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Speaker 1: none of them have any sort of self control. They

427
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Speaker 1: can't fucking double dip. It's h hey that then again,

428
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Speaker 1: even when you add the layers of just balls to this,

429
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Speaker 1: where you're like, dude, I'm fucking stealing from you, and

430
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Speaker 1: then I'm also going to have my shitty coffee company

431
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Speaker 1: and built you for more cash from there. My hat's

432
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Speaker 1: off to him. It's start. You know who doesn't sponsor

433
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: this show, That shitty coffee company. But you know who

434
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: does sponsor this show, Oh the good people at Raytheon, Yes,

435
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Speaker 1: Raytheon Miles. You know what's better than a border wall

436
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: for stopping migrants from crossing the border. Oh? Yeah, predator drones.

437
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: Predator drones armed with the new r X nine knife missile. Yes,

438
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: the knife missile allows you to knife people from the

439
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: sky using the power of the federal government. And which

440
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Speaker 1: is and gravity less of a factor, you know, the

441
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Speaker 1: night the beautiful. The beauty of Raytheon technology is that

442
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Speaker 1: it functions equally where well in a zero G environment,

443
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Speaker 1: so that when in the inevitable future we have Moon

444
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Speaker 1: refugees will be able to shoot them with knife missiles

445
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Speaker 1: two miles. That's the promise of Raytheon. Actually, you're saying

446
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Speaker 1: it wrong. It's Gray Theon. Let's roll some ads. We're back,

447
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: all right, So yeah. Again. It goes on for a while,

448
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: for like another page or so about how many different

449
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: ways he promised in public, in in a binding legal manner,

450
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: that he would take no compensation from this and how

451
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Speaker 1: often all of the defendants, including Steve Bannon, signed off

452
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Speaker 1: in one way or another and promoted the fact that

453
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Speaker 1: he would take no like. All of this seems to

454
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Speaker 1: be resting on the fact that Brian cole Fage specifically

455
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Speaker 1: got money from this um and none of them they

456
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Speaker 1: just no one thought anyone would notice anything. I don't

457
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Speaker 1: I it's I can't get my head around it, because

458
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Speaker 1: do you think because like they were just sort of

459
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Speaker 1: being like, if we hide behind this person whose body

460
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Speaker 1: was mangled in war, and that will sort of get

461
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Speaker 1: like sort of give him this position where you wouldn't

462
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Speaker 1: dare question their patriotism like in that like they were

463
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Speaker 1: also sort of like getting really hyped up on that

464
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: idea too, for like the whole sort of grift of

465
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Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, I think they figured that, like they

466
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Speaker 1: could that nobody on the right and nobody in the

467
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Speaker 1: Trump administration would ever allow anything bad to happen to

468
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Speaker 1: cole Flage because he's but like and it's the same.

469
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Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see how this situation in Kenosha

470
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Speaker 1: with the mass shooter goes. But like the Trump campaign's

471
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Speaker 1: initial thing was to be like, oh, he's not affiliated

472
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Speaker 1: with us in any way, we support with law enforcement

473
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Speaker 1: did um interesting and charging him with murder? Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see because obviously there's folks in there right that

475
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Speaker 1: want to like adopt that kid as a mascot. I

476
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Speaker 1: don't know what the Trump I think he's actually speaking

477
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Speaker 1: at the RNCA. I don't actually know like what Trump.

478
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Speaker 1: They all are gonna wind up doing about this. But

479
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Speaker 1: like the initial thing they did was what their actual

480
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Speaker 1: initial reaction is, which is, oh, this person's a liability.

481
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Speaker 1: Let's jettison them immediately. Maybe they'll decide against that, but

482
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Speaker 1: like that's what they've done with cole Fag. Like they

483
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Speaker 1: haven't they haven't made any sort of a stink about

484
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Speaker 1: the arrest of Cool Fager Band, and they've just been like, yep,

485
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Speaker 1: they shouldn't have sucked up and broken the law. We

486
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Speaker 1: support law enforce. But because like, no, they don't give

487
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Speaker 1: a shit about you. Their their their hearts must be

488
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Speaker 1: breaking right now. Yeah, it's like what the funk Steve

489
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: you said would be fine? So let's go on to

490
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Speaker 1: just how fucking blatant this is. So, the document continues

491
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Speaker 1: to note. In developing the strategy of emphasizing to donors

492
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Speaker 1: that co Fage would not be paid a dime, Bannon

493
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Speaker 1: and battle Loado, in a text message exchange, discussed how

494
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Speaker 1: that message would help drive fundraising and options by prior

495
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Speaker 1: donors because it would, as bat Alato stated, become the

496
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Speaker 1: most talked about media narrative ever since it removes all

497
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Speaker 1: self interest taint and gives Brian Colfage sainthood. For that reason,

498
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Speaker 1: Battlato insisted that the statement that Cofage will not take

499
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Speaker 1: a penny of compensation be included in the email too.

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Speaker 1: We build the walls donors about the opt in process,

501
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Speaker 1: explaining in an email that his statement was a material

502
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Speaker 1: item two donors. Again, let us all state clearly in

503
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Speaker 1: text messages, how like that we are committing a crime,

504
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Speaker 1: that we are making legally binding promises that we intend

505
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Speaker 1: to break. Let's just all talk about that, very clear

506
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Speaker 1: documents like, don't even use the finesse of like voice

507
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Speaker 1: messages back and forth, so kind of temporary transmission whatever.

508
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just cement it all there. They made it

509
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Speaker 1: really easy for the Postal Investigative Service. What are they

510
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Speaker 1: technically called U S p I S or something, Yeah,

511
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Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, YAHOUTFIC cops the only cops that

512
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Speaker 1: I'm supportive of until somebody tells me about the horrible

513
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: things that they've done, I'm sure, and then we'll have

514
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: another episode and the police cops. All I know is

515
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: that they arrest fascists on yachts. I speak for all

516
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Speaker 1: of your listeners. Can you stop? Can you stop predicting things?

517
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: They're going to choose for a moment to believe that

518
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Speaker 1: there's a law enforcement agency who just who just arrests

519
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Speaker 1: yacht fascists. I want to believe in something, and I'm

520
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: choosing to believe in this for the moment. Yes, I

521
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: mean it should stop footing horrible things about everything and

522
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Speaker 1: then it happening, like all of us would be like

523
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Speaker 1: super appreciative if you could like predict something good. Yeah,

524
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Speaker 1: I'm going to predict that the only other thing the

525
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Speaker 1: Post Office cops do is arrest people who will legally

526
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Speaker 1: mail kittens. They're just that they're just out there protecting

527
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Speaker 1: kittens and arresting fascists. I've decided to believe this and

528
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Speaker 1: making like some of the best like sort of small

529
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Speaker 1: batch artisanal ice cream you've ever tasted. Yeah, they make

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Speaker 1: ice cream for some reason too, um, and it's it's

531
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: apparently great. So yeah, that's a that's a world I

532
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: want to so. Moreover, the thing goes on to note, uh,

533
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Speaker 1: the defendants conveyed that others in the leadership we Build

534
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Speaker 1: Wall and its advisory board, which Bannon shared, would not

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Speaker 1: be compensated. For example, called fag wrote on social media,

536
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty clear. I made a promise

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Speaker 1: that I would never take a penny. A hundred percent

538
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: of fundraising through donations will only go towards the walls

539
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Speaker 1: percent right, board won't see any of that money. So

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Speaker 1: they just kept promising that everything they were going to

541
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Speaker 1: do was Yeah, it's cut to their texture. They're like,

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Speaker 1: hundred percent means fucking maybe five percent. Board will see

543
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: as much of that money as they want. All right,

544
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Speaker 1: So what do we tell him? This next part's heartbreaking.

545
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: So this goes into like how many of the donors

546
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Speaker 1: believed what he was saying. Donors took notice of this

547
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: coronarative and told Brian call Fage, the defendants, and others

548
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Speaker 1: working for We Build the Wall that it mattered to them.

549
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: Some of those donors were wrote directly to call Fage

550
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Speaker 1: that they did not have a lot of money and

551
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: were skeptical about online fundraising campaigns, but they were giving

552
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: what they could because they trusted Colfage would keep his

553
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: word about how their donations would be spent. Call Flage

554
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: also wrote to prospective donors who raised concerns and sharing

555
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: the donors in private messages that he was not being

556
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: compensated these false assurances successfully induced donors to give money

557
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: to We Build the Wall and opt in to have

558
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Speaker 1: their prior donations transferred to We Build the Walls new

559
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: nonprofit entity. Of the original twenty million raised from hundreds

560
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Speaker 1: of thousands of donors, most of the donors agreeded to

561
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: opt in, so that I didn't realize. But the fact

562
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Speaker 1: that they even have that that like no, no, individual

563
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: donors who didn't have much money personally reached out to

564
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Speaker 1: Brian with their concerns and he lied to these people

565
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: to their phases is It's so sweet. It's so perfect.

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Speaker 1: It's so I mean, it's so Trump University too, you know,

567
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: where people are like you know there, it's like their

568
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Speaker 1: last shot. This is my dialysis money. Yeah, and in

569
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: this case it's like I want to brutalize the brown

570
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Speaker 1: people something. Yeah, I know. But it's just so funny

571
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: that like even then, right, they're so committed to this

572
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: like you know, fear of a black and brown America

573
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Speaker 1: that they're just sort of like you know, giving their

574
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: last material like bit of like wealth they have to

575
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: this stupid mirrage of racism. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

576
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Speaker 1: And it's one of those things like people I I do.

577
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Speaker 1: Like people ask why I don't do more crowdfunding stuff,

578
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: and it is because like when you do crowdfunding stuff,

579
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Speaker 1: you get donations from people who will make statements like that, like, hey,

580
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: I believe in what you're doing. I don't have much money,

581
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: but I feel like I felt like a piece of

582
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: ship every time that's happened. So I would rather take

583
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: I would rather, you know, be paid by advertisers then

584
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: than yes, someone give. Yeah, I don't. I just don't

585
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to. I don't want that

586
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: on my fucking conscience. I don't want to. Like, oh,

587
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: and now I'm spending the money, um, you know on

588
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: grub Hub tonight or whatever or like izza, and it's like,

589
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Speaker 1: oh funk, this was this, Like I I don't want

590
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Speaker 1: to co It's just no, I'm I will. I will

591
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: sell products and services. Yeah exactly. And that's like that's

592
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: my line. I'm not saying it's immoral to crowdfund. I

593
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: think it's fine. A lot of my friends make their

594
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: living that way. It's just like it fucked me up. Uh,

595
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: and I'll probably do something like it again, but I'll

596
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: again repeatedly begged people please don't donate money if you

597
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: don't have money, like it's not important to my rich

598
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: friends only. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, so um. Despite these

599
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Speaker 1: repeated assurance Okay, so this is yeah. Despite these repeated assurances,

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Speaker 1: the public narrative, correct deliberately crafted by the defendants and others,

601
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: was false. In fact, although We the Wall spent money

602
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: on the construction of a border wall, hundreds of thousands

603
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: of dollars were siphoned out if We Build the Wall

604
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Speaker 1: for the private use and benefit of the defendants. Indeed,

605
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: despite co Fage's numerous public statements that he was not

606
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Speaker 1: taking his salary or getting a penny in compensation, within

607
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: days of launching We Build the Wall, call Fage, working

608
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: primarily with Bannon and battle Oto, reached a secret agreement

609
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: whereby call Fag should be covertly paid a hundred thousand

610
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Speaker 1: dollars up front and then twenty thousand dollars a month.

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00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: Because that arrangement was directly contrary to the defendants repeated

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Speaker 1: public representations, the defendants and other scheme to pass these

613
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: payments to Cofage indirectly through third parties, including entities under

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00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: the control of Bannon and Shay um so, yeah, they

615
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Speaker 1: this is the stuff that we, you know, we talked about.

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Speaker 1: Bannon made it clear in a text message to battle

617
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Speaker 1: Lotto that there would be no deals I don't approve

618
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Speaker 1: and directed that co Fage be paid indirectly through Nonprofit

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Speaker 1: one in an attempt to conceal the payments from the public,

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Speaker 1: notwithstanding the fact that co Fage did no work for

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Speaker 1: nonprofit one and that the payments from nonprofit one to

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00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: call Fage would be funded by build we build the wall.

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Speaker 1: Um so yeah, there's text messages between Bannon and Battlelado

624
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: talking about what fasch is salary would be. Um he

625
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Speaker 1: Bannon directs the wiring of money illegally from the campaign.

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Speaker 1: Uh to this. Yeah, Like they've got Bannon dead to

627
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: fucking rights. It sounds like he's he's discussing, here are

628
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: the crimes we will commit. These are crimes because we

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Speaker 1: have like we have to keep these crimes secret because

630
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Speaker 1: they were legal. Here's how I'm going to do that.

631
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Speaker 1: And then we have him personally like doing the wire

632
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Speaker 1: payments and stuff. That's amazing. Oh god, this next part

633
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Speaker 1: when co fag later noted in a text message to

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Speaker 1: battle Loado that at least in part as a result

635
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Speaker 1: of these pass through payments, we build the wall would

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Speaker 1: have to disclose substantial payments to one on tax forms.

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Speaker 1: Battle Latta replied, better you than me l O l

638
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: L stupid pieces of ship. Yeah, lawfully officially, I don't know,

639
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: Like what did you just that a whole cent? I

640
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: mean wow, at every turn, like you had to be

641
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: like wink wink, like it almost could have been that,

642
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I seal the payments ca

643
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: Fag received from nonprofit one co Fage instructed Battle a

644
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: lot of that the payments should be made to call

645
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Fag's spouse and that nonprofit one significant and nonprofit one

646
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: subsequently issued a form falsely stating that it had paid

647
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: ca spouse for media, so that just hey, you know

648
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: what we should do is falsify some government documents. I

649
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: paid you for media. Okay, now if they ask what happened,

650
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: was you held you took some photos of me for Instagram? Yeah?

651
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: Fucking incredible, Like there was a lot of like those

652
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: like fake gass vendors. Was always like vague, right, like

653
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: media like social media or some ship yeah for media,

654
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: like he sucking assholes thereafter beginning in or around April

655
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: nineteen and to further conceal payments if We Build the

656
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: Wall funds to Bryan co Fage that defended his secret

657
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: monthly salary of approximately twenty was passed indirectly through the

658
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: third party entities that were purported vendors for We Build

659
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: the Wall, including one under the control of Timothy Shay,

660
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: the defendant, Starting in around March two thousand nineteen, Shay,

661
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: who had been involved in early operations for the predecessor

662
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: campaign to Weeld the Wall and was familiar with its

663
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: repeated promises, proposed in a text message exchange with co

664
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Faje paying co Fag and himself out of a veiled

665
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: shell corporation to conceal the source in nature of the payments.

666
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Shay suggested that to conceal transactions where, for instant instance,

667
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars comes in and he transfers three

668
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: to cole Fage, they could create companies that hired co

669
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: Fash and Shafe whose service like consulting to further conceal

670
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: the secret arrangement. Co Fasch told Shay in an email

671
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: that they could falsely describe the payments from the new

672
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: shell entity to cole Fage as for social media, love it,

673
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: love it. It's just I mean, because yeah, those forms

674
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: that it just really feels like when you're like being

675
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: lazy and trying to do your tax and you're like,

676
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah that business, internet, social media, sure,

677
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: and it's just my salary. Yep, it's it's the best.

678
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: That's when like at one point too, right, didn't they

679
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: like kind of wise up that, like they were kind

680
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: of being a sloppy with it, Because I feel like

681
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: I remember at the beginning of this year to that Yeah, okay,

682
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: here we go. Um. Yeah. The memo lines on these payments,

683
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: yeah sir again. On or around May nineteen, Shell Company

684
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: one received a thirty thousand dollar wire from Rebuild the Wall.

685
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: Uh then it got you know, paid twenty thousand to

686
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: cold Fage. The memo lines on these payments falsely stated

687
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: that they were for social media accounts and pages, when

688
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: neither coal Fage nor anyone else had done such work

689
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: for Shell Have them at least do fake work like

690
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: putting the make on the fucking Donald Trump sub bred

691
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: to get you some fucking memes, some ship posts or something. Yeah. Moreover,

692
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: additional twenty dollar payments are made a co fage and

693
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: funded with money from we Build the Wall, uh to.

694
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: These payments were made in subsequent months until at least

695
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: October two, thou nineteen, when US discussed below the defendants

696
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: learned that they might be under criminal investigation. Oh god,

697
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: that's good. That must they must have been, dude, I

698
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: can only imagine how much Steve Bannon's stress sweat was

699
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: just stinking whatever room he was. Yeah, I hope there

700
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: were respirators left over from the fighting in Portland for

701
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: those post office guys to like deal with that to board,

702
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: that stinking board, that stink. Yet, I'll donate mine, right,

703
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: like honestly, like we would sort of confiscate this and

704
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: maybe auction it off. But yeah, we're just gonna have

705
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: to scuttle this night. We're just we're gonna have to

706
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: burn this thing in the seat artificial reef like coral

707
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: and wildly shoot it into get get get elon muskin

708
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: here and shoot it into space like that car off

709
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: it Like we can't. We can't put this in the ocean.

710
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: It's been toxic. Oh gosh. So yeah, what kind of

711
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: like measures did they take when they were like, oh, guys,

712
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: I think we might be doing something bad that the

713
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: police are noticing. Yeah, let's get down. So from from

714
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: the start of the creation, if we build the wall,

715
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: in January to October nineteen Brian received more than three

716
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars and donor funds passed indirectly

717
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: with the assistance of the other defendants. Um Quas used

718
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: those funds to pay for his own private expenses, including,

719
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: among other purposes, home renovations, payments towards the boat, a

720
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: luxury XUV, a golf cart, jewelry, cosmetic surgery, personal tax payments,

721
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: and credit guard debt. Got cosmetic surgery. He did problem,

722
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: I mean he has he's horribly injured. Like it might

723
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: not even be a vanity thing. It might be like

724
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: a like an actual medical procedure because he's yeah, he's

725
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: horribly horribly I'm not gonna like like he's committed crimes

726
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: to get the money, but like I don't even know.

727
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that it was like a vanity thing.

728
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah that he's suddenly coming up with like

729
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: a like beautiful full lips and no wrinkles on his forehead.

730
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: I don't see evidence of that it's probably related to

731
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: his injuries unless we like really look and it's like, oh,

732
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: oh no, nobody got an acid injection. They really, I mean,

733
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, the guy committed some crimes, but like, god damn,

734
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: they's doubles, triples thick. Now whoever's doing his work, you

735
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: know they knew what they were doing. So Moreover, in

736
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: addition to Brian called Foge, the defendant, Steve Bann and

737
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: Andrew battle Lotto and Timothy Shay the defendants, each received

738
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars and donor funds from We

739
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Build the Wall, which they each used to pay for

740
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: a variety of personal expenses, including, among other things, travel, hotels,

741
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: consumer goods, and personal credit card debts. In addition to

742
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: the payments described above to cole Fage, with respect to Bannon,

743
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: in particular, as noted above, Nonprofit One received over a

744
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: million dollars from We Build the Wall, and while some

745
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: of that money was used to pay Cold Foge, Bannon

746
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: was used a substantial portion of those donor funds for

747
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: personal uses and expenses unrelated to We Build the Wall.

748
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Um none of these payments were just closed to the public. Instead,

749
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: they repeatedly lied to the public about where the money

750
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: was going. Indeed, as called Foge noted the battle loaddo

751
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: in a text message exchange. As far as the public knows,

752
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: no one is getting paid and salaries will never be disclosed.

753
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Don't worry, we'll crime through it. These victims will have

754
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: no idea of how hard we're criming. Bros. You know

755
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: who's not w sing us the post office cops. They

756
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: can eat a dick, those guys. And they like use

757
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: like encrypted messaging apps to like I thought like that

758
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: was one of the things that they thought they were

759
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: getting real smart, even though they did all this other

760
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: ship that can be found like you don't know, it

761
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: actually doesn't just as text messages. But maybe I you'd

762
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: have to say, right like I would say, you'd have

763
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: to think they would at least be careful enough to

764
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: use like, you know, signal or something like. They're so

765
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: blatant about this. Maybe they were just fucking texting. I

766
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: don't know, because when you consider like Paul Manna for

767
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: it was like, how do you make PDF of my

768
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: fake bank accounting? It's like, oh, boys, come on, don't

769
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: evenail that ship just googling crimes and pops up with

770
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: a question mark how to do fake bank account pds?

771
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Like what, Um, it's done for an ad break just

772
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: a thought. Yeah, you know what also won't doesn't you

773
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: know what isn't a crime? Products and services. We're back

774
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: and we're talking about We Build the Wall, which was

775
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: the most real thing ever created. Um, it just feels

776
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: like somebody's gonna like write like some when you say

777
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: we build the Wall. I just like imagine like a

778
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: little song that comes on after that. Yeah, literally, yeah,

779
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 1: it has to sound like a really terrible local business ad,

780
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna get a good jingle out of that. No, no. So.

781
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: In or around October two thousand nineteen, Brian Cofage, Stephen Bannon,

782
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: Andrew bott Alato the other defendants all learned from a

783
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: financial institution that We Build the Wall might be under

784
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: federal criminal investigation. The defendants thereafter it took additional steps

785
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: to conceal the fraudulent scheme detailed below. For example, around

786
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: that time and in reaction to the potential investigation, Cofage

787
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: and Battleado began using encrypted messaging apps on their So

788
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 1: that's when they started October all year they're like, hey, guys,

789
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: how are the crimes were doing going still criming all right, good,

790
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: good crimes. Everybody keep criming hard, maybe under investigation. Fuck

791
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: crime out with your time out. It's like time like

792
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: the spice. That's as as good as I could come

793
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: up with in a moment. Yeah. Again the stress sweat.

794
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: You know, that's so clear. Right, you find out your

795
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: under investigation, and then you switched to encrypted message and

796
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: as soon as they find out, we build the walls.

797
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: Website was changed to remove any mention of the promise

798
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: that co Faj was not being compensated, and to add

799
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: a statement that he would be paid a salary starting

800
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: in January. Yeah, because so they stopped paying him secret

801
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: payments and announced that he was about to start getting

802
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: a salary after promising the opposite for months, for like

803
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: a year, um, and just hope that that would be okay? Yeah,

804
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: why not? You know maybe just oh you hate to

805
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: see it and you also love to see it. It's

806
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: so good. It's just one of the best things that's

807
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: ever happened. Yeah, I remember very happy about all this,

808
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: like when it happened, wasn't didn't wasn't that like a

809
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: news headline when they he announced he was getting a salary.

810
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: And that's when people are like, hold the funk on,

811
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: because first ever, like the sort of public per something's like,

812
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: where's that fucking wall you're building. It's not there, and

813
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: it was like it's a scheme. And then it's like, Okay,

814
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna get like a hundred grand, and people

815
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: like what the funck now? Yeah, yeah, but where's the

816
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: fucking wall. Yeah, it's blowing over in the wind or whatever.

817
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I wonder, I wonder what they thought would

818
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: happen with this, because they weren't building a wall. They

819
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: did like a couple of sampled chunks, but like they

820
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: never did anything meaningful. And their whole promise was that

821
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: like we'll do it faster and cheaper than the government,

822
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: so we'll be able to actually afford to do it,

823
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: and they were. They just kind of like pretend it

824
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: failed that they had like once certain spots built and

825
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: then like every engine near and like hydrologist was like,

826
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna fucking just fall apart. You know, you

827
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: didn't build it's not even built the right depth. Like

828
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: none of this is done correctly. So I wonder if

829
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm trying to really put myself in

830
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: that schemer mode, like if Okay, I'm into deep, how

831
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: am I going to get my way out of it?

832
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: I would probably begin some like nimby argument about how

833
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: like these regulations are like stopping us while I'm slowly

834
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: building some kind of like escape pod to leave to

835
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: some country without an extradition treatment. Yeah, I do, I

836
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: I do. Like people have compared this to the famous

837
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: mon Rail episode of The Simpsons, and I do kind

838
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: of feel like their plan was just a cartoon drawing

839
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: of themselves flying to Acapulca with a bag of cash. Right,

840
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: Is there a chance the wall could bend? Not a chance,

841
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 1: my bigot friend, I think the cars for Kids song

842
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: it's should be Yeah, good hundred walls for big It's amazing.

843
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: So let's get down to the good ship. Forfeit your allecuation.

844
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: Everything up until this point has been like a bizarro

845
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: comedy skipped a few pages because it was all just

846
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: like repeatedly restating in different ways they committed wire flowed

847
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: fraud rightly, which they did um as a result of

848
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: committing the offense alleged incount one of this indictment, Bryan

849
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: call Fage, Stephen Bannon Andrew battle Otto and Timothy Shay

850
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: that defendants shall forfeit to the United States pursuing to

851
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: Title eighteen, United States Code, Section NIGHTLA, any and all property,

852
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: real and personal that constitutes or is derived from proceeds

853
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: traceable to the commission of said efens, including but not

854
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: limited to, a sum of money in the United States

855
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: currency representing the amount of proceeds traceable to the commission

856
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: of said offense, and the following specific property. Um. So,

857
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: it then lists a bunch of different funds contained and wow,

858
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bank accounts they put this money into. God,

859
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm on page two. Um okay, So like there's like

860
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: two pages of different bank accounts they threw money into.

861
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: And then we get into property. So number one the

862
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: real property described as a two thousand nineteen Jupiter Marine

863
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: boat named war Fighter. The real property. Yeah, I think

864
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: that's the yacht that that um uh call fage got

865
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: as a results of committing the offensive. Legen account too,

866
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: of this indictment, the defendant show forward to the United

867
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: States Andy and all property, YadA, YadA. So yeah, they

868
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: gotta give up all the fucking ship that they got,

869
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: um Warfighter, they committed about he loses his boat war Fighter.

870
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's good looking boat. It is. It

871
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: had four engines. Yeah, the irony was like he was

872
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: sailing in that thing in the fourth of July like

873
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: Trump boat parade and floor was his share was. And

874
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: then he got arrested by the fucking Post Office and

875
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna take that boat. And it's very funny. There

876
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: is something poetic about him in a boat like just

877
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: decked out in Trump flags, the boat being purchased with funds.

878
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: He griffed. It's just like what they've he fully completes

879
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: the visual circle in that moment. It's so much better

880
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: than I ever thought anything could be. I I I've

881
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of credit over the last year or

882
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: so in particular and in predicting a bunch of things.

883
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: Um And I can tell you honestly, never in my

884
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: life did I expect Post Office arrest Steve Bannon on

885
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: a yacht would be a that's not on anyone's being.

886
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: Nobody called, especially not Steve Bannon. I guess the Post

887
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: Office might have predicted it. Yeah, God, I so bad,

888
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, Like there's so many like just dark, messy

889
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: dimensions about this entire administration, but like this sort of

890
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: falls into like Wolf of Wall Street territory, where you

891
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: just like watch these guys getting over their heads with

892
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: their greed, and then I want like that second act

893
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: and third act is probably so great when you start

894
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: seeing it fall apart, because I would love to see

895
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: a dramatics, like a dramaticized version of these fucking losers

896
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: just pan nicking over the fact that their entire ship

897
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: has just been exposed, and then like all these terrible

898
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: superficial band aid fixes to it. Yeah, and I want

899
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: to stay I was wrong a little bit earlier. Co

900
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: Faje was um was was released within hours of being arrested.

901
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: He's on bond at the moment, he's pled not guilty.

902
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: And Bannon was released not long on after he was

903
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: arrested on five million dollars a bond. His travel is

904
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: restricted to New York and Washington, d C. And he

905
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: can't use private boats or jets without permission. Um So

906
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see what actually happens here. In terms

907
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: of justice, they got arrested. It seems like a pretty

908
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: open and shut case to be honest. What would repeatedly

909
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: bragging about it and as a rule when the FED,

910
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: when any kind of federal agency does something like this,

911
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: they feel like they have a pretty air tight case.

912
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I mean when you but again, it's

913
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: like it's so comedic because it's the confessions are all there,

914
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: like there, you don't know how what lawyer is going

915
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: to argue that they're not guilty, Like how are you

916
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: going to explain the better you than me? L O

917
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: L text? Like yeah, I'm sure they've got some sort

918
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: of like whatever they'll try, they'll try, But I'm just

919
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: saying it makes me cringe because you're going in there

920
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: with such like an intellectually bankrupt defense, and like I

921
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: get stressed. I'm like, oh man, you're not gonna like

922
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you can get your way, I worm

923
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: your way out of ship, but this one is a

924
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: little too tough. I think, if anything, it's it's in

925
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: the sentencing that we really see the lack of justice

926
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: because I think what they're looking at like twenty years

927
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: for each charge essentially, but really, yeah, well be surprised

928
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: if it's like, you know, two years they're gonna get

929
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: the aunt Becky treatment. Oh two seconds. I doubt it'll

930
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: be a crazy amount of time Um, I don't know.

931
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: You know, everyone seems to hate Steve Bannon a lot,

932
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: and he committed a bunch of crimes and he has

933
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: no more friends. So if you know, if Steve Bannon

934
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: gets anything more than a year, I'm going to consider

935
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: this a big win because then Steve Bannon's in a

936
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: fucking prison for a while. And I hate him, um,

937
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: and he sucks, And it would be awesome if he

938
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: actually faced a consequence for one of the terrible things

939
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: he's Steve no friends Bannon? Is that on your bingo car?

940
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: Justice for Steve Bannon. I never thought. I thought he

941
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: was just gonna live at the fascist castle that he

942
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: was buying in Italy, um, with an army of brainwashed militants,

943
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: for decades until dying of cirrhosis. I thought he's just

944
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: gonna sit like in a chair and just slowly decompose. Yeah,

945
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks like, um, I won't be mean, Yeah,

946
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: I want. I just assumed he was going to die.

947
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: Um uh, the death of a successful fascist, which is

948
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: again in a castle in Italy. Um. Yeah, but maybe

949
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: maybe he'll go to prison and reform himself and become

950
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: the new face of the Green movement. I don't think

951
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: that's likely, but it would be kind of funny. Yeah, well,

952
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, thoughts and prayers, you know, thoughts and prayers

953
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: to Steve and Brian and who these are no more friends?

954
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: So Miles, this was fun. How can people find you

955
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: on the internet if they want to see things that

956
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: you've done that are rating charging document? Really? I do

957
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: a daily podcast daily like guys, but really you do

958
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: if you need if you need an escape, check my

959
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: show out with Sophia Alexandra four twenty Day Fiance, you know,

960
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: the Bastard. The Bastard Pods followers love Sophia. We get together,

961
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: get just Stony Boulogney and just talk about our favorite

962
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: reality show because you know, that's that's a real escape sometimes.

963
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: So check that out wherever you get your podcasts. Oh yeah,

964
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: and we do this thing now where I do a

965
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: terrible Arnold Schwarzenegger impression and then I say Arnold Schwartzenegger's

966
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: a guest, and then pod the podcast app will tag

967
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger as a guest on the show. So if

968
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: you're Arnold Schwartzenegger fan, come by. You love to hear it,

969
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: You do love to hear it. And the other thing

970
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: you love to do is commit wire fraud, which I

971
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: have on good authority, never ends badly. So that's my

972
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: advice to listeners is to go fraud frauds some wires

973
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: fraud the hell out of it up. Yeah, you find

974
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: some wires fraud the sons of bitches. Get it on boom,

975
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 1: you know. Or you could like follow Robert on Twitter

976
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: at our right, okay, you could fallo us on Twitter

977
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: and Instagram. At bastards Pod we have a tea public

978
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: store with lots of different merchandise. And wash your hands

979
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: and wear a face mask. Yeah, wash your hands, wear

980
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: a face mask, commit a lot of wire fraud. Just

981
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: get it. I can't exaggerate how good an idea it

982
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: is to commit wire friend and text your friends about

983
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: the wire fraud you plan to commit. Really, just get

984
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: get in there, you know, send them letters to about

985
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 1: the wirefront. I have it on good authority. The post

986
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: office is not watching so and also yeah, have those

987
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: letters notarized as well, so you can really just make

988
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: sure all the correspondence it is fully locked in and

989
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: you're not there's no miscommunication at yeah. Yeah, be really clear.

990
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Make sure whenever you're committing crimes. To outline the crime

991
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: that you're committing and your knowledge that it's a crime,

992
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: that's a double jeopardy. If I understand what double jeopardy is,

993
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: perfect that you should be there charged. Yeah, I would.

994
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: I would love to be Steve Bannon, But I I

995
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: will take that gig, you know what I will. I

996
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: will quit podcasting if they want me to defend the

997
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: representing case. Yeah, how would you do it? Like, obviously

998
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna lose, So would you just try

999
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: some hairbrained ship or would you just be I mean

1000
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: obviously you got to kind of work them too. You know.

1001
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: I think I would take the most asset I've ever

1002
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: taken and just see where that leads me. You know,

1003
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: I've never been in a courtroom on lsd UM, but

1004
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: I bet I could defend two people from charges of

1005
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: wire fraud. Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, because then yeah, when

1006
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: they have to be like and what have this text message?

1007
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: Can you read this one? Mr Bannon? I might turn

1008
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: out to be like that guy who pitched a no

1009
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: hitter on a head for Yeah, like that, but defending

1010
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: people against charges of blatant wire fraud? Oh yes, that

1011
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: is one of the great tales of doc Ellis's right, Yeah,

1012
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: doc Ellis on so much acid. Pitch to Hitter, I

1013
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: will be the doc Ellis of fascists committing wire fraud

1014
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: in the court of law. That'll be Act three or

1015
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: four of my career. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, all right. Yeah,

1016
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Robert kind of lost himself in those later years, but

1017
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: he just kept taking acid and defending Nazis from wire fraud.

1018
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: But in a way he was the He was the

1019
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: greatest giver of justice because every single person got the

1020
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: maximum sentence based off his hair brained defenses, and people

1021
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: to this day don't know why these people agreed to

1022
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: have him defend them. Yeah. It really was a baffling

1023
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: choice all around. Yeah, alright, well the episodes over go

1024
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: be with Jesus, Oh yeah, or z h h h