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Speaker 1: said to all the ships at sea. I heard that
Speaker 1: it's the telegraphs to all You said wings and beer,
Speaker 1: and then you said beers and wings. So you'd like
Speaker 1: in the second part of your suggesting that you would
Speaker 1: have multiple beers. Yes, there's always a plural. When you
Speaker 1: have beer, you don't go for You don't say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go for a beer. Would say that you don't
Speaker 1: really mean it though, well you could, but you usually don't.
Speaker 1: You're not hanging with me, all right. So this is
Speaker 1: a podcast where we talk about the Buccaneers primarily, and
Speaker 1: in a little bit we're going to have Pierre desire
Speaker 1: to see her on for us. I'm gonna ask him
Speaker 1: to pronounce his nature because I've heard a bunch of
Speaker 1: different interesting story. Looking forward to talking with him, right
Speaker 1: and we will. We have ten minutes with him, so
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be able to break down all of it.
Speaker 1: But he has a very interesting story. He added, you know,
Speaker 1: he had obstacles, He had tough times in the life,
Speaker 1: in his life and his family's life, and he grew
Speaker 1: up in Haiti. I mean was born in Haiti, immigrated
Speaker 1: here dated four, ended up around St. Louis and some
Speaker 1: hard areas. His parents worked hard to get him out
Speaker 1: of there, and then he became a Him and his
Speaker 1: wife became parents at the age of sixteen. Um which
Speaker 1: if you read about it, obviously that's gonna be tough,
Speaker 1: but it also brought a lot of love in their
Speaker 1: life too, considering he's what thirty two, so that he's
Speaker 1: got three kids. Yeah, and the one that was born
Speaker 1: first is her name is Keeley, and um, obviously the
Speaker 1: family they're in great shape now. But they had to work.
Speaker 1: He had to work very hard, his wife had to
Speaker 1: work very hard to get there. So we'll talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about that. It's hard to cover in ten minutes,
Speaker 1: but just now, it's a guy with a very interesting
Speaker 1: backstory and a guy that made a really big play
Speaker 1: in the last game in his former NFL home. So
Speaker 1: when we're talking about that. But first, it seems weird
Speaker 1: whenever whenever we do this, sometimes we do it on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: sometime on Wednesdays, sometimes Thursday. Whenever we do it on Thursday,
Speaker 1: it almost seems a little weird to talk about the
Speaker 1: last game because we've all kind of moved on from
Speaker 1: the total we're all just talking about everybody's just talking
Speaker 1: about the Falcons and the stretch on and kind of
Speaker 1: all to talk about the indie game was the last
Speaker 1: few days. But I still think we need to touch
Speaker 1: on some things. Yeah, go ahead, First of all, let
Speaker 1: me hear what was your favorite thing the game? Um, Wow,
Speaker 1: there's so many to choose from, but I'm gonna say, uh,
Speaker 1: my favorite thing in the game was Scotty Miller. And
Speaker 1: the reason why is one he got the past interference
Speaker 1: call and then to the hustle on getting the muffed punt.
Speaker 1: I I thought, for someone who hasn't played in for
Speaker 1: a while to hustle like he did, I I enjoyed. Also,
Speaker 1: that's a new role for him, playing the gunner on
Speaker 1: the left side on punts. And he was out there
Speaker 1: and he was consistently getting down the field quick, which
Speaker 1: is why you put him out there because of his speed, right,
Speaker 1: but the returns kept going in the other direction. But
Speaker 1: on this one he was down there so fast that
Speaker 1: he was right there when the guy off the pot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and the thing about this game you you can't
Speaker 1: you have a number of favorite things that you could
Speaker 1: choose from. Leonard four Nette, Well, I'll give you another
Speaker 1: reason to be happy about Scotty, And um, I think
Speaker 1: my favorite thing about that game was in several key moments,
Speaker 1: how great our receivers are blocking, especially to Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: of course, but um there were some moments in that
Speaker 1: game where the blocking of our receivers was critical. One
Speaker 1: of them. Remember the third and eight play with Rob
Speaker 1: Gronkowski and it was around midfield. Um. The pass was
Speaker 1: thrown out to him in the in the right flat,
Speaker 1: but he only maybe three hours past line scrimmage, so
Speaker 1: there was a lot of work still to be done
Speaker 1: for him to get the first down on third and eight.
Speaker 1: And he made in a great individual effort picking the
Speaker 1: right lane and twisting through some tackles and getting past
Speaker 1: the line. But I don't think he would have been
Speaker 1: able to do it alone. Uh, Chris Godwin had a
Speaker 1: great block and Scotty Miller on which we expect to do.
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller got the biggest receiver, great block which created
Speaker 1: a lane for for Gronk to go through, and those
Speaker 1: two blocks were critical on a critical play on the
Speaker 1: Leonard four net game winning touchdown run UM. And I
Speaker 1: thought I liked the way Um Byron left talked about it.
Speaker 1: Talked about it today. Byron said when he was on
Speaker 1: the headset, UH, after they called that plane right before
Speaker 1: the snap, he said, I think we might break this one,
Speaker 1: or I think this one might Gowards. You know, we
Speaker 1: were probably around the twenty eight. We were at the
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Were at the twenty eight, at which point
Speaker 1: it's a forty six year of field goal which Ryan
Speaker 1: suck Up probably gonna make, but you'd like to get
Speaker 1: closer to feel better about it, all right, So you
Speaker 1: call runs, you're running down the clock and you're getting closer. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you probably think, you know, we're gonna get four
Speaker 1: or five yards, hopefully maybe more. But then he season goes,
Speaker 1: we might break this one. Sure enough, he breaks out
Speaker 1: in the open to the left and he gets around
Speaker 1: the corner. And Byron also said when he saw that
Speaker 1: it was Chris Godwin that was down the field blocking,
Speaker 1: he knew they were going to score because god was
Speaker 1: such a good block. So if you've watched that play again, Uh,
Speaker 1: he comes, Leonard Ford comes barreling around the left end,
Speaker 1: starts up field. He's got a full head of steam
Speaker 1: and Godwin is blocking. Uh. Isaiah Rodgers, who whose game
Speaker 1: was not over at that point, there was still another
Speaker 1: big moment for him. But he's blocked him and blocked
Speaker 1: him at the last second. Rod just managed to like
Speaker 1: slide off of him and get in Leonard Foe's path
Speaker 1: and in retrospect, he probably wishes he hadn't because it's
Speaker 1: like sliding over to take a charge. Here comes the truck.
Speaker 1: He had no chance. I don't know if there's a
Speaker 1: dB in the league who could have disengaged from block
Speaker 1: and seconds later stopped Leonard Fournet with a full head
Speaker 1: of team. The second best part about that play is
Speaker 1: that happened right in front of us down because we
Speaker 1: were so high. The press box is very high in
Speaker 1: that stadium, but that particular run was right where we were,
Speaker 1: so we had a great view. But my other when
Speaker 1: you're talking about great blocks and everything, Donovan Smith took
Speaker 1: two guys out on that play, didn't He took two
Speaker 1: guys out on that play. And we had him after
Speaker 1: the game and we kind of brought it up and
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, TJ was like, I I
Speaker 1: think you took two guys out, and there was this
Speaker 1: pause and then Donovan go, yeah I did, and I
Speaker 1: and it was it was absolutely just opened it up.
Speaker 1: He took two guys. He took one out and then
Speaker 1: came back and took the other. So you can't ask
Speaker 1: for more than that. Well, you know, the blocking is
Speaker 1: everything in in the run game. So there you go.
Speaker 1: We tend to go on tangents, so let's go on
Speaker 1: one right here, Smith, Um, I would say, and back
Speaker 1: me up if you think I'm right. That For the
Speaker 1: majority of Donovan Smith's career here, which began when he
Speaker 1: was a second round pick into if you think I'm that,
Speaker 1: usually most people say, you know, back me up if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But go ahead, No, yeah, go ahead, I
Speaker 1: got you. I just like to tell you I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say back me up here, but you can't.
Speaker 1: I can't assume that you're going to agree with me.
Speaker 1: My My basic point was going to be that Donovan
Speaker 1: Smith trapped in the second round. He's been at the
Speaker 1: very least and there's it's a lot more than this.
Speaker 1: He's been an iron man at a critical position. He
Speaker 1: has locked down the left tackle position for almost every
Speaker 1: game and almost every snap over the last seven years.
Speaker 1: Something like that. Now it's hard to believe. So I
Speaker 1: have this is the part I wanted to see, if
Speaker 1: you back me on. I have felt that his story
Speaker 1: for the majority of his career here has been that
Speaker 1: the opinion of him inside the building, coaches, personnel people
Speaker 1: is much higher than what he gets credit for in
Speaker 1: the outside world. Nope, there's been a lot of criticism
Speaker 1: earlier in his career out a lot of outside analysts
Speaker 1: felt he wasn't as good as we felt interior that
Speaker 1: he was. Whoever was right back then. I think it's
Speaker 1: irrelevant now a mood point because and now I think
Speaker 1: he's playing at the highest level of his career and
Speaker 1: I think everybody is recognizing it for whatever reason. There's
Speaker 1: always some players that no matter what they do, they
Speaker 1: get dogged, and then there are other players that you
Speaker 1: know they're good, but they get so much more. Oh,
Speaker 1: the perception of them is and I don't I don't
Speaker 1: understand it because, uh, Donovan is very personable individual. He's
Speaker 1: you know, out there in in the community all these
Speaker 1: things and is like you said, he's been an iron
Speaker 1: man and he's also been good. And now I think
Speaker 1: he's really good and you should vote for him. And
Speaker 1: the problems we stand it's still open right now. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of time to go. O. We stand
Speaker 1: out there on the edge of the practice field in
Speaker 1: the mornings, and the offensive line does their individual drools
Speaker 1: very close to where we are, and so they sometimes
Speaker 1: you know, jokingly say some things to media, but this
Speaker 1: yesterday they were all stumping for Dinovan Smith for the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. And they could do that for any guy. Obviously.
Speaker 1: I think there's a rising opinion that Ali Marpette and
Speaker 1: Tristan Worths are Pro Bowl caliber players. So in our
Speaker 1: offensive line ranks first in the NFL in sacts allowed
Speaker 1: for past play, and so they're doing well. And here's
Speaker 1: the thing too, and I want your opinion on this. Uh,
Speaker 1: Tristan has just been phenomenal from day one, from day one.
Speaker 1: Now would he be that phenomenal if he had come
Speaker 1: in when Donovan came in and the old line was
Speaker 1: not totally there yet? Who knows? I don't know. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying is like sometimes you can come in.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. He's very very good,
Speaker 1: He's great. I have a feeling he would have succeeded. Yeah, probably,
Speaker 1: but he maybe Donovan had to grow into it a
Speaker 1: little bit. And and like you said, there wasn't as
Speaker 1: much talent up front, and he and Ali were are
Speaker 1: he stepped into the starting lineup. That's what I'm about.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're better now than they were then. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But in any case, I do feel like the public
Speaker 1: perception of donalson Donovan Smith this season, maybe last season,
Speaker 1: has caught up a little bit about how he's valued
Speaker 1: with how he's valued, and now you just have you
Speaker 1: can look at it and go. Tom Brady gets to
Speaker 1: play with two really good offensive tackles who were having
Speaker 1: great seasons. Yes, I'm totally bad and that player. You're
Speaker 1: never gonna get me to agree with you more than
Speaker 1: right now. Well, part of it was where you agree
Speaker 1: with me that he was undappreciated or at least the
Speaker 1: perception of him was different, and I never understood, you know,
Speaker 1: and another guy that I thought also, you know when
Speaker 1: you say that there just seems to be like I thought,
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy in his earlier years took a lot of
Speaker 1: heat even because I think what happens is you you
Speaker 1: are expected to replace someone and be Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: also made like six Pro Bowls. Yeah yeah, but but
Speaker 1: but there were people out there who didn't think he
Speaker 1: was deserving and I always disagreed with that too. So hopefully, uh,
Speaker 1: we can get Donovan into the Pro Bowl. That would
Speaker 1: be nice. I think I think it would mean a
Speaker 1: lot to him because it's it's been like seven years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um yeah. And the Pro Bowl voting right now, don't
Speaker 1: read too much into it. I think you've seen. It's
Speaker 1: only the fan voting going on right now. If you
Speaker 1: don't know, the Pro Bowl players are chosen in what
Speaker 1: b A says as a flawed system. And I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with thirds, the third counting each of fan voting,
Speaker 1: coach voting, and player voting. And theoretically what happens is
Speaker 1: whatever the fan vote is creates a ballot that's you know,
Speaker 1: one ballot, and then each also for the coach and
Speaker 1: the players, and then they're merged. Last year, as an example,
Speaker 1: we just looked at this today. Around this time, we
Speaker 1: had three guys that were leading their their spots in
Speaker 1: and voting among the fan votes. We had another one
Speaker 1: who was second, and then Jason Pierre Paul or a
Speaker 1: couple more than our second. And then Jason Pierre Paul
Speaker 1: was running third at his position. Well you know what
Speaker 1: happened only Jason Pierre Paul maybe bowl, So don't put
Speaker 1: much stock into that. Um, it is going to be now.
Speaker 1: And then the Buckaners won the Super Bowl and tied
Speaker 1: the Giants of I don't remember which year. As the
Speaker 1: only teams to win the Super Bowl to have one
Speaker 1: or fewer Pro Bowlers, which was just an indication of
Speaker 1: how deep the town was and how underappreciated some of
Speaker 1: our guys. And and it'll be interesting to see now
Speaker 1: if they get that Super Bowl bump and guys that
Speaker 1: we're great players that were absolutely crucial to us winning
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, like Ali mar Pett and all those
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and Devin White and Lavante David. Are they
Speaker 1: going to get recognition this time around? Usually that's what happens.
Speaker 1: Usually it's the year previously. It was funny last year
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady didn't make the Pro Bowl after throwing
Speaker 1: fortydown passes, and his name is Tom Brady. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen again. Well, it was at ninety
Speaker 1: nine the year that gosh, we sent like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: eight players was I mean, there is Trent, and there
Speaker 1: is you know, Tony Mayberry. Guys that we sent ten
Speaker 1: one year I said, and I think we said eight
Speaker 1: and ninety seven when they we had to break through
Speaker 1: year Trent was on at that Trent Dilford, which which
Speaker 1: maybe this is the year that that happens and it
Speaker 1: could be, you know, would be nice, It would be
Speaker 1: you get some recognition. I totally it's the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: in Orlando, still, I think, so I can't happen. Last
Speaker 1: year I kind of checked out when they quit quitting
Speaker 1: it in Hawaii because I know I loved why you
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl and you know how much
Speaker 1: fun that is. I know I did, like gosh, so
Speaker 1: um a little more from the Indie game. Um oh,
Speaker 1: maybe it's in Vegas. Really that because I've never been
Speaker 1: to Vegas. I think maybe they gave it. Maybe they
Speaker 1: I think I think they want to do it in Vegas.
Speaker 1: But you know that's that's horrible. We don't know where
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I got my computer right here. You
Speaker 1: want me to look it up? You use your little
Speaker 1: tiny computer there, So I'll talk about something while you're
Speaker 1: doing that. Um, Mike Edwards, as I said, that corner
Speaker 1: that got trucked by four net on the touchdown, his
Speaker 1: name's Isaiah Rodgers. And that was not the end of
Speaker 1: his story for that night because with there were twenty
Speaker 1: seconds left on the clock and there you know, coach
Speaker 1: Arians brought up after the game that if he he
Speaker 1: kind of regretted not telling guys to kneel if they
Speaker 1: got near the end zone right taking e because for
Speaker 1: net put us up thirty at thirty one, but there
Speaker 1: was twenty seconds left. If you go down at the two,
Speaker 1: you can run the clock down to one second, pick
Speaker 1: the field goal, and then there's the game's over. I
Speaker 1: get that, and I know that works time. It still
Speaker 1: would scare me because, like if he scores, we know
Speaker 1: we got the touchdown. If you make a kick a
Speaker 1: field goal, maybe there's a bad snap, maybe it slips
Speaker 1: through Bradley Pinion's fingers, so I'll take the touchdown. But
Speaker 1: in any case, twenty six left on the clock, they
Speaker 1: had one time out. They have to get a touchdown
Speaker 1: on a field goal. Obviously, do you already have the answer?
Speaker 1: Do you want to let me know? Okay? Uh? I
Speaker 1: was right. So the Bucks probably don't have much to
Speaker 1: worry about. They've got to go the length of the field.
Speaker 1: And so Bradley Pinion had kicked every kickoff into the
Speaker 1: end zone, all for touchbacks in his first six which
Speaker 1: is what he usually does. Sure, he kicks this one
Speaker 1: four yards deep in the end zone, But because they
Speaker 1: had nothing to lose, they run it out and it's
Speaker 1: the same guy as they Rodgers on the return, and
Speaker 1: boy does he find a seam to the He does
Speaker 1: a little counter. He starts a little bit to his
Speaker 1: right and encounters to the left and gets through a
Speaker 1: gap and then he's out on the open. We're all terrified,
Speaker 1: and uh, Mike Edwards was playing the They called the
Speaker 1: outside guys. You know, you got eleven guys lined up
Speaker 1: with the kicker into the old five on each side.
Speaker 1: They call the outside guys safeties on that in that
Speaker 1: from kickoff coverage. So my Edwards is the safety on
Speaker 1: the left side are our left side, but the right
Speaker 1: side of the return team the return goes the other way.
Speaker 1: But as the guy on that side, your first job
Speaker 1: is to keep your lane and make sure you don't
Speaker 1: leave the end open. So if it reverses around your way,
Speaker 1: you're so he can't he can't start going over too soon.
Speaker 1: But then if he gets he's written down to about
Speaker 1: the their thirty when it's clear that the returns going
Speaker 1: the other way, so his best thing to do is
Speaker 1: go in that direction. And then as he starts going
Speaker 1: horizontally across the field, Roger starts breaking through and so
Speaker 1: now Edwards changes his angle and is running back down
Speaker 1: towards the buck sideline, but at an angle that he
Speaker 1: hopes can intercept the guy. Right, because he got past
Speaker 1: every everybody else. Everybody else. Okay, Patrick O'Connor was coming in,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he could match the speed of
Speaker 1: this guy. And Giovanni Bernard was a few steps behind,
Speaker 1: and Uh Edwards manages to make it there and actually
Speaker 1: almost overshoots it. The guy make a little move underneath them,
Speaker 1: but he grabs. He's able to grab him with his
Speaker 1: left arm as he goes by and spin him out
Speaker 1: of bounds. Awesome play, right. I did some next Gin
Speaker 1: looking up on that to write an article about it,
Speaker 1: and Mike Edwards ran reached the top speed of twenty
Speaker 1: nine miles per hour on that play as he was
Speaker 1: pursuing the guy, and after the game, coach Arians just
Speaker 1: anecdotally had said that was the fastest Mike has run
Speaker 1: all year. I don't know if Bruce Arians knows about
Speaker 1: next Gen stats or cares about him, but but they
Speaker 1: proved he was right. I looked it up. That was
Speaker 1: the fastest he has run at any point this season. Now,
Speaker 1: how fast was the returner running twenty one point three
Speaker 1: nine was his top, which was faster than Mike, but
Speaker 1: Mike at the end. So Mike, it's like you see
Speaker 1: the figures floating in front of your eyes and space.
Speaker 1: It's like you're a beautiful mind here. Um he so
Speaker 1: he um. I lost my trade thought. He also ran
Speaker 1: one point eight yards on the play because of all
Speaker 1: the looping around, farthest he's run on any play this season.
Speaker 1: So to save the game, Mike Edwards had run farther
Speaker 1: and faster than he has at any point this season,
Speaker 1: and he did it. Were you just like shaking your
Speaker 1: head when it was going on? Well, to me, it
Speaker 1: was like in slow motion. I was in an elevator
Speaker 1: with a little TV in the corner, uh, and like
Speaker 1: what is going on? And Jeff, okay, so we're going
Speaker 1: down the elevator. We're getting you. As you said, the
Speaker 1: prespect was on the top level. Get on the elevator.
Speaker 1: And I don't where these guys came from because we
Speaker 1: were already on the top level. But whatever, weren't we
Speaker 1: on the top Lew was one of bumps. We were
Speaker 1: on the top level anyway, I'm on the only thing
Speaker 1: higher than us were the girders I'm on the elevator
Speaker 1: writing down. There's about five people, most of the media,
Speaker 1: and there's a person running the elevator. And then there's
Speaker 1: this kind of uh, shady looking guy in a Colts jersey,
Speaker 1: skinny little guy, uh, you know, just looking a little shitty,
Speaker 1: and he's having some kind of problem. He's wretching and
Speaker 1: he's coughing, and he's turning towards the back of the
Speaker 1: elevator and making a lot of really bad noises, and
Speaker 1: everybody's going, are you okay? Are you okay? I mean,
Speaker 1: it became pretty clear that he was just really drunk.
Speaker 1: And then he took a call and was like talking
Speaker 1: at a high volume of blah blah. I left to
Speaker 1: get the car, blah blah blah whatever, right, which is
Speaker 1: a scary thought. But um so, nobody's paying any attention
Speaker 1: to TV. You're in a public elevator. No, the elevator
Speaker 1: down for me, but there were there were there were
Speaker 1: sweets around there too. It was probably something and had
Speaker 1: a few too many and was trying really hard not
Speaker 1: to throw up in the elevator, which I appreciated, succeeded.
Speaker 1: He got off on street level and then we continued down,
Speaker 1: But my point being that was distracting, and nobody was
Speaker 1: looking at the TV. And I look up and I
Speaker 1: see that guy run him. I'm trying to think, is
Speaker 1: that a replay? Is that replay? Is that happening right now?
Speaker 1: And I realized it's happening right now, and I might
Speaker 1: be witnessing the most amazingly terrible moments since maybe Indianapolis
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three. An elevator and I'm in
Speaker 1: an elevator and I'm gonna get down the press box
Speaker 1: for I mean the press count's room expecting to have
Speaker 1: this happy press convarts. I'm have to sit down there
Speaker 1: during the overtime to see if we win or not.
Speaker 1: But fortunately Mike Edwards saved the day, and then Pierre,
Speaker 1: who we talked to save the day. I was and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him about this. I was scared. On
Speaker 1: both of those last two plays. They ran one play,
Speaker 1: there was a vote to David broke up with a
Speaker 1: nice play and covering Jack Doyle, and then they were
Speaker 1: intercepted it too. They were down to their last five
Speaker 1: or ten seconds at time for one play, and Carson
Speaker 1: wants to scrambles around and even though the play was
Speaker 1: from the thirty two. By the time he scrambles around,
Speaker 1: he's making a pretty deep throw, throws it up towards
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Jr. Son of former buckaneer Michael Pittman. And
Speaker 1: what you need to know about Michael Pittman is that
Speaker 1: he's very big, and he's very physical, and he's very
Speaker 1: good at jump balls. And we've got to jump all
Speaker 1: situation coming here, and Pierre Desier is there and he
Speaker 1: makes it happen and he managed to jump. What I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of both those plays, especially the second one, was
Speaker 1: no dp I, no dp I, no DPI. Considering that
Speaker 1: there were a number of flags thrown for there were
Speaker 1: there was a very important one for the Bucks to
Speaker 1: actually so anyway, he didn't. He clearly didn't do anything
Speaker 1: that could have been considered past interference and the game
Speaker 1: was over. But that's what scared me, because you can't
Speaker 1: end the game him on a defensive penalty. So if
Speaker 1: he got dp I at the one, which is where
Speaker 1: he caught it, there would have been an untime down
Speaker 1: from the two. Yeah, well, they kept Michael Pittman Jr.
Speaker 1: In check Considering that um Winfield Jr. Made an awesome
Speaker 1: awesome play. Michael Pittman is listed as six ft two
Speaker 1: or six ft four. I think Anton Winfield is five nine.
Speaker 1: Keep that in mind when you are pictures there. Well,
Speaker 1: there is a picture of of um of them together,
Speaker 1: and how high he's actually jumping compared to where where
Speaker 1: Pittman's feet are compared to Winfield Junior's feet is unbelieved.
Speaker 1: Pittman kind of lost the ball a little bit and
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out where it was. And I
Speaker 1: don't think he even jumped. That's that is a hard catch.
Speaker 1: I don't care the fact that he had his back
Speaker 1: to it and catch it over his shoulder like it
Speaker 1: was such good body control because he knew where the
Speaker 1: ball was and Pittman didn't, and he leaped up and
Speaker 1: he somehow kept his body off Pittman and just kind
Speaker 1: of reached over him crazy and snagged it and pauled
Speaker 1: it back down and landed and then was able to
Speaker 1: go from Yeah, both um, both Bruce Arians and somebody
Speaker 1: else that came in to the press conferences room after
Speaker 1: the game said it was one of the most amazing
Speaker 1: picks they've ever seen. And then Rob Gronkowski and I
Speaker 1: like this. I like Rob Gronkowski without being asked. He
Speaker 1: was asked about Winfield, but not in this He said
Speaker 1: he thinks he's like the most underrated player on the team.
Speaker 1: I could, I could agree, I could. I think antoin
Speaker 1: Field's teams really value what he does. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like what happens is when you do that stuff,
Speaker 1: it just becomes the norm. You know, it's crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it should lose the wile factor, but he's
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. You know. He did a lot of that
Speaker 1: in college though, so maybe that's yeah, he would. He's
Speaker 1: internal for Magnet. Yeah, he's he should be a big
Speaker 1: play guy for us for a long time to go. Um.
Speaker 1: Weird thing from that game not not besides the elevator ride.
Speaker 1: So they were okay. Indianapolis was I think five of
Speaker 1: eleven on third downs, but they were all of five
Speaker 1: on five tries that needed five yards or on however
Speaker 1: may tries they had that needed five yards or less.
Speaker 1: But they also converted four of them that needed ten
Speaker 1: or more yards. We were playing really good third down
Speaker 1: defense except when it was third and really long. I
Speaker 1: hated it because every time it was third and long,
Speaker 1: I'd think to myself, oh great. One was the scramble
Speaker 1: in this It's got when you're when you're rooting for
Speaker 1: the defense, it's gonna be one of the most frustrating
Speaker 1: things to watch. When you've got them pinned third and long,
Speaker 1: you get a good pass rush, the coverage is good downfield,
Speaker 1: and the quarterback starts to run and then you look
Speaker 1: because you can see from up above, and you can go,
Speaker 1: oh man, there's nothing but open field in front of
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, as soon as he broke out,
Speaker 1: you're like, here we go. There's no way we can
Speaker 1: stop him. Don't make it. So that was disheartening. Uh,
Speaker 1: but there were a number of others that were just
Speaker 1: picking up blitzes and and making quick for and accurate
Speaker 1: throws by Carson went So I think that's the thing
Speaker 1: he did best in that game, was he made nice,
Speaker 1: accurate throws when he had to get rid of all question.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny as you're talking about this. Yesterday
Speaker 1: on the NFL network, the game ran again and so
Speaker 1: I watched it, and um, the more I was watching it,
Speaker 1: the more I was thinking, Wow, this Colts team is
Speaker 1: really really good. I thought they were good before, but
Speaker 1: after seeing them in person and then rewatching it. That's
Speaker 1: a good football team. That's that's quality win that they
Speaker 1: were good. They do in five of their last six.
Speaker 1: They just want to add Buffalo. How does that happen?
Speaker 1: That we've been talking about this all year? You can't
Speaker 1: make sense of any of it. I think Tom Brady
Speaker 1: said it really well today during his press conference. He
Speaker 1: said the talent is so good in the NFL. Any
Speaker 1: team can win a game, but it's how you put
Speaker 1: it all together to keep winning winning well. He also
Speaker 1: said even a very talented team could go eight and eate.
Speaker 1: What you need in order to have a talented team
Speaker 1: but have a really good record by the end of
Speaker 1: the year. Is everybody committing, all the players committing to
Speaker 1: each other. That's what he said. And who's gonna argue
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady? Well, that's what I'm saying. But it's
Speaker 1: like when he just said that, you know, a team
Speaker 1: could win on a you know, one game or and
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're seeing in in this year
Speaker 1: more than ever, is that teams bow up on one
Speaker 1: game and just really make it happen. Um. But hey,
Speaker 1: it was a quality win. I started to think the
Speaker 1: team needed it. I think I think the Bucks needed
Speaker 1: to win like this against team It was a really
Speaker 1: it was kind of a weird game, don't forget. In
Speaker 1: Indianapolis didn't get a first down until two and a
Speaker 1: half minutes into the second quarter. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 1: put points on the board and they went nuts for like,
Speaker 1: they scored twenty one points in the third quarter. Uh.
Speaker 1: Somebody had looked up um. I can't remember who told
Speaker 1: me this note yesterday. It was probably great alman um
Speaker 1: that in twenty two previous times when you we'd ever
Speaker 1: allowed one points in the second quarter, we lost all
Speaker 1: of Oh yeah, the first time we've ever overcome twenty
Speaker 1: points allowed in the second quarter, you know that. Don't
Speaker 1: forget also that the Colts. The Colts started the game
Speaker 1: their first drive on the Bucks thirty nine because of
Speaker 1: a bad offensive series and a penalty and a shankd punt,
Speaker 1: So they were on our thirty nine and they got
Speaker 1: three points, no first down, three points. That's big. I mean,
Speaker 1: other than some third down plays that extended drives in
Speaker 1: a couple of fourth towns as well, the Bucks defense
Speaker 1: played pretty well. Yeah. I was having this discussion and
Speaker 1: even though the game wasn't going Uh, the way Buck
Speaker 1: fans would want it to. At no point did I
Speaker 1: think we were out of it or we were gonna
Speaker 1: lose the game for whatever reason. I just thought they're
Speaker 1: gonna come back. They're gonna come back. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was kind of uh, I was kind of fifty
Speaker 1: at half time. I didn't feel like the game was lost,
Speaker 1: But I think we can't really afford to keep making mistakes.
Speaker 1: I guess Leonard four Net just had a heck of
Speaker 1: a halftime speech. Yeah, that's right. He said he gave
Speaker 1: a half times. Yeah, and you know, I guess it's
Speaker 1: guys just stepping up when they need to and well,
Speaker 1: and you have to. I mean he got four touchdowns
Speaker 1: jeeze record right. So hey, Jeff, do you know that
Speaker 1: was the third best Fantasy game ever by a Bucks player? Uh? No,
Speaker 1: I you know, if you bring up fantasy. After I
Speaker 1: was watching the NFL or Our game, I was finishing
Speaker 1: up in my office and I looked up and there's
Speaker 1: a fantasy show starting, and I was, you know what,
Speaker 1: you've been bad? Not bad? Well, yeah, I'm not a
Speaker 1: fan of fantasy. I don't, so I decided that I
Speaker 1: am going to watch this. I'm going to watch this program,
Speaker 1: and as I watched it, I'm thinking, why am I
Speaker 1: watching this? It's people going, well, you know, I've got
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and I've got I'm going how hard is that?
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, you're doing a full TV show and
Speaker 1: you're telling me like, perhaps you should have Tom Brady
Speaker 1: on your fantasy team. I don't need to watch that.
Speaker 1: I can figure that out on my own, so I'm
Speaker 1: not really I guess I don't. I'm going to try it, though,
Speaker 1: I really am. I don't know why, Well, because we
Speaker 1: don't need your job. There must be something to it,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's like you know, I know people who
Speaker 1: it's like, it's like sweet potatoes. As a kid, I
Speaker 1: never ate sweet potatos. Added as an adult, I tried
Speaker 1: them and I went, wow, these are really good. So
Speaker 1: maybe I should try a fantasy to see I don't
Speaker 1: like sweet potatoes and I still don't like them. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think next year I'm going to ask you
Speaker 1: to let me in one of your fantasy leagues and
Speaker 1: see what I can do. Well, yeah, I'd be happy
Speaker 1: to play it. It's like when you it's like when
Speaker 1: somebody wants to join your game, and you know they've Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, if I go by the color of the
Speaker 1: helmets and win, you will just be furious. Jeff, I
Speaker 1: don't like those shows either. I don't like pregame shows
Speaker 1: and a lot of fantasy shows. Um, strike me. You
Speaker 1: like the pregame show, you're on? Strike me. I have
Speaker 1: mem and TV shows oh yeah, strike me as um
Speaker 1: kind of pointless to watch because they're telling you who's
Speaker 1: better this week. But you've drafted your team back in August,
Speaker 1: you have who you have, You're you're playing your guys
Speaker 1: that I would tell you the reason yet, And I
Speaker 1: don't do this type of fantasy football. It has no interest,
Speaker 1: does not interest me at all. And also as an
Speaker 1: INFO ploy employee, I'm not allowed to. You can play
Speaker 1: in a regular fantasy league, and I think as long
Speaker 1: as you don't have pads more than like that. So
Speaker 1: I can play. I'm allowed to without getting in trouble
Speaker 1: with my job. I can play fantasy football. I cannot
Speaker 1: play daily fantasy and I don't want to play. But
Speaker 1: in daily fantasy football, each week you can choose whoever
Speaker 1: you want because in in a draft league, you draft
Speaker 1: your guys back in like August or and if you
Speaker 1: took Tom Brady. I can't take time because you've already
Speaker 1: got him. But in this these type of shows, they're
Speaker 1: telling you because of these factors, Dak Prescott's should be
Speaker 1: really good this week because these factors. Or they tell
Speaker 1: you about injuries, you solved the mystery. Or they tell you, okay,
Speaker 1: your guy got hurt, Ceedee Lamb isn't gonna play this week.
Speaker 1: So is there another receiver I can use instead that
Speaker 1: wouldn't already be on the team, And they tell you
Speaker 1: who to look for. I told you you made everything.
Speaker 1: The light just went on in my head. Now I
Speaker 1: understood what they were talking about. I don't think you
Speaker 1: should enjoy it. But because I was thinking, well, you
Speaker 1: drafted your players, why would you do? But I didn't
Speaker 1: realize there was well you do conceivably you have a
Speaker 1: you have a bench. So if you have two guys
Speaker 1: that you like and you can only start one tight end,
Speaker 1: they might tell you, hey, you start this guy. Sure, Okay,
Speaker 1: so alright, that makes sense, Okay, I get Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Doug Martin had a UM had the big day in Oakland.
Speaker 1: That's the best Fantasy day and team history with the
Speaker 1: four touchdowns and two two or fifty yards. And then
Speaker 1: there's a Mike Evans game, maybe it was against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Did Cadillac Williams Yeah, did Caddy have a great game
Speaker 1: in Minnesota? Yeah, but it wasn't one of our top
Speaker 1: ten fantasies. Uh, there's a Mike Evans game with three
Speaker 1: touchdowns on yards against somebody Pittsburgh that that second but
Speaker 1: any sure, that is definitely a tangent because I wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to talk about fantasy. We were talking about, um,
Speaker 1: how great Leonard Fournette was. And also, and this is
Speaker 1: the second week in a row that this has happened,
Speaker 1: Rojo has looked good in the in the bits of
Speaker 1: time to these halts. I like how they're mixing it
Speaker 1: up now. I liked because they're different runners, they're different
Speaker 1: cell running so well, I think when Rojo gets in
Speaker 1: the game, he runs hard. So if um, he's done
Speaker 1: really well, you know, he ends up with maybe thirty
Speaker 1: seven yards on five carriage or something, which doesn't blow
Speaker 1: you away when you look at the statue, but you're
Speaker 1: able to give Leonard to rest and Rojo still does
Speaker 1: a good job. And you know they gave the ball
Speaker 1: to Rojo once of the goal line and he punched
Speaker 1: it in. Leonard himself said after the game that about
Speaker 1: that that he said, yeah, I was fresher at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. He's talking about the last run
Speaker 1: because they're being able to get Rojo involved in all right,
Speaker 1: So that's a good thing. Yes, I mean that's what
Speaker 1: you and I like what Bruce Arian said long ago.
Speaker 1: You can't have too many good running backs, so and
Speaker 1: in that instance, you you have to have at least
Speaker 1: two and two that you believe been and not just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we can go this way. I think I think
Speaker 1: we're in good shape there. Yeah, there's gonna be some
Speaker 1: decisions to make at the end of this year, though, Josh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the end of the year. Is
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones could have a big big They're all coming
Speaker 1: to the ends of their contracts. Do you have any Bernard,
Speaker 1: I yeah, I am. I read the I read the
Speaker 1: You're gonna see how I put this all together. I
Speaker 1: read the book Season in the Sun. I read that season.
Speaker 1: This is Season in the Sun with Lars Anderson. It
Speaker 1: is the Bruce arians story about um Tom Brady coming
Speaker 1: to the Buccaneers in the Super Bowl year and having
Speaker 1: lived it. But in in there it talks about Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournette being cut. How how he drives in thinking it's
Speaker 1: a typical day at six thirty in the morning, walks
Speaker 1: in and gets cut by the by Jacksonville, has a
Speaker 1: number of different places to go, he chooses to come here.
Speaker 1: He realizes he's not being the starter, little pouty. How
Speaker 1: Bruce Arian sits down with him, says, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 1: need you. Look what happens, and what makes me think
Speaker 1: about is that here's a team that gives up on
Speaker 1: a guy and he comes here and by coaching he
Speaker 1: develops a really great attitude. And you're now talking about
Speaker 1: we got some major decisions to make because at the
Speaker 1: end of this year he could he could go for
Speaker 1: a big contract, which it's your environment sometimes and not
Speaker 1: just the player. So I thought that was read Season
Speaker 1: in the Sun by Lars Anderson. Did you read that
Speaker 1: in one weekend and it took less than two days.
Speaker 1: It's a fast read. Um, we need to move on.
Speaker 1: I think I got a few more notes on this
Speaker 1: shirt any game before we packed away from it. Um,
Speaker 1: because I want to talk a little bit about the
Speaker 1: Panthers and the Saints too. One thing, um we're trying
Speaker 1: to I think the turning point in the game was
Speaker 1: the strip strip sack by Shack, who the way has
Speaker 1: more strip sacks since he got here than any other
Speaker 1: player in the least see and there's another play that.
Speaker 1: There are so many turning points, but that was that
Speaker 1: set the tone. So here's here's how I got the trifect.
Speaker 1: Here's how I look at the game. You mean he
Speaker 1: could force the phone, got the sack, force phone, cover
Speaker 1: the phone. Buckaneers scored to make it seventeen fourteen. There's
Speaker 1: two there's there's like three minutes left. So that's good.
Speaker 1: I feel good considering how things were going. I feel
Speaker 1: good if we go into the halftime and that's when
Speaker 1: they put together that long drive that include several long
Speaker 1: throw dunk versions. It was weird, Jeff. That was basically
Speaker 1: a two minute drill that had fourteen plays. It was
Speaker 1: a four team play like two minute drive. That is weird.
Speaker 1: When when that when that started, Jane made a comment
Speaker 1: that this two minutes could take ten minutes, and it did,
Speaker 1: and it did, and we we were like so mad
Speaker 1: at him. At half time, we told him, you cannot
Speaker 1: say that anymore. He was right. Yeah, So, uh, they's
Speaker 1: went down and scored on the fourth down play, and
Speaker 1: then I'm thinking, well, that's bad. Plus they get the
Speaker 1: ball to start and sure enough they're driving again. They're
Speaker 1: driving down the field. And then the other turnover, which
Speaker 1: was who cost it? Levant they recovered it? Was it
Speaker 1: Mike Edwards? You mean punching the ball out? Yeah? Who?
Speaker 1: We were forced? Or was that the winfield interception? In
Speaker 1: any case, I should bring the game book with us. No, no,
Speaker 1: because it's four days. No, it's what I was just saying.
Speaker 1: It's the strip sack. So they have a chance to
Speaker 1: do the whole score at the end of the first
Speaker 1: half in the beginning of the second half, and if
Speaker 1: they had scored on that drive, it would have been
Speaker 1: thirty one to fourteen. And then at that point you
Speaker 1: have to admit you would have been thinking it was
Speaker 1: a bad So the strip sacked by Shack stopped that,
Speaker 1: and then all the momentum switched and the Buccaneers finally
Speaker 1: find themselves up something yeah because it waste yeah, sow
Speaker 1: four and then we added a field goal, and then
Speaker 1: they had the game drive um and then we had
Speaker 1: disappointing when they had the game time. But I did
Speaker 1: look at the person next to me goes, well, hey,
Speaker 1: there's three minutes left. It was like three minutes left.
Speaker 1: I think three or five minutes left. I'm like, that's all.
Speaker 1: As they were driving down, it kind of felt inevitable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it felt like the previous long drive at to be
Speaker 1: at the end of the second half. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I think, I just hope they get in score quickly.
Speaker 1: We still got three minutes and we've got Tom Brady
Speaker 1: get sure enough. That's what happened, with a little bit
Speaker 1: of extra tension at the end. Couple of um we
Speaker 1: have only five. Now you've noticed, and we've talked about
Speaker 1: how the way defenses have been playing us, especially the
Speaker 1: last few weeks with so many two high safety shells.
Speaker 1: So the soft zones that we have adjusted by throwing
Speaker 1: just a lot of underneath passes, and it's working. It's
Speaker 1: working fine. We are not getting the opportunity. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of double coverage with the safety on Mike and Chris,
Speaker 1: especially Mike, and so we're not getting a lot of
Speaker 1: opportunities to throw the ball down the field. We only
Speaker 1: have five completions of twenty or more yards in the
Speaker 1: last two games, four of them by Grock. How important
Speaker 1: hasn't been? Like Rock is back, We're a different team.
Speaker 1: If we had not had Rock to these last two
Speaker 1: games and the way the teams played us, we would
Speaker 1: have much bigger struggle trying to make it work this way.
Speaker 1: He is the key to this offense against how difference
Speaker 1: does the team play with and then Sean Murphy bunting
Speaker 1: back in that has definitely helped, for sure, I mean it,
Speaker 1: But then Jamal went didn't danteam unfortunately. Day zero was
Speaker 1: everyone yeah they boy are are aren't? Yeah? It'll be
Speaker 1: nice when everybody's back, when everybody's back, and play like
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna play. During training, Carlton Davis said
Speaker 1: today he felt really confident that he'd be able to
Speaker 1: play if they activate him. So that's good. He's on
Speaker 1: that twenty one day. Anthony Nelson has five quarterback hits
Speaker 1: in his last three games. I thought he had a
Speaker 1: good game. That's kind of you know, he doesn't get
Speaker 1: a ton of snap. So the five quarterback hits in
Speaker 1: the last three games, he had zero before that, and
Speaker 1: he's taking advantage of when he's in. He's coming up
Speaker 1: a little bit. And then Kevin Mentor looked good when
Speaker 1: he had to play for Devin White. He always does,
Speaker 1: but I specifically was watching on someplace. Sony's doing a
Speaker 1: good job out there. All right, do you got anything
Speaker 1: more about that game? No? Yeah, we won. Let's talk
Speaker 1: just a little bit about um the ning. The only
Speaker 1: thing I gotta say about that game is that um,
Speaker 1: with all due respect, the press block food was a
Speaker 1: little issue, but that's a whole other story. And that
Speaker 1: wasn't that wasn't good. We're spoiled. I think the Bucks
Speaker 1: have ever Raymond James Stadium. It doesn't get any better
Speaker 1: than that. Go ahead, UM, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the NFC stut just a little bit before we get
Speaker 1: to our guests, because the buckanty. Okay, So when we
Speaker 1: lost at New Orleans, that was bad, and it made
Speaker 1: us tied with New Orleans for first and division. Didn't
Speaker 1: make us five and two five and two, and now
Speaker 1: we're tied with the Saints. And since then, the Saints
Speaker 1: have lost four in a row and they're going to
Speaker 1: take some hill now tonight to maybe see if they
Speaker 1: can do something about that. And the Buccaneers have won
Speaker 1: three or So who do you were for as a
Speaker 1: Buck fan in case what tonight? Well, New Orleans Dallas. See,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna hear this after the game, but who
Speaker 1: should you have rooted rooted for for us between New
Speaker 1: Orleans and Dallas. I think I was actually thinking about
Speaker 1: this earlier, and I was I was glad I didn't
Speaker 1: have to write about it. I would just curious. I
Speaker 1: think I want Dallas to win. First of all, what
Speaker 1: you can do in those situations before even trying to
Speaker 1: um figured out logically, just close your us for a
Speaker 1: second and just think, who do I want to see lose?
Speaker 1: Do do it emotionally? Oh? I want the Saints to lose, man,
Speaker 1: And I've hated the Cowboys my whole life, and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are closer to the Bucks and the standings and
Speaker 1: the Saints out. The only reason why, the only reason
Speaker 1: why I want the Saints to lose is because we
Speaker 1: beat Dallas. So if we get into a tiebreaker, we
Speaker 1: we we we we take care of that. If the
Speaker 1: Saints lose and the Bucks beat Atlanta, mathematically, it's getting
Speaker 1: to wear it's not over. The division is going to
Speaker 1: be very close to over before there is a scenario
Speaker 1: we can clitch within two weeks where you go, but
Speaker 1: it's out over yet. But if the Saints lose and
Speaker 1: the Bucks win, the Bucks have a four game lead
Speaker 1: in the division and with five to go, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't mind you. I'm not worried about Jinks and
Speaker 1: by saying, you've basically got it wrapped up and and
Speaker 1: then so then you come on, you've got wrapped up, dude.
Speaker 1: I remember nine and three Jon Gruden's last year. You
Speaker 1: know this is not that team. Okay, well that's true,
Speaker 1: that's true. But we I don't think Todd Bowls is
Speaker 1: going to leave or at least take the USC to
Speaker 1: fix a coordinator job in early December. Things are gonna
Speaker 1: happen like that, Okay, Okay, I'm with you. So um
Speaker 1: So the point, well, it's taken, so you know you'll
Speaker 1: feel pre much. I'll feel like, yeah, you go strongly
Speaker 1: that you have a four game leave a five to go. Okay,
Speaker 1: so at that point, and if you don't, then you
Speaker 1: didn't deserve to be there. Anyways, at that point, you've
Speaker 1: locked up one of the top four seeds and a
Speaker 1: first game first round home game to get the possibility
Speaker 1: of a second home game. If you win the first one,
Speaker 1: you got to me the second seed. Of course, the
Speaker 1: first one would be a bike. So what the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: will be fighting for will be to catch Green Bay Arizona.
Speaker 1: If they don't and the Cowboys catch them. All we're
Speaker 1: talking about is the difference between the third and the
Speaker 1: fourth seats. And you can't even tell me right now,
Speaker 1: you know which team you'd rather face in the first
Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. So at the moment, I don't
Speaker 1: see any particular value of the third seat over the
Speaker 1: four seat. And like you said, we do have the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker in hand against the House, so Dallas doesn't scare
Speaker 1: me at all. Even if they pass us, they don't
Speaker 1: scare me. So therefore, logically and emotionally I want the
Speaker 1: Saints to lose, and by the time this is up
Speaker 1: we will know. But they're gonna They're apparently gonna start
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. We'll see how that goes. They're owing four
Speaker 1: with Northwestern's finest Trevor Simeon, uh, and he had against
Speaker 1: US one three quarters with a good game, so uh.
Speaker 1: And then you have Carolina um which is in shape
Speaker 1: ambles at the moment. He spent six million dollars for
Speaker 1: Superman and it's not going so well. Yes, so Cam
Speaker 1: Newton comes back. The first game he plays in, he
Speaker 1: doesn't start p J. Walker, He's the starter. They beat
Speaker 1: somebody know. They actually ended up losing the game Washington. No,
Speaker 1: they won the first game they played, um when Cam,
Speaker 1: when m came back, he had two big plays, a
Speaker 1: passing play and a running play, both for touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's about all he played. Right, the next game
Speaker 1: he started, he played pretty well, but they lost to Washington.
Speaker 1: So now it's not like Cam's back. Even Cam is
Speaker 1: saying I'm back. And then this last week happens and
Speaker 1: he and Cam is back throwing picks and five and
Speaker 1: five two picks of pass rating of five point eight
Speaker 1: and its eventually got benched. Is that against the Dolphins? Yes,
Speaker 1: I believe it was a pretty good defense. Well, the
Speaker 1: Dolphins are now on a four game win Strey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're on a roll. We caught them at the right time,
Speaker 1: did uh. So we have two games left against Carolina,
Speaker 1: So what you want is for them to be in shambles.
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey is now again out for the year. He
Speaker 1: has missed Like you know, I think he is such
Speaker 1: a great player and just gets it done when he
Speaker 1: can play. But he's a guy I can stay out
Speaker 1: the last two years beat up, Yeah, the last two years.
Speaker 1: So that that's what you wanted to be. And that's
Speaker 1: right after they signed him to the huge contract. And
Speaker 1: anytime you signed a running back to a huge contract,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there that say, I
Speaker 1: don't care how good he is, don't sign running backs
Speaker 1: to big contracts. They usually don't pay off. But you
Speaker 1: can understand because he was such a huge part of
Speaker 1: their offense. Yeah, and he was more than just a
Speaker 1: running back, I mean her He plays like the snaps
Speaker 1: and as the center of their offense. So it's understandable.
Speaker 1: But this could be just another way of answering why
Speaker 1: you don't sign running backs to gigantic contracts because since
Speaker 1: he signed it, what's he played like ten games? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all of a sudden, that whole that whole Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think in the last two years. I think it's
Speaker 1: it is something like that. So if you were them,
Speaker 1: if you were Carolina management right now and you could rewind,
Speaker 1: would you still give him that contract? Well? Probably not,
Speaker 1: but but you have to go by his body of work,
Speaker 1: so I can I kind of go you know what.
Speaker 1: And you know, from a from a team that was
Speaker 1: not winning. From a marketing standpoint, he's a good guy
Speaker 1: to have on well. He's a great player, no no doubt.
Speaker 1: But one of the one of the abilities you need
Speaker 1: to really make a contract playoff availability is your best ability.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most important ones. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: all right, Jeff. I think I'm good. If you want
Speaker 1: to move on to our interview, I do. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to talking. Yeah, he seems like a really smart
Speaker 1: dude from what I've seen him do interviews, um so
Speaker 1: and and and also I think he and he can
Speaker 1: tell us more specifically, but I think he does a
Speaker 1: decent amount of charitable work that has been um sort
Speaker 1: of prompted by these experiences he's had in his own life.
Speaker 1: So you're ready, let's do that part. Let's do it
Speaker 1: the Salty Dogs And we're back here on the Salty
Speaker 1: Dogs Podcast. I'm Scott Smith and I am Jeff Ryan,
Speaker 1: and now we are joined by our special guest of
Speaker 1: the week, quarterback Pierre dis Here. And Pierre, as we said,
Speaker 1: all you guys who give us this time, we really
Speaker 1: appreciate it because we know how busy you are. Oh,
Speaker 1: no problem, man, thanks for having Well, we'll try to
Speaker 1: let our fans get a closer look at you as
Speaker 1: a person in a minute. But we got to start
Speaker 1: with the pick man, the interception to seal the game,
Speaker 1: wild game in Indianapolis, and no, it's no small thing.
Speaker 1: That was the spot of probably the best part of
Speaker 1: your career so far. So just tell us what that
Speaker 1: felt like to get that pick, and especially Indianapolis. It
Speaker 1: was a great feeling, you know, um number one to
Speaker 1: finish out the game and come out with a victory.
Speaker 1: But also just you know, getting that other spion and
Speaker 1: the place that you spent so much time and spend
Speaker 1: so much time there, made a lot of good friends. Um,
Speaker 1: I was able to really boost my career and you know,
Speaker 1: take care of my family. So it just felt it
Speaker 1: just felt really good to be able to close it out,
Speaker 1: and especially in the you know what I was thinking,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what I was thinking, but when
Speaker 1: that last play was being running and the ball goes
Speaker 1: up in here, I'm set up in the press by
Speaker 1: s going let's not get a d p I, No
Speaker 1: dp I does that even go in your head, are
Speaker 1: you trying to be extra careful not to do anything
Speaker 1: that the respect throw flagon. This is just a normal
Speaker 1: play and at that point, the ball is in the
Speaker 1: year and you gotta really forget about the receiver and
Speaker 1: let's go for the ball. So that's that was my
Speaker 1: main focus, just to go for the ball. And you know,
Speaker 1: Pittman was on me. I was gonna try to make
Speaker 1: sure he didn't catch a knocking down. But my main
Speaker 1: concernans is going up for the ball. You know, and
Speaker 1: every time a player goes back to where he wants played,
Speaker 1: we always wonder if if there's that extra little juice
Speaker 1: during the game. Was was that for you also? And
Speaker 1: and is it kind of like you get to say,
Speaker 1: you guys made a mistake. I'm still good. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what, you know, something to my uh my family
Speaker 1: about that. You know those things that you know, you
Speaker 1: know those guys, you know those people you spend so
Speaker 1: much time there um and it just felt good to
Speaker 1: be able to go out there and play and play
Speaker 1: with a little bit extra juice because you went against
Speaker 1: those guys in practice before, you know, the coaches, so
Speaker 1: you kind to kind of have the idea of how
Speaker 1: to play them. And you know, it's just one of
Speaker 1: those things like you know, for me, I won't take
Speaker 1: non personal personal as part of the business UM and
Speaker 1: I'll just do my job, go out there and uh,
Speaker 1: I did have a little bit extra juice, but make
Speaker 1: sure I did my job and tell my team in
Speaker 1: you ended up playing all but six snaps on defense.
Speaker 1: Jamale Dean went out early, and it's just yet another
Speaker 1: guy in your group having a bit of a mishap
Speaker 1: getting some unfortunate injury. Look, do you guys look around
Speaker 1: it in this season? Go what more could happen? It's
Speaker 1: like every every week there's another quarter that getting hurt.
Speaker 1: You know, that's part of the National Football League. You
Speaker 1: know this as much as we uh take care of aboudies,
Speaker 1: you know, you never know, I mean, anything can happen.
Speaker 1: And we always have that next man up mentality UM
Speaker 1: in our on our team. So we all have to
Speaker 1: be ready. We all have to when we ever get
Speaker 1: called the bond, just go out there and execute. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be any fall off. And that's how we practice
Speaker 1: and that's how we play. And you know, if someone
Speaker 1: get centered or something like that, I get hurt. Um,
Speaker 1: there should be no fall off. Looking at the number
Speaker 1: of teams that you've been with. You you were drafted
Speaker 1: by Cleveland, and let me see if I get all
Speaker 1: these right. You learn in Seattle twice, you're in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: you're in Baltimore. You were with the Jets, and now
Speaker 1: you're with us. Correct I was, yeah, and I was
Speaker 1: also with the Chargers. Well that's right, that's right, that's correct.
Speaker 1: After Cleveland you went to the Chargers. So you go
Speaker 1: to all these teams, you see how things are different.
Speaker 1: What is the first thing you do when you go
Speaker 1: to a new team. I think the first well, the
Speaker 1: first thing that I do is I want to show
Speaker 1: the guys and learn the respect. So I go out there, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, just just practice hard because I want you
Speaker 1: guys to see what I can do. And just just
Speaker 1: make no excuses out there. Toroduce yourself. Um try to
Speaker 1: try to you know, be befriend a lot of the
Speaker 1: players and a lot of the coaches. But one the
Speaker 1: first thing for me to go out there, work hard
Speaker 1: and show my teammates that you know, I'm here to
Speaker 1: I'm here to work, I'm here to do whatever it's
Speaker 1: called upon me to do. So You've been to a
Speaker 1: number of teams, but you come to the Buccaneers and
Speaker 1: you were willing as a veteran, you were willing to
Speaker 1: go on the practice squad. Where does that fortitude, I
Speaker 1: guess come from that you would be willing to go
Speaker 1: to the practice squad because a lot of guys wouldn't
Speaker 1: do that. For me, I love this game so much,
Speaker 1: and uh, I feel like I still have a couple
Speaker 1: of years to play. And you know, whenever I had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to come on the Bugs, um, I knew
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be as a active player and I
Speaker 1: was gonna be on a practice squad. But I knew
Speaker 1: what this team I did last year, and I knew
Speaker 1: what they're camp be loved for many years to come,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be a part of that. So
Speaker 1: the decision for me was I get to go out
Speaker 1: there and do what I love and playing with the
Speaker 1: great goog of guys. Here there's a you. As you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different paths to the NFL. Some
Speaker 1: of them are harder than others. And I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm saying anything people don't already know that you had
Speaker 1: to fight and work hard and get through a lot
Speaker 1: of obstacles to get here. Um, just for the fans
Speaker 1: that don't know, summarize a little bit of it. Born
Speaker 1: in Haiti, right, moved here at the age of four
Speaker 1: and ended up in St. Louis first and um became
Speaker 1: young parents at the age of sixteen. Went to a
Speaker 1: very small school in Kansas, which separate you from your family.
Speaker 1: You've had to work a lot of jobs. Your wife's
Speaker 1: had to work love of jobs. Your parents have had
Speaker 1: to work love jobs. You have three kids. Now do
Speaker 1: you feel like all that hard work has really paid
Speaker 1: off and now you and your family are in a
Speaker 1: place where you all feel comfortable. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: always look at it. You know, I don't look at
Speaker 1: struggle at something negative. I always going to struggle at
Speaker 1: something that those those are character and there's those are
Speaker 1: better foundation for you for whenever future obstacles come, you're
Speaker 1: able to overcome them. And so I used everything every
Speaker 1: experience that I had in my past. Um, like you know,
Speaker 1: being an emigrant and born in uh I mean have
Speaker 1: being a team father, being a division to athletes, and
Speaker 1: I'm still able to a drafted are going on my
Speaker 1: eighth year in the NFL. So I just I just,
Speaker 1: you know, use all the experiences I had, um, you know,
Speaker 1: growing up, and just use that to overcome every adversity
Speaker 1: that was facebook in my career. Okay, so you've done
Speaker 1: all of this and your children, though, are very fortunate
Speaker 1: because you are very successful. So how do you instill
Speaker 1: what you were instilled with on your values to them?
Speaker 1: For me, I showed them. I always talked to them
Speaker 1: about the times before I got into the NFL, UM,
Speaker 1: and I make sure that they're involved in my community
Speaker 1: efforts UM, and make sure that they talked to my
Speaker 1: parents and to really get to understanding of how hard
Speaker 1: it really was and how I was growing up to haiti. UM.
Speaker 1: So I do a lot of talking, but I showed
Speaker 1: them through my actions of how I'm in the community
Speaker 1: and showing them how other people UM have are a
Speaker 1: little bit less fortunate than them and still show them
Speaker 1: that they can overcome a lot, just a lot of
Speaker 1: hard work, UM in faith. So I talked to my
Speaker 1: kids about it, UM. I give them examples and then
Speaker 1: UM also I also show them what I did and
Speaker 1: how my parents overcame a lot of absolute Do you
Speaker 1: want to tell us a little bit about what that
Speaker 1: troudable work is, the things that are important to you
Speaker 1: in community. Yeah. Absolutely for me. I have h nonprofit
Speaker 1: that I worked with, Contamartor's Feet. I've been working with
Speaker 1: them for over three years. We provide shoes for those
Speaker 1: of me, um I mean throughout the world. Um just
Speaker 1: on my behalf. I've done uh some Uh, I've done
Speaker 1: some contributions and uh St Louis, New Jersey, Indianapolis Ums Foundation.
Speaker 1: That's really close to my heart. You don't only just
Speaker 1: you know, give kids shoes, but it's it's the humility factor,
Speaker 1: you know, watch the kids feet and then I were
Speaker 1: able to uh you know, be a servant to the
Speaker 1: kids or or just the kids the adults and just
Speaker 1: really give back and learn more about them um a's
Speaker 1: and you know, share to work with giving back with
Speaker 1: backpacks and meals and anything that I can do that
Speaker 1: can help. Because I've been in a lot of those
Speaker 1: people's situations growing up, so I know how important it
Speaker 1: is to use my platform to help others. I apologize,
Speaker 1: but I didn't catch the word before feet in the
Speaker 1: name of that program. Uh Samaritans Feet Samaritans. Okay, is
Speaker 1: there a web is there a website that that you
Speaker 1: can give us. Yeah, it's a just www dot Samaritan
Speaker 1: speed dot com. Um, that's uh, you can go on there.
Speaker 1: You can you can easily look through all the the
Speaker 1: contributions that have done, my contributions and many other athletes
Speaker 1: as well. Um. And he has a very great organization. Um.
Speaker 1: They're doing very great things and I'm just happy to
Speaker 1: be able to partner with them. Jeff forgot less in
Speaker 1: a minute. Left, I know what else you want to ask?
Speaker 1: The only thing is if and is coming up? What
Speaker 1: do you see? You know, we see a team that
Speaker 1: has shifted, uh, and how they played a little bit. Um,
Speaker 1: they play a little bit more aggressive. UM. So you
Speaker 1: know they beat They beat the Saints, the team that
Speaker 1: we lost too. So we know it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: easy game. And I feel like throughout the whole the
Speaker 1: whole year, as long as we do what we have
Speaker 1: to do, um, and we come on fire and come
Speaker 1: out on all the special teams, offensive defense, UM, we'll
Speaker 1: come out with a w here. Thank you very much
Speaker 1: for your time, thank you for sharing some of your story,
Speaker 1: and good luck this weekend in Atlanta. I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you the Salt to It Dogs and We're back
Speaker 1: once again on the Salty Dogs podcast. I'm Scott Smith
Speaker 1: and we are the Salty Dogs and this is the
Speaker 1: part of the podcast where we answer your questions. And Jeff,
Speaker 1: I want to I think when I only got like
Speaker 1: two questions this week, which is a little disappointing. But
Speaker 1: I think part of the problem is I keep forgetting
Speaker 1: to tell them how to send us questions before we
Speaker 1: get into the questions. Oh yeah, good call, you know,
Speaker 1: when you know, talking with Pierre and listening to some
Speaker 1: of the struggles and him having to tell his children,
Speaker 1: you know, because he is very successful. The question that
Speaker 1: that I brought up, how do you instill your children
Speaker 1: these values? And of course he tells him his his
Speaker 1: story and his grandparents, his parents story, their grandparents story.
Speaker 1: But it made me think and I and I was
Speaker 1: gonna say it, but I held it back. I was
Speaker 1: going to say, um, oh, so in other words, when
Speaker 1: you tell the kids that you're walking uphill to and
Speaker 1: from school in the snow both ways, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I remember your parents would always tell you how hard
Speaker 1: they added. He really did, He really did, and his
Speaker 1: parents did too, and so his parents actually are pretty good.
Speaker 1: As he talked about he says he has his kids
Speaker 1: talk to his parents. That's pretty good because they can
Speaker 1: tell him directly, you know how what Pierre had to
Speaker 1: go through. And for a guy that's been on that
Speaker 1: many teams and have that great of an attitude, very
Speaker 1: impressed with him. I do think, Jeff, you asked him
Speaker 1: the question about being willing to go on a practice squad.
Speaker 1: Things have changed a little bit over the last two
Speaker 1: years because they've expanded those to sixteen and they have
Speaker 1: um and they've made six spots on there that you
Speaker 1: can have veteran exceptions. You know, a guy like Peerterre
Speaker 1: would not have been a few years. Like. The money
Speaker 1: is different, though, is it not? Well, it's it's a
Speaker 1: decent amount. I think it's something like twelve thousand a week,
Speaker 1: which when you if you're un there for the whole season,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good salary. I'd like to make that twelve
Speaker 1: times eighteen. I don't make twelve times eighteen thousand or
Speaker 1: eighteen times twelve thousand. I don't think i'd have to
Speaker 1: do the matter so anyway, um uh, but you get
Speaker 1: if you get up to the active roster obviously more
Speaker 1: especially if you're more of a veteran, because there are
Speaker 1: veterans that have would not go on the practice squad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you see a ton of them around here, I
Speaker 1: mean around the league right now. You go onto any
Speaker 1: practice squad right now, and you'll see somebody you recognize,
Speaker 1: you know, like guys like Adrian Peterson go onto because
Speaker 1: know with the way things are going this season, and
Speaker 1: with the fact that you can get elevated from the
Speaker 1: practice squad, uh, and the fact that anything can happen
Speaker 1: and then you're right there. That's what happened to Pierre.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had all the injuries that he got
Speaker 1: elevated twice. I liked his answer though, because he said
Speaker 1: he can see a lot where this team is that
Speaker 1: he wanted to be part of it. So I like that.
Speaker 1: So anyway, he Uh, I don't know where I was
Speaker 1: going without you're criticizing my question, but that's fine. Uh,
Speaker 1: you got a good answer, So there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: the question. I'm just saying I think you see a
Speaker 1: lot more established federals going on practice squads in the
Speaker 1: current climate, now that you bring it up. Yes, Uh.
Speaker 1: The other thing that I wanted to do is UM.
Speaker 1: He was talking about his charity Samaritan that he works
Speaker 1: that does a lot of work with Samaritan's Feet, And
Speaker 1: if you want to check out their website, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it right now. It's Samaritan's Feet dot org. And
Speaker 1: that is spelled s A M A r I T
Speaker 1: A N S f e e t dot org samaritanly,
Speaker 1: you know, like good Samaritans, Samaritan's Feet. So if you're
Speaker 1: interested in what he was talking about, you can check
Speaker 1: you can check it out. It does look like it's
Speaker 1: a global charity. But what I'm seeing you did say
Speaker 1: that it serves. It says it serves. It's served eight
Speaker 1: eight point four million people's worldwide, hundred eight countries, four
Speaker 1: and fifty US cities volteers in the last eight years.
Speaker 1: We're doing a lot of good works. I like it.
Speaker 1: Another thing I'm gonna spell out here is that I
Speaker 1: don't think I've been doing a good job to tell
Speaker 1: people how to send us questions. The best way is
Speaker 1: to um is to uh email us at Salty Dogs,
Speaker 1: which I'm gonna assume you know how to spell at
Speaker 1: Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. Maybe when you tweet out
Speaker 1: that we uh that hey and the new salty Dogs
Speaker 1: out there. When you do include it there too, you
Speaker 1: can go hey, if you have a question after listening
Speaker 1: to the Salty Dogs, here's You can also tweet at
Speaker 1: me and if you say, hey, this is for salty Dogs,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Okay. They can do a direct message,
Speaker 1: a little hashtag. Okay, oh I see hash bag. What
Speaker 1: you can't do you can't drink message on me on
Speaker 1: Twitter unless you're following each other. So but what are you?
Speaker 1: What are you? Scott? Scott s Bucks? I would guess
Speaker 1: that a majority of the people that would listen to
Speaker 1: this podcast probably also already know how to find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter. That's my guess, all right. Um, so I
Speaker 1: only have two and one of them and one of
Speaker 1: them of courses from our our buddy and uh and Brazil.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's on a win streak. Yeah, Well, I think
Speaker 1: he figured out the pattern was he has to send
Speaker 1: us a question and it has to be have something
Speaker 1: to do with football if he does that, because he
Speaker 1: forgot one week and we lost, but then he remembered
Speaker 1: and we still lost. But the question wasn't about football,
Speaker 1: all right, So that's the place. So I'm kind of
Speaker 1: obligated to read a question sends every week. I wish
Speaker 1: you would, and of course I only got two this
Speaker 1: week anyway, So he's in luck, a hoy salty ones.
Speaker 1: Hope this finds you both well, and this is all
Speaker 1: like every word is a sentence, like a period. What
Speaker 1: a game, a huge win, A team win with a
Speaker 1: capital W. I was, and I'm gonna just spoiler alert.
Speaker 1: If we didn't win, the letter would be w T
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. I did not try to research this question
Speaker 1: because it sounded hard. I didn't feel like doing it.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, and I think Mr Smith is the
Speaker 1: right person to ask, when was the last time, if ever,
Speaker 1: that a winning team had six of its past yards
Speaker 1: and seventy of its rush yards condensed and just two players,
Speaker 1: And of course he's talking about Leonard Fournette and Rob Gronkowski.
Speaker 1: Gronkowski had a hundred twenty three siving yards. I think
Speaker 1: for net at one UM, you know, guys like Chris
Speaker 1: and Mike were only getting like thirty yards twenty five
Speaker 1: yards each, and then Leonard of course had the hundred
Speaker 1: yards rushing. UM. But I don't actually think this is
Speaker 1: that was a particularly rare thing I've seen game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I don't I don't even
Speaker 1: have to research that. I don't think it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't bother researching it because my um
Speaker 1: just basic memory and experienced. Tis me, that's maybe not
Speaker 1: the most common thing. But it's not that on one
Speaker 1: guy is a big game. It's a good question. Guys
Speaker 1: have a big game. And in this case, it was
Speaker 1: basically we were taking what they were taken away our
Speaker 1: outside receivers. I was their point, right, So it was
Speaker 1: gonna be a big Lenny game and a big Ron game.
Speaker 1: Just was No, it's it's cam Brady had a couple
Speaker 1: of big catches. I'd like to see that continue, Yes,
Speaker 1: and a big and a good past interference. Um okay.
Speaker 1: So also in this email, he attached to photo and
Speaker 1: it was a photo that you and Dave and um
Speaker 1: and uh Gino took. It was like a selfie selfie
Speaker 1: with the stadium in the background. You know. I was
Speaker 1: trying to figure that. No, after the game was over with,
Speaker 1: we we went into break and Day was like, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: let's get a picture. Let's get a picture, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: what what He goes, come on, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: and I and I guess he tweeted it out. It
Speaker 1: was from Dave Moore Twitter. So Dave tweeted out the
Speaker 1: three person selfie of you and you were in the middle,
Speaker 1: and he says, I saw the attached photo on Dave
Speaker 1: Moore Twitter, and I mean this is we know this
Speaker 1: guy Andrew or Alexander is a big Bucks fan. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if you you know that whole me Mary is doing,
Speaker 1: tell me you're this without telling me you're this, tell
Speaker 1: me you're a Bucks fan without telling me you're a
Speaker 1: Bucks fan. I fellow Dave Moore on Twitter. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be one. I saw the attached photo of
Speaker 1: day More on day Moore Twitter. I was curious if
Speaker 1: the person in the middle is the other salty dog
Speaker 1: I hear weekly during football. That is Jeff Ryan that
Speaker 1: and you know he's he's He's like me, well, he's
Speaker 1: more salt and pepper. I'm pretty much all salted at
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's the guy.
Speaker 1: Did do you think his voice matches his visage A
Speaker 1: face for radio if you saw a podcasting, Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1: You have you have the voice you were gifted with
Speaker 1: the voice. Okay, second question, ye old salty dogs Old.
Speaker 1: We're nearly two December now, so I think it's time
Speaker 1: to start talking about awards, as in which Bucks are
Speaker 1: going to win them? Pro Bowl. I'll prob m VP
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Do any Bucks have a shot?
Speaker 1: I remember that Derek Brooks was the Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year when we won the Super Bowl, But has
Speaker 1: any Buck ever won m v P or the other awards?
Speaker 1: Could Bruce be Coach of the Year if the Bucks
Speaker 1: win another Super Bowl? I feel like there should be
Speaker 1: more individual awards on a team that is the defending
Speaker 1: champs and is once again one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league. What do you guys think? Thanks first
Speaker 1: time email center. You know, like people say first time
Speaker 1: caller Josh Cally, I think it's how I would be.
Speaker 1: It doesn't say where he's from, all right, So a
Speaker 1: couple of things here. Derek Brooks, yes, was Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year in O two. Warren stap also won
Speaker 1: that award in and Leroy Summon wonted in seventy nine,
Speaker 1: so we've actually won that award three times, which is
Speaker 1: pretty good. No Buccaneers ever won the m v P yeah,
Speaker 1: and so Tom Brady is in the running. He's probably
Speaker 1: in the top three or four, So that would be
Speaker 1: pretty exciting. I would be personally quite exciting. I don't
Speaker 1: think that winning another super Bowl would get it for Bruce.
Speaker 1: It would be his third, which would be amazing, but um,
Speaker 1: and that's because these votes take place well before the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, so winning the super Bowl will not help
Speaker 1: him well. And I think the problem with Bruce is that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, people are expecting this team to do it.
Speaker 1: It's not it's and that's that kind of that You're
Speaker 1: the unknown team that makes everybody You're the Cinderella team.
Speaker 1: The Coach of the Year award generally goes to the
Speaker 1: coach of a team who does a lot better than
Speaker 1: people expected. Um, you know, and who would that be
Speaker 1: this year? Clicking, I was just gonna say Arizona right now? Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a better choice than that. Do you think,
Speaker 1: I mean, could they give it to Belichick again? Well,
Speaker 1: you know you have to. You know, they haven't lost
Speaker 1: since since they lost against US, is that right? I believe?
Speaker 1: So they're going like a six game wins, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to look bad up. Look it up. It's
Speaker 1: crazy how well they're best. I didn't think it was that.
Speaker 1: I think they won six in a row. It could
Speaker 1: be right though, Um so, I mean, now they lost
Speaker 1: to Dallas in weeks six, so they lost US beat Houston,
Speaker 1: big whoop, and then lost to Dallas. And then they've
Speaker 1: won one, two, three, four or five six, And there's
Speaker 1: a mix here, there's some They beat the Chargers, they
Speaker 1: beat the Browns, and they beat the Titans, all of
Speaker 1: which I would consider pretty quality teams. They also beat
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Panthers. I beat the crap out of
Speaker 1: the Panthers. They beat the crap out of the Falcons too. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what coach Yeah, I would say,
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, if if the Browns were
Speaker 1: any good. Yeah, they've been disappointing, that could be a
Speaker 1: coach of the year Cincinnati teams that haven't been to
Speaker 1: the playoffs or or haven't been very successful. Right. So
Speaker 1: last year it was Kevin Savanski and they won eleven
Speaker 1: and five and we're a big story. Um two years.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is kind of funny. In two thousand
Speaker 1: and eighteen, it was Matt Maggie, who's barely holding on too,
Speaker 1: because the Bears went twelve and four and they weren't
Speaker 1: expect to be that good. You know, Sean McVeigh wanted
Speaker 1: the year they went to the Super Bowl. Uh, that
Speaker 1: was a big turnaround for them. John Harbor wanted two
Speaker 1: years ago when they were fourteen and two. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's Bruce arians wanted with the Cardinals in
Speaker 1: fourteen and then also with the Colts and twelve. Um,
Speaker 1: so I don't know who who is it. Let's look
Speaker 1: at the standings real quick. Yeah, it was better than
Speaker 1: their I mean, New England's better than they were supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah. Well let's see Tennessee Mike Vrabel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: except they're not they're not winning. Yeah, they need to
Speaker 1: turn it back around. And uh, even in Indianapolis. Indianapolis
Speaker 1: would have a shot at it. You know. Frank Adam
Speaker 1: I like Frank Rock. I think he's a good coach.
Speaker 1: I think he is too. I think there's six and six, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I mean this is gonna be well. Yeah, they need
Speaker 1: to win a lot more. Um. I mean I think
Speaker 1: people were making fun of him before this year, but
Speaker 1: Zach Tyler's binkles are seven and four well that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy to give the war too.
Speaker 1: And also has Okay, so so far, um, what what's
Speaker 1: the record right now for the Packers? Right? Okay? So
Speaker 1: has he want to know who? What's his name? Um?
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur. Matt Lafleur has not won this award yet,
Speaker 1: and the Packers have gone and they and they won
Speaker 1: the m v P. The Packers are nine and three
Speaker 1: this year. Last year they were they were the number
Speaker 1: one seed at thirteen and three, and I think that
Speaker 1: was his second year and his first year they went
Speaker 1: and three. But at what point does this guy not winning?
Speaker 1: But his problem is he's winning during the regular season
Speaker 1: and he's getting blown out. But the votes are before that,
Speaker 1: I understand, But because he gets blown out in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They made it to the NFC Championship Game and lost
Speaker 1: by eight points. But they've lost twice in the NFC
Speaker 1: chap Okay, so let me tell you a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, if somebody said, hey, the Bucks are going
Speaker 1: to go to the NFC Championship Game for the next
Speaker 1: two years but not making the Super Bowl, I would
Speaker 1: have felt pretty good about that. Yes, you would not
Speaker 1: how it works. The point is to have your team
Speaker 1: in the dance this point, this is for them to
Speaker 1: get a shot. The Bucks got their shot on a
Speaker 1: wild card. Certainly weren't expected to win the Super Well,
Speaker 1: what they did. The point was to get your team there.
Speaker 1: And he's done it three years in a row. And
Speaker 1: I know he has the MVP on his team, but
Speaker 1: they have also overcome a lot of injuries. But if
Speaker 1: i'm voting, it's Matt, If i'm voting it's Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: but we're saying he doesn't have a shot. So if
Speaker 1: if it's not Bruce Arians, I'm voting, I'm voting Matt
Speaker 1: la Flora. I'm just saying the reason why he's not
Speaker 1: getting it is because and for whatever reason, if you know,
Speaker 1: just getting into the playoffs is only good for a
Speaker 1: small period of time. I don't know. Whatever you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not buying your argument. I gotta be
Speaker 1: honest with you. Well, look at different coaches that have
Speaker 1: all they did was go to the playoffs and then
Speaker 1: get fired. So we can't. We can't get it. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna get Defensive Player of the Year. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna get either the rookie of the Year once that
Speaker 1: will go to the linebacker in Dallas and probably Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: UM's playing really well, we're not getting we could get
Speaker 1: m VP. We should have some Pro bowlers. We talked
Speaker 1: about that a little bit already. UM, I don't know
Speaker 1: what else there would be, so you know, on the
Speaker 1: coach probably unless the Bucks just go nuts down the
Speaker 1: stretcher finish fifteen or fourteen three. And I like I
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady's thing though when when um Devin White
Speaker 1: did make the Pro Bowl and well, was all upset
Speaker 1: and he said, there are bigger things to win. And
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the attitude of this team. Wow,
Speaker 1: there's a ding and he goes, oh, well, since this
Speaker 1: will be out by tomorrow. Is this what I think
Speaker 1: it is? This is not good? Is this? This is
Speaker 1: the news that Antonio Brown, Mike Edwards, and a guy
Speaker 1: that's no longer with us, John Franklin, are all being
Speaker 1: suspended for three games for violation of COVID policies. Initial
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm we're not editorializing on this, soul, Jeff,
Speaker 1: because it's not It is not for us to speak
Speaker 1: for the team. But I will just read you what
Speaker 1: this says the National Football League announced today discipline three
Speaker 1: players for violating jointly developed and administered NFL n f
Speaker 1: L p A COVID nineteen protocols. Tampa Bay's Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: and Mike Edwards have each been su ended without paying
Speaker 1: for the next three games. Free agent John Franklin, the
Speaker 1: third if sign back club, is also ineligible to play
Speaker 1: in the next three games. All three players have accepted
Speaker 1: the discipline and waive their right of appeal. The suspensions
Speaker 1: are effective immediately. All right, We're not gonna talk about
Speaker 1: that anymore. Uh, we were just reading the news. We
Speaker 1: were about to wrap this up anyway. You will see,
Speaker 1: and we're hear plenty about those things anyway. You don't
Speaker 1: need us to talk about it. But in any case,
Speaker 1: we thanks to Pierre to here again for joining us.
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