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 4>I was so shocked. That's when I called you. It's true. Yeah, yeah.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I thought she had run away from home, I swear

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 3>to you, so she doesn't want any help at all.

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 4>So I was so taken in the back that she

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 4>actually did.

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 3>It on her own volition. Oh yeah, nice, yow.

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>And I gave her a lot of respect props. I

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 2>said to her, I said, you know, I've not She said,

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>have you spoken to my dad? I said, I've never

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 2>not spoken to her dad. No, and I said, And

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 2>when she got there, she pretty much had finished or

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>the day before, she was about to shoot. And then

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you called me, and I was even more shocked, and

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>were I think we were both shocked, like you didn't know,

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. We didn't know.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know.

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 4>And it's it really is hard for.

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Kids that have I guess she might say, have a

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 3>step up or privileged background to feel as though they've

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 3>actually done something on their own cognization, on their own watch.

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 3>And thank you very much for recognizing that she she

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 3>literally did it without any help from her father.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 2>No, no, hundred percent. And there were three girls up

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 2>for that role, and I watched them all just on performance,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and she crushed it and she was fantastic on set.

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>She was fantastic.

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>She took direction and and she just she's she she's

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>obviously got it in her blood and she's gonna have

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 2>a big career. So I thank you for that.

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 6>Why before we leave, so, are any of your other

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 6>girls into acting or is it just stem?

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 3>No? Actually, uh, Scarlet has. There's something about Scarlet that

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 3>is very drawn to the arts, and it's something that

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I kind of persuade. I say, you know, this comes

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 3>with an abundance of heartache. You understand that. And this

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 3>is the most insecure profession there is because the product

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 3>is you. It's not a pair of shoes or a purse.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 3>When you don't get it, it's you being rejected. So

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 3>the one thing, if you have to have incredibly, incredibly

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 3>thick skin, it's more important than having thick hair. So

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 3>if you have that, you may persevere. Sophia is very

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 3>very aeradise.

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 4>She likes to read.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 3>She's this and that. So they're actually doing a podcast together,

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Christean and Scott. They're starting I think in a day

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 3>or so, and it's called are you ready?

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God? That's fun.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Unwax. You could interpret that a lot of way, surve

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 3>forwards or oneself.

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. Well, I can't wait to hear that.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>As soon as that's out, I'm sure i'll see the

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 2>thank you. They're going to be great and obviously they

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>they're going to have an easy time getting guests, you know.

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, I'm going to thank you. Listen, you

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 3>two guys are doing a fantastic job. I know it's

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 3>not easy. Well, we know each other personally, so this

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 3>this is a wonderful treat because this team out of nowhere.

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's something that you've all developed and you're you know,

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you are such a magnanimous and humorous it's smart man.

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 3>And you is there anything you can't do here? Yeah?

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Go sly, there we go.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm very nice, very nice.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 4>It's so serious.

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you asked a nice question, but you have

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 3>a certain aura about your show here that I see

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 3>nothing but green lights and blue skies.

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 2>We are so grateful to have you. Thank you, and

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>thanks for being a great friend and colleague and guest.

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I love you and I'm appreciative and we just can't

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>say enough nice things.

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, and we're going to be working together

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 3>real soon as you know.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we have an announcement soon on another movie that

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>we're doing together, so you be all right, thanksly and

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 2>everybody all right, thank you guys. Wow lah.

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 4>So I mean I'm like, shook it.

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say something. I think that your fans

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 2>will be happy because I think that's the first time

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I was quiet pretty much the entire episode. I mean,

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>he by the way he deserves I mean my silence

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 2>because he is just epic epic.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>He is he is epic and every time, you know,

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I've had the pleasure of being around him in more

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>intimate settings and it's you almost have to like take

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you have an out of body experience, like when you

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>go through his life, and that he wasn't given a chance.

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So he was like, fuck this, I'm writing my own

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>script like he just like he did the work.

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 3>They don't.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>There aren't very many stars like him anymore.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:38.240
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of waiters.

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of people who who go for it.

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to I want to second that I agree

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>with you, and not only that, to hear that being

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 2>an outcast makes you unique and special and drive success.

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of us share that same kind

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 2>of thing. You know, I was an outcast, you were

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>an outcast, and I think that being an outcome cast

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>as when you're young. We have to embrace that and

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 2>say it's okay, because that means we're creating our own

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 2>path in our own way, and we're not going to

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>be a follower. And anyway, I was just look, I've

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>known Sly a long time, and I felt like, Wow,

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>he really gave us his heart in this interview, and

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 2>I felt like he really shared with us things that

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have to share in vulnerability to. So if

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 2>people who are wanting to get in the business or

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>wanting to start their own business, maybe they can take

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 2>away from this interview that, you know, don't be afraid

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and just create your own path and be honorable to that.

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 2>So I am. I'm so moved right now. I'm so grateful,

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm so thankful for having Sylvester Sloan.

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<v Speaker 1>I also have to give you before we let everyone

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<v Speaker 1>go back to their real life, I also have to

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<v Speaker 1>give you a lot of credit, Rand, because you know,

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>we have these guests on and they're very open with

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<v Speaker 1>us and they share things that you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they they otherwise wouldn't share if they didn't feel safe.

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<v Speaker 1>And you and I have talked about this before this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is not too We always talk about spilling the tea,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not here to break news. I'm not here

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to like make you feel uncomfortable, and hopefully a lot

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of articles are written about it. I just want people

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to show up and feel like they're in a safe place,

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and you bring guests on that you've really made incredible

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>friendships with them so they feel safe with you. So

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<v Speaker 1>I also give yourself some credit when when we have

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>guests on that share like that, they also are doing

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<v Speaker 1>that because they feel safe with you. No, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>me too.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but first of all, I appreciate that, babe, And

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and I know that they come on because

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>there is a trust and a long history of a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, even coming on, you know,

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 2>they make a decision, and you're right, obviously, I think

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>because of our relationship they open up more. But it

0:36:55.680 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>is so kind to see somebody of his success sit

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 2>on our podcast and say, hey, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what it was like and I wasn't secure when I

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't have anything, and blah blah blah, And honestly, I

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>really hope our audience embraces these vulnerable, honest authentic moments

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that we get with our guests, because for me, everything's

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 2>about you know what, let's take it back a step.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's about relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Our podcast is built on our relationship, that's how it started,

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>but it's also our relationships with everybody else, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with our friends, with our circle, with people we meet.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just am grateful to have you and to

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<v Speaker 2>have this podcast and a platform for us to share

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 2>and bring people in that are part of our lives.

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>And Sly was an incredible guest today and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we are super corny today, super cheapy. I'm into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's going to be any comments in

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<v Speaker 1>the comment section that say we bicker too much because

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<v Speaker 1>we are showing mad love to each other.

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<v Speaker 4>YEA.

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<v Speaker 2>First of First of all, I want and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say something because I don't read the comments, but

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you've told me if anybody says bicker too much. First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, we're in a relationship, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Second of all, I love you, babe, and you love me,

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<v Speaker 2>and we know that, and I just had to say

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<v Speaker 2>it out loud. But I have a question for producer

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<v Speaker 2>Tim because he is like the movie guru, what is

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<v Speaker 2>your takeaway from that podcast because you've been around Sly

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<v Speaker 2>on our movies and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I was struck by how inspirational he

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 5>was and just you know, making a point to speak

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<v Speaker 5>to people with aspirations and dreams of getting into the

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I took his comments as much more broad

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.919
<v Speaker 5>than just the film industry, but you know, he did

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 5>speak directly to those young people that are trying to

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<v Speaker 5>catch a break.

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<v Speaker 2>But I agree with you. I agree that it was

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<v Speaker 2>much broader, and I think that no matter what business

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>you're in, after this podcast, you should be so inspired

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>if you're trying to you know, I don't know, if

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 2>you're trying whatever, you're trying to start up a new

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>company from scratch in your basement, like this podcast should

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.919
<v Speaker 2>tell you, go do it. Don't think about it, don't

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>over obsess, don't obsess over it, just do it. And

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the words I'm gonna take away from today.

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<v Speaker 2>So laala any last words, because I just I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>such a high right now.

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<v Speaker 1>All I want to say is, we just had motherfucking

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Sylvester Stallone on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>No big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna leave it at that. All right, All right,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, baby, take us out.

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0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>for tuning in to the Give Them La La with

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<v Speaker 1>Roundela podcast again and we will catch you next week.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye boy,