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So this is 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.600 a podcast where we talk about the Buccaneers primarily, and 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.200 in a little bit we're going to have Pierre desire 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.640 to see her on for us. I'm gonna ask him 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.560 to pronounce his nature because I've heard a bunch of 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:36.120 different interesting story. Looking forward to talking with him, right 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.440 and we will. We have ten minutes with him, so 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.200 we're not gonna be able to break down all of it. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.919 But he has a very interesting story. He added, you know, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.399 he had obstacles, He had tough times in the life, 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.200 in his life and his family's life, and he grew 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.200 up in Haiti. I mean was born in Haiti, immigrated 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.440 here dated four, ended up around St. Louis and some 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.800 hard areas. His parents worked hard to get him out 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.280 of there, and then he became a Him and his 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:05.320 wife became parents at the age of sixteen. Um which 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.280 if you read about it, obviously that's gonna be tough, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.880 but it also brought a lot of love in their 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.240 life too, considering he's what thirty two, so that he's 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.720 got three kids. Yeah, and the one that was born 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.280 first is her name is Keeley, and um, obviously the 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.720 family they're in great shape now. But they had to work. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.239 He had to work very hard, his wife had to 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:24.760 work very hard to get there. So we'll talk a 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.640 little bit about that. It's hard to cover in ten minutes, 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.560 but just now, it's a guy with a very interesting 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.040 backstory and a guy that made a really big play 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.840 in the last game in his former NFL home. So 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.560 when we're talking about that. But first, it seems weird 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.760 whenever whenever we do this, sometimes we do it on Tuesday, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.440 sometime on Wednesdays, sometimes Thursday. Whenever we do it on Thursday, 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.360 it almost seems a little weird to talk about the 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.080 last game because we've all kind of moved on from 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.440 the total we're all just talking about everybody's just talking 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.560 about the Falcons and the stretch on and kind of 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.760 all to talk about the indie game was the last 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.520 few days. But I still think we need to touch 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.440 on some things. Yeah, go ahead, First of all, let 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:03.440 me hear what was your favorite thing the game? Um, Wow, 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:07.040 there's so many to choose from, but I'm gonna say, uh, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.120 my favorite thing in the game was Scotty Miller. And 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.680 the reason why is one he got the past interference 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:18.520 call and then to the hustle on getting the muffed punt. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.560 I I thought, for someone who hasn't played in for 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.880 a while to hustle like he did, I I enjoyed. Also, 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.320 that's a new role for him, playing the gunner on 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.560 the left side on punts. And he was out there 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.960 and he was consistently getting down the field quick, which 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.720 is why you put him out there because of his speed, right, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.840 but the returns kept going in the other direction. But 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.040 on this one he was down there so fast that 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:41.760 he was right there when the guy off the pot. Yeah. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.800 And and the thing about this game you you can't 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.800 you have a number of favorite things that you could 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.880 choose from. Leonard four Nette, Well, I'll give you another 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.720 reason to be happy about Scotty, And um, I think 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.280 my favorite thing about that game was in several key moments, 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.599 how great our receivers are blocking, especially to Chris Godwin 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.040 of course, but um there were some moments in that 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.440 game where the blocking of our receivers was critical. One 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.080 of them. Remember the third and eight play with Rob 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:15.360 Gronkowski and it was around midfield. Um. The pass was 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.640 thrown out to him in the in the right flat, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.160 but he only maybe three hours past line scrimmage, so 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:21.520 there was a lot of work still to be done 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:23.960 for him to get the first down on third and eight. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.680 And he made in a great individual effort picking the 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.840 right lane and twisting through some tackles and getting past 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.560 the line. But I don't think he would have been 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:36.440 able to do it alone. Uh, Chris Godwin had a 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.280 great block and Scotty Miller on which we expect to do. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:44.360 Scotty Miller got the biggest receiver, great block which created 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.240 a lane for for Gronk to go through, and those 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.880 two blocks were critical on a critical play on the 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.240 Leonard four net game winning touchdown run UM. And I 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.280 thought I liked the way Um Byron left talked about it. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.280 Talked about it today. Byron said when he was on 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.800 the headset, UH, after they called that plane right before 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.360 the snap, he said, I think we might break this one, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.400 or I think this one might Gowards. You know, we 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.320 were probably around the twenty eight. We were at the 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.960 twenty eight. Were at the twenty eight, at which point 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.280 it's a forty six year of field goal which Ryan 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.120 suck Up probably gonna make, but you'd like to get 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.440 closer to feel better about it, all right, So you 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.960 call runs, you're running down the clock and you're getting closer. Uh, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.440 and you probably think, you know, we're gonna get four 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.360 or five yards, hopefully maybe more. But then he season goes, 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.440 we might break this one. Sure enough, he breaks out 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:33.960 in the open to the left and he gets around 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.080 the corner. And Byron also said when he saw that 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.640 it was Chris Godwin that was down the field blocking, 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.520 he knew they were going to score because god was 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.320 such a good block. So if you've watched that play again, Uh, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.720 he comes, Leonard Ford comes barreling around the left end, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.520 starts up field. He's got a full head of steam 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:55.080 and Godwin is blocking. Uh. Isaiah Rodgers, who whose game 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:56.599 was not over at that point, there was still another 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.760 big moment for him. But he's blocked him and blocked 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.200 him at the last second. Rod just managed to like 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.920 slide off of him and get in Leonard Foe's path 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:08.040 and in retrospect, he probably wishes he hadn't because it's 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.600 like sliding over to take a charge. Here comes the truck. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.480 He had no chance. I don't know if there's a 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.680 dB in the league who could have disengaged from block 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.480 and seconds later stopped Leonard Fournet with a full head 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.520 of team. The second best part about that play is 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.080 that happened right in front of us down because we 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.120 were so high. The press box is very high in 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.400 that stadium, but that particular run was right where we were, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.160 so we had a great view. But my other when 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:36.240 you're talking about great blocks and everything, Donovan Smith took 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.800 two guys out on that play, didn't He took two 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.880 guys out on that play. And we had him after 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.120 the game and we kind of brought it up and 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.120 he was like, you know, TJ was like, I I 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.640 think you took two guys out, and there was this 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.440 pause and then Donovan go, yeah I did, and I 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.920 and it was it was absolutely just opened it up. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.560 He took two guys. He took one out and then 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.760 came back and took the other. So you can't ask 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.920 for more than that. Well, you know, the blocking is 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.120 everything in in the run game. So there you go. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.720 We tend to go on tangents, so let's go on 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:13.760 one right here, Smith, Um, I would say, and back 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.280 me up if you think I'm right. That For the 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.080 majority of Donovan Smith's career here, which began when he 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:22.240 was a second round pick into if you think I'm that, 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.800 usually most people say, you know, back me up if 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.120 I'm wrong. But go ahead, No, yeah, go ahead, I 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.600 got you. I just like to tell you I didn't. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.640 I was gonna say back me up here, but you can't. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.599 I can't assume that you're going to agree with me. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.760 My My basic point was going to be that Donovan 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.559 Smith trapped in the second round. He's been at the 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.599 very least and there's it's a lot more than this. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.120 He's been an iron man at a critical position. He 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.400 has locked down the left tackle position for almost every 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.160 game and almost every snap over the last seven years. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.760 Something like that. Now it's hard to believe. So I 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.400 have this is the part I wanted to see, if 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.880 you back me on. I have felt that his story 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.480 for the majority of his career here has been that 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.600 the opinion of him inside the building, coaches, personnel people 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.400 is much higher than what he gets credit for in 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.840 the outside world. Nope, there's been a lot of criticism 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.120 earlier in his career out a lot of outside analysts 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.000 felt he wasn't as good as we felt interior that 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:25.559 he was. Whoever was right back then. I think it's 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.400 irrelevant now a mood point because and now I think 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.880 he's playing at the highest level of his career and 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.199 I think everybody is recognizing it for whatever reason. There's 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.080 always some players that no matter what they do, they 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.880 get dogged, and then there are other players that you 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:47.000 know they're good, but they get so much more. Oh, 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.920 the perception of them is and I don't I don't 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.160 understand it because, uh, Donovan is very personable individual. He's 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.360 you know, out there in in the community all these 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.920 things and is like you said, he's been an iron 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.920 man and he's also been good. And now I think 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:07.839 he's really good and you should vote for him. And 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.440 the problems we stand it's still open right now. Oh yeah, 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:11.960 there's a lot of time to go. O. We stand 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.880 out there on the edge of the practice field in 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.760 the mornings, and the offensive line does their individual drools 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.360 very close to where we are, and so they sometimes 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.280 you know, jokingly say some things to media, but this 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.400 yesterday they were all stumping for Dinovan Smith for the 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.200 Pro Bowl. And they could do that for any guy. Obviously. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.400 I think there's a rising opinion that Ali Marpette and 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.480 Tristan Worths are Pro Bowl caliber players. So in our 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.840 offensive line ranks first in the NFL in sacts allowed 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.640 for past play, and so they're doing well. And here's 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.520 the thing too, and I want your opinion on this. Uh, 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.079 Tristan has just been phenomenal from day one, from day one. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.440 Now would he be that phenomenal if he had come 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.000 in when Donovan came in and the old line was 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.079 not totally there yet? Who knows? I don't know. You 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.280 see what I'm saying is like sometimes you can come in. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.600 I mean, don't get me wrong. He's very very good, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.720 He's great. I have a feeling he would have succeeded. Yeah, probably, 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.400 but he maybe Donovan had to grow into it a 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.040 little bit. And and like you said, there wasn't as 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.160 much talent up front, and he and Ali were are 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.560 he stepped into the starting lineup. That's what I'm about. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:20.400 I'm sure they're better now than they were then. Um. Yeah, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.160 But in any case, I do feel like the public 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.320 perception of donalson Donovan Smith this season, maybe last season, 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.079 has caught up a little bit about how he's valued 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:34.280 with how he's valued, and now you just have you 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.160 can look at it and go. Tom Brady gets to 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.000 play with two really good offensive tackles who were having 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:43.120 great seasons. Yes, I'm totally bad and that player. You're 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.079 never gonna get me to agree with you more than 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.280 right now. Well, part of it was where you agree 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.319 with me that he was undappreciated or at least the 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.240 perception of him was different, and I never understood, you know, 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.400 and another guy that I thought also, you know when 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.560 you say that there just seems to be like I thought, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.640 Gerald McCoy in his earlier years took a lot of 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.880 heat even because I think what happens is you you 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.839 are expected to replace someone and be Yeah, but he 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.839 also made like six Pro Bowls. Yeah yeah, but but 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.959 but there were people out there who didn't think he 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:16.040 was deserving and I always disagreed with that too. So hopefully, uh, 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.560 we can get Donovan into the Pro Bowl. That would 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.319 be nice. I think I think it would mean a 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:26.040 lot to him because it's it's been like seven years. Yeah, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.720 um yeah. And the Pro Bowl voting right now, don't 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.400 read too much into it. I think you've seen. It's 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.199 only the fan voting going on right now. If you 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:38.360 don't know, the Pro Bowl players are chosen in what 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.680 b A says as a flawed system. And I don't 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:45.199 disagree with thirds, the third counting each of fan voting, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.400 coach voting, and player voting. And theoretically what happens is 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:55.160 whatever the fan vote is creates a ballot that's you know, 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.559 one ballot, and then each also for the coach and 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.400 the players, and then they're merged. Last year, as an example, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.559 we just looked at this today. Around this time, we 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.959 had three guys that were leading their their spots in 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.760 and voting among the fan votes. We had another one 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.800 who was second, and then Jason Pierre Paul or a 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.000 couple more than our second. And then Jason Pierre Paul 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.079 was running third at his position. Well you know what 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:20.120 happened only Jason Pierre Paul maybe bowl, So don't put 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.320 much stock into that. Um, it is going to be now. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.560 And then the Buckaners won the Super Bowl and tied 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.839 the Giants of I don't remember which year. As the 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.959 only teams to win the Super Bowl to have one 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.599 or fewer Pro Bowlers, which was just an indication of 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.439 how deep the town was and how underappreciated some of 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.200 our guys. And and it'll be interesting to see now 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.120 if they get that Super Bowl bump and guys that 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.320 we're great players that were absolutely crucial to us winning 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:46.959 the Super Bowl, like Ali mar Pett and all those 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.400 offensive lineman and Devin White and Lavante David. Are they 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.920 going to get recognition this time around? Usually that's what happens. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:58.360 Usually it's the year previously. It was funny last year 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.439 that Tom Brady didn't make the Pro Bowl after throwing 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.480 fortydown passes, and his name is Tom Brady. I don't 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.439 think it's gonna happen again. Well, it was at ninety 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.839 nine the year that gosh, we sent like, I don't know, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.439 eight players was I mean, there is Trent, and there 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.640 is you know, Tony Mayberry. Guys that we sent ten 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.600 one year I said, and I think we said eight 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.360 and ninety seven when they we had to break through 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.520 year Trent was on at that Trent Dilford, which which 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.600 maybe this is the year that that happens and it 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.160 could be, you know, would be nice, It would be 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.840 you get some recognition. I totally it's the Pro Bowl 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.720 in Orlando, still, I think, so I can't happen. Last 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.240 year I kind of checked out when they quit quitting 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.640 it in Hawaii because I know I loved why you 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.480 went to the Pro Bowl and you know how much 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.280 fun that is. I know I did, like gosh, so 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.360 um a little more from the Indie game. Um oh, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.440 maybe it's in Vegas. Really that because I've never been 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.280 to Vegas. I think maybe they gave it. Maybe they 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.800 I think I think they want to do it in Vegas. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.200 But you know that's that's horrible. We don't know where 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:00.960 the Pro Bowl. I got my computer right here. You 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.560 want me to look it up? You use your little 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.240 tiny computer there, So I'll talk about something while you're 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.040 doing that. Um, Mike Edwards, as I said, that corner 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.760 that got trucked by four net on the touchdown, his 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.520 name's Isaiah Rodgers. And that was not the end of 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.040 his story for that night because with there were twenty 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.560 seconds left on the clock and there you know, coach 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.440 Arians brought up after the game that if he he 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:31.240 kind of regretted not telling guys to kneel if they 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.600 got near the end zone right taking e because for 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.320 net put us up thirty at thirty one, but there 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.800 was twenty seconds left. If you go down at the two, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.040 you can run the clock down to one second, pick 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.240 the field goal, and then there's the game's over. I 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.720 get that, and I know that works time. It still 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.800 would scare me because, like if he scores, we know 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.280 we got the touchdown. If you make a kick a 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.120 field goal, maybe there's a bad snap, maybe it slips 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.560 through Bradley Pinion's fingers, so I'll take the touchdown. But 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.400 in any case, twenty six left on the clock, they 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.240 had one time out. They have to get a touchdown 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.720 on a field goal. Obviously, do you already have the answer? 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.960 Do you want to let me know? Okay? Uh? I 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:15.000 was right. So the Bucks probably don't have much to 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.880 worry about. They've got to go the length of the field. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:22.520 And so Bradley Pinion had kicked every kickoff into the 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.680 end zone, all for touchbacks in his first six which 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.760 is what he usually does. Sure, he kicks this one 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.920 four yards deep in the end zone, But because they 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.640 had nothing to lose, they run it out and it's 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.120 the same guy as they Rodgers on the return, and 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.840 boy does he find a seam to the He does 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.440 a little counter. He starts a little bit to his 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.920 right and encounters to the left and gets through a 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.640 gap and then he's out on the open. We're all terrified, 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:50.680 and uh, Mike Edwards was playing the They called the 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.840 outside guys. You know, you got eleven guys lined up 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:54.280 with the kicker into the old five on each side. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.880 They call the outside guys safeties on that in that 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.320 from kickoff coverage. So my Edwards is the safety on 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.959 the left side are our left side, but the right 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.440 side of the return team the return goes the other way. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.560 But as the guy on that side, your first job 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.160 is to keep your lane and make sure you don't 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.480 leave the end open. So if it reverses around your way, 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.880 you're so he can't he can't start going over too soon. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.040 But then if he gets he's written down to about 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.280 the their thirty when it's clear that the returns going 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:27.720 the other way, so his best thing to do is 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.880 go in that direction. And then as he starts going 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.920 horizontally across the field, Roger starts breaking through and so 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:38.080 now Edwards changes his angle and is running back down 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.480 towards the buck sideline, but at an angle that he 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.560 hopes can intercept the guy. Right, because he got past 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.560 every everybody else. Everybody else. Okay, Patrick O'Connor was coming in, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.879 but I don't think he could match the speed of 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.080 this guy. And Giovanni Bernard was a few steps behind, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:58.480 and Uh Edwards manages to make it there and actually 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.119 almost overshoots it. The guy make a little move underneath them, 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.720 but he grabs. He's able to grab him with his 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.520 left arm as he goes by and spin him out 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.120 of bounds. Awesome play, right. I did some next Gin 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.359 looking up on that to write an article about it, 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.880 and Mike Edwards ran reached the top speed of twenty 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.520 nine miles per hour on that play as he was 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.040 pursuing the guy, and after the game, coach Arians just 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:24.239 anecdotally had said that was the fastest Mike has run 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.600 all year. I don't know if Bruce Arians knows about 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.520 next Gen stats or cares about him, but but they 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.480 proved he was right. I looked it up. That was 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.359 the fastest he has run at any point this season. Now, 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.600 how fast was the returner running twenty one point three 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.280 nine was his top, which was faster than Mike, but 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:46.600 Mike at the end. So Mike, it's like you see 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.800 the figures floating in front of your eyes and space. 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:54.040 It's like you're a beautiful mind here. Um he so 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.280 he um. I lost my trade thought. He also ran 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:01.439 one point eight yards on the play because of all 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.760 the looping around, farthest he's run on any play this season. 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.440 So to save the game, Mike Edwards had run farther 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.359 and faster than he has at any point this season, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.359 and he did it. Were you just like shaking your 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.520 head when it was going on? Well, to me, it 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.960 was like in slow motion. I was in an elevator 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.399 with a little TV in the corner, uh, and like 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.720 what is going on? And Jeff, okay, so we're going 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.639 down the elevator. We're getting you. As you said, the 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.440 prespect was on the top level. Get on the elevator. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:29.960 And I don't where these guys came from because we 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.639 were already on the top level. But whatever, weren't we 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.520 on the top Lew was one of bumps. We were 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.199 on the top level anyway, I'm on the only thing 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.680 higher than us were the girders I'm on the elevator 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.320 writing down. There's about five people, most of the media, 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.520 and there's a person running the elevator. And then there's 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:46.720 this kind of uh, shady looking guy in a Colts jersey, 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.560