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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in. I am Clay Travis,

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Speaker 1: he is Buck Sexton. This is the Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show and we have got a lot of

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Speaker 1: different stories to get into. We hope you had a

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Speaker 1: fantastic Labor Day weekend. Encourage you to go download podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can search out my name. Show is so popular.

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Speaker 1: Now Buck, you type end Clay a type end Buck

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Speaker 1: on any of the podcast universes and immediately the show

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Speaker 1: pops up. So who if anybody else named Clay or

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Speaker 1: Buck has a show, We have surpassed them at the

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Speaker 1: minimum in terms of search requirements. But in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate all of you out there, all fifty States,

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Speaker 1: all of our affiliate stations as well. And I want

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Speaker 1: to get into this rolling Stone ivermectin one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: why and how it exposes the hypocrisy of big tech.

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Speaker 1: But I want to hit you with a data point

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Speaker 1: that I think is significant that is not being discussed anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Joe By ran his entire campaign on the idea that

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Speaker 1: he was going to fix COVID. He hid in the basement,

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Speaker 1: he wore the oversized mask. He used it as a

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Speaker 1: cudgel to attack Donald Trump all the time, The idea

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Speaker 1: that Trump was not taking COVID seriously enough, the idea

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Speaker 1: that Trump had mismanaged COVID. All of that was the

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Speaker 1: underlying theme and justification alongside of normalcy that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: based his entire presidential campaign upon. We are now coming

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Speaker 1: up on the fall now that we have passed the

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Speaker 1: Labor Day, and you can look at the data from

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Speaker 1: last fall a year ago, when Joe Biden was making

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Speaker 1: this argument all through Labor Day in September. Did you know,

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, that right now today as we speak, there

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Speaker 1: are twice as many people hospitalized with COVID as on

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Speaker 1: Labor Day last year, when Joe Biden was saying that

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Speaker 1: President Trump was doing an awful job of handling COVID.

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Speaker 1: He owns COVID now and this failure, which would, honestly,

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Speaker 1: if Trump were still in office, that hospitalization data would

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Speaker 1: be being used as continued failure of the Trump administration. Yet,

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Speaker 1: I bet a huge percentage of our audience right now

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Speaker 1: that's listening to us has no idea that compared to

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Speaker 1: last Labor Day, we have twice as many people hospitalized

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Speaker 1: right now with COVID as we did last year, And

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Speaker 1: how could that be? As we know the dominant lib

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Speaker 1: journal media narrative is day in and day out, how

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Speaker 1: could the current surge not just in cases, but hospitalizations

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Speaker 1: be the fault the fault of the unvaccinated and it

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Speaker 1: exceeds where we were a year ago, remember right when

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Speaker 1: everyone was unvaccinated. When everybody was unvaccinated a year ago,

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Speaker 1: it's a great story. So how is it possible to

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Speaker 1: blame those who have not been vaccinated when it's worse

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Speaker 1: some now with litizations than it was a year ago

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Speaker 1: when it was not possible to even be vaccinated. There

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Speaker 1: is obviously something else going on here, Clay, which is

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Speaker 1: why the questions about how does this end, what does

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Speaker 1: that look like, what do we have to do? How

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Speaker 1: long do these vaccines really last? How well do they

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Speaker 1: really work? That's if we had an honest, not just journalistic,

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Speaker 1: but scientific community in this country. People are still so terrified.

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Speaker 1: We both know personally doctors who think that what's going

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Speaker 1: on with faucisum is madness, but they don't want to

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Speaker 1: abandon all their patients and their career by being booted

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Speaker 1: out of their hospital and having their license suspended for

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Speaker 1: questioning Fauci. I mean this is this is like the

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Speaker 1: the flat eartherism of our current moment. Actually, it's not

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Speaker 1: people that are skeptical of vaccines, it's people who won't

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Speaker 1: allow there to be questions about vaccines. And what I

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Speaker 1: would say too, Buck, I think you hit on it

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Speaker 1: well with the flat earth is M. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: the heliocentric vers versus geocentric theories to take people all

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Speaker 1: the way back to like sixth grade science. But the

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Speaker 1: essence of this and why it should be so offensive

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Speaker 1: to everyone out there, regardless of your political beliefs, is

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Speaker 1: science is about rigorously questioning conventional wisdom. That's how we

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Speaker 1: get to legitimate ideas and new hypotheses and theories which

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Speaker 1: govern our existence. And yet, if you point out, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, Israel right now is starting to discuss a

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Speaker 1: fourth different COVID shot. They have already given everybody a

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Speaker 1: just to say we need everyone to get vaccinated. Well,

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Speaker 1: clearly that does not end this thing. That's because you

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Speaker 1: still getting COVID and I know that they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: it protects from severe disease. Okay, how long does it

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Speaker 1: if the vaccine wanes in effectiveness? Right? The assumption here

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Speaker 1: could be all right, maybe you have you have enough

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Speaker 1: But does that also remember originally it was you won't

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Speaker 1: you don't spread it. Get the vaccine. That was the pitch.

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Speaker 1: Now you definitely yet can get it, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a little less like hospitalized with it. I

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Speaker 1: mean there's still I mean, look, I mean it's not

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Speaker 1: I think Clay, they don't want to do the real analysis.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to actually look at natural immunity because

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Speaker 1: we could be heading toward a point where it's just

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Speaker 1: everyone's basically gonna get COVID. And the way that this

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Speaker 1: that's clearly in the background here. And when you're talking

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Speaker 1: critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact

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Speaker 1: saying this over a year ago, now really going on

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Speaker 1: more like almost what eighteen months, you were a conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theorist that against a science and unwilling to deal in fact,

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Speaker 1: from the same people that insisted that this was a

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Speaker 1: crazy conspiracy theory. Then somehow they're the people that are

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Speaker 1: now telling you get that third get that fourth shot.

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Speaker 1: Shut up, peasant, don't ask any questions. The way I

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Speaker 1: think about it, Buck, is if we were standing in

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Speaker 1: and it's spread there. And the other person said, hey,

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Speaker 1: they were conducting gain a function, high level research in

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Speaker 1: What do you think the jury would side with? Right?

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Speaker 1: every day what will it take to make the suffering

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Speaker 1: right now. But it doesn't even sound plausible, and they

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Speaker 1: ran with it. It's more, it's not even just cherry

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Speaker 1: picking facts or not looking at data. It's an obvious lie,

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Speaker 1: but it was a delicious lie for the left, so

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Speaker 1: they ran with it. It just reminds me of this

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Speaker 1: back in the day, when we had people talking about

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Speaker 1: the member this the the potential benefits of hydroxy chloroqu

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Speaker 1: or right, yeah, And and then there was a a

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Speaker 1: version of it was it was not hydroxy chlorical or something.

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Speaker 1: It was like a different kind of chloroquin that is

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Speaker 1: used to clean fish tanks. And there was this whole

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Speaker 1: thing about someone took, uh, someone took fish tank cleaner,

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Speaker 1: and this was supposed to be blamed on trips like

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Speaker 1: if if you can't tell the difference between hydroxy chloroquin

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Speaker 1: and what's used to clean a fish tank, like, that's

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Speaker 1: on you. But that also was a stupid line that

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Speaker 1: wasn't a thing that was really happening. People weren't overdosing on,

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Speaker 1: you know, on chloroquine fish tank cleaner all over the country.

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Speaker 1: But they keep doing this because it's essential to them.

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Speaker 1: Clay to believe the people who disagree with them are

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Speaker 1: so dumb that they don't even have to be listened

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Speaker 1: to or thought about. I think that's exactly right. And

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Speaker 1: also all it's like mad libs version of a story.

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Speaker 1: If a story perfectly fits your version of the world,

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like the Jesse Smallett case buck

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Speaker 1: where it's like that was so perfect if it actually happened.

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Speaker 1: It's like a fevered dream of a left winger. Right,

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Speaker 1: somebody in a maga hat chase down a gay black

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Speaker 1: man with a noose in Chicago and said, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: doing this to you because we're big Trump supporters. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, Oklahoma, red state ivermectin, dumb red state

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Speaker 1: people can't even treat gunshot victims like when you see

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Speaker 1: all the fact patterns lining up, and it would be

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Speaker 1: like the fevered dream of a political party to have

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Speaker 1: it occur. Your initial response, if you have a functional brain,

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Speaker 1: should be skepticism, Right, That's just what it naturally should be,

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Speaker 1: especially on the Internet, where you have to question whether

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Speaker 1: much falsehood out there. I think at some level to

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Speaker 1: people like Rachel Madaw, not only is it professionally beneficial

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Speaker 1: to her, I mean, I like she really needs the

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they're like it a whole lot more than they should,

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Speaker 1: but it benefits her professionally. But Clay also, I think

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Speaker 1: there's some joy that the liberal elites get over promoting

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Speaker 1: stories like this that are such a thumb in the

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Speaker 1: eye to regular folks who don't buy into all the

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Speaker 1: fauci stuff. It's kind of like saying, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: what we think of you, that we'll even we'll run

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Speaker 1: with a story that's so patently false, so obviously untrue,

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Speaker 1: so vicious about how we think you're not smart. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's what they're really pushing. And I think they get

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Speaker 1: a kind of sick joy out of it, honestly, because

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Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way that Rachel Mattou didn't

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Speaker 1: have a moment, And I'm just she's not the only one,

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Speaker 1: but she's the most prominent one. Where it's like, are

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Speaker 1: people really dying in large numbers from oding over ivermectin?

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Speaker 1: Are they just refusing to treat gunshot victims because of it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, just even take away the ivermected and just

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Speaker 1: be like, wait a minute, are there really people showing

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Speaker 1: a lot to a lot to get through with you

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Speaker 1: We've got Zubie joining us in a few minutes. A

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Speaker 1: lot of you probably have not yet heard of Zubie,

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Speaker 1: although he was on the Rogan Podcast recently. I've interviewed

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Speaker 1: him before. Just a really interesting thinker. He's from the UK.

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Speaker 1: He's a rapper and a podcaster, very pro freedom, very

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Speaker 1: anti fauciism. We want to talk to him both about

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Speaker 1: what he's seen in the UK and also what he's

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Speaker 1: in terms of COVID stuff and what he's seeing in

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Speaker 1: this country. And Clay and I are just excited to

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Speaker 1: talk to him. He's really building a conservative audience in

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Speaker 1: America very very quickly, so I want to introduce him

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Speaker 1: to all of you. Give him. He actually, Clay, he

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Speaker 1: We'll get him on in a second. We also want

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Speaker 1: to take some calls we have not forgotten. Of course,

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Speaker 1: let's get to Laurie in Colorado. Laurie on the Clay,

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Good afternoon, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Hey? I wanted to mention to you a

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Speaker 1: kind of an unusual situation I had as a COVID survivor.

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Speaker 1: I had a sinus infection about a month ago. I'm

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Speaker 1: Of course, they do the COVID test. Of course it's negative.

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Speaker 1: And the PA proceeds to lecture me on getting the vaccine.

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Speaker 1: of amoxusillon. And I'm sitting here, going, I can't believe

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Speaker 1: I'm only here because the pain is really bad now

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Speaker 1: And I just looked at her and I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a fight, isn't it right? I just need amoxysillon. Again,

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Speaker 1: lecture you need a vaccine. I said, this has nothing

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Speaker 1: It's been a proof for decades. Let's move on right.

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Speaker 1: So so she wouldn't give you the care that you

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Speaker 1: like a quid pro quo. Exactly great happened? What was

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Speaker 1: the end result? It was a pointless argument. I even

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Speaker 1: He said, which pharmacy. He immediately sent a prescription for me.

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Speaker 1: He said, I have never heard of anybody doing that.

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Speaker 1: I said, trust me, I have the name of the

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Speaker 1: medical director. I'm writing a letter to them. Thank you

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Speaker 1: the virus isn't discriminating based on the overall health status

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Speaker 1: necessarily or morality of anyone out there. You might just

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Speaker 1: the medical profession in this situation, the medical profession has

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Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate because the one person I think, maybe

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, the ongoing efforts to get everybody out who

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Speaker 1: is left behind by the Biden administration. The next hour.

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Speaker 1: First up in a couple of minutes, our friend Zoobie

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