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Speaker 2: Of the Queen Fast so.
Speaker 1: That's where our double secret location is currently. Uh. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about today. It's been a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago on a little hiatus of our
Speaker 1: recording schedule.
Speaker 3: But uh, I'm prepared to turn the floor over to
Speaker 3: you because you have had a absolutely, very very sad
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I feel for you.
Speaker 1: My thoughts have been with you. We've talked a lot
Speaker 1: get text. But how are you doing now that I
Speaker 1: get to see you in person?
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm tired. It's the first hard word that
Speaker 2: comes through my mind is being tired. Uh, just emotionally, physically,
Speaker 2: like mentally, I'm exhausted. For those of you who don't
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, my mom My mom passed
Speaker 2: away last Friday, August eighteenth, so you know, two weeks
Speaker 2: prior to that, she had been going downhill. And those
Speaker 2: who listened to this show or or follow me on
Speaker 2: social media, you guys know my journey, my family's journey
Speaker 2: with my mom. You know, when my dad and my
Speaker 2: sister had passed away, they died four days apart from
Speaker 2: each other. When my dad was on his deathbed, he
Speaker 2: had asked me to take care of my mother and
Speaker 2: I said I would, and I just got married. You know,
Speaker 2: my husband and I never had that honeymoon period where
Speaker 2: you can just be alone and enjoy each other and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. We took my mom in because she
Speaker 2: was alone, and you know, she was the type of
Speaker 2: person that didn't drive, she didn't pay the bills like
Speaker 2: my dad did everything. So you know, I felt like
Speaker 2: she was kind of lost and I didn't want her
Speaker 2: to be by herself, so we took her in, and
Speaker 2: God blessed my husband for doing it, because who wants
Speaker 2: to live with their mother in law right after they
Speaker 2: get married. You know, he's a special breed and that's
Speaker 2: part of the reason why I love him so much.
Speaker 2: But you know, that was fourteen years ago, and I
Speaker 2: would say the last year is when she really started
Speaker 2: to decline. And we noticed that she wasn't walking anymore,
Speaker 2: she was losing her eyesight, she couldn't hear very well.
Speaker 2: I had her on a baby monitor so I can
Speaker 2: see her. Because you know, she could have walked to
Speaker 2: the bathroom anymore. I had to comeote in her room,
Speaker 2: so I would have to run up there and help
Speaker 2: her go to the bathroom. We had bought her a
Speaker 2: recliner and automatic recline you with the butt and that
Speaker 2: helps you get up and down because she was having
Speaker 2: trouble like getting up off of the chair to go
Speaker 2: to the bathroom, stuff like that. So the last year
Speaker 2: was really really bad. And then I started noticing her
Speaker 2: appetite was declining, and I would get so frustrated. Any
Speaker 2: caregivers out there you know what I'm talking about. I
Speaker 2: would get so frustrated. She would ask me for these
Speaker 2: foods and I would go to the supermarket and I
Speaker 2: would buy the stuff that she wanted and I would
Speaker 2: cook it, and then she would eat like one or
Speaker 2: two bites and she would say it won't go down.
Speaker 2: I can't eat. I just I'm not hungry, and at
Speaker 2: the time, I get so frustrated with her because I'm
Speaker 2: making all you know, I'm making food for her, I'm
Speaker 2: making food for my kids, for myself. My husband takes
Speaker 2: care of him because you know, he's a carnivore and
Speaker 2: he just needs me.
Speaker 1: Just buy something in the backyard to jump on and
Speaker 1: then you know, just.
Speaker 2: Forty two steaks in my freezer, just gonna get a
Speaker 2: steak and he's good to go. But you know, it
Speaker 2: was frustrating, but I wanted in my mind, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe if I make her this, she'll eat more. And
Speaker 2: she never did. And it just the year it just
Speaker 2: started declining. So I had a talk with her lung
Speaker 2: doctor and he had mentioned failing to thrive, and that's
Speaker 2: what happens when they stopped walking, their appetite decreases. I know,
Speaker 2: she was dehydrated, she barely drank anything, and she was
Speaker 2: just getting weaker and weaker. I could tell, like when
Speaker 2: I would touch her arm, all you would feel was bone.
Speaker 2: She had no muscle mass left, and it was depressing.
Speaker 2: It was really hard to watch her decline like this.
Speaker 2: And for the longest time, it was it was just us.
Speaker 2: For the fourteen years. It was me, my husband, and
Speaker 2: my kids. We didn't have any outside help, you know,
Speaker 2: and it was just us. No one helped us. So
Speaker 2: we didn't really go anywhere. We went to Disney because
Speaker 2: we were able to take her to my sister's house
Speaker 2: for those two weeks, but that was it.
Speaker 1: That was you know.
Speaker 2: We couldn't even the last year, we couldn't even really
Speaker 2: go to dinner and sit down because we couldn't leave
Speaker 2: her alone. So we were kind of like prisoners in
Speaker 2: our own home, so to speak. I was just afraid
Speaker 2: something would happen to her if we would leave her alone,
Speaker 2: and so we didn't. She kept declining and then at
Speaker 2: one point she was barely eating. And so when they
Speaker 2: said failing to thrive, they had mentioned hospice, and he said,
Speaker 2: with hospice, you know, it doesn't mean in six months
Speaker 2: she will actually you know, passed away for sure. Every
Speaker 2: six months the doctor, can you know, renew this prescription
Speaker 2: for hospice. It's just to get some help in she
Speaker 2: had bed sore that I was taking care of that.
Speaker 2: He was just like, you shouldn't be doing all this.
Speaker 2: You need help. At this point, so two weeks before
Speaker 2: she passed, I called hospice and I found this place
Speaker 2: and I got the best nurse. She a doll. She
Speaker 2: had such a bedside matter with my mother and treated
Speaker 2: my mom great, treated my family great. And this is
Speaker 2: such a cute story where my mom was still coherent
Speaker 2: and could talk. She said to me, she said to me,
Speaker 2: do you think that you'll be friends with the nurse?
Speaker 2: Her name is black. You think you guys would be
Speaker 2: friends after I pass? And I said, oh, I don't know. Mom,
Speaker 2: I said, maybe, you know, we'll see what happens. And
Speaker 2: so for the two weeks she came and she cared
Speaker 2: for her, and I would say the two days before
Speaker 2: she died, the whole family came over. She got to
Speaker 2: see all her grandkids, which she was still sitting up
Speaker 2: and talking. The day after that, you couldn't understand her anymore.
Speaker 2: Her voice was very faint. It took effort for her
Speaker 2: to talk. And something told me that she was going
Speaker 2: to pass by the next day. And uh, I you know,
Speaker 2: I had the monitor on. I ran in there as
Speaker 2: much every time I heard her. I would run in
Speaker 2: the room because they tell you like, there's morphine to
Speaker 2: keep them comfortable. Thank god, my mom wasn't in pain
Speaker 2: the whole time. There was no pain that we could tell.
Speaker 2: The only thing that she would do was cough, and
Speaker 2: when she would cough, they told me to give her.
Speaker 2: It was a very low dose of morphine, and I
Speaker 2: hated giving it to her, but it did help her.
Speaker 2: It opens up the lungs, made her breathe easier. You know,
Speaker 2: she was on oxygen, so she was having trouble breathing anyway.
Speaker 2: So I think the whole two weeks, I think I
Speaker 2: might have gave it to her four or five times
Speaker 2: at the most, and a very low dose, but there
Speaker 2: was no pain. The morning that she did pass I
Speaker 2: woke up at five and I looked at the monitor
Speaker 2: and I knew. I noticed her hands off the side
Speaker 2: of the bed, and I knew she was going. I
Speaker 2: didn't have it in need to go into the room
Speaker 2: at that point because everybody was asleep and I didn't
Speaker 2: want to start, you know, crying, so I forced myself
Speaker 2: to stay in bed, but I just watched the monitor.
Speaker 2: I was hoping she would move, and she didn't. You know,
Speaker 2: she had passed. She died in her sleep, which I
Speaker 2: prayed so hard for it because I didn't want her
Speaker 2: to suffer, obviously, But when the nurse came going back
Speaker 2: to the cute story, she said, you were my favorite
Speaker 2: family and the short time that I've known you guys,
Speaker 2: you were just my favorites. And she said, maybe after
Speaker 2: this is all over, you and I can do lunch
Speaker 2: or dinner. And I looked at her and I said,
Speaker 2: oh my god. My mom asked me if you and
Speaker 2: I were going to be friends, and now you're asking
Speaker 2: me if you want to, you know, to keep in touch.
Speaker 2: So in a way, like my mom brought me a
Speaker 2: new friend out of this whole thing, and we've been
Speaker 2: in touch. You know, it's been a week now that
Speaker 2: she's passed, but we've been texting and she's such a
Speaker 2: wonderful person and I just, I, you know, it's weird,
Speaker 2: but I like my mom made me make a friend
Speaker 2: because I just it just brought a smile to my face,
Speaker 2: the way she said that, Oh she's so nice. Maybe
Speaker 2: you guys will be friends, because you know what, even
Speaker 2: though we've lived here forever, this area, there's all old people.
Speaker 2: I don't really have a lot of friends near me,
Speaker 2: so having somebody close would be so nice. And I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, in a way. My mom brought
Speaker 2: her and I together and hopefully it'll it'll be a
Speaker 2: good friendship out of it. But I'm just right now
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with guilt, and the guilt is I'm looking
Speaker 2: back number one. All because we didn't know she was
Speaker 2: going to pass so soon. Right, You put them in
Speaker 2: hospice and they they have a thing where like every
Speaker 2: like after the first ninety days, the caregivers get a
Speaker 2: break and they take them for five nights and they
Speaker 2: look after them in the facility for no charge. Medicare
Speaker 2: covers it, and the caregivers get to do something. So
Speaker 2: we were like, oh, ninety days, so we can you know,
Speaker 2: we can go in November and we can take the
Speaker 2: kids maybe somewhere. I don't know, because we haven't been
Speaker 2: anywhere in a really long time. We were looking ahead
Speaker 2: of time. We had no idea it was going to
Speaker 2: be this soon. We and she wasn't that bad. It
Speaker 2: was like a light switched boom and she just went
Speaker 2: downhill really quickly. So when we called hospice, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like she was like going to die. Like we didn't
Speaker 2: think she was going to die that soon. We thought
Speaker 2: she had some life in her. She was still on
Speaker 2: the chair, she was still watching her TV. You know.
Speaker 2: It was just like when hospice came, they were like,
Speaker 2: get her a hospital bed. So we broke down the furniture.
Speaker 2: We had a hospital bed installed, and it was quick.
Speaker 2: I had no idea in two weeks time she would
Speaker 2: be gone. And she went from talking to the nurses
Speaker 2: to having life in her to just nothing. And it
Speaker 2: was so the guilt that I feel because everything she
Speaker 2: would always say to me, I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: here forever, I'm like, oh, you're probably going to be
Speaker 2: here another five years. Stop it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You feel frustration, like I said, when they don't eat,
Speaker 2: like I felt like, you know, I feel bad because
Speaker 2: I can't take my kids anywhere, and my kids. My
Speaker 2: kids are so good and patient, and they understood, for
Speaker 2: being so young, they still understood like we'll have our
Speaker 2: time eventually, like this is now. We have to take
Speaker 2: care of my mom, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: they were so good about everything. And I'm just going
Speaker 2: through guilt because I miss her terribly now. But when
Speaker 2: she was alive, I'm sitting here thinking, man, I wish
Speaker 2: we could do this, and I wish we could do that,
Speaker 2: and now she's not here anymore, I think guilt. It's
Speaker 2: just like it's overwhelming, and everybody tells me I shouldn't
Speaker 2: feel that way, because you know, I did take care
Speaker 2: of her and I didn't put her in a home,
Speaker 2: and I did everything I could for and I'm proud
Speaker 2: of that. I'm proud that we did that. But I
Speaker 2: still think about all the thoughts that I had in
Speaker 2: my head, like I never wanted her to pass, Don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, but I used to think, like, man,
Speaker 2: I wish we could just pick up and go somewhere,
Speaker 2: which everybody's telling me, you're human, you're normal. You think
Speaker 2: you're the only one that ever thought that. Probably not,
Speaker 2: but it's I still feel guilty about it, especially now
Speaker 2: since she's gone, you know, and like I was cleaning
Speaker 2: out her room, Bob. It's just it's it's so overwhelming.
Speaker 2: I've lived with her almost fifty years of my life,
Speaker 2: besides one year when I first got married. I lived
Speaker 2: in an apartment with my husband before we bought our house,
Speaker 2: and she was still with my dad. And then she
Speaker 2: she was alone, I think for not even six months
Speaker 2: or something, and then that's when we took her. So
Speaker 2: for almost fifty years of my life, I've been with her,
Speaker 2: and it's it's we had such a bond. It's just
Speaker 2: so hard to have her not be here. And I
Speaker 2: still look for the monitor. I still hear her call
Speaker 2: my name. It's I can hear her in my head,
Speaker 2: call in my name. I still want to go check
Speaker 2: on her to make sure she's okay. And there's just
Speaker 2: no one in the room. It's just so empty. The
Speaker 2: silence is deafening in my house.
Speaker 1: It's just.
Speaker 2: It's like my husband's and it's going to be the
Speaker 2: new norm and we have to get used to it.
Speaker 2: But my god, it's it's so hard to process. Just
Speaker 2: she's always been here, so it's hard to have her
Speaker 2: not here, and I just feel so guilty. She was here.
Speaker 1: During recordings, we would hear her her walker going across
Speaker 1: the floor, and you say, oh, excuse that, that's my
Speaker 1: mom going across the floor.
Speaker 2: So she was.
Speaker 1: She made many appearance on the podcast. But you know,
Speaker 1: you just you did such an amazing job of caregiving
Speaker 1: and getting to know that world a little bit professionally
Speaker 1: for a short time. You know, I saw what professional
Speaker 1: caregivers can provide versus the actual caregivers the family, and
Speaker 1: the way you dedicated so much of your life to
Speaker 1: her care is so admirable. And I'm not blowing smoke,
Speaker 1: and this is legit. I mean I because I saw,
Speaker 1: you know, my family. It's odd the trajectory of your
Speaker 1: mom and my grandma, how they were both ninety three
Speaker 1: and they were both judging along and living fine, and
Speaker 1: then woof this year, I mean they both got actually
Speaker 1: within a month of each other. My grandma died in July.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's you just have done such an
Speaker 1: amazing job as a caregiver. You know, you you can
Speaker 1: feel all these emotions because of that time that you spent.
Speaker 1: But you were such a good daughter and a good
Speaker 1: soldier and a good child, and you did everything that Honestly,
Speaker 1: I could not have done a quarter or a schmidgen
Speaker 1: of what you did for your mom over these years,
Speaker 1: especially the fourteen years as she's lived with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the whole fourteen years wasn't bad. You know,
Speaker 2: she was downstairs most of the time. You know, she
Speaker 2: could walk the stairs. She was healthier. She helped me
Speaker 2: a lot with my kids. Like my kids, we called
Speaker 2: them a hold babies like she would. They wouldn't go
Speaker 2: for a nap, She would hold them for two hours.
Speaker 2: They would nap on her. She watched her shows, and
Speaker 2: she loved loved my kids with all our heart. I
Speaker 2: mean she she was a wonderful woman. She was a
Speaker 2: wonderful mother. It's just my guilt, That's what I'm dealing with,
Speaker 2: Like I feel bad thinking certain things. I never never
Speaker 2: wished her harm, never thought, oh my god, I wish
Speaker 2: it wasn't here. I just my thing in my head was, man,
Speaker 2: I wish I had more help so I can do
Speaker 2: stuff with my kids, because I felt like my kids suffered,
Speaker 2: you know, like everybody's going on vacation and they're going
Speaker 2: to the beach and they're going here and they're going there.
Speaker 2: And we never got to do that really because she
Speaker 2: wasn't healthy enough to be left alone. And so despite
Speaker 2: the Disney trip, which was wonderful and we loved it,
Speaker 2: for fifty weeks of the year, we were just here
Speaker 2: and couldn't really do anything for a very long time
Speaker 2: because we didn't have any help. We didn't have anybody
Speaker 2: come in, and I just would think to myself, I
Speaker 2: wish it was different. I wish, you know, I wish
Speaker 2: she was healthy so we can do these things. And
Speaker 2: it's not like she was ever going to get better.
Speaker 2: It was mainly her heart that gave because she, you know,
Speaker 2: she was a fib She had had a triple bypassed
Speaker 2: like twenty one years ago, so it was her heart.
Speaker 2: But then she had lung and kidney problems as well,
Speaker 2: so she you know, she had a trifectave of bad
Speaker 2: luck going on with her. And to live till ninety
Speaker 2: three is awesome, I mean really, you know, God bless
Speaker 2: her for doing that. But it's just as sad as
Speaker 2: I am that she's not here. My guilt is just
Speaker 2: overwhelming and that's something that I have to deal with
Speaker 2: and time will help that, I'm sure, But like I
Speaker 2: looked it up, and I'm not the only one. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of daughters and sons that are thinking the
Speaker 2: same thing in their heads because they sacrificed so much
Speaker 2: to take care of their loved ones. And I'm not
Speaker 2: sorry that I did it, and I'd probably do it
Speaker 2: again if I had to, which thank god, I do not,
Speaker 2: you know, but the guilt is what I'm dealing with now,
Speaker 2: and some days I'm okay, And then some days I
Speaker 2: get sick to my stomach because when she was on
Speaker 2: her deathbed and she could still hear me, all I
Speaker 2: kept saying to her is I was holding her hand,
Speaker 2: and I kept saying, I'm so sorry. I'm just sorry
Speaker 2: that I you know, if I said something or I
Speaker 2: did something, and she kept saying, stop, stop, I'm so
Speaker 2: grateful to you. I love you, and that's all she
Speaker 2: kept saying to me. And I just didn't need to
Speaker 2: get over that because I know, I know we did
Speaker 2: all we could. I know it. It's just these these
Speaker 2: thoughts in my head. I feel bad for thinking, you know,
Speaker 2: I wish she was here. I wish I could hug
Speaker 2: her and tell her I love her again. And it's
Speaker 2: just it's gonna take a while, that's all, you know.
Speaker 2: But God, she was a good woman. She was the
Speaker 2: best mom, and I'm gonna miss her so but thank
Speaker 2: you to everyone who reached out, you know, and sent
Speaker 2: prayers and well wishes, and she she's just a huge
Speaker 2: part of her lives. And I know she's with my
Speaker 2: dad and my sister now, so she's I'm not suffering,
Speaker 2: although I don't really think she was suffering. You know,
Speaker 2: she wasn't in any pain, which was a blessing. So
Speaker 2: so I deal with that. And she died on Friday.
Speaker 2: And what day was it? Was? It Monday? My husband
Speaker 2: is like, uh, I have a pain. I didn't sleep.
Speaker 2: I didn't sleep well. It was either Monday or Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what day it was this week. Uh.
Speaker 2: And he had to for work. He had to go
Speaker 2: drive somewhere, pretty decent drive, you know, and he said,
Speaker 2: I'm having a pain in my side. But he works
Speaker 2: out like religiously, and he thought maybe he pulled a
Speaker 2: muscle something with his abs. He wasn't sure what was
Speaker 2: going on. So he makes the drive and he's driving
Speaker 2: home and he calls me and he says, it's a
Speaker 2: really bad pain. He said, I'm going to go to
Speaker 2: med Express. So I'm like okay. And as soon as
Speaker 2: he goes into met Express, the doctor sees him. He goes,
Speaker 2: you have to go to the er, and he's like okay.
Speaker 2: So he calls me and he says, I'm going to
Speaker 2: the er and he's updated me and blah blah blah. Well,
Speaker 2: here it's his appendix. And when they did the surgery,
Speaker 2: they go in and it's leaking all over the place.
Speaker 2: So thank god he went when he did, because he
Speaker 2: could have died. If you know, that stuff is toxic,
Speaker 2: it's like poison, and he would have went septic and
Speaker 2: it could have killed him. And God was watching it.
Speaker 2: I think my mom made him go to the to
Speaker 2: the the met Express and the er. I swear she
Speaker 2: gave him a little nudge and said, get that taken
Speaker 2: care of because honestly, after the week I've had, I
Speaker 2: really can't deal with much more right now. So he's
Speaker 2: been in the hospital all week and I went over
Speaker 2: I got over there twice this week to visit him
Speaker 2: and stuff. Hopefully he'll be home this weekend. But he's
Speaker 2: on an antibiotic and they're they're dreaming all of the
Speaker 2: bad stuff out of him. And he's on an IV
Speaker 2: drip because he was dehydrated. And I mean, this is
Speaker 2: a guy who takes care of himself, works out almost
Speaker 2: every day, eats right, you know, we take our supplements,
Speaker 2: all this stuff, and man, you gotta listen to your body. Please.
Speaker 2: If some even if you think, oh it couldn't be,
Speaker 2: get it checked out and make sure you're okay, because
Speaker 2: God forbid, I don't know what I would have did. Honestly,
Speaker 2: my nerves were so bad this week. I'm like, if
Speaker 2: I didn't have my kids, I would be day drinking
Speaker 2: every single day, every single day, I'd be day drinking
Speaker 2: because it's been Oh it's been a lot, you know.
Speaker 2: But I have good friends who have been, you know,
Speaker 2: talking me through it, and you're one of them, so
Speaker 2: thank you. I just uh, I'm just tired. Just I'm tired.
Speaker 2: And I have to learn how to live, you know,
Speaker 2: with a family of four instead of a family of five,
Speaker 2: and we'll get used to it. And we wanted to
Speaker 2: take the kids. We were going to you know, just
Speaker 2: to get out of the house. We were going to
Speaker 2: take the kids, you know, to the beach next week,
Speaker 2: and now we had to cancel that because hubbs Is
Speaker 2: is not doing well. So we'll get our time eventually,
Speaker 2: but right now we're just going through the motions.
Speaker 1: Man. I mean, anything else that was quite on Friday,
Speaker 1: mean my goodness, gracious, yeah, I mean that was. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that when you told me that the other day.
Speaker 1: That was like, that was And again, it's so smart
Speaker 1: to go to the met Express because with the lifting
Speaker 1: and the stuff that he does so very easily. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been dealing with a neck pain right for like
Speaker 1: three weeks. I haven't gotten it checked out. But what
Speaker 1: if it's like some crazy, ridiculous thing connected in my
Speaker 1: neck that's causing this problem. He got it checked out.
Speaker 1: I mean, he could have just easily pulled something as
Speaker 1: far as he knew in his side. That is just
Speaker 1: the timing and everything just worked out perfectly. That's the
Speaker 1: that's the divine intervention right there.
Speaker 2: That's my mom. I'm convinced that's my mom.
Speaker 1: If she kicked him in the ass, she's like to
Speaker 1: go to the damn.
Speaker 2: Under doctor and see what's going on. So I booked
Speaker 2: for myself. I scheduled an appointment with my primary and
Speaker 2: I'm going to get everything done. I have to get
Speaker 2: that upper and lower. What's that called when they stick
Speaker 2: the teabe down your throat and up up your butt
Speaker 2: and uh oh, I forget the I don't know when
Speaker 2: you're fifty you're supposed to get your first one. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Whatever it is. I'm getting an scheduling and
Speaker 2: upper and lower they can do it at the same.
Speaker 1: Time broadcasting live for the podcast.
Speaker 2: Perhaps should I live stream when I.
Speaker 1: Get right on your face when they put the thing in.
Speaker 2: Jesus, I'm getting that. I'm getting blood work done to check,
Speaker 2: you know, check everything's good. Then I have to go
Speaker 2: to the gynecologist, going to get my whuha checked, Gonna
Speaker 2: go get my boobies checked for a mammogram, and then
Speaker 2: I then the dentist, and then I should be up
Speaker 2: to date for the year. I'm getting it all done. Man,
Speaker 2: you gotta take care of yourself, and I got little
Speaker 2: ones to look after, so you know, we gotta we
Speaker 2: gotta get it done.
Speaker 1: But man, get it done. What a what a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. So I've been sitting here waiting for you paras.
Speaker 2: Last week, I just I couldn't mustard it. It was
Speaker 2: just it was too much, you know, it was I
Speaker 2: just I was just sitting I got about seventy i'd
Speaker 2: say seventy percent of her room done. I cleared out
Speaker 2: every drawer, every inch of her closet. I donated over
Speaker 2: I think it was like five bags to Purple Heart. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and her old suitcases because they were old. She still
Speaker 2: used them, God bless her. But it's we weren't going
Speaker 2: to use.
Speaker 1: Were they like the hard plastic one, like are the
Speaker 1: hard like the hard the plastic, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like those hard big ones like that with the big
Speaker 1: handle on the side, like.
Speaker 2: They had a handle and this the old fashion, like
Speaker 2: it looked like leather, but I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was leather.
Speaker 1: I know exactly the ones you're talking about. We're pulling
Speaker 1: them out of my grandma's house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she still used it once she went away, so
Speaker 2: I donated. I said, well, if they don't want it,
Speaker 2: they could just throw it out. But man, she had
Speaker 2: like old clothes and old linens, and I mean, I
Speaker 2: just I got rid of a bunch. I said to myself.
Speaker 2: She was a hoarder, and not a hoarder of junk.
Speaker 2: She was a hoarder of Like I found my dad's
Speaker 2: old credit cards. Wow, that have been expired for years
Speaker 2: because my dad's been gone forever. So there were papers
Speaker 2: she kept papers from like the teens, like twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: Like I was shredding, shredding papers, and there were the
Speaker 2: one suitcase was full of papers, and I said, what
Speaker 2: the hell is it? Like I literally sat there and
Speaker 2: at first I couldn't find the shredder. So I was
Speaker 2: ripping stuff up manually, and I probably didn't have to
Speaker 2: because they were so old, but in my mind, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: somebody finds this and steals identity or you know, if
Speaker 2: my name's on this. I want to get rid of everything,
Speaker 2: you know, And good lord, it took me forever to
Speaker 2: get rid of all these papers. And then like her
Speaker 2: drawers had every birthday, anniversary, greeting cards, like she just
Speaker 2: kept everything, and I, you know, looking through things, you're
Speaker 2: finding old pictures. It was just really emotional and I
Speaker 2: had to stop myself, Like I literally two days ago,
Speaker 2: I said, okay, I need a break. I'm walking out.
Speaker 2: It's just it's empty. But there's still little things here
Speaker 2: and there that I have to go in and I
Speaker 2: have to wash down the furniture. But that's there. I
Speaker 2: have plenty of time. I just I'm especially now with
Speaker 2: him in the hospital. I just needed a break, you know.
Speaker 2: So I just trying to juggle stuff. And the kids
Speaker 2: are still doing work, so I'm still doing work with them,
Speaker 2: and ugh, it's it just never ends, you know. I'm
Speaker 2: doing the best I can.
Speaker 1: So you know, well you did job.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and again I appreciate. Yeah, my
Speaker 2: Mom's always going to be with me, just like my
Speaker 2: dad and my sister. But I appreciate everybody reaching out
Speaker 2: and shout out to caregivers, because God bless you all.
Speaker 2: It is such a tedious job, but it's done with
Speaker 2: love and you will realize after they pass just how
Speaker 2: special you guys are and that you were to your
Speaker 2: loved ones. So I don't regret a day of it.
Speaker 2: And I just hope she knows how much I love her.
Speaker 1: I think she does, absolutely, Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, But a lot's happened, you know, especially the
Speaker 2: last couple of days. We've lost two greats in the
Speaker 2: business as well. Terry Funk, who I knew very well
Speaker 2: and worked with several times. Bray Wyatt, thirty six years old,
Speaker 2: dies of a heart attack due to COVID complications. My god,
Speaker 2: what is happening in this world? Terry had been sick
Speaker 2: for a long time. I knew, you know, we knew
Speaker 2: it was coming, we just didn't know when. But Bray,
Speaker 2: that came out of left field for me. Now, I
Speaker 2: never met the guy, but tremendous talent, and I heard
Speaker 2: he's one of the nicest people you could ever meet.
Speaker 2: So my heartbreaks for that family. He's got little ones,
Speaker 2: thirty six.
Speaker 1: Got incredible thirty six. Yeah, complications from COVID apparently that
Speaker 1: led to this heart issue to come to light. He
Speaker 1: had been off TV since I round the Royal Rumble
Speaker 1: and was about to be medically cleared to come back.
Speaker 1: But again, a guy that I would say online has
Speaker 1: received scrutiny by fans that don't like that style of
Speaker 1: you know, the supernatural and some of the vignettes and
Speaker 1: some of the things that they did, but by his
Speaker 1: peers just absolutely revered. And every single thing that I'm
Speaker 1: reading about him and from what I've known from people
Speaker 1: that were with him in developmental just again, like you said,
Speaker 1: the sweetest, nicest guy, very funny, always kind of in
Speaker 1: a light, happy mood. I mean, some of these tribuas
Speaker 1: they are coming in are just absolutely heartbreaking. And you know,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Terry Funk in a minute, but talk
Speaker 1: about you know, polar opposites in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: somebody who had yes, the sickness and then this one
Speaker 1: to come out of left field was just oh Man,
Speaker 1: just crippled the wrestling community over the last couple of days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that the tweet from Hunter you know, Triple H
Speaker 2: was just very vague, and then I saw I think
Speaker 2: it was Sean Ross sap about the heart attack. You know,
Speaker 2: thirty six years old, you're not supposed to be having
Speaker 2: heart attacks. What is going on? So many young people
Speaker 2: are just dropping like flies now and it's all heart related,
Speaker 2: which is scary to me. I just I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: it's this is heartbreaking, you know, and and it's it's
Speaker 2: terrible when you have young children, and he had young children,
Speaker 2: very young children. God, I I couldn't. I just couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2: My heart goes out to that family. It's it's a
Speaker 2: it's a terrible thing. You know. I'm not, I'm not
Speaker 2: the biggest w w E fan out there, but the
Speaker 2: stuff that I have seen of him was so unique
Speaker 2: and so different, and he just played that character so well.
Speaker 2: And man, it's so sad, so sad to see, uh,
Speaker 2: this happened to such a young person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about some of the stuff that he's
Speaker 1: we ever talked about like him directly. A lot of times.
Speaker 1: We talked about what the bray Wyatt character did for
Speaker 1: like the Alexa Bliss character and how it added that
Speaker 1: really creepy dimension to her, which you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll have that continue at some point
Speaker 1: or if that's now going to be written out forever.
Speaker 1: I mean, just again, it's not it wasn't everybody's cup
Speaker 1: of tea. But when somebody like that, that's so creative.
Speaker 1: The sad part was as they weren't hampering it a lot,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of starting and stopping, and
Speaker 1: people had talked about over the last year so kind
Speaker 1: of some mental health issues he might have had that
Speaker 1: led to departures, because remember he had stepped away if
Speaker 1: your call for a little while and came back just
Speaker 1: really late last year. And this is just like it
Speaker 1: just it's it's so just incredibly sad for the family
Speaker 1: and for the business too, because this guy had so
Speaker 1: many different thoughts that I don't think anybody could to
Speaker 1: put on paper except for that mind. And just now
Speaker 1: you know, fortunately that's that is just thirty six years old,
Speaker 1: is way too young, but also too oddly enough, you know.
Speaker 1: Brodie Lee was another member of the Wyatt family and storyline,
Speaker 1: but also had some issues, possibly stemming from the COVID
Speaker 1: sickness that he had that led to another thing coming
Speaker 1: to light and then him passing away tragically as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, these two guys were a stick of Steve's
Speaker 1: at one.
Speaker 2: Point said very sad and you mentioned like it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's not for everybody. Not everybody embraced the character. Well,
Speaker 2: guess what, it was different. It was fresh, it was
Speaker 2: something new, you know. Not everybody needs to do the
Speaker 2: same exact thing in the business, and that's that's why
Speaker 2: it's so refreshing when somebody comes up with a character
Speaker 2: that is out of the ordinary, and even if it's
Speaker 2: not like something you dig, you have to admit it
Speaker 2: was super creative, you know. And he did it well
Speaker 2: and it wasn't the norm, and kudos to him for
Speaker 2: doing something like that, thinking outside of the box and
Speaker 2: trying to bring something different to the screen that people
Speaker 2: could enjoy. You know. I thought that the character was
Speaker 2: brilliant and it was just something that we had never
Speaker 2: seen before. Really. I mean, we've talked about WWF being
Speaker 2: super cartoony at one point and just being like a
Speaker 2: Saturday morning cartoon because the characters were just ridiculous. Some
Speaker 2: might say this was cartoony. I don't feel like it
Speaker 2: fits into that category because it was so unique and
Speaker 2: so different from the rest of what anybody else was doing,
Speaker 2: and I just thought it was, you know, a brilliant
Speaker 2: take on you know, just tapping what this guy could do,
Speaker 2: tapping his town. And it's a shame because I feel
Speaker 2: like if if he would have came back, we would
Speaker 2: have seen stuff that we probably never seen before, like
Speaker 2: his wheels this whole time have probably been turning. Because
Speaker 2: if you're an entertainer in the business and you know
Speaker 2: you're going to make a comeback, that's all you think about.
Speaker 2: You think about what can I do to top what
Speaker 2: I did last? What am I going to do now
Speaker 2: to you know, make people talk about me or make
Speaker 2: the internet pop. And I'm sure he had a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff in the brain that he was gonna just unleash.
Speaker 2: And it's so so very sad for the business, yes,
Speaker 2: but more so for his family and for those young
Speaker 2: children that he left behind. So devastating news on that part.
Speaker 1: Very sad, absolutely, and they broke the news earlier this morning.
Speaker 1: They have scrapped creative plans for SmackDown, and I believe
Speaker 1: they'll be doing a tribute to Bray Wyatt for the
Speaker 1: entire duration. So that's uh, you know that, and that's
Speaker 1: that's how you know the the magnification of a loss
Speaker 1: in WWE world is when they scraped the creative and
Speaker 1: they give you the treatment of the full tribute. And
Speaker 1: that's I'm glad they're doing that. Yeah, that's really awesome.
Speaker 2: And also they're selling bray Whitet merchandise and all one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of the proceeds is going to Jojo, who
Speaker 2: was his girlfriend and the children, which is a class move.
Speaker 2: So I find that very admirable as well and good
Speaker 2: on WWE's part.
Speaker 1: So I saw this funny story right back posted earlier,
Speaker 1: just saying you know, he had posted something very heartfelt yesterday,
Speaker 1: but he shared a funny story because everybody always said
Speaker 1: Bray Whitt was very light and very funny and like
Speaker 1: to keep people laughing. He said, randomly before live events,
Speaker 1: Bray would come come find me on occasion to warm
Speaker 1: up and we would do this drill back and forth
Speaker 1: under hooks while bumping chest repeatedly until he was ready
Speaker 1: to go. He would always try to get me to
Speaker 1: break character when we were working with random things in
Speaker 1: the ring. Once we locked up, he told me that
Speaker 1: I had perfect nipples and started tussling around the ring
Speaker 1: with me. I never had a bad moment with him.
Speaker 1: I always remember laughing with him from f c W
Speaker 1: until the day I left.
Speaker 2: That's cute.
Speaker 1: Right back has perfect nipples. That's the thing I learned today.
Speaker 2: Here you go, So this uh the Smack Show? Is
Speaker 2: it also going to include Terry Funk?
Speaker 1: Well, I that's that is uh to be seen. Uh
Speaker 1: you know that to me? I I got said that
Speaker 1: text the other morning, but excuse me the other afternoon
Speaker 1: about Terry Funk And I mean that was he's been sick.
Speaker 1: He had been I think in some sort of you
Speaker 1: know home at some point living I couldn't get the
Speaker 1: name of my head and uh, you know, suffering from
Speaker 1: was it dementia showing your Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it was early signs of it.
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. I just the updates I always
Speaker 2: got was he's not doing that. Well that's what I've
Speaker 2: heard for years. Yeah you know, I'm just likeugh, okay,
Speaker 2: so I don't know, but you know, you know it's coming,
Speaker 2: but when it comes, it's like, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I knew my mom was
Speaker 2: eminent it was coming, but when it happens, your heart
Speaker 2: breaks because you don't want it to happen. So that's
Speaker 2: the same with Terry, Like we all knew it was
Speaker 2: gonna come. But you know he was only seventy nine.
Speaker 2: And people might say, well, seventy nine's old. Uh. You know,
Speaker 2: people are living longer these days. And if you have
Speaker 2: your health, you have everything. Money doesn't mean anything. Fame
Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything. Your health and your family. Those are
Speaker 2: the two most important things in life. Family health, that's it.
Speaker 2: And if you have those two things, you're a millionaire
Speaker 2: in my opinion. You know, And because you know, money
Speaker 2: doesn't make you live longer. Fame doesn't make you live longer.
Speaker 2: It doesn't hug you at night, it doesn't tell you
Speaker 2: I love you, So screw that. Give me my family,
Speaker 2: give me my health. That's what I want, and that's
Speaker 2: what I pray for. And so you know, at seventy
Speaker 2: nine years old, you could still have another good ten
Speaker 2: fifteen years. And I watched a video the other day
Speaker 2: the lady not the oldest lady in the world, she
Speaker 2: was ninety six years old, and it was it was
Speaker 2: a guy who just had a baby. It was a
Speaker 2: day old baby and the grandmother of the baby and
Speaker 2: the grandmother, or maybe she was the great grandmother. But
Speaker 2: she walked right in the room at the hospital and
Speaker 2: she was playing with the big so vibrant at ninety
Speaker 2: six years old. And I said, my god, I would
Speaker 2: love to live that long if I could be like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like if I had my
Speaker 2: wits about me, and I'm I can walk and I'm
Speaker 2: semi healthy. God bless her. She looked great and she's
Speaker 2: playing with the baby and she's like dancing with the baby.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, she's ninety six years old. People are
Speaker 2: living longer, yeah these days, So seventy nine, it's up there,
Speaker 2: but it's not super old.
Speaker 1: Right, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's sad. You know. I loved Terry. I've worked
Speaker 2: with Terry so many times. And I told you the
Speaker 2: hardest slap across my face I've ever taken, ever, Yes
Speaker 2: you have, that was Terry, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And out there he was a maniac, but when you
Speaker 2: got him in the back, soft spoken, sweetest man you'll
Speaker 2: ever meet. And I loved him. He was like a
Speaker 2: father figure to so many of us, you know, not
Speaker 2: to mention the goat of wrestling. I mean, tell me
Speaker 2: who's better than Terry Funk. Not nothing.
Speaker 1: I can't really tell you many. No, that's how many people.
Speaker 2: Can even compare to what Terry did for this business.
Speaker 1: A guy that went from a like, you know, technically
Speaker 1: sound wrestler NWA champion of the seventies eighties to this
Speaker 1: completely contrasting style reinventing himself, inspiring a generation of people,
Speaker 1: and helping a company grow in the nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the.
Speaker 1: Complete opposite style that he had. I mean it just
Speaker 1: he was incredible.
Speaker 2: He was amazing, And you know, I'm I'm one of
Speaker 2: the people who actually got to go to the ranch
Speaker 2: in Armadillo and see his family.
Speaker 1: And Amarillo, not Armada, Ardillo, Armadillo.
Speaker 2: What the hell am I talking about? Yeah, Amarillo. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I got to go there and I got to see
Speaker 2: his home and be with his family and just you know,
Speaker 2: know him on a different level besides just the wrestler
Speaker 2: Terry Funk, you know what I mean. And that's special
Speaker 2: to me because not many people can say they got
Speaker 2: to do something like that. Awesome to work with, but
Speaker 2: just a very very sweet and humble individual. Never came
Speaker 2: off as you know, larger than life, just the kind
Speaker 2: of like a good old boy, just loving what he
Speaker 2: did and taking pride in his work. And you know,
Speaker 2: good family man. You know, Vicky was a doll. His wife,
Speaker 2: his daughters were great. Just it's just sad, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's again. We knew it was coming, but it's
Speaker 2: just it's sad when it actually happens. So gosh, rest
Speaker 2: in peace. I loved him, he was he was a
Speaker 2: great man.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I posted the clip the day he passed of
Speaker 1: the night you bit his ear hallowing a championship attempt
Speaker 1: there by the franchise take the title from the Funker.
Speaker 1: But when you did have to interact with Funk, did
Speaker 1: you take did you turn it up a little bit more?
Speaker 1: Because you knew he was going to turn it up too,
Speaker 1: and it was gonna make it look that much better
Speaker 1: because when you jump on him, I mean, he's feverishly
Speaker 1: going after you just as hard as you're going after him.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you go over stuff in the
Speaker 2: back obviously sometimes, you know, sometimes because like I said,
Speaker 2: that slap wasn't supposed to be included that evening. That
Speaker 2: was just a spur of the moment thing. But like
Speaker 2: I remember on the we were on the outside and
Speaker 2: when he when we I didn't realize, like we were
Speaker 2: rolling in the ring and he we're under the rope.
Speaker 2: He rolls on top of me, and I'm like flatten
Speaker 2: like a pancake, and I'm like, okay, I need to
Speaker 2: just hold on to this guy because I wasn't sure, like,
Speaker 2: you know, am I taking a beal? Is he going
Speaker 2: to throw me? Like? What is what is happening here?
Speaker 2: I don't even know. All I know is I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to bite his ear like Holyfield and Tyson, you know,
Speaker 2: because that was what we were going for. And I
Speaker 2: don't even know if I knew he was gonna gig
Speaker 2: his ear. I can't. I don't even I don't even
Speaker 2: know how I'm a I don't think I I think
Speaker 2: he gigged. He had to have, but I don't know
Speaker 2: when that happened, because all I know when I got
Speaker 2: off him, I was covered in blood. And I told
Speaker 2: that story my mother was living. She was so and
Speaker 2: I get it. I understand that. You know, she doesn't
Speaker 2: know any of these people, and God knows what you
Speaker 2: know they're carrying in their bodies. I don't know what
Speaker 2: illnesses people have, and so I didn't want to be
Speaker 2: near blood. But the reaction of the crowd when I
Speaker 2: turned around, I'll never forget the hard camera. I turned
Speaker 2: around and I had all that and the faces were
Speaker 2: just like oh and I was like and I looked down,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh God, I got blood all over me.
Speaker 2: Like this is gross, you know what I mean. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I turned it up because I've always
Speaker 2: been one who tried to make it as real as possible,
Speaker 2: and I'm just reacting off of what my opponent or
Speaker 2: my counterpart is doing at the time. So like with Terry,
Speaker 2: he was so like full of rage and like you
Speaker 2: like literally scare to him when you're in the ring.
Speaker 2: Like I've heard stories about guys that he used to
Speaker 2: do things that they never expected, things that were never
Speaker 2: called in the back. He would just add spots and
Speaker 2: like you just go with it because it's Terry Funk,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But for me, like the
Speaker 2: slap across the face, the throwing me over the top
Speaker 2: rope to the floor, Like I don't think that part aired,
Speaker 2: but that was like I I'm laying there thinking like
Speaker 2: where the hell did that come? From like that wasn't
Speaker 2: disgusted in the back, but that was Terry and people
Speaker 2: popped for it and it looked great and I didn't
Speaker 2: get hurt. I was okay, thank god. You know, maybe
Speaker 2: if I got hurt, I'd feel a different way. But
Speaker 2: it worked, you know, and that he just man, he
Speaker 2: turned into a different person. But then we get into back,
Speaker 2: oh forazing was not okay, oh thank you, and he
Speaker 2: would hug me and it was just good old Terry.
Speaker 2: You know, that's just the way he was. So you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't suffer his wrath many times, but I remember
Speaker 2: when I did because it was something that I will
Speaker 2: never forget. And I'm privileged to say I got to
Speaker 2: work with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys were on the Terry Funk Retirement
Speaker 1: Show in ninety seven, the the big one at Armadillo,
Speaker 1: Texas outside of uh instead of the Double Cross Ranch,
Speaker 1: it'll be the Single Shot Ranch in Armadillo.
Speaker 2: Barbecue and a hodown and it was great. It was
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And he always considered Shane to be his best opponent
Speaker 1: in the E. CW era because obviously they had such
Speaker 1: a big history. But I honestly feel like, like you
Speaker 1: two were such a good foil for that character of
Speaker 1: the conquering hero, you know, the the legend, the guy
Speaker 1: who was there. But when he won the title, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like he won the title and it was Terry.
Speaker 1: This is like it was like almost like seemed like
Speaker 1: a present to Terry Funk for all his accomplishments and
Speaker 1: fun for ECW. Is that what the locker room feeling was,
Speaker 1: is Terry Funk atting the because he didn't have it
Speaker 1: that long, but for him getting the belt around the
Speaker 1: time you guys are going on pay per view? Is
Speaker 1: that something that the locker room feels some pride in
Speaker 1: is that this guy's helped us so much at this
Speaker 1: point he deserves to lead us for this short term,
Speaker 1: knowing it's not going to be this long, exhausted run.
Speaker 1: But you guys all felt all in the same page
Speaker 1: that he was the right guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I I remember like when he won it, and
Speaker 2: I believe when he came in the back, everybody like
Speaker 2: gave him a standing ovation and people were going up
Speaker 2: to and shaking his hand and congratulating him. You know,
Speaker 2: he deserved it, And I feel like, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: being able to say Terry Funk was an ECW champion.
Speaker 2: I think it gave the belt a lot of credibility
Speaker 2: because he had done so much, you know, all over
Speaker 2: the territories and for other companies, and it just made
Speaker 2: sense at that point to let Terry carry the company,
Speaker 2: whether it be you know, for a short time or
Speaker 2: a long time. And at that point we knew that
Speaker 2: it wasn't going to be forever, by I think it
Speaker 2: was the right thing to do, and I think Terry
Speaker 2: took a lot of pride in that, and any interview
Speaker 2: that I see that Terry ever did, I think he
Speaker 2: always says like his best time in the business was
Speaker 2: e CW. Like I remember hearing that several times, and
Speaker 2: and that makes me feel good, you know, because you
Speaker 2: take pride in your work. But I've always said ECW
Speaker 2: is something special, and I could say un till the
Speaker 2: cows come home, but you hear other people say it
Speaker 2: as well. And if you hear Terry Funk say it,
Speaker 2: oh man, that is a very high accolade, you know.
Speaker 2: And we loved having him there, absolutely loved it, and
Speaker 2: I think he brought more credibility to our company and
Speaker 2: we were better for having him with us.
Speaker 1: He actually holds it from April to August.
Speaker 2: So yeah, not a bad run.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad run at all for Funk. And look,
Speaker 1: every article that I've read so ECW is basically in
Speaker 1: the first paragraph because it was such a defining thing
Speaker 1: for his reinvention. And then you know, it sucked when
Speaker 1: he left. ECW went to WCW round ninety nine to
Speaker 1: two thousand when everybody was starting to really get sucked up,
Speaker 1: and they tried to do the hardcore stuff with him
Speaker 1: there and it just it didn't work. But you just
Speaker 1: knew he became the embodiment of ECW because if you
Speaker 1: guys were the and I hate always say the misfit
Speaker 1: toys or the you know, that's so lame to say that.
Speaker 1: A guy like Terry Funk, who basically had you know,
Speaker 1: promoters on the edge of their heels all the time,
Speaker 1: and Vince McMahon specifically, he had basically in the palm
Speaker 1: of his hand. He was so perfect for ECW because
Speaker 1: he was the embodiment of that misfit because this is
Speaker 1: the guy who was at the NWA champion on top
Speaker 1: of the world in Japan. You know, the legend he was.
Speaker 1: But he wanted to stay in ECW, and that was
Speaker 1: what was so cool and made ECW really stand out,
Speaker 1: I think along the mainstream fans that didn't really know
Speaker 1: what ECW was right.
Speaker 2: And again, you can't follow him for leaving because at
Speaker 2: this point, what was he like, fifty four fifty five
Speaker 2: years old?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was up there at that point, we.
Speaker 2: Were getting up there. But you got to think at
Speaker 2: that age, like how many more runs do I have? Now?
Speaker 2: We know Terry had eighty seven more runs now, but
Speaker 2: go for the money. I never faulted anyone for leaving
Speaker 2: for green or pastures. You know, if it was just
Speaker 2: work related, I think Terry would have stayed. If he
Speaker 2: could have got the same money that WCW was offering him,
Speaker 2: he definitely would have stayed with us, right, but they
Speaker 2: were throwing money left and right to people. So I
Speaker 2: don't blame anyone for jump and ship Like, there's no
Speaker 2: not an ount to me. Can can say, well, that
Speaker 2: guy's an asshole because he left. No, he's smart because
Speaker 2: he has a family. And if you're making x amount
Speaker 2: here but can make triple here, what's the obvious choice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the wrestling might be shitty, but you got to get
Speaker 2: paid because how much longer can you actually do this?
Speaker 2: For some people it could be a year. For Terry Funk,
Speaker 2: it could be thirty.
Speaker 1: So you know it was Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it depends. He retired more times than than I've
Speaker 2: actually been on this earth. But you know, God bless him.
Speaker 2: He's done so much for the wrestling business and we
Speaker 2: have lost a true hero in this sport. So rest
Speaker 2: easy to Terry Funk and also to Bray Wyatt. Two
Speaker 2: good ones.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So before we wrap up and we get to
Speaker 1: the the outro, one more topic I want to bring you.
Speaker 1: I know, you know it's a we've been a little
Speaker 1: heavy on the you know, the on the death tone
Speaker 1: right now for the but got it. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: to kind of stay in that depressive zone a little
Speaker 1: bit and we have to talk about what happened, and
Speaker 1: that is somebody you're very familiar with. Former WWE star
Speaker 1: Tammy Sitch, faces twenty five years in prison after no
Speaker 1: contest plea to dui causing death charge. Were you able
Speaker 1: to follow this story as it was going on, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's been going on for so long, but
Speaker 1: this has been the latest in the craziness that's been
Speaker 1: this horrible death of the guy that was killed in
Speaker 1: his car. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was getting text messages you know, you know
Speaker 2: when something breaks, like all the boys text each other
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. So yeah, I was informed about this. Now,
Speaker 2: no contest compared to not guilty or guilty plea? What
Speaker 2: is the difference between the two terms? Is no contest
Speaker 2: emitting your guilt?
Speaker 1: Exact?
Speaker 2: I didn't really look anything up. I don't know if
Speaker 2: no contest is like a plea to get less time.
Speaker 1: Or Okay, so pleading no contest means that you will
Speaker 1: be convicted of the crime. However, you get to avoid
Speaker 1: a lengthy trial.
Speaker 2: Oh so it just skips the trial? Yes, what in
Speaker 2: a plea of guilty just skip the trial as well? Like,
Speaker 2: what's the difference in being guilty and being no contest?
Speaker 1: I would have to say, we might want to contact
Speaker 1: the law firm of Stephn p Newt.
Speaker 2: I don't understand what that means. But anyway, heartbreaking news.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody can shit on Tammy as much as
Speaker 2: she wants or as much as they want. Rather, I
Speaker 2: this hurts my heart to see this happening. Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know how many times I have to say this
Speaker 2: like disappointment, sadness. I never wanted to see her like this,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like Jesus, I was praying
Speaker 2: that she got herself together after the last one, like
Speaker 2: we talked and you know, could start over again. When
Speaker 2: we went to restle Kate. I mean, she was wonderful.
Speaker 2: I can't even express how much fun we had that weekend.
Speaker 2: It was. It was great. And then just everything happened
Speaker 2: after that and that it breaks my heart, you know,
Speaker 2: But you make your own choices. I've said that a
Speaker 2: million times, like you have to deal with the consequences.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, this is where we're at with her, so
Speaker 2: very very sad. I feel. I feel more people are
Speaker 2: commenting on the way she looks rather than the actual crime.
Speaker 2: It's just sad. It's sad. I know, it's just sad,
Speaker 2: and that's all I can say about it.
Speaker 1: And that is a very superficial thing, you know, for
Speaker 1: people to comment on the look. If we could flip
Speaker 1: the mirror around and show a lot of people that
Speaker 1: are commenting, I'm sure they wouldn't look any bit better.
Speaker 1: But you got to realize where the present state is
Speaker 1: of where she's at. And unfortunately this is probably beginning
Speaker 1: to really take a toll, you know, in a way
Speaker 1: that it couldn't because again I referenced, you know, when
Speaker 1: we had her on for the full length interview, which
Speaker 1: people have asked me to release that full interview, which
Speaker 1: we didn't because it was only available for the full
Speaker 1: on Patreon. I think I might do that for our
Speaker 1: members first, and if you want to grab it, you
Speaker 1: might have to grab a membership. I hate to plug
Speaker 1: the YouTube membership there. But that interview is so telling
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because it seemed like somebody
Speaker 1: who thought they were bulletproof in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: and this image that we see now does not. And
Speaker 1: that's where it finally seems like it's sinking in that
Speaker 1: oh shit, you know, my number's up.
Speaker 2: It's like maybe she's just giving up at this point,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You know, I can't imagine
Speaker 2: what's running through her head, like because good lord, you know,
Speaker 2: you to spend even a day in jail is terrifying
Speaker 2: to me, But to have to maybe spend a quarter
Speaker 2: of a century she would get out at seventy five
Speaker 2: years old, like your whole life is ruined. You know
Speaker 2: that that's crippling. I couldn't even imagine it. And I
Speaker 2: know I stress eat and I can't imagine in jail
Speaker 2: that you're getting good food. It's probably all carbs, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's probably just a lot of
Speaker 2: breads and like starches, I would imagine. I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, the people who are making fun of her weight,
Speaker 2: it's just I don't know, that's ha. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: and and a lot of people are saying, well, she
Speaker 2: deserves it. She's this type of person, She's that type
Speaker 2: of you know, you can you can have your own opinion,
Speaker 2: do you think what you want? I know, she was
Speaker 2: my dear friend for years. I'm not pleased this outcome.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't condone drunk driving one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that right off the bat. I'm
Speaker 2: not condoning what she did at all. But it hurts
Speaker 2: me to see that this did happen to her and
Speaker 2: it got this far. And that's that's pretty much it.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't even I can't even imagine, like
Speaker 2: it's it's sickening how far this is gone over how
Speaker 2: many years, Like it's it's just sad, It's very sad.
Speaker 2: You know, so curious to see what the judge thinks.
Speaker 2: Do they take into account, you know, her past record.
Speaker 2: Does it all add up? Or is it just you know,
Speaker 2: the recent stuff that happened with the gentleman who passed away.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how any of this
Speaker 2: stuff works.
Speaker 1: I think if they went to the trial, the past
Speaker 1: record would have been really the main focus, because if
Speaker 1: the maximum sentence is twenty five years, I mean, and
Speaker 1: they started pulling out left and right all these different
Speaker 1: examples of you know what, when, why, and how these
Speaker 1: things have happened over the years, I think she would
Speaker 1: have without a doubt gotten the maximum. But now that
Speaker 1: it's no, you know, no contest, I don't know how
Speaker 1: that's going to work. But I mean, how do you
Speaker 1: not think that somebody with that kind of background, or
Speaker 1: the history that the duys and and all the substance
Speaker 1: abuse issues could eventually play into a release and something
Speaker 1: happening again. Just because you say, hey, you can't drive,
Speaker 1: your licenses are vote doesn't mean somebody's not going to
Speaker 1: get in a car and drive again. So that's where
Speaker 1: I think that the maximum is within field goal range.
Speaker 2: I guess time will tell when when is the.
Speaker 1: I don't think it says explicitly when the sentencing is,
Speaker 1: but it just says that. I mean, I would assume
Speaker 1: it's coming rather quick. The first thing I had seen
Speaker 1: about it was early August that it was starting to talk,
Speaker 1: and then here we were last week where they came
Speaker 1: at it again.
Speaker 2: So I saw November for something.
Speaker 1: Is it the one? The article I have up doesn't
Speaker 1: have that in it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I could be wrong, but it's just a terrible,
Speaker 2: terrible outcome, you know. I I'm not going to sit
Speaker 2: here and ship on her. Uh, just very Uh. I'm
Speaker 2: disgusted that it came this far because that's not the Tammy,
Speaker 2: I know, you know what I mean, that's this is
Speaker 2: just not her and it's it's just this this overall,
Speaker 2: I feel for God, the man who died terrible, his
Speaker 2: family terrible, you know, it's it's it's a sick, sickening situation,
Speaker 2: just horrible.
Speaker 1: We'll continue to follow it and the next updates that
Speaker 1: come will discuss as they are released, but for the
Speaker 1: time being, that's that's the end of the story for
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, so moving on, I think that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm is there anything that we can bring up that
Speaker 1: doesn't have a you know, depressing undertone at the end
Speaker 1: of it. Do we have something well, we can close
Speaker 1: on light.
Speaker 2: We could talk about our YouTube channel and how we
Speaker 2: finally hit the eight thousand subscribers on our route to
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Speaker 1: Slowly, we're gonna get the video I put up the
Speaker 1: other day of you and Shelley talking about fake Easy
Speaker 1: Dub under let me tell you something that fake Easy
Speaker 1: Dub might not have been a great experience, but god
Speaker 1: damn do people love hearing about it. So that's thatison.
Speaker 1: That was like an instant like win response with the
Speaker 1: way people were commenting on how much you guys got
Speaker 1: cheated at a time you guys should have been used better.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like clockwork, how fast it was
Speaker 1: coming in. I just always laugh at how short the
Speaker 1: time was, but how much people love to hear about it.
Speaker 2: We could have had magic together Shelley and I and
Speaker 2: it's a shame it was cut short, and I blamed
Speaker 2: Boss Bahony for that, because you know, if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for that damn drug test, we would have kept going
Speaker 2: and maybe something cool could have happened. But she was
Speaker 2: fun to work with for the short amount of time
Speaker 2: that I did work with her, And the best part
Speaker 2: about that whole feud was we still talk to this
Speaker 2: day and we're still very good friends. And that's a
Speaker 2: plus for me. And I'm glad that that happened. But
Speaker 2: what could have been? I mean, man, you know that
Speaker 2: that spot that would have been an awesome spot to do,
Speaker 2: and Undertaker was all for it, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it sounds great, and then they were like absolutely not
Speaker 2: and we were like what so, uh, you know, if
Speaker 2: you haven't seen it, go back and watch that video
Speaker 2: because it's it's kind of interesting. You know. We hated
Speaker 2: the fakey seedub, but something magical could have happened that
Speaker 2: night and it just didn't, you know. And the one
Speaker 2: night my foot got cut open, did I mention.
Speaker 1: That, No, you didn't know? You mentioned the parfa and
Speaker 1: the bad belly, Yes.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, taking me to McDonald's, uh, eating two parfas.
Speaker 2: That was terrible. But I cut my foot open. It
Speaker 2: was when I was wearing the red dress that the
Speaker 2: and I go to climb in the ring and Shelley
Speaker 2: holds my leg. I cut. I sliced my foot on something.
Speaker 2: And I remember coming in the back because I didn't
Speaker 2: have any shoes on and my foot was all bloody
Speaker 2: and uh right away, oh medic, medics. They whisked me
Speaker 2: to the chair. They sit me down there clean. What
Speaker 2: tough one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, you did not tell that one. You
Speaker 1: didn't share.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that just came to my mind. But that blood
Speaker 2: all over and I must have cut myself on a
Speaker 2: when something under the ring or just something. I don't
Speaker 2: know what it was, or maybe Shelley bit me with
Speaker 2: her vampire vampires.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that.
Speaker 2: And I gigged. I don't know, but uh, you know,
Speaker 2: we we could have had something special. But at least
Speaker 2: we you know, we got to know each other better
Speaker 2: and now we're friends, which is great.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I shouldn't take that. I gotta take this down.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta pull this one off. Okay, I
Speaker 1: need something a little more. There we go. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about it now. Besides that, you know, on the
Speaker 1: Chad Stars and just been crazy busy and uh really
Speaker 1: working my tail off for the and wanting to continue
Speaker 1: to see it grow. So all, all's good on my
Speaker 1: end for now, but that could change when we got
Speaker 1: off this call.
Speaker 2: Okay, well keep me tested, okay.
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Speaker 1: even though people think that they're brand new, which is great,
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Speaker 2: Who cares that? Let them think it's new.
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Speaker 2: If you want to sponsor my podcast, I'd be more
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the sideburns are all white. But oh
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're keeping that name. They're trying to
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Speaker 1: I saw breaking news to go along with that channel.
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Speaker 1: so James knows, Yeah, who told you that?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: I told that to Shane and he agreed.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, very good. Okay. And across the board on
Speaker 2: social media you can find me at E C W
Speaker 2: D ver Francine. And with that, that is a wrap