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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it is a Fried day.

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Speaker 1: We got a spicy show, Blazing five in an hour,

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Speaker 1: red hot sixty two percent. I'll do something in the

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Speaker 1: Blazing five I'm not sure I've ever done before in

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Speaker 1: one hour. Josh Allen upset they couldn't get the plane

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Speaker 1: on time. So, Buffalo, wherever you may be, however you

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Speaker 1: may be listening or watching, thanks for making us part

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Speaker 1: of your day. So Josh Allen once again feels like

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Speaker 1: a six foot six pinata upset time last night. So

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Speaker 1: four things are happening with Buffalo, none of them good.

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Speaker 1: They become very turnover prone. Three last night Houston with

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Speaker 1: no run game ran for over one hundred yards. The

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Speaker 1: O line got worked. And oh, by the way, they

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Speaker 1: have no deep threat at all. Other than that, things

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Speaker 1: are great. A lot of times quarterbacks let down a franchise.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the franchise can't get the playing on

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Speaker 1: time is letting down Josh Allen. I mean, Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: is a pro, I get it, but he engineered two

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Speaker 1: long drives seventy seven to seventy five yards. My eyes

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Speaker 1: tell me I watched that game. You watch that game.

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Speaker 1: Texans have better players. That there's seven or eight great

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Speaker 1: rosters in this league. Buffalo's not one of them. They're

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Speaker 1: not one of them. I mean, at D line wide

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Speaker 3: It's not close.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that Ed Oliver's hurt it's

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Speaker 1: the NFL, or that Dalton kin Kaid's not available. You

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Speaker 1: have two other tight ends, or that Keon Coleman. The

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Speaker 1: young receivers a bit immature, went a league full young guys.

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Speaker 1: The Texans were missing their quarterback, and the Bills are

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Speaker 1: getting into a really bad habit of losing the average quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Their last three losses.

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Speaker 1: Are to Tua, Michael Pennix, and Davis Mills. And I

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Speaker 1: know he's a pro, but Davis Mills should not be

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Speaker 1: beating Josh Allen. I don't want to see chef boy

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Speaker 1: r d Out cooking Bobby Flay ever under any circumstances period.

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Speaker 3: So now Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Clearly is pressing because he doesn't have a deep threat.

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Speaker 1: Houston's got a real defense. He's been pressing this year,

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Speaker 1: so a turnovers are up. He has three more picks

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Speaker 1: than all of last season. And why nobody's opened down field.

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Speaker 1: You can't win super Bowls in this league where every

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Speaker 1: Buffalo didn't have that. Houston had more speed, a little

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Speaker 1: bit more size, more depth. So Buffalo suddenly now can

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Speaker 1: only win one way. Josh Allen has to have three

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Speaker 1: or more touchdowns and last week he had six.

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Speaker 3: They can win that way.

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Speaker 1: Not sustainable, and he's only missed four games in his career.

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Speaker 1: But Josh Allen, on more than one occasion last night,

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Speaker 1: got up slowly, and I don't care that he's six

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Speaker 1: took a beating because they extended plays put themselves in

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Speaker 1: extends plays, he can run backwards. He did done a

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Speaker 1: Ben who were six to six. It takes years off

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Speaker 3: I feel like you got the quarterback, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Be losing it to him and backups and Michael Pennix

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Speaker 4: After when they hit their quarterback twelve times.

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Speaker 4: I don't like that stat at all.

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Speaker 6: And it's not a healthy way to play or a

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Speaker 7: I got to be better. I'll throwing the ball away

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Speaker 7: and living to see another down and letting this play

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Speaker 7: some situational football and pen them deep. And too many

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Speaker 7: times I was going backwards and I gotta be better

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Speaker 1: Speaking of another very talented quarterback. Sunday and sunny Chicago

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Speaker 1: Bears hosts the Steelers, and there's a lot of Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams critics and doubters. I am not one of them,

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Speaker 1: although I do think sometimes I'd like to see more

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Speaker 1: consistent accuracy. But for the doubters and critics, this is

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Speaker 1: a game that you are waiting to see, right, because

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh punishes you. They forced eleven turnovers with Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: and Drake May. Those teams are combined seventeen to four,

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Speaker 1: and those teams are better than Pittsburgh, but Pittsburgh beat

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Speaker 1: five and oho when they win the turnover battle, and

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Speaker 1: it's the only way Pittsburgh's going to win this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Why because Aaron Rodgers is not one hundred percent and

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Speaker 1: he's old, and they cannot run the football. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is last week they played since the four touchdowns

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Speaker 1: too aur on defense. That's how Pittsburgh wins now, especially

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Speaker 1: with Aaron probably planning about seventy five eighty percent. The

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Speaker 1: should be a low scoring game. Whoever wins the turnover

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Speaker 1: battle probably wins the game. That's how Pittsburgh's going to

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Speaker 1: those games where Caleb Williams plays in structure and it's

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Speaker 1: kind of boring. Boring will win because I think Chicago

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Speaker 1: is the better team and they're at home and they

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Speaker 1: be an issue. So this is a classic game in

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Speaker 1: get rid of it. Play with instructure. Caleb does not

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Speaker 1: throw a lot of picks. But if he's going to

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Speaker 1: this Pittsburgh team with Mike Tomlin is a great underdog team.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin's is going to underdog coach and motivator as the

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Speaker 1: league has and Aaron's banged up and they can't run

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Speaker 1: got to create turnovers. We have to score in defense

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Speaker 1: and special teams. It's their route to win. Chicago can

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Speaker 1: win multiple ways, but the absolute way they'll lose is

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Speaker 1: to play in at Tomlin, which is turnovers and giveaways.

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Speaker 1: So I think I think Caleb's gonna play well. I

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Speaker 1: think Chicago's the better team. I think the weather sets

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Speaker 1: love him, like him and here's Mike Tomlin unfacing Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 8: And I can't say enough about what I've seen from

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Speaker 8: Caleb Williams. Certainly I had studied him a lot, being

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Speaker 8: in a young guy in this league and an NFC guy,

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Speaker 8: but just really impressed with his physical talents. His ability

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Speaker 8: to throw the football is his accuracy, his arm strength,

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Speaker 8: his ability to extend, his ability to see the full

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Speaker 8: feel while doing so, minimizing negativity. The creativity associated with

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Speaker 8: his escapability and play extension is really challenge.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Drake may has been unbelievable this year. He unraveled against

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Speaker 1: the Seedlers, Daniel Jones and the Colts offense number one

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Speaker 1: in the league in efficiency. Daniel Jones unraveled against Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: and the culture better than Pittsburgh. Let's be honest about that.

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Speaker 1: New England's better than Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh beat them both one way.

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Speaker 1: The defense creates turnovers. That is the way Pittsburgh wins

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Speaker 1: this weekend. So can Caleb play really? Play with instructure

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Speaker 1: kind of be boring, Get rid of the ball quickly, don't, don't,

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Speaker 1: don't tease TJ Watt, don't.

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Speaker 3: It's not good. So I think it's a fascinating game.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a critic or a doubter of Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: you're sitting there on X you're just ready to push send.

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Speaker 3: You are just ready to push told you so.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Chicago is a better team, whether

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Speaker 1: play is the part, Aaron's banged up.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna win.

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Speaker 1: J Mac Spicy Show today, Chador Sanders, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: You know, the NFL's king when two and eight faces

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Speaker 1: two and eight and I can't wait to watch. And

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a merchandise floodgate for the NFL this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Shador is gonna sell nothing but jerseys.

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Speaker 6: We gotta we definitely have to talk about the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: and the alleged vomit and the casino the night before.

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Speaker 3: The game that may or may not be true. I

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Speaker 3: love that story.

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Speaker 6: But Colin, I want to go to Houston, which you

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Speaker 6: open with. Somebody just pointed this out. So the division

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Speaker 6: leaders from last year, these are the folks who won

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Speaker 6: the division. Buffalo, Baltimore, Houston, and Kansas City. Probably two

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Speaker 6: of those are gonna miss the playoffs this year. So

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Speaker 6: next August, assuming you know, we're still doing the show.

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Speaker 6: We have to remember do not get chalky and say,

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, these.

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Speaker 2: Are the good teams.

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Speaker 6: Well, because every year this wacky, crazy stuff happens.

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Speaker 1: Now Houston's one, I think three straight. I always say

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Speaker 1: this what I look at a coach. That's why I've

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Speaker 1: always defended Lincoln Riley. His side of the ball has

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Speaker 1: been unbelievable at USC. This is where all support Demiko

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Speaker 1: ryans that defense is a handful. They may c J. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: may get banged up. Their run games stinks, you know,

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Speaker 1: their number one backs out, But you look at that

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Speaker 1: defense Josh Allen last night and again he didn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot to work with. You could the reason he

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Speaker 1: was holding the ball. It was like Houston had twelve

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Speaker 1: guys in the field. There was nothing, not a lot available.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love that fourth and whatever, big pickup.

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Speaker 1: That was a wonderful play. Then they you know, it'd

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Speaker 1: be nice if they could get you know, the biggest

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Speaker 1: play of the game in on time. But Houston is

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Speaker 1: defensively an elite team.

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Speaker 6: Well, it'd be nice if the Buffalo Bills had a

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Speaker 6: wide receiver who could separate. I don't know, maybe they

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Speaker 6: should have got one in the offseason or at the

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Speaker 6: trade deadline, because Josh Allen's look looking around, nobody's open, Colin.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, this offensive line, can we get

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Speaker 6: Dion Dawkins he loves coming on the show. I mean

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Speaker 6: they were obliterate, rated last night, obliterated. How are they

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Speaker 3: Road playoffs games and go to the super Bowl? They're not.

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Speaker 3: They're not. Buffalo's not going to the super Bowl. They're not.

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Speaker 3: The up and down Steelers are gonna lose.

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Speaker 1: I like the over fifty and a half. It's the

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Speaker 1: Back to back games is a little banged up, is

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Speaker 2: Seahawks at Titans.

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Speaker 3: I never take huge favorites. I'm breaking my rule.

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Speaker 1: Seattle minus thirteen and a half at Tennessee. Tennessee's zero

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Speaker 1: They're a great road team eleven and two because defense

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Speaker 1: the Niners defense is a mess. It's all beat up.

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Speaker 1: I think San Francisco, probably at home, finds the way

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Speaker 1: I think Carolina is one of those teams that people

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Speaker 1: I think it's a game that goes to the very end.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the home team. There you go, jamick anything

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Speaker 4: Panthers, Colin. There is some.

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Speaker 6: There's some juice behind this Niners offense right now. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't ate your picks.

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Speaker 6: I'm surprised you didn't weigh in on the Shedure Bowl

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Speaker 4: I think they're probably middle.

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Speaker 5: I think the expectation is he'll be better than last week.

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Speaker 5: He's playing a team that's pretty bad, but that has

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Speaker 5: Max crobbs to be Max Crosby can ruin a guy's day.

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Speaker 5: So anytime a young quarterback has an elite pass rusher

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Speaker 1: You one of the REASONS i think The chiefs are

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Speaker 1: CATCHES i Think Kansas, city when you don't want to

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Speaker 1: your career and maybe a year For New england when

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Speaker 1: good or hot. TEAM i just think champions are really

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Speaker 5: Year we were struggling on, offense trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: Boost and we lost a game In december that, YEAR i,

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Speaker 5: believe to The, steelers which you know that's kind of

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Speaker 5: where we're going a long. Run SO i think the

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Speaker 5: confidence booster was when we played that Young buffalo team

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Speaker 5: Could be said about The, chiefs like these guys didn't

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Speaker 5: ultimately it's the most important time to be playing your best.

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Speaker 5: Football it starts After. Thanksgiving that's what we all used

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Speaker 5: to say in our. Building the real football season starts After.

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Speaker 5: Thanksgiving you have to put yourself in position to be

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Speaker 5: able to compete after that. Time but the real football starts,

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Speaker 4: STILL i don't care what anyone.

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Speaker 1: game AND i could argue that's What buffalo. Is the

437
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: difference is your defenses were great And buffalo's has gone

438
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: into the. TANK i do think they could use another deep,

439
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: threat but in Fairness December, january deep threats often disappear

440
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: In buffalo Or New england because of the.

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Speaker 3: Weather so WHEN i Watched buffalo.

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00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: Last, night my biggest issue Is josh is forcing, stuff

443
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: so the turnovers are. Spiking they never did With tom

444
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: and the defense JUST i mean Even houston ran on.

445
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: Him houston has no run.

446
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: GAME i Thought houston looked like they were deeper and

447
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: more physical and had more good.

448
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: Players do you.

449
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: Think a lack of a deep threat is the issue

450
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Speaker 1: when you Watch? Buffalo they've now lost The, Pennix tua

451
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Speaker 1: And Davis. Mills what is the problem you see With?

452
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Speaker 1: Buffalo because it's not.

453
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 5: Quarterback it's not, quarterback AND i think it's a multiple of.

454
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 5: THINGS i think it has to do with the lack

455
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 5: of winning outside the, numbers the deep, threat THAT x

456
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 5: receiver they really relied on the cole and kid who's

457
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 5: really disappointed. THEM i, mean you know they spent a

458
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 5: second round draft pick on them last year or was

459
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 5: he a first a second regardless a high round draft

460
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 5: pick that they needed him to play well for their

461
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 5: team to. Work AND i also think it's got to

462
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 5: do it their. DEFENSE i, mean that's not sustainable defense

463
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 5: when you can't stop the.

464
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: Run if you force.

465
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 5: The bills to play the way they don't want to

466
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 5: play from, ahead making other offenses one dimensional where they

467
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 5: have to throw the. Ball they're decent against the, pass

468
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: that's what their defense is designed to, do but they

469
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 5: can't get there right. Now SO i think it's gonna

470
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 5: be tough, because like you, said whenever we were struggling

471
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Speaker 5: on offense or or some of these teams that have

472
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 5: had the older or the quarterback only team or, whatever

473
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Speaker 5: The Ben, roethlisberg you could always rely on our defense

474
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Speaker 5: or our special teams to make. Play they got a big,

475
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 5: team they got a big play from their special teams,

476
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: last but their defense is just not. There SO i

477
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: think it's a multiple. THINGS i think it's a lack

478
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 5: of deep, threat which you, know it's very disappointing that

479
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Speaker 5: This coleman kid is doing what he's, Doing LIKE i.

480
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 5: CAN'T i can't emphasize that a much. Enough when a

481
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 5: team is relying on you and you, go and especially

482
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 5: a team like The Buffalo bills and for whatever, reason

483
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 5: he's got added tude, problems like that's a cancer that

484
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 5: they are relying on him and then the. Defense SO

485
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 5: i think it they're a complimentary football team when they

486
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: got one thing not going because of how they spend

487
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 5: their money as the, team it's not gonna.

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Speaker 4: Work SO i think it's a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Things So Caleb, Williams Drake may And bownicks are winning

490
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Speaker 1: a lot of. Games they also Have Ben, Johnson Mike,

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Speaker 1: Rabel Sean. Pateon they have really good. Coaches that, said

492
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Speaker 1: you have good sources In New. England aren't they even

493
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Speaker 1: surprised how Good Drake may. Is they still don't have

494
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Speaker 1: a number one, receiver they don't have a dominant tight.

495
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Speaker 1: End it's a good old, line it's not a GREAT o.

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Speaker 1: Line do you think they're surprised by how efficient he.

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Speaker 5: Is i've talked to a lot of people in, there

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Speaker 5: AND i wouldn't say they're. SURPRISED i would just say

499
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Speaker 5: that they were excited from from day.

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Speaker 4: One you.

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Speaker 5: Know talking to one of my main guys, there he kept, saying,

502
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Speaker 5: like you, know this kid retains. Information he doesn't make

503
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Speaker 5: the same mistakes he processes and that's WHAT i heard a,

504
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Speaker 5: lot AND i didn't see it last year at, all

505
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Speaker 5: But i've been seeing it this year throughout the whole.

506
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: Season one thing he needs to do is he needs

507
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 5: to stop taking, hits and and that's gonna come with

508
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 5: more time on task in this, offense because you see

509
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Speaker 5: him in his empty, personnel like his empty. Situations whenever

510
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 5: he's an empty he looks at his first three and

511
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 5: then he ends up taking off and, going and he

512
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 5: tells me he doesn't know the nuances of the, offense

513
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 5: which means he has a lot more room to, grow

514
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 5: which is going to be scary once he gets that

515
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 5: empty package, going because they're really good with the play.

516
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 5: Action they got a run game, going and he's got

517
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 5: those athletic. Plays but the one constant THING i heard

518
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Speaker 5: from everyone great, attitude loves to, learn natural, leader and can.

519
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Speaker 5: Process SO i never heard, surprised BUT i heard excited a.

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Speaker 3: LOT i don't think you.

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Speaker 1: Can you can't fool pro, athletes AND i mean, Listen

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Speaker 1: New england had high draft picks and a lot of

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Speaker 1: them on. Offense could not play everybody make EVERY gm

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Speaker 1: misses on draft.

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Speaker 4: Picks it's.

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Speaker 1: Hard AND i WATCHED jj, McCarthy AND i think to,

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Speaker 1: myself everybody in the room knows it's a, problem but he's.

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Speaker 1: ALL jj McCarthy's a kid that loses his confidence on

529
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Speaker 1: the field pretty. Quickly so the last thing you want

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Speaker 1: to do is press. Him what do you? DO i,

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Speaker 1: mean what what do you think it's like to BE jj. McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: NOW i mean you had a nice slow growth because

533
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Speaker 1: you were not a first round. Player when you're a

534
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Speaker 1: first round pick and they give up, picks is there

535
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Speaker 1: not more pressure to perform.

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Speaker 5: Immediately there's a lot of pressure for everyone in the locker,

537
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 5: room and they all have their own different forms of.

538
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: Pressure guys that are trying to create a, Role guys

539
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Speaker 5: that are trying to be a, superstar guys that are

540
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 5: trying to be A hall Of, famer guys that are

541
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 5: trying to make the. Team so pressure is for. Everyone WITH,

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Speaker 5: jj they got to just deal with. This this is

543
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: what they. Picked you Had Sam darnold in the building

544
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 5: last year for probably a competitive number where they could

545
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 5: have kept him around for a year and let this kid,

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00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: develop but they didn't decide to do. That they decided

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00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: to go WITH jj. McCarthy so these are the growing

548
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Speaker 5: pains you have to go through with the young quarterback

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Speaker 5: who only has six starts in HIS nfl. Career you,

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Speaker 5: know it's just he's on a team that's probably a

551
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 5: quarterback away from being a really good playoff. Team so

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00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 5: that's the only. Difference usually you see these first round

553
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: draft picks they come in or these very top overall,

554
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 5: picks and they're going into an ecosystem that has a losing,

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00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 5: environment a losing. Team. Uh and that hasn't been the

556
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 5: case FOR. Jj he went to a team that's pretty

557
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 5: much ready to. Go let's go right. Now SO i

558
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 5: think they just got to deal with, this and they

559
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: gotta they gotta be able because the only people that

560
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: really know are the people in that, building because there's

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00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 5: little things and nuances That kevin O'Connell's TEACHING jj McCarthy

562
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 5: that none of us outside of that building. Know and

563
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 5: if he's seeing progression, weekly then that's what he's going

564
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 5: to have to deal.

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Speaker 4: With and he's seeing the.

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Speaker 5: Growth that doesn't mean we don't we can see it

567
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Speaker 5: because there could be things that we don't know what

568
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 5: they're coaching on in.

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Speaker 4: There so they have they have to deal with.

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00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 5: This. Uh this is the hand they, chose and, look

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Speaker 5: he's in a sixth game of his. Career this is

572
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: not an easy thing to pick, up especially in the

573
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 5: hardest position in pro. Sport so he's got to, learn

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00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: and he's got to learn fast because the games are

575
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 5: only going to get harder as the season.

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Speaker 1: Goes one more, question And i've asked you this. Before

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Speaker 1: this is about the time Your patriot teams took. Off

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Speaker 1: explain to people Late november, Football december. Football how Did

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Speaker 1: belichick address? It because you dominated the league for twenty?

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Speaker 1: Years did the discussions, change did the preparation? Change did

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Speaker 1: the game plans? Change as it gets cold and? Windy

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Speaker 1: by the, way rosters now are depleted due to. Injuries everybody's,

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Speaker 1: missing top, Guys how does football change this?

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Speaker 3: Weekend and on.

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Speaker 5: Well this, weekend there's a light at the end of the,

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00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 5: tunnel or going forward After, thanksgiving there's a light at

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00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 5: the end of the. Tunnel everyone knows about the, seedings

588
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 5: everyone knows who's in, it everyone knows who's not in.

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00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 5: It so the urgency level in the building goes through the.

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00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 5: Roof begin part of the seasons about learning what this team.

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00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 5: Is the middle part of this season is about executing

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00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 5: and trying to get this, sea this team ready for

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00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 5: the last part of the, season which is the real

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Speaker 5: part of the season where you put yourself in contention

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00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: to play your best. Football we always talked about playing

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00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 5: your best football at the end of the, season and

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00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 5: a lot of it had to do with, health like

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Speaker 5: you you, mentioned and also you know the teams knowing

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00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 5: what they, are their, identity and then this is the

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Speaker 5: time where, hey we know what we're good, at we

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Speaker 5: know what we're bad, at we know where we're. Vulnerable

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00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: how do we make our team go, out make the

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Speaker 5: least amount of, mistakes have the best week of practice

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Speaker 5: with the highest, urgency and let these guys know that

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Speaker 5: this this doesn't come around a, lot so you have

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 5: to play your best. Football that's that's what it. Was

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Speaker 5: it was just urgency. Preparation it took a little more

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Speaker 5: time to take care of your. Body like you, said

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Speaker 5: a lot of guys are banged. Up but you, know

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Speaker 5: this is the best time of the year because there's

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Speaker 5: a light at the end of the. Tunnel it ain't a.

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00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 5: Train those are the that's the, playoffs they're coming and

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Speaker 5: this is when you start to get that Second, Joel

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Speaker 5: you know those the middle of the, season you're banged.

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Speaker 5: Up first part of the, season you're you're excited because football,

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Speaker 5: started and then you get beat up and you're trying

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Speaker 5: to get the ankle right or the oblique ride or

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Speaker 5: your shoulder.

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Speaker 4: Right and Then.

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Speaker 5: Thanksgiving hits and you get like a, shot you get

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Speaker 5: a shot of adrenaline because you, know this is important football.

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00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 5: Time so if you like football and you like to,

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00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: compete you're in the right business because this time of

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Speaker 5: the year is what that is.

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