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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied

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Speaker 1: psychology and evolutionary biology, and I'm recording from my living room.

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Speaker 1: I've got my DJ dog Cookie on the ones and twos,

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Speaker 1: and today I want to take you on a knowledge

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Speaker 1: journey to the animal kingdom. Right now, romance can be

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Speaker 1: hard for a lot of people, as we're all self

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Speaker 1: isolating to keep ourselves and others safe amidst this pandemic.

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Speaker 1: So I was thinking we could check in on some

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Speaker 1: animals and how their romantic lives are going so we

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Speaker 1: can live vicariously through them. Or, as we'll see, maybe

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Speaker 1: romance isn't always all it's cracked up to be. Will

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Speaker 1: you be wooed by throbbing red face balloons, puffer fish

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Speaker 1: art and ce slug congo lines? Discover this and more

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Speaker 1: as we answer the Agel question. If your date is

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Speaker 1: thirty times your size, how do you make sure you

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Speaker 1: don't end up as her appetizer? Right now, dating is

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Speaker 1: pretty difficult given the fact we need to self isolate

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Speaker 1: to prevent the spread of COVID. But that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: I can't take all of you, my listeners on a

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Speaker 1: date right now to the realm of learning romantic nol.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at some of the weirdest dating

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Speaker 1: habits in the animal kingdom. Even within our own species,

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Speaker 1: our tastes regarding romance are highly diverse. Some people like

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Speaker 1: candlelit dinners, some people like monster trucks or candlelit monster trucks. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I tried to my potential mate on our first date

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Speaker 1: by telling him all of my favorite weirdest parasites, and

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Speaker 1: somehow we're still together. But when it comes to attracting

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Speaker 1: a partner, animals truly have us beat when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the sheer drama of it all. Joining me today

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Speaker 1: to discuss some of these hopeless and sometimes boneless romance.

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Speaker 1: Ticks is producer, writer, and also hosts the Rough Stuff podcast.

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Speaker 1: Bridge at Greenberg. Hey, it's me. Thanks for having me, Bridget.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to have you on. Yeah. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I got out easy last time, since

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Speaker 1: you were talking about cute animals and I am very

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Speaker 1: squeamish about slugs and bugs. That's right, Yeah, I I

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Speaker 1: so unfortunately. Yeah, this does actually have slugs in it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just realizing that now. And I remember you

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Speaker 1: did tell me you do not like slugs specifically. Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: I started writing these notes before I booked you as

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Speaker 1: a guest. So, you know, train left the station we're

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Speaker 1: doing this. It's got two entirely different species of slugs

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Speaker 1: on it. Bridget. Yeah, the slug train is left, and

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna have to deal just you know, hop

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Speaker 1: on that slimy grass traam. But first, we're actually not

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Speaker 1: going to talk about a slug, to your delight, We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about hooded seals. Alright, Yeah, seals are cool.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of a hooded seal? I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. Well, that's just wonderful. I'm I always love

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Speaker 1: it when my guest does not know about an animal

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Speaker 1: because it's so fun to listen to you freak out

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Speaker 1: when I tell you cool because I have an idea

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Speaker 1: that I like seals. But now I, well, look, I

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Speaker 1: like this seal, so clearly you will too. Hooded seals

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Speaker 1: are found in the central and western North Atlantic oceans

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Speaker 1: and coasts. They kind of look like dalmatians. They have

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Speaker 1: light brownish, whitish grayish fur with dark spots, and they

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Speaker 1: can kind of they range in color variations a bit,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, they're they're they're like the ocean dalmatians. And

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Speaker 1: they actually get pretty big. So they can grow up

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Speaker 1: to about eight feet long, which is two and a

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Speaker 1: half meters, and way up to nine hundred pounds. So

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Speaker 1: so these are these are some big bucks, big big

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Speaker 1: boys and girls. Yeah, and the boys are bigger than

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Speaker 1: the females. Uh. They eat all sorts of sea kritters

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Speaker 1: like fish, crustaceans, krill, and squid. They are adept swimmers.

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Speaker 1: They're able to dive for about twenty five minutes, although

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Speaker 1: and they can dive from a few hundred to over

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Speaker 1: three thousand feet or one thousand meters under the ocean,

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Speaker 1: which that's you know, for a mammal, that's a lot

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Speaker 1: like a whale, I know, can be under for a

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Speaker 1: long time. But that that feels like it's a rival, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Seals are pretty good swimmers and pretty good divers, especially

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Speaker 1: the hooded seal. And I like the idea of being

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Speaker 1: like a hooded seal comes right up to you're viewing

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Speaker 1: porthole or something. It is just like ha, and like

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Speaker 1: others because it makes me feel like there's a seal

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Speaker 1: Olympics that happens, like they get competitive with each other.

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Speaker 1: Dune dune, did it end? Did it done? Did it done?

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Speaker 1: And it's like a harp seal just kind of flopping aimlessly.

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Speaker 1: And then sea lions show up and they're like the

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Speaker 1: jock bros of the seal Olympics. They're they're the track stars.

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Speaker 1: They really are. I mean, sea lions aren't actually seals, obviously,

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Speaker 1: they're very closely related, but they can move on land

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Speaker 1: a lot better than seals. Yeah, because they've got those long,

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Speaker 1: long legs. Yeah, they're the true athletes. Yeah, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: the bros. I think we've actually talked about that before,

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Speaker 1: like that sea lions are the jock bros of the

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Speaker 1: sort of seal walrus group for sure. And they're like

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Speaker 1: they're the most attractive ones, Like they're the hottest ones.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad to hear, like your preference in uh,

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Speaker 1: you know those are straight up hotties. Bridget attracted to

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Speaker 1: sea lions. Don't love. Don't love that moniker for me.

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Speaker 1: But I said it, so you did say it, and

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Speaker 1: we did capture it on on tape, so there is

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Speaker 1: no avoiding it. Now. Look here, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: just some free compromise, which is that hooded seals. I'm

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Speaker 1: hot for hooded seals. So there you go, like we've

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Speaker 1: got yeah, we've got mutually assured destruction here. Yeah, exactly

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Speaker 1: hooded seals is that they're typically solitary and they you know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're not they're not the most gregarious of seals.

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Speaker 1: Their Yeah they've got they've got their hoodie. Yeah they've

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Speaker 1: and they're like, nobody understands me, but that just makes

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Speaker 1: me want the more. But they do get together in

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Speaker 1: their fur, which sounds great and cool. So the reason

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Speaker 1: to use, it kind of just looks like a flat

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Speaker 1: isn't like super apparent. You're like, okay, here's a here's

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Speaker 1: a slightly more prominent muzzle than most seals. But oh boy,

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Speaker 1: that's not all it is. Guys can tains multitudes. There's

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, just yeah, just just just scroll down

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Speaker 1: this dock. Just take a box here it oh, it

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Speaker 1: looks like it's a oh okay, well, so I guess

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Speaker 1: when it's red, that's when it's inflated. Okay, So I

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Speaker 1: understand the confusion you're seeing to two different It is

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Speaker 1: its face? Right. What it's like. Imagine if your nose

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Speaker 1: comes out of their nose. That looks so painful. It's

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is because it's designed to do that.

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Speaker 1: it looks like they're these two. That's just their natural

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Speaker 1: it's attached to them, thank you, yes, exactly. So it's

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Speaker 1: these were like money tuns characters, they would for sure

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Speaker 1: be a peppe lapew kind of heart. Exactly exactly, yes,

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Speaker 1: just this bit like like you know how their eyes

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Speaker 1: But again, I'm not a male hooded seal, So there

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Speaker 1: you go, if only so, what they do is they

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Speaker 1: it around menacingly at their rivals for mates, like a

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Speaker 1: big yeah, flops around like a big sock 'em bopper,

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Speaker 1: and they use. So first of all, it's an intimidating display,

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Speaker 1: worried you're gonna say they like fight nose balloons like

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Speaker 1: they you said the Rockham stock'em thing. Well, but you know,

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Speaker 1: soock'em boppers, I mean they aren't. I well, I really

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Speaker 1: I would. Just I don't know. It's even if it's

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00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: good art. There's something about sharing your art with someone

423
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: that is so vulnerable. Is it's I'm not saying it's

424
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I'm saying it hurts me to think

425
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: about doing it. Like if I like met someone for

426
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: the first time and I'm like, here's an art I did,

427
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: it makes me feel naked in a way that physically hurts. Yeah,

428
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: it's cringe e that's that's not a thing. These popper

429
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: fish are really wearing their their hearts on their on

430
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: their balloons on the Yeah. Exactly, well said, well spoken. Also,

431
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: there these little these little crop circles or mating circles

432
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: have almost perfect radial symmetry. Oh yeah, I've I've been

433
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: looking at this video, so you've been talking. I've seen it.

434
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: It's so cute. They're so cute. And you see you

435
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: see the finished product, right, like that's big, big crops.

436
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, right, it's beautiful. I it's a I can't

437
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: draw a straight line. I don't know how they're doing this. Yeah,

438
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: it's it's unfathomable. It's it's a beautiful design. It's it

439
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: looks like a sunburst or I don't even it's it's

440
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. And if the female is impressed, she will

441
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: lay her eggs in the of his design. That's like,

442
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: it's so romantic. Yeah, and I'm not I'm not a

443
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: softy per se and that is so sweet. And also

444
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: I'm just very impressed. I want to try to spray

445
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: paint the lines of a soccer field and it was

446
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: a mess. Uh, And these fish, we gotta get these

447
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: fish doing some some work on some soccer fields. My

448
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: boyfriend and I were trying to cut out circles out

449
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: of wax paper to line a baking tin, a circular

450
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: baking tin, and somehow we managed to do every geometric

451
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: shape except a circle. It's impossible. These are I think

452
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: we even we even made like a snowflake, but not

453
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: a circle, a beautiful snowflake a very complex just made

454
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: the mona Lisa out of damn it. But I wanted

455
00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: a circle. A circle. This is incredible, But what it's doing.

456
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: Are they all different? I think they're probably all slightly different.

457
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: They're all symmetrical like that, and they all have that

458
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: sort of general design of like what what what it

459
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: is is they move their little bodies through the sand

460
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: and they have it's basically like they have these sort

461
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: of like the the time markers on a clock, Like

462
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: they have these divots all through radially symmetrical in the circle,

463
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: but then in the center they're kind of doing these

464
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: like like swooshies, like these little like almost um waves

465
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: like radiating out from the center like a sun. And it's,

466
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's it's huge and it's beautiful. It's like, uh,

467
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, like ten times twenty times

468
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: larger than the than the puffer fish itself. It's it's

469
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: it's incredible. Yeah, that is I would lay my eggs

470
00:28:54,480 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: in that circle. Good. Good to hear that. Yeah. Thanks.

471
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: What if crop circles are just aliens trying to woo

472
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: each other and get another alien to lay its eggs

473
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: in the center of it? Oh? Yeah, what or if

474
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: it's just like that creates the alien human species, that

475
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: is our next stage of evolution. Oh god, oh no,

476
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: oh god, oh no. When it comes to romantic patterns,

477
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: a lot of human cultures settled upon the heart shape.

478
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: But where does that come from? It's certainly not very

479
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: similar to a real heart and accurate heart shape is

480
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: more like a lop sided acorn with a bunch of

481
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: veins and chambers and stuff. One theory is that the

482
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: heart shape actually comes from the heart shaped leaves of

483
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: the sylphium plant, which was used as a contraceptive and

484
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: aphrodisiac in fifth century BC and was depicted on silver

485
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: coins in ancient Greece. Turns out we've been horny for

486
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: plants this whole time. Time. Whoops. When we return, we're

487
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: going to talk about a little lover with some big problems.

488
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman was a nineteen fifty

489
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: eight B movie about a wealthy heiress who gets turned

490
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: into a giant lady by an alien. As the trailer states,

491
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: she was quote incredibly huge with incredible desires for love

492
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: and vengeance. In evolutionary biology terms, this would be an

493
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: extreme example of sexual dimorphism. Sexual dimorphism is where one

494
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: sex of a species has significant physical differences from the other,

495
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: either in size, color, or other elements of anatomy. Think

496
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: of the colorful male peacock and the more toned down

497
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: p hen or the huge nose and size of an

498
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: elephant seal compared to the smaller, more normal looking female

499
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: elephant seal. Although we often think of male animals of

500
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: being bigger and stronger, this is definitely not always the case.

501
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: Many female animals are larger than their male counterparts, such

502
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: as most species of spiders, many fish owls, the spotted hyena,

503
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: and the blue whale. But sometimes the female is so

504
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: large compared to the male it becomes a bit of

505
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: an unfortunate situation when it comes to mating. I love

506
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: that the entire premise of some horror movies is just

507
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: what if women were huge? It's so really right. Yeah.

508
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's suposed to be scary or

509
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: sexy or like a mix of the two. It's but

510
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I do love it. I love the creativity that goes

511
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: behind that. Like women but big as a building. It's

512
00:31:52,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: so transparent whatever. Weird, yeah, insecurity or probably mixed together

513
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: little Columbary, Little Columbary. Unfortunately, for the argonau octopus, this

514
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: is not a weird niche fetish. It is a very

515
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: real thing and it's a big problem for the males.

516
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 1: So argonaut octopus males have a problem, which is that

517
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: females see them as a snack. Not sexually, not like

518
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: a snack as like you are a snack because you're

519
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: pretty and I like you, but frutally because the females

520
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: they want to eat them. And let me give you

521
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: a little bit background on the Argona octopus. They are

522
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: indeed an octopus. They are very interesting cephalopod. They're found

523
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: all over the world in tropical oceans, and the females

524
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: are pretty spectacular looking. So they only grow about four

525
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: inches long or tin centimeters in terms of their bodies,

526
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: but they actually create shells that grow up to almost

527
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: a foot it so these shells that they make look

528
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: like a nautilus shell made out of paper and if

529
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: you look in the dock, actually have a photo of this.

530
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: Oh it really is. It's beautiful and it's interesting. So

531
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: nautilus is are that shelled cephal pod that are actually

532
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: related to octopuses. But this is an instance of convergent evolution,

533
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: not like the argonau octopus didn't like evolved from the nautilus.

534
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: This is this is interesting version of convergent evolution where

535
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: they evolved this shell all on their own. And this

536
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: shell is actually an egg case that the female creates

537
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: and lives inside along with her brood. So this egg

538
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: case is made out of a thin layer of calcite,

539
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: unlike most shells which are made out of argonite, which

540
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: is a fact. I'm sure that the mineralologists out there

541
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: were like, that's not a word mental, it's a geologists geologist. Yeah,

542
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,479
Speaker 1: it was like, is there a difference between those two things. So,

543
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: in fact, the shell wearing females look a lot like

544
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: an extinct cephalopod called the ammonite, which some people may

545
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: know like fossil collectors like those ammonite fossil the shell

546
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: that that they're those like spirally fossils, And it was

547
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: a tentacled creature that resided in a shell. And again

548
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: it's likely that this is another case of convergent evolution

549
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: where yeah, this was an extinct cephalopod distantly related to

550
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: the octopus, but the octopus re evolved forming the shell,

551
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: which is really fascinating, and the argonauts shells have a

552
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: bubble of air in it to keep it buoyant, and

553
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: they're very they're very thin shell, so very very light

554
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: and kind of ethereal looking. But it does provide some

555
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: protection for the female and especially for her eggs, and

556
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: it gives her a little buoyant house to live in

557
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: and makes it easier to swim around. And that's all

558
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: great for the female, but males have a very different situation.

559
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: So they're only a little over a centimeter big, which

560
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: is about one the size of a female with her

561
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: shell on, so that that is real tiny. I got

562
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: a diagram in there to show you the size difference.

563
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's really cute because like you see this

564
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: female and it's this octopus emerging from a shell, looking

565
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: very strange and very interesting. And then you have this

566
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: like little tiny and that's the male, just this a

567
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: little tiny like dot on it and about the size

568
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: of her eyeballs. I know, it's adorable. It's so cute.

569
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: They're trying, they're trying so hard. But the problem for

570
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: these males is not a sense of inadequacy, but a

571
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: sense of deliciousness, because they make an easy little snack

572
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: for the females. So if they try to mate with

573
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: a female, the female might be just like, hey, you're

574
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: tiny and small and you fit right in my mouth

575
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: and en them and it happens. So in order to

576
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: try to survive this and to actually get the female

577
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: to accept it's uh sperm, the ARGONNT males have perfected

578
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: the art of social distancing sex, which is by detaching

579
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: an arm that holds their sperm um and they rip

580
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: it off and fling it at eligible females like a

581
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: ween or javelin. Oh my god, that's cool, what a

582
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: cool Olympic sport? Exactly ween or javelin. So it's actually

583
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: not their their penis. It is called a hecto caudals,

584
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: which is the it's basically they take their tentacle and

585
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: they put a little sperm packet on it, and then

586
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: they remove that tentacle and toss it at the female

587
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: and the female is like, oh cool. It's like well,

588
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: it's like an arm holding a bunch of sperm, perfect

589
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: present for me. I love it, thank you. It's like Amazon,

590
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: just cool, cool, my children are got my sperm tentacle

591
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: packet today. That's great. They will sometimes even stockpile these

592
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: tentacle sperm javelins in their shell and just disseminate their

593
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: eggs when they're ready. Just hoarding, hoarding, like these these

594
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: weener tentacle sperm things. How many like I guess I

595
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: regrow their their sperm tentacles the male. Yeah, yeah, they

596
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: can regrow their tentacles. It's it's unclear how often they

597
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: actually have the chance to mate like that, but yeah,

598
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: they in theory, they probably can regrow that tentacle. I'm

599
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: just not I don't think it's known whether or not

600
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: they actually do or if they're just like, well, my

601
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: job here is done and then then pass on to

602
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: octopus heaven. They could regrow the tentacle, and it at

603
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: least means that they were able to get their their

604
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: sperm to the female without the email just eating the

605
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: holding a little guy and not even knowing what she's missing. Yeah,

606
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: he could be a great guy. He could have been

607
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: a great guy. Yeah, give him a chance. We've actually

608
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: talked about this method of mating before on this show,

609
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: when I think it was in the episode Aliens, and

610
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: we talked about the blanket octopus. Because blanket octopus males

611
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: will also use the hectocotalists and by tossing their arm

612
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: at the female and piecing out. But I think that

613
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: the in this case just the the absolute urgency for

614
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: these little guys to get away from these huge females

615
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible as a much more stark but yeah,

616
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: it's it's an it's an interesting technique, like like take it,

617
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: take my seat, and then run away. Take my seat,

618
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: don't eat me. That's all the sad existence, like here

619
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: you go, here's my arm, just gonna go. Had I

620
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: go here, take my love, be the mother of my children.

621
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: By I want to inspire that kind of intimidation that

622
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: that is a that is a that is a boss girl. Wait,

623
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: boss queen, what is it? Boss boss bas boss boss queen. Yes, queen,

624
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: eat eat as mails you go their little snacks, little

625
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: snacks exactly, that's that's right. And then just put their

626
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: put their sperm arm in your pocket, exactly, collects me

627
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: sperm arms as you can, because your boss. That I

628
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: also I'm super jealous of the idea of like, yeah,

629
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hang onto this for a later time,

630
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: you know. Now it's not a great time for me,

631
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, Like on the road. I'm gonna want

632
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: these planning like down really good, just like you know

633
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: you have like a little cupboard full of like this

634
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: one was from Gary. I don't know about Gary. Oh

635
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: this one's from Larry. I did like Larry. I could

636
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: pick the eat. I don't know they are. Yeah, yeah,

637
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: they got their own little sperm banks. Yeah they got

638
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: a sperm library. Just check out, check out a book

639
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: whenever you want, pour it over your eggs and there

640
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: you go. You got kids. Oh god, what a convenient

641
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: system for the ladies and a terrifying existence for exactly.

642
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I do love the convenience of it all. So now

643
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: I want to talk about I'm sorry to say it, Bridget,

644
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: but it's slugs times. So I have done I have

645
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: done you a huge favor, and I have made the

646
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: photo of the slugs I'm going to talk about really tiny,

647
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: so you can choose to zoom in on that if

648
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: you want. That is way too kind, but I appreciate

649
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. When I say tiny, I made it

650
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: like like a cinameter squared wide. So Bridget doesn't have

651
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: delok at this unless she wants to. It is so

652
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: you are such a gracious house well, these are banana slugs.

653
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: And I think even for people who aren't normally grossed

654
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: out by slugs, these are some intimidating slugs. Yeah they're there.

655
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: I know these because, yeah, they're the ones. I'm like, yeah,

656
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: these are the gross ones. These are the ones that

657
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: made me afraid. Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

658
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: And I bring them up because we talked about, like

659
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: with the argonau octopus, how they detach their leg and

660
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: throw it at the female by choice. Well, sometimes penis

661
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: isn't meant to be detachable, but animals jail break those

662
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: wieners and attach them anyways. Of course they're monsters. Yes,

663
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: let me tell you the ballad of the banana slugs

664
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: and their unfortunate romantic existence. And sometimes they listen. Okay,

665
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: sometimes they do chew a wiener off. But let me

666
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: before you judge, let me tell you all about the

667
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: noble banana slug. So, banana slugs are large, gooey yellow

668
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: terrestrial slugs. They are according to some people, it's objective.

669
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: There are three species of banana slugs that live in

670
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: North America, so some of my fellow North Americans may

671
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: have had the privilege of seeing them in person um,

672
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: are you one of those people, Bridget? Have you seen

673
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: a banana slug in person? I have, and I was

674
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: physically twitching for like an hour. Where was this? I

675
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: was camping around Big Sir. Of course that's northern Yeah,

676
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: that's where that's where they are. Yeah, I love Big Sir,

677
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: but I don't really like it was beautiful and then

678
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: I saw that and the trip is ruined. Well, so

679
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: they do grow up to be around ten inches long,

680
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: or they can grow up to ten inches long, which

681
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: is about twenty five cimeters, and they can live up

682
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: to seven years. They're I don't know why backroased me

683
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: out that they can be old because they can remember you, Bridget,

684
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: come back there, they'll remember you. But yeah, they I

685
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: mean they're their lives bean ranges from one to seven years.

686
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, they can look pretty long for it for

687
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: dank slug. And here's here's some cool banana slug facts.

688
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: They need to keep their skin moist to stay healthy

689
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: and to help them breathe via gas exchange. So they

690
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: have a nice thick layer of mucus that they can

691
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: even create a cocoon out of. So they can bury

692
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: themselves in soil or leaves and remain dormant until their

693
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: environment is acceptable moist. Oh god, everything makes it worse. Well,

694
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: maybe this fact will cheer you up, all right, No,

695
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm lying it won't. Actually, if you try, if you

696
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: try to eat a banana slug, your mouth will fill

697
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: with expanding slime and your tongue will go numb. So

698
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: let me explain. You may have heard, I don't know,

699
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: if you live in an area where it's like um there,

700
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: I've heard that people dare each other to lick banana slugs.

701
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: And I remember I was at sixth grade camp and

702
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: we had a camp counselor was like, do not lick

703
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: banana slugs. And if someone if someone dares you to

704
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: lick a banana slug, don't do it because it will

705
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: your mouth will fill with goo and it will just

706
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: like froth up into like this big, these big thick

707
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: sheets of goo. And I thought she was kind of

708
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: just telling tall tales, but no, turns out she was right.

709
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: And the reason this happens is their mucus is made

710
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: out of mucin granules. These are little teeny tiny microscopic

711
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: granules that expand when they come into contact with water.

712
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: So if you look a banana slug. These granules will

713
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: expand in your saliva like tiny microscopic bits of select

714
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: or mucus rice and fill your mouth with slug pudding. Yeah,

715
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I hate that term. I hate that term so much.

716
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's all right. My shoulders are at my

717
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: ears for a bridget I'm really sorry. I did not

718
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: plan to torture you with this episode. Was just like, oh,

719
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: I should have bridget on and I'm like, just have

720
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: a lot of slugs in it. Yeah, no, you're doing

721
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: your job. I don't blame you. The slugs are always

722
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: the animator. Yeah, well maybe this this is some some

723
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: solace if you put a banana slug in your mouth,

724
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: is that your tongue won't feel the slime because your

725
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: tongue will go numb because their their mucus contains an

726
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: anesthetic agent. And that is another reason though, animals don't

727
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: really want to eat these guys, because like, if you

728
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: are a predator and your mouth is now full of sliming,

729
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: your tongue is numb, that is not going to be

730
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: a good experience. Oh God, I hate him. I don't

731
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: like them. I Also, there's not enough money in the world. Uh,

732
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: if I was at your camp to like a slug,

733
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: there is not not even a lot, not even a

734
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: little kiss, just to see if they're prints and disguise.

735
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: I had a nightmare about slugs coming out of my mouth.

736
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: I was very young, and I think about it maybe

737
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: once a week. There's a a Japanese comic artist, Genie Eto,

738
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: who does these horror comics, and he has one where like,

739
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: these slugs come out of this girl's mouth. So I

740
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: don't know why I'm telling you that, but hey, you're

741
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: not the only one who has that fear. Yeah, no,

742
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: I that's a good horror. That's yeah, that's a good horror.

743
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: So you can't. You can't kiss a banana slug. But

744
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: what do what do hours banana slugs do? I bet

745
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: you were wondering that bridget, But you're wondering how banana

746
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: slugs romance each other and you want to hear about it. Yeah,

747
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: I guess, so that's why I'm here. So banana slugs,

748
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: like all slugs, are hermaphrodites, and they carry both male

749
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: and female organs, So that tongue numbing, expanding slime horror

750
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: also contains pheromones to attract a mate. So once a

751
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: pair of slugs meet up, they will both exchange sperm

752
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: with each other, kind of like how you know you

753
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: meet up, Like we both like you meet someone, you

754
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: both exchange your phone numbers and stuff, except it's sperm

755
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: because they, you know, they both have both male and

756
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: female reproductive organs. But they can't like self fertilize, They

757
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: have to find someone else, so they just exchange stuff

758
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: like here, you take some of my sperm, I'll take

759
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: some of your sperm. We'll see which one works out

760
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: exactly number maybe slightly. Yes. But here's here's a problem,

761
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: which is that once in a while they get a

762
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: little tangled up with with their wieners. And so if

763
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: if a penis gets stuck in the female reproductive tract,

764
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: the penis must somehow be removed so they won't be

765
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: locked together forever, because that is a commitment that goes

766
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: a little too far for these banana slugs. They're like, hey, cool,

767
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: we'll meet up. We'll exchange your sperm, but I do

768
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: not want to be tied to your wiener forever. Sorry. Wait,

769
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: so it always gets stuck? No, no, no, just occasionally,

770
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: just occasionally. God, that would be a poorly designed animal.

771
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: Though I'm sure it happens. I'm sure I'm gonna find

772
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: an animal like that isn't like how I mean? This

773
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: might not be a question. You know, how common of

774
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: an occurrence? Is this enough that it has been noted

775
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: by researchers. I don't know what that means. I don't

776
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: think it happens all the time, but it happens with

777
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: enough regularity that we have observed it and documented it. Okay, yes,

778
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: enough enough, that's right. It happens enough once, I feel

779
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: like would be enough. But once this is too many,

780
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: maybe I would go as far as to say, yeah.

781
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: So usually it is the recipient of the weener who

782
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: does the chewing off, though sometimes the owner will chew

783
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: off its own weener in desperation to escape, like a

784
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: wolf chewing off its own paw to escape trap. You

785
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: see what happens. The problem is the female genitals have

786
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: these like muscles that like hold onto the male genitals,

787
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: and sometimes those muscles just work too good and it

788
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: locks on there and then they get stuck together and

789
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: they're like, well, somebody's gonna lose a wiener and it's

790
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: not gonna be me. Oh, they're too strong for their

791
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: own good. Yeah. I mean. The one nice thing though,

792
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: is because they are hermaphrodites and they have both male

793
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: and female genitals. It's like there's not it's not just

794
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: like one. They all run this risk, right, it feels

795
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: sort of equitable. I guess it did. It's not one sided, right, exactly,

796
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: Like they understand what they're getting into. Someone must get

797
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: their penis bitted. Yeah, they probably don't understand that because

798
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: they're not very smart. They've got like kind of tiny brains.

799
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: But you know what, maybe that's a blessing. Maybe maybe

800
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: it's good not to have self awareness in that situation. Yea, yeah,

801
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: in that situation you kind of just want instinct. Yeah.

802
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: And then one one last fact to just kind of

803
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: like with this fact simmer in there. Once the penis

804
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: has been successfully a hundred and twenty seven hours off,

805
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 1: they typically the one who received the penis will eat

806
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: it as a fun snack because wasted waste, not want

807
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: not is what I say. Oh my god, monsters, they're monsters. Well,

808
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: nothing to convince me otherwise. Well, I mean, but are

809
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: we the real monsters, bridget because we don't. Yeah, No,

810
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and and and and not yes,

811
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: and you here right, we are not the monsters. That's

812
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: actually probably fair. You know, Uh, this sounds horrible, Yeah,

813
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: it's well, you know, I mean, look, look, it's easy

814
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: to judge when you're not covered in numbing, numbing slime

815
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: and getting your wieners stuck in another person. You know,

816
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: it's easy to judge. Yeah, I guess, I guess I

817
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: have not been have not been lucky enough to be

818
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: in this situation from our law deposition, as a species

819
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: that don't regularly chew off each other's wieners like you know,

820
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's easy for us to judge, That's

821
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say, High and Mighty Throne. Why aren't

822
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: all living animals hermaphroditic? That is, it seems like the

823
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: safest way to ensure the continuation of the species is

824
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: giving everyone both sets of reproductive equipment. Right. Well, to

825
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: answer this question, first, let's talk about how different sex

826
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: is evolved in the first place. Sexual reproduction evolved over

827
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: one point two billion years ago in early eukaryotic cells.

828
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: Eukaryotes are all organism with a nucleus enclosed into membrane

829
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: within the cell. Where eukaryotes. Worms are eukaryotes, plants are eukaryotes,

830
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: mushrooms are eukaryotes. So early eukaryotic cells developed sexual reproduction,

831
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: the exchange of two gamets, each containing a set of

832
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: chromosomes that combined to form a new organism with two

833
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: sets of chromosomes. Sexual reproduction has been the preferred choice

834
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: of reproduction amongst eukaryotes, including most species of plants, animal,

835
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: and fungi. This maybe because sexual reproduction protects species from

836
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: major bad mutations by having two different sets of chromosomes.

837
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: So most plants are actually hermaphroditic, well, just a few

838
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: have two distinct sexes. Meanwhile, most animals are dioecious, meaning

839
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: individuals generally have either male or female organs. One theory

840
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: is that it's costly to have both sexual organs as

841
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: their major energy costs. Producing sperm and gest dating eggs

842
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: both cost resources, so if you're doing both at the

843
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: same time, you may be burning the candle from both ends,

844
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: so to speak. When we return, we're going to talk

845
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: about another lovely little sliming hermaphroditic critter who has no

846
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: problem burning that candle from end to end to end

847
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: to end. While we sometimes consider mating to be a

848
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: private affair, that's a very limited perspective. Not all species

849
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: are so inhibited. Some species of frogs gather in huge

850
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: mating mobs that can become so hectic and cramped that

851
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: individuals get smothered to death. In fact, a species of

852
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: Amazonian frog called Ranilla proboscidia is so highly competitive during

853
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: mating they forego the whole till death do you part bit,

854
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: and males will actually harvest eggs from dead females to

855
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: attempt to fertilize them. Other species of frogs have understandably

856
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: shied away from these mass mating events by finding or

857
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: even constructing their own private mating pools so they and

858
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: their partners can mate in peace. See hairs, on the

859
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: other hand, have figured out a way to have very organized,

860
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: but still very public making spectacles. Okay, so, Bridget, I

861
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: do want to talk about another sluggish animal. It's not

862
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm hoping this one, won't. I actually hope you kind

863
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: of like this one. Maybe not, we'll see. Let's let's

864
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: let's just go, let's go on this journey together. Let's

865
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: find out. Yeah, have you you know, generally about like

866
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: sea slugs. Right, Oh yeah, those those still bother me

867
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: quite as much. Good good, good good. So let's talk

868
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: about sea hairs. So sea hairs are actually distantly related

869
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: to banana slugs, and they both belong to the clade Heterobranchia,

870
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: which contains snails and slugs both on land and aquatic. Uh.

871
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: They are yeah, like I said, they are a type

872
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: of sea slug. And actually on the show, we have

873
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: talked about the sea bunny before, which is a related animal,

874
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: and they sea hair. I don't think it's quite as

875
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: adorable as the sea bunny. Bridget actually got to show

876
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: you a sea bunny. This is, yeah, if necessary, because

877
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: that just sounds cute. It's very cute. I'm going to

878
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: show you. Yeah, that's pretty cute. I can't hate that.

879
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: I can't, can't. So this is so sea bunnies, like

880
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: we've talked about before our new to Brinks, and they

881
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: look like little cotton balls with bunny ears and a

882
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: bunny tail. And that little cotton tail is actually their

883
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: lungs that they breathe through. So they breathe through their toshi,

884
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: which is amazing and wonderful. They're one of my favorite,

885
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: one of my favorite animals the sea bunny and sea hairs,

886
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: aren't they. I don't think they have quite the same

887
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: cuteness factor. If you google sea hair you'll see what

888
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Yeah, because bunny. So they're called a

889
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: sea hair because the rhino floors, which are those like

890
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: little fleshy antenna on top of their head, look a

891
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: little bit like rabbit ears. And those those ears don't

892
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: really hear anything. They actually smell and taste the water,

893
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: and they There are many species of sea hair, and

894
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: they are found all over the world's oceans, in coastal

895
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: waters where there's dense vegetation for them to eat, and

896
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: they range in color and size. I think most of

897
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: them look like weird little dumplings. I guess with with

898
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: with bunny ears and they um So. The largest sea

899
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: hair is the California black sea hair, which grows up

900
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: to thirty inches long and thirty one pounds. So that's

901
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: in fourteen ms. That's insane. Yeah, it's that's a little

902
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a little too much for me. That's that

903
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: might be a little too much sea hair for me,

904
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: even Yeah, that's a big that's a big s that's

905
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: a big sack. Of goo exactly. So another species of

906
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: California sea hair is the A flies Ya californica. I think, yeah,

907
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 1: it flies Jah Californica, which eats red algae and consequently

908
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: has a pinkish reddish hue. And not only that, but

909
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: it can like actually ink at predators like a squid

910
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: or an octopus, and it inks purple, purpleish pinkish ink

911
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: in this big plume. So if you scroll down, you

912
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: actually can see this, and I think it's rather pretty that. Okay,

913
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: the ink is cool. The fact that it looks like

914
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 1: it's coming out of it's open back I don't love,

915
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: but the ink is cool. Right, So what what Bridge

916
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: is looking at is this this sea here, and you

917
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: know how like um, you know how like certain dumplings

918
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: they have, like you you it's sort of a semi

919
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: circle and then the top of it you kind of

920
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: like pinch the edges of the dumplings. So there's like

921
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: these like flaps on the top. Imagine that. But it's

922
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: got a tail and it's also got ahead with like

923
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: a little weird head face tentacles. Yeah. Yeah, it's those

924
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: like flaps are actually kind of wing like of it.

925
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: So the back isn't like split open. Those are just

926
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: those are just like wings that are kind of like

927
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: resting on top of its back. But it it is odd.

928
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: It is an odd shaped animal. Yeah, thinking of that

929
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: as a thirty pound thing, yes, that's all that much.

930
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Don't love it? Um. I think that it's that's its

931
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: max weight, so that that's at least we know it

932
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: doesn't get more than that. Yeah, But that that purple

933
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: ink that its views out is really interesting because it

934
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: has an ink gland along its back that releases that

935
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: that plum of magenta colored ink, and it also can

936
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: release a sort of white colored ink which is made

937
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: out of opaline, which is a component found in opal,

938
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: which is distasteful to predators. So that's it's really cool.

939
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: It's like there, you know, like that the color festivals

940
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: where you throw around like colorful chalk or something, right,

941
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: or like I guess people are doing it now with

942
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: like baby showers or baby gender revealing. Yeah, let's let's

943
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: stick with the color runs because the other one is stupid. Yeah, yeah,

944
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: where they like I've actually heard like with the So

945
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: so what I'm talking about is at these gender revealed parties,

946
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: which I could launch into a whole thing of like

947
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't know different about that, but that's a different podcast.

948
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: But like they will fire off I guess like colored

949
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: powder where like you, I'm not actually I'm not a pyrotechnician,

950
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: so I don't know how this works. But you like

951
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: it's like a little like smoke bomb, but then it's

952
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: sprays either like pink or blue. But then sometimes, like

953
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: these smoke bombs explode, so it's actually kind of dangerous.

954
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 1: So maybe don't do it always, except unless you're hired

955
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: pyrotechnic people. I don't know. But if you if you

956
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: do have a if you do want to have a

957
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: pink plume, and you have an un nderwater gender revealed party,

958
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: you could bother a sea hair. Yeah, just get a

959
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: big stick. And now that I say that all out loud,

960
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: all of those words combined, I don't like them. So

961
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: don't do that. Get all your friends scuba licenses right right.

962
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do something as silly as a gender

963
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: revealed party, you should at least do at scuba diving.

964
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: But but but don't bully a sea hair. I take

965
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: that back. I do not fully see hairs come ups.

966
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: Don't have gender revealed parties. Don't bully puffer fish. This

967
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: has been this has been like an after school special

968
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: show about all the things. Just this is my new brand.

969
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: It's just lecturing my listeners on which animals you shouldn't bully. Hint,

970
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: it's all of them. Just let them be, Just let

971
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: them be. So sea hairs have parapodia, and that those

972
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: are those like weird fleshy ribbons you see that run

973
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: along it's back, and they actually can use them like wings,

974
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: so they like swim sort of like like and flash

975
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: them like wings. They fly in the ocean. I think

976
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty. I think it's pretty. Although I guess if

977
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: you think about like a flying terrestrial slug, that often

978
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: does seem yeah, it's not a great idea. But like

979
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: they're terrestrial slug cousins. They are also hermaphrodites, so meaning

980
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: that they have female and male reproductive organs. But they

981
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: are a bit less misanthropic when it comes to mating

982
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: than the sea slug because they hold these big old

983
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: sea hair swinger parties where they formed long mating chains.

984
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: Which yeah, so because they have both female and male genitalia,

985
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: they can basically link up like one long sex congo

986
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: line and d D. So the first in the line

987
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: acts only as a female, the second in line mounts

988
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: her as a male. And then I'm to say, I'm

989
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: gonna use I'm going to say they because again female

990
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: and male genitalia. I don't think obviously these are these

991
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: are animal sex as gender doesn't apply to these guys.

992
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: But for just for clarity, So so the first one

993
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: acts as a female, the second one acts as both

994
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: a female and a male, so on and so on,

995
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: and then the last in the chain only acts as

996
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: a male. And then that's because you see how how

997
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: that works, right, Like you you mount the first one,

998
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: and then your second in line, so you're also getting

999
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: getting mounted, and then the third one is mounting the

1000
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: second one, and so on and so forth, and you

1001
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: just get a big, long, long, fun congo sex chain. Yeah.

1002
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: I feel like the slug at the front and back.

1003
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: They're getting the run to the deal. Everybody else, you know, yeah,

1004
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: gets to do both have both times. Yeah. I mean, actually,

1005
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about it in terms of I'm not sure,

1006
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm not hard to person sure of this, but if

1007
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: you're think about it in terms of evolutionary cost, I

1008
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,479
Speaker 1: would say the one in the front gets the most

1009
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: raw deal because laying eggs is costly, and if you

1010
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: can pass on your genetic material without having to lay eggs,

1011
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: that's cool. So the one in the back is getting

1012
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: the best deal because potentially doesn't have to lay eggs.

1013
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure, like they may like, I don't know,

1014
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: if they only engage in like one sex chain, they

1015
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: could do a bunch of sex chains, in which case

1016
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: everybody gets a turn swap sex teckically exactly, when they

1017
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 1: do lay eggs, they lay millions of them in long

1018
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: spaghetti like strands. And that's cool. That is cool. Uh, gross,

1019
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: but cool? What a weird form of like spaghetti cavia,

1020
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, being being awfully judge. I think it's beautiful,

1021
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: these sex sex calmed congo lines and then they make

1022
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: makes eggs spaghetti that turns into babies. Be the circle

1023
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: of life, fascinating, the literal circle of life. It's up

1024
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: to interpretation, Yes, yes, exactly, how do you feel about it? Look,

1025
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: it's the it's it's the majesty of love making amongst

1026
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: sea slugs. And I personally I think it's great. I

1027
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: think it's beautiful. I was like in middle school and

1028
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: everyone was finding out about like grinding dancing. Uh. At

1029
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: bar Mitzva's people would everyone would line up and it

1030
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: would be like boy girl boy girl in like a

1031
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: long chain of teenage dry humping and that's what But wow, yeah,

1032
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: that is kind of that is pretty similar. Again, what

1033
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: do you like do you think like the person at

1034
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: the front of the grind grindline, like, is that like

1035
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: a raw deal? Like that seems kind of like awkward.

1036
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: You're just like you're like the only because it seems

1037
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: like but then you're like the face of the grindline

1038
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: and that seems like weird that you have to kind

1039
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: of like if you're at the head of the grind line,

1040
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: then like it's you're like the head of the grind line,

1041
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: and that's like a lot of visibility and culpability that

1042
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really want. I wouldn't write like are you

1043
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: are you the captain of the hump line? And I

1044
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: don't want to be like, yeah, it's me the captain

1045
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: of the line. That was for the more confident, the

1046
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: more confident among us. Yeah, yeah, not me. No, I

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01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: would want to be somewhere in the middle. I would say,

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01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: like somewhere well within the middle of the grind or

1049
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: maybe like back middle sort of, and so that like

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: nobody can see me being here in the grind line.

1051
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: And also like I'm not a good enough to answer

1052
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: to have set the rhythm for an entire chain right right,

1053
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: or maybe I don't know, maybe maybe back of maybe

1054
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: back of the grind line, because then I can leave

1055
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: to go the bathroom whenever I want, because like being

1056
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: stuck in the middle of the grind line, Like what

1057
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: if you have to get the bathroom and then you're

1058
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: like stuck in the middle of the grind line and

1059
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: you can't break the grind line. You don't want to

1060
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: be the one who broke the grind line. You don't

1061
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: want to be the one to ruin the grind line.

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: It only takes one personally. Yeah, this is this is like,

1063
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: this is making me sweat from social anxiety. So I'm sorry.

1064
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like this is payback for Bridget

1065
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: having to learn about sea slugs, and she's learn about slugs.

1066
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: Is like like here, here, here's some social anxiety for you, Katie.

1067
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, don't appallsize I deserve it. No, this

1068
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: is this is more than this is very fair phobia

1069
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: into the territory. I think what we could all use

1070
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: at the end of this episode is to talk about

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01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: big snake sex parties. Right. That's that's that's a good closer.

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: That's a closer if I've ever heard. I like to

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01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: end on an uplifting note, and that is big snake

1074
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: sex balls. Um. So uh, snakes may seem like unfriendly,

1075
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: but some species get really, really very friendly during mating seasons.

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01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: And so let's talk about garter snakes. So garter snakes

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01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: participate in something that is about as opposite of social

1078
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: distancing as you could possibly get, because sometimes they get

1079
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: they just wind themselves in these big balls of snakes

1080
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: that are all trying trying to mate, and it's great.

1081
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: And so garter snakes are a sort of smaller genus

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01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: of snakes. They're typically harmless to humans. If they do

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01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: have venom, it's very mild and they can't really effectively

1084
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: bite people and inject that venom, so they're they're just

1085
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: sweet little noodles and you don't you don't have to

1086
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: worry about them too much. They come in different colors

1087
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: each species, and they are endemic to North America. So

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01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: if you are another North American like me. You've probably

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01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: seen them around. I've seen garter snakes around and there

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: they could be quite pretty. So the California red sided

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01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: garter snake is very stunning. It has these red bars

1092
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: on its side and a bright neon blue strip running

1093
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: down its back. Wow, that's cool. That looks like a

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01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: power Ranger snakes. Yeah, exactly. So some species of garter

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01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: snakes participate in massive sex parties, you know, just like

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01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: Power Rangers. That's a fan fic. I read, yep, yep,

1097
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: it's a fan fic. We've all possibly written or read

1098
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: all of the We're all equally guilty for that. So

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01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: there's another species of garter snake that lives in Manitoba, Canada,

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01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: and they are called the red sided garter snakes, and

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01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: they do massive mob mating where tens of thousands of

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: individuals slithered together in a big, beautiful sex ball that

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01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: is known scientifically as a mating ball, which I was like,

1104
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: I wrote these notes as like calling it a sex ball,

1105
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: and like that's crue, that's crass. I should look up

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: the what they actually call it, and it's just called

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01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: a mating ball. So you know, UM's what it is.

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: It's yeah, there's not too many words. I don't know

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01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: how more poetically you could put it, you know, I

1110
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: don't know. Spear together, spear pile, yeah, yeah, baby making

1111
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: pile again doesn't roll off the tongue that well. So,

1112
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: because the mortality rate for garter snakes in the winter

1113
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: is so high, it's kind of difficult if you're just

1114
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: kind of like looking looking in the singles pages to

1115
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: find a female to mate with. So their solution is

1116
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: forming a giant mosh pit that gives everyone a higher

1117
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: chance to mate. And that's great, but it does come

1118
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: at a high price other than just grow gross. Uh.

1119
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: They can also be fatal to males who basically expend

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: all their energy and resources on sperm. So they like

1121
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 1: they're they're doing so much mating, and what what happens

1122
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: is like before this mating they actually have, they like

1123
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: aren't really eating at this point, so they are just

1124
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: on this mating frenzy, mating as much as they can

1125
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: without eating. So if you're powering, right, if you're like

1126
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: expending a lot of your your resources on these sperm

1127
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: packets that you're giving to the females, you're you're losing

1128
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: you're losing a lot of resources real quick. So sometimes

1129
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: it can be fatal for these males. They literally, you know,

1130
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: grind themselves to death. But some male garter snakes have

1131
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: developed an interesting trick. So when mating, garter snakes actually

1132
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: release pheromones, which males and females can seek out to

1133
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: find each other. And females and males each have their

1134
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: own brand of pheromone, but some tricky males produce both

1135
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: female pheromones and male pheromones and that tricks other males

1136
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: to cuddle with them, which seems like why would you

1137
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: want that? Well, so snakes are, like like other reptiles,

1138
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: cold blooded, meaning that they can't thermoregulate and they have

1139
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: to sit in the sun to get body heat. And conversely,

1140
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: it's it's not like their blood is always cold, like

1141
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: when they get too warm, they have to get in

1142
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: the shade to regulate that down. So basically they just

1143
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: have to manually regulate their body temperature unlike unlike mammals,

1144
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: So if they want to get some cheap, easy heat,

1145
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: they can trick other males to cuddle with them and

1146
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: get some free warmth. And I don't know, like of

1147
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: all the sort of sneaky strategies like the in nature.

1148
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: I think getting free cuddles is one of the cutest ones.

1149
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: That is the sweetest ones. It seems like a long

1150
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: way to just get a cuddle with your brow. But

1151
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: I know, right right, like I wish. Yeah, it's so

1152
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: much toxic snake masculinity here, just like you know, just

1153
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: like cutli or bro, you know, and I know, I

1154
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: know that's like right now, we're all self isolating. But

1155
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: if you do happen to be isolating with a bro,

1156
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: cuddle that bro, you know, cud. We all need cuddles,

1157
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: responsible cuddles, though at this point, responsible consensual cuddles, all right, Yes,

1158
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: only only cuddle the people you're living with, you know,

1159
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: only cuddle the people you've been self isolating with for

1160
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 1: a few weeks. And also, you know, consensually. My roommate

1161
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: walked by at that moment, and I said that and

1162
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: looked directly at her, and then she left. Well did

1163
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: you try making her an intricate mandola out of sand

1164
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: or bon? Once we hang up, I'm going to feel

1165
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: this apartment with sand in in Florida, there's actually a

1166
01:12:55,240 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: different species of snakes, these water snakes that also form

1167
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: do these massive mating balls, and they are so I

1168
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: guess enthusiastic about it that, um the the have you

1169
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: seen this? Like where the I've heard of this? Yeah yeah.

1170
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: Park management actually warns park visitors of the big snake

1171
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: mating balls and like like closes parts of the parks

1172
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: off so that these snakes can mate in peace. Yes

1173
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: for snake, because I you said the mating ball thing,

1174
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, I've heard of this for some reason.

1175
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: And yes, good old Florida we have those mating balls.

1176
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: It's really funny. They're trying to calm people at the

1177
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: same time as like trying to educate them where and

1178
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: so this was a a Facebook post by officials in

1179
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: Florida amidst the snake mating season, and it's they said,

1180
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: quote it appears that they have congregated for mating. They

1181
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: are non venomous and generally not aggressive. As long as

1182
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: people do not disturb them. Once the eating is over,

1183
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: they should go their separate ways. So please don't panic

1184
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: that the they'll they won't be here in the big

1185
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: sex pile forever. Don't worry. Everyone chill, They're just having

1186
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: their you know, yeah, yeah, I do. I do like

1187
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: the idea though that's so like obviously social distancing rules

1188
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: don't have to apply to snakes right now. So like

1189
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: as we're all like having to stay home, and I

1190
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: feel like the snakes are gonna be like we have

1191
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: all the time in the world and all the space

1192
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: we want to have big sex parties. So they're just

1193
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: gonna be everywhere, like not caring, not worrying, just taking

1194
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: over with their big snaky sex ball. Do they get stuck?

1195
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: This is a dumb question. It's not a dumb question. Actually,

1196
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: I bet some of them, do you know, I think

1197
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: not inevitable. I it probably happens, to be honest, I

1198
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I don't know if like researchers are

1199
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: going like kind of picking through these snake piles and

1200
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: like doing performing autopsies on the dead snakes to see

1201
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: what the cause of death was, whether they were like

1202
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: crushed to death or something. But I'm gonna go out

1203
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: on a limb and say it probably occasionally happens, Like

1204
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: if you're in the middle of a sex ball, that

1205
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: could happen. I just keep thinking of I think it's

1206
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: a thirty right the rat king where like a bunch

1207
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: of rats get their tails tied together and yes, yes, oh,

1208
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: I see like you're you're thinking they might get like

1209
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 1: tied in a knot together. Yeah, but it's the cartoon

1210
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: world I live in in my head. Well rat, well

1211
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: rat can do that? Does happen where rats actually like

1212
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: their tails get tied in and not and they get

1213
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: stuck together like if they're too like too densely populated.

1214
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: I think that happens. I yeah, I'm sure, you know,

1215
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: maybe it happened of snakes. I do think snakes are

1216
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 1: unlike rat tails. I think because snakes have much more

1217
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: control over their muscles in their body, probably less likely

1218
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: to get super tangled. But I'm sure they at least

1219
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: get sometimes, like for a little while tangled, because like

1220
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: when they are mating, they do kind of wrap around

1221
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: each other. So it seems inevitable that someone's gonna get

1222
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: like stuck. It's gonna be like a twister situation where

1223
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: you're words sometimes you know, is this my is this

1224
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: my snake part? Or is this someone else's snake part?

1225
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: And you think it's your tail but someone else's tail? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1226
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: you just gotta laugh it off, you know what, you

1227
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: know what happens to everyone. Yeah, it's the beast of

1228
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: many many, many, many many many snakes. What they call it? Yep,

1229
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: of course, yep. Yeah, snake balls. What horrible balls, What

1230
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: a horrible thing to come across. It's like like a

1231
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: big ball of yarn, but may out of snakes. I

1232
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: don't know why park Range even say don't go near that.

1233
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: If I saw a big ball of snakes. Well that's you, though,

1234
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: Bridget I think I need that warning personally, because if

1235
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: I see a big ball of snakes, I'll be like huh.

1236
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: Like I saw a big ball of bees and I

1237
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: went up to this ball of bees and I was

1238
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: like huh. And only as I approached them, as what

1239
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: did I think, like, well, maybe it's not a good

1240
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: idea to disturb the be ball. But apparently they so

1241
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 1: they were actually just like searching for a new hive.

1242
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: And bees are actually quite doucile when they are in

1243
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: that state. So I was not in too much. Obviously

1244
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: I didn't go more anything, unlike some Unlike some people,

1245
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't bully random animals. But yeah, I would say,

1246
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: but I did. There there was a moment where I

1247
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: was like, you know, well I do know a lot

1248
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: about bees. I'm not a total be expert, so maybe

1249
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: I shouldn't approach this be ball. And I would caution

1250
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: other people not to approach random balls of bees either,

1251
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: because you never know. They could be they could be fighting.

1252
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: It could be that they're like chilling and searching for

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Speaker 1: a new hive and they're not particularly aggressive, or they

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Speaker 1: could be plotting something and you don't know it and

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna they're like trying trying to form a

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Speaker 1: megatron of bees and you wouldn't know it until it's

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Speaker 1: too late. Yeah, you don't want to be near that

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Speaker 1: when that comes up. Nope. Well, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining me today, Bridget and suffering through all of

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Speaker 1: the slug parts. Um, I really, but I promised you

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Speaker 1: I did not plan to torch you with this episode.

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Speaker 1: It was all I like, well, it's okay, No, you're

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Speaker 1: very I mean, you were very cut. You're as kind

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Speaker 1: as you could be about it. And I got off

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Speaker 1: easy last time I was on the cute episode. Next

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Speaker 1: time I'll try to have you on it on a

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Speaker 1: cute one again. Well we'll sort of like go back

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Speaker 1: and forth like horrifying cute, horrifying cute, I didn't have

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Speaker 1: the pupper fish. But yeah, that's true. That's memory. I'll

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Speaker 1: walk away with and the sea bunny and the sea bunny.

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Speaker 1: I think bunny. Sea Bunny really washes down the I

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Speaker 1: finally made peace with a mollusk and that's good. I'll see.

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Speaker 1: That's that's wonderful. That's beautiful. Yeah. Well, so do you

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Speaker 1: have anything to plug bridget? Uh? Yeah, you can head

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Speaker 1: over to a small beans Patreon or you know, Spotify

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Speaker 1: iTunes and listen to rough Stuff, a podcast that I

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Speaker 1: host where we invite some comedians on and we talked

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Speaker 1: about some embarrassing childhood moments. And then also we're have

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Speaker 1: another podcast, uh called The Casting the Curious where we're

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Speaker 1: reviewing the Fast of the Furious movies. That's great. Yeah,

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01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: so you can listen to either of those podcasts or both,

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Speaker 1: preferably on the small bean speeds. Yeah. I was on.

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Speaker 1: I was on rough Stuff and I talked about how

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01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: when I was when I was a baby, I hate

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Speaker 1: snails sometimes, and that's what I learned about bridgets a

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Speaker 1: huge problem with malls. Yeah, yeah, immediately, yep. Sorry. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on the internet at Creature feature pot

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at creature feet pot on Twitter. That's f

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Speaker 1: e A T, not f e T. That's something very different.

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Speaker 1: You can hear my Katie thoughts on Twitter at Katie

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Speaker 1: Golden or of course, as always, I am at pro

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01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 1: bird rites where I am trying to put the reins

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Speaker 1: of the world into the proper wings, not hands of birds.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's about times, about noble cause

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Speaker 1: it is noble cause kids, birds, the birds cost sometimes

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Speaker 1: some of them do. Anyway, Yeah, this is this is

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Speaker 1: a comedy podcast about animals. Thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. Really appreciate it. I hope you're all doing

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Speaker 1: doing all right out there. Um, if you're enjoying the show,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, like leaving a review and a rating and

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Speaker 1: subscribing and downloading, all those things really help. I know

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Speaker 1: it doesn't is you're you're sitting there with something like

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna that's not gonna help Katie. That's Katie

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Speaker 1: is not going to notice it when I rate it.

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Speaker 1: But I do. I feel it. I actually it's like

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Speaker 1: it feels like a thunderbolt going on through my heart

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Speaker 1: and like somebody rated my podcast. I'm so thankful. It

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Speaker 1: feels so good. It's like confetti everywhere. I love it

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Speaker 1: and it does actually really help the podcast gets us

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Speaker 1: up in the algorithms and that that helps the podcast

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