WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - James Roday 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.600 Welcome to what I'm calling the branching out episode of 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.280 the Dave Pash Podcast. I'm your host, Dave Pash, longtime 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.640 ESPN play by play announcer and voice of the Arizona Cardinals. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.200 We are presented by bet MGM, the official sports betting 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:23.200 partner of the Arizona Cardinals and Hila River Hotels and Casinos. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.680 You can also follow us on Twitter at pash pot. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.760 You know, one of the things we wanted to accomplish 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.200 with this podcast was to make it unique by having 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.000 on guests from the world of sports and entertainment to 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.800 talk more than just the Arizona Cardinals and the NFL, 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.400 but of course making that part of a conversation. So 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.360 when the NFL schedule was released and the podcast was 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.360 in the works, there was a particular guest that I 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.640 wanted to get on to talk about the cardinals Week 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:57.520 one opponent, the Tennessee Titans. Actor James Rode now known 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.840 as James Rode Rodriguez. He stars in the ABC drama 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.200 A Million Little Things, which debuted in two eighteen and 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.600 is entering year four in prime time. But Rodda is 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:13.280 best known for playing fake psychic Sean Spencer in the 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.040 TV show Psych, which ran for eight seasons from two 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.199 thousand and six to two fourteen and still lives on 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.480 in movie form Psych three This Is Gus is due 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.720 out this winner. Rode is one of the nation's biggest 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.920 Tennessee Titan fans. In fact, if you follow him on 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.880 Twitter or the Titans for that matter, you will see 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:38.319 them retweeting each other constantly. Rode talks about how he 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.080 became a Titans fan, his thoughts on how far this 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.600 team can go this season, and where he was during 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:49.559 the Music City Miracle January eight, two thousand. Rode also 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.920 talks about his hit show Psych, his favorite episode, his 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:58.120 love for Val Kilmer, and wrestler slash actor John Cena. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.440 Sports as a way of bringing people together, especially in 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.120 a family. If the game's on, it's a great reason 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.240 to gather together as a family and root for your 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:13.320 favorite team. A good TV show has the same effect. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.920 It certainly did for my family. No matter how busy 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.760 I was my wife three kids were from two thousand 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.840 and six to twenty fourteen, we always found a way 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.480 to watch the TV show Psych together and then watch 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.080 the reruns over and over again. So if you're looking 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.440 for a good laugh with obscure references to nineteen eighties 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.080 music and movies, some cool mysteries, some semi spooks on 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.680 everything from the Exorcist to werewolves, vampires, and even one 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.920 flow of The Cuckoo's Nest and The Bachelorette. Do yourself 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.280 a favor and check out Psych. Now. Here's James Rode 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:54.239 Rodriguez on the Dave Pash Podcast. James, before we started 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.440 the interview, I talked about a million little things PSYCH 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.680 and I definitely want to go back and touch on 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.120 those things. But when I saw the schedule and that 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.639 the Cardinals were playing the Titans Week one, I knew 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.840 ILL wanted to have you on because you're such a 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.120 huge Titans fan. I always see you tweeting about the 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.680 Titans during the season. I always see the Titans retweeting you. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.520 I know you're from San Antonio, so I'm guessing you 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.920 were an Oilers fan at some point. Tell me how 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:26.520 your fascination with the Titans started. Yeah, man, you're pretty 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.120 intuitive there. Yeah. I grew up in San Antone. You 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.360 get to choose between the Cowboys and the Oilers. My 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.960 entire family were diehard, like obnoxiously die hard. Cowboys fans, 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.640 so I thought it as an opportunity to piss everybody 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.360 off and go against the grain. And you know, the 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.000 laugh was certainly on me for a good chunk of 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:53.600 those early years because the Oilers were horrible and the 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.960 Cowboys were winning Super Bowls. But it all kind of 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.960 balanced out as I got into my twenties and and 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.920 it was really fun to watch the Cowboys suck for 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.040 a while. And now I have to be honest, it's 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.560 been so long since they've done anything that it's really 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.720 not even that satisfying anymore, uh, to watch them, to 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.479 watch them be crappy. So that's that's what it was. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.640 But then, you know, amidst all of that, I really 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.640 did come to love that team, to love the Oilers, 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.240 to love the old Campbell oilers, uh, to truly love 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.640 the Steve McNair and Eddie George oilers, which which are 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.080 the team that moved to Tennessee. So it was a 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.520 really easy decision for me to go with the team 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.960 when when they moved to to Nashville, because I had 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.000 no allegiance to the city of Houston. I really love 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.760 those guys like that was probably the warn moon run 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.720 and shoot was a fun team to watch, but they 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.279 always flamed out in the playoffs. So it was really 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.240 the Eddie and Steve teams that I think define the 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.360 franchise for me and now here I am dude, just 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.560 all these years later have to bleed blue and tighten 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.800 up every year. Well, they're obviously one of the best 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.080 teams in the AFC, so you've got a lot to 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.440 cheer about. Last year, the end was a little bit 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.600 disappointing in the playoffs against Baltimore. What are your thoughts 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.760 on the twenty twenty one season. Are you picking this 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.880 team to make it out of the AFC because obviously 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.720 of Kansas City, you got Buffalo, you still have Baltimore. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.239 Cleveland's going to be much better. But there are people 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.480 out there that feel the Titans because of the addition 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.560 of Julio Jones, the passing attack is better. Yeah, man, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.440 I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't think for a playoff team, 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.120 I don't think our defense could have been much for 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.039 us last year. So the idea that we got a 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.720 couple of new pieces, you know, hopefully can put a 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.800 little more pressure on the quarterback excites me. We got 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.520 a couple of new kids in the secondary. It'll be 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.160 a trial by fire. But if they're as good as advertised, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.599 then I feel like we should make improvements on the 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.680 defensive side of the ball, and then on offense. You know, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.360 if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And we even 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.599 added Julio. Now I think everybody should probably keep their 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:09.240 Julio expectations in check. This is the thirty two going 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.160 on thirty three year old Julio who's been banged up. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.600 But the good news is he's not having to come 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.960 in and be the alpha dog, right He gets to 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.440 come in and take advantage of all the double coverage 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.680 that A J. Brown's going to see. So it's a 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.200 long way of saying, yes, the team looks pretty good 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:30.920 on paper. Cannon Hill continues to sort of defy expectations 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.080 and just get the job done and nobody gives them 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.400 any respect, and I think that I think that drives 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.520 him to play even better. But yeah, for me, I 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.000 think number one, I want to see some improvement on defense, 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.280 and then I feel like I can say, without sounding 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.560 like a Homer, we can play with anybody in the FC, 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.080 no question. Any given Sunday, I'd like us to be 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.040 there right there with the Chiefs and the Bills at 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.240 the end. At the end of the day, your description 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.600 of Julio sounds a lot like what we're saying here 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.120 about AJ Green, who's now with the Cardinals after all 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.560 those years in Cincinnati, thirty two years old, coming off 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.560 an injury. At one point was one of the best 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.480 receivers in the NFL. He's been great. James watching camp, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.800 he looks like he still has it, And I think 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.840 if Julio and You've got a J Brown, we've got 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.760 DeAndre Hopkins out here. So I think there's some similarities 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.720 with the teams. Last year, obviously you couldn't go because 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.920 of COVID. Normally do you try to go to Nashville 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.239 to go to some Titan games, depending on your schedule 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.600 and what you're working on. Definitely had a nice streak 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.240 going there for a while where I probably made it 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.920 to one home game like seven or eight years in 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.760 a row. It's been tough in recent years, not just 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.400 because of the pandemic, but because I can't seem to 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:52.200 stop getting jobs that are in Western Canada, So it 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.400 does make it tricky. Although this year I have a 0:07:54.440 --> 0:08:00.320 big fat circle on Titan's Rams in LA because that's 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:04.040 a much much easier trip to jam into a weekend 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:10.360 and yeah, God willing, I'll I'll be there and we'll 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.880 we'll win. Do you remember where you were and what 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:20.080 was happening during the Music City Miracle. It's one of 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:21.920 those you know, it's it's kind of like when Tyson 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.920 got knocked out by Buster Douglas. It just kind of 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:29.960 burned into your into your brain. I just moved to 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.520 Los Angeles from New York. I was living with my 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.680 best friend in an apartment that we had rented but 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.000 not yet furnished because I was about to start a 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.360 job on a television show and it all happened pretty quickly, 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.720 so we kind of rented it side unseen got there, 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.480 had no furniture because everything was on order, but we 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.160 did have a TV and we were sitting watching the 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.800 game on the floor taken out, and when the Music 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.800 City Miracle happened, we already jumping up and down and 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.239 had all this extra real estate because there was no furniture, 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.000 So we were running around in circles like jumping up 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:13.520 and chest butting one another, like just you know, towing 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:17.240 the line of some real emotionality and then we proceeded 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.000 to watch that replay pretty much on a loop for 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.280 about two weeks because it was it was truly the 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:28.440 most amazing sports moment for me in my forty four 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.000 and a half years. It was just it was incredible. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.560 So you're a couple of years older than Cliff Kingsbury, 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.360 the head coach here with the Cardinals, who, like you, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.440 was born in San Antonio. How familiar with Cliff were 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.920 you growing up? Because he was a really good high 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.200 school football player, excellent player at Texas Tech, and now 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.040 a head coach in the NFL. Yeah. I had certainly 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.680 heard of Cliff, and I knew he threw for buckets 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.480 of yards in that air raid offense, and I was 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.080 I remember being a little disappointed that, you know, we 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.440 didn't get to see that translate in the NFL, because 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.920 I wanted one of those Tech quarterbacks to sort of 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.360 like prove he's not the system part. Maybe Clip would 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.160 be that guy. But there's a lot of Texas dudes 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.360 to put up really gaudy numbers in high school because 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:23.320 Texas just, I mean, football rules Texas. So you know, 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.199 I when I was in high school, we had guys. 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.600 I remember, we had a guy at Baylor. He started 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.600 at Justin high school, which beat us, and then he 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.040 went to Baylor and he put up big numbers there. 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.640 His name was Gerard Douglas and we were all just like, yeah, dude, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.120 sky's a limit. And see him in the NFL. Nope, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.920 just you just never know how it's going to go. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.320 But boy, Texas Texas spits him out. Well, it's interesting 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.560 because Cliff was on this podcast and I asked him 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.920 because he coached Baker Mayfield's coaching Kyler Murray. Now but 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.160 Johnny Manziel, who didn't make it in the NFL, but 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.800 that's not because of the air Raid. But now you're 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.800 seeing Patrick Mahomes, who we coached a ta Baker Mayfield, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.960 other quarterbacks from that air Raid system having success. And 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.560 I asked him, hey, if you were playing today, you know, 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.079 would would you have made it? He didn't really want 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.120 to answer that, but I but I agree with you, James. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.520 I people I think forget how good of a player 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.600 he was at Texas Tech. Yeah, and he was a leader, 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.120 and you know, he had intangibles, which is obviously a 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.360 big thing that we probably don't talk enough enough about 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.920 because every year we watched the combine and we and 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.559 we listened to all the pundits and it's just all 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.600 these athletically gifted like freaks, right, But then if you 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.400 look at the ones that actually stay, have staying power 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.480 and succeed in the league, and it's because they have 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.800 those other things. You know, they know how to lead dudes, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.800 they know how to you know, be grace under pressure, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.320 you know how to read defenses. It's all it's all 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.280 the stuff that that you know, you can't really put 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:00.360 a price on. But it's always those guys you know 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.319 that that pop and go on to have great careers. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.640 You're also a Spurs fan. Are you as much of 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.360 a Spurs fan as you are a Titans fan? And 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:15.080 who's your favorite Spur of all time? I'll be honest, man, 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.880 I got really we're all spoiled with the Spurs. I 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:22.559 mean playoffs, I don't know, four hundred and ninety years 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.720 in a row, five rings. I can't lie and say 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:30.520 that I was as hardcore of a Spurs fan growing 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.280 up as I was an Oilers fan, because I wasn't, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.359 but they were certainly my team and it's been incredible 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.440 to watch them win and watch Pop's legacy unfold and 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.360 very very grateful as a sports fan to have a 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.640 franchise that has won some championships, but who I would 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:54.120 probably trade four of those five for one super Bowl. Man, 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.720 that's the big cahuna, and my first love is always 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.200 going to be the Oilers and the title favorite Spur 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.960 of all time. It's really close between Tim and Manum. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:10.280 But I yah, gosh, you don't have to choose man 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.079 you don't. I don't if you like both the same 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:17.480 look they've They've been equally important to the Spur success. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.680 It's true. It's true. I also love David just because 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.280 he was such a gentleman. But I might have to 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.480 go Manu. I might have to go Manu. Okay, I 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.200 you know, I do NBA for ESPN, and the most 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.360 intimidating thing. A lot of times as the play by 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.240 play guy, you have a reporter who does the interviews 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.319 and you've probably seen these, the interviews in between quarters, 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.679 and Greg Popovich is never in a good mood to 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.280 do those interviews, and a lot of times I gotta 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.560 do them if we don't have a report of the 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.240 play by play guy. Now, if I'm working with Jeff 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:49.920 Van Gundhy, I'll ask Jeff, hey, can you just go 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:51.559 do it? Please? So I don't have because he'll be 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.240 nice to you you're a coach. But I'm telling if 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.760 there's a Spurs game in LA, I'm gonna say, I'm 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.000 gonna ask, can we get James Rode to come do 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:04.199 the interview with Pump? Dude? I would gladly get my 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.520 head bitten off by Pop. It would be an honor 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.000 and a privilege because, you know, beyond you know, his 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.400 legacy as a coach, which is obviously cemented, I just 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:19.400 have so much respect for Pop the man. You know, 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.920 the stances that he's taken over the years, how I've spoken, 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.360 he's been, how he doesn't really care what anybody thinks. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.440 He just sort of he knows what he feels right 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.320 in his heart, and he's always sort of stood by 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.800 his laurels, and you know, and you kind of sort 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.000 of see the Pop coaching tree has sort of followed 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.880 that route as well, because you know, because he's such 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.840 a great mentor. But yeah, I just what a great 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:47.240 guy for sports period. Look, I know people listening are 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.640 interested in your takes on the Titans, the NFL, of 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.120 the Spurs, but they also want to hear about your 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.760 acting career. A Million Little Things and of course psych 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.720 Let's start with A Million Little Things in four premiere 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:07.200 September twenty second, you play Gary Mendez. Anything that we 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.000 can look forward to with season four that you can, 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.360 any nugget you can throw out there about season four, Yeah, 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:17.120 you know, it's having been on another show that that 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.360 kind of that was that was blessed with a long run. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:24.800 We're we're entering that phase where you really gotta put 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.920 up or shut up. Like I feel like it's the season, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.520 you know, season three and fours of shows that kind 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.360 of dictate whether they're gonna be able to maintain the 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.960 level that they're on or they're gonna start sliding. So 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.320 I think we all kind of feel that going into 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.760 season four, and we kinda we just want to kind 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.240 of blow it out of the box. So we've got 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.920 some big stuff coming up that should be fun for 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.680 the cast, fun for our fans. Anybody who actually watches 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.000 A Million Little Things knows exactly what to expect as 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.600 a baseline, which is, you know, a bunch of middle 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.600 aged people making terrible decisions and paying yearly for it. 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.960 That'll never change, Uh, it'll be. It'll be as hardcore 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.880 and and and dramatic and painful as it ever has been. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.600 But I do think there's a sense of responsibility of like, hey, 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:17.480 let's you know, let's keep the level up. Let's let's 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:22.480 push hard um quarterback franchise quarterback, right. I mean, you 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.400 enter your foy. This is the year. You gotta you 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.360 gotta win it. This is it and you never know. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.920 I mean, TV is such a fickle industry. You just 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:31.880 don't know when when the end is going to come. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.760 So you want to make sure that you're l weighing 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.800 it no matter what. That way, if the plug gets pulled, 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.360 you know, you left it all on the field. And 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.200 I think we're all collectively of the same mindset, like, 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.280 you know, let's do this, let's leave it all out 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.000 there and then come what may. Psych the TV show 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.640 ended after a great eight year run, But you're still 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:57.560 doing Psych movies? Are you currently filming Psych three? And 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:02.320 how's it going? Psych three is in the can. We 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:06.399 had a blast making it earlier this summer. When it 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:12.040 will drop is up to the Peacock streaming service, which 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.359 is a thing that you have to subscribe to, I believe, 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:20.959 But offers a free subscription where I think you just 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.199 have to watch lots and lots of advertisements. But you know, 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.520 my gut is they usually like to drop Psych around 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:34.159 the holidays just because it's blue sky, feel good and 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.080 people are always together with their families watching TV. So 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.160 if I had to guess, I would say no November 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.960 December for Psych three. But don't quote me on that, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.440 because those decisions get made above my favorite YEP. I 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.680 certainly understand that. And I got a geek out though, man, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.639 because like another reason I wanted to have you on 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.280 because we have mostly athletes and coaches on. We've had 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:03.080 Kurt Warner on, You've had Buddha Baker, Cliff Kingsbury, Steve Leavy, 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.359 Bryan Greasy, Mena Kimes from ESPN. But like when I, 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.119 along with the Cardinals came up with the idea for 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.159 the podcast and trying to get guests from all walks 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.439 of life to talk sports, I wanted to get you 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.280 because Psych is It's not only my favorite show because 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.639 I still watch episodes from ten years ago, but like 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.359 my kids, and my kids don't get half the jokes. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.480 Could half the jokes are from from your air and 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.520 my air of the eighties. And it's funny because so 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.880 I was in Batman Versus Superman Donna Justice. I had 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.680 a small role that actually got cut out of the movie, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.120 but if you watch the Snyder cut, it's it's in there. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.240 And I'm a football announcer, so I'm not doing anything 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.080 different than I normally do. And it was funny man, 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.560 because Zack Snyder is directing, and he's directing our scene, 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:51.280 and he's laughing during our scene while we're doing the scene. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.840 And I figured it out after talking to him after. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.360 I think because he's used to actors, he's not used 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.520 to real broadcast masters, that it made him laugh. He 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.280 just got a kick out of it. And the reason 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.400 I'm bringing that up is I'm curious your character, Sean Spencer. 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:13.480 How much is James Rode Rodriguez like Sean Spencer. First 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.320 of all, congratulations for pop in your chair. You're a 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.280 film star now. It doesn't matter if it ended up 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.320 on the cutting room floor or not. We all know 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.600 you were there. Dave, you did it. I have the 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.960 pictures to prove it. James, I still lugan. Bill and 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.400 I were not supposed to take any pictures, but we did. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.480 We Henry Caville wouldn't deal with us, but we did 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.919 it when he wasn't watching. You found the truth. You 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.160 found the truth in that announcer. He had a life, 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.480 he left the stamp, and now we all know about it. 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:44.399 As far as Sean goes, you know, I grew up 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.840 admiring Val Kilmer in a very sort of like hero 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.199 worship sort of way, and Real Genius for me, was 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:57.119 probably one of the seminal films that made me think, hey, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.159 I might want to be an actor. So when I 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.879 read the script for psych I immediately saw it as 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:08.760 an opportunity, you know, to pay tribute to Chris Knight 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.480 in Real Genius, and that's basically what I started doing 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.800 out of the gate was almost like an homage, almost 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.760 like a love letter to that character. And then because 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.280 we lasted so long and the show went in so 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:27.639 many different directions, it's impossible for any character that you 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:32.199 play for that long to not start taking on, you know, 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:36.160 elements of yourself. That's just sort of it's inevitable. It's 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:39.040 also a lot of fun. I mean, Julie and I 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.960 were doing sort of bits that were in jokes for 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.440 just us and putting them on camera because we could 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.520 if the line becomes a little blurry as it goes along, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:56.879 I would say, you know, no human with any common 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.520 sense can live their life the way that Sean does. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.720 And there was a Peter Pan quality that was always very, 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.520 very fun to play because we know that in our 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.920 real lives we have to think about consequences and other 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:16.760 people and responsibility and being pragmatic and practical. So, you know, 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:18.640 being able to play chart that didn't think about any 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:24.600 of those things was so much fun and probably something 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.480 frankly never have as much fun doing. Again, the show 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.719 was so well done. The way they connected you as 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.600 a child with your dad, Corbyn Burnson, and then fast 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:40.200 forwarding to how an incident from your childhood then played 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:44.720 out in the whole fake psychic world was just It's 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:48.320 just hilarious and so well done, and it's got such 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.680 a cult following. You call them psycho, so I guess 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.359 I'm a psycho. Do you embrace that people connect you 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.600 with Sean Spencer because you've done so many other things 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:00.200 and obviously what you're doing now with a million little 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.880 things on ABC is completely different from you playing Sean Spencer. 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.320 I love it, man, That job changed my life. It's 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.119 also a group of people that that I love deeply 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.320 that will be in my life forever. We were, We 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.880 really did become a family. It's kind of us. It's 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.640 a cliche when you hear that about any job, but 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:24.000 I think the truest version of that is when you 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:27.359 kind of the least expected, and lightning is in a 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:30.080 bottle and planets a line and something happens and you 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.199 just never saw it coming. And that's exactly what Psych was. 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:37.080 And and for eight seasons, you know, we were we 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.560 were living a dream. You know, we were on a 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.720 fledgling network that was still kind of trying to find 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.080 an identity, and as a result, we got a really 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:51.359 long leash and an opportunity to become what we became, 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.800 and by today's television standards, that is so rare, so 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.600