1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Stop the run, pressure the quarterback. Yeah, that's exactly what 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson does. Welcome Bird Gang on today's show, Paul 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Calvic he joins me together. We'll be joined by the 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals new man in the middle, big defensive tackle Dalvin Tomlinson, 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: and let us stress the word big. Also, as we 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: reach the end of the first full week of free agency, 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: we ask what's next? Plus news on Marvin Harrison Junior. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight sixty and it starts now. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, p. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: To Baker, What Heart? 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 4: What rent? 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: so more hurry magic. 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: Whow here's Craigcreolo. 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: So we have reached the end of the first full 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: week of free agency. And by the way, Paul, I 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: know you know this because of what I saw you 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: doing earlier here on this Friday, March fourteenth, it is 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: Pie Day. 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: All Yeah, and the not the numerical pie either. Don't 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: get me pi and the three point one four and 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: then it goes to infinity or whatever. With all that, 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: you know, I can only go you three point one four, right, 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: I got nothing else exactly. I mean we're talking an 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: apple pie, cherry guy. You know, pumpkin pie, yes, wolf 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: pumpkin pie. But maybe my favorite is pizza pie. And 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: you know I'm already dreaming of a Friday night pizza pie. 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: At some point, we just got to decide where and 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: how much. 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: So you had a apple pie this morning and it's 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: pizza pie, yeah, for dinner? 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: Is that how this is? 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Nobody works? 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: It's been an epic fail, now that you ask, Craig, 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: thanks for asking. It's kind of a sore point. I 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: really made a point to eat clean this week. In 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: the last forty eight hours, I had a cheeseburger with 42 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: bottomless fries because a buddy was in town, and then 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: I followed up last night with pizza, and then this 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: morning I had the apple pie. So not going so well, 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: not going going according to game plan. 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: Okay, well there's there's still hope for you, Paul Is. 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: We'll keep our fingers crossed. 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: A late comeback. 49 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned free agency and I know you're big about 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: the numbers, and I saw this and I got to 51 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: share it with everyone because this is what has happened 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: this week. Adam Schefter tweeted this out entering Friday. NFL 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: teams have signed players to four point eight eight billion 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: with a b dollars in player compensation, almost five billion 55 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: in player compensation that includes nearly three billion and guaranteed 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: money at signing. 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: Wow. And I thought the stock market lost a lot 58 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 3: of money this week. Wow. I did not realize that 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: it was that sort of total. But I guess when 60 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: you think about it, when teams like the Minnesota Vikings 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: have expended a quarter of a billion dollars alone, yeah, 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: I guess it all adds up. But can we all 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: agree it's not about the expenditures, It's about the expertise. 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 3: There's a certain NBA team that leads a league in payroll. 65 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: Very true? How's that going? So? Not every team that 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: wins the off season and does so via the checkbook 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 3: is gonna be a winning team on Sundays. And that's 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: what I like about the Arizona Cardinals. I think very 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: strategic in the Cardinals expenditures and even the big ticket 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: item Josh what forty one million guaranteed reportedly, So it's 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: you know, you're not into nine figures, you know, it's 72 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: it's not something that's gonna put you in cap hell 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: for four years, Saints. You know, it's not like you're 74 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: gonna have to have a blood letting like the forty 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 3: nine ers are doing. It's responsible, it's yes, it's market rate. 76 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: That's just what it commands these days. If you want 77 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: to get an edge rusher. But honestly, Craig, you want 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: to hit zoom out And I know we're gonna get 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: into Dalvin Tomlinson here in a minute, But if you 80 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: want to look at how effective an edge rusher can be, 81 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 3: look at his teammates in the interior D line. And 82 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: then also, was going into this free agency period, was 83 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: there a team with a bigger need than the Arizona 84 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: Cardinals at edge rusher? No? And was there a better 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: edge rusher on the market than Josh Sweat. I mean, 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: don't tell me Miles Garrett was available. Don't tell me 87 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: that Max Crosby was available. They weren't, and they got 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: ridiculous money. And the Dallas Cowboys need to re up 89 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons are like no, as the market got reset 90 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: right in front of them for those two guys, but 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: for the Arizona Cardinals right there, that's a win and 92 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: because that was the biggest need to me by far. 93 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: And then you've seen other moves and they strategically filled 94 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: this roster once again. It was about quantity the first 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: couple of years. Now it's about quality more than anything. 96 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: And sixteen million guaranteed according to reports, for Dalvin Tomlinson 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: over a two year contract. Cardinals also announced the signing 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: of Jacoby Brissett, the heir apparent as far as your 99 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: backup quarterback to Kyler Murray. They also signed a wide receiver, 100 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: simm Fayoho. And excuse me, fey Hoko. Want to make 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: sure I get that correct, because this is someone that 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I think, Paul, You're really going to love because his 103 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: alma mater is Stanford, No College teammates with Michael Wilson. 104 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: So that is not going to go well for you 105 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: in that Cardinals locker. 106 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: I thought you're going to say Syracuse, but it can 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: always get worse. So yeah, well let's see if he's 108 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: half the interview that Michael Wilson is. You know what, 109 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 3: I'll Grin and Barrett, because you know what that is 110 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: the one thing the Stanford guys definitely bring is we 111 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: need guys with good soundbites and normally they are very 112 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: well spoken. 113 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: There is some good news for you, and this is 114 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: according to his agency, there's an offensive tackle that is 115 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: no longer on the market again and according to his agency, 116 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: Jake Kerhan has agreed to terms. Paul, do you know 117 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: where he went to? 118 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: Coline? Are you kidding me? Down on the farm again? 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: No further north? He is a col Golden Bear, Paul, 120 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: How do you not know about Jake Kerhan that already 121 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: starts at right tackle? Undrafted free agent? Yeah, signed by 122 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and according to his agency, is has agreed 123 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: to terms with the Arizona Cardinals. 124 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's certainly embarrassing. We'll we'll edit that out later. 125 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: That just shows you yours truly. Once the move to 126 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: the ACC, I kind of went paully protests this year 127 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: over college football, over the recent events. But uh, you 128 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: know what, Look, Calvin Beacham obviously is your primary backup tackle. 129 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: But what is the status of Jonah Williams. We don't know. 130 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: We do know that the Cardinals let those offensive linemen 131 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: compete and you get into camp and yes, they're gonna 132 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: have their starting five in mind, but this is a 133 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: coaching staff and a GM that if you can play, 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: you will play, regardless of your draft status, regardless of 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: your contract. So you know what, bring a guy in 136 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: who has experience and we all know knock on wood, 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 3: how teams not just the Cardinals and go through offensive 138 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: linement over the course of a seventeen game season. So okay, 139 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: there you go. 140 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: Eleven career starts for Kurhan, mostly at right tackle, has 141 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: also played some guard, and then Simmy mainly a special 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: team or only has ten career catches. But someone at 143 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: six four to two eighteen perhaps maybe some speed in 144 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: that wide receiver room. So we'll see again to your point, Paul, 145 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna hear now as we enter week 146 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: two of free agency, and really this is kind of 147 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: like the second slash third wave of free agency. As 148 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: you get to the end of the week, you're gonna 149 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: have more players added because you got to fill a 150 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: ninety man roster. You want competition in that room, and 151 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: who knows, there might be someone like a Kerhan or 152 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: a Semi that surprises and all of a sudden, hey, 153 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about them getting closer to final roster cuts 154 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: and they're on this team. 155 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: You know, I like that Simi Fejoko and I saw 156 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: a little bit of him online, and uh, yes, he's 157 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: had very limited, you know, production as a receiver, but 158 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: just the size alone, I mean, like, look what Puka 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: Nakua is able to do. Right, you go up to 160 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: Seattle and Jake Bobo right, a big dude, and he's 161 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: really a nuisance what mac Hollins was able to do 162 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: for the Bills and the playoffs. You get these big, 163 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: physical receivers and there's always a place for him, especially 164 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: on special teams. But then in terms of you know, 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: this offense and we all know how it works with 166 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: Drew Petsy and Jonathan A. Gann and no block, no rock, 167 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: they they do not want receivers that are not physical 168 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: and aren't willing to go ahead and lower the shoulder 169 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: pads and get a body on a body. And so 170 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: I like that the potential upside. He's still a young guy. 171 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: And uh though there's a couple of things about Manioskbor 172 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: and Jonathan Gann and I think we've learned over two 173 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: plus years and it's number one, you better as a 174 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: player be deadly serious about football. And number two, they 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: do believe it's a big man's game and win in doubt. 176 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: They tend to draft or sign bigger dudes win possible 177 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: because they like to inflict a lot of physicality. 178 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of a big man's game, there is maybe 179 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: no bigger man than Dalvin Tomlinson six three, three hundred 180 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: and twenty five pounds. And following his introductory press conference, 181 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: you and I Paul had the chance to sit down 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals new defensive lineman. Welcome Dalvin Tomlinson. So 183 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: we heard just moments ago during your introductory press conference 184 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: you called this week a world win. How surprising? How shocking? 185 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Is it not based off of Hey, you've been in 186 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: the league for a long time. Change is inevitable in 187 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. 188 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. It was surprising, just because, like 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: you know, you never expected to happen to you, but 190 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: it it does. It's like you said, it's the NFL. 191 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: I've been here for a while and I've seen it 192 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: from the outside looking in and definitely been a whirlwind. 193 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: I would say, well, it's the business of the NFL. 194 00:09:59,320 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: Right. 195 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: I mean, there were hard cap decisions that had to 196 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: be made, but you know what, they created an opportunity 197 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: for the Cardinals. Just take it from there. Okay. Once 198 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: Cleveland made its decision, you had to make your decision. 199 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: What was most important to you and how do you 200 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: e g end up reaching you know, Arizona as a destination. 201 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: Just the scheme. I looked into the scheme, I felt 202 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: like I was I would be a good fit in 203 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: the interior of the scheme and making plays, and I 204 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: saw what the Cardinals was trying to build and everything, 205 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: and I just felt like with the culture they already 206 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: have here and the guys they are bringing in is 207 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: a perfect fit from you. 208 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: And you you're familiar with Jonathan Gannett Nick Rolis from Afar. 209 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: You've actually watched this scheme and or those coaches before? 210 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I played against them quite a few 211 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: times over the years and just seeing what they just 212 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: the energy alone they bring and then the energy they 213 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: give to their players, and they respect their players half 214 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,479 Speaker 4: of them as one of those like one of the organizations. 215 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: The coaches make you want to play for them. 216 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: What specifically from watching this defense do you think you 217 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: might have the biggest disruption, whether that's the run or 218 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: the past. 219 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 4: I feel like a little bit of both, especially the 220 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 4: run game, just because the noseguard gets free freed up 221 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: with a lot of one on ones. That's that's very dangerous, 222 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 4: I would say, And I in the past it was 223 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: just the biggest thing is with all the RPOs and 224 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 4: play action passes in the in the game these days, 225 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: I feel like I make a big impact in that field. 226 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier about the pass rush to the media 227 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: that you felt like there was an elevation to your 228 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: pass rush last season. What specifics did you learn or 229 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: did you show out on the football field last year. 230 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: I would say it's mostly technical stuff with hands and feet, 231 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 4: flipping the hips, footwork when you actually flipping in the 232 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 4: hips to make it make you one step quicker, And 233 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 4: just like stopping the run and being disruptive in the 234 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: run game and start with power and go to finesse 235 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: and things like that. No, I went to mix mix 236 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: things up in the pass rush. It just makes me 237 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: feel like I was more versatile last year and I 238 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: was act getting a lot of good hits on quarterbacks 239 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: last year as a big guy. 240 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it says here I'm looking at your analytics. You 241 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: had career highs and quarterback hits, quarterback pressures, quarterback knockdowns. 242 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: Were you getting a little extra attention towards the end 243 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: of the year. Was that showing up on film? 244 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. You know, you only could give 245 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: me so much attention when I had Miles over there 246 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: expecting the same thing with sweating Man. And yeah, you know, 247 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 4: as a big guy, you know, I'm used to double 248 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: teams and stuff like that, and a lot of the 249 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: pass rushes I had when I was getting those hits, 250 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: I was had to defeat double teams, and I felt 251 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 4: like I became more efficient in doing that in the 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 4: past rush as well. 253 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: At the same time, did I see correctly you had 254 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: Arthur Skopignee surgery late July and you didn't even start 255 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: practicing until late August last year. 256 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I had, like, I want to say, two 257 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: practices before their first game. 258 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, so you were able to put up career 259 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: numbers when you weren't exactly one hundred percent to begin 260 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: the season, I would presume. 261 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. 262 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. 263 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Okay, outside of the stats, though, your best ability might 264 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: be availability. How have you at your position been able 265 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: to be so reliable on Sundays. 266 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: You have to take the extra time out throughout the 267 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: weeks and take care of your body. If it's an 268 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: extra time in the training room getting their guns or 269 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: game ready or anything like that, you have to take 270 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: that time out to actually do it, because you know 271 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 4: it's it's a long season. It's a long season, and 272 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: you gotta be available, So you have to make sure 273 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: you stay healthy. 274 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: And you know what, I threw those stats out there, 275 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: but at your position, when you're commanding a double team, 276 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: you're at the epicenter of the D line. I mean, 277 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 3: stats don't always tell the story right as to whether 278 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: you're effective at your job description. So what do you value? 279 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 3: How do how do you assess your own play when 280 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: you're right there, especially when you're playing the nose or 281 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: the three technique one. 282 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: Hundred percent, It's like that's not everything going to interior 283 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: just because like if my biggest thing, if if I 284 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 4: have a defensive end next to me every year it 285 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: gets ten plus sacks, I'm happy because I'm doing my 286 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: job because I'm helping him get up free. So if 287 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: I can help the guys around me be productive and successful. 288 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: I'm doing my job as well. 289 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: What's your favorite play to make? 290 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: Right? 291 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: Football is about making plays. What do you enjoy the most? 292 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: The sack, the tackle for loss, the force fumble, maybe 293 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: putting the center on his keyster. You know what do 294 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 3: you enjoy the most? 295 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: Probably put this in on his keyster and then getting 296 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 4: making one of those other players. I feel like that's 297 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: the bonus right there. And everybody loves the sack, everybody 298 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: loves the TfL. But the force fumbles, I feel like 299 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: a herder the common bat. So if you get like 300 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: a sack fumble or a TfL force fumble or something 301 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: like that, that that's like the pinnacle for me. 302 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Have you thought about the pairing of you inside and Josh, 303 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: what outside of what that dynamic could mean to the 304 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: front seven? 305 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 306 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it could be very dangerous? Is 307 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: the word I would use? Just yeah, you put both 308 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: of us together, It's like the Skys of Limita up 309 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: there up front. 310 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: You mentioned playing for Alabama wearing the red again, right. 311 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: I look at some of the names that were in 312 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: your d line room when you were a Bama Doran 313 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: Paying round one, right, Jonathan Allen, round one then A'shawn Robinson, 314 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: John Reid round two, DeShawn hand round four. I mean, 315 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: those are some big names in the NFL. You guys 316 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: were all in the same d line room at one 317 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: time or another. 318 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was my guys. Man. I love to 319 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: see those guys be successful. John just signed with Minnesota. 320 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: Jay Reid still in Seattle doing going crazy out there. 321 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: And man, you love to see those guys around and 322 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: making plays. And that's the thing at the bed Movie, 323 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: always bouncing out off of each other and helping each 324 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: other get better, just like we do in the league. 325 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 4: So love to see all of us still playing well. 326 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: There is one Alabama gentleman in that Cardinals lockerroom. I've 327 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: got to ask you about Mac Wilson senior. He was 328 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: a freshman when you were a senior. What kind of 329 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: player back then, what kind of a teammate back then? 330 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: And what have you seen from him now with the 331 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals uniform? 332 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love his leadership now. I just he's 333 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: one of those guys. He's like he's like I always 334 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: se him as a little brother's always a younger guy. 335 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: He's one of those younger guys you know, he's gonna 336 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: give it his all to get out there on the 337 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: field and to knock somebody out. Man, he got this 338 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: style of like Ruben Foster coming downhill, ready to hit 339 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: somebody no matter how big or small they are, and 340 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: as a D line and you gotta love that, man. 341 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: And I talked to him about that. I agreed the 342 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: terms and everything, and I know he's super excited because 343 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: I already told him I'm going to help him get 344 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: free a lot more to make more plays. So he's 345 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: super excited about that. 346 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: What do you know about playing D line that you 347 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: can teach a young guy, whether it's Darius Robinson Round 348 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: one pick last year, whether it's an incoming rookie. I mean, 349 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: what do you know with all your experience that you 350 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: might be able to impart, especially initially, do a young 351 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: guy in training camp. 352 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: The biggest thing is, you know, we all compete against 353 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: each other in turning camp for a select few number 354 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: of spots and you know, on the team for most 355 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: most teams. For a young guy would say, yes, we 356 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: compete in training camp, but when the season get here, 357 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: we are a unit. We're only as strong as out week, 358 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: as link up front. It's almost like a fence and 359 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: one of the pieces of fence supposed to goes down. 360 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: That's that's how we can link. So I'm here to 361 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: help you, to help you, make you better, make you 362 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: more plays in the same thing, vice versa, because we 363 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 4: all want to be successful, we all want to make plays. 364 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 4: But I'm going to be just as decided if I 365 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: get a second if you get one. So I'm going 366 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 4: to celebrate with you when you have success as well. 367 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: The coach in that defensive line room brand new, Coach Debo. 368 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: He's just a little bit younger than you are. How 369 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: odd different or being able to be that extension of 370 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: him with your teammates and out on the football field. 371 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was just saying earlier, it's not too 372 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: different for me because I had Alik Terry as an 373 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: assistant D line coach in Minnesota and he's the organ 374 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: O line coach now and he's younger than me, and 375 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 4: I learned a lot from him, And just to have 376 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: Coach Debo in the room the energy I got from 377 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: when I met him, Man, this already is going to 378 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: be a great room. I already know he's going to 379 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: have us right up front, and I'm I'm super looking 380 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 4: forward to just working with him, bouncing ideas off of him, 381 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: saying the way he could bring to my game up front. 382 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 4: So super excited. 383 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of energy in that room. 384 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: There's no doubt from the from the position coach on 385 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: down right. Here's my last question for Dalvin Tomlinson. In 386 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 3: high school, you were a three times state champion wrestler. 387 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: What does that do for you as a defensive lineman? 388 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: I mean, how integral is that to your abilities? Is 389 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: there a lot you take from wrestling that you use 390 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: in football? 391 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 4: I take everything from wrestling, Uh, just leverage, learning how 392 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: to pretty much pit another person against their wheel in 393 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: a certain position on the football field. On the wrestling 394 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 4: matt similar situations, seeing openings when it comes to pass 395 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: rush and even the run game, or certain blocks and 396 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 4: reacting to stuff. Is I feel like I got all 397 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: that from wrestling because you have to react, You have 398 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: to see what opening you could do an ankle pick 399 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 4: or a double leg takedown, or if you're on top 400 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: when you need to chop the elbow and stuff like that. 401 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: So I feel like I took a lot from just 402 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: that one sport. 403 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: You walked into your press conference with a big smile. 404 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: You walked in here studio with a big smile. Is 405 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: there a switch? So when the game starts, when you 406 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: step on that football field, are you still smiling when 407 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: you're competing. 408 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: I feel like. 409 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 4: It is a switch, but I'm definitely always smiling. I 410 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: feel like cause like one of my teammates made to 411 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: make a TfL, I might get a TfL or a 412 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: good hit or something like that. I can't stop smiling. 413 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: I'm always happy, I'm in the zone. And uh, it's 414 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 4: definitely on the field. Is I'm not smiling all the 415 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 4: time though, but it's definitely a switch. I switch when 416 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: I get on the field on the grass. 417 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of Cardinals fans smiling right now, by 418 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: your addition, So welcome to Arizona. 419 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: All right, thank you. 420 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go out on a limpol and 421 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: say that we are all going to enjoy watching and 422 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: listening to Dovin Tomlinson here in twenty twenty five and 423 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: hopefully for years to come. It's not just a two 424 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: year and done out the door, but someone that again 425 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: his production on the field is outstanding, but just a 426 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: fun loving guy, very charismatic and enjoys his life on 427 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: and off the football field. 428 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: When you say you got to include some of his 429 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: teammates as well. H. L. J. Collier in that D 430 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: line room right, has similar energy, great sense of humor. 431 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: Also is a big fan of anime. And then you 432 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: have a Josh Sweat. We just talked to the other day, 433 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: Craig and he's in the building computers, So those guys 434 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: are going to be able to connect immediately. But I 435 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: love some of the comments about how he starts with 436 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: stopping the run, got to earn the right to rush 437 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: the passer. We get all that. Love the fact he's 438 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: a state champion wrestler. What did Roy Lopez have on 439 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: his resume? Three times state champion wrestler? Very interesting when 440 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: you're a nose tackle slash three technique, how many of 441 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: those guys really use that to their advantage right leverage? 442 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: You know, I mean we could have I should have 443 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: asked him. Actually now in hindsight about the tushpush. We'll 444 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: have to talk to him about that, because you know, 445 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: Roy Lopez had had a great philosophy. You know, you 446 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: were close with Roy, and you know when it came 447 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: to the whole tush push and what do you do 448 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: as a defensive lineman and there you are at the 449 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: epicenter of the whole thing. Low Man wins and he 450 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: felt really confident about that as a as a state 451 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 3: champion wrestler. But just what he did from a pass 452 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: rushing standpoint last year in career highs and getting to 453 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: the quarterback, hitting the quarterback, that's intriguing. It really is 454 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: now obviously, and he mentioned it, Miles Garrett gets a 455 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: lot of attention, but you know what, Josh Sweat's gonna 456 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: get a lot of attention. So once again, the quickest 457 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: route to a quarterback A to B straight up the middle. 458 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: And that's what the quarterbacks. Hey, Drew Stanton told us 459 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: that on the big red rage. You know, in the 460 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: whole Santa Claus effect, you don't like it when a 461 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 3: d liman's right in your lap. And Dalvin Thomason has 462 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: been very successful at doing just that. 463 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: I brought up his availability. One hundred and twenty five 464 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: games played, one hundred and twenty five starts. He has 465 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: played at least sixteen games in every season but one, 466 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: and that was twenty twenty two when he played thirteen games. 467 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: So you can rely on him on Sundays. You can 468 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: rely on him being on the football field better than 469 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the defensive snaps, which is going to 470 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: be unusual because again, we don't see very many defensive 471 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: linemen in Cardinals uniforms play that much. But that's what 472 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: he did with the Cleveland Browns, and well, I guess 473 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I have to wait and see if that rotation. They'll 474 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: still rotate, maybe just not as frequently, especially for someone 475 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: as experienced as Dobvin were. Okay, yeah, I'm on the 476 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: football field for that first and second down, maybe even 477 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: that third down because I get used to it and 478 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: I get better as the game goes along a lah 479 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: James Connor who kind of sets things up in the 480 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: first quarter to where he can break something off later 481 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: on in the second half. 482 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: You know, this D line room is really intriguing now, 483 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: presuming everyone's healthy, Justin Jones, Blall Nichols, Darius Robinson, Round 484 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: one pick, Dalvin Thomlinson, LJ Collier, Dante Stills. I mean, 485 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: think of the depth that you have in this D 486 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 3: line room this draft. You know, you're at the combine 487 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: all week. It is its deepest in a long time 488 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: along the defensive line. So the Cardinals is gonna go 489 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: that route in number sixteen. They certainly don't have to. 490 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: Like Mani Ocibor is fond of saying, you know what, 491 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: we like to be able to have a roster going 492 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: into the draft where we can line up and play 493 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: a game. Well, the Cardinals right now, if they go 494 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: elsewhere at sixteen, if they go elsewhere at forty seven, 495 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked. They're pretty stacked right now in 496 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 3: that d line room. So you know, hey, if they 497 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: add yet another guy, guess what, Eagles rode that all 498 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 3: the way to a ring in the Lombardi Trophy, just 499 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: having ways of dudes in the defensive front. But it's 500 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: no longer than necessity. It was a month ago where. 501 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: About six weeks away from the drafts, and you're right, 502 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: you don't want to go into the draft knowing you 503 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: need something in order to be ready week one. So 504 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: with that being said, what's next? What would you like 505 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: to see Moni do ahead of the drafts? You're nots 506 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: pigeon toed into one specific position. And I know the 507 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: reports out there earlier this week that cornerback of Sante 508 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: Samuel Junior visited the Cardinals, someone only played four games 509 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: last season. Because of a shoulder injury. But here's someone 510 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: who's a former fourth round pick four seasons with the Chargers. 511 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: When healthy, he's been very good. Maybe doesn't have that 512 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: size that I know you were talking about earlier this offseason. 513 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: Wanted to see maybe a little bit more physicality out 514 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: of a cornerback, but someone again you're looking to upgrade 515 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: that room, and maybe you take a flyer on someone 516 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: who's coming off an injury riddled season and you catch 517 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle. 518 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he played the first four games last year and 519 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: then he spent the rest of the year on the 520 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: sideline with injury as Sante Samuel Junior. But before that 521 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: he was a starter in every single game of his career. 522 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: Former round two pick, really talented dude, still age twenty five. 523 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: So you can see the Cardinals interest in that. That 524 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 3: position is JG's specialty. He knows exactly what he wants 525 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: in terms of the traits and the skills and the 526 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: mental makeup of cornerbacks. So that's intriguing. We have our 527 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: eye obviously of that one. But if you're giving me 528 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 3: a power pole of needs right now in terms of 529 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: what else might be added at this point, you know, 530 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: a guard, a veteran starting guard, I think is where 531 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: you start. Could that w that b Will Hernandez? We'll 532 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: see middle linebacker? Do the Cardinals have their middle linebacker 533 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 3: right now? Between Mac Wilson, Senior King, Davis Gaythier, you know, 534 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: Michael Walker, don't Zaven Collins. You know, as we break 535 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: out the oven mits for a bit of a. 536 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna write that all the way into the off season. 537 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just all the way name and names, 538 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: But who is your mike linebacker? You know? That would 539 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: be that might be my first question for Jonathan Cannon 540 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: when we meet him again. In terms of media, you know, 541 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 3: wide receiver. They they've addressed a little bit obviously, and 542 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: they've added some depth on the back end of that room. 543 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: But is there a definitive or potential wide receiver too 544 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: incoming via free agency and or the draft. There's still 545 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 3: some pretty big names out there. Maybe the Cardinals are 546 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: waiting for the price to come down in terms of 547 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: veteran established receivers. Maybe I don't expect it. I don't 548 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 3: think it's an urgent need. And then I'll throw out 549 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 3: there safety, what is the future of Jalen Thompson, he 550 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: has the third highest cap number, doesn't have any guaranteed money. 551 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: Does he stick and stay under the current contract? Perhaps 552 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: is there a maneuver there is there a need to 553 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: maybe add some more depth of the safety. If JT 554 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: is not a cardinal this season, and you may not 555 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: know that until training camp, and once again, if he 556 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: plays the entirety of twenty twenty five, I would not 557 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: be shocked whatsoever. But you know, there's the business end 558 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: of this that might still be addressed at some point. 559 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: So we'll see. That's the other position that maybe might 560 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: be on the radar. 561 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: And are you looking to get Rabbit on the field more, 562 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: because when he did play, he was very, very good. 563 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: But it's hard to get that third safety on the 564 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: football field when you like what you have at the 565 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: cornerback position. But when one or both were out talking 566 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: about JT or Buddha, it was Rabbit who was stepped 567 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: out on the football field. And again, someone that was 568 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: not a Day one or Day two pick, came in 569 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: and learned the defense and always was around the football. 570 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: When he wasn't thinking and he was playing. He was 571 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: really effective. Man. We called his name when he was 572 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: in the game. We called his name a lot on 573 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: the Cardinals radio broadcast. I had a chance to spend 574 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 3: five to ten minutes with him late in the season. 575 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 3: It was late December, and he actually literally just sat 576 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: up up on the counter and he sort of reflected, 577 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 3: he really he's mature beyond his ears, but he's also 578 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 3: has the mental acuity and to admit, there was a 579 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: lot he didn't know that the scheme they ran a 580 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: Texas attack radically different than what Nick Ross and Jonathan 581 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 3: Gannon run. And he said, you know, there's a reason 582 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: I sat in the front row of the position room. 583 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: There's a reason why I just I said virtually nothing 584 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: and listened to Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson just talked 585 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 3: football and talk about the scheme, and he spoke of 586 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: how much progress he made mentally, and because he has 587 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: all the explosion and the physical skills, he much in 588 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: the same way you know, Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson are. 589 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: He's a similar body type. And I can see why 590 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: the Cardinals identified him in the draft because he is 591 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 3: that type of safety. And if he's made enough progress mentally, 592 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: you know what, I'd love to see him get a 593 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 3: lot of reps, a lot of snaps in twenty twenty five. 594 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: Is there a want? Is there a need? Defensively offensively? 595 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: I kind of point to where you went as far 596 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: as the offensive line, specifically a guard, whether that's left guard, 597 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: right guard, Evan Brown. Do you stay on the left side, 598 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: you move to the right side because you found someone 599 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: that you want to pair next to. Paris Johnson Junior, 600 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: who knows speaking of once and needs. I know your 601 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: birthday just passed last month. Mine is coming up, Paul, 602 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 1: So if you're looking to get me anything. Probably the 603 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: biggest news though here on this Friday, March fourteenth, Yeah, 604 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior, his uniform is available. MHJ and Fanatics 605 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: settled their legal dispute, meaning number eighteen jerseys are available 606 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: as we speak Azycardinals dot com Forward slash Shop or 607 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: go to Azycardinals dot com and click shop in the 608 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: upper right hand corner, and I am hold that. On 609 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: Saturday at State Farm Stadium at the team shop, you 610 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: can go and pick up your Marvin Harrison Junior number 611 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: eighteen jersey. 612 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a double ding right there. Yeah, I knew 613 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: it was a big deal with fans. When they started 614 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: tweeting me, The news started. 615 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: Tweeting me like I got one this morning too. 616 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: Yes, and you're like, okay, I mean this obviously resonates 617 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: with the Red Sea. I mean, bird Gang is all 618 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: about it, and you know that's human nature, right, you 619 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: want what you can't have. And I haven't been able 620 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: to purchase some Marvin Harrison eighteen jersey. I tell you 621 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: what though, the white especially to me, man is at 622 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: a clean look, right Harrison Junior with the eighteen on it, 623 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: the White Road jersey maybe because it's somewhat akin to 624 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: the Ohio State look, and so they're a little bit 625 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: and it's I'm real curious to see how many of 626 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: those jerseys are going to be in the stands come 627 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: training camp in this season, and knowing how quickly those 628 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: things sold, because we know how that that how quickly 629 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: that can populate a stadium when you get a jersey 630 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: like that and a guy that's that popular, I'd be 631 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: very curious to find that out. 632 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Darren Ravel broke the story earlier this week about MHJA 633 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: and fanatics settling their legal disputes, and according to Darren, 634 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: he estimated that missing that first year after the draft 635 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: and his rookie season. Then Marvin Harrison Junior himself cost 636 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: himself upwards of five hundred thousand dollars in merchandise because 637 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: of this dispute. So that's all behind him. But again, 638 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: that goes to show what fans wanted and that's not 639 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: going to change. If you wanted it, then you're gonna 640 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: want it now, especially now because you've seen him on 641 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: the football field and yeah, maybe he didn't meet expectations, 642 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: but he's not going anywhere and he's only going to 643 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: get better. So get your eighteen jersey right now before 644 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: the season begins. 645 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: And they track this sort of stuff. They have a 646 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: powerpole of best selling jerseys, right I mean, TB twelve 647 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: was the best selling jersey in the NFL for how long, 648 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: So I'm really cy curious. I could see him entering 649 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: the top ten, the top five there, I say, real quickly, 650 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: just because of the suppressed demand over the last year, 651 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: folks weren't able to get what they wanted. 652 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: Again, Paul, it's what I want, so get on it. Well, 653 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: that's it's good. 654 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what Syracuse's track record is against Ohio State, 655 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: you know, but over the years, you know, so I'm 656 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: not sure you really want to bring, you know, any 657 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 3: sort of more attention to that, in particular the whole 658 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: collegiate connection. But okay, yeah, we'll see. If I'm in 659 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: the neighborhood by State Farm Stadium over the weekend, you know, 660 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: we'll go in and maybe I'll see if I can 661 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: get everyone to chip in here in the office place. 662 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: I'm guessing no, go fund me, accountant, Yeah, guessing go 663 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: fund me for Greele New's birthday. That's what it might 664 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: take at this point. 665 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: Well, you've got your assignment for the weekend, Paul, so again, 666 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: get on it and we'll see what happens come next week. 667 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 3: Or maybe I'll just get you what you got me, 668 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: which is Jack to the squad. 669 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: That well, on that note, we'll put a lid on. 670 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: This edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by a Hyundai, 671 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks 672 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Momandre, our associate producer Coddy Fincher. 673 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: For Paul Calvc, I'm Craig Real Lou. We'll talk to 674 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two,