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Stockton Mortgage NMLS 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: eight two five nine, Equal Housing Lender NMLS, Consumer Access 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: dot Org. 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: Welcome to Hour two of Kentucky Sports Radio, present it 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 4: by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones. 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: Myron Metcalfe in for hour two here on KSR on 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: this Merry Monday. Obviously a lot of build up for 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: the seven pm Eastern College World Series matchup Texas A 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: and M and Kentucky. Apparently this Texas A and M 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: picture is what is it, young Greg Maddox or something 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: like that, what they call it? 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be Johnny full Staff. Maybe tonight 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 3: they go to hit him on so hard. 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, when you got the juice, you 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: got the juice. It doesn't matter who they put up there, right, 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to seeing that game, seeing the 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: outcome there. It will certainly be fun to watch. It's 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: been cool to kind of watch that ride, you know, 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: and just to watch the momentum that the team is 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: built up. Before we were talking about Kentucky and being 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: in the South, someone asks an interesting question fellas. They said, 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: who would be the state that would most likely try 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: to crash that reunion? You know, if all those states 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: were together, what's what what state would try to crash 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: the party? 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 5: Uh? 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: And say they're the South, Like, who would try to 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: get in? I think I have an answer, but I 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: want to know what you think you. 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: Got one, Channon, Well, I mean, if we're talking ones 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: that aren't in the South, that's a. 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: Little bit like want to be or I think they are. 50 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I don't know that. 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: One, right, I think I think it's Missouri, Missouri. Okay, 52 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: I can see that because Missouri kind of you know, 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: wants to be I mean, obviously they got the SEC 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: connection the Missouri's midwest, very midwest. But but I think 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: because they're close to Arkansas, Tennessee, that maybe maybe they 56 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: would try to, you know, be a plus one for somebody. 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: Maybe they try to squeeze in there. 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: That's possible, right, I could definitely see that. We're talking 59 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: about ones though, that are already in the South and 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: are just gonna come in and cause a disruptance. 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 5: It's no doubt. Florida, Yeah, Florida, Yeah, Florida. Florida's Florida 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 5: the hotel, Yeah, Florida Hotel. Now you can't you can't 63 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 5: bring Florida, you know what I mean? And then Florida's 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 5: gonna bring up old stuff. You know, they're gonna start 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: fights with people. It's just not you know, you're better 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 5: off of Florida. Does it show up. But but Texas 67 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 5: is just gonna not They're not gonna come. Texas will 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 5: hold its own party right separate from yes, everybody else, 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: so we'll see. 70 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pounding their chests. We're better than everybody else. 71 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: We're gonna have our own party. 72 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're not Texas. Yeah, but Florida's not even Florida. 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: Florida is not awake. Let's be honest. You know it's 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: it's one o'clock in the afternoon. You know that the 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: food is being served. Florida's not even up yet, so 76 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about them them showing up 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: at all. I feel like on this show, I haven't 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: talked a lot, and I think people are surprised much 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: about basketball. I think maybe I've had some tweets from 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: people saying, hey, we ain't gonna talk about Mark Pope 81 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: in basketball and kind of what you think. So like 82 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: my thought on Kentucky basketball, I don't think I can 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: start with the Mark Pope era because I think I 84 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: have to go back and digest my perspective on Cal. Right, 85 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: I know everyone else is out there two cents on 86 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: what happened with Cal and obviously work with Matt. I know, 87 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: you know a lot of things that sort of unfolded 88 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: even behind the scenes. But Cal changed from as a 89 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: media guy. I'm talking right, Cal became less accessible and 90 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: I think that really hurt him. Like whenever people reach 91 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: out to me in the sports world and they asked me, 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: you know, advice on public relations or just image and 93 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: things like that, I always tell him the same thing, 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of anti media culture. Fine, whatever, 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: but the challenge is when things aren't going well, that's 96 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: when you're gonna want someone to tell a good story 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: about you, or to remind people that you're more than 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: a coach, more than an athlete, right, that there's more 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: to your persona than what you do on the field, 100 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: what you do on the sidelines. And a lot of 101 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: these guys who just shut everybody off, they lose that 102 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt, and I think Cal did. Cal 103 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: was once the most successible coach at that level, Like 104 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: it is amazing. I probably outside of the national reporters 105 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: who live in the area. I bet I've been to 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: Kentucky more time than any national report in the last decade, 107 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: outside of the ones who lived like driving distance, right, 108 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: and you would go to like a game, or you'd 109 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: go to something in the off season, and it was 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: like such an hospitable experience, you. 111 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 6: Know what I mean. 112 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: It was like, hey, come on in, Cal wants to 113 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: tell you about the program, kind of like the Pied 114 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: Piper a little bit. And then like in the years ahead, 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: certainly around the pandemic that pandemic season, he kind of 116 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: closed everything off. And I think that was a mistake 117 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: because when things went south, nobody really knew who Cal was. 118 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: Like you could only measure him according to the x's 119 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: and o's, you can only measure him according to the 120 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: wins and losses. Because it felt like he had just 121 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: become so disconnected. And it's interesting because what I see 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: at Arkansas so far, it's him trying to do the 123 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: opposite of that, although it's just like Kentucky West basically, right, 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: his whole staff is Kentucky players. But I don't know 125 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: how you all saw it, but it felt like to 126 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: me there was this gradual disconnection. And in the long run, 127 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: that always hurts you because I tell you what, I 128 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: don't care who you are if you think you're bigger 129 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: than family and community, and I'm not saying that's Cal. 130 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: But if you disconnecting that way, it's when you need 131 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: those people the most that you'll miss out if you 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 2: don't have that connection. And I just felt like Cal 133 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: went from being this guy who was so good at 134 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: relationships and managing relationships to a guy who had sort 135 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: of just stepped away from that part of what made him, 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: I think, this gigantic figure in sports, it wasn't just 137 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: the winning, it was the personality and the relationships attached 138 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: to that. And then somewhere down the line, it felt 139 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: like he kind of abandoned that part of his personality. 140 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? How did you all see it? Yeah? 141 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: You hit a lot of things we've talked about on 142 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: this show. I mean, I think Cal when he first 143 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: got here, he was he was at the point where 144 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: he was doing so many great things he could and 145 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: he can almost like walk on water. You know. He 146 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: was adored and loved and everybody would you know, thought 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: the guy was the great, greatest thing ever. And I 148 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: don't know this, but I think in his mind, I 149 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: thought he built up so much goodwill that we should 150 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: forgive him and look past maybe some things that would 151 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: happen when in the down years of the downtimes a 152 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: little bit, you know what I mean. 153 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: So and so. 154 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: When he when he'd say this smart stuff to us 155 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: when we're winning, they're like, oh haha, that's just Cal 156 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: being Cal. Well, then you try to say that smart 157 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: stuff to us when you're losing the first round to 158 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: Oakland and Saint Peter's it ain't funny anymore, you know, 159 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: And I think you hit it. He there was a 160 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: great disconnect between Cal and the fans these last five years, 161 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: and he did nothing to try to help it. You know, man, 162 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: he stopped doing these pregame press conferences. He stopped doing 163 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: a lot of the postgame press conferences. You know, when 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: we would lose a game, we want to hear our 165 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: coach be mad and be hurt, and he's like, help, 166 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go home and play with my dogs. I 167 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: get to go see my dogs now, you know, we 168 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: don't want to hear that. 169 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 7: Yeah. 170 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: I remember being at the Champions Classic this year. You know, 171 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: he spent the postgame talking a lot about Kenny Payne, 172 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: you know, which is fine. I mean, he was trying 173 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: to save Kenny's job, right, and no one was going 174 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: to save Kenny's job. Everyone could see that but it 175 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: was also it was also like, Man, here is this 176 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: gigantic stage, this huge stage you're in the middle of. 177 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: People are being critical or wondering what this year is 178 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: going to look like. You've got this incredible recruiting class, 179 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: and instead he spent a lot of that press conference 180 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: talking about something else, and I just it's just interesting. 181 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen, I think I believe I covered fourteen to 182 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: sixteen Kentucky games between regular season SEC tournament NCAA tournament. 183 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: I was with them that whole ride in twenty fourteen 184 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: to fifteen. And I came the summer before that and 185 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: Cal had like a celebrity softball game. I don't know 186 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: if you remember that. What's the ballpark. It was Appleby's Ballpark. 187 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: I hit a home run off Matt Jones, by the 188 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: way that they called foul. So make sure you bring 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: that up. The home run was fair, it was We 190 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: had a video. I'll bring it up for sure. I 191 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: was there for that celebrity softball game. It was packed. Yeah, 192 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: it was packed. And the cool thing about it was 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 2: as a reporter is they just let me kind of 194 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: trail Cal, so I was just kind of following Cal 195 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: wherever he went and it was like following a politician 196 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: on a re election campaign, you know, like everywhere he went, 197 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: there was just these crowds of people. Let me, let 198 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: me tell you something about Cal that I've always respected 199 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: because I don't want to come off like I'm critical 200 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: of everything that happened. Cal legitimately supported diversity in ways. 201 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: And I told Matt this, in ways that no other 202 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: coach I've ever been around in college basketball did Cal had, 203 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, African Americans on this training staff. Obviously in 204 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: the administration, everyone knows, you know, Dwayne before he went 205 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: to de Paul in his office, you know you're going 206 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: to his Like I always thought, like, wow, it's one 207 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: thing to talk about it, but this guy's really created 208 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: openings for people. You know, he's been more than lip service. 209 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: So I always respected that element of things. But like 210 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: you walked around with him and it was like he 211 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: could do no wrong. There was a campaign there at 212 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: that celebrity softball game where I think there was a 213 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: company that was fitting people for hearing gaids, like I 214 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: want to say like pediatric hearing gaids or something like that. 215 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: You know, some of these kids were hearing for the 216 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: first time. It was an incredible thing and kl just 217 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: in there shaking hands and everyone's loving him, and you 218 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: walk with him across campus and it was like, Wow, 219 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: this is the peak, Like this is what it is 220 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: to be a national championship coach, to have these relationships, 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: in this bond with your community, and to be in 222 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: this position where you have that full support. And it 223 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: was just amazing to watch a decade later how he 224 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: had lost that and how I think that's the only 225 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: thing that could have saved them, honestly, Like that's the 226 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: thing that I think sometimes these athletes, these coaches mess 227 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: out on. It's like, if you go too far away 228 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: from what helped you get to a certain place, when 229 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: you come back and need that support and it's not there, 230 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: that's when it's too late. And I felt like with 231 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: cal it was too late to get some of that 232 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: support back that he really needed, I think in the 233 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: most difficult moment maybe of his entire career. 234 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: It's really cool to hear you talk about it from 235 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: an other perspective. You know, we all live it and 236 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: we all thought those same things, but to see somebody 237 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: from the outside kind of feel the same way that 238 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: we've what we felt like like, well, then we're not 239 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: too far off base. You know. I think he had 240 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: a lot of things, a great things about him. He's 241 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 3: a great man. His philanthropy work has been awesome. But yeah, 242 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: just that disconnect he had with the fans and then 243 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 3: when things start going south, man, we're not there to 244 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: support you anymore. 245 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, now. And I don't know if it was like 246 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: maybe he didn't acknowledge it, maybe he thought. I don't 247 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: know what it was. But from a media perspective, you 248 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: couldn't get to Cal at the end. Like me, I mean, 249 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 2: I'm fortunate I worked for ESPN, where the big boys, right, 250 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Like if I want to go to a game, if 251 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: I want to go to a place, they put me 252 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: on a plane, I go, right. So there were numerous 253 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: times over the years, Hey, I want to talk to Cal, 254 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: I want to write about Cal, and sort of this moment, 255 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: I want to have to sit down with Can. And 256 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: you couldn't do it, you know what I mean. It 257 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: was hard to get to him. 258 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: Yep, and that's what I need. 259 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: And I don't know, well, and here's the thing with me, 260 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: And I don't know if anyone will ever say this. 261 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: I don't know if my relationship changed with him after 262 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: I started working with Matt. You know, I don't know, 263 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: like I don't know if maybe he saw that relationship 264 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: and whatever he may have thought, But it was just 265 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: interesting me because I'm going, Man, here's the time to 266 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: do what you do best. There's not a better talker 267 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: in college basketball than cal Like in terms of if 268 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: you want to see someone, you say, go to the 269 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: press conference and dazzle the people who are there, There's 270 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: no one better than cal Like. Cal is number one. 271 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: And that was one of his gifts. That was one 272 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: of his strengths. Is when you saw that combined with 273 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: the winning pedigree and the talent and then the fan 274 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: base and everything attached to it, that charisma helped him 275 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: a lot, like it affected how he was perceived. And 276 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 2: it felt like towards the end he still had some 277 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: of the charisma, but he wasn't acknowledging that the circumstances 278 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: that really changed and that all of a sudden, this 279 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: isn't twenty twelve or twenty fifteen, like this is a 280 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: decade later almost, man. You know, and there's a bunch 281 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: of coaches who won national championships since you last won one, 282 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: and it's fair, I think for your fans to go 283 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: on a second. Man, you said this was the standard, 284 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: not everyone else. You took the job and said this 285 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: is what we do. So then to suddenly go, well, 286 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: hold on, they want this, they want that. Well, people 287 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: want what you told them they would get, you know. 288 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: And I think there was a little bit of there 289 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: was an element there of like, Okay, where's the disconnect, 290 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: trying to understand that, and maybe Cal will reveal that 291 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: down the line. But for someone who was so good 292 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: at connecting, yep, better than anyone I've ever been around 293 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: in terms of connecting to everyday folks, die hard fans, boosters, donors. 294 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember going to his office and I 295 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: can't think of, you know, the woman's name who was 296 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: his assistant. I hope I'm not messing up her title. 297 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: But how friendly he was with just everybody. Literally he 298 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: encountered he had this giant candy stash in his office. 299 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: So Cal has this like it's literally like eight rows 300 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: of candy in this closet. Like he was like, he 301 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: was like, hey man, you want some candy. And I'm thinking, like, 302 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: you know, somebody hand you a jelly bean or something 303 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: or like hold out your hand. I'm like, yeah, I'll 304 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: take some candy. So he's like, hey, hey, take him 305 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: to the room. So like you open this door in 306 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: his office and there's like eight rows of candy, any 307 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: kind of candy you would want. It was like eight 308 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: rows of it. And I'm not like the little Halloween jokers. 309 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm talking like full size candy bars, packages of mic 310 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: and all kinds of stuff. But I just remember how 311 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: fun he was in those moments, how laid back he was, 312 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: and how much he was the the greatest marketing agent 313 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: that I'd ever seen. Like, it's not just the talent. 314 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: A lot of teams are talented. It's not just the 315 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: fan base and the and the spotlight on the program. 316 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: It was his ability to take all of that and 317 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: to make that light even larger, and then on top 318 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: of it, to be able to handle everything that comes 319 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: with that. That is not an easy thing to do, 320 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: Like that is not an easy thing to do, and 321 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: cal had mastered that. But then it felt like again 322 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: as the losses piled up, as things went south, he 323 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: didn't know how to tell that story about Kentucky. You know, 324 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: I tell the story in good times, but when things 325 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: were challenging. The greatest storyteller as a coach I've ever 326 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: seen suddenly didn't have any answers. And it's like, you 327 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: know what, you have to have answers right now, Like 328 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: you absolutely have to have the answers, Like this is 329 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: the moment when you, of all people, have to have 330 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: the answers. And either he had them and didn't want 331 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 2: to tell anybody, or maybe he decided he didn't have them. 332 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it was just and I know 333 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: I'm rambling here. I've really talked about this. It was 334 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: just fascinating to watch that all unfold. I'll talk more 335 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: about cal and Mark Pope after this break. Is that 336 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: from the Is that from the cow Candy? It's a 337 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: real story. I'm not making it up. I mean it was. 338 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: It was literally like a candy store and it's like 339 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: it's like you open this I don't know door and 340 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: then these like shelves come out and there was like 341 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: a giant, a giant candy stash. 342 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 4: Which one did you go with? Did you go with 343 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: like the Snickers or you payday guy? Like which one 344 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 4: did you pick? 345 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: I got like a baby ruth a a big Snickers guy. 346 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: I'm not a big you know, I like licorice, are like, 347 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: I think I got a baby Ruth. 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I always have to be careful when 363 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: I talk about these things, right, because you know, the 364 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: thing with someone like me is I have to have 365 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: relationships with everybody, right, and especially now that I do 366 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: you know, TV whatever, So I never want to say 367 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: something that sounds so critical of anyone and I'm not 368 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: being overly critical of kind I'm just stating what i've 369 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: seen my perspective. Does any of this resonate with you 370 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: all like the things I'm saying. Is this what you 371 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: all felt or saw being on that side of it 372 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: as it was all going down? 373 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: Well, that's what it's kind of Like I said, interesting 374 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: to hear you talk about it from another perspective. You know, 375 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: since we were here, a lot of the things you've said, 376 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: we Matt has talked about a lot about that disconnect 377 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: he had, not just with the fan base, but it 378 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: seemed like with his assistant coaches. He seemed like he's 379 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: players did. The disconnect was the word he used a lot. 380 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: And so when things start going south, that's when we 381 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: need you as our leader to you know, step up 382 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: and say something and help us. 383 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: And he didn't. 384 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 3: And that's what one of my biggest fault was in 385 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: when things started to go south, he just kind of 386 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: turned these back to us almost. 387 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, what you've been saying, iron is exactly the way 388 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: we've felt as fans of what we've been dealing with. 389 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 4: You know, firsthand, when everything was great, you know, National 390 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: Title Final, four, thirty one seasons, you know, he was 391 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: loved and he could do no wrong. But then all 392 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 4: of a sudden, you know, for the first time, he 393 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: gets some serious criticism from fans. You know, the nine 394 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: and sixteen season kind of started this snowball. Then it 395 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 4: was the lost to Saint Peter's in the first round. 396 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: That's never happened in our lifetime, a lot of our lifetime. 397 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 4: And then that, you know, kind of just snowballed into 398 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: what happened this past season. That was kind of the 399 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 4: final nil when you lose to Oakland again in the 400 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 4: first round. So yeah, and then is like the negativity 401 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: started to come from the fan base. He just went 402 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 4: into into hiding kind of you know, it's like you 403 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: became a recluse at that point. And you're right, his 404 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: access just went from a guy who was fully accessible 405 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: to a guy you couldn't you couldn't talk to. 406 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 8: I was that. 407 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: I appreciate you all saying that, because you know, I 408 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: haven't talked this extensively about cal since it all went down. 409 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: I was a big blue man, right, and that's what 410 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: it's called. In October? Was it October? It was October? 411 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: I believe right. I have been de multiple big blue 412 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: madness events in my career many times, I had never 413 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: been the one that quiet. So like when people were 414 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: asking me around the country, they were like, hey, you 415 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: went to Big Blue Madness. You know Kentucky. It's always chaotic, 416 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 2: it's always wild. You know. I came back and what'd 417 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: you think? I said, I've never been to a big 418 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: blue madness that sounded like that. It was an odd sound, 419 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was an odd vibe, 420 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: you know. You know, I know there's reports of whether 421 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 2: it was filled up and all that, but for me, 422 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: as someone who had been there for some of these gigantic, explosive, 423 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: big blue Madness events, that just felt weird to me 424 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: being there on press row, it just it just felt odd. 425 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if you all since that, but it 426 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: was just an odd vibe compared to past years. 427 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 428 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: I think it's something that had been building for several years, 429 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: you know, that things weren't going well. My lasting image 430 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: of col is walking off the court at the SEC 431 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: Tournament after losing to Texas A and M, and this 432 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: lady was leaning over the railing screaming at cal Is 433 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: this the gold standard? Cow? Is this what you mean 434 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: by the gold standard losing in the first round. Is 435 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: this what you're you know? And I thought that I 436 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: thought at that time, and that he's lost us. He 437 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: has lost us. Man, here's the SEC Tournament where we 438 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 3: own it and we love it and we spend our 439 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: vacations down there. And another couldn't even make the weekend 440 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: of the SEC Tournament for like what the fifth year 441 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: in a row. 442 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm going against the merry Monday. 443 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: Uh Godcep. I hadn't tried to I'm sorry, I'm not trying. 444 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be uh you know, uh end 445 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: on like a pessimistic note. Obviously College World Series. Everyone's happy, 446 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: but I just people had been out to me, why 447 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: don't you talking about basketball? And it's hard for me. 448 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: I think I've got to talk about what's happened before 449 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: I can talk about what I think is coming. If 450 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 2: that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, because I. 451 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: Think they're gonna pick us back up. You're gonna pick 452 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: us back now. 453 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna head to the Mark. Okay, after this, 454 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell you my thoughts on Mark Pope and what 455 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna end up doing at Kentucky. On 456 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: the other side, of this break TJ Smith personal injury attorney. 457 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: Call TJ. He'll make them pay. 458 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 4: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. 459 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: Here's Matt Jones. 460 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: Now this is a song right here. Let this ride 461 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. Let's Steve, let's stevee talk to him 462 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, come on, Stevie Man, what a musical, 463 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: A musical genius. 464 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 8: Man. 465 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: I love Stevie Festive Stevie. Here we go, Here we go, 466 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: Here we go. I just call. 467 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 6: To say. 468 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: I love you. I love Stevie Man, y'all like Stevie Wonder, 469 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: love him. Yeah. 470 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: I hear this song though, and I hear Eddie Murphy 471 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: in person named Buck Wheet singing Stevie Wonder on Sunday 472 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: Night Live. 473 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: Classic. That's classic. But you know it's wild about Eddie 474 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 2: Murphy and those skits. Man, he was like nineteen on SNL, 475 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: like it's Eddie Murphy. That that run from SNL to 476 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: I think Delirious came first before Raw Beverly Hills Cope. 477 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Like that run that Eddie Murphy had is literally one 478 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: of the greatest runs in show business. And he was 479 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: like twenty or something like that. It was pretty remarkable. 480 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: Let me apologize. I'm getting tweets some people who are like, 481 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: why are we talking about old stuff with cal. All 482 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm I was doing was unpacking my perspective as a 483 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 2: national college basketball reporter on how I saw That's all. 484 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to bring everybody down. I know we 485 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: got College World Series action tonight, obviously a and M big, 486 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: huge moment. We've been talking about that. Yes, excited to 487 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: see what happens there real quick before we hit the 488 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: phone lines. I haven't talked much about Mark Pope, who 489 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm hoping to come down there. I think in July 490 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 2: I'll be down there to hang out with Mark Pope 491 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: and the crew. I mean, I think he's done a 492 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: tremendous job assembling this team. I think you got a 493 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: lot of maturity, you know. I think you have a 494 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: lot of guys who won't be intimidated by the spotlight. Obviously, 495 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: a dude like Lamont Butler, he's played on the highest levels. 496 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: I think that's an incredible pick up. Andrew Carr, I 497 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a really really great player. Obviously, 498 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: Brandon Garrison, we know what he was. McDonald's all American 499 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: out of high school. The guy I'm probably most intrigued 500 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: by is Otega Oway. So I did a TV game 501 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: for Oklahoma a couple of them, and I got a 502 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: chance to get to know him. You know, his brother plays, 503 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: I believe for the Ravens. I'm not sure if you 504 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: signed with someone else, but really really athletic family. But 505 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: just a good dude, you know what I mean, Just 506 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: a guy who's got a good head on his shoulders 507 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: and just sort of the right temperament and focus. I 508 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: think to be in a spotlight spotlight like that, I 509 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: think he'll I think Otega will quickly emerge as sort 510 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: of one of the leaders within that veteran group. 511 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 9: Uh. 512 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: And then you got the guy to study, Jackson Robinson, 513 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: who you know I covered a couple BYU games, and 514 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: I mean he's just a different kind of dude, you know. 515 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean he if he becomes a more consistent shooter, 516 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a pro. That's a first round pick, 517 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: you know. And I'm sure when he went to these 518 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: NBA workouts, that's what they told him, because when you 519 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: see the way he moves, the way he carries himself, 520 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, yeah, that's a pro. You know, that's 521 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: a dude who's ready to compete at the next level. 522 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 2: And obviously having that familiarity with Mark Pope, I think 523 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: it's going to help him out a lot. I think 524 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: Mark Pope's, you know, his strength will be I don't 525 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: think he'll ever take himself to you seriously, but he'll 526 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: also acknowledge the stakes, if that makes sense. Like, I 527 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: think he'll know how to have fun, but also keeping 528 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: his eye on the prize and acknowledging that, you know, 529 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: you're not here to be liked, you're here to win, 530 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. Like, I think he has that 531 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 2: right perspective. We had We went back and forth at 532 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: this b YU Kansas game when they went to Kansas. 533 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 2: In one I was there. He picked up a technical 534 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: like down the stretch and I'm like, hey, Mark, you 535 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: know what, what'd you uh what did your players tell 536 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: you about picking up that technical file? You know, at 537 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: the end of the game, He's like, oh, you had 538 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: to bring that up. Huh. You know you're just joking 539 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: with you about you know. So we had cool, cool exchange. 540 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: But I just think, uh, he's got the right mindset, 541 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: and I think this team is full of hungry dudes 542 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: who won't be intimidated by everything attached to this opportunity. 543 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: So that's just my perspective on, you know, the team 544 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: they've assembled so far, and looking forward to getting to 545 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: know Mark better. Alvin Brooks credible family, his father was 546 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: an incredible coach. Obviously, he won a national championship at Bayley. 547 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: Just a good dude. I've been in a lot of 548 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: meetings with Alvin. Definitely a future head coach. You know, 549 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna get his opportunity. Mark Fox I've 550 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: known probably I don't know, twenty years or something like that. 551 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: Obviously you know his experience. Don't know as much about Cody, 552 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: but Jason Hart been around him a lot. I mean, 553 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: that's a guy who I think can relate to the 554 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 2: changing climate in college basketball. He's been at all these 555 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: different levels, and I think you'll find that players probably go, yeah, 556 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: that's that's our favorite guy. Maybe on the staff, you know, 557 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: players coach for sure. So just my two cents on 558 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: what's ahead. I think this can be a team competitive 559 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: in the SEC. The SEC is stacked, I mean that's 560 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: not new, but I think if they get the chemistry right, 561 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: figure out the rotation, which won't be easy. They got 562 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: a chance. They definitely have a chance, I think, to 563 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: be competitive and will be competitive in the SEC. Is 564 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: that more positive? Fellas? Because I tweet that, people were like, hey, man, hey, 565 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: what do you Why are you talking about old stuff? 566 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm just I was just telling you what I thought. 567 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: But I told you I had to talk about the 568 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: past before I could talk about the future. We got 569 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: some phone calls though, unless I think we got a 570 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: livery first? Oh yeah, right, do a livery yet? Yes? Hey, 571 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: Big Blue Nation. 572 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: Get back to making memories and enjoying your favorite activities 573 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: with family and friends. Don't let aches and pains or 574 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: an injury slow you down. 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Tyler, how are you doing on this 584 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: Mary Monday? 585 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 7: I'm doing good. 586 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: Hell y'all good good. You don't sound like it's a 587 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: merry Monday. What's going on? Man? We can talk about it. 588 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 7: No, No, I'm good. I'm calling because, uh because to 589 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 7: talk about the south thing. Uh So, I've lived in 590 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 7: I lived in southeastern Kentucky, lived here most of my life. 591 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 7: Uh and lived in many different states actually, and I 592 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 7: thought Kentucky's wanted. You know how Florida and Texas are 593 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 7: both their their own kind of thing. I felt Kentucky's 594 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 7: kind of like that, because if you look at the 595 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 7: west side of Kentucky and compare it to the east 596 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 7: side of you know, it's kind of two different. They're 597 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 7: very different, you know what I mean. Uh So, I 598 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 7: just thought there they're their own little, own little thing. 599 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 7: But also, uh about basketball, I want to I'm like 600 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 7: baffled by people that are kind of you know, hopeful, 601 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 7: and you know they're excited, but they're still still kind 602 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 7: of I have no doubt that this is going to 603 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 7: be a success. Like I feel like we've got to 604 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 7: bus on me coming. 605 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate to appreciate the call. Okay, so it feels 606 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: like Kentucky is split between west. Is that like Bowling Green? 607 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: Is that western? Yeah? 608 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: It is western Kentucky, Paducah, you know, far western Kentucky. 609 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: Been down in the lakes. It's beautiful, but it is 610 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: completely different than eastern part, which is more in the 611 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: mountain area, you know. 612 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like Lexington and Loveville are in the middle. 613 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: Right what city was that? What did you say, Lovelle? 614 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: Never heard of that one? Is that? 615 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: Is that in the state love. 616 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 4: I think that's where I'm at right now? 617 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: Loveville? 618 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 6: You down? 619 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: Are you down in Loveville? 620 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? Scotty Scheffler, what do you call it? 621 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: Lewisville? 622 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: Yes? 623 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: See, I was better than him? Yeah, I mean that 624 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't that. I mean that was just he wasn't 625 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: even trying. He knew what he was doing. 626 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: He was trying to get one. 627 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: Last little dig in. 628 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: He knew exactly what he was doing. 629 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: I hope you pay for that officer's pants. Who's our 630 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: next call? Free bird on this he's back, free bird. 631 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: You put some more minutes on your phone. What was 632 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: happening there earlier? 633 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 8: Man? Hey, sorry about that. Guys, Hey, Myron, pleasure to 634 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 8: talk to you. Man and I got into the fourth power, 635 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 8: Into the fourth power, dude, I appreciate it, but no 636 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 8: about the last Since my son has been I don't know, 637 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 8: seven eight years old, my father's day has been spent 638 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 8: at the ballpark. Wouldn't trade it for anything. But he 639 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 8: had a set back yesterday or yesterday morning. I fractured 640 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 8: his wrist. But thank god it it was just a 641 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 8: hairline and it couldn't been much worse. And it happened 642 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 8: in Lewisville, for all places. 643 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: How long is the recovery there with the hairline fraction? 644 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: How long is that is out? 645 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 8: I'd save for I'd save four to six weeks. Man, 646 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 8: and I do have a request, if it's okay, Yes, sir, 647 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 8: you're gonna be back next Monday, after your vacation. 648 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: I'll be back. Oh yeah, I'll be here. 649 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 8: Well after Kentucky wins them the game. Can I request 650 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 8: a cool in the game theme? 651 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, no, we can do some cool in the game. 652 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: You read my mind, because I was headed there. I 653 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: was headed there, I was on my way. I was 654 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: going to get there. Yeah no, you read my mind. 655 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: We can definitely definitely do some cool in the game. Great, 656 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: really good. 657 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 8: You have a good day and hope all the dad's 658 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 8: had a great weekend. Buddy, appreciate it, Myron, thanks man. 659 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot. Yeah, happy files did all the dazz 660 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: man you know who are out there able to spend 661 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: time with their kids, reach out to them if you 662 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: couldn't get to them. Uh So, hope everyone enjoyed that. 663 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: Who's our who's our next caller? 664 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: Let's go to Nancy. 665 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 7: I'm good. 666 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 9: How are you doing? 667 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm good on this Merry Monday? 668 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 9: Okay, Mary Monday. Okay. So Saturday, I was in the 669 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 9: car for eighteen hours driving from Maine back to Whoa, 670 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 9: How did you say Louisville? 671 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: I can't love them? Okay, yeah, how do you say it? 672 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: How do you say it Louisville? 673 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 9: Yeah you roll your tongue, Yes, Louisville. You're getting You're getting, 674 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 9: We're getting there. 675 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 8: Okay. 676 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 9: So I was. I was not driving at the time. 677 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 9: My friend was driving, so we were. I was watching 678 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 9: the UK baseball game and then I had to drive 679 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 9: and he is not a sports fan, so I probably 680 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 9: drove him crazy every time they score and then that 681 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 9: last home run, Oh my gosh, I w It's a 682 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 9: good thing I didn't wreck the car. What a moment, right, 683 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 9: I know, it's been great. So one thing I have 684 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 9: to bring up that Saint Peter's game. My son, who 685 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 9: lives in Indie, got me tickets. I went to the game. 686 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 9: It was really bad, really bad. And then he said 687 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 9: to me after the game, Sorry, Mom, do you want 688 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 9: to go tomorrow night? I said, no, I'm not going. No, 689 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 9: I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, but it is what it is, 690 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 9: and I'm really excited about Pope. I think it's going 691 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 9: to be a great year. So, and you're doing a 692 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 9: great job. I really like listening to you. I missed 693 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 9: you last Monday because I was in Maine. But anyway, Yeah, 694 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 9: so I appreciate it's good work. 695 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: Okay, I really I really appreciate that. No, thank you, 696 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: thank you for that call. You all have been so 697 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: welcoming and friendly, and I really I really appreciate that. 698 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, you know, I'm sure going from 699 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: some of the lows to what this baseball team has 700 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: been able to do must be a pretty cool feeling, 701 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: right fellas. I mean, do you think that's added to 702 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: the energy around what's happening in baseball right now? That 703 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: this is a fan base that has been to the valleys. 704 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: I sound like a preacher right now, but been to 705 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: the valleys and now you at the mountaintop. Is that 706 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: Does it feel a little bit like that? 707 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 8: Oh? 708 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: I think that definitely plays into you know this, This 709 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 3: fan base is long overdue to celebrate, you know, with 710 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: a couple of disappointing basketball years and even our football 711 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: season and we still went seven and five. But I 712 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: think a lot of fans thought they had higher hopes 713 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: than that. So yeah, I think that plays into the 714 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: enjoyment of watching what these baseball team's been able to 715 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: do this year. 716 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk more about baseball than what's ahead and 717 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: some of your phone calls before the end of the show. 718 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: After this break, some more Stevie, Baby, I love it, 719 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: love some Stevie on this fine Mary Monday, Texas A 720 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 2: and m versus Kentucky at seven BM Eastern on ESPN 721 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: College World Series. 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I'm not gonna you know, 746 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna make a score prediction or something like 747 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: that for tonight, because then you know, you can jinx things. 748 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: I believe in that stuff, like I'm a superstitious person. 749 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: But all I'll say is that Kentucky Acid lost since 750 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: I started filling in for Matt Jones on Mondays. That's 751 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 2: all right, that's true. Facts. Yeah, that's so, you know 752 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: what I mean. That's not me taking credit. That's not 753 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 2: even given Al Green full credit. Although let's be honest, 754 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: al Green always deserves credit no matter what the situation is. 755 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: But we haven't The team hasn't lost yet, That's all 756 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's just something to consider. We'll get 757 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: a few more calls in here before the end of 758 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: the show. What's our next caller? 759 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 4: Let's go to Peggy. 760 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 2: How you doing on this, Marimanda, I'm great. 761 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 9: How are you guys? 762 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 2: I'm good. 763 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 6: Talking about being from the South, I want the New 764 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 6: York time. The guy looked down to see if I 765 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 6: had on shoes. He said, I thought wear. 766 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 2: Shoes New York City. He said that yeah, And. 767 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 6: I said, well, when your rats are bigger than our possums, 768 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 6: I wanted to make sure I came home with my. 769 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: That's a good comeback. Did Okay, you had already thought 770 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: about that, because that's a really good comeback because I've 771 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: lived in you, you know what, good for you, because 772 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 2: that's a great I mean, that would have left me speechless. 773 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: The rats up there. I've lived in New York, Like, 774 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 2: the rats are jacka. It's a real thing, you know 775 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: what I mean, And they're just everywhere and New York 776 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: or Zack like is just normal and it's not normal. 777 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: So I'm with you. Possums are out and about doing 778 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: their thing. Maybe they come out of night. The rats 779 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: are just with you every day and that's just a 780 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: weird thing to me exactly. 781 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 6: And my life comment is go back cats. 782 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: Go bat cats? Is that what people are calling them? 783 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 3: Well, they used to be called the bat cats forever. 784 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 3: Then they want us to stop and everybody's a wildcat. 785 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 3: But batcats have kind of come back. Yeah, it's kind 786 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 3: of cool again. 787 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: But they want you to stop. What do you mean? 788 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 3: I don't understand they wanted every UK team to be wildcats. 789 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 3: There's no lady cats, there's no bat cats, there's no 790 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 3: matt cats. It's all wildcats. But batcats is cool though, right, 791 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 3: I agree? I agree, So it's kind of been coming back. Yeah, 792 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: but it's like a branding thing or something like that. 793 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 3: Basically you want no bat cats, correct, But it's like 794 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 3: I said, it's come back. It's making it come back. 795 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 2: I mean, if you get to the world here, you 796 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: kind of get to call yourself what you want, call 797 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: your own shot now, that's right. Yeah, you can change 798 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 2: your name if you want, I think if you win 799 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: the World Series. So so we're. 800 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 3: Gonna have a big watch party at cast Bar tonight 801 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 3: for the baseball game. Obviously at seven o'clock. If you 802 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 3: can't make it to cast Bar, we'll have it on 803 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 3: the radio. Six thirty w a P and seven ninety 804 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 3: k r D will carry the game. So there's a 805 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: lot of ways you can keep up with it tonight. 806 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 2: It could be another good game. I don't know who's everybody? 807 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: Who's the who's the is it? No one is Clements? 808 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: Who is it? What CC Sabathia or something like that? 809 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 2: Is it? Dennis Acres League? Who is it? Roley Fingers? 810 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 3: Who is this guy saying the dude Griggsby goes up there? 811 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 3: What is it? 812 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: I mean, is he that? 813 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 3: It sounds like he's pretty good, But I mean Kentucky's 814 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: got a good picture too. We got Mason Moore going tonight. 815 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 3: He's a Kentucky kid, so we got a good picture 816 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 3: going tonight. 817 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 2: Also, yeah you got I mean, you got a relief 818 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: picture from my area. A Minnesota guy I can't think 819 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: of his name. There's a there's a relief guy on 820 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: your roster who grew up about fifteen minutes from me 821 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: from where I'm at. Now, there you go, brother, there 822 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, I mean, this guy is it? You 823 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: know you're not. It's not Smolts up there, Glavin. I mean, 824 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure he's good. But I feel like, 825 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 2: if you got the juice, you just have the juice, 826 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's the beauty of 827 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: the playoffs is it really doesn't matter who else is rolling. 828 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: If you got the juice, you got the juice. And 829 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 2: and I think Kentucky has the juice right now, you 830 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean. You win in that situation or 831 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: the walk off at the bottom of the tenth, doesn't 832 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: that just feel like maybe it's your year, right Like 833 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 2: that's when those fortuitous moments happen. That's when I started 834 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: to go, okay, maybe this is beyond skill and talent 835 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: and hard work, like maybe, you know, maybe this is 836 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: kind of destined, right. I'm not saying that that's the case, 837 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: but I mean way that they've won in sort of 838 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: these dramatic moments, is I don't know, you know, like 839 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: maybe this is their time, maybe this is their year. 840 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 2: But I don't know, if you tell me, is it 841 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: Nolan Ryan is pitching against him or something like that, 842 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 2: whatever whatever his name is. I just don't want to 843 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 2: see the weird textas ain't him chance? 844 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 7: Man? 845 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: Like I don't. I got friends who went to A 846 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: and M and I messed with them about that, Like 847 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 2: that's a lot that y'all are doing a whole lot, 848 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 849 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 4: Ryan, go put on a blue shirt too. 850 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what you were doing today, man, Yeah, Man, 851 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what you thought. The 852 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: Color Coordinating Committee didn't talk to you apparently. So thank 853 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 2: you all for having mend your Monday enjoyed. See y'all, Sup,