WEBVTT - Why Steve Bannon Got Arrested

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<v Speaker 1>M hm, pods of the cast ship. Um, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that was just sounds. That was just mouth Sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a great album by Neil Sister Riga who you should

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<v Speaker 1>which you should check out. This is Robert Evans introducing

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<v Speaker 1>his podcast Behind the Bastards very poorly. Uh, Miles, please

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<v Speaker 1>come in and save me from Hello, Bobby, good to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. Miles Gray, coming in alive and direct from

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<v Speaker 1>the city of assholes, I mean angels. Miles. When you

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<v Speaker 1>when you did your podcast training, which day did they

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<v Speaker 1>teach you how to do something besides grunt incoherently while

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<v Speaker 1>introducing a podcast, I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not look full disclosure. I faked all my podcast education.

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<v Speaker 1>See you an unlicensed podcaster? I mean, look, god damn it,

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did. I just had a mic and

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<v Speaker 1>someone's like, hey, you're a guy you podcast. I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is how it works. That is just how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a guy, you you're given a podcast. In

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<v Speaker 1>the early days and they weren't even given It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of like like zombies with Mike's being

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<v Speaker 1>like have this podcast. You're now endorsed by this company

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<v Speaker 1>that mails you things that you used to buy from

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<v Speaker 1>the CVS right yeah. Podcast. Speaking of grifts, Miles, do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember that Build the Wall We the people will

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<v Speaker 1>Build the Wall go fund me that raised million dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>How could I forget something that on its face was

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<v Speaker 1>like immediately visible that this was scan It was such

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful So we did an episode about this, which

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<v Speaker 1>you can check out. Katie and Cody were the guests

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<v Speaker 1>on that one. I think, um and I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>them anymore because I work with them on another podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>so like them, we're angry at each other. Now now

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<v Speaker 1>let's they're just it's they were they're podcasting too much. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So we we talked about them, and basically the gist

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<v Speaker 1>of it is that this guy, Brian cole Fage, who

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<v Speaker 1>was like he likes to brand himself as the most

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<v Speaker 1>severely injured airman in the U S air man in Iraq,

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<v Speaker 1>which might be true. I mean, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you like measured that, but he was like horrifically wounded.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on his way to the gym on a

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<v Speaker 1>base in the Green Zone when a mortar landed right

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<v Speaker 1>next to him and he lost his legs and like

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<v Speaker 1>part of an arm like that, he got really fucked up, um,

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<v Speaker 1>like about as badly as you can without dying. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So he came back home and he started like a

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<v Speaker 1>fake news empire on Facebook with like all these right

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<v Speaker 1>wing news websites, and he's making quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>money before Facebook shut his whole network down because it

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<v Speaker 1>was like he was breaking their terms of service a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch um with like a bunch of coordinated and authentic

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<v Speaker 1>activity and stuff, oh like all the yeah, yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>they shut him down and when his money's biggott got

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<v Speaker 1>turned off and there's like articles from people who worked

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<v Speaker 1>at them at the time he said that guy has

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible temper. He could get like violent and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>at the drop of a hat. He's he's just a

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<v Speaker 1>very unpleasant person. Um. Which you know, I'm sure some

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<v Speaker 1>of that's horrific trauma, but it doesn't excuse grifting thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of people, which is what he did next. So he

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<v Speaker 1>created a go fund me for we the People will

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<v Speaker 1>Build the Wall. There's now confirmed evidence that they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking with members of the Trump administration. They had like

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<v Speaker 1>meetings with them. There was talk of like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to take the funds that they got

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<v Speaker 1>and roll it over or like you know, there was

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<v Speaker 1>there was official correspondence that they had with members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump campaign and likes or the Trump team. And

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as like this thing took off, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty much immediately making raising millions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other famous right wing grifters got on board,

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<v Speaker 1>including our old buddies Steve Bannon. Eric Prince was on

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<v Speaker 1>the board of the foundation they set up to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the money. So like basically when it became clear that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so the initial idea was like, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to raise money to give to the government so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can build this wall because the damn Libs won't

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<v Speaker 1>give it to us. Yeah, and that it became clear

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<v Speaker 1>that like that's not really how the government works, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just you can't just go fund me. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>a border wall that would be number one involved like

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<v Speaker 1>building on massive amounts of private land and like all

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<v Speaker 1>of this ship like you just it's not a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that gets to be done. Um. So they changed the

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<v Speaker 1>focus of it to like we're going to actually build

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<v Speaker 1>the wall. Um. And they they you know, because they

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<v Speaker 1>were altering sort of the nature of what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Go fund Me allowed people to kind of opt in

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<v Speaker 1>to continue having their money roll over into the new

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<v Speaker 1>thing that they were doing, and most people who donated

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to do it. There's a bunch of shady stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and like their explanation of what they were doing, including

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<v Speaker 1>the point that like the money will be used either

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<v Speaker 1>to actually construct the wall or to engage in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lobbying or whatever that will help to construct the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's like a bunch of stuff where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're going to became very clear, like you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to find ways to put this in the pockets of

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<v Speaker 1>the very famous right wing people who have all leapt

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<v Speaker 1>onto this program, including Steve Bannon and Eric Prince. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the things they repeatedly stated when

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<v Speaker 1>this all happened is that Brian Colefaje, who was founder

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<v Speaker 1>and the face of the thing, was not going to

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<v Speaker 1>receive any money. UM, would not be paid, wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to make any a dime off of this. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, doing it out of the goodness of

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<v Speaker 1>his heart. UM. And then uh, last week, Uh, all

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys got arrested UM, which is the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's ever happened that Steve Bannon has now for

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<v Speaker 1>more than a week been incarcerated. Um, it just it

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<v Speaker 1>just slaps unbelievably hard. The thing with that though, like

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<v Speaker 1>listening to these people, knowing Eric Prince is on that board, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he should know better than you, should know better than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that like building like sical infrastructure on like in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States is probably a long shot, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>you have a better chance crowdfunding a private air force.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like then being like, yeah, we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>build chunks of border wall because you know, fucking America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little disappointed in Eric, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he should he knows, out of anyone, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pull some wildly illegal kind of stuff where you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take the place of the government, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>start up, you gotta you gotta be a little more surgical. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but he doesn't, like he's he he's committed

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<v Speaker 1>so many more blatant crimes to this, and he always

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<v Speaker 1>gets away with it because he's a billionaire. Um that said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was super involved with this. Um

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<v Speaker 1>like this was like legitimized side piece for him. Yeah yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but it is. It is. So it's turned

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<v Speaker 1>into this amazing story where like again like the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Bannon's got arrested as a result of this, there's

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of him now fucking in handcuffs and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best things that's ever happened. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was the best thing about it is that it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the Postal Services Investigative Unit, which is the first

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<v Speaker 1>federal law enforcement agency we all learned when they arrested

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Bannon. Um damn. So I guess, I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say maybe not all cops are bad, like we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>got like I'm willing to make an exception for the

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<v Speaker 1>post Office cops given what happened recently exactly. And then

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, like even with the post Office under fire,

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<v Speaker 1>like if we're going to back the blue, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the Postal Service, Yeah, it's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>These are the ones I'm I'm I'm I'm a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent supportive of arresting Steve Bannon on a yacht. Cut

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<v Speaker 1>to some like wild clip of like postal like postal

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<v Speaker 1>police brutality, and you're like, what even y'all, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were the mail cops. No, that's they actually committed

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<v Speaker 1>genocide against all these different tribes. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that the post Office committed genocide, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, it wouldn't be the most surprising thing

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<v Speaker 1>in American history. Um, but that I let's not make

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<v Speaker 1>random allegations of genocide against the Postal Service. Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let We've got the charging document, which is the it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically like a podcast episode written by a United States

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<v Speaker 1>district court, in this case, the Southern District of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>UM to summarize the government's case against all of the

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<v Speaker 1>crime doer spied. The we the people will build the

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<v Speaker 1>wall con um and I'm just gonna start reading it

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Miles will skim some parts of it when

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<v Speaker 1>it gets boring, but like, in fact, I'm just gonna read.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna get me. I'm like because I love

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you know that these cases, especially in this Trump era,

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<v Speaker 1>where just the like legal description of your like these amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they think any of this was going to

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<v Speaker 1>work or they weren't going to get caught? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that's more amazing to me is that they

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<v Speaker 1>did get caught. Like clearly, whatever else is going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, Steve Bannon and Brian cole Fage did

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<v Speaker 1>not have the the cloud they thought they had, because

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<v Speaker 1>they thought they had the cloud that like Roger Stone has,

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<v Speaker 1>where we can commit blatant crimes and we will get

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<v Speaker 1>forgiven for it um or will they'll be too scared

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<v Speaker 1>of us to go after us. And it just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>true for them. And I don't know why entirely, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful. Yeah, maybe it was that it was too blatant.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was that, you know, they didn't kiss the

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<v Speaker 1>right asses. I don't know what the the explanation is,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's let's get into it. The grand jury charges

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<v Speaker 1>one Brian Colfage, Stephen Bannon, Andrew Battle Laddo, and Timothy Shay.

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<v Speaker 1>The defendants and others orchestrated a scheme to defraud hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of donors, including donors in the Southern District

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, in connection with an online crowdfunding campaign

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately known as We Build the Wall that raised more

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty five million dollars to build a wall along

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<v Speaker 1>the southern border of the United States to induce donors

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<v Speaker 1>to donate to the campaign. Colfage and Bannon, each of whom,

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<v Speaker 1>as detailed here in exerted significant control over We Build

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall, repeatedly and falsely assured the public that Colfage

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<v Speaker 1>would quote not take a penny and salary or compensation,

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<v Speaker 1>and that quote one percent of the funds raised will

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<v Speaker 1>be used in the execution of our mission and purpose, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as Bannon publicly stated, we're a volunteer organization. These representations

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<v Speaker 1>were false in truth. Brian cole Fage, Stephen Bannon, Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>battle Otto, and Timothy Shay, the defendants, collectively received hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of dollars and donor funds from We Buld

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall, which they each used in a manner inconsistent

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<v Speaker 1>with the organization's public representations. In particular, call Fas covertly

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<v Speaker 1>took more than three hundred fifty thousand dollars and funds

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<v Speaker 1>that had been donated to we Buld the Wall for

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<v Speaker 1>his personal use. Well, Bannon, through a nonprofit organization under

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<v Speaker 1>his control, Nonprofit One, received over a million dollars from

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<v Speaker 1>We Build the Wall, which Bannon used to, among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>secretly pay coal fag and to cover hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars and Bannons personal expenses. Dude was his thing

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<v Speaker 1>on nonprofit. Oh, that was just in the charging documents.

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<v Speaker 1>It's non problem I thought of, which makes sense because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a legal document. I was hoping that Steve bann

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<v Speaker 1>is like such a lazy Skimer, that he's like a funk.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta put a nonprofit together to fucking be able

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<v Speaker 1>to move this money around. I call it a nonprofit one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like my idea. I've always wanted to create an

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<v Speaker 1>LLC for a variety of reasons and call it unlimited

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<v Speaker 1>liability because there's something in my brain that enjoys the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of unlimited liability. A limited liability corporation funlimited liability.

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<v Speaker 1>To conceal the payments to co Fage from We Build

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall call Fage, Bannon, bat Lato, and Shade devised

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<v Speaker 1>a scheme to route these payments from We Build the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall to co Fage indirectly through a nonprofit and a

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<v Speaker 1>shell company under Shay's control, among other avenues. They did

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<v Speaker 1>so by using fake invoices and sham vendor arrangements, among

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<v Speaker 1>other ways, to ensure as co Fage noted in a

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<v Speaker 1>text message to batt Alato that his pay arrangement remained

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<v Speaker 1>confidential and kept on a need to know basis. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>committing crimes and texting about it, Yeah, what a hallmark

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<v Speaker 1>of of this group of people, just like yeah, yeah this,

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<v Speaker 1>we make our own receipts here. I have. I know

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<v Speaker 1>so many people that like, because of the protests, like

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<v Speaker 1>won't text message about the shield materials that they're like

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<v Speaker 1>gathering so that people can build like defensive devices to

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<v Speaker 1>protect themselves from impact weapons. Like they're paranoid about like

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<v Speaker 1>gathering fucking uh like rubber and and foam inserts and stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And these guys are just like, yeah, I gotta go

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<v Speaker 1>steal a million dollars, you guys, Like here's that we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it right, And also use this fake vendor like

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<v Speaker 1>like weet up to illegally funnel money through to do

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<v Speaker 1>this illegal thing that we're all doing together. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>all down for the illegal crimes that we're committing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so easy to be a conservative. We are defrauding the

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<v Speaker 1>American people with our build a wall scheme. Please like,

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<v Speaker 1>please use the tap back in your messages app and

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<v Speaker 1>your iPhone to confirm your that you were culpable. I

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<v Speaker 1>know people who live in paranoia because they're getting followed

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of bringing water every night to two

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrations and like this ship nonsense, fucking hell. On or

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<v Speaker 1>around December seventeen, two thou eighteen, Brian call Fage, the defendant,

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<v Speaker 1>with the assistance of others, launched a fundraising campaign originally

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<v Speaker 1>called We the People Build the Wall on a crowdfunding website.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowdfunding websites that's referred to in the document, it's

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<v Speaker 1>go fund me. According to statements on the web page

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<v Speaker 1>for we the People Build the Wall on the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>funding website, it's just so very funny. It just looks

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<v Speaker 1>very silly, and you can't you can't say that without laughing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd funding website, the crowd Like come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like, yeah, this is like when a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>movie uses some sort of fake Google thing, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Researcher or whatever. It's like, come on, guy, we know

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<v Speaker 1>it's Google. The campaign was raising funds to donate to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States federal government for construction of a wall

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<v Speaker 1>at the southern border of the United States. The web

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<v Speaker 1>page also stated that your donations would be given to

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<v Speaker 1>the government for the construction of a wall, and that

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<v Speaker 1>if the campaign could not attain its goal, it would

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<v Speaker 1>refund every single penny. The We the People Build the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall campaign was an immediate fundraising success. Within the first week,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian cole Fage, the defendant, with the assistance of Timothy Shay,

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<v Speaker 1>the Defendant, raised approximately seventeen million dollars. Despite its early success,

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign also drew scrutiny, including questions about call flag

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<v Speaker 1>is background and the campaign's planned to give the money

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<v Speaker 1>raised to the federal government. Based on those concerns, In

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<v Speaker 1>or around December two thousand eighteen, go fund Me, which

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<v Speaker 1>they crowdfunding website, suspended the campaign, which by that point

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<v Speaker 1>had raised more than twenty million dollars, and warned Brian

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<v Speaker 1>call Fage, the defendant, that unless he identified a legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit organization into which these funds could be transferred, the

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<v Speaker 1>crowdfunding website would return the funds. At around the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian cole Fage, that defendant, involved Stephen Bannon and Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>battle Lotto, the defendants and the leadership of the campaign. Bannon,

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<v Speaker 1>a political strategist and former media executive and Battle Lotto,

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<v Speaker 1>an entrepreneur and venture capitalist. We're already working together on

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit one, which was a separate Section five oh one

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<v Speaker 1>C four organization founded by Bannon with the stated purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of promoting economic nationalism and American sovereignty. Fascist. We can

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<v Speaker 1>go that one. Fascism, economic nationalism, fascist, and he uses

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<v Speaker 1>his fun fancy fascist nonprofit to funnel donations into illegally,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just very on brand. Within days of becoming involved,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Bannon and Andrew battleaddo that defendants took significant control

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<v Speaker 1>of the fundraising campaigns, organization, and day to day activities.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically they took They immediately took control of We

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<v Speaker 1>the People Will Build the Wall. Um. And by like

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<v Speaker 1>late December two thousand eighteen, um, they were basically in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>And they created a new five O one C four

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<v Speaker 1>called We Build the Wall, Inc. And they proposed that

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<v Speaker 1>the money you know, would be transferred there um and

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<v Speaker 1>the nonprofit we build yeah, yeah, nonprofit to build to

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<v Speaker 1>to finance private construction of a wall along the southern border. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, And they gave a bunch of assurances to

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<v Speaker 1>go fund me uh that like this was all legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>and the money would all go to act like to this,

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<v Speaker 1>to this new five of one C four they'd founded

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<v Speaker 1>UH in order to induce UH go fund me to

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<v Speaker 1>release the donor funds. UH. These insurances include I'm quoting again.

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<v Speaker 1>These assurances included, among other things, written by laws with

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<v Speaker 1>conflict of interest provisions and compensation restrictions precluding insiders like

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<v Speaker 1>call Fage, among others, from inappropriately misusing donor funds. And

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<v Speaker 1>I promise that call Fage will take no salary and

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<v Speaker 1>will personally not take a penny of compensation from these donations.

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<v Speaker 1>Call Fage, Bannon and Battlelato also agreed that donors would

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<v Speaker 1>have to opt in too, having their contribution redirected from

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<v Speaker 1>the crowdfunding website to we build the wall. So they

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<v Speaker 1>they hung themselves here. They like, they made a legal

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<v Speaker 1>document promising that in no way would among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>call Fage get any money from this, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to get the money, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>assumed it would be fine because so many other crimes

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<v Speaker 1>that these people and their friends committed were fine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like like how scumbag men think to like with sex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, what I gotta say to have sex,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and after that may not mean it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so just shortsighted about my own gratification. I will

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<v Speaker 1>deceive and lie just to get there without any thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of like where that goes after the fact. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just love that, like this scam is so fucking American,

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<v Speaker 1>and that like your weaponizing like the fear of black

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<v Speaker 1>and brown people to then enrich yourself, and like when

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<v Speaker 1>really you could give a fuck about any of it

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<v Speaker 1>aside from purely as being like, oh this is great

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<v Speaker 1>as a great group of just dummies to just rintse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's evidence of what those of us who are

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<v Speaker 1>are vaguely aware of like objective reality, um, have known

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, which is that like almost none

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<v Speaker 1>of these fascists, with the exception of really like Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Miller and a couple others, almost none of them believe

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<v Speaker 1>in what they're saying. It's just the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>get what they want, which is money and power. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if these guys, if their primary concern was a legal immigration,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have tried to use they would have used

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<v Speaker 1>this money to in some way fuck over migrants, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like whether or not it was the wall, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they would have done this huge amount of money, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would have gotten nothing but praise from the donors,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it wasn't a wall, even it was some

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<v Speaker 1>other way of hurting these people. Um, But they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even really care about hurting those people. They just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to steal. And it's awesome. It's so good that in

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<v Speaker 1>this one rare instance, they faced consequences. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you hate to see it and you love to see it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's yeah, it's so good. It's so audacious.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I don't know what. Ever, every time, like

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<v Speaker 1>even when whenever I come on this show, it's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always like, damn, the audacity of these But that really

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<v Speaker 1>is the true DNA of a true historical piece of ship. Bastard,

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<v Speaker 1>is you really you have us. You're just all about

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and there's absolutely zero consideration for anything aside for

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<v Speaker 1>your own it's like just your very own personal lived experience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it works for them usually because it's an effective

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<v Speaker 1>strategy in winning in our system, is to only give

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<v Speaker 1>a shit about yourself and be like sociopathically dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but your own enrichment, right, Like that works in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways, except for occasionally you get arrested

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<v Speaker 1>on a yacht by the post Office. Got to be

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<v Speaker 1>like you no way, I wonder if you're pissed, You're like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it would be at least like the FEDS or

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<v Speaker 1>something like the bed FEDS. It's did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>wear that hat to I hope they did. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they're They're exactly the same as a normal swat team,

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<v Speaker 1>but with the hats just and not even the tach gear,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they don't even have weapons. They're just like very

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<v Speaker 1>coordinated group of mail carriers that are like or if

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<v Speaker 1>we can do this without what would I wouldn't funk

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<v Speaker 1>with a group of mail delivery I mean essentially, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that work for the postal service too. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually dealing with people with some experience in the

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<v Speaker 1>military as well. So yeah, so man uh. Beginning in

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<v Speaker 1>January too, that and nineteen, the defendants caused we Build

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall to mislead donors, promising them repeatedly that a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of the funds would be used for construction

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<v Speaker 1>of a wall, and that call Fage in particular, would

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<v Speaker 1>take no salary or compensation, and obviously contrary to this,

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<v Speaker 1>they were immediately misappropriating hundreds of thousands of dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>funds for their own benefit. Beginning on around January eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>to that's and nineteen, and consistent with the insurances provided

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<v Speaker 1>to the crowdfunding website, we Build the Wall announced that

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<v Speaker 1>it had changed its mission to the private construction of

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<v Speaker 1>a wall and that donors needed to opt in. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and that worked out. Um. And it seemed like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the document is alleging that this worked because

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<v Speaker 1>of their promise that a hundred percent of the funds

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<v Speaker 1>raised would be used towards the construction of a wall

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<v Speaker 1>and that not a penny would be used to compensate colvage.

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<v Speaker 1>They repeatedly made these preperation, like they're standing basically over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again. They couldn't stop making these promises. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're making these promises is why so many people willing

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<v Speaker 1>to like donate the money. Um. And it's why it's

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<v Speaker 1>so easy for us to prove that they repeatedly broke

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<v Speaker 1>the broke the law. Yeah, I'm sure like the comments

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<v Speaker 1>of the Trump family helped too, because I remember, like

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<v Speaker 1>don J was like, look at you, look at this

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<v Speaker 1>man like this is an example of American enterprise or

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<v Speaker 1>some ship and like the whole he's a hero. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna there's doing it better, faster and cheaper than

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. Like yeah, definitely cheaper and ship than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had to choose between the government spending hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of millions of dollars on incomplete sections of wall that

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<v Speaker 1>are easily breached or dollars on nothing, I would I

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<v Speaker 1>will choose the nothing also because I prefer there not

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<v Speaker 1>be any wall on the southern border or um. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, if we could just spend twenty five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year and have it go to right wing

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<v Speaker 1>grifters and have an open border on the south, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I would make that compromise. That's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's something I'm willing to to get on board with,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Like, dude, just take your money and off,

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<v Speaker 1>just take your money and like stop sucking with these people.

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<v Speaker 1>So just you know, we just printed a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>that ship. We don't know what how much it's really worth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>U so call fas posted messages on social media that

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<v Speaker 1>included representations such as we promised a hundred percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the funds raised only go to border wall construction. All

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<v Speaker 1>money donated to We Build the Wall goes directly to

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<v Speaker 1>wall to wall, not anyone's pocket. I'm taking nothing zero.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, ko Fasch went so far as to send

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<v Speaker 1>massy emails to his donors asking the purchase coffee from

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<v Speaker 1>his unrelated business, telling donors that the coffee company was

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<v Speaker 1>the only way he keeps his family fed in a

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<v Speaker 1>roof over their head. Because Foch was taking no compensation

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<v Speaker 1>from We Build the Wall, couldn't stop double dipping. Like

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<v Speaker 1>none of them have any sort of self control. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't fucking double dip. It's h hey that then again,

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<v Speaker 1>even when you add the layers of just balls to this,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, dude, I'm fucking stealing from you, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm also going to have my shitty coffee company

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<v Speaker 1>and built you for more cash from there. My hat's

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<v Speaker 1>off to him. It's start. You know who doesn't sponsor

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<v Speaker 1>this show, That shitty coffee company. But you know who

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<v Speaker 1>does sponsor this show, Oh the good people at Raytheon, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Raytheon Miles. You know what's better than a border wall

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<v Speaker 1>for stopping migrants from crossing the border. Oh? Yeah, predator drones.

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<v Speaker 1>Predator drones armed with the new r X nine knife missile. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the knife missile allows you to knife people from the

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<v Speaker 1>sky using the power of the federal government. And which

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<v Speaker 1>is and gravity less of a factor, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>night the beautiful. The beauty of Raytheon technology is that

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<v Speaker 1>it functions equally where well in a zero G environment,

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<v Speaker 1>so that when in the inevitable future we have Moon

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<v Speaker 1>refugees will be able to shoot them with knife missiles

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<v Speaker 1>two miles. That's the promise of Raytheon. Actually, you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong. It's Gray Theon. Let's roll some ads. We're back,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So yeah. Again. It goes on for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>for like another page or so about how many different

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<v Speaker 1>ways he promised in public, in in a binding legal manner,

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<v Speaker 1>that he would take no compensation from this and how

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<v Speaker 1>often all of the defendants, including Steve Bannon, signed off

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<v Speaker 1>in one way or another and promoted the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he would take no like. All of this seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be resting on the fact that Brian cole Fage specifically

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<v Speaker 1>got money from this um and none of them they

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<v Speaker 1>just no one thought anyone would notice anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I it's I can't get my head around it, because

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<v Speaker 1>do you think because like they were just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>being like, if we hide behind this person whose body

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<v Speaker 1>was mangled in war, and that will sort of get

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<v Speaker 1>like sort of give him this position where you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>dare question their patriotism like in that like they were

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<v Speaker 1>also sort of like getting really hyped up on that

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<v Speaker 1>idea too, for like the whole sort of grift of

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Yeah, I think they figured that, like they

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<v Speaker 1>could that nobody on the right and nobody in the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration would ever allow anything bad to happen to

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<v Speaker 1>cole Flage because he's but like and it's the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We'll see how this situation in Kenosha

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<v Speaker 1>with the mass shooter goes. But like the Trump campaign's

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<v Speaker 1>initial thing was to be like, oh, he's not affiliated

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<v Speaker 1>with us in any way, we support with law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>did um interesting and charging him with murder? Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see because obviously there's folks in there right that

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<v Speaker 1>want to like adopt that kid as a mascot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the Trump I think he's actually speaking

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<v Speaker 1>at the RNCA. I don't actually know like what Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>They all are gonna wind up doing about this. But

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<v Speaker 1>like the initial thing they did was what their actual

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<v Speaker 1>initial reaction is, which is, oh, this person's a liability.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jettison them immediately. Maybe they'll decide against that, but

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like that's what they've done with cole Fag. Like they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't they haven't made any sort of a stink about

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the arrest of Cool Fager Band, and they've just been like, yep,

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:52.919
<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't have sucked up and broken the law. We

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<v Speaker 1>support law enforce. But because like, no, they don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a shit about you. Their their their hearts must be

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<v Speaker 1>breaking right now. Yeah, it's like what the funk Steve

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<v Speaker 1>you said would be fine? So let's go on to

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 1>just how fucking blatant this is. So, the document continues

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<v Speaker 1>to note. In developing the strategy of emphasizing to donors

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<v Speaker 1>that co Fage would not be paid a dime, Bannon

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<v Speaker 1>and battle Loado, in a text message exchange, discussed how

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<v Speaker 1>that message would help drive fundraising and options by prior

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<v Speaker 1>donors because it would, as bat Alato stated, become the

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<v Speaker 1>most talked about media narrative ever since it removes all

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>self interest taint and gives Brian Colfage sainthood. For that reason,

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<v Speaker 1>Battlato insisted that the statement that Cofage will not take

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<v Speaker 1>a penny of compensation be included in the email too.

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>We build the walls donors about the opt in process,

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<v Speaker 1>explaining in an email that his statement was a material

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 1>item two donors. Again, let us all state clearly in

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.439
<v Speaker 1>text messages, how like that we are committing a crime,

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that we are making legally binding promises that we intend

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<v Speaker 1>to break. Let's just all talk about that, very clear

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>documents like, don't even use the finesse of like voice

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>messages back and forth, so kind of temporary transmission whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, just cement it all there. They made it

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<v Speaker 1>really easy for the Postal Investigative Service. What are they

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>technically called U S p I S or something, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Okay, YAHOUTFIC cops the only cops that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supportive of until somebody tells me about the horrible

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>things that they've done, I'm sure, and then we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>another episode and the police cops. All I know is

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that they arrest fascists on yachts. I speak for all

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<v Speaker 1>of your listeners. Can you stop? Can you stop predicting things?

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to choose for a moment to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a law enforcement agency who just who just arrests

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>yacht fascists. I want to believe in something, and I'm

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>choosing to believe in this for the moment. Yes, I

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:51.959
<v Speaker 1>mean it should stop footing horrible things about everything and

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>then it happening, like all of us would be like

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>super appreciative if you could like predict something good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to predict that the only other thing the

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<v Speaker 1>Post Office cops do is arrest people who will legally

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<v Speaker 1>mail kittens. They're just that they're just out there protecting

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>kittens and arresting fascists. I've decided to believe this and

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>making like some of the best like sort of small

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>batch artisanal ice cream you've ever tasted. Yeah, they make

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>ice cream for some reason too, um, and it's it's

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>apparently great. So yeah, that's a that's a world I

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>want to so. Moreover, the thing goes on to note, uh,

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the defendants conveyed that others in the leadership we Build

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<v Speaker 1>Wall and its advisory board, which Bannon shared, would not

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<v Speaker 1>be compensated. For example, called fag wrote on social media,

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was pretty clear. I made a promise

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<v Speaker 1>that I would never take a penny. A hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>of fundraising through donations will only go towards the walls

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>percent right, board won't see any of that money. So

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<v Speaker 1>they just kept promising that everything they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>do was Yeah, it's cut to their texture. They're like,

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent means fucking maybe five percent. Board will see

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>as much of that money as they want. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what do we tell him? This next part's heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>So this goes into like how many of the donors

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>believed what he was saying. Donors took notice of this

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>coronarative and told Brian call Fage, the defendants, and others

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<v Speaker 1>working for We Build the Wall that it mattered to them.

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Some of those donors were wrote directly to call Fage

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<v Speaker 1>that they did not have a lot of money and

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>were skeptical about online fundraising campaigns, but they were giving

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>what they could because they trusted Colfage would keep his

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>word about how their donations would be spent. Call Flage

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<v Speaker 1>also wrote to prospective donors who raised concerns and sharing

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<v Speaker 1>the donors in private messages that he was not being

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>compensated these false assurances successfully induced donors to give money

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<v Speaker 1>to We Build the Wall and opt in to have

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>their prior donations transferred to We Build the Walls new

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>nonprofit entity. Of the original twenty million raised from hundreds

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>of thousands of donors, most of the donors agreeded to

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>opt in, so that I didn't realize. But the fact

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>that they even have that that like no, no, individual

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>donors who didn't have much money personally reached out to

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Brian with their concerns and he lied to these people

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<v Speaker 1>to their phases is It's so sweet. It's so perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so I mean, it's so Trump University too, you know,

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>where people are like you know there, it's like their

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>last shot. This is my dialysis money. Yeah, and in

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>this case it's like I want to brutalize the brown

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>people something. Yeah, I know. But it's just so funny

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that like even then, right, they're so committed to this

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, fear of a black and brown America

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<v Speaker 1>that they're just sort of like you know, giving their

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>last material like bit of like wealth they have to

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>this stupid mirrage of racism. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's one of those things like people I I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people ask why I don't do more crowdfunding stuff,

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and it is because like when you do crowdfunding stuff,

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you get donations from people who will make statements like that, like, hey,

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe in what you're doing. I don't have much money,

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like I felt like a piece of

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>ship every time that's happened. So I would rather take

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I would rather, you know, be paid by advertisers then

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<v Speaker 1>than yes, someone give. Yeah, I don't. I just don't

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>want to. I don't want to. I don't want that

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>on my fucking conscience. I don't want to. Like, oh,

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and now I'm spending the money, um, you know on

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>grub Hub tonight or whatever or like izza, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh funk, this was this, Like I I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to co It's just no, I'm I will. I will

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>sell products and services. Yeah exactly. And that's like that's

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<v Speaker 1>my line. I'm not saying it's immoral to crowdfund. I

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>think it's fine. A lot of my friends make their

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>living that way. It's just like it fucked me up. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll probably do something like it again, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>again repeatedly begged people please don't donate money if you

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have money, like it's not important to my rich

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>friends only. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, so um. Despite these

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>repeated assurance Okay, so this is yeah. Despite these repeated assurances,

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<v Speaker 1>the public narrative, correct deliberately crafted by the defendants and others,

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>was false. In fact, although We the Wall spent money

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<v Speaker 1>on the construction of a border wall, hundreds of thousands

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>of dollars were siphoned out if We Build the Wall

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>for the private use and benefit of the defendants. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>despite co Fage's numerous public statements that he was not

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>taking his salary or getting a penny in compensation, within

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>days of launching We Build the Wall, call Fage, working

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>primarily with Bannon and battle Oto, reached a secret agreement

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>whereby call Fag should be covertly paid a hundred thousand

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>dollars up front and then twenty thousand dollars a month.

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Because that arrangement was directly contrary to the defendants repeated

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>public representations, the defendants and other scheme to pass these

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>payments to Cofage indirectly through third parties, including entities under

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.479
<v Speaker 1>the control of Bannon and Shay um so, yeah, they

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>this is the stuff that we, you know, we talked about.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Bannon made it clear in a text message to battle

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<v Speaker 1>Lotto that there would be no deals I don't approve

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<v Speaker 1>and directed that co Fage be paid indirectly through Nonprofit

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>one in an attempt to conceal the payments from the public,

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<v Speaker 1>notwithstanding the fact that co Fage did no work for

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit one and that the payments from nonprofit one to

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>call Fage would be funded by build we build the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so yeah, there's text messages between Bannon and Battlelado

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about what fasch is salary would be. Um he

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<v Speaker 1>Bannon directs the wiring of money illegally from the campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh to this. Yeah, Like they've got Bannon dead to

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>fucking rights. It sounds like he's he's discussing, here are

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the crimes we will commit. These are crimes because we

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>have like we have to keep these crimes secret because

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>they were legal. Here's how I'm going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have him personally like doing the wire

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<v Speaker 1>payments and stuff. That's amazing. Oh god, this next part

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>when co fag later noted in a text message to

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>battle Loado that at least in part as a result

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>of these pass through payments, we build the wall would

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>have to disclose substantial payments to one on tax forms.

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<v Speaker 1>Battle Latta replied, better you than me l O l

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:56.719
<v Speaker 1>L stupid pieces of ship. Yeah, lawfully officially, I don't know,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Like what did you just that a whole cent? I

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>mean wow, at every turn, like you had to be

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>like wink wink, like it almost could have been that,

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? I seal the payments ca

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Fag received from nonprofit one co Fage instructed Battle a

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of that the payments should be made to call

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Fag's spouse and that nonprofit one significant and nonprofit one

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 1>subsequently issued a form falsely stating that it had paid

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>ca spouse for media, so that just hey, you know

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>what we should do is falsify some government documents. I

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>paid you for media. Okay, now if they ask what happened,

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>was you held you took some photos of me for Instagram? Yeah?

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Fucking incredible, Like there was a lot of like those

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>like fake gass vendors. Was always like vague, right, like

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>media like social media or some ship yeah for media,

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>like he sucking assholes thereafter beginning in or around April

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen and to further conceal payments if We Build the

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Wall funds to Bryan co Fage that defended his secret

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>monthly salary of approximately twenty was passed indirectly through the

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>third party entities that were purported vendors for We Build

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the Wall, including one under the control of Timothy Shay,

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>the defendant, Starting in around March two thousand nineteen, Shay,

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>who had been involved in early operations for the predecessor

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>campaign to Weeld the Wall and was familiar with its

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>repeated promises, proposed in a text message exchange with co

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Faje paying co Fag and himself out of a veiled

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>shell corporation to conceal the source in nature of the payments.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Shay suggested that to conceal transactions where, for instant instance,

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>six hundred thousand dollars comes in and he transfers three

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>to cole Fage, they could create companies that hired co

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Fash and Shafe whose service like consulting to further conceal

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the secret arrangement. Co Fasch told Shay in an email

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>that they could falsely describe the payments from the new

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>shell entity to cole Fage as for social media, love it,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>love it. It's just I mean, because yeah, those forms

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 1>that it just really feels like when you're like being

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>lazy and trying to do your tax and you're like,

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, yeah that business, internet, social media, sure,

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's just my salary. Yep, it's it's the best.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>That's when like at one point too, right, didn't they

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>like kind of wise up that, like they were kind

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of being a sloppy with it, Because I feel like

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember at the beginning of this year to that Yeah, okay,

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Um. Yeah. The memo lines on these payments,

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>yeah sir again. On or around May nineteen, Shell Company

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>one received a thirty thousand dollar wire from Rebuild the Wall.

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh then it got you know, paid twenty thousand to

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>cold Fage. The memo lines on these payments falsely stated

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that they were for social media accounts and pages, when

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>neither coal Fage nor anyone else had done such work

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>for Shell Have them at least do fake work like

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>putting the make on the fucking Donald Trump sub bred

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to get you some fucking memes, some ship posts or something. Yeah. Moreover,

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>additional twenty dollar payments are made a co fage and

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>funded with money from we Build the Wall, uh to.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>These payments were made in subsequent months until at least

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>October two, thou nineteen, when US discussed below the defendants

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>learned that they might be under criminal investigation. Oh god,

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that's good. That must they must have been, dude, I

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>can only imagine how much Steve Bannon's stress sweat was

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 1>just stinking whatever room he was. Yeah, I hope there

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>were respirators left over from the fighting in Portland for

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>those post office guys to like deal with that to board,

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that stinking board, that stink. Yet, I'll donate mine, right,

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>like honestly, like we would sort of confiscate this and

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe auction it off. But yeah, we're just gonna have

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to scuttle this night. We're just we're gonna have to

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>burn this thing in the seat artificial reef like coral

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and wildly shoot it into get get get elon muskin

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>here and shoot it into space like that car off

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it Like we can't. We can't put this in the ocean.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>It's been toxic. Oh gosh. So yeah, what kind of

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 1>like measures did they take when they were like, oh, guys,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we might be doing something bad that the

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.759
<v Speaker 1>police are noticing. Yeah, let's get down. So from from

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the start of the creation, if we build the wall,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in January to October nineteen Brian received more than three

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand dollars and donor funds passed indirectly

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>with the assistance of the other defendants. Um Quas used

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>those funds to pay for his own private expenses, including,

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>among other purposes, home renovations, payments towards the boat, a

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>luxury XUV, a golf cart, jewelry, cosmetic surgery, personal tax payments,

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and credit guard debt. Got cosmetic surgery. He did problem,

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean he has he's horribly injured. Like it might

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 1>not even be a vanity thing. It might be like

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a like an actual medical procedure because he's yeah, he's

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.720
<v Speaker 1>horribly horribly I'm not gonna like like he's committed crimes

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to get the money, but like I don't even know.

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it was like a vanity thing.

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah that he's suddenly coming up with like

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a like beautiful full lips and no wrinkles on his forehead.

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't see evidence of that it's probably related to

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>his injuries unless we like really look and it's like, oh,

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>oh no, nobody got an acid injection. They really, I mean,

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the guy committed some crimes, but like, god damn,

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>they's doubles, triples thick. Now whoever's doing his work, you

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>know they knew what they were doing. So Moreover, in

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>addition to Brian called Foge, the defendant, Steve Bann and

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Andrew battle Lotto and Timothy Shay the defendants, each received

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of dollars and donor funds from We

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Build the Wall, which they each used to pay for

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a variety of personal expenses, including, among other things, travel, hotels,

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>consumer goods, and personal credit card debts. In addition to

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the payments described above to cole Fage, with respect to Bannon,

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>in particular, as noted above, Nonprofit One received over a

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>million dollars from We Build the Wall, and while some

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>of that money was used to pay Cold Foge, Bannon

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>was used a substantial portion of those donor funds for

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>personal uses and expenses unrelated to We Build the Wall.

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Um none of these payments were just closed to the public. Instead,

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>they repeatedly lied to the public about where the money

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>was going. Indeed, as called Foge noted the battle loaddo

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>in a text message exchange. As far as the public knows,

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>no one is getting paid and salaries will never be disclosed.

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, we'll crime through it. These victims will have

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>no idea of how hard we're criming. Bros. You know

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>who's not w sing us the post office cops. They

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>can eat a dick, those guys. And they like use

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>like encrypted messaging apps to like I thought like that

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>was one of the things that they thought they were

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>getting real smart, even though they did all this other

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>ship that can be found like you don't know, it

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 1>actually doesn't just as text messages. But maybe I you'd

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>have to say, right like I would say, you'd have

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to think they would at least be careful enough to

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>use like, you know, signal or something like. They're so

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 1>blatant about this. Maybe they were just fucking texting. I

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know, because when you consider like Paul Manna for

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>it was like, how do you make PDF of my

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>fake bank accounting? It's like, oh, boys, come on, don't

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>evenail that ship just googling crimes and pops up with

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 1>a question mark how to do fake bank account pds?

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Like what, Um, it's done for an ad break just

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a thought. Yeah, you know what also won't doesn't you

0:40:56.200 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>know what isn't a crime? Products and services. We're back

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about We Build the Wall, which was

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the most real thing ever created. Um, it just feels

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>like somebody's gonna like write like some when you say

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>we build the Wall. I just like imagine like a

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:26.919
<v Speaker 1>little song that comes on after that. Yeah, literally, yeah,

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.919
<v Speaker 1>it has to sound like a really terrible local business ad,

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Like you're not gonna get a good jingle out of that. No, no. So.

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>In or around October two thousand nineteen, Brian Cofage, Stephen Bannon,

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Andrew bott Alato the other defendants all learned from a

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>financial institution that We Build the Wall might be under

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>federal criminal investigation. The defendants thereafter it took additional steps

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to conceal the fraudulent scheme detailed below. For example, around

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that time and in reaction to the potential investigation, Cofage

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and Battleado began using encrypted messaging apps on their So

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:02.479
<v Speaker 1>that's when they started October all year they're like, hey, guys,

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>how are the crimes were doing going still criming all right, good,

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>good crimes. Everybody keep criming hard, maybe under investigation. Fuck

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>crime out with your time out. It's like time like

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>the spice. That's as as good as I could come

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>up with in a moment. Yeah. Again the stress sweat.

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's so clear. Right, you find out your

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>under investigation, and then you switched to encrypted message and

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>as soon as they find out, we build the walls.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Website was changed to remove any mention of the promise

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that co Faj was not being compensated, and to add

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>a statement that he would be paid a salary starting

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in January. Yeah, because so they stopped paying him secret

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.240
<v Speaker 1>payments and announced that he was about to start getting

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a salary after promising the opposite for months, for like

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>a year, um, and just hope that that would be okay? Yeah,

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>why not? You know maybe just oh you hate to

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>see it and you also love to see it. It's

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>so good. It's just one of the best things that's

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>ever happened. Yeah, I remember very happy about all this,

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>like when it happened, wasn't didn't wasn't that like a

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:13.720
<v Speaker 1>news headline when they he announced he was getting a salary.

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>And that's when people are like, hold the funk on,

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>because first ever, like the sort of public per something's like,

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>where's that fucking wall you're building. It's not there, and

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it was like it's a scheme. And then it's like, Okay,

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that guy's gonna get like a hundred grand, and people

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>like what the funck now? Yeah, yeah, but where's the

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>fucking wall. Yeah, it's blowing over in the wind or whatever.

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:36.240
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. I wonder, I wonder what they thought would

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>happen with this, because they weren't building a wall. They

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>did like a couple of sampled chunks, but like they

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>never did anything meaningful. And their whole promise was that

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>like we'll do it faster and cheaper than the government,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.399
<v Speaker 1>so we'll be able to actually afford to do it,

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 1>and they were. They just kind of like pretend it

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>failed that they had like once certain spots built and

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>then like every engine near and like hydrologist was like,

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna fucking just fall apart. You know, you

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't build it's not even built the right depth. Like

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>none of this is done correctly. So I wonder if

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I'm trying to really put myself in

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that schemer mode, like if Okay, I'm into deep, how

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 1>am I going to get my way out of it?

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I would probably begin some like nimby argument about how

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like these regulations are like stopping us while I'm slowly

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>building some kind of like escape pod to leave to

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>some country without an extradition treatment. Yeah, I do, I

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I do. Like people have compared this to the famous

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 1>mon Rail episode of The Simpsons, and I do kind

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of feel like their plan was just a cartoon drawing

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>of themselves flying to Acapulca with a bag of cash. Right,

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Is there a chance the wall could bend? Not a chance,

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:58.959
<v Speaker 1>my bigot friend, I think the cars for Kids song

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>it's should be Yeah, good hundred walls for big It's amazing.

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 1>So let's get down to the good ship. Forfeit your allecuation.

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Everything up until this point has been like a bizarro

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>comedy skipped a few pages because it was all just

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>like repeatedly restating in different ways they committed wire flowed

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>fraud rightly, which they did um as a result of

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 1>committing the offense alleged incount one of this indictment, Bryan

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>call Fage, Stephen Bannon Andrew battle Otto and Timothy Shay

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>that defendants shall forfeit to the United States pursuing to

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Title eighteen, United States Code, Section NIGHTLA, any and all property,

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>real and personal that constitutes or is derived from proceeds

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>traceable to the commission of said efens, including but not

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>limited to, a sum of money in the United States

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>currency representing the amount of proceeds traceable to the commission

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>of said offense, and the following specific property. Um. So,

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:54.399
<v Speaker 1>it then lists a bunch of different funds contained and wow,

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of bank accounts they put this money into. God,

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm on page two. Um okay, So like there's like

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>two pages of different bank accounts they threw money into.

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 1>And then we get into property. So number one the

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>real property described as a two thousand nineteen Jupiter Marine

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>boat named war Fighter. The real property. Yeah, I think

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the yacht that that um uh call fage got

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>as a results of committing the offensive. Legen account too,

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>of this indictment, the defendant show forward to the United

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>States Andy and all property, YadA, YadA. So yeah, they

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta give up all the fucking ship that they got,

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>um Warfighter, they committed about he loses his boat war Fighter.

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's good looking boat. It is. It

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>had four engines. Yeah, the irony was like he was

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>sailing in that thing in the fourth of July like

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Trump boat parade and floor was his share was. And

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 1>then he got arrested by the fucking Post Office and

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna take that boat. And it's very funny. There

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:52.839
<v Speaker 1>is something poetic about him in a boat like just

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>decked out in Trump flags, the boat being purchased with funds.

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>He griffed. It's just like what they've he fully completes

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the visual circle in that moment. It's so much better

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>than I ever thought anything could be. I I I've

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>gotten a lot of credit over the last year or

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>so in particular and in predicting a bunch of things.

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Um And I can tell you honestly, never in my

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.320
<v Speaker 1>life did I expect Post Office arrest Steve Bannon on

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a yacht would be a that's not on anyone's being.

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Nobody called, especially not Steve Bannon. I guess the Post

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Office might have predicted it. Yeah, God, I so bad,

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like there's so many like just dark, messy

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>dimensions about this entire administration, but like this sort of

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>falls into like Wolf of Wall Street territory, where you

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>just like watch these guys getting over their heads with

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<v Speaker 1>their greed, and then I want like that second act

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>and third act is probably so great when you start

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>seeing it fall apart, because I would love to see

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<v Speaker 1>a dramatics, like a dramaticized version of these fucking losers

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>just pan nicking over the fact that their entire ship

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>has just been exposed, and then like all these terrible

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>superficial band aid fixes to it. Yeah, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to stay I was wrong a little bit earlier. Co

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Faje was um was was released within hours of being arrested.

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>He's on bond at the moment, he's pled not guilty.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 1>And Bannon was released not long on after he was

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>arrested on five million dollars a bond. His travel is

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<v Speaker 1>restricted to New York and Washington, d C. And he

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>can't use private boats or jets without permission. Um So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see, we'll see what actually happens here. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of justice, they got arrested. It seems like a pretty

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>open and shut case to be honest. What would repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>bragging about it and as a rule when the FED,

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 1>when any kind of federal agency does something like this,

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they feel like they have a pretty air tight case.

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and I mean when you but again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's so comedic because it's the confessions are all there,

0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like there, you don't know how what lawyer is going

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to argue that they're not guilty, Like how are you

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>going to explain the better you than me? L O

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<v Speaker 1>L text? Like yeah, I'm sure they've got some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like whatever they'll try, they'll try, But I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying it makes me cringe because you're going in there

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 1>with such like an intellectually bankrupt defense, and like I

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>get stressed. I'm like, oh man, you're not gonna like

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes you can get your way, I worm

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 1>your way out of ship, but this one is a

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>little too tough. I think, if anything, it's it's in

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the sentencing that we really see the lack of justice

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>because I think what they're looking at like twenty years

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>for each charge essentially, but really, yeah, well be surprised

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 1>if it's like, you know, two years they're gonna get

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the aunt Becky treatment. Oh two seconds. I doubt it'll

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>be a crazy amount of time Um, I don't know.

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:53.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone seems to hate Steve Bannon a lot,

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and he committed a bunch of crimes and he has

0:49:56.520 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>no more friends. So if you know, if Steve Bannon

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>gets anything more than a year, I'm going to consider

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>this a big win because then Steve Bannon's in a

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking prison for a while. And I hate him, um,

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and he sucks, And it would be awesome if he

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 1>actually faced a consequence for one of the terrible things

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:20.319
<v Speaker 1>he's Steve no friends Bannon? Is that on your bingo car?

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Justice for Steve Bannon. I never thought. I thought he

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 1>was just gonna live at the fascist castle that he

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 1>was buying in Italy, um, with an army of brainwashed militants,

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>for decades until dying of cirrhosis. I thought he's just

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna sit like in a chair and just slowly decompose. Yeah,

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he looks like, um, I won't be mean, Yeah,

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I want. I just assumed he was going to die.

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Um uh, the death of a successful fascist, which is

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>again in a castle in Italy. Um. Yeah, but maybe

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe he'll go to prison and reform himself and become

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the new face of the Green movement. I don't think

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that's likely, but it would be kind of funny. Yeah, well,

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, thoughts and prayers, you know, thoughts and prayers

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to Steve and Brian and who these are no more friends?

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 1>So Miles, this was fun. How can people find you

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>on the internet if they want to see things that

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:32.120
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0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.120
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<v Speaker 1>So check that out wherever you get your podcasts. Oh yeah,

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:00.080
<v Speaker 1>and we do this thing now where I do a

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>terrible Arnold Schwarzenegger impression and then I say Arnold Schwartzenegger's

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:06.879
<v Speaker 1>a guest, and then pod the podcast app will tag

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Arnold Schwarzenegger as a guest on the show. So if

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:13.399
<v Speaker 1>you're Arnold Schwartzenegger fan, come by. You love to hear it,

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:15.799
<v Speaker 1>You do love to hear it. And the other thing

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you love to do is commit wire fraud, which I

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>have on good authority, never ends badly. So that's my

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>advice to listeners is to go fraud frauds some wires

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:31.839
<v Speaker 1>fraud the hell out of it up. Yeah, you find

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>some wires fraud the sons of bitches. Get it on boom,

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. Or you could like follow Robert on Twitter

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 1>at our right, okay, you could fallo us on Twitter

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and Instagram. At bastards Pod we have a tea public

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>store with lots of different merchandise. And wash your hands

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and wear a face mask. Yeah, wash your hands, wear

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 1>a face mask, commit a lot of wire fraud. Just

0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 1>get it. I can't exaggerate how good an idea it

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is to commit wire friend and text your friends about

0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the wire fraud you plan to commit. Really, just get

0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>get in there, you know, send them letters to about

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:10.720
<v Speaker 1>the wirefront. I have it on good authority. The post

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 1>office is not watching so and also yeah, have those

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>letters notarized as well, so you can really just make

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 1>sure all the correspondence it is fully locked in and

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you're not there's no miscommunication at yeah. Yeah, be really clear.

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Make sure whenever you're committing crimes. To outline the crime

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that you're committing and your knowledge that it's a crime,

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that's a double jeopardy. If I understand what double jeopardy is,

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>perfect that you should be there charged. Yeah, I would.

0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I would love to be Steve Bannon, But I I

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 1>will take that gig, you know what I will. I

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>will quit podcasting if they want me to defend the

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>representing case. Yeah, how would you do it? Like, obviously

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna lose, So would you just try

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>some hairbrained ship or would you just be I mean

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously you got to kind of work them too. You know.

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I think I would take the most asset I've ever

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 1>taken and just see where that leads me. You know,

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I've never been in a courtroom on lsd UM, but

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I bet I could defend two people from charges of

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>wire fraud. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, because then yeah, when

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they have to be like and what have this text message?

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Can you read this one? Mr Bannon? I might turn

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:17.360
<v Speaker 1>out to be like that guy who pitched a no

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>hitter on a head for Yeah, like that, but defending

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 1>people against charges of blatant wire fraud? Oh yes, that

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>is one of the great tales of doc Ellis's right, Yeah,

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>doc Ellis on so much acid. Pitch to Hitter, I

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 1>will be the doc Ellis of fascists committing wire fraud

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in the court of law. That'll be Act three or

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.759
<v Speaker 1>four of my career. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, all right. Yeah,

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Robert kind of lost himself in those later years, but

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>he just kept taking acid and defending Nazis from wire fraud.

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:52.759
<v Speaker 1>But in a way he was the He was the

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>greatest giver of justice because every single person got the

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>maximum sentence based off his hair brained defenses, and people

0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to this day don't know why these people agreed to

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:04.759
<v Speaker 1>have him defend them. Yeah. It really was a baffling

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 1>choice all around. Yeah, alright, well the episodes over go

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<v Speaker 1>be with Jesus, Oh yeah, or z h h h