WEBVTT - #737 Packers Unscripted: Back from the bye

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkoitz. We're coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>hear from our studios at lambeau Field, with the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>back from their bye week and looking ahead to a

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday afternoon matchup against the Denver Broncos on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>I will start by apologizing for my voice if it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds a little off. I am slightly under the weather,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't feel as bad as I sound. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually feeling pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you sound bad, though, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you sound like gritty like.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying I need to bring this voice to the

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<v Speaker 1>show more often.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean the type of voice like that you

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<v Speaker 2>walk in the bar, everybody starts looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>You, you know, I mean like you command the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, command the room. No, I like it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's uh you're made for this, but I appreciate you tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I at workout. I'll try to replicate some other time

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to talking about some issues with the Packers. Though, Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to mention this because on our last show.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we took our little break heading into the bye weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>I brought up, or at least raised the question as

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<v Speaker 1>to whether we were just headed for another NFC championship

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<v Speaker 1>rematch between the Eagles and the forty nine Ers. The

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<v Speaker 1>way those two teams are playing, the way they were dominating.

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<v Speaker 1>And lo and behold what happens right after we discuss

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<v Speaker 1>that possibility. A couple of backup quarterbacks with outstanding defenses

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<v Speaker 1>behind them pull off the upsets, and the Browns knock

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<v Speaker 1>off the Niners, the Jets knock off the Eagles. No

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<v Speaker 1>one in the NFL in twenty twenty three now is unbeaten,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Eagles in forty nine Ers may still meet

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<v Speaker 1>again for the NFC Championship. But it just goes to

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<v Speaker 1>show you that it's a long season. Any given Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those, all those cliches, it's a week to

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<v Speaker 1>week le and that was quite an interesting week of

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<v Speaker 1>NFL football, even though the Packers were not participating.

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<v Speaker 2>In the spot for Jinks is real. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the other thing we learned this week. Hey listen,

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<v Speaker 2>So I had an amazing opportunity. This actually was the

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<v Speaker 2>first week and I ever sat down and watched football

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<v Speaker 2>with my son, which was a lot of fun. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched Vikings and Bears, I watched Lions in Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously saw the matchup you talked about with the

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine Ers and Browns Eagles all these games, But

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<v Speaker 2>what was the most interesting to me is you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about teams that are considered like the leaders, the front runners. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>they've also developed these patterns, and for San Francisco, they

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<v Speaker 2>were done in by what has ultimately been one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that has stopped them from becoming a Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl championship team, and that's injuries. Trent Williams goes out

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<v Speaker 2>of that game, returns but still gets banged up. Christian

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<v Speaker 2>McCaffrey gets dinged up at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 2>Deebo Samuel obviously has the shoulder injury ends up costing

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<v Speaker 2>me my fantasy game this week. We won't go into

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<v Speaker 2>that though, please, But when you're playing a team like

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland that is as game as they are defensively, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns defense is one of the more underrated units

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<v Speaker 2>in the league considering how prolific they've actually been here

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<v Speaker 2>as of late. And then the Jets man I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what else you can say. Four takeaways. They

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<v Speaker 2>won that game for their team, but they also did

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<v Speaker 2>it by beating a five to zero football team who's

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<v Speaker 2>known for their offense explosion. Here the last couple seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets are for real and unfortunately for them, the

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers injury happened. But my goodness, I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>defense is going to keep them in a lot of ballgames.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a lot of stirring going on in New

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<v Speaker 1>York now because there was the video of Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>casually playing catch and whatnot. He's already off the crutches

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<v Speaker 1>after the Achilles surgery, and Robert Salas made the comment

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<v Speaker 1>that Aaron Rodgers is on a mission. Obviously, the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>mission if they can somehow get Aaron Rodgers back before

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season. Their mission is to still

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<v Speaker 1>be in the hunt somehow, because then they feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they will really have a shot. And you mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns. I did not realize this until I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this statistic on Sunday night, and I actually put it

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<v Speaker 1>in Monday Mornings Insider inbox when I was working on

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<v Speaker 1>the column. The Cleveland Browns have allowed one thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>two total yards through five games, which is like the

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<v Speaker 1>third fewest yards allowed through five games, like all time,

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<v Speaker 1>like ever in the NFL, And it's the fewest allowed

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<v Speaker 1>through five games since like nineteen seventy one or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, over fifty years. What the Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>Browns are doing on defense? I tell you, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a weekend I thought, for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, not in every instant, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend that was ruled by defenses in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw, I mean, and this is how backup quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>can get surprise victories so to speak, right, can get

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<v Speaker 1>upset victories. Is when is when defense is fined way

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<v Speaker 1>to take over games and then it sort of becomes

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<v Speaker 1>anything goes down the stretch. You know, the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers still have a chance to kick a field goal

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<v Speaker 1>win the game, but they miss it. The uh the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles still get the ball back at the end with

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<v Speaker 1>a chance, right, but you know, the fourth down pass

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<v Speaker 1>deep down the field, you know, double coverage gets knocked away.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a there's gonna be a lot of interesting

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<v Speaker 1>activity here now that now that nobody's undefeated and the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions are five and one now sitting sitting atop the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC analysts are asking, are the Lions maybe the best

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<v Speaker 1>team in the NFC. I don't know if I'd go

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<v Speaker 1>quite that far just yet, because up until last Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles in the forty nine ers look like they

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<v Speaker 1>were in, you know, on another on another level so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh.

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<v Speaker 1>But but take nothing away from the Lions. They went

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<v Speaker 1>down to Tampa Bay and only gave up a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of field goals to Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers, and

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<v Speaker 1>they lost their number one running back to an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't seem to miss a beat offensively either.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirteen three now the best record in the NFL over

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<v Speaker 2>the last sixteen games, the way they finished last season

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<v Speaker 2>and then being able to carry that momentum into this year,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been really impressive to watch Jared Goff and Amanael

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Brown have developed a chemistry there that I think

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks and receivers always look to achieve. I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing the big play potential now that Jamison Williams is back,

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<v Speaker 2>Jamiir Gibbs is going to be thrown into the fire

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<v Speaker 2>potentially here he's been dealing with some of his own injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they're going to lose David Montgomery for a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the adjustment that's going to have to be made.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mike I said it at the end of last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said it in that regular season finale against

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers. Detroit's defense statistically was not very good last year,

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<v Speaker 2>but they made a change in the second half of

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<v Speaker 2>that season. They got better towards the end of that season,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've just continued to get better. So now you're

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<v Speaker 2>actually starting to see the statistics lining up with the

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<v Speaker 2>way that they perform. And in every single way of

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<v Speaker 2>that game, they dictated what Baker Mayfield could do. In

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<v Speaker 2>addition to the fact that Tampa Bay doesn't have a run game,

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<v Speaker 2>they've really struggled on the ground, but they didn't allow

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<v Speaker 2>Baker to pull off his magic to find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to win that game. I just thought, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at Detroit and what constitutes being a good team, a

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<v Speaker 2>double digit win team, a twelve win team, they played

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<v Speaker 2>that style of football in this thing because they beat

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<v Speaker 2>him in all three phases.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the efficiency that we started to see the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of last season from Jared Goff with Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson as the offensive coordinator in Detroit. Not a fluke

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<v Speaker 1>by any means, because Jared Goff is continuing to be

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<v Speaker 1>that efficient quarterback. And I would argue, you know, losing

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery and with what Goff did? I mean, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was forty four pass attempts against the Buccaneers, but

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<v Speaker 1>yet they held a thirteen minute advantage in time of possession.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pure ball control passing. And yeah, the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>didn't light up the scoreboard, but in not lighting up

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<v Speaker 1>the scoreboard, they still completely controlled and dominated that game

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<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, on both sides of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>So and those are the games, by the way, that

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa's won this year. That's how they got to three

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<v Speaker 2>and one. They've won these scrappy games, and the Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>Lions just completely took that away. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, those are the teams at the top of the NFC.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the teams that the Packers are chasing. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers will enter this Sunday's game at Denver with a

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<v Speaker 1>two to three mark, a two game losing streak unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>heading into the bye week. Now the Packers are coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of that. And I'm just gonna throw this as

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<v Speaker 1>an open ended question at you, Wes, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at everything that's happened over the first five games here

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers. Now you're coming out of the bye,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got twelve straight here before the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. What is the I guess I would say

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest area or the top of mind thing for

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<v Speaker 1>you that you feel the Packers need to improve upon

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get things going back in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Win the first quarter, and you need to play a

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<v Speaker 2>complete game in order to win the game. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't come out of the gates, there's only these

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<v Speaker 2>teams are so talented, Mike, and there's so much parity

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<v Speaker 2>in this league. You can't spot an opponent, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the first four hundred meters of a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two hundred meter run. You have to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to keep pace if nothing else, And that's where Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay's really struggled. I mean, I raised the point in

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<v Speaker 2>Insider Inbox. One of the only things that Denver's actually

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<v Speaker 2>done pretty well up until last week against Kansas City

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<v Speaker 2>was they put points on the board in the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually are outscoring teams forty one to thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>in the first quarter, and that's not because they had

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty four points in one first quarter. No, they

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<v Speaker 2>was just consistently putting up seven to fourteen points. The

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<v Speaker 2>problem for Denver is they're the opposite of green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>in that they have ten points in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>They just have not been able to sustain that throughout games.

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<v Speaker 2>They've had injuries in turnovers kind of haunt them. For

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<v Speaker 2>green Bay's standpoint, they've been one of the more productive

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<v Speaker 2>teams in the National Football League in the second half,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly that third quarter. But it's making sure and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't dig that hole early on, So how do you

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<v Speaker 2>stop that. It comes back to sustaining drives offensively, It

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<v Speaker 2>comes back to that initial first down. You go back

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<v Speaker 2>to that opener against Chicago. It wasn't perfect. They got

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<v Speaker 2>the ball at midfield because of a gutsy play by

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears. Yeah, but it was how they took what

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<v Speaker 2>basically was almost a turnover tight play and produce points

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<v Speaker 2>off of it. That's one thing green Bay for the

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<v Speaker 2>last month is just really struggled to do. They have

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<v Speaker 2>to find ways to come out of the gates and

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<v Speaker 2>sustain a drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the starts have certainly been one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>if not the most concerning issue for the Packers. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way I look at and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying the same thing you are, but maybe with

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<v Speaker 1>slightly different language, because maybe it'll you know how I am.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I am with regard to crunch time

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<v Speaker 1>and how much that matters in this league. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>making the plays when you've got to make them in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter, late in games when things are tight.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll talk about a few more of those later

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<v Speaker 1>on as well. So you can't win a game, You

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<v Speaker 1>can't win a game, generally speaking, with a fast start

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. But as you talked about, if you can,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can come out of the gates with some

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<v Speaker 1>production and at least keep pace, you get off to

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<v Speaker 1>a decent start in a game, it just increases your

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<v Speaker 1>margin for air the rest of the way. What we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen with the Packers, because they've gotten off touch such

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<v Speaker 1>slow starts, is then you get into the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in comeback mode and your margin for error is

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<v Speaker 1>almost nil. Can't you can't you know, you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake on offense where you cross midfield and then

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<v Speaker 1>throw an interception because you're just too far behind you

0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.120
<v Speaker 1>haven't made enough good things happen, the defense gets in

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<v Speaker 1>a position where it can't allow one scoring drive, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half, because the offense is too far behind.

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<v Speaker 1>So a stronger start will increase this team's margin for air.

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<v Speaker 1>Because these games are not going to go perfectly. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know we talk about the youth a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, and the Packers are still working through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that, but those things are going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to come up where it's not always going to

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<v Speaker 1>look smooth, it's not always going to look perfect. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you can put yourself in a position where you

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<v Speaker 1>have a little bit more of a margin for air,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a chance at crunch time to make

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<v Speaker 1>the plays that you need to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's even go back to that Detroit game against green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay because this also probably feeds into what Packers need

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<v Speaker 2>to do a little bit better down these last twelve games.

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay did a really good job against David Montgomery

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<v Speaker 2>in that game for the most part, but they kept

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<v Speaker 2>going back to Montgomery over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>They created some second in short opportunities, some third and

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<v Speaker 2>short opportunities, and then later on in that fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 2>when he was starting to get up to twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, twenty seven touches. That's when things started to

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<v Speaker 2>rupture a little bit more. Green Bay has really struggled

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<v Speaker 2>to generate those plays offensively. You know, you look at

0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the time of possession. I threw this stat and insider

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<v Speaker 2>inbox two in Matt Lafleur's first four years as Packers

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<v Speaker 2>head coach, win or lose playoffs are now NFC Championship

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<v Speaker 2>game or not making the playoffs. They've been a top

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<v Speaker 2>five team in time of possession. Time of possession isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a b all end all stat. I will always say that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is an indication of overall efficiency. Yeah. Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay right now, I believe is in twenty eighth or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty ninth. They just haven't won that phase. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>because of not sustaining drives. It's because of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things that have happened defensively. Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>needs to get back to that, to the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the roots of this offense and what they do well

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<v Speaker 2>because win or lose, that was what they always kind

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<v Speaker 2>of were able to hang their hat on, is that

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna make you play defense. We're gonna make guys

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and have to give energy every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna give our defense time to rest on the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on the other side of things, green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>struggled to find that. I think that partially has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with some of the issues with the run game,

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<v Speaker 2>but it also comes down to the situational football elements

0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.160
<v Speaker 2>that Green Bay struggled with, not so much in the

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<v Speaker 2>red area like last year, but in some of the

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<v Speaker 2>early down stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what you said too about sustaining drives, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean or I go with that as well as is

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things and Matt Lafleur's talked about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot in terms of the Packers have to avoid the

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<v Speaker 1>negative plays and whether that's you know, we saw like

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<v Speaker 1>against New Orleans it was a lot of penalties and

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<v Speaker 1>some other games it's been tackles for loss or in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of the Raiders game, there were the sacks

0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and what Max Crosby was doing in the offensive backfield

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. You have to You're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to eliminate them, but you have to cut down

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<v Speaker 1>on those negative plays that are putting you behind the

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<v Speaker 1>chains and making it difficult to sustain those drives. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the other thing I will say, and this really

0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.600
<v Speaker 1>goes for both sides of the ball, is you have

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<v Speaker 1>to make the plays that are there. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at you know, why why are the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>two and three right now? Because all these games, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly the close ones, they always hinge on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of plays here or there. You know, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta game and there were a couple of interceptions

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<v Speaker 1>that were in guys hands that were dropped. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a third and one on offense where the hole was

0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.560
<v Speaker 1>there and it wasn't converted. You know, right before the

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<v Speaker 1>final interception against the Raiders on that last drive, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of drop passes that could have moved the chains

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<v Speaker 1>and put the offense in a better position. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>all plays that are there to be made, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make them. When you're the team that makes them,

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<v Speaker 1>your odds of winning go way up. When you let

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<v Speaker 1>those opportunities get away, things shift, you know, to the opponent,

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<v Speaker 1>and their chances are the ones that rise. So the

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<v Speaker 1>plays have been there for the Packers, and not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that making those plays was going to guarantee some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a victory, but boy, their chances of winning

0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.880
<v Speaker 1>those games, we're gonna go We're gonna go up dramatically.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if they just make more of those

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<v Speaker 1>plays that are there, they put themselves in better positions.

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<v Speaker 2>Since you and I are just Monday morning quarterbacks now

0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.520
<v Speaker 2>that just sit around and watch football on the weekends. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>did you get a chance to watch Chargers and Cowboys?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get actually watch most of the game Monday night?

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<v Speaker 2>So perfect example that because we just it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>about Green Bay. It's what other teams do, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between a win and a loss sometimes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think about that. Keenan Allen played a great game

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday night, Monday night. Excuse me, he completely broke

0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's blank. The cornerback from the Cowboys completely

0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.720
<v Speaker 2>broke his ankles right beat him with the double move.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy didn't just get lost on the play. He

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<v Speaker 2>actually fell down and he's going up the sideline there

0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.000
<v Speaker 2>justin Herbert kind of airmails. The pass just overthrows him,

0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.720
<v Speaker 2>just standing in the pocket, not running. Ornything just overthrows him.

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<v Speaker 2>It ends up. You know, Alan reaches out for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably at the very least if he beats the safety

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a touchdown, but at the very

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<v Speaker 2>least it's going to be an explosive play, probably twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five yards. Alan misses him. You think about the

0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.840
<v Speaker 2>difficulties that La had trying to move the ball against

0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.040
<v Speaker 2>that Dallas defense. If you hit that explosive difference in

0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.080
<v Speaker 2>the ballgame. Conversely, Cowboys have probably one of their worst

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<v Speaker 2>play call, no disrespect to Mike McCarthy, but probably one

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<v Speaker 2>of their worst play calls of the entire game. Play

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<v Speaker 2>is completely falling apart. They're trying to run like the

0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:01.000
<v Speaker 2>screen game or something. Dak is under pressure. He fires

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<v Speaker 2>off this pass that Tony Pollard. Pollard makes one cornerback

0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.720
<v Speaker 2>miss and takes it up the field for sixty yards

0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:10.159
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. That that's the difference when you execute in

0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.280
<v Speaker 2>areas of the game where you're not supposed to execute

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't make the plays that are there to

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<v Speaker 2>be made.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that mistackle, the mistackle on the dump off pass

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<v Speaker 1>to Pollard maybe was the biggest play in the entire game.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it might be. Yeah, it turned it turned

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<v Speaker 1>a modest gain into a into an explosive play that

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<v Speaker 1>completely that completely changed things. Again, it's another another example

0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of the the plays that are there. It doesn't take

0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 1>anything magic, It doesn't take anything herculean to make it happen.

0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.480
<v Speaker 1>When it's there, when it's right in front of you,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta make it. And uh And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers have had those opportunities and I think they can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they they'll have the ability to generate more

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<v Speaker 1>of those opportunities as these young players on offense continue

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<v Speaker 1>to grow. The other thing I will say too, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know exactly where the Packers are health wise

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<v Speaker 1>right now. They were back for a post by week

0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:10.159
<v Speaker 1>practice on Monday. Aaron Jones and Darnell Savage, having missed,

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.800
<v Speaker 1>slashed exited the previous game. They were back on the

0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.159
<v Speaker 1>on the practice field. Devandre Campbell Kuay Walker were not

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<v Speaker 1>just yet. But the other thing I'll say too, And

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<v Speaker 1>this echoes a little bit of what Matt Lafleur had

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<v Speaker 1>said before the break, and it dovetails off of the

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<v Speaker 1>point I just made if and when, Assuming the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get Aaron Jones back at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope it's this week, maybe it's not. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but Aaron Jones is not the is not the cure

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<v Speaker 1>all fix all for everything because a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>things I was just talking about about making the plays

0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that are there to be made, those have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with Aaron Jones being absent from from the ballgame.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are plays that other guys can make. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones reinsertion into this offense would be a huge boost.

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<v Speaker 1>It will definitely help a lot of things. But the

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<v Speaker 1>mentality for the players, and I know that coaches certainly

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.640
<v Speaker 1>have this mentality as well, it can't be that Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is just going to is going to fix everything

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<v Speaker 1>because because this this this is the ultimate team sport,

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<v Speaker 1>and the opportunities have been there for others as well.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. I mean that was what ultimately you

0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 2>think about where guys have originally stepped up and you

0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.159
<v Speaker 2>know Christian Watson where he made the most of his

0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.440
<v Speaker 2>opportunities later in that season, Romeo Dobbs stepping up early

0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.760
<v Speaker 2>in the season when they didn't have Watson last year. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's how guys established themselves in these offenses. And you know,

0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.159
<v Speaker 2>you go back to that final sequence and not to

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<v Speaker 2>put on any one specific player, any specific phase, but

0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.440
<v Speaker 2>there were opportunities to catch the football and they did

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<v Speaker 2>not come up with them. So what ends up happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love has to do a little bit more heroics

0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and it leads to an interception in an end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's put He's put in a third and ten

0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that quite frankly shouldn't have been third and ten.

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<v Speaker 2>And look at the end of the Tampa was not

0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 2>going to win the game. But look at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the Tampa game too, where when you're in third

0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and ten and you're just taking streaks to the end zone,

0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.159
<v Speaker 2>it just shots the end zone, that's all you can

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Probability is not going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from a whole bunch of Packers assistant coaches

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday after practice, we heard from the coordinators as

0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.919
<v Speaker 1>well as the defensive assistance. Again, I'll just throw it

0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.879
<v Speaker 1>out to you open ended. Anything that came out of

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.919
<v Speaker 1>those media sessions that sort of struck a chord or

0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.159
<v Speaker 1>stuck in your mind that you heard from from one

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of the coaches about a particular player or something going

0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:55.840
<v Speaker 1>on with the team right now.

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<v Speaker 2>First off, just to mention it because we just got

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.360
<v Speaker 2>done talking about it, but hearing Stenovich's perspective on where

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 2>the Packers' offensive coordinator Adam Stenovich his perspective on where

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<v Speaker 2>the offense is at right now after these five games.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing that you and Iden already just discussed, but where

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.680
<v Speaker 2>the Packers need to get to, where the offensive line

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.359
<v Speaker 2>needs to get to, where the young nucleus around Jordan

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Love needs to produce, and ultimately just trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>some win back in their sales. That's been a big

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<v Speaker 2>line that I've been pushing an inbox. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>really think, I mean, you cannot take the Denver Broncos

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<v Speaker 2>for granted whatsoever, but five and one one in five,

0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.359
<v Speaker 2>the Packers just need to get a win. They need

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<v Speaker 2>to get that feeling of what it's like to win again,

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<v Speaker 2>because while while the New Orleans win was great and

0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>it felt awesome in that fourth quarter, you remember what

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:43.280
<v Speaker 2>it looked like the first three quarters until you had

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<v Speaker 2>that comeback. They got to go back to defeating opponent

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 2>again like they did against the Bears. I think that

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 2>can be a huge thing for them. The other aspect

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>of it actually goes over to Ryan Downer in the

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.760
<v Speaker 2>safety position, because he was asked about Rudy Ford, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, Rudy, when we're talking about guys that have

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<v Speaker 2>capitalized on their opportunities, Rudy's probably one of the best

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 2>examples of that so far. A lot of questions for

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 2>the Packers at the safety position. There was a wide

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<v Speaker 2>open competition throughout the summer of who was going to

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 2>line up next to Darnell Savage. Ford signed here after

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<v Speaker 2>leaving Jacksonville last September. He signed here, duing part to

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity he was hoping to get on defense. We

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<v Speaker 2>all knew everyone in the NFL saw what he could

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<v Speaker 2>do as a gunner as a coverage player. He wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to show that I can my skills

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<v Speaker 2>on special teams can translate to defense. And all the

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<v Speaker 2>dude has done in that time since is take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of that hasn't been perfect, but when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the PFF staff right now that he's leading the league

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<v Speaker 2>and run stops, he has two more interceptions after back

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<v Speaker 2>to back games, Packers have needed somebody to provide a

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<v Speaker 2>lift here defensively, and I don't think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>coincidence that one of the better overall defensive performances Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay got this season came after Rudy Ford was able

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<v Speaker 2>to capitalize on an interception. Hearing Downard talk about how

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<v Speaker 2>this was a guy that has finally gotten his opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>and capitalized on it, I think that is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the when there's been injuries, when there's been opportunities, when

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<v Speaker 2>you've looked for guys to step up, Rudy Ford has

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<v Speaker 2>been one of those guys that I think has responded.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would agree, I think, and I had featured

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<v Speaker 1>him in my in my What you might have missed

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<v Speaker 1>with some video clips from the game against the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, aside from getting the interception, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Ford played a really solid game, especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>run support. The other thing that stood out to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and we heard it from a couple of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive coaches is that, yes, of course they want

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<v Speaker 1>to get Devandre Campbell and Kway Walker back in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the defense as soon as possible, But the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive play did not take some huge step back with

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah McDuffie and Eric Wilson filling in at those inside

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker spots, and I think that speaks to the preparation

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys. The I mean, Eric Wilson's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a long time you know, relative to what's on

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<v Speaker 1>this Packers roster. He's a longtime veteran in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>He's played a lot of football, and he, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he just stepped in and did his thing out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of, you know, he's kind of an undersized

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's only about two hundred and thirty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not not as you know, as big as a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like Campbell or or Walker, but he's certainly willing

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<v Speaker 1>to throw his body around in there. And we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>McDuffie making, you know, the progression that he's made since

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<v Speaker 1>he came here as a six round pick out of

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<v Speaker 1>Boston College. Packers want to get their starters back in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But but that defensive performance against the Raiders, it held

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<v Speaker 1>up in large part because of those guys stepping in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I think some credit is due there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot about them too, if I may, just

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<v Speaker 2>because arguably, I think Kuway has probably been their best

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<v Speaker 2>all around defensive player so far this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy he makes the tackles that are there, but he

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<v Speaker 2>also the way he's triggering this year is different, and

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<v Speaker 2>the way he's collapsing on the line of scrimmage. You

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<v Speaker 2>take that out of the defense. In that second half,

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<v Speaker 2>I had real questions about what was going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>with Josh Jacobs. But side of just that one twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four yard run to the edge, Green Bay still bottled

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<v Speaker 2>that up, and I thought that was a big credit

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<v Speaker 2>to Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I may quibble with you a little bit, not

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<v Speaker 1>to take anything away from Walker, but if I were

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<v Speaker 1>to pick a defensive MVP through the first five games,

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<v Speaker 1>I might have to say, Raseuell Douglas. Yeah, know that

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<v Speaker 1>I know that he gave you know, he gave up

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown against the Lions when he got fooled. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there was the whole conversation after the game about Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we plan that just for you. We knew you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to bite on this move. Whatever, Hey, that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the cat and mouse game that's played in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Rasseul Douglas to me, has he's he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of that that turnover machine in some respects in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one when he first got here and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was thrown into things and he was making, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting these key interceptions. Then you know, he he settled in,

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<v Speaker 1>did his thing last year. But I'm it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>he is a he is almost a different player this

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<v Speaker 1>year than he was last year. There's something something about

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<v Speaker 1>something about as approach, his swagger, just his his attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, that he looks a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different. Maybe he's just that much more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>in this defense now that he's had you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of training camps and all that to get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>But really like what we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing his back outside. I mean he spent the off

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<v Speaker 2>season outside too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. Last last year there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of experimentation going on with where he was lining up.

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<v Speaker 2>I respected what the idea was there, because you look

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<v Speaker 2>at him, he has a similar size to a Charles Woodson.

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<v Speaker 2>There was that comparison. I think that that Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 2>threw out there at the time, and but he the

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<v Speaker 2>way he battles and the way he uses his size

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<v Speaker 2>on the perimeter, Yeah, that is where I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>really shown his growth. And honestly, it'd be really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>if you just broke out his play in the number

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<v Speaker 2>of snaps he's taken just at the perimeter cornerback spot.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers made a pretty pretty gutsy call there. They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say we're gonna play sides. We're gonna have gay

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<v Speaker 2>Air on the left, We're gonna play Rastul on the right,

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that you're gonna see a lot of DeVante over there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought he really competed well against I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that there is. It's a high wire act going

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<v Speaker 2>against DeVante. Yeah, no, No, I thought he really succeeded.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, the Packers defense certainly has something to build

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<v Speaker 1>off of heading into the Denver game. The Packers offense

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get things untracked early in games, like we

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<v Speaker 1>had talked about earlier. We'll talk a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about the Denver Broncos on our next show leading into

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday's game, But for now we'll call it a rap

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<v Speaker 1>on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow

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<v Speaker 1>all of our coverage on the team on packers dot

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<v Speaker 1>com for wes, I am Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see you next time.