Speaker 1: M hm, pods of the cast ship. Um, that wasn't
Speaker 1: that was just sounds. That was just mouth Sounds like
Speaker 1: a great album by Neil Sister Riga who you should
Speaker 1: which you should check out. This is Robert Evans introducing
Speaker 1: his podcast Behind the Bastards very poorly. Uh, Miles, please
Speaker 1: come in and save me from Hello, Bobby, good to
Speaker 1: be here. Miles Gray, coming in alive and direct from
Speaker 1: the city of assholes, I mean angels. Miles. When you
Speaker 1: when you did your podcast training, which day did they
Speaker 1: teach you how to do something besides grunt incoherently while
Speaker 1: introducing a podcast, I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not look full disclosure. I faked all my podcast education.
Speaker 1: See you an unlicensed podcaster? I mean, look, god damn it,
Speaker 1: I did. I did. I just had a mic and
Speaker 1: someone's like, hey, you're a guy you podcast. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: that is how it works. That is just how it works.
Speaker 1: If you're a guy, you you're given a podcast. In
Speaker 1: the early days and they weren't even given It was
Speaker 1: just a bunch of like like zombies with Mike's being
Speaker 1: like have this podcast. You're now endorsed by this company
Speaker 1: that mails you things that you used to buy from
Speaker 1: the CVS right yeah. Podcast. Speaking of grifts, Miles, do
Speaker 1: you remember that Build the Wall We the people will
Speaker 1: Build the Wall go fund me that raised million dollars?
Speaker 1: How could I forget something that on its face was
Speaker 1: like immediately visible that this was scan It was such
Speaker 1: a beautiful So we did an episode about this, which
Speaker 1: you can check out. Katie and Cody were the guests
Speaker 1: on that one. I think, um and I don't like
Speaker 1: them anymore because I work with them on another podcast,
Speaker 1: so like them, we're angry at each other. Now now
Speaker 1: let's they're just it's they were they're podcasting too much. Um.
Speaker 1: So we we talked about them, and basically the gist
Speaker 1: of it is that this guy, Brian cole Fage, who
Speaker 1: was like he likes to brand himself as the most
Speaker 1: severely injured airman in the U S air man in Iraq,
Speaker 1: which might be true. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: you like measured that, but he was like horrifically wounded.
Speaker 1: He was on his way to the gym on a
Speaker 1: base in the Green Zone when a mortar landed right
Speaker 1: next to him and he lost his legs and like
Speaker 1: part of an arm like that, he got really fucked up, um,
Speaker 1: like about as badly as you can without dying. Um.
Speaker 1: So he came back home and he started like a
Speaker 1: fake news empire on Facebook with like all these right
Speaker 1: wing news websites, and he's making quite a bit of
Speaker 1: money before Facebook shut his whole network down because it
Speaker 1: was like he was breaking their terms of service a
Speaker 1: bunch um with like a bunch of coordinated and authentic
Speaker 1: activity and stuff, oh like all the yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: they shut him down and when his money's biggott got
Speaker 1: turned off and there's like articles from people who worked
Speaker 1: at them at the time he said that guy has
Speaker 1: a horrible temper. He could get like violent and stuff
Speaker 1: at the drop of a hat. He's he's just a
Speaker 1: very unpleasant person. Um. Which you know, I'm sure some
Speaker 1: of that's horrific trauma, but it doesn't excuse grifting thousands
Speaker 1: of people, which is what he did next. So he
Speaker 1: created a go fund me for we the People will
Speaker 1: Build the Wall. There's now confirmed evidence that they were
Speaker 1: talking with members of the Trump administration. They had like
Speaker 1: meetings with them. There was talk of like trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how to take the funds that they got
Speaker 1: and roll it over or like you know, there was
Speaker 1: there was official correspondence that they had with members of
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and likes or the Trump team. And
Speaker 1: as soon as like this thing took off, which you know,
Speaker 1: it was pretty much immediately making raising millions of dollars,
Speaker 1: a bunch of other famous right wing grifters got on board,
Speaker 1: including our old buddies Steve Bannon. Eric Prince was on
Speaker 1: the board of the foundation they set up to deal
Speaker 1: with the money. So like basically when it became clear that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, so the initial idea was like, we're going
Speaker 1: to raise money to give to the government so that
Speaker 1: they can build this wall because the damn Libs won't
Speaker 1: give it to us. Yeah, and that it became clear
Speaker 1: that like that's not really how the government works, Like
Speaker 1: you can't just you can't just go fund me. Um,
Speaker 1: a border wall that would be number one involved like
Speaker 1: building on massive amounts of private land and like all
Speaker 1: of this ship like you just it's not a thing
Speaker 1: that gets to be done. Um. So they changed the
Speaker 1: focus of it to like we're going to actually build
Speaker 1: the wall. Um. And they they you know, because they
Speaker 1: were altering sort of the nature of what they were doing.
Speaker 1: Go fund Me allowed people to kind of opt in
Speaker 1: to continue having their money roll over into the new
Speaker 1: thing that they were doing, and most people who donated
Speaker 1: agreed to do it. There's a bunch of shady stuff,
Speaker 1: and like their explanation of what they were doing, including
Speaker 1: the point that like the money will be used either
Speaker 1: to actually construct the wall or to engage in you know,
Speaker 1: lobbying or whatever that will help to construct the wall.
Speaker 1: So there's like a bunch of stuff where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: so you're going to became very clear, like you're going
Speaker 1: to find ways to put this in the pockets of
Speaker 1: the very famous right wing people who have all leapt
Speaker 1: onto this program, including Steve Bannon and Eric Prince. And
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things they repeatedly stated when
Speaker 1: this all happened is that Brian Colefaje, who was founder
Speaker 1: and the face of the thing, was not going to
Speaker 1: receive any money. UM, would not be paid, wasn't going
Speaker 1: to make any a dime off of this. It was
Speaker 1: just you know, doing it out of the goodness of
Speaker 1: his heart. UM. And then uh, last week, Uh, all
Speaker 1: of these guys got arrested UM, which is the best
Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened that Steve Bannon has now for
Speaker 1: more than a week been incarcerated. Um, it just it
Speaker 1: just slaps unbelievably hard. The thing with that though, like
Speaker 1: listening to these people, knowing Eric Prince is on that board, right,
Speaker 1: he should know better than you, should know better than
Speaker 1: anyone that like building like sical infrastructure on like in
Speaker 1: the United States is probably a long shot, Like he
Speaker 1: you have a better chance crowdfunding a private air force.
Speaker 1: I feel like then being like, yeah, we're just gonna
Speaker 1: build chunks of border wall because you know, fucking America.
Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed in Eric, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like he should he knows, out of anyone, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna pull some wildly illegal kind of stuff where you're
Speaker 1: trying to take the place of the government, you gotta
Speaker 1: start up, you gotta you gotta be a little more surgical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but he doesn't, like he's he he's committed
Speaker 1: so many more blatant crimes to this, and he always
Speaker 1: gets away with it because he's a billionaire. Um that said,
Speaker 1: I don't think he was super involved with this. Um
Speaker 1: like this was like legitimized side piece for him. Yeah yeah, um,
Speaker 1: you know, but it is. It is. So it's turned
Speaker 1: into this amazing story where like again like the fucking
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon's got arrested as a result of this, there's
Speaker 1: pictures of him now fucking in handcuffs and it's it's
Speaker 1: one of the best things that's ever happened. And it
Speaker 1: was the best thing about it is that it was
Speaker 1: like the Postal Services Investigative Unit, which is the first
Speaker 1: federal law enforcement agency we all learned when they arrested
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon. Um damn. So I guess, I guess I'll
Speaker 1: say maybe not all cops are bad, like we've we've
Speaker 1: got like I'm willing to make an exception for the
Speaker 1: post Office cops given what happened recently exactly. And then
Speaker 1: like we said, like even with the post Office under fire,
Speaker 1: like if we're going to back the blue, is going
Speaker 1: to be the Postal Service, Yeah, it's gonna be the
Speaker 1: These are the ones I'm I'm I'm I'm a hundred
Speaker 1: percent supportive of arresting Steve Bannon on a yacht. Cut
Speaker 1: to some like wild clip of like postal like postal
Speaker 1: police brutality, and you're like, what even y'all, I thought
Speaker 1: you were the mail cops. No, that's they actually committed
Speaker 1: genocide against all these different tribes. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I've never heard that the post Office committed genocide, but like,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, it wouldn't be the most surprising thing
Speaker 1: in American history. Um, but that I let's not make
Speaker 1: random allegations of genocide against the Postal Service. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: let We've got the charging document, which is the it's
Speaker 1: basically like a podcast episode written by a United States
Speaker 1: district court, in this case, the Southern District of New York,
Speaker 1: UM to summarize the government's case against all of the
Speaker 1: crime doer spied. The we the people will build the
Speaker 1: wall con um and I'm just gonna start reading it
Speaker 1: to you. Miles will skim some parts of it when
Speaker 1: it gets boring, but like, in fact, I'm just gonna read.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get me. I'm like because I love
Speaker 1: sometimes you know that these cases, especially in this Trump era,
Speaker 1: where just the like legal description of your like these amazing.
Speaker 1: How did they think any of this was going to
Speaker 1: work or they weren't going to get caught? I mean,
Speaker 1: the thing that's more amazing to me is that they
Speaker 1: did get caught. Like clearly, whatever else is going on
Speaker 1: in the world, Steve Bannon and Brian cole Fage did
Speaker 1: not have the the cloud they thought they had, because
Speaker 1: they thought they had the cloud that like Roger Stone has,
Speaker 1: where we can commit blatant crimes and we will get
Speaker 1: forgiven for it um or will they'll be too scared
Speaker 1: of us to go after us. And it just wasn't
Speaker 1: true for them. And I don't know why entirely, but
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Yeah, maybe it was that it was too blatant.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was that, you know, they didn't kiss the
Speaker 1: right asses. I don't know what the the explanation is,
Speaker 1: but let's let's get into it. The grand jury charges
Speaker 1: one Brian Colfage, Stephen Bannon, Andrew Battle Laddo, and Timothy Shay.
Speaker 1: The defendants and others orchestrated a scheme to defraud hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of donors, including donors in the Southern District
Speaker 1: in New York, in connection with an online crowdfunding campaign
Speaker 1: ultimately known as We Build the Wall that raised more
Speaker 1: than twenty five million dollars to build a wall along
Speaker 1: the southern border of the United States to induce donors
Speaker 1: to donate to the campaign. Colfage and Bannon, each of whom,
Speaker 1: as detailed here in exerted significant control over We Build
Speaker 1: the Wall, repeatedly and falsely assured the public that Colfage
Speaker 1: would quote not take a penny and salary or compensation,
Speaker 1: and that quote one percent of the funds raised will
Speaker 1: be used in the execution of our mission and purpose, because,
Speaker 1: as Bannon publicly stated, we're a volunteer organization. These representations
Speaker 1: were false in truth. Brian cole Fage, Stephen Bannon, Andrew
Speaker 1: battle Otto, and Timothy Shay, the defendants, collectively received hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars and donor funds from We Buld
Speaker 1: the Wall, which they each used in a manner inconsistent
Speaker 1: with the organization's public representations. In particular, call Fas covertly
Speaker 1: took more than three hundred fifty thousand dollars and funds
Speaker 1: that had been donated to we Buld the Wall for
Speaker 1: his personal use. Well, Bannon, through a nonprofit organization under
Speaker 1: his control, Nonprofit One, received over a million dollars from
Speaker 1: We Build the Wall, which Bannon used to, among other things,
Speaker 1: secretly pay coal fag and to cover hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars and Bannons personal expenses. Dude was his thing
Speaker 1: on nonprofit. Oh, that was just in the charging documents.
Speaker 1: It's non problem I thought of, which makes sense because
Speaker 1: it's a legal document. I was hoping that Steve bann
Speaker 1: is like such a lazy Skimer, that he's like a funk.
Speaker 1: I gotta put a nonprofit together to fucking be able
Speaker 1: to move this money around. I call it a nonprofit one.
Speaker 1: It's like my idea. I've always wanted to create an
Speaker 1: LLC for a variety of reasons and call it unlimited
Speaker 1: liability because there's something in my brain that enjoys the
Speaker 1: idea of unlimited liability. A limited liability corporation funlimited liability.
Speaker 1: To conceal the payments to co Fage from We Build
Speaker 1: the Wall call Fage, Bannon, bat Lato, and Shade devised
Speaker 1: a scheme to route these payments from We Build the
Speaker 1: Wall to co Fage indirectly through a nonprofit and a
Speaker 1: shell company under Shay's control, among other avenues. They did
Speaker 1: so by using fake invoices and sham vendor arrangements, among
Speaker 1: other ways, to ensure as co Fage noted in a
Speaker 1: text message to batt Alato that his pay arrangement remained
Speaker 1: confidential and kept on a need to know basis. So again,
Speaker 1: committing crimes and texting about it, Yeah, what a hallmark
Speaker 1: of of this group of people, just like yeah, yeah this,
Speaker 1: we make our own receipts here. I have. I know
Speaker 1: so many people that like, because of the protests, like
Speaker 1: won't text message about the shield materials that they're like
Speaker 1: gathering so that people can build like defensive devices to
Speaker 1: protect themselves from impact weapons. Like they're paranoid about like
Speaker 1: gathering fucking uh like rubber and and foam inserts and stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: And these guys are just like, yeah, I gotta go
Speaker 1: steal a million dollars, you guys, Like here's that we're
Speaker 1: doing it right, And also use this fake vendor like
Speaker 1: like weet up to illegally funnel money through to do
Speaker 1: this illegal thing that we're all doing together. You guys
Speaker 1: all down for the illegal crimes that we're committing. It's
Speaker 1: so easy to be a conservative. We are defrauding the
Speaker 1: American people with our build a wall scheme. Please like,
Speaker 1: please use the tap back in your messages app and
Speaker 1: your iPhone to confirm your that you were culpable. I
Speaker 1: know people who live in paranoia because they're getting followed
Speaker 1: as a result of bringing water every night to two
Speaker 1: demonstrations and like this ship nonsense, fucking hell. On or
Speaker 1: around December seventeen, two thou eighteen, Brian call Fage, the defendant,
Speaker 1: with the assistance of others, launched a fundraising campaign originally
Speaker 1: called We the People Build the Wall on a crowdfunding website.
Speaker 1: The crowdfunding websites that's referred to in the document, it's
Speaker 1: go fund me. According to statements on the web page
Speaker 1: for we the People Build the Wall on the crowd
Speaker 1: funding website, it's just so very funny. It just looks
Speaker 1: very silly, and you can't you can't say that without laughing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the crowd funding website, the crowd Like come on, guys,
Speaker 1: this is like, yeah, this is like when a fucking
Speaker 1: movie uses some sort of fake Google thing, like the
Speaker 1: Researcher or whatever. It's like, come on, guy, we know
Speaker 1: it's Google. The campaign was raising funds to donate to
Speaker 1: the United States federal government for construction of a wall
Speaker 1: at the southern border of the United States. The web
Speaker 1: page also stated that your donations would be given to
Speaker 1: the government for the construction of a wall, and that
Speaker 1: if the campaign could not attain its goal, it would
Speaker 1: refund every single penny. The We the People Build the
Speaker 1: Wall campaign was an immediate fundraising success. Within the first week,
Speaker 1: Brian cole Fage, the defendant, with the assistance of Timothy Shay,
Speaker 1: the Defendant, raised approximately seventeen million dollars. Despite its early success,
Speaker 1: the campaign also drew scrutiny, including questions about call flag
Speaker 1: is background and the campaign's planned to give the money
Speaker 1: raised to the federal government. Based on those concerns, In
Speaker 1: or around December two thousand eighteen, go fund Me, which
Speaker 1: they crowdfunding website, suspended the campaign, which by that point
Speaker 1: had raised more than twenty million dollars, and warned Brian
Speaker 1: call Fage, the defendant, that unless he identified a legitimate
Speaker 1: nonprofit organization into which these funds could be transferred, the
Speaker 1: crowdfunding website would return the funds. At around the same time,
Speaker 1: Brian cole Fage, that defendant, involved Stephen Bannon and Andrew
Speaker 1: battle Lotto, the defendants and the leadership of the campaign. Bannon,
Speaker 1: a political strategist and former media executive and Battle Lotto,
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and venture capitalist. We're already working together on
Speaker 1: nonprofit one, which was a separate Section five oh one
Speaker 1: C four organization founded by Bannon with the stated purpose
Speaker 1: of promoting economic nationalism and American sovereignty. Fascist. We can
Speaker 1: go that one. Fascism, economic nationalism, fascist, and he uses
Speaker 1: his fun fancy fascist nonprofit to funnel donations into illegally,
Speaker 1: which is just very on brand. Within days of becoming involved,
Speaker 1: Stephen Bannon and Andrew battleaddo that defendants took significant control
Speaker 1: of the fundraising campaigns, organization, and day to day activities.
Speaker 1: So basically they took They immediately took control of We
Speaker 1: the People Will Build the Wall. Um. And by like
Speaker 1: late December two thousand eighteen, um, they were basically in charge.
Speaker 1: And they created a new five O one C four
Speaker 1: called We Build the Wall, Inc. And they proposed that
Speaker 1: the money you know, would be transferred there um and
Speaker 1: the nonprofit we build yeah, yeah, nonprofit to build to
Speaker 1: to finance private construction of a wall along the southern border. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, And they gave a bunch of assurances to
Speaker 1: go fund me uh that like this was all legitimate
Speaker 1: and the money would all go to act like to this,
Speaker 1: to this new five of one C four they'd founded
Speaker 1: UH in order to induce UH go fund me to
Speaker 1: release the donor funds. UH. These insurances include I'm quoting again.
Speaker 1: These assurances included, among other things, written by laws with
Speaker 1: conflict of interest provisions and compensation restrictions precluding insiders like
Speaker 1: call Fage, among others, from inappropriately misusing donor funds. And
Speaker 1: I promise that call Fage will take no salary and
Speaker 1: will personally not take a penny of compensation from these donations.
Speaker 1: Call Fage, Bannon and Battlelato also agreed that donors would
Speaker 1: have to opt in too, having their contribution redirected from
Speaker 1: the crowdfunding website to we build the wall. So they
Speaker 1: they hung themselves here. They like, they made a legal
Speaker 1: document promising that in no way would among other things,
Speaker 1: call Fage get any money from this, because it was
Speaker 1: the only way to get the money, and they just
Speaker 1: assumed it would be fine because so many other crimes
Speaker 1: that these people and their friends committed were fine. It's
Speaker 1: just like like how scumbag men think to like with sex.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, what I gotta say to have sex,
Speaker 1: you know, and after that may not mean it, but
Speaker 1: I'm so just shortsighted about my own gratification. I will
Speaker 1: deceive and lie just to get there without any thinking
Speaker 1: of like where that goes after the fact. And I
Speaker 1: just love that, like this scam is so fucking American,
Speaker 1: and that like your weaponizing like the fear of black
Speaker 1: and brown people to then enrich yourself, and like when
Speaker 1: really you could give a fuck about any of it
Speaker 1: aside from purely as being like, oh this is great
Speaker 1: as a great group of just dummies to just rintse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's evidence of what those of us who are
Speaker 1: are vaguely aware of like objective reality, um, have known
Speaker 1: for a long time, which is that like almost none
Speaker 1: of these fascists, with the exception of really like Stephen
Speaker 1: Miller and a couple others, almost none of them believe
Speaker 1: in what they're saying. It's just the best way to
Speaker 1: get what they want, which is money and power. Like
Speaker 1: if these guys, if their primary concern was a legal immigration,
Speaker 1: they would have tried to use they would have used
Speaker 1: this money to in some way fuck over migrants, right,
Speaker 1: Like whether or not it was the wall, that's what
Speaker 1: they would have done this huge amount of money, um,
Speaker 1: and they would have gotten nothing but praise from the donors,
Speaker 1: even if it wasn't a wall, even it was some
Speaker 1: other way of hurting these people. Um, But they didn't
Speaker 1: even really care about hurting those people. They just wanted
Speaker 1: to steal. And it's awesome. It's so good that in
Speaker 1: this one rare instance, they faced consequences. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you hate to see it and you love to see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's yeah, it's so good. It's so audacious.
Speaker 1: But again, I don't know what. Ever, every time, like
Speaker 1: even when whenever I come on this show, it's I'm
Speaker 1: always like, damn, the audacity of these But that really
Speaker 1: is the true DNA of a true historical piece of ship. Bastard,
Speaker 1: is you really you have us. You're just all about
Speaker 1: yourself and there's absolutely zero consideration for anything aside for
Speaker 1: your own it's like just your very own personal lived experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it works for them usually because it's an effective
Speaker 1: strategy in winning in our system, is to only give
Speaker 1: a shit about yourself and be like sociopathically dedicated to
Speaker 1: nothing but your own enrichment, right, Like that works in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, except for occasionally you get arrested
Speaker 1: on a yacht by the post Office. Got to be
Speaker 1: like you no way, I wonder if you're pissed, You're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: it's it would be at least like the FEDS or
Speaker 1: something like the bed FEDS. It's did you have to
Speaker 1: wear that hat to I hope they did. I hope
Speaker 1: they're They're exactly the same as a normal swat team,
Speaker 1: but with the hats just and not even the tach gear,
Speaker 1: Like they don't even have weapons. They're just like very
Speaker 1: coordinated group of mail carriers that are like or if
Speaker 1: we can do this without what would I wouldn't funk
Speaker 1: with a group of mail delivery I mean essentially, I
Speaker 1: mean that work for the postal service too. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're actually dealing with people with some experience in the
Speaker 1: military as well. So yeah, so man uh. Beginning in
Speaker 1: January too, that and nineteen, the defendants caused we Build
Speaker 1: the Wall to mislead donors, promising them repeatedly that a
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the funds would be used for construction
Speaker 1: of a wall, and that call Fage in particular, would
Speaker 1: take no salary or compensation, and obviously contrary to this,
Speaker 1: they were immediately misappropriating hundreds of thousands of dollars and
Speaker 1: funds for their own benefit. Beginning on around January eleventh
Speaker 1: to that's and nineteen, and consistent with the insurances provided
Speaker 1: to the crowdfunding website, we Build the Wall announced that
Speaker 1: it had changed its mission to the private construction of
Speaker 1: a wall and that donors needed to opt in. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and that worked out. Um. And it seemed like,
Speaker 1: you know, the document is alleging that this worked because
Speaker 1: of their promise that a hundred percent of the funds
Speaker 1: raised would be used towards the construction of a wall
Speaker 1: and that not a penny would be used to compensate colvage.
Speaker 1: They repeatedly made these preperation, like they're standing basically over
Speaker 1: and over again. They couldn't stop making these promises. And
Speaker 1: they're making these promises is why so many people willing
Speaker 1: to like donate the money. Um. And it's why it's
Speaker 1: so easy for us to prove that they repeatedly broke
Speaker 1: the broke the law. Yeah, I'm sure like the comments
Speaker 1: of the Trump family helped too, because I remember, like
Speaker 1: don J was like, look at you, look at this
Speaker 1: man like this is an example of American enterprise or
Speaker 1: some ship and like the whole he's a hero. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna there's doing it better, faster and cheaper than
Speaker 1: anything else. Like yeah, definitely cheaper and ship than anything else.
Speaker 1: If I had to choose between the government spending hundreds
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars on incomplete sections of wall that
Speaker 1: are easily breached or dollars on nothing, I would I
Speaker 1: will choose the nothing also because I prefer there not
Speaker 1: be any wall on the southern border or um. And
Speaker 1: in fact, if we could just spend twenty five million
Speaker 1: dollars a year and have it go to right wing
Speaker 1: grifters and have an open border on the south, UM,
Speaker 1: I would. I would make that compromise. That's that's a
Speaker 1: that's something I'm willing to to get on board with,
Speaker 1: right right, Like, dude, just take your money and off,
Speaker 1: just take your money and like stop sucking with these people.
Speaker 1: So just you know, we just printed a bunch of
Speaker 1: that ship. We don't know what how much it's really worth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: U so call fas posted messages on social media that
Speaker 1: included representations such as we promised a hundred percent of
Speaker 1: the funds raised only go to border wall construction. All
Speaker 1: money donated to We Build the Wall goes directly to
Speaker 1: wall to wall, not anyone's pocket. I'm taking nothing zero.
Speaker 1: In fact, ko Fasch went so far as to send
Speaker 1: massy emails to his donors asking the purchase coffee from
Speaker 1: his unrelated business, telling donors that the coffee company was
Speaker 1: the only way he keeps his family fed in a
Speaker 1: roof over their head. Because Foch was taking no compensation
Speaker 1: from We Build the Wall, couldn't stop double dipping. Like
Speaker 1: none of them have any sort of self control. They
Speaker 1: can't fucking double dip. It's h hey that then again,
Speaker 1: even when you add the layers of just balls to this,
Speaker 1: where you're like, dude, I'm fucking stealing from you, and
Speaker 1: then I'm also going to have my shitty coffee company
Speaker 1: and built you for more cash from there. My hat's
Speaker 1: off to him. It's start. You know who doesn't sponsor
Speaker 1: this show, That shitty coffee company. But you know who
Speaker 1: does sponsor this show, Oh the good people at Raytheon, Yes,
Speaker 1: Raytheon Miles. You know what's better than a border wall
Speaker 1: for stopping migrants from crossing the border. Oh? Yeah, predator drones.
Speaker 1: Predator drones armed with the new r X nine knife missile. Yes,
Speaker 1: the knife missile allows you to knife people from the
Speaker 1: sky using the power of the federal government. And which
Speaker 1: is and gravity less of a factor, you know, the
Speaker 1: night the beautiful. The beauty of Raytheon technology is that
Speaker 1: it functions equally where well in a zero G environment,
Speaker 1: so that when in the inevitable future we have Moon
Speaker 1: refugees will be able to shoot them with knife missiles
Speaker 1: two miles. That's the promise of Raytheon. Actually, you're saying
Speaker 1: it wrong. It's Gray Theon. Let's roll some ads. We're back,
Speaker 1: all right, So yeah. Again. It goes on for a while,
Speaker 1: for like another page or so about how many different
Speaker 1: ways he promised in public, in in a binding legal manner,
Speaker 1: that he would take no compensation from this and how
Speaker 1: often all of the defendants, including Steve Bannon, signed off
Speaker 1: in one way or another and promoted the fact that
Speaker 1: he would take no like. All of this seems to
Speaker 1: be resting on the fact that Brian cole Fage specifically
Speaker 1: got money from this um and none of them they
Speaker 1: just no one thought anyone would notice anything. I don't
Speaker 1: I it's I can't get my head around it, because
Speaker 1: do you think because like they were just sort of
Speaker 1: being like, if we hide behind this person whose body
Speaker 1: was mangled in war, and that will sort of get
Speaker 1: like sort of give him this position where you wouldn't
Speaker 1: dare question their patriotism like in that like they were
Speaker 1: also sort of like getting really hyped up on that
Speaker 1: idea too, for like the whole sort of grift of
Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, I think they figured that, like they
Speaker 1: could that nobody on the right and nobody in the
Speaker 1: Trump administration would ever allow anything bad to happen to
Speaker 1: cole Flage because he's but like and it's the same.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see how this situation in Kenosha
Speaker 1: with the mass shooter goes. But like the Trump campaign's
Speaker 1: initial thing was to be like, oh, he's not affiliated
Speaker 1: with us in any way, we support with law enforcement
Speaker 1: did um interesting and charging him with murder? Um. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll see because obviously there's folks in there right that
Speaker 1: want to like adopt that kid as a mascot. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the Trump I think he's actually speaking
Speaker 1: at the RNCA. I don't actually know like what Trump.
Speaker 1: They all are gonna wind up doing about this. But
Speaker 1: like the initial thing they did was what their actual
Speaker 1: initial reaction is, which is, oh, this person's a liability.
Speaker 1: Let's jettison them immediately. Maybe they'll decide against that, but
Speaker 1: like that's what they've done with cole Fag. Like they
Speaker 1: haven't they haven't made any sort of a stink about
Speaker 1: the arrest of Cool Fager Band, and they've just been like, yep,
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have sucked up and broken the law. We
Speaker 1: support law enforce. But because like, no, they don't give
Speaker 1: a shit about you. Their their their hearts must be
Speaker 1: breaking right now. Yeah, it's like what the funk Steve
Speaker 1: you said would be fine? So let's go on to
Speaker 1: just how fucking blatant this is. So, the document continues
Speaker 1: to note. In developing the strategy of emphasizing to donors
Speaker 1: that co Fage would not be paid a dime, Bannon
Speaker 1: and battle Loado, in a text message exchange, discussed how
Speaker 1: that message would help drive fundraising and options by prior
Speaker 1: donors because it would, as bat Alato stated, become the
Speaker 1: most talked about media narrative ever since it removes all
Speaker 1: self interest taint and gives Brian Colfage sainthood. For that reason,
Speaker 1: Battlato insisted that the statement that Cofage will not take
Speaker 1: a penny of compensation be included in the email too.
Speaker 1: We build the walls donors about the opt in process,
Speaker 1: explaining in an email that his statement was a material
Speaker 1: item two donors. Again, let us all state clearly in
Speaker 1: text messages, how like that we are committing a crime,
Speaker 1: that we are making legally binding promises that we intend
Speaker 1: to break. Let's just all talk about that, very clear
Speaker 1: documents like, don't even use the finesse of like voice
Speaker 1: messages back and forth, so kind of temporary transmission whatever.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just cement it all there. They made it
Speaker 1: really easy for the Postal Investigative Service. What are they
Speaker 1: technically called U S p I S or something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, YAHOUTFIC cops the only cops that
Speaker 1: I'm supportive of until somebody tells me about the horrible
Speaker 1: things that they've done, I'm sure, and then we'll have
Speaker 1: another episode and the police cops. All I know is
Speaker 1: that they arrest fascists on yachts. I speak for all
Speaker 1: of your listeners. Can you stop? Can you stop predicting things?
Speaker 1: They're going to choose for a moment to believe that
Speaker 1: there's a law enforcement agency who just who just arrests
Speaker 1: yacht fascists. I want to believe in something, and I'm
Speaker 1: choosing to believe in this for the moment. Yes, I
Speaker 1: mean it should stop footing horrible things about everything and
Speaker 1: then it happening, like all of us would be like
Speaker 1: super appreciative if you could like predict something good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to predict that the only other thing the
Speaker 1: Post Office cops do is arrest people who will legally
Speaker 1: mail kittens. They're just that they're just out there protecting
Speaker 1: kittens and arresting fascists. I've decided to believe this and
Speaker 1: making like some of the best like sort of small
Speaker 1: batch artisanal ice cream you've ever tasted. Yeah, they make
Speaker 1: ice cream for some reason too, um, and it's it's
Speaker 1: apparently great. So yeah, that's a that's a world I
Speaker 1: want to so. Moreover, the thing goes on to note, uh,
Speaker 1: the defendants conveyed that others in the leadership we Build
Speaker 1: Wall and its advisory board, which Bannon shared, would not
Speaker 1: be compensated. For example, called fag wrote on social media,
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty clear. I made a promise
Speaker 1: that I would never take a penny. A hundred percent
Speaker 1: of fundraising through donations will only go towards the walls
Speaker 1: percent right, board won't see any of that money. So
Speaker 1: they just kept promising that everything they were going to
Speaker 1: do was Yeah, it's cut to their texture. They're like,
Speaker 1: hundred percent means fucking maybe five percent. Board will see
Speaker 1: as much of that money as they want. All right,
Speaker 1: So what do we tell him? This next part's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: So this goes into like how many of the donors
Speaker 1: believed what he was saying. Donors took notice of this
Speaker 1: coronarative and told Brian call Fage, the defendants, and others
Speaker 1: working for We Build the Wall that it mattered to them.
Speaker 1: Some of those donors were wrote directly to call Fage
Speaker 1: that they did not have a lot of money and
Speaker 1: were skeptical about online fundraising campaigns, but they were giving
Speaker 1: what they could because they trusted Colfage would keep his
Speaker 1: word about how their donations would be spent. Call Flage
Speaker 1: also wrote to prospective donors who raised concerns and sharing
Speaker 1: the donors in private messages that he was not being
Speaker 1: compensated these false assurances successfully induced donors to give money
Speaker 1: to We Build the Wall and opt in to have
Speaker 1: their prior donations transferred to We Build the Walls new
Speaker 1: nonprofit entity. Of the original twenty million raised from hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of donors, most of the donors agreeded to
Speaker 1: opt in, so that I didn't realize. But the fact
Speaker 1: that they even have that that like no, no, individual
Speaker 1: donors who didn't have much money personally reached out to
Speaker 1: Brian with their concerns and he lied to these people
Speaker 1: to their phases is It's so sweet. It's so perfect.
Speaker 1: It's so I mean, it's so Trump University too, you know,
Speaker 1: where people are like you know there, it's like their
Speaker 1: last shot. This is my dialysis money. Yeah, and in
Speaker 1: this case it's like I want to brutalize the brown
Speaker 1: people something. Yeah, I know. But it's just so funny
Speaker 1: that like even then, right, they're so committed to this
Speaker 1: like you know, fear of a black and brown America
Speaker 1: that they're just sort of like you know, giving their
Speaker 1: last material like bit of like wealth they have to
Speaker 1: this stupid mirrage of racism. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things like people I I do.
Speaker 1: Like people ask why I don't do more crowdfunding stuff,
Speaker 1: and it is because like when you do crowdfunding stuff,
Speaker 1: you get donations from people who will make statements like that, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I believe in what you're doing. I don't have much money,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I felt like a piece of
Speaker 1: ship every time that's happened. So I would rather take
Speaker 1: I would rather, you know, be paid by advertisers then
Speaker 1: than yes, someone give. Yeah, I don't. I just don't
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to. I don't want that
Speaker 1: on my fucking conscience. I don't want to. Like, oh,
Speaker 1: and now I'm spending the money, um, you know on
Speaker 1: grub Hub tonight or whatever or like izza, and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh funk, this was this, Like I I don't want
Speaker 1: to co It's just no, I'm I will. I will
Speaker 1: sell products and services. Yeah exactly. And that's like that's
Speaker 1: my line. I'm not saying it's immoral to crowdfund. I
Speaker 1: think it's fine. A lot of my friends make their
Speaker 1: living that way. It's just like it fucked me up. Uh,
Speaker 1: and I'll probably do something like it again, but I'll
Speaker 1: again repeatedly begged people please don't donate money if you
Speaker 1: don't have money, like it's not important to my rich
Speaker 1: friends only. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, so um. Despite these
Speaker 1: repeated assurance Okay, so this is yeah. Despite these repeated assurances,
Speaker 1: the public narrative, correct deliberately crafted by the defendants and others,
Speaker 1: was false. In fact, although We the Wall spent money
Speaker 1: on the construction of a border wall, hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars were siphoned out if We Build the Wall
Speaker 1: for the private use and benefit of the defendants. Indeed,
Speaker 1: despite co Fage's numerous public statements that he was not
Speaker 1: taking his salary or getting a penny in compensation, within
Speaker 1: days of launching We Build the Wall, call Fage, working
Speaker 1: primarily with Bannon and battle Oto, reached a secret agreement
Speaker 1: whereby call Fag should be covertly paid a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars up front and then twenty thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1: Because that arrangement was directly contrary to the defendants repeated
Speaker 1: public representations, the defendants and other scheme to pass these
Speaker 1: payments to Cofage indirectly through third parties, including entities under
Speaker 1: the control of Bannon and Shay um so, yeah, they
Speaker 1: this is the stuff that we, you know, we talked about.
Speaker 1: Bannon made it clear in a text message to battle
Speaker 1: Lotto that there would be no deals I don't approve
Speaker 1: and directed that co Fage be paid indirectly through Nonprofit
Speaker 1: one in an attempt to conceal the payments from the public,
Speaker 1: notwithstanding the fact that co Fage did no work for
Speaker 1: nonprofit one and that the payments from nonprofit one to
Speaker 1: call Fage would be funded by build we build the wall.
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, there's text messages between Bannon and Battlelado
Speaker 1: talking about what fasch is salary would be. Um he
Speaker 1: Bannon directs the wiring of money illegally from the campaign.
Speaker 1: Uh to this. Yeah, Like they've got Bannon dead to
Speaker 1: fucking rights. It sounds like he's he's discussing, here are
Speaker 1: the crimes we will commit. These are crimes because we
Speaker 1: have like we have to keep these crimes secret because
Speaker 1: they were legal. Here's how I'm going to do that.
Speaker 1: And then we have him personally like doing the wire
Speaker 1: payments and stuff. That's amazing. Oh god, this next part
Speaker 1: when co fag later noted in a text message to
Speaker 1: battle Loado that at least in part as a result
Speaker 1: of these pass through payments, we build the wall would
Speaker 1: have to disclose substantial payments to one on tax forms.
Speaker 1: Battle Latta replied, better you than me l O l
Speaker 1: L stupid pieces of ship. Yeah, lawfully officially, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like what did you just that a whole cent? I
Speaker 1: mean wow, at every turn, like you had to be
Speaker 1: like wink wink, like it almost could have been that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I seal the payments ca
Speaker 1: Fag received from nonprofit one co Fage instructed Battle a
Speaker 1: lot of that the payments should be made to call
Speaker 1: Fag's spouse and that nonprofit one significant and nonprofit one
Speaker 1: subsequently issued a form falsely stating that it had paid
Speaker 1: ca spouse for media, so that just hey, you know
Speaker 1: what we should do is falsify some government documents. I
Speaker 1: paid you for media. Okay, now if they ask what happened,
Speaker 1: was you held you took some photos of me for Instagram? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fucking incredible, Like there was a lot of like those
Speaker 1: like fake gass vendors. Was always like vague, right, like
Speaker 1: media like social media or some ship yeah for media,
Speaker 1: like he sucking assholes thereafter beginning in or around April
Speaker 1: nineteen and to further conceal payments if We Build the
Speaker 1: Wall funds to Bryan co Fage that defended his secret
Speaker 1: monthly salary of approximately twenty was passed indirectly through the
Speaker 1: third party entities that were purported vendors for We Build
Speaker 1: the Wall, including one under the control of Timothy Shay,
Speaker 1: the defendant, Starting in around March two thousand nineteen, Shay,
Speaker 1: who had been involved in early operations for the predecessor
Speaker 1: campaign to Weeld the Wall and was familiar with its
Speaker 1: repeated promises, proposed in a text message exchange with co
Speaker 1: Faje paying co Fag and himself out of a veiled
Speaker 1: shell corporation to conceal the source in nature of the payments.
Speaker 1: Shay suggested that to conceal transactions where, for instant instance,
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars comes in and he transfers three
Speaker 1: to cole Fage, they could create companies that hired co
Speaker 1: Fash and Shafe whose service like consulting to further conceal
Speaker 1: the secret arrangement. Co Fasch told Shay in an email
Speaker 1: that they could falsely describe the payments from the new
Speaker 1: shell entity to cole Fage as for social media, love it,
Speaker 1: love it. It's just I mean, because yeah, those forms
Speaker 1: that it just really feels like when you're like being
Speaker 1: lazy and trying to do your tax and you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah that business, internet, social media, sure,
Speaker 1: and it's just my salary. Yep, it's it's the best.
Speaker 1: That's when like at one point too, right, didn't they
Speaker 1: like kind of wise up that, like they were kind
Speaker 1: of being a sloppy with it, Because I feel like
Speaker 1: I remember at the beginning of this year to that Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. Um. Yeah. The memo lines on these payments,
Speaker 1: yeah sir again. On or around May nineteen, Shell Company
Speaker 1: one received a thirty thousand dollar wire from Rebuild the Wall.
Speaker 1: Uh then it got you know, paid twenty thousand to
Speaker 1: cold Fage. The memo lines on these payments falsely stated
Speaker 1: that they were for social media accounts and pages, when
Speaker 1: neither coal Fage nor anyone else had done such work
Speaker 1: for Shell Have them at least do fake work like
Speaker 1: putting the make on the fucking Donald Trump sub bred
Speaker 1: to get you some fucking memes, some ship posts or something. Yeah. Moreover,
Speaker 1: additional twenty dollar payments are made a co fage and
Speaker 1: funded with money from we Build the Wall, uh to.
Speaker 1: These payments were made in subsequent months until at least
Speaker 1: October two, thou nineteen, when US discussed below the defendants
Speaker 1: learned that they might be under criminal investigation. Oh god,
Speaker 1: that's good. That must they must have been, dude, I
Speaker 1: can only imagine how much Steve Bannon's stress sweat was
Speaker 1: just stinking whatever room he was. Yeah, I hope there
Speaker 1: were respirators left over from the fighting in Portland for
Speaker 1: those post office guys to like deal with that to board,
Speaker 1: that stinking board, that stink. Yet, I'll donate mine, right,
Speaker 1: like honestly, like we would sort of confiscate this and
Speaker 1: maybe auction it off. But yeah, we're just gonna have
Speaker 1: to scuttle this night. We're just we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: burn this thing in the seat artificial reef like coral
Speaker 1: and wildly shoot it into get get get elon muskin
Speaker 1: here and shoot it into space like that car off
Speaker 1: it Like we can't. We can't put this in the ocean.
Speaker 1: It's been toxic. Oh gosh. So yeah, what kind of
Speaker 1: like measures did they take when they were like, oh, guys,
Speaker 1: I think we might be doing something bad that the
Speaker 1: police are noticing. Yeah, let's get down. So from from
Speaker 1: the start of the creation, if we build the wall,
Speaker 1: in January to October nineteen Brian received more than three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars and donor funds passed indirectly
Speaker 1: with the assistance of the other defendants. Um Quas used
Speaker 1: those funds to pay for his own private expenses, including,
Speaker 1: among other purposes, home renovations, payments towards the boat, a
Speaker 1: luxury XUV, a golf cart, jewelry, cosmetic surgery, personal tax payments,
Speaker 1: and credit guard debt. Got cosmetic surgery. He did problem,
Speaker 1: I mean he has he's horribly injured. Like it might
Speaker 1: not even be a vanity thing. It might be like
Speaker 1: a like an actual medical procedure because he's yeah, he's
Speaker 1: horribly horribly I'm not gonna like like he's committed crimes
Speaker 1: to get the money, but like I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it was like a vanity thing.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah that he's suddenly coming up with like
Speaker 1: a like beautiful full lips and no wrinkles on his forehead.
Speaker 1: I don't see evidence of that it's probably related to
Speaker 1: his injuries unless we like really look and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh no, nobody got an acid injection. They really, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy committed some crimes, but like, god damn,
Speaker 1: they's doubles, triples thick. Now whoever's doing his work, you
Speaker 1: know they knew what they were doing. So Moreover, in
Speaker 1: addition to Brian called Foge, the defendant, Steve Bann and
Speaker 1: Andrew battle Lotto and Timothy Shay the defendants, each received
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars and donor funds from We
Speaker 1: Build the Wall, which they each used to pay for
Speaker 1: a variety of personal expenses, including, among other things, travel, hotels,
Speaker 1: consumer goods, and personal credit card debts. In addition to
Speaker 1: the payments described above to cole Fage, with respect to Bannon,
Speaker 1: in particular, as noted above, Nonprofit One received over a
Speaker 1: million dollars from We Build the Wall, and while some
Speaker 1: of that money was used to pay Cold Foge, Bannon
Speaker 1: was used a substantial portion of those donor funds for
Speaker 1: personal uses and expenses unrelated to We Build the Wall.
Speaker 1: Um none of these payments were just closed to the public. Instead,
Speaker 1: they repeatedly lied to the public about where the money
Speaker 1: was going. Indeed, as called Foge noted the battle loaddo
Speaker 1: in a text message exchange. As far as the public knows,
Speaker 1: no one is getting paid and salaries will never be disclosed.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, we'll crime through it. These victims will have
Speaker 1: no idea of how hard we're criming. Bros. You know
Speaker 1: who's not w sing us the post office cops. They
Speaker 1: can eat a dick, those guys. And they like use
Speaker 1: like encrypted messaging apps to like I thought like that
Speaker 1: was one of the things that they thought they were
Speaker 1: getting real smart, even though they did all this other
Speaker 1: ship that can be found like you don't know, it
Speaker 1: actually doesn't just as text messages. But maybe I you'd
Speaker 1: have to say, right like I would say, you'd have
Speaker 1: to think they would at least be careful enough to
Speaker 1: use like, you know, signal or something like. They're so
Speaker 1: blatant about this. Maybe they were just fucking texting. I
Speaker 1: don't know, because when you consider like Paul Manna for
Speaker 1: it was like, how do you make PDF of my
Speaker 1: fake bank accounting? It's like, oh, boys, come on, don't
Speaker 1: evenail that ship just googling crimes and pops up with
Speaker 1: a question mark how to do fake bank account pds?
Speaker 1: Like what, Um, it's done for an ad break just
Speaker 1: a thought. Yeah, you know what also won't doesn't you
Speaker 1: know what isn't a crime? Products and services. We're back
Speaker 1: and we're talking about We Build the Wall, which was
Speaker 1: the most real thing ever created. Um, it just feels
Speaker 1: like somebody's gonna like write like some when you say
Speaker 1: we build the Wall. I just like imagine like a
Speaker 1: little song that comes on after that. Yeah, literally, yeah,
Speaker 1: it has to sound like a really terrible local business ad,
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna get a good jingle out of that. No, no. So.
Speaker 1: In or around October two thousand nineteen, Brian Cofage, Stephen Bannon,
Speaker 1: Andrew bott Alato the other defendants all learned from a
Speaker 1: financial institution that We Build the Wall might be under
Speaker 1: federal criminal investigation. The defendants thereafter it took additional steps
Speaker 1: to conceal the fraudulent scheme detailed below. For example, around
Speaker 1: that time and in reaction to the potential investigation, Cofage
Speaker 1: and Battleado began using encrypted messaging apps on their So
Speaker 1: that's when they started October all year they're like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: how are the crimes were doing going still criming all right, good,
Speaker 1: good crimes. Everybody keep criming hard, maybe under investigation. Fuck
Speaker 1: crime out with your time out. It's like time like
Speaker 1: the spice. That's as as good as I could come
Speaker 1: up with in a moment. Yeah. Again the stress sweat.
Speaker 1: You know, that's so clear. Right, you find out your
Speaker 1: under investigation, and then you switched to encrypted message and
Speaker 1: as soon as they find out, we build the walls.
Speaker 1: Website was changed to remove any mention of the promise
Speaker 1: that co Faj was not being compensated, and to add
Speaker 1: a statement that he would be paid a salary starting
Speaker 1: in January. Yeah, because so they stopped paying him secret
Speaker 1: payments and announced that he was about to start getting
Speaker 1: a salary after promising the opposite for months, for like
Speaker 1: a year, um, and just hope that that would be okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: why not? You know maybe just oh you hate to
Speaker 1: see it and you also love to see it. It's
Speaker 1: so good. It's just one of the best things that's
Speaker 1: ever happened. Yeah, I remember very happy about all this,
Speaker 1: like when it happened, wasn't didn't wasn't that like a
Speaker 1: news headline when they he announced he was getting a salary.
Speaker 1: And that's when people are like, hold the funk on,
Speaker 1: because first ever, like the sort of public per something's like,
Speaker 1: where's that fucking wall you're building. It's not there, and
Speaker 1: it was like it's a scheme. And then it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna get like a hundred grand, and people
Speaker 1: like what the funck now? Yeah, yeah, but where's the
Speaker 1: fucking wall. Yeah, it's blowing over in the wind or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I wonder, I wonder what they thought would
Speaker 1: happen with this, because they weren't building a wall. They
Speaker 1: did like a couple of sampled chunks, but like they
Speaker 1: never did anything meaningful. And their whole promise was that
Speaker 1: like we'll do it faster and cheaper than the government,
Speaker 1: so we'll be able to actually afford to do it,
Speaker 1: and they were. They just kind of like pretend it
Speaker 1: failed that they had like once certain spots built and
Speaker 1: then like every engine near and like hydrologist was like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna fucking just fall apart. You know, you
Speaker 1: didn't build it's not even built the right depth. Like
Speaker 1: none of this is done correctly. So I wonder if
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm trying to really put myself in
Speaker 1: that schemer mode, like if Okay, I'm into deep, how
Speaker 1: am I going to get my way out of it?
Speaker 1: I would probably begin some like nimby argument about how
Speaker 1: like these regulations are like stopping us while I'm slowly
Speaker 1: building some kind of like escape pod to leave to
Speaker 1: some country without an extradition treatment. Yeah, I do, I
Speaker 1: I do. Like people have compared this to the famous
Speaker 1: mon Rail episode of The Simpsons, and I do kind
Speaker 1: of feel like their plan was just a cartoon drawing
Speaker 1: of themselves flying to Acapulca with a bag of cash. Right,
Speaker 1: Is there a chance the wall could bend? Not a chance,
Speaker 1: my bigot friend, I think the cars for Kids song
Speaker 1: it's should be Yeah, good hundred walls for big It's amazing.
Speaker 1: So let's get down to the good ship. Forfeit your allecuation.
Speaker 1: Everything up until this point has been like a bizarro
Speaker 1: comedy skipped a few pages because it was all just
Speaker 1: like repeatedly restating in different ways they committed wire flowed
Speaker 1: fraud rightly, which they did um as a result of
Speaker 1: committing the offense alleged incount one of this indictment, Bryan
Speaker 1: call Fage, Stephen Bannon Andrew battle Otto and Timothy Shay
Speaker 1: that defendants shall forfeit to the United States pursuing to
Speaker 1: Title eighteen, United States Code, Section NIGHTLA, any and all property,
Speaker 1: real and personal that constitutes or is derived from proceeds
Speaker 1: traceable to the commission of said efens, including but not
Speaker 1: limited to, a sum of money in the United States
Speaker 1: currency representing the amount of proceeds traceable to the commission
Speaker 1: of said offense, and the following specific property. Um. So,
Speaker 1: it then lists a bunch of different funds contained and wow,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bank accounts they put this money into. God,
Speaker 1: I'm on page two. Um okay, So like there's like
Speaker 1: two pages of different bank accounts they threw money into.
Speaker 1: And then we get into property. So number one the
Speaker 1: real property described as a two thousand nineteen Jupiter Marine
Speaker 1: boat named war Fighter. The real property. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's the yacht that that um uh call fage got
Speaker 1: as a results of committing the offensive. Legen account too,
Speaker 1: of this indictment, the defendant show forward to the United
Speaker 1: States Andy and all property, YadA, YadA. So yeah, they
Speaker 1: gotta give up all the fucking ship that they got,
Speaker 1: um Warfighter, they committed about he loses his boat war Fighter.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's good looking boat. It is. It
Speaker 1: had four engines. Yeah, the irony was like he was
Speaker 1: sailing in that thing in the fourth of July like
Speaker 1: Trump boat parade and floor was his share was. And
Speaker 1: then he got arrested by the fucking Post Office and
Speaker 1: they're gonna take that boat. And it's very funny. There
Speaker 1: is something poetic about him in a boat like just
Speaker 1: decked out in Trump flags, the boat being purchased with funds.
Speaker 1: He griffed. It's just like what they've he fully completes
Speaker 1: the visual circle in that moment. It's so much better
Speaker 1: than I ever thought anything could be. I I I've
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of credit over the last year or
Speaker 1: so in particular and in predicting a bunch of things.
Speaker 1: Um And I can tell you honestly, never in my
Speaker 1: life did I expect Post Office arrest Steve Bannon on
Speaker 1: a yacht would be a that's not on anyone's being.
Speaker 1: Nobody called, especially not Steve Bannon. I guess the Post
Speaker 1: Office might have predicted it. Yeah, God, I so bad,
Speaker 1: you know, Like there's so many like just dark, messy
Speaker 1: dimensions about this entire administration, but like this sort of
Speaker 1: falls into like Wolf of Wall Street territory, where you
Speaker 1: just like watch these guys getting over their heads with
Speaker 1: their greed, and then I want like that second act
Speaker 1: and third act is probably so great when you start
Speaker 1: seeing it fall apart, because I would love to see
Speaker 1: a dramatics, like a dramaticized version of these fucking losers
Speaker 1: just pan nicking over the fact that their entire ship
Speaker 1: has just been exposed, and then like all these terrible
Speaker 1: superficial band aid fixes to it. Yeah, and I want
Speaker 1: to stay I was wrong a little bit earlier. Co
Speaker 1: Faje was um was was released within hours of being arrested.
Speaker 1: He's on bond at the moment, he's pled not guilty.
Speaker 1: And Bannon was released not long on after he was
Speaker 1: arrested on five million dollars a bond. His travel is
Speaker 1: restricted to New York and Washington, d C. And he
Speaker 1: can't use private boats or jets without permission. Um So
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see what actually happens here. In terms
Speaker 1: of justice, they got arrested. It seems like a pretty
Speaker 1: open and shut case to be honest. What would repeatedly
Speaker 1: bragging about it and as a rule when the FED,
Speaker 1: when any kind of federal agency does something like this,
Speaker 1: they feel like they have a pretty air tight case.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I mean when you but again, it's
Speaker 1: like it's so comedic because it's the confessions are all there,
Speaker 1: like there, you don't know how what lawyer is going
Speaker 1: to argue that they're not guilty, Like how are you
Speaker 1: going to explain the better you than me? L O
Speaker 1: L text? Like yeah, I'm sure they've got some sort
Speaker 1: of like whatever they'll try, they'll try, But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it makes me cringe because you're going in there
Speaker 1: with such like an intellectually bankrupt defense, and like I
Speaker 1: get stressed. I'm like, oh man, you're not gonna like
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you can get your way, I worm
Speaker 1: your way out of ship, but this one is a
Speaker 1: little too tough. I think, if anything, it's it's in
Speaker 1: the sentencing that we really see the lack of justice
Speaker 1: because I think what they're looking at like twenty years
Speaker 1: for each charge essentially, but really, yeah, well be surprised
Speaker 1: if it's like, you know, two years they're gonna get
Speaker 1: the aunt Becky treatment. Oh two seconds. I doubt it'll
Speaker 1: be a crazy amount of time Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, everyone seems to hate Steve Bannon a lot,
Speaker 1: and he committed a bunch of crimes and he has
Speaker 1: no more friends. So if you know, if Steve Bannon
Speaker 1: gets anything more than a year, I'm going to consider
Speaker 1: this a big win because then Steve Bannon's in a
Speaker 1: fucking prison for a while. And I hate him, um,
Speaker 1: and he sucks, And it would be awesome if he
Speaker 1: actually faced a consequence for one of the terrible things
Speaker 1: he's Steve no friends Bannon? Is that on your bingo car?
Speaker 1: Justice for Steve Bannon. I never thought. I thought he
Speaker 1: was just gonna live at the fascist castle that he
Speaker 1: was buying in Italy, um, with an army of brainwashed militants,
Speaker 1: for decades until dying of cirrhosis. I thought he's just
Speaker 1: gonna sit like in a chair and just slowly decompose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks like, um, I won't be mean, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want. I just assumed he was going to die.
Speaker 1: Um uh, the death of a successful fascist, which is
Speaker 1: again in a castle in Italy. Um. Yeah, but maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he'll go to prison and reform himself and become
Speaker 1: the new face of the Green movement. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's likely, but it would be kind of funny. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, thoughts and prayers, you know, thoughts and prayers
Speaker 1: to Steve and Brian and who these are no more friends?
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Speaker 1: You do love to hear it. And the other thing
Speaker 1: you love to do is commit wire fraud, which I
Speaker 1: have on good authority, never ends badly. So that's my
Speaker 1: advice to listeners is to go fraud frauds some wires
Speaker 1: fraud the hell out of it up. Yeah, you find
Speaker 1: some wires fraud the sons of bitches. Get it on boom,
Speaker 1: you know. Or you could like follow Robert on Twitter
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Speaker 1: and wear a face mask. Yeah, wash your hands, wear
Speaker 1: a face mask, commit a lot of wire fraud. Just
Speaker 1: get it. I can't exaggerate how good an idea it
Speaker 1: is to commit wire friend and text your friends about
Speaker 1: the wire fraud you plan to commit. Really, just get
Speaker 1: get in there, you know, send them letters to about
Speaker 1: the wirefront. I have it on good authority. The post
Speaker 1: office is not watching so and also yeah, have those
Speaker 1: letters notarized as well, so you can really just make
Speaker 1: sure all the correspondence it is fully locked in and
Speaker 1: you're not there's no miscommunication at yeah. Yeah, be really clear.
Speaker 1: Make sure whenever you're committing crimes. To outline the crime
Speaker 1: that you're committing and your knowledge that it's a crime,
Speaker 1: that's a double jeopardy. If I understand what double jeopardy is,
Speaker 1: perfect that you should be there charged. Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: I would love to be Steve Bannon, But I I
Speaker 1: will take that gig, you know what I will. I
Speaker 1: will quit podcasting if they want me to defend the
Speaker 1: representing case. Yeah, how would you do it? Like, obviously
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna lose, So would you just try
Speaker 1: some hairbrained ship or would you just be I mean
Speaker 1: obviously you got to kind of work them too. You know.
Speaker 1: I think I would take the most asset I've ever
Speaker 1: taken and just see where that leads me. You know,
Speaker 1: I've never been in a courtroom on lsd UM, but
Speaker 1: I bet I could defend two people from charges of
Speaker 1: wire fraud. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, because then yeah, when
Speaker 1: they have to be like and what have this text message?
Speaker 1: Can you read this one? Mr Bannon? I might turn
Speaker 1: out to be like that guy who pitched a no
Speaker 1: hitter on a head for Yeah, like that, but defending
Speaker 1: people against charges of blatant wire fraud? Oh yes, that
Speaker 1: is one of the great tales of doc Ellis's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: doc Ellis on so much acid. Pitch to Hitter, I
Speaker 1: will be the doc Ellis of fascists committing wire fraud
Speaker 1: in the court of law. That'll be Act three or
Speaker 1: four of my career. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, all right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Robert kind of lost himself in those later years, but
Speaker 1: he just kept taking acid and defending Nazis from wire fraud.
Speaker 1: But in a way he was the He was the
Speaker 1: greatest giver of justice because every single person got the
Speaker 1: maximum sentence based off his hair brained defenses, and people
Speaker 1: to this day don't know why these people agreed to
Speaker 1: have him defend them. Yeah. It really was a baffling
Speaker 1: choice all around. Yeah, alright, well the episodes over go
Speaker 1: be with Jesus, Oh yeah, or z h h h