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Speaker 1: Live at the second annual ESPN Cleveland Block Party on

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Speaker 1: the East Bank of the Flats. This is Cleveland Browns Daily,

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Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Nathan

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Speaker 1: Zegura and Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, and welcome in to.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to you by bally Bet, a

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Speaker 2: Nathan Zigura, Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: We are live on the east bank of the Flats

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Speaker 3: right now, seeing everybody milling about. It's the ESPN Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Block Party. And Gibbe, what a time. What happened in

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Speaker 3: Chops is right here getting in the mix right now,

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Speaker 3: and there are people walking around. You got guys, And

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Speaker 3: look at these sharp s men right here, some businessmen

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Speaker 3: coming through molding socks.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like it, sharp dress making their way through the

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Speaker 3: east bank of the flats. This party's going on till

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Speaker 3: seven clock here tonight and Riz the really big show.

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Speaker 3: They just kicked it off and now we're up here

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Speaker 3: for the next two hours. At two o'clock we'll be

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Speaker 3: having a round table with Gerrod Cherry and Jake Trotter

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Speaker 3: from ESPN talking about this Cleveland Browns team and it's

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Speaker 3: a team that's got a lot of excitement around it.

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Speaker 3: And but right now a down period for the Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Browns as they are off. But heard Greg Newsom stop

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Speaker 3: by earlier today and so that's.

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Speaker 2: Great softball game tomorrow night.

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Speaker 3: He has got his big softball game going on tomorrow night.

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Speaker 3: It's team Team Newsom against Team Ward. Little little bragging

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Speaker 3: rights on the line right there.

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Speaker 4: What does the winner get and what does the what

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Speaker 4: does the loser have to do? It's a bigger question.

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Speaker 2: In that position.

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Speaker 3: That's I hope that that was asked when Greg Newsom

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Speaker 3: was talked to earlier today. I feel like that's a

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Speaker 3: very pertinent question. It needs to be answered, perhaps the

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Speaker 3: most important one of the day for those two guys

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Speaker 3: at this time. Right now are hot topics of the

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Speaker 3: day are presented by vivid Seats, official fan experience partner

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Speaker 3: of the Cleveland Browns. We said, we're live from the

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Speaker 3: Ees East Bank of the Flats for the eight fifty

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Speaker 3: ESPN Cleveland Block Party and Gibbe as we sit here

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Speaker 3: right now, mandatory mini camps have concluded around the National

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Speaker 3: Football League. For the Browns, it's no different. The Browns

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Speaker 3: and Menia camp concluded two weeks ago because they will

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Speaker 3: be starting a week early July the twenty second at

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Speaker 3: the Greenbrier, which is why there are only eight dates

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Speaker 3: available at training camp locally, because the Browns will be

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Speaker 3: here as well as in Philadelphia this off season. So

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Speaker 3: we see M at Golden throw up a nice little

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Speaker 3: shot right there, Bottoms a little horse going on.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot lot of stuff going on somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I love it. So I'm going to need

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Speaker 2: a full recap of that at two o'clock. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna need that. Chop says he is. He's down there,

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Speaker 2: the Red Bull DJ.

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Speaker 3: We got his shirt off. Emtt's playing horse over here.

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Speaker 3: There's so many great food and drink options for as

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Speaker 3: you walk around. But for this Browns football team right now,

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Speaker 3: it's time to recharge, and we're gonna find out when

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Speaker 3: these guys come back, really what the buy in has been,

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Speaker 3: what that level of commitment has been to come back

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Speaker 3: completely mastering the playbooks. We know it's a different playbook

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Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball to come back

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Speaker 3: the Greenbrier and hit the ground running, Gibbe. But it's

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Speaker 3: a team, as we heard kind of at the end

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Speaker 3: getting a lot of buzz nationally and no surprise, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean the Cleveland Browns. The fact of the matter

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Speaker 3: is have not lived up to the hype the last

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Speaker 3: few times that they were hyped up. Last year for

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Speaker 3: obvious reasons, there was some tumult and why the Browns

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty season, our twenty nineteen season, I'm sorry, coming

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Speaker 3: off of twenty eighteen that didn't work. You have the

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Speaker 3: all the hype going into twenty twenty one that didn't

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Speaker 3: which is Missouri the show me stay and there's no

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Speaker 3: you don't win any for being a team that's said

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Speaker 3: the or on the radar or a hyped up team.

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Speaker 3: You win by going into September hosting the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 3: consistently over the course of the next four or five,

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Speaker 3: hopefully even six months for the Cleveland Browns. So hype

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter. I'd under the radar, on the radar, over

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Speaker 3: the ray of what talk about us, doesn't matter. Force

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Speaker 3: you to talk about us, right, That's what we need

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Speaker 3: to do, and the Browns have a chance to do that.

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Speaker 3: The way the schedule is set up for the Cleveland

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Speaker 3: the last six times they played them, they are going

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Speaker 3: to be okay. The Browns are for real. And then

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Speaker 3: week too, you get a chance to go on the

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Speaker 3: road against the Steelers Monday night Football, National TV, Primetime,

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Speaker 3: the only game on You win that, you're a team

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Speaker 3: that's going to be talked about by everybody in the

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Speaker 2: But it's got to be earned. And isn't that the

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Speaker 2: way we like it. In Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Nothing is given, everything is earned, and so that's what

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Speaker 3: it's got to be. We got shots going up over

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Speaker 3: here at rum Runners. I love this. This is a

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Speaker 3: great scene, a great set up. A lot of orange

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Speaker 4: Perfect because there is nothing going on in our building.

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Speaker 4: It's nice to come get off camp. That's right.

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Speaker 2: We haven't seen people here actually ce people. Yeah, we've

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Speaker 3: I was like to see all these people out and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people. So that's it's fun.

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Speaker 2: But back to the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Look, we know how talented is And over the course

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go through position group by position group, who

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Speaker 3: we've been around. I've been with this seam. This will

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Speaker 3: be my eleventh season. I think you're same one more

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Speaker 3: I didn't miss much into thirteen.

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Speaker 3: This team right now is an exciting team. This is

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Speaker 3: a team with a lot of talent, some coaching changes,

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Speaker 3: everything that's gone on here in this for this team,

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Speaker 3: this offseason, all of the moves that have been made

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Speaker 3: It's a loaded, loaded AFC. The AFC is ridiculous. You

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Speaker 3: Bills absolutely with Josh Allen, believe that they're Super Bowl contenders.

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Speaker 3: and beat the best teams. And that's why it's fine,

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Speaker 3: as I said, to fly under the radar right now,

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Speaker 3: have those opportunities. But it is loaded. It's not gonna

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Speaker 3: be easy. And that's why the Browns I think loaded up.

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Speaker 3: It feels like they know this is the this is

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Speaker 3: the year. You're gonna have salaries changing and going up

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Speaker 3: obviously with DeShawn and some of the other players on

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Speaker 3: to carry some of this money forward. But they've been

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Speaker 3: aggressive in their trades. They've been aggressive in free agent acquisitions.

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Speaker 4: Do you know about this whole little Travis Kelsey Jamar

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Speaker 3: really great when there is some sort of parody in

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Speaker 3: the rivalry, that there are there is some back and forth,

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Speaker 3: and that both sides of the rivalry have taken something

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Speaker 3: meaningful from the other side. You have defeated them to

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Speaker 3: prevent them from going to the playoffs. You've beaten them

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Speaker 3: as we beat the Steelers in the playoffs. The Steelers

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Speaker 3: have beaten us plenty. But those rivalries especially think back

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Speaker 3: in in our division. The best rivalry for a long

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Speaker 3: time was the Ravens and the Steelers, and there was

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Speaker 3: a year's years where no game was decided by more

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Speaker 3: than three points. They were great games of consequence all

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Speaker 3: the time, playoff implications, all of that that makes it great.

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Speaker 3: And then you have the personalities, the leaders who are

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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, that's how anybody

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Speaker 3: who's listening, I'm sure anybody who's down here at the

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Speaker 3: everybody here is doing. When you compete with your friends,

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Speaker 3: there's always trash talk. And sometimes when you compete with

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Speaker 3: people who are not your friends. But these guys all

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Speaker 3: know each other. Jamar Chase and Pat Mahomes would cross

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Speaker 3: each other's paths, and you know whether it be as

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Speaker 3: the hof would always say, oh yeah, I was with

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Speaker 3: him at a pro ball, though Mahomes has never been

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Speaker 3: able to play in one because he's practically in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl every single year, so they haven't been able

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Speaker 3: to line up. But they know who each other are

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Speaker 3: They I'm sure have had many cordial conversations like California

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Speaker 3: and Florida. It's fun, it's fun. A little trash talk

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Speaker 3: is fun. A little trash talk changes sometimes, it gives

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Speaker 3: a little more juice to it, a little bulletin board material.

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Speaker 3: These guys don't need anything extra to get motivated, folks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the notion that that exists. To me

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Speaker 3: is a little bit absurd, but there's nothing wrong the

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Speaker 3: it makes you want to spend an extra minute on film,

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Speaker 3: an extra hour on film, when it makes you want

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Speaker 3: to go just I'm not you won't let that guy

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Speaker 3: beat you. That mentality, which is what they really have

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Speaker 3: basically every time they're on the field. I'm all for it.

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Speaker 3: I'm all for it, and I love Travis Kelcey. My

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Speaker 3: so I go ahead and talk your trash, talk your trash.

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Speaker 2: But you've got to back it up.

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Speaker 3: And you'll see in this league, in locker rooms around

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Speaker 3: this league, and even you've seen it here in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: When you're somebody who does talk trash but you cannot

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Speaker 3: back it up, you're not gonna last long. That doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: And so it is fun when you got the top guys.

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Speaker 3: But you go look at the NBA example, like was

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Speaker 3: a guy named Dylan Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Memphis. Yeah, when you.

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Speaker 3: Go and you talk trash to Lebron, Lebron, and then

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it changes the fortunes of your series.

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Speaker 3: You can't back it up and Lebron can. Well, then

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Speaker 3: that you look like an idiot. Yeah, Jamar Chase is

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Speaker 3: good enough and play the most important position, like Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Thisbody's good enough to flap his gums a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think it's great. We need

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Speaker 3: to get to the point where we're winning enough where

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Speaker 3: we can talk a little bit of trash, where we

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Speaker 3: can get a little bit chesty. Right now, that's not

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Speaker 3: who the Browns are. It's not who the Browns should be.

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Speaker 3: The Bengals, they've been the class of the AFC North,

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Speaker 3: no surprise, that they've been talking a little bit of trash.

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Speaker 3: You think about the Baltimore Ravens, they have been very successful.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers, we know the deal. The Browns want to

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Speaker 3: be a team that can get into those conversations where

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Speaker 3: it's worth talking. And you go back to was it

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Speaker 3: Juju Smith Schuster? The Browns is the Browns. Well, we

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Speaker 3: went out there and took it to him in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: We took something that mattered from them. I'll never forget

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Speaker 3: being at that stadium with not very many people, a

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Speaker 3: couple hundred people maybe, and just sitting there and staring

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Speaker 3: at Ben Roethlisberger and Marquise Pouncey sitting on the bench,

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Speaker 3: just distraught. And now you thought that was going to

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Speaker 3: be the it for Ben. He came back from where here?

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Speaker 3: That was it for Pouncy And now those guys are

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Speaker 3: often of the sunset playoff memory with the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: is a big fat l. But that's what you gotta do,

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Speaker 3: and you gotta do it consistently. And that's why this

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Speaker 3: it's not enough.

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Speaker 2: To be close.

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Speaker 3: It's not enough to be like, oh man, yeah, well

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Speaker 3: there were ten playoff teams in only seven spots, and

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Speaker 3: you know it's just an unlucky year. No, this team

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Speaker 3: needs to go out and beat other teams. This team

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Speaker 3: teams and be able to be a team that can

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Speaker 3: team that can back it up when they need to

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Speaker 3: go out there and handle their business against the elite

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Speaker 3: you know, against teams that are very very good. You

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Speaker 3: a lot. This is gonna be a tough schedule, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: But the Browns have everything they need to go out

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Speaker 3: and get the job done. And that's what we're gonna

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Speaker 3: ko for get coming up at two o'clock, that's when

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Speaker 3: we are going to have Gerrod Cherry, the Browns radio

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Speaker 3: Browns for ESPN we're gonna have them up here. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna have ourselves a little Brown's table with Gibbe and

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Speaker 3: go through kind of where their opinions are as well.

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Speaker 3: What we're gonna do next though, when we come back,

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Speaker 2: Where do things.

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Speaker 3: Stand as we are in this break getting ready for

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Speaker 3: All right, Nathan's Jason Gibbs here with you, and we

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Speaker 3: told you we're gonna take a look at one of

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Speaker 3: the reason why are we so optimistic about this Cleveland

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Speaker 3: brown seam. Well, one of the things is the way

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Speaker 3: that this roster is shaping up. Some of the moves

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Speaker 3: that were made by Andrew Berry and free agency, the

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Speaker 3: draft trades as well to really kind of get this

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Speaker 3: you've got talent, where you've got competition, where you've got depth,

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Speaker 3: And I think that is definitely something that was very

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Speaker 3: important in the construction of this roster. And not only that,

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Speaker 3: there's succession planning in place at a lot of these

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Speaker 3: important positions and important roster spots. So let's start obviously

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Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. It all is about Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 3: this year. In any ways, you could say a lot

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Speaker 3: of the brown season is about Deshaun Watson, a guy

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Speaker 3: who has been incredibly accurate his entire career, guy who

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Speaker 3: has been one of the most efficient passers in the

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Speaker 3: history of the NFL. In fact, prior to playing for

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Speaker 3: the Browns last year, all time leader in raiding, top

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Speaker 3: three in completion percentage, led the league in passing in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty. He was rusty, no doubt. But if you

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Speaker 3: were out there and you've read anybody, you don't have

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Speaker 3: to even listen to me. I was there, but you'll

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Speaker 3: hear from Jake Trotter, You're gonna hear from Girod Cherry.

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Speaker 3: At Mini camp he put on a show the likes

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Speaker 3: of which we have not seen on those fields. It

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Speaker 3: has never happened before. He had a day in the

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Speaker 3: seven on sevens. He went nineteen out of twenty. He

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Speaker 3: went nine touchdown passes on ten red zone plays. He

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Speaker 3: was throwing darts. The Browns f coaches who have worked

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Speaker 3: with some of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game.

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Speaker 3: Alex Van Pelt was with Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay,

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Speaker 3: Chad O'Shea was with Tom Brady in New England. They

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Speaker 3: know what greatness looks like. We know that he has

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Speaker 3: that ability. They've seen it. I've talked to both of

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Speaker 3: Now we need to do it obviously when the lights

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Speaker 3: come on. But you got Deshaun Watson, you've got Josh Dobbs,

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Speaker 3: who everybody liked here I thought, well, looks like an

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Speaker 3: excellent backup. Played well for the Tennessee Titans last year

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Speaker 3: when was given the opportunity to start for them down

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Speaker 3: the stretch, almost led them into the playoffs against the

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguards. Had a couple of drop passes and things

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Speaker 3: that didn't go his way at the end of that game,

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Speaker 3: but had a very strong showing I think, and really

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Speaker 3: made a name for himself. The Browns able to get

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Speaker 3: him back. And so he's been in this system. He

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Speaker 3: understands this offense, and now there are tweaks. You'd say, well,

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Speaker 3: what's not the same as last year. You'd be exactly right.

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Speaker 3: This offense will be very different than it was last year,

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Speaker 3: much more shotgun, much more pass oriented. But Josh Dobbs

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Speaker 3: fits a lot of those things. With the quarterback run

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Speaker 3: ability as we saw from him last year, his ability

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Speaker 3: to kind of understand where to go with the football.

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Speaker 2: All of that.

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Speaker 3: So you get Josh Dobbs as your backup, and then

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Speaker 3: there's a battle for the third quarterback spot, and I

651
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: would say that it's even open to push. You know,

652
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs, and that's Kellen Mond who the Browns had

653
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: in town last year. They got him, a former third

654
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: round pick of the Minnesota Vikings. And then this year's

655
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: fifth round pick, Dorian Thompson Robinson, who was so impressive

656
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: at UCLA, you know, complete nearly seventy percent of his passes,

657
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: all time leading passer, all time leading total yardage producer,

658
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: all time leading score in the history of UCLA football.

659
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: He did it all for that organization with Chip Kelly obviously,

660
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: nos Demitric Felton knows our draft pick. Center Tillman was

661
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: his high school quarterback at Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas.

662
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: But he's a guy who I think came out and

663
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: made the most of that initial period. Gibbe and you know,

664
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: those four quarterbacks, and my guess is the Browns will

665
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: carry three. Dorian Thompson Robinson I think is being looked

666
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: at as the backup of the future. The question is

667
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: just how soon does that future start for that young man.

668
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: And I think what's cool about having that extra preseason

669
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: game this year is we're going to get to see

670
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: a ton of him, and I think Browns fans are

671
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: gonna enjoy watching him.

672
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Speaker 2: Play the game.

673
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: Dynamic, y with his arm, dynamic with his legs, and

674
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Speaker 3: is going to produce I think a lot of very

675
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: very fun fun plays this preseason.

676
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Speaker 4: I would also say a natural leader in the huddle,

677
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: no doubt. Guys just gravitate toward him and react to him.

678
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: He does a great job. It's a young guy and

679
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: he's got some growing pains, but he's going to get

680
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: those out in four preseason games.

681
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's going to play in a lot of them.

682
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: He's played a lot of college football as well. He's

683
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: played a lot, so he has a lot of experience.

684
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: He's a very natural thrower of the football. He's a

685
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: very natural athlete. He's shown in a great aptitude for

686
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: picking up our offense and talking to people in the

687
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: building about you know him, and then you mentioned the

688
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: leadership that's impressed him. He is a natural leader and

689
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: so Dorrin Thoms. Robinson's a guy that you know, you

690
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: hope you don't see on the field in twenty twenty three, right,

691
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: But he's somebody that I think will be a lot

692
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: of fun to watch in the preseason. I meant, you

693
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: don't want se him on the field and the regular season,

694
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: but in the preseason, I think he's gonna be a

695
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: lot of fun to watch in somebody that will definitely

696
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: definitely play role for this team in the future. And

697
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: if that role is just to be a backup quarterback

698
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: that he never has to see the field and backs

699
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: up to Sean Watson, that's fine. But I like that

700
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: pick and that's part of that succession planning that I

701
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: was talking about with the Cleveland Browns.

702
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: You go to the running back room.

703
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: Now, it's obviously anchored by Nick Chubb coming off season

704
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: over fifteen hundred yards rushing, twelve touchdowns. He's averaged over

705
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: five yards of carry every year's career. He is the

706
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: best running back in the NFL. I feel very comfortable

707
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: saying that he is the best running back in the NFL.

708
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: You can make cases that, you know, a guy like

709
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey is more diverse in terms of what he

710
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: brings to the table as a pass catcher, but in

711
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: terms of a runner, a pure runner.

712
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Speaker 2: There is none better, I think than Nick Chubb.

713
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Now, is this the room that needs to be addressed

714
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: before camp? Again, We're going to be a different offense.

715
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: The days of us lining up in you know, twelve

716
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: and thirteen personnel and just running in that stacked boxes

717
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: are over.

718
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 2: We're going to be running into light boxes.

719
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: And the team has a lot of belief in Jerome Ford,

720
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: last year's fifth round pick out of Cincinnati, was so

721
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: productive at Cincinnati, showed some jews, certainly as a returner

722
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: for the Browns last year, he's going to get the chance,

723
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: and so far, the early returns are good. You heard

724
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: what Stump Mitchell had to say about him at the

725
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: conclusion of mini camp that he's going to be that

726
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: number two guy. Now, could they augment that with a

727
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: pass catching back maybe, But same time, we've seen Demetric

728
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: Felton get some looks in that role, and we've seen

729
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore the wide receiver lineup in the backfield quite

730
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: a bit for the Cleveland Browns in obvious passing situations,

731
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: creating mismatches. And so that's something I think that could

732
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: continue into the season as well.

733
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: If Jerome Ford when the pads, come on, is not

734
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: up to stuff.

735
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 3: I could see them matting a veteran guy who's more

736
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: of a pass blocker, you know, third down back type

737
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: of a guy. But as it stands right now, Nick

738
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: Chubb is the man without question. The number two running

739
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: back is Jerome Ford. And then who's gonna end up

740
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: as that third running back? And the options there You've

741
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: got to Meetric Felton, who's back playing the back position exclusively.

742
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: You've got John Kelly who spent some years with the

743
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns in the backfield. Nate mccrary's a young man

744
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: out of Saginaw Valley State. And then there's a guy

745
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: that I like and the Browns like Hassan Hall, a

746
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: rookie out of Georgia Tech and undrafted free agent who

747
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: has shown the ability to catch it, he can run it,

748
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: and he's somebody that certainly I think the Browns are

749
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: looking at. Is you know, could he sneak his way

750
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: onto the roster this year or is he somebody who

751
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: that finds himself on the practice squad that becomes, you know,

752
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: a de Ernest Johnson type for this organization down the line,

753
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: because for the first time ever, we're talking about a

754
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: different level of backfield for the Cleveland Browns because Kareem

755
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: Hunt is no longer here, nor is de Ernest Johnson,

756
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: and it was Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. So I

757
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: think you're gonna see Nick Chubb more be the guy.

758
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford's gonna be that guy who spells him. But

759
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: remember this is gonna be much more of a passing offense.

760
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb still is going to have an opportunity to

761
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: rush for I think, you know, thirteen hundred fourteen hundred yards.

762
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna run out of the shotgun where he's very effective.

763
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna run against lighter boxes than he's ever run

764
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: against at any point in his career, which I think

765
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: will make him more effective than we're used to.

766
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: But that's that's that running back room. And so could

767
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: there be an ad there? Maybe? Do they hope that

768
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: they can get by with what they have?

769
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I don't think that they really want to spend,

770
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: you know, a million plus dollars on a third running back.

771
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 3: They hope that they can get what they need from

772
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 3: the guys they've got in this building, and really it's

773
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: all about Nick Chubb anyway. Nick Chubb is the man

774
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 3: and if you need to get to jern Ford the Brown,

775
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to show that he's ready for that

776
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: responsibility as the number two. And that's really kind of

777
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: what some of this offseason is all about.

778
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's.

779
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: It will be fascinating to see we talked to a

780
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 4: few weeks ago and a few of these other guys

781
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: I mean that are going on year three, year four.

782
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Give get some wings from red Bull. They're walking around

783
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: right now.

784
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: There we go. Thank you very much, gibb A.

785
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: We're on the air still you're working disappointing, come on

786
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: said not from what?

787
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: How about you being the voice of reason on that?

788
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 2: By the way, the voice I'm a professional giveback I am,

789
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: I am.

790
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: But I mean some of these guys that you got

791
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: to see something from them, Like they're gonna be tested

792
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: by a number of the younger players that we've acquired

793
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: and the guys we've gone out and gotten in the

794
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: last couple of years, no doubt, Like it will be

795
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: fascinating to see who steps up. You talk about Felton,

796
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 4: then Anthony Schwartz is another guy that's gone. It's gonna

797
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: get a big test. It's a big challenge to make

798
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 4: this roster here in twenty twenty three.

799
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: And those are two guys who have been on the

800
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: team the past few years. And you think about in

801
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 3: the wide receiver room, which we'll tear in our attention

802
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: to now, Yeah, it's gonna be tough. The Browns knew

803
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: they needed to overhaul their wide receiver room. They trade

804
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: their second round pick to the Jets. They get Elijah Moore.

805
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: They also get a third round pick that was their

806
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: first pick of the draft. They use that on a

807
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: wide receiver, Cedar Tillman out of Tennessee. And so now

808
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: you have a wide receiver room where you have your

809
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: top five I think is set Amari Cooper, Donovan Peoples, Jones,

810
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore, Marquise Goodwin, Cedric Tillman and Goodwin that was

811
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 3: brought in to give you that veteran speed a wide receiver.

812
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: He had a great, great mini camp and he's somebody

813
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: that's exciting. And not only that, it's been his mentorship

814
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 3: of young guys who were maybe the air appearance to him,

815
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: like a Jalen Darden. He has mentored Jalen Darden and

816
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: that has been seen by everybody out there and Jalen

817
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Darden's made some very very nice plays in the Browns

818
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: mini camp and in these OTAs and a lot of it.

819
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: He's been getting coached up on his releases and some

820
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: of his routes by Marquise Goodwin.

821
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: But that's your.

822
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 3: Top five and then then I'll tell you what. David

823
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: Bell's not going anywhere. So that's your that's your top six.

824
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: So if you're gonna get to seven receivers on the team,

825
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: that's a tough thing to do. That's a tough that's

826
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough room to crack. So for an

827
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: Anthony Schwartz, he's got to have that speed stand out.

828
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: He has got to be somebody who takes a massive

829
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: step forward.

830
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 2: He's on the bubble.

831
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: Jaquem Grant is on the bubble, who's one of the

832
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: best returners in the NFL.

833
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: So those guys.

834
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: Dalen Baldwin has made some plays, Mike Harley Junior has

835
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: made some plays. But I think think if you're a

836
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: receiver who was not in those six names that I listed,

837
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: Jalen Darden, your goal is to do something so spectacular

838
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 3: that you force somebody out shockingly, or that you keep

839
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: yourself here in this program.

840
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that.

841
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: Because the Browns receiver room, there are gonna be decisions

842
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: that have to be made at the end of this year,

843
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: you know, and in terms of how much longer can

844
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: they pay Amari Cooper, what's the rate gonna be for

845
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: Donovan People's jones, you know in two years. Elijah Moore,

846
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore, I'm telling you what, folks, he had. He

847
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: was the star of mini camp. And we'll talk about

848
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: that Gerard and with Jake, but he was. He was

849
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: the star of this mini camp other than Deshaun Watson.

850
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: He was lined up in the slot, he was lined

851
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: up outside, he was lined up in the backfield. He

852
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: was catching touchdowns, he was catching short passes and going,

853
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: he was catching bombs. He does it all. He looks

854
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 3: like the guy who came out of Ole Miss who

855
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: was the most domnant receiver in all of college football.

856
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: Going back to some of the guys that you know

857
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: that we don't talk about a lot, those guys are

858
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 4: gonna have to make an impact on special team. Yeah,

859
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: I for you're r's that's how you're gonna get noticed.

860
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: If your receiver five or six. The only way you

861
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: have to play special teams. Ceder Tillman is probably gonna

862
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 4: have to play special special teams. David Bell is gonna

863
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: have to play some special teams this year. And Tilman

864
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 4: is the Browns rookie and a guy that people are

865
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: thrilled with what they've seen so far. Natural capture of

866
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 4: the football reminds me and Larry Fitzgerald, the way he

867
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: catches it with his hands, always in the proper position.

868
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: He's a big guy, he's fast. He dominated in the

869
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: SEC two years ago. Last year he was hurt, but

870
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: two years ago seventeen plus yards, a catch in the

871
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: SEC two hundred yards and a touchdown on Georgia one

872
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: fifty and a touchdown on Bama one fifty and three

873
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: against purdueing their bowl game.

874
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he is a legit.

875
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 3: Number one type of wide receiver in The Browns feel

876
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: like they got a huge steal in him because of

877
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: the injury, and they so, but clearly it's a room

878
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: that mattered. You made an aggressive trade for the second

879
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: straight year to get a stud into that room two

880
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 3: years ago as Amari Cooper. Last year was this year

881
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore. And then you also used your first pick

882
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: of the draft to draft a wide receiver again. You've

883
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: taken a rece e in the third round now three

884
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: straight years, and so far, you know. The jury's out

885
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: on Anthony Schwartz and what role he's gonna be able

886
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 3: to play on.

887
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: This team, if any.

888
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: The jury is out obviously on David Bell, who had

889
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: a not a disappointing but not a highly productive rookie

890
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: season and now finds his room significantly more crowded than

891
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: it was before. And now you've got Cedri Tillman, who

892
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: looks very much the part as he stands six three,

893
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifteen pounds, the biggest receiver in our room.

894
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be fun. Dalon Baldwin's I talked about

895
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: some of those young guys though, people you're gonna want

896
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: to watch in the preseason. Dalon Baldwin, Jalen Darden, those

897
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 3: are the guys we need to see. David Bell and

898
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: Anthony Schwartz, Tilman. We're gonna see all those guys I

899
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: think a lot here in this preseason, Mike Carlee Junior.

900
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: And then the question will be do Jaquem Grant have

901
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: enough as a receiver and a return man to force

902
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: his way onto this roster, it's gonna be competitive. It

903
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: is gonna be difficult to make this Browns fifty three,

904
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: especially in that room. And so we'll see how that

905
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: ultimately shakes out. And then we got the tight ends.

906
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: David Djokuback. You bring in Jordan akenso head over five

907
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: hundred yards last year and Houston and was personally recruited

908
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: by Deshaun Watson. They played together in Houston. You got

909
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: Harrison Brian in the final year his Rickie deal. Now

910
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: battling for that second, you know, third tight end role.

911
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: That room is loaded and should be very productive. Yeah,

912
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: I mean Jordan Akens that might be.

913
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: One of the three biggest acquisitions this teammate in the offseason,

914
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: if you take out the coaching hires. Yeah. I don't

915
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: think you could say it enough. You could see the

916
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 4: chemistry early on big red zone target. Yeah, along with

917
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: the Joku. If he could take that next step and

918
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: become that Pro Bowl tight end. I mean, I think

919
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: that position opens up a lot of options for that

920
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 4: wide receiver room.

921
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 3: You know, when you think about when you think about

922
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: that tight end room and Aikens and I had on

923
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: top three, I mean off top of my head, he

924
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: got Elijah Moore, Dalvin Tomlinson, Juan Thornhill, Zadarius Smith, but

925
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: under the radar in terms of one that wasn't presented

926
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: as a hard heepody.

927
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he could have a big impact.

928
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: You know, obviously if you don't want the chief to

929
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: miss any time, but if he did, Aikens has ability

930
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: to step in and has been highly productive. And he's

931
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 3: he was a receiver in college, was a pro baseball player.

932
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: Didn't even get drafted until he was twenty six years

933
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: old and still in the third round, which is mind

934
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: boggling as a tight end who had hardly even played

935
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: the position in college. So kudos to him. I like

936
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: that addition. So that's what you're looking at on offense.

937
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: And then you know the line. Your starting five is

938
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 3: back Jedrick Wills, Joel Botonio in the middle, Ethan posk Wyatt, Teller,

939
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: Jack Conklin. You've got two young backup tackles that you're

940
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: excited about. And James Hudson you drafted now going into

941
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: his third season and showed the ability to start and

942
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: fill in last year for Conkland. You got Dwan Jones

943
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: you just drafted, who was a mountain of a man

944
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: and the supreme talent out of Ohio State. On the interior,

945
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: Nick Harris's back, remember he beat Posik out two years ago.

946
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: You signed a veteran in a Wes Martin. You got

947
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: Michael Dunn, you got Drew full You drafted Luke Whippler

948
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: out of Ohio State, who many people think was an

949
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: absolute steal for the Cleveland Browns and could be the

950
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: center of the Bill Callahan loves him. So again, it's

951
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 3: gonna be tough to make the roster in those rooms,

952
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: but that's what they put together. Premium positions. What are

953
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: they Quarterback? They got Shaun Watson last year and now

954
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: it's gonna be our first full season with them. He

955
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: looks every bit the part wide receiver. The last two years,

956
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: you've added Amari Cooper, Elijah Wore, Ceder Tillman, David Bell,

957
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: Marquise Goodwin to that room. That's five people out of

958
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: your top six receivers. The only one who's been here

959
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: the whole time was Donovan Peebles Jones. Then you think

960
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: about on the you get another tight end to move

961
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: tight end guy who can catch the football for you

962
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: as a weapon. There, you drafted tackles. You keep drafting tackles,

963
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 3: you keep adding assets. They're drafting guys on the interior

964
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: in the late rounds that you think can be players

965
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: for you. So that's exactly what this team has done

966
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: on the offensive side to put themselves in position to be,

967
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: as we said, a team of great consequence as it

968
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: goes forward here in twenty twenty three.

969
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: Just have to go out and do it. Got to

970
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: go out and they have got and you got to

971
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: do it, and you have to do it right off

972
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: the bet. Well, you have no choice. The way the

973
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: schedule is set up.

974
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 3: They could have made the schedule any number of ways

975
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Browns. What they said is Browns as

976
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: soon as we and the kick season kicks off, it's

977
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: on home Bangles at the Steelers Monday night football, home

978
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: for the Titans, and then home again for the Baltimore Ravens.

979
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: Three division games in your first four.

980
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: And I would say this, I think that Chiefs game

981
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 4: bears watching because that will be your dress.

982
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: Rehearsal game, the final season game.

983
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: You're not going to dress rehearsal afters two days of

984
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: joint practices with the Eagles.

985
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: No. Last year we rested. Every everybody rested, everybody right.

986
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 4: So that leaves the Chiefs game, and I would bet

987
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 4: that they'll play some of their guys, if not all,

988
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 4: and we'll play some of ours, if not all, for

989
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 4: a couple series. That Chiefs game will be very important

990
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: and give you an idea of what's to come.

991
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: You want to get that work and what you'd like

992
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: is to come out of that with a good feeling shot.

993
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: It was so ah.

994
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: He played a little bit against Jacksonville, did not go well.

995
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: Schwartz had those drops. Nick Harris, you know, tears his

996
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: ACL on the second snap and then the next time

997
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: he took a snap.

998
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: It was week twelve.

999
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, down in Houston. Yeah, that's hard. This is gonna

1000
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: be a much more normal process. But I am curious

1001
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: to see what we do in that preseason. It would

1002
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: be nice to see him get a couple series in

1003
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: some success.

1004
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: That's what Newsom said earlier today on The Really Big Show.

1005
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 4: Newsom said, he goes biggest difference. Our quarterback's been here

1006
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 4: the entire offseason, and he's going to be here from

1007
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 4: day one of training camp.

1008
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's really really good. He is quite he's

1009
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: not too sabby at all. Not too shabby.

1010
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: All right, So if you have to address anything prior

1011
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 4: to the season, where do you have to address stuff offensively?

1012
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is an arms race.

1013
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 7: It is.

1014
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you can never have too many weapons. The

1015
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: only thing would be is if somebody my guess is

1016
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: if somebody falters and they feel the need to get

1017
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,240
Speaker 3: another running back or an injury happens in that room.

1018
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 3: I think you're in a good spot at wide receiver.

1019
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: I think you're in a good spot at tight end.

1020
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: I think you're in a good spot on your offensive line.

1021
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: I think you're a good spot in your quarterback room.

1022
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: So I don't expect anything to be happening for the

1023
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns really on the offensive side of the ball,

1024
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: unless they feel that there's a real chance to make

1025
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: a significant upgrade steal somebody, you know, at a premium position.

1026
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: But Mike, I think they're very happy. That's why people

1027
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: made so much about DeAndre Hopkins. The Brown's like, we

1028
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: like our receivers and we're not going out and allocating

1029
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: those kind of resources to DeAndre Hopkins. And so far,

1030
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: really nobody in the NFL obviously has offered DeAndre Hopkins.

1031
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: What he wants because had they would be signed, and.

1032
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 4: He made mention how quickly he wanted to get this done. Well,

1033
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: it's not getting done because you want a lot.

1034
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 3: More money, right and the market is not right now

1035
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: willing to bear that for DeAndre Hopkins. So that's running

1036
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: through the offensive side of the ball. We'll maybe get

1037
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: to the defense at some point, but not probably not today.

1038
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: We got plenty at Cleland Brown's Daily. But we've got

1039
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,120
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1040
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 3: right there. Jerrod Cherry is here.

1041
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: Trotter's bringing us some goodies. Jake Trott in a festival

1042
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,200
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1043
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: he like showing up here?

1044
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh wow? Oh yeah. So we got Jake Trotter

1045
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: from ESPN.

1046
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna have Gerrod Cherry from obviously ESPN Cleveland as

1047
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,080
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1048
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1052
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1053
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1054
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1057
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Speaker 3: to me, brought to us by our next guest, who

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Speaker 3: covers the Browns for ESPN, Jake Trotter, who is if

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Speaker 3: there is no other reason to come down here to

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Speaker 3: this block party live than it is to see Jake

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Speaker 3: Trotter with his mustache which is in full bloom and

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00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: it is spectacular.

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Speaker 7: Jirod can't stop staring at I'm trying to trans fist

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Speaker 7: you like a young Jeff Fisher.

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00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 3: The cops around, and the cops are all jealous. You

1087
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 3: can see it. They're jealous of this mustache. This is

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00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: It's as good as it gets. He's not jealous, said,

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Speaker 3: I got a nice beard over here. I'm this is

1090
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Speaker 3: this is vintage though. This is good stuff, and you

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Speaker 3: brought us a ton of it. Sounds like delightful Greek treats, a.

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Speaker 7: Lot of Greek food from the Greek festival at Saint

1093
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 7: Demetrius and Rocky River Center Ridge, come stop by and

1094
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 7: say I'll be there all weekend when I'm not at

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Speaker 7: the block party.

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Speaker 2: Where what exactly are you working? Because I am coming, so.

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Speaker 7: Take a picture of Oh yeah, there you go. All right.

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Speaker 7: So I work in the I'm more of like an

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Speaker 7: operations guy working the drive through and make sure you

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Speaker 7: know so you can come in and hang out. Or

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Speaker 7: if you're just wanting to stop by for a second

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Speaker 7: you're in a hurry, We're like, we're like, uh, we're

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Speaker 7: like the speedy system.

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Speaker 2: It is a well time. I Am not kidding.

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Speaker 4: You can literally pull into this church and the line

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Speaker 4: can be around, and you're like, I might be in

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Speaker 4: this line for an hour and in ten minutes, you

1108
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Speaker 4: have your food and you're gone.

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Speaker 7: So if it's a three minute ticket time, that's me.

1110
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Speaker 7: If it's an hour, that's me. So if it goes badly,

1111
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Speaker 7: you can blame me a lot. A lot of my

1112
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Speaker 7: reputation is one of the best festivals on.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of belief and faith in you.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt. I think you're you're a man who's trying.

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Speaker 7: To you guys. I about you, guys, want to just

1116
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Speaker 7: about everything we have rod you can't eat during the air,

1117
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Speaker 7: by the way, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't know me, will He's like, Drid's like, are we

1119
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: going to break yet?

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Speaker 7: I've got on the next level before. I'm the only

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Speaker 7: one who's not eating on the air? Am I hosted?

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Speaker 3: Now? I think you would at that point, Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: would have to host direct a little bit of traffic there,

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Speaker 3: all right, guys, So we're gonna talk a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but kind of the state of this Cleveland Browns team here,

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Speaker 3: and you know what's happened right now for you that

1127
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Speaker 3: just want to let everybody know you can get your

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown Stadium. I know that there's a great opportunity.

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Speaker 3: And obviously there will be a new name on this

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Speaker 3: stadium sooner.

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Speaker 2: Rather than later.

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Speaker 3: But Cleveland Brown Stadium for as long as it lasts,

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Speaker 3: just sounds awesome.

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Speaker 7: It's like Washington football team should have kept that name there.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're gonna go to the Commander w that's

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Speaker 3: all you need. I wanted him to go to the I.

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Speaker 3: We thought the Red Hogs would be good. The Washington

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Speaker 3: Red Hog.

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Speaker 7: I like that one too. That was one of my

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Speaker 7: was not what I was pulling.

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Speaker 2: No, not on the radar for me, not on the

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Speaker 2: radar screen.

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Speaker 3: So you can get these things at the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: brown Stadium for the Browns twenty twenty three schedule again

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns dot com slash tickets to purchase today. All right,

1149
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: we're gonna go through. We got Gibbe's put together. We

1150
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: got a lot of stuff to talk about here.

1151
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: We've got I.

1152
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 7: Saw his itinerant show. I was like, let me, let

1153
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 7: me take sit down and take five minutes to read

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Speaker 7: all this. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: It's nice that we have it because the first hour

1156
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Speaker 2: he was.

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00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: Like, he went like this, He put a quarter in

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Speaker 3: my back, pulled the string and was like, cigir, you've.

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Speaker 2: Got an hour go.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we were walking now. I'm excited to have you,

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Speaker 7: but I'm next level sometimes three forty five talk sports.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, well that's basically what. Yeah, we were.

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Speaker 4: Walking in and I'm like, I just want you to

1164
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Speaker 4: know the second hour is loaded up.

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Speaker 2: The first hour has nothing.

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Speaker 7: It's all you I've seen Nathan in action.

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Speaker 2: He yeah, he did just fine. We're here. We made

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Speaker 2: it to two o'clox, so we got through it. We

1169
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Speaker 2: did it. No problems there. But all right, this is

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Speaker 2: fun now again.

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Speaker 3: Nathan Ger joined by Girod Cherry and Jake Trotter live

1172
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Speaker 3: from the East Bank of the Flats at the ESPN

1173
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Speaker 3: Cleveland Block Party. Come on out and check us out.

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Speaker 3: Let's start right now, though, one word to describe the

1175
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: Browns off season moves, and then why you chose that word?

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Speaker 2: And Girod, I.

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Speaker 3: Will start with you because once you answer this, maybe

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00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: you'll be closer to putting a euro on those lips.

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00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: I heard that. Need it, certainly need it.

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Speaker 8: And when you think about what took place last season,

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00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 8: especially with the defensive line, you had to get an anchor.

1182
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 8: You had to get someone like Thomlinson on the defensive

1183
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 8: line to have some girth, if you will, on that front,

1184
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 8: because if you don't have girth, you're gonna get pushed around.

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00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 8: And you watch all the games that I watch, you

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Speaker 8: witn't Is it just like I witnessed that we got

1187
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Speaker 8: pushed around. No, you cannot win a football game, even

1188
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 8: in this modern age of passing at nauseum if you

1189
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 8: cannot slow down to run. So what we did from

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Speaker 8: a defensive line standpoint suring it up, and we think

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Speaker 8: about the other people we brought in, but this is

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Speaker 8: a single fact that we are tougher.

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Speaker 2: I believe, least.

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Speaker 8: On paper right now in the interior of the defensive

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Speaker 8: line is needed.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with comprehensive. Was there a stone left

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00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 7: unturned from this Browns offseason? I mean, free agency, trades, draft,

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Speaker 7: They had a lot of things they had to shore up,

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Speaker 7: and it feels like they did everything that they could

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Speaker 7: possibly do to accomplish all of that. I mean, I

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Speaker 7: can't look at this team and point out any glaring weakness.

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Speaker 7: I think there are questions, sure, but there's no glaring

1203
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Speaker 7: weaknesses and there were last season, which to me says

1204
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 7: that the front office did its job. It's going to

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Speaker 7: give this team a chance to win this year.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with that more and I would say

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00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: it's so comprehensive that they not only it feels like

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Speaker 3: addressed issues for this year, so that to your point,

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Speaker 3: there are no weaknesses or there are things that we'll

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Speaker 3: talk about where you know, people need to emerge or

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Speaker 3: step up or the battles that are to be had.

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Speaker 3: But I think they also artfully planned for twenty.

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Speaker 7: Like those guys we hope are going to be around

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Speaker 7: for a long time. And I'm telling you, like the

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Speaker 7: guy that stood out to me the most other than Watson,

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Speaker 7: I'm sure we'll talk about that was Elijah mor Yes, like, yes,

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Speaker 7: I don't think people you know there's DeAndre Hopkins. Okay,

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Speaker 7: I get it. Elijah Moore is the guy that you

1219
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Speaker 7: think that DeAndre Hopkins could be for the SEAE next year.

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Speaker 7: Elijah Moore I think could have a big season for

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Speaker 7: the Browns. Do you guys agree?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 8: What I like about what he brings to the table.

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Speaker 8: Jake is, in fact speed. Now that's one need, that's

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Speaker 8: one thing on the roster. And you say, okay, who's

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Speaker 8: a guy that can put the fear of God a

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Speaker 8: deepest coordinator with the idea of someone getting beat over

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Speaker 8: the top.

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Speaker 2: He brings that to the table. Now.

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Speaker 8: Granted, Donomind Peoples Jones has certainly made some big plays,

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Speaker 8: and Lamari is just.

1232
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Speaker 2: That well polished, smooth wide receiver, but you don't.

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Speaker 8: Think of speed and as a former dB when you're

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Speaker 8: watching film and you see a guy running by you,

1235
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Speaker 8: that's gonna make you think. But when you don't have

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Speaker 8: that guy running by you more confident when you walk

1237
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Speaker 8: in the football field that hey, these guys are gonna

1238
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Speaker 8: get their passes. But it's much more of a threat

1239
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 8: to your mind set as a dB when you know

1240
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Speaker 8: a guy is in that four to three or lower caliber.

1241
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Speaker 2: And we have that on a roster now. I mean

1242
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Speaker 2: we've had to.

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Speaker 8: Be four, but let's just be real, a guy who's

1244
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Speaker 8: actually made plays with that type of speed.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing to be able to run, you got

1246
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: to be able to catch the ball. In last year,

1247
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: Elijah more caught more passes than were catchable, which again

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Speaker 3: I don't understand that logic. I feel like if he

1249
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Speaker 3: did catch it, it was at least on some level

1250
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Speaker 3: of catchable pass. But that's the argue with the stat people.

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Speaker 3: That's neither here nor there. I could agree with you more.

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Speaker 3: I think that he is ability to beat you from

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Speaker 3: the slot, his ability to beat you out wide, his

1254
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: ability to co line up in the backfield and create

1255
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: all kinds of problems for your defense. I think Elijah

1256
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Speaker 3: Wore is going to be the number one receiver for

1257
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Speaker 3: this team, probably as soon as twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 7: I don't think people realize that, but I think that

1260
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Speaker 7: the Browns think that that could be a possibility.

1261
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: Yes, and they are very excited with what they have seen.

1262
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Speaker 7: And this is one thing too so far. So like

1263
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 7: Amari Cooper and DPJ. If I had terrific years last,

1264
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 7: terrific years last year, what's the thing that they do

1265
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 7: not do very well? They don't separate, They make tough catches.

1266
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Speaker 7: DPJ in particular, Elijah Moore was top twenty as a

1267
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 7: rookie in separation even last year, Like there were stretches

1268
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 7: where he didn' even get it, like target of target,

1269
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Speaker 7: he still was way ahead of Amar and DPJ in

1270
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Speaker 7: terms of separation from the secondary. And what was the

1271
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 7: thing that, like you watch the offense last year, who

1272
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 7: is a guy that can just run by the defense

1273
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 7: and separate? They have that guy now, they certainly do.

1274
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Speaker 3: And to your point, he's great against manam Mari's great

1275
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: against man. So we are teams are going to be

1276
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: in a pickle in terms of how they tried to

1277
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 3: deal with us, because if you just sit in zones

1278
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 3: all day, Deshaun's gonna be able to pick you apart,

1279
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: and we're we be able to run the football with

1280
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb right into those zones. I liked what you said,

1281
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 3: comprehensive and needed, and I'm going to kind of tie

1282
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 3: it again. We're folks on players. It wasn't just players.

1283
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: There were also additions to the coaching staff Jim Schwartz

1284
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: and Bubba vent Trone, and that makes adds more to

1285
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 3: the comprehensive nature of the overhaul of this organization and

1286
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 3: this team, and also it felt needed, and I think

1287
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: you know from the leadership style, Kevin Stefanski has his

1288
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 3: style and he's obviously a great offensive mind, but we

1289
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: haven't had that guy that Jim Schwartz is who is

1290
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 3: going to come in there, maybe be a little bit loud,

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Speaker 3: be a little bit vocal, but kind of grab the

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00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 3: attention of everybody on the defensive side of the football.

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00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: And Bobb Ventron, as a former player, I think has

1294
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 3: a lot of that same spirit in him as a

1295
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Speaker 3: special teams coordinator.

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Speaker 7: I would say the second and third most vocal coaches

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Speaker 7: now after Bill Callahan, Who's gonna be number one for

1298
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 7: as long as he's here, because you can hear him

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00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 7: sparking across the field. Is Schwartz and Bubba yep. I

1300
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 7: mean they are very vocal on the field. And one

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Speaker 7: of the things I noticed right away with Schwartz the

1302
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 7: guys like above the you know, by the center and

1303
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 7: seven on seven for the snap. He wants to hear

1304
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 7: his defense communicate to Rod communicate, yep, we need communication

1305
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 7: was an issue last year obviously in the secondary right,

1306
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 7: and they're gonna be on top of that. I think

1307
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 7: more aggressive. They're gonna get after the quarterback. They're gonna

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00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 7: play man coverage more, which I think is a good

1309
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 7: idea because I think their corners can cover in man

1310
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 7: and they're gonna try to negative place which this defense

1311
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 7: has really struggled with sacks, tackles for loss and ultimately turnovers.

1312
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, and this is not gonna be smirching by any

1313
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 8: stretch of imagination of the former two coaches that were

1314
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 8: here who got replaced, But ultimately it comes down to this.

1315
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 8: You have a very talented defensive team that didn't play

1316
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 8: up to his caliber. And what one was say what

1317
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 8: was the rationale? What was the reason for it? And

1318
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 8: you have to say motivation. You look at that and

1319
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 8: say these guys really took the approach first at the

1320
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 8: start of the season of and it felt like this to me,

1321
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 8: well we'll wait till DeShawn comes back and we'll start

1322
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 8: playing at a higher level. Where the offense didn't take

1323
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 8: that mentality and they from the get go we're doing

1324
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 8: what was necessary and overperformed. If you will, would you

1325
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 8: consider Jakobe being the quarterback. So with the defense that

1326
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 8: seemed to be really mild mannered in its approach, which

1327
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 8: was a representation really what Joe is a mild manner,

1328
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 8: quiet cerebral type of a guy.

1329
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: You need him fire, you need brimstone.

1330
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Speaker 8: And if you think about who you brought to the

1331
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 8: table from a special teams coordinator standpoint, as well as

1332
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 8: where Schwartz represents, it's like, hey, we need guys who

1333
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 8: are gonna get after you and take on that mentality

1334
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 8: and not just go out there and do your job,

1335
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 8: because you can't just do your job, especially play defense.

1336
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 8: Your mentality has to be we are about to go somebody,

1337
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 8: and that's gonna have to be the way in which

1338
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 8: we approach playing football.

1339
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: Especially when you look and see who we have on

1340
00:58:59,000 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: a roster.

1341
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 8: There is no excuse for us not to dominate football teams.

1342
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: And last year you witnessed it. We got pushed around.

1343
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 7: You also got lit up by Bailey Zappie and Joe Flacco,

1344
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 7: and I'm sure that.

1345
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: Right, And there's no excuse for that when you consider

1346
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: what's on the run and he pick it on the

1347
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: final game, we give up a three third and ten

1348
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: or longers on one drive right one. He was the

1349
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: worst than the league at Yeah, So no doubt, I

1350
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 3: think to your point it is it is a much

1351
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 3: needed addition in term from a personality standpoint, but also

1352
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: I think from a scheme standpoint, we're gonna be much

1353
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: more aggressive, much more attacking, much more up the field.

1354
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 3: And I know from talking to some of the guys

1355
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 3: in the defensive line room, you know part of it

1356
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: last year is they had very specific responsibilities and sometimes

1357
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: the offense knew what those very specific responsibilities were, and

1358
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: so Jordan Elliott would have to go into one particular

1359
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: position on a run play and the offense knew it,

1360
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: so they were able to take advantage of it. Now

1361
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: it is much more kind of free wheeling, go get

1362
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 3: up field and be disruptive, and so that's gonna put

1363
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: some more onus on the linebackers to clean some things up,

1364
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: but they should also be cleaner to do that.

1365
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Speaker 7: Yeah, think about a basketball team that doesn't have plays,

1366
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 7: that has like a system, and you know you are

1367
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 7: unpredictable about where you're cutting, where you're picking. That's the

1368
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 7: way the defensive front I think is gonna play this year.

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Speaker 3: Oh and it's also gonna have Miles Dalvin, Tomlinson, Zadarius Smith,

1370
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: Obo is gonna be out there with.

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Speaker 7: Don't forget my guy over. I know, don't forget your

1372
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Speaker 7: Rod Doublo.

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna do it, and you heard him

1374
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Speaker 3: say it, play a lot more five man fronts and

1375
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 3: get after the quarterbacks, saying we're gonna go like you know,

1376
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: a five one to five or however, they're gonna do

1377
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 3: it on the back end and have the ability to

1378
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 3: just rush and cover on the back end with the

1379
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: guys as you said to play Man.

1380
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: Well, what I love.

1381
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 8: Too is the fact that with a defensive line, we

1382
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 8: look at Smith coming on board along with double low

1383
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 8: is what I call them. You create a situation where

1384
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 8: the younger guys who experienced some playing time last year,

1385
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 8: that's not gonna that's gonna be in a premium you

1386
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 8: will not just get the chance an opportunity. You're gonna

1387
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 8: have to go out there and earn it because you

1388
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 8: have some serious depth now on a defensive end spot.

1389
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 8: And again we're working out way through what we're gonna

1390
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 8: be like from an interior standpoint, but you love that.

1391
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: But ultimately it comes down to this.

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Speaker 8: Our cornerbacks, in my opinion, should not have been in

1393
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 8: as much zone as we were in last season, and

1394
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 8: they really change got thrown a bone because from a

1395
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 8: defensive back perspective, Okay, if you put me in zone,

1396
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 8: that's easy, that's that's not a Harvard's job is running

1397
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 8: around and tracing the guy and tracking.

1398
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: The guy all over the football field. So we have

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Speaker 2: the skills set to do that.

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Speaker 8: We have four or five guys that can actually cover,

1401
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 8: and two guys in particular are three if you will,

1402
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 8: that can cover exceptionally well, so take advantage of that.

1403
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: So it all marries together.

1404
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 8: So, for the life of me, I don't understand why

1405
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 8: we played so much zone, but we did so I

1406
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 8: anticipate this year being much more aggressive than that in

1407
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 8: as well and taking chances.

1408
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 7: You guys know who the number one defense in the

1409
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 7: NFL in opposing QBR winning man coverage last season, despite

1410
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 7: all of the issues that the defense, it was the Browns,

1411
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 7: And if you translated that into more man coverage this season,

1412
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 7: you would. I think you're gonna see a much more

1413
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 7: prolific pass covers.

1414
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 8: It makes all sense in the world because of the fact, again,

1415
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 8: who you have on a roster take advantage of that

1416
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 8: much easier throw for a quarterback when he's.

1417
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: Like, oh, they're in cover three, My red tells me.

1418
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 7: To do this here right, It's really It also helps

1419
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 7: when one of the guys who's supposed to be in

1420
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 7: cover three is like, way on the other side of

1421
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Speaker 7: the field.

1422
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: Well, that does not not for us. That doesn't help us.

1423
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: No. But when you're in man as well, and you

1424
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: know with the pass rush that we're gonna be able

1425
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 3: to generate, you know the ball is going to be

1426
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 3: coming out quickly, you have more opportunities to make plays

1427
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: on the ball, make those big negative plays. And I

1428
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 3: think one thing to keep an eye on, and I'm excited

1429
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: to see this is we get into training camp and

1430
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 3: maybe we won't see it much of the season, but

1431
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 3: let's just two seconds give a allow me. We're talking

1432
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 3: about playing some of these five man fronts, the thing

1433
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 3: that has become all the rage in the NFL right

1434
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: now with those quote unquote overloaded fronts where you would

1435
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: put one guy to one side and basically the other

1436
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 3: three on the other, and you put your best pass

1437
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 3: rusher in the middle of the three. The Rams did

1438
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 3: all the time with Aaron Donald. We did it at

1439
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: times last year with Miles Garrett. So we're gonna have

1440
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 3: the ability to think about with five to go. Three

1441
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: on one side, you could have some Darius kind of

1442
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 3: in the middle here, Miles in between him, and then

1443
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: you can put anybody you really want out here, Obo

1444
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: on the wide nine on the other side, and Dalvin

1445
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 3: Thominson pushing the pocket here. They have to give one

1446
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 3: on one matchups to three of those guys.

1447
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Speaker 7: And I think they've got some intriguing potential matchup issues

1448
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 7: that they can create from the offensive line, like my

1449
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 7: guy from Missouri like an inside rusher.

1450
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, maguire. And they like the.

1451
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: Guy we drafted last years, right, Olex right, Yeah, Alex right.

1452
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: He They think in the interior he can be an

1453
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 3: interior rusher for them. Tomlinson could push the pocket and

1454
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 3: then you have him in the interior. Zadarius and Miles

1455
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 3: are both good on the interior, and they got Obo

1456
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: on the outside with his speed. I just think it's

1457
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: gonna be It's gonna be fun watching the Browns to

1458
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 3: get after the quarterback. All right, we're having fun with

1459
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Speaker 3: this Brown's table, joined by Gerrod Cherry and Jake Trotter.

1460
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're talking a little.

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Speaker 3: About Deshaun Watson because obviously that is a pretty important piece,

1462
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Speaker 3: if not the most important piece, for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: We're talking the Browns and here we go. Deshaun Watson.

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01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: All right, it's number one impressions of Deshaun Watson this

1475
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: offseason relative to what you had seen from him previously

1476
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: on those practice fields.

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Speaker 2: Jake, I'll start with you.

1478
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 7: Help me, guys, help me remember because I remember him

1479
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 7: pretty sharp, and it was such a chaotic year last year.

1480
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 7: It's like it's I like blacked out. I can't remember

1481
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 7: like anything to happened on the field in practice last year.

1482
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 7: But I remember him being pretty sharp. And you talk

1483
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 7: to people leading into his return week thirteen, and they

1484
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 7: were like, look out and it just never translated, you know,

1485
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 7: the difference for whatever reason, but it was kind of similar,

1486
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 7: like the first ota that was public, it's like, I

1487
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 7: don't know, and then ever after that he was just

1488
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 7: everything was automatic and you know, connected on the deep

1489
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 7: passes red zone. There was that one remember that one

1490
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 7: session where they had like ten plays from inside the

1491
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 7: ten yard line and he threw a nine touchdown pass. Yes,

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01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 7: and some of them were some tough throws too. It

1493
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 7: wasn't like tough catches, yeah, like it was. It wasn't

1494
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 7: given to him. So I don't I think watching that,

1495
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 7: you know, he looked like twenty twenty, Deshaun Watson to me, and.

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01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: That's what you need to see, Gerard.

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: When you were out there, you saw, you saw Sean

1498
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 3: Watson operated at a high level. What did you think

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Speaker 3: And as somebody who's been around quarterback play, and you've

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01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 3: been around as elite as it gets, what do you

1501
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: think from Deshaun Watson?

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01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 8: A couple things, Nathan, and first and foremost, I go

1503
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 8: back to the Houston game, right and you saw Jashaun

1504
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 8: Watson literally throwing balls into the ground.

1505
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: Yep. His mechanics were completely off, his feet were off,

1506
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: all of it. So everything was off.

1507
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 8: So fast forward to what we witnessed a couple of

1508
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 8: weeks ago. And people will say, well, it's mini camp,

1509
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 8: no pass rush. But when you're watching film, even in

1510
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 8: that environment, you know when a dude's got it, and

1511
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 8: when you're making throws in tight windows and when the

1512
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 8: ball's not hitting the ground during practice, that lets you

1513
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 8: know that you're doing something special. And as you alluded to,

1514
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 8: I know when I see special because if you go

1515
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 8: ever go to a Tom Brady practice, you would rarely,

1516
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 8: if ever see the ball hitting the ground. You had

1517
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 8: a similar dynamic taking place with the mini camps, and

1518
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 8: again you could preface it with and there's no pass rush,

1519
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 8: but there's still something to be said about guys mechanics

1520
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 8: being on fire. You want to go the right way

1521
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 8: with the football, and then just having the ability to

1522
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 8: make it look effortless is what you saw. So when

1523
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 8: it does become a situation where there will be more

1524
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 8: strain and pain involved in the process, you already know

1525
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 8: that he's past that because I've been in mini camps

1526
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 8: where it's like, dude, can you complete a pass?

1527
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 3: We've had way too many of those, And I think

1528
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: the big thing, at least for me, when I talked

1529
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: to DeShawn, I talked to him I actually walking off

1530
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 3: the field that day. He went nineteen to twenty on

1531
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 3: the day in those seven on sevens, nine to ten

1532
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: in the red zone for the touchdowns, and the other

1533
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 3: one I think he had it was a completion.

1534
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: He completed all those passes.

1535
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: It felt like when I asked him, I said, you know,

1536
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 3: he just said, I feel like I'm not thinking anymore.

1537
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 3: And I think part of it is being in your

1538
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 3: own head, right, There's got to be some questions of

1539
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 3: self doubt. You know, I haven't played in a while,

1540
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: what's gonna be like? And then all of a sudden,

1541
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 3: your first ZIW goes in the dirt and you're like,

1542
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 3: now you're thinking about your mechanics, like trying to play golf,

1543
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 3: trying to think about where your elbows should be at

1544
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: all points during your swing. You're not gonna able to

1545
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,479
Speaker 3: hit a good golf so you gotta just play free

1546
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 3: and trust your abilities. And I think that's what he's doing.

1547
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: And then think about the preseason game.

1548
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 8: First pass that goes awrise, second pass not too hot either.

1549
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: So I mean, there was a lot of things.

1550
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 7: All I remember about that day. It was like one

1551
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 7: hundred and twenty degrees outside of Jacksonville. It wet it out,

1552
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 7: my shirt, it was burned up.

1553
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: But all those things stick in your mind.

1554
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 8: So when you have positive plays, when you especially for

1555
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 8: a guy who's done before, because whenever you're coming off

1556
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 8: of a long hiatus, the first question you ask yourself

1557
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 8: is do I still have it? And you want signs

1558
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 8: to show that you do still have it. So what

1559
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 8: he left out of camp saying to himself is like,

1560
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 8: I have all the reasons in the world to be

1561
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 8: confident to take that next step to now We're putting

1562
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 8: pads on because of the fact that I look so

1563
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 8: good playing at a high level during Mini caamp.

1564
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 4: Going back to that Jacksonville game in that first series,

1565
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: like everybody forgets we lost our starting center on.

1566
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: Top of second play right that night. Yeah, we had

1567
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 2: a drop. We were there for a week.

1568
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 7: That was the That was the first time I had

1569
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,520
Speaker 7: done TV where I was like, there was a mosquito

1570
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 7: crawling on my face and I was do I swat

1571
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 7: it away or do I let it bite my eyeball?

1572
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 7: On National eventually swattered it away.

1573
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: You gotta go swat. Yeah, I think that's right. It's

1574
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: a good movement.

1575
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 7: It was a long three days, but I think Errod,

1576
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 7: you nailed it. Every reason to be confident him and

1577
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 7: then everybody else watching it. But no pads, no pass rush,

1578
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 7: and that's gonna be the next challenge for him. Correct

1579
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 7: early on in the season. Let's see you, dude, Let's

1580
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 7: see you do that in a game. If that happens,

1581
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 7: you know this team could win eleven, twelve, thirteen games.

1582
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's the point for him to

1583
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 3: take that next step and regain the form that made

1584
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 3: him one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL.

1585
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 8: All right, and this team just back up on what

1586
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 8: Jake just said. In my opinion, they have to win eleven, twelve, thirteen, agreed,

1587
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 8: and I think they're totally capable of doing just that.

1588
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 8: And yes, you're gonna get tested early on. And a

1589
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 8: lot of people see this as a bad situation, but

1590
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 8: I'm an the opinion it's a blessing. And the reason

1591
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 8: why I say that is this team, historically and most

1592
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 8: teams do in this day and age of not having

1593
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 8: true training camp like it once was, slow, you don't

1594
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 8: have that option. You out the gate, you're gonna see

1595
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 8: within five weeks your division.

1596
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

1597
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 8: You have to come out with the mentality of let's

1598
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 8: go all out. By week five, will regroup and reassess

1599
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 8: where we're at and hit it the ground running again.

1600
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 8: So I love the fact that we're in a situation

1601
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 8: where early on we have such pivotal games because I

1602
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 8: think that's going to force the issue along with coaches

1603
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 8: who are now in the who are now in the building,

1604
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 8: who have this mentality of let's get after it as well.

1605
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 7: Gerald watched three days like remember the time, rugging it out.

1606
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 2: But you know what, I say that out of envy,

1607
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: but the reality.

1608
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 8: Is, and they can totally appreciate this because we grew

1609
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 8: up in the Bay Area.

1610
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers team of the eighties. They didn't

1611
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: practice in pads and they were physical as hell when

1612
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 2: it came down to play football games. Yes, they were.

1613
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 7: It's right here. Yeah, it's mental.

1614
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: It's mental.

1615
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 3: It's a commitment to doing whatever it takes to win

1616
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 3: the game. And at the end of the day, that's

1617
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 3: what this Cleveland Brown seem needs to be about. And

1618
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 3: you've got the talent to do it. You've got the

1619
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 3: coaches who are universally regarded as talented and to be

1620
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 3: able to get it done. All right, Speaking of the

1621
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: offense talk a little were about to shan there. What position

1622
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 3: on offense do you think is the strongest going into

1623
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: this season or what position group do you feel.

1624
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 2: The best about?

1625
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 7: Line? Offensive line? Still, I mean, you've got three All

1626
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 7: pros in you know Botonio, who's gonna be Hall of Famer,

1627
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 7: Wyatt Teller, who, by the way, came back in shape.

1628
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 7: It looks think I think he could have the kind

1629
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 7: of year he had a couple of years ago when

1630
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 7: he wasn't injured. Jack Conklin. He's older, but we've seen

1631
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 7: him perform at a high level. I mean that guy

1632
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 7: had a ter rip. We saw how much I mean

1633
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 7: they missed him when he got injured last year. It

1634
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 7: was like what happened?

1635
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1636
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 7: And then you know they continue to be really on

1637
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 7: Jed Wills and think he's going to continue to develop

1638
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 7: at left tackles. So I think it's the offensive line.

1639
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 7: I mean that's a top three when they're at their

1640
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 7: best offensive line in the NFL.

1641
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 3: We're gonna find out what Jed Wills feels about.

1642
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: The course that he wants is to dakes the make

1643
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: or break here, right he is.

1644
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 3: He willing to be the professional who dedicates his life

1645
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 3: to his craft, much like the man that we're all

1646
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 3: going to watch go get enshrined and Canton this offseason,

1647
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 3: who lived, slept, the hof everything that he needed to

1648
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 3: do to be great. His fear of failure was so high.

1649
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: If he gave up one pressure in the game, he

1650
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: was sick about it forever. That was how you have

1651
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 3: to be. Jed Wills has that mentality. Joe Thomas said,

1652
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 3: He's more talented than his body is, more talented than

1653
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 3: mine ever was.

1654
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 7: I was talking to somebody who said he played on

1655
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 7: a few teams and said, I've never seen an offensive

1656
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 7: lineman grade out at one hundred ever, and Joe Thomas

1657
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 7: did it multiple times while this guy was his teammate.

1658
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 7: I mean, that's perfection, right, there's a reason he's.

1659
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 2: That's no doubt about it.

1660
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 8: And the fact that you played on the team that

1661
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 8: not win a lot of football games and you had

1662
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 8: it's still hundred no idea of how so those games

1663
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 8: that he did play times buy three because when you

1664
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 8: lose a football game, it sticks with you. He was

1665
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 8: in a situation where he lost a lot of football games,

1666
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 8: so imagine the ability just to regroup, reassess the situation,

1667
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 8: and still come out and play at the highest of

1668
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 8: high levels is what he did. So the fact that

1669
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 8: he's going to Hall of Fame, they should put an

1670
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 8: asterisk by that bad boy saying he truly paid the price,

1671
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 8: because a lot of the guys you've seen that Hall

1672
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 8: of Fame were on great football teams, and that makes

1673
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 8: a world of a difference far as your workload when

1674
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 8: you're playing alongside other great players, but when you're the

1675
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 8: solo entity on and having a Hall of fame career,

1676
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 8: you really, really really put in somewhere. But I want

1677
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 8: to just throw this out here, guys. If all the

1678
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,839
Speaker 8: offensive line certainly makes the most sense, but if Deshaun Watson,

1679
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 8: which I think is gonna be the case, comes true,

1680
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 8: the form of who he has been loved this Couple

1681
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 8: that with the fact that Dobbson's spot duty almost won

1682
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 8: a playoff game for the Titans.

1683
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of drop passes away from it?

1684
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 7: What's going on?

1685
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: All the lums are out here, that's.

1686
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 8: Let you have an opportunity to witness quarterback play at

1687
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 8: the highest levels that you have not seen since who

1688
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 8: Barney was on a football field.

1689
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: That's a possibility and beyond.

1690
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 8: So in my mind, I'm gonna take the leap and say,

1691
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 8: you know what, I think what you saw in training

1692
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 8: camp will transfer to the regular season because of the

1693
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 8: reason of this, He's done it before.

1694
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:17,879
Speaker 2: Why would that Why would that change?

1695
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: There is not a lot of historical precedent for a

1696
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 3: quarterback who was as good as he was for that

1697
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 3: many years in the NFL to all of a sudden

1698
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 3: it lose it in their twenties. Now I understand he

1699
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 3: has a unique set of circumstances, but his ability more

1700
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 3: than speaks for itself, and we're seeing it and you're

1701
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: the way that I know that he's back. Everybody was

1702
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 3: like very excited because it was so much better than

1703
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: what they've seen. When you're talking to everybody after kind

1704
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 3: of those mini camp practices and I'm talking coaches, I'm

1705
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 3: talking offensive players, I'm talking defensive coaches, defense players grinning

1706
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 3: ear to ear. They could not because they know that

1707
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 3: that is the ticket to success in this game and

1708
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 3: that he can do it.

1709
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 7: And they start talking about all these other things Schwartz,

1710
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 7: the defensive tackle, rotation, special teams. It all comes down

1711
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 7: to this. At the end of the day, this is

1712
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 7: what this season is going to be all about, and

1713
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 7: really not just this season, but the long term future

1714
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 7: the franchise is gonna come down to what he is.

1715
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 2: No doubt about.

1716
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 8: But here's the thing I'll present the people who have

1717
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 8: these questions. One, how's this surrounding cast? Does he have

1718
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 8: offensive line? You just said that it was the number

1719
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 8: one strength of.

1720
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 7: I said top three, but ye could be number one.

1721
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 8: Well, strengthen position on the team on our team, right, Yeah, no, protection,

1722
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 8: you're not gonna get anywhere as a quarterback he's got

1723
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 8: Does he have.

1724
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: Weapons around him?

1725
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 7: Pretty good?

1726
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 8: And Zamari Cooper pretty good? Is doamind peoples? Jones emerging?

1727
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 8: You like what you see in Elijah, and you got

1728
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 8: David and Joko who's a receiving tight end.

1729
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 2: So right there, I just gave you playmakers. So the

1730
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: next question is does he work hard? Yes? Is he

1731
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: in the film room? Is he the last person there?

1732
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: Is he the first person to leave? Which one? Which

1733
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: dynamic is it?

1734
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 8: So if you're applying yourself and you got talent and

1735
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 8: you've done it before, and a team is supporting you,

1736
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 8: and you're showing leadership skills with guys want to follow you,

1737
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 8: this guy's the limit.

1738
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 2: That's what I see.

1739
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 7: How important is that Cincinnati game for all of these reasons,

1740
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 7: like very if he plays well and they win, don't

1741
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 7: you feel like they can just go play because firstly,

1742
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 7: if he struggles and they lose, now you gotta go

1743
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 7: to a place that let's fay.

1744
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: Like it's just a house of horror.

1745
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 7: Don't win there on Money Night football. I mean, I

1746
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 7: hate to like put that much pressure on the first

1747
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 7: game of the year, but it is what it is.

1748
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 8: It is, but it's It's an interesting proposition because on

1749
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 8: one hand, I have to stay true to this because

1750
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 8: it's absolute truth. You really don't know your football team

1751
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 8: till week six or seven and beyond that's who you are.

1752
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 8: So early on you could take it that was fair

1753
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 8: about last year. You could take it el early on.

1754
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 8: But week six or seven you really start finding out

1755
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 8: who's for real and who's fake, who wants and who

1756
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 8: doesn't want it, and it plays itself out every year.

1757
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 8: That's how it works in the NFL. So yeah, you

1758
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 8: could take it l early on and you could be

1759
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 8: on fire. We've seen teams before six and oh seven

1760
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 8: to know what happens.

1761
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1762
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 8: But actually though, in his case, though, if he goes

1763
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 8: out there and plays well, then you told about having

1764
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 8: your sea legs underneath you and the confidence of the

1765
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 8: chests and the bravado really coming through and beating a

1766
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 8: team the caliber of the Bengals could do nothing but

1767
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 8: give this team more.

1768
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 7: I'm not saying the season is over if they lose,

1769
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 7: and I'm not saying they're winning the Super Bowl if

1770
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 7: they win. I just I've been there long enough. I

1771
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 7: know what the pressure is going to be on this

1772
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 7: team if they lose, right, And I also know that

1773
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 7: what confidence he could get the team could get if

1774
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 7: they beat Cincinnati.

1775
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 2: No does.

1776
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 7: And I think it's helpful that it's a team a

1777
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 7: huge Week one game.

1778
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: It's a team that he's played before. I think that

1779
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 2: is helpful.

1780
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 7: Browns always play the Bengals well.

1781
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: We play them well, especially at home.

1782
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 3: And listen, the Browns after two weeks are could be

1783
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 3: the absolute toast of the National Football League.

1784
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: It could be the city, the city, thing city. There's

1785
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 2: a big range after team.

1786
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 7: I mean, it is a massive range. I don't know

1787
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 7: that there's a team in any in the NFL that

1788
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 7: has a bigger range than the Browns. Your variability where

1789
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 7: they could finish a ceiling or a floor. But just

1790
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 7: in terms of the vibe here, I mean, the vibe

1791
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 7: is gonna be so different based off those two games.

1792
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 3: If we beat the Bengals and then go to Pittsburgh

1793
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: and beat the either some night football, the Browns will

1794
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 3: be the talk of the National Football League.

1795
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: Why the city will be on fire.

1796
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about the Browns defense when we come back,

1797
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 3: because I think that has a chance to be a

1798
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 3: very much a strength of this sement. We're already you

1799
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 3: can tell excited about the offense. This is a complete

1800
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: football team. We'll talk about that defensive side of the

1801
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 3: ball when we return here. This is the Browns Table.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Cleveland Brown's Daily. Live from

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Speaker 3: the ESPN Cleveland Block Party in the East Bank of

1810
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Speaker 3: the Flats. Nathan Zegura presiding over the Browns Table, joined

1811
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Speaker 3: by the three time, three time Super Bowl champion Girod Cherry,

1812
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 3: sideline reporter.

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Speaker 2: For year brown You reach so fast, He's been very efficient.

1814
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 7: Got a little Greek meatball, going three.

1815
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 2: Different things and yeah, it is good. This is the

1816
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: phenomenal food. What city are you most looking forward to

1817
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: going to this year from the food scene.

1818
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 8: The standpoint, you know, Houston is pretty solid. We're going

1819
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 8: back there.

1820
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: I hate Houston for the logistics of it. Christmas is

1821
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna be We're not gonna get home to

1822
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: like ten I will.

1823
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 7: I will never like Houston after this year because it's

1824
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 7: on Christmas Eve and it was kind of like not

1825
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 7: the best.

1826
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 3: Yes, no, it was no. And it's so the airport

1827
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 3: is so far from the state. Has a good food scene.

1828
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 7: Seattle, you know where you know. I like eating Baltimore.

1829
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 7: I always enjoy it.

1830
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: Man, always have salon. I went to the spot for Prime

1831
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 2: Rib and I'm not really a Prime Rib fan. I am.

1832
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 8: Well, I'll hook you up to this plat because it

1833
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 8: was just in Baltimore. It wasn't Baltimore. It was known

1834
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 8: as oh man a zoomy could be out. It was

1835
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 8: what was it called. It was called prime It's like

1836
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 8: known for prime Rib. It's like what it's known for.

1837
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 8: Like okay, it's known for this. So I gotta try

1838
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 8: it now. I'm the man of it because I need

1839
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 8: some well done this to my okay beef if you will, yes,

1840
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 8: And so you eat your steak like well done medium

1841
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 8: medium medium, well, depends on how I'm feeling that day.

1842
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 7: It's a little disappointing, but people have their own.

1843
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: It tastes is subjective. Jay, Now Jacob judging, I only

1844
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: want to It's gotta be a medium rare.

1845
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 7: For me, like about once every time.

1846
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 2: I'll keep judging because I don't care.

1847
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: Now I know that if somebody ever get to me

1848
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 3: a medium to medium to medium well steak, I'll just

1849
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 3: give it to you and be like, and I have

1850
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 3: the medium that I ordered.

1851
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 7: What other food cities do we? What's our other trip

1852
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 7: l A l A l A spot?

1853
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, great food. I'll go there and go to

1854
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: places that you can't find like here. Like I'll go to.

1855
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 8: Rosco's Chicken and waffles spots like that, and there's obviously

1856
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 8: not one out here.

1857
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: And I'll go to in and out Burger place out. Okay,

1858
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: we go back to Indy. It's always good combine food.

1859
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 3: I've got a great if we stay in the cocktail

1860
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 3: give if we stayed downtown again like we did, I

1861
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 3: have the best Italian place for us to go to

1862
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 3: in l A.

1863
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 7: Combat but take a little.

1864
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: We might get there for a week.

1865
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what.

1866
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: It's hard.

1867
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 7: It's hard to hype up cocktail sauce.

1868
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 3: You're talking about the combine and then they and then

1869
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 3: the sauce actually lives up to the.

1870
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: High as electric.

1871
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 3: I keep I keep their their cocktail suses in my

1872
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 3: fridge at all times.

1873
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 2: Almost killed Bill. Yeah he did.

1874
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 4: We spicy, he got there was something you got and

1875
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,839
Speaker 4: literally he was coming.

1876
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: His nose.

1877
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 3: And he'd been there covering Big ten events for years.

1878
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 3: It's not like it was new to him. But he

1879
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he had a tough one. Yeah, there's good.

1880
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: Denver's got good there. We'll be fine on the road

1881
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 3: this year, no doubt. Seattle, I'd like that. Sales got great,

1882
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: some great stuff as well. All right, we'll talk defense

1883
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 3: real quickly to take we know you got to get

1884
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: out of here. What do you think is the strongest

1885
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 3: position on the defense, and is there one that maybe

1886
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: you're concerned about right now?

1887
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 7: I think it's well, Miles, let's take miles yard away

1888
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 7: from the thing.

1889
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: But you could say the edge room.

1890
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 7: I mean it's probably the edge room, just because Miles

1891
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 7: is so dominant. But I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Corner.

1892
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna be really good at Corner.

1893
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: Great cover.

1894
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:57,799
Speaker 7: I think Emerson. Emerson had like the most impressive mini camp,

1895
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 7: but I believe in that guy. You know, here's range. Listen,

1896
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 7: you can't be physical in mini caamp the way you

1897
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 7: can during the season. That's where that guy is gonna shine.

1898
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 7: If Denzel can stay healthy. I mean, he's a Pro

1899
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 7: Bowl caliber talent, and I think they're gonna be in

1900
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 7: good positions to succeed. So it's probably edge rusher, but

1901
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 7: I think corner is gonna be a really good spot

1902
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 7: for them this year.

1903
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 8: Drud I'm gonna go with the defensive ends position. You

1904
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 8: got Smith, you got obviously Miles and what that represents,

1905
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 8: and double O's in the house, and you figure that

1906
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 8: the young guys will take that next step as well

1907
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 8: with their experience, and it's gonna be pivotal because you're

1908
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 8: gonna have a lot of man coverage. So these guys

1909
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 8: are gonna have great opportunities. And I'm expecting two people

1910
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 8: on our team to have double digit sacks.

1911
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 7: Can I ask a question?

1912
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: No.

1913
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 7: At times it's felt like Miles and then when Clowney

1914
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 7: was here, Uh that they've been on the field like

1915
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 7: the entire game, every game on the field, the entire game.

1916
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 7: It sounds like they're gonna try to actually play eight nine,

1917
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 7: you know, ten guys. We're gonna do that in theory.

1918
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 8: J But if I'm an offensive coordinator, I'm already saying

1919
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 8: two minutes drill, hurry up, offense, keep these guys on

1920
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 8: a football field because you don't want that rotation to

1921
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 8: kicking place. And on top of that, this is his

1922
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 8: old school mentality. I'm paying you ex amount of dollars

1923
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 8: be on the field.

1924
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I'm with you. But I want Miles Garrett

1925
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 7: playing his best ball for forty in mid December.

1926
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 2: I want to playing his.

1927
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: Best ball on the the high leverage place, third down,

1928
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 3: third and longs, all the obvious passing situations. I think

1929
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 3: that they have the ability now because I think you're

1930
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 3: gonna see five or six defensive ends up and maybe

1931
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: even four defensive tackles up on game days.

1932
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 7: We were talking about it like they have thirteen guys

1933
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 7: that could make the fifty three up front, right, Yes,

1934
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Speaker 7: I mean it's gonna be really interesting in them.

1935
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Speaker 3: You've got in the end room a lot like Miles

1936
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Speaker 3: Zadarius Obo, Alex Wright, Isaiah McGuire who drafted this year,

1937
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Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas, who they are guy, A lot of guy

1938
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Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas, who's productive last year as a rookie. I

1939
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Speaker 3: mean that's six guys. He is right there, and then

1940
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Speaker 3: you go in the defensive tackle room.

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Speaker 7: And they're not keeping six ins. So somebody already there

1942
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Speaker 7: is not gonna make.

1943
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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna end up with ten on that

1944
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Speaker 3: defensive line. So is it gonna be five and five?

1945
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Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be nine. But I understand why.

1946
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Speaker 3: Now they're gonna have the ability to have a guy

1947
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Speaker 3: on practice squad that they can elevate.

1948
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Speaker 7: I think some of those bets that they signed inside,

1949
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Speaker 7: you know, or practice squad potential.

1950
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Speaker 3: Well, I think right now you got dal Vil, you

1951
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Speaker 3: got Dalvin Tomlinson, you got Elliott, you got perry On,

1952
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Speaker 3: toky I, and you've got Siyah.

1953
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Speaker 2: Ye he'll got.

1954
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Speaker 3: Four and they love Mariehurst. If can stay healthy, that

1955
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Speaker 3: he could end up being.

1956
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Speaker 7: The wild getting a guy or two as well.

1957
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Speaker 3: Well, there's Hill in there, there's Togi who you mentioned

1958
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Speaker 3: who was I was? I mean he and perry On,

1959
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Speaker 3: by the way, could be the most talented of all

1960
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Speaker 3: of them.

1961
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Speaker 7: This is a big difference from last year where they

1962
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 7: would sign a guy from like the Dolphins practice squad

1963
01:25:59,040 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 7: and he was started at fit.

1964
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 2: He played four days later. Yes, it's different is different situations.

1965
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Speaker 3: Tristan Hill, he had former second round pick and Ben

1966
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: Bloom was with him in Dallas when they drafted him,

1967
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 3: so he's familiar with him and said he's a very

1968
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 3: talented young man.

1969
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Speaker 2: They love so far ahearst.

1970
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 3: But again that are also honest about the fact that

1971
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 3: there's really not much you can evaluate in off a

1972
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 3: defensive line right now. You're gonna see a lot more

1973
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 3: of that training camp, when the pads come on, You'll

1974
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 3: see a lot more in the joint practice. You're gonna

1975
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 3: see in the games what these guys are capable of doing.

1976
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Speaker 3: But that will be I think that's interesting. I'm gonna

1977
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 3: throw a position that it's I know that it is

1978
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 3: not the strongest on the defense, but it's one that

1979
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 3: I think at the end of the year we are

1980
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 3: going to say was a massive strength of this team,

1981
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 3: and that is the safety position.

1982
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 7: I thought he was going to say.

1983
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: I like what jan Thornhill has brought already. I think

1984
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 3: Grant Delpit is an emerging superstar. Last year last year

1985
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 3: significantly better, and I think he's going to continue that

1986
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 3: trajectoryman Grant Delpit, people for get had he not maybe

1987
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 3: had that ankle, and what he was thought of at

1988
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 3: one time at LSU, he was thought of one of

1989
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: the top defensive prospects in the country. I mean, he

1990
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 3: was a guy that was considered a first round lock. Right,

1991
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 3: the Browns get him, he suffers the Achilles him.

1992
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 7: Before the Achilles injury, that's rainy. Yes, I think that

1993
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 7: offseason they were really excited about what.

1994
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: He could do.

1995
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 3: Yes, they felt like they stole him. And now I

1996
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 3: think he is going to be a star by the

1997
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 3: end of this year where it's a household name kind

1998
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 3: of around the NFL thing. And then I think the

1999
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 3: underrated signing Rodney McLeod was a great signing and so

2000
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 3: now we have the ability, I think, and sometimes we're

2001
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 3: going to have a dime where we've got three safeties

2002
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: in three corners. I think we're gonna see some big

2003
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 3: nichol as well. But McLeod is a coach on the field,

2004
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 3: still playing elite ball and has been a starter his

2005
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 3: basically his whole career.

2006
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Speaker 2: Knows the defense.

2007
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 3: I think that those three are going to make that

2008
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 3: room be what we had hoped it was. Going to

2009
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 3: be for like the last few years when we saw

2010
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 3: a glympse of Ronnie Harrison in twenty twenty and then

2011
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 3: that poof went up in a who knows what but

2012
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 3: that I think this.

2013
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 2: Safety room has a chance to be very spelled. Well,

2014
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: here's the thing.

2015
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Speaker 8: The linebacker room actually has a chance probably make a

2016
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 8: bigger jump in the safety room.

2017
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, And reason why I say healthy if they

2018
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Speaker 2: do that.

2019
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Speaker 7: Where all the linebackers, Oh, they're all on the bikes

2020
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Speaker 7: because they're all season.

2021
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: Well why do they get beat up?

2022
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 8: Well, if you have your defensive tackle five yards down

2023
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 8: the field where you're supposed to be making your reads

2024
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 8: and rushes and attack the offensive line or the line

2025
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 8: of scrimmage if you will, then you're not gonna be effective.

2026
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 8: So these guys can now use that speed factor because

2027
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 8: they should have clear reads to which hole they should

2028
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 8: be hitting as a linebacker enforcing the issue. So with

2029
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 8: that girth that I keep talking about is gonna make

2030
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 8: a huge difference far as these.

2031
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Speaker 2: Guys' ability to play linebacker at a higher level, because

2032
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 2: there's nothing worse.

2033
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 8: I played Nickel and Diamond, which I had to be

2034
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 8: in the in the in the box, you have no chance.

2035
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: As a smaller guy, you don't want a guard coming

2036
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: at you. What are you gonna do. He got you

2037
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 2: by eighty pounds, what are you gonna do?

2038
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 7: Two one hundred hit the deck.

2039
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna hit the right get out of the way.

2040
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 3: I think if they say healthy, obviously that room has

2041
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 3: a chance. The fact of the matter is last year

2042
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 3: we were one of the highest base teams in the NFL.

2043
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 3: We're gonna be one of the highest nickel teams in

2044
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 3: the NFL this year. We're not going to play three

2045
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 3: linebackers very often. Yes, you want them to play well.

2046
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 3: Jok Jacob Phillips, who has been so tantalizing with his talent,

2047
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 3: Walker was playing great last year.

2048
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 2: Hockey is flashed.

2049
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 3: Taki Takia, our guy Jordan Kunashik getting all the rave

2050
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 3: reviews so far.

2051
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 2: But that room, I think will be better.

2052
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 3: But the fact is in the NFL there are few

2053
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: difference makers at that second level.

2054
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 2: There are some. They exist.

2055
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 3: Roquan Smith down the road obviously in Baltimore is definitely

2056
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 3: one of them. Matt Mlano, you could say in Buffalo,

2057
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 3: you could go to the Niners, Fred Warner, you know,

2058
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner for.

2059
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: All those years.

2060
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 3: But if you can be dominant upfront and dominant on

2061
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: the back, which this team absolutely has the ability to do,

2062
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 3: that's going to take care of a lot of the

2063
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: things going on for this defense and make us, I think,

2064
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 3: a dangerous playmaking defense, which we always thought, I think

2065
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 3: last year we were going to be and it never happened.

2066
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 7: You improved the run defense, and you eliminate the communication

2067
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 7: issues in the secondary. Talent wise, it's a top ten defense.

2068
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: And you added Zadari Smith. You have three of the

2069
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 3: five guys who have two of the five guys who

2070
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 3: have double digit saxon three the last four seasons on

2071
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 3: one team.

2072
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: Let's go.

2073
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 7: Let's go, all.

2074
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 3: Right, Jake Trotter, thank you so much, brother, thanks for

2075
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 3: the gifts. Let everybody know where they can come out

2076
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 3: to the to the Festival.

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01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 7: Saint to meet you. I'm going back there right now

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01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 7: to the Greek Festival Saint Demetrius on Sinner Ridge and

2079
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 7: Rocky River will be open uh tonight tomorrow and Sunday

2080
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 7: Sunday night too. Oh baby, Gibbey's gonna be there Saturday.

2081
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 7: Just take it over.

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01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.

2083
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 3: I've sampled the wares already and the food is delicious.

2084
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 3: You want to wet your beak on that, trust me,

2085
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 3: you got to. By the way, guy thumbs up. I

2086
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 3: think is there a special if somebody had the ticket

2087
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 3: for over under two and a half girths on today's program,

2088
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 3: that they get it, they get a free run through

2089
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 3: the meal over.

2090
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Speaker 7: There, trot on. I would have taken the over actually.

2091
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Speaker 3: Right, I got a Oh boy, do you It was

2092
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 3: the envy of many here all right. When we come back,

2093
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