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Speaker 1: Hello Texans.

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermir John Harris with you here in the Hundai

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio studio at Sports Radio six ten, with Chris

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Speaker 2: Santiago behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: We are live.

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Speaker 2: It is happy New Year time. The league year begins today.

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Speaker 2: Began at three o'clock, so three hours ago. Teams had

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Speaker 2: to be under the salary cap number. And they all

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Speaker 2: got there according to the information I have here. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the Saints did it because they

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Speaker 2: had a major deficit issue. Hey, if they can do it,

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Speaker 2: the United States can do it too.

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Speaker 3: Structured therek Car pushed a credit card build another few

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Speaker 2: And they have thirteen million in cap space now somehow

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Speaker 2: justin reed today or yesterday. That's crazy. Well, he's got

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Speaker 2: to be happy to go to New Orleans, I guess

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Speaker 2: going back home. Yeah, he and tiring together again. That's wild, Huh.

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Speaker 2: The twenty eighteen banned back together in.

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Speaker 1: Smack of twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that just a moment, but

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Speaker 2: I want to remind you that Jonathan Alexander will be

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Speaker 2: with us at six point thirty to talk about the

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Speaker 2: Texans moves so far. And today was not one of

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Speaker 2: those days. Where we had hot and cold running Texans news.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I saw Nick Cassario from a distance in

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Speaker 2: the service level today. I want to say, Nick, come on,

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Speaker 2: I'm addicted to breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Put it in my veins.

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Speaker 3: The first couple of days of the week, we were

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Speaker 3: flying high with breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they hit that sounder once today,

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Speaker 2: Chris Santiago, Did they hit the sounder once today?

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Speaker 1: No? No, you're not gonna hit it for.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Zeitler signing with the Titans, although you might because

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Speaker 2: he was on a lot of people's radars as a

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Speaker 3: At guard Well, no, wait a second, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to confuse Chris because that would have been good news

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Speaker 3: to know because a lot of people were talking about

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Speaker 3: Kevin Zeitler right here in Houston. And not only that,

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Speaker 3: he goes to AFC self team. So's I don't want

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Speaker 3: to confuse Chris because Chris controls the sounder alarmed to

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Speaker 3: let us know. But that broke a couple of hours

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Speaker 3: or whatever. That's all I'm saying. Son Jenkins ends up

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Speaker 3: going to the Cardinals. I think people probably want to

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Speaker 2: News, all right, because it's a guy that maybe was

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Speaker 2: if it's really the team's radar.

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Speaker 1: But I have a theory. I know you have a.

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Speaker 3: Theory, and I want to hear all your theories. That's

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Speaker 3: what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: But we got to remind people that the Texans here

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Speaker 2: they are after the Laramie deal on Monday, and the

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Speaker 2: Christian Kirk deal last week, and getting CJ. Gardner Johnson

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Speaker 2: yesterday for Kenyon Green and a pick swap, and retaining

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Speaker 2: Mario Edwards, Derek Barnett, dari good Bawally last week, Jake

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Speaker 2: They signed Tremon Smith back in the fall, Nickneman, Sheldon Rankins,

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Speaker 2: Braxton Barrius wide receiver, Justin Watson wide receiver. Those are

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Speaker 2: some of the moves that they've made, but there's a

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Speaker 2: offensive line. It's the topic of the week because the

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Speaker 2: a chance to redo the line. We mentioned it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Three fifths of your starting lineup on the old line

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Speaker 2: And you brought up George Fant from a couple of

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Speaker 2: And the Indianapolis Colts, you mentioned the year twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I like precedent here. You can do it with young

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Speaker 2: going to bring in competition veterans or rookies and or rookies,

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Speaker 2: I should say, but don't discount the possibility of rookies

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Speaker 2: for you, right, young players started last year for you

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Speaker 2: a bunch of games did pretty well. Look, you won

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Speaker 2: And I hate to use the word hope when I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the best o line that I can remember

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Speaker 3: Quentin Nelson, guard on Notre Dame drafted him at six

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Speaker 3: So you had two rookies on it. Yeah, and let's

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Speaker 3: think about and I know the team was in different

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Speaker 3: he played the whole way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he played the whole that was his last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That young offensive line, Andrew Luck, behind the colden Smith,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Killing That's right. So you go into this. And

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Speaker 3: here's the thing. I know because you said it just

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Speaker 3: we've talked about this whole the swarm mentality.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about that, right, we talked about that a lot.

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Speaker 3: That that is what they want to see in their

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Speaker 3: They want dudes that swarm, you know, uh, special work,

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Speaker 1: That's what they want to have, right m hm.

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Speaker 3: Swarm is easier to get with young guys that you

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Speaker 1: I don't want to use what's the I don't want

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Speaker 3: You can't use that word anymore. You cannot use it

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Speaker 1: Idiot who's marrying her. No, just can't. It's good. That's

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Speaker 3: Lead singer, like I said, a captain and to Neil

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Speaker 3: it could have been bride and idiot's head.

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Speaker 1: But the things words have been canceled. That's one of them.

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Speaker 3: Younger players are a little bit easier to mold the

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Speaker 3: way that you want them to be when they when

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Speaker 3: you get them in the building. Now you'd like to

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Speaker 3: Tyler Booker's already an alpha. And I've talked about this

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Speaker 3: So that said, you're gonna he's gonna be attractive to

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Speaker 3: us for a number of reasons, but that's gonna be

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Speaker 3: one of them. But even at that point, you bring

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Speaker 3: go about it. So to me, in the offensive line,

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Speaker 3: I know that, hey they're pretty good athletes, they're young,

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Speaker 3: I get them cost controlled for how many ever years,

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Speaker 1: Well, if you bring a rookie in there, but we're

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Speaker 2: Any better, right well, and they already have to fit

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Speaker 3: They may look at this free agent class offensive lineman

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Speaker 3: from what I know during my draft research, Well, why

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: That was late too, right. I remember that at Khalil.

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Speaker 3: were talking about mat Khalil And you know what a

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Speaker 1: What year was that? Was that the Laramie year? I

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Speaker 3: Whatever happened that OTA's rookie mini camp. Once they met Titus,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know who thought he was a left tackle,

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Speaker 3: A good Brian's as good an evaluator of talent as

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Speaker 3: I I would, I would give Titus the opportunity, but

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Speaker 1: Well what were they saying? Were they saying, Blake, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's kind of what I That's kind of like.

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Speaker 1: Zach Thomas is going to have an opportunity. Nick Broke.

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Speaker 1: I thought he played decently in the in training camp.

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Speaker 3: Is my boy killian Zerr is still part of the organization, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm not saying he's going to materialize into a

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Speaker 2: The draft is coming up, Nick, drafts very well. You

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Speaker 2: we're talking about a two right here, and he's one

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Speaker 3: And he's got you know who on the other side,

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Speaker 3: this place in Kamari Lassiter fit together hand in glove

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Speaker 3: little bit more conservative. The only points on Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Fearless, the only points on Christmas Day scored by m

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Speaker 1: That was a that was a rough day. Het, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Did you post anything like for the next week? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I was pretty quiet because people did post who

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Speaker 3: You mean somebody posted some cleats with a Beyonce autograph

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Speaker 1: Off that happened that just I got beat in Justice?

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Speaker 3: Thirty one to two? It was only by twenty nine points.

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Speaker 3: that is what needs to be addressed every time somebody

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Speaker 3: and here's the other thing. I don't care if they

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Speaker 3: Just like everything else, we'll all be there together opening Day,

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Speaker 2: And you know what, Game one's not gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, of course you just mentioned that year with the

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Speaker 2: and that felt disgusting. Whenever somebody like somebody had the

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Speaker 3: you watch this team? Have you been here? I mean,

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Speaker 3: far more devastating.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I can probably give you ten or twenty, but

438
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Speaker 2: we'll just stick with the five, including but not limited to.

439
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Speaker 1: Losing to the freaking Colts in the playoffs. In your building,

440
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Speaker 1: all right, I'm done.

441
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Speaker 3: The only time that two AFC South teams have ever

442
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Speaker 3: played against one another in the playoff.

443
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Speaker 2: I didn't think I was gonna go on a rant tonight.

444
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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not gonna do it tonight, but

445
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Speaker 2: it's some and it's really do it for this state. Dude,

446
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Speaker 2: I've got a rant about the Zeppelin documentary that I

447
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 2: went to go see at an Imax theater, and I've

448
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 2: got a rant coming about that. And I love Zeppelin,

449
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 2: but I got a rant about that doc but we'll

450
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Speaker 2: do that another time.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love rant about the rodeo traffic trying to

452
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Speaker 3: get out over the station.

453
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Speaker 1: Can if you've been ran about Zeppelin, I can. I

454
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Speaker 1: can ran about the rodeo traffic. I love them. I

455
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 1: love the corn dogs, but damn, y'all got to mond.

456
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Speaker 2: Just glad people come to the rodeo, okay, and it's

457
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Speaker 2: so well attended, and it's awesome. It's one in the

458
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Speaker 2: afternoon and there are crowds on the sidewalk.

459
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Speaker 1: Why because everyone's looking for something to do. It's spring break.

460
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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful day. It's awesome.

461
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Speaker 3: I was asking by my wife the other day, Hey,

462
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Speaker 3: my my brother's friend is coming. Coworker friend is coming

463
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Speaker 3: to Houston, Like, what are the things that they could do?

464
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Speaker 1: First thing? Oh my god, rodeo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is great. This is the best time of

466
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Speaker 3: your great time. And the weather's tremendous. Weather's beautiful.

467
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Speaker 2: Not always this time of year, but often road is

468
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Speaker 2: an outstanding event. Now, you'd love to visit during the

469
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Speaker 2: fall for a Texans game. But if you can't do that,

470
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Speaker 2: you do this. If you play golf, great place to visit.

471
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Speaker 2: Other than that, you know, there are a couple of

472
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Speaker 2: other things you can do, a couple of other things,

473
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Speaker 2: maybe more than a couple, great food, you know the rest.

474
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Speaker 1: Where are we going with this?

475
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Speaker 3: Oh?

476
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Speaker 2: So the coltzowl line, blah blah, it's going to take

477
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Speaker 2: more than a week, Johnny, and we got to talk

478
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Speaker 2: about the Titans and Jonathan Alexander's going to join us

479
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Speaker 2: in a few minutes here. But speaking of short memories

480
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Speaker 2: with media members and reputable people who cover this league

481
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Speaker 2: and observe it, are.

482
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Speaker 1: They forgetting that the Chicago Bears?

483
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Speaker 2: I know the Bears have made some good moves on paper,

484
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Speaker 2: Right Where were people putting the Bears last year at

485
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Speaker 2: this time around in player acquisition time March April?

486
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Speaker 1: The Bears.

487
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Speaker 2: Look what they're doing. They're really loading up, especially after

488
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Speaker 2: the draft. Look what they got because we knew they

489
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Speaker 2: were going to take the quarterback anyway.

490
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Speaker 3: They had a lot of firepower. They're going to be

491
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Speaker 3: something to deal with.

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Speaker 2: They're going to contend they were on national television way

493
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: too much. Week two, well, Week two was fine because

494
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Speaker 2: the worst they could be going into that game would be.

495
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Speaker 1: Oh and one.

496
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Speaker 2: Right, So Week two fine, Bears sexy Caleb Williams whatever,

497
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Speaker 2: We went down to the wire with him, beat him great.

498
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Speaker 2: But I don't want to be watching the Bears in

499
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Speaker 2: Week fourteen in a primetime game when they're just sucking

500
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Speaker 2: wind and they're on an eighteen game losing streak or

501
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Speaker 2: whatever it was, and man us wait made us have

502
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Speaker 2: all Newton games. In twenty twenty three, people are saying

503
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Speaker 2: the same thing again, watch out for the Bears.

504
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Speaker 1: Look what they're ratting.

505
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Speaker 2: Okay, I know under new management, well not really under

506
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Speaker 2: new management, under new coaching.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but it's not in their head right now.

508
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Speaker 3: In agreement one hundred percent with you Packers fans, Yeah,

509
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Speaker 3: Packers fans are life still on them. Preach Mark preach

510
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Speaker 3: because the Bears are hot garbage, which it hurts because

511
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Speaker 3: I really like Jeff joniakatomp there, but they're gonna be better.

512
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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. It's own mind.

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Speaker 3: Tevin Jenkins being a Texan because I like his swarminess, but.

514
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Speaker 1: At that point. Yeah, you're right, that's.

515
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Speaker 3: But the whole league is wait and see. That's why

516
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: this time of year is so freaking fun. By the way,

517
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Speaker 3: what why are the Titans?

518
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Speaker 1: All right? I get signing Zeitler.

519
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: If you can get them, and I get it, this

520
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: means you're gonna draft the rookie, You're gonna draft cam Ward,

521
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Speaker 2: and you're gonna try to protect them because you don't

522
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Speaker 2: want what happened to Caleb Williams to happen. It can't

523
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Speaker 2: correct I understand that side. You're too late, and I

524
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Speaker 2: got to check their cap space. I mean, if they've

525
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Speaker 2: got the money to just kind of throw a that,

526
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Speaker 2: then good for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they do. They had some money. They had some money,

528
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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't really fault them for that, because what

530
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Speaker 2: did we say about them last year? Are you guys

531
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Speaker 2: loading up for a run? Because it's a little early.

532
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Speaker 2: It's a little early to be loading.

533
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Speaker 1: Up for a run.

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Speaker 3: But they might have felt like, look, the division will

535
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Speaker 3: be gettable. The Texans might backslide.

536
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Speaker 2: The Texans just didn't improve the way a lot of

537
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Speaker 2: people thought they would when they made some of the

538
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Speaker 2: acquisitions they did. Turns out, you've got to improve your

539
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Speaker 2: team every year. Otherwise, you know, just to try water.

540
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Speaker 2: You've got to improve your team every year. If you're

541
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Speaker 2: not improving your team, if you're gonna run it back

542
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Speaker 2: like the Colts did, you backslide, You've got to make

543
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Speaker 2: those difficult decisions and improve your football team.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't always work, obviously, but you gotta try.

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Speaker 3: Well, how many people anticipated that we were gonna have

546
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Speaker 3: a lesser season because oh, they're playing in first place schedule,

547
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Speaker 3: playing a first place schedule. Well, we went from having

548
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Speaker 3: a fourth place schedule in ten and seven, we went

549
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Speaker 3: to a first play schedule.

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Speaker 2: Well, you pointed this album ten and seven and it

551
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Speaker 2: affects three games three years per year. Now that's right

552
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Speaker 2: where you finish. And last year it was the Ravens,

553
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the Cowboys. Now, obviously you took care

554
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Speaker 2: of business against the Cowboys, you did and this.

555
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Speaker 3: And that might have been the difference because whether we're

556
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Speaker 3: Colt's nine and eight, I mean, that was the difference.

557
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Speaker 2: Ye, you're gonna play the Chiefs no matter what because

558
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Speaker 2: you're playing in the AFC West.

559
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Speaker 3: But Chiefs Ravens, Oh my god, Chiefs Ravens. And well,

560
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Speaker 3: we were going to play the Chief. Sorry, we got Ravens,

561
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Speaker 3: Bills and the Buccaneers. Those are the three that we

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Speaker 3: play with the first play schedule. Ravens, Bills, Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now these two of those are at home at

565
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Speaker 3: least that's good. But still, and that's the thing. We

566
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Speaker 3: better get used to playing Josh Lamar Patrick every year.

567
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Speaker 1: Win the division. Guess what you're playing those three every year.

568
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Speaker 2: Brady and Manning would play every year because they were

569
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Speaker 2: winning their divisions. So no matter where what division they

570
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Speaker 2: were lined up against, they were going to play each other.

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Speaker 1: That's one way or another. It was gonna happen, all right.

572
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Speaker 2: Coming up from the Houston Chronicle, let's catch up with

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander. Get his thoughts on what the Texans have

574
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Speaker 2: done so far and where they are going, because we

575
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Speaker 2: want to know what he thinks.

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Speaker 1: John McClain tomorrow. By the way, it's Texans Radio. Man.

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Speaker 2: This is a great week in sports because you have

578
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Speaker 2: free agency frenzy and you have all these college tournaments

579
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Speaker 2: which are in a frenzy with other leagues. I would

580
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: say the mid majors as they call them, and some

581
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Speaker 2: of them are minor majors. The word major should not

582
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Speaker 2: be involved with some of these conferences, but it's awesome

583
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: to see them get the automatic bids and now you

584
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Speaker 2: have the Big League starting up their tournaments. Like Johnny

585
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: and I watched Arkansas the end of Arkansas and South

586
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Speaker 2: Carolina today and Arkansas gasping for air at the end

587
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Speaker 2: of that game.

588
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Speaker 1: That was fun.

589
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 2: Some fun games, real excitement down the stretch. And speaking

590
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Speaker 2: of excitement, this man has been covering it for the

591
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Speaker 2: Houston Texans for the Chronicle, giving his thoughts breaking news.

592
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander. He joins us once a week. Jonathan, welcome,

593
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Speaker 2: all right, your thoughts, let's start here. Laromie Tunsl traded.

594
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Speaker 2: Your initial reaction, your reaction, now your overall assessment, because

595
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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are asking you about this.

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Speaker 4: Good evening and good evening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think I was a little bit surprised

598
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Speaker 5: initially at the trade for Laramie Tunsl, But come after

599
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Speaker 5: talking with a few people, I get their reasoning. You know,

600
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Speaker 5: the Texans, Laramie was gonna eventually want an extension at

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Speaker 5: some point, and the Texans just felt like they had

602
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Speaker 5: too many people to extend and they.

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Speaker 4: Were probably going to prioritize those guys. You look at it.

604
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Speaker 5: Derek Singley, he's gonna be due for extension this off season,

605
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: is probably gonna get one. Jalen Petrie as well. Next

606
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: year you got CJ. Stroud and Will Anderson. That's a

607
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 5: lot of money to pay those guys because a lot

608
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Speaker 5: of those guys, at least three of those guys are

609
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Speaker 5: probably going to be top five highest paid in their position,

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Speaker 5: maybe top maybe top three.

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Speaker 4: So you know, that doesn't leave much for Laramie.

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Speaker 5: And I think also you look at this offensive line

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Speaker 5: and what Nick and Demiko are doing, they want a

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Speaker 5: total makeover this offensive line.

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Speaker 4: I think, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, trading away Laraimi toun So getting picks back. Laramie

617
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Speaker 5: was one of the team captains. You bring in new voices.

618
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Speaker 5: I do have a little bit concern because I don't

619
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Speaker 5: know where that left tackle is going to go. And

620
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Speaker 5: I think, and I thought that they had some big

621
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Speaker 5: needs like left guard as well that they obviously need

622
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: to feel right guard is another position too, So I

623
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Speaker 5: just wonder how they're going to be able to address all.

624
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Speaker 4: Of those positions this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the chess pieces are going to be interesting. I

626
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: was asked today when I was on Tech SAgs hey

627
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Speaker 3: from a Cowboys standpoint, how should we look at this?

628
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Speaker 1: I said, well, I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna face Larryman Tunssel twice in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: And it'll be the best he's ever played.

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Speaker 3: It'll be the best you've ever seen because Laramy is

632
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: gonna prove a point and then Laramy's gonna want a

633
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: really big, big, big, big, big big deal. Yep, I

634
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: still got it. Look at my PFF score like, I

635
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: still got it. And then he's gonna want a big,

636
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: big deal. Then we'll see after that. But I got

637
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 3: a feel and Larry's gonna play pretty well for Washington.

638
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: He's got when Laraman gets a burrup his saddle like,

639
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: look out.

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Speaker 1: You know.

641
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Laramy did not like that he was called I think

642
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: it was I can't remember his pf ever who was

643
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: called him just just a solid left tackle like two

644
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: years ago. He retweeted that and then was like, I'll

645
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: show you they had his great shot. I think he's

646
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: got a really good year in Washington. But that said, Jonathan, Okay,

647
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: we've been talking about this about free agency draft. How

648
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Speaker 3: do you kind of look at that left tackle position.

649
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: We've talked about different options. Could Titus go over there,

650
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Speaker 3: could Blake Fisher go over there, draft somebody, I don't

651
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: know about signing anybody, trading for somebody. How do you

652
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: think they go about that left tackle position? What do

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Speaker 3: you think, in your mind makes the most sense to

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Speaker 3: you as of today? Could change a week or a

655
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Speaker 3: month from now, But as of right now, what do

656
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Speaker 3: you think is the best option to go ahead and

657
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Speaker 3: replace Larry and me going forward?

658
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Speaker 4: Yeah, in my opinion, you know, I agree with you.

659
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Speaker 5: I think signing a left tackle right now is a

660
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Speaker 5: legitimate starter is kind of out of the question. I

661
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Speaker 5: think right now the Texans are preparing for, you know,

662
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Speaker 5: one of the two, Blake Fisher or Titus Howard, probably

663
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Speaker 5: Titus Howard starting at left tackle and Blake Fisher starting

664
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Speaker 5: out right Guarden. I think the best option in that

665
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Speaker 5: case is you try and draft a left tackle early

666
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Speaker 5: in the first round of the draft, somebody you think

667
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Speaker 5: it could be your future.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, your Texans got some.

669
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Speaker 5: Good draft compensation in that trade with Washington, so I

670
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Speaker 5: think it's possible now they're more likely to move up

671
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Speaker 5: if they think a left tacacle could come off the

672
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Speaker 5: board before they picked. So That's that's what I would do,

673
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Speaker 5: because I also think they don't need a defensive tackle

674
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Speaker 5: as much as they did before free agency, and you

675
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Speaker 5: can find a guard probably early in the second round,

676
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Speaker 5: and they have that new pick from Washington, pick number

677
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Speaker 5: seventy nine, where they can probably address that.

678
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Speaker 4: Or use a couple of picks to move up.

679
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Speaker 5: So I would probably draft a left tackle and have

680
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Speaker 5: that person, you know, compete.

681
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Speaker 4: For that spot.

682
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Speaker 3: And don't be surprised if there is somebody that has

683
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Speaker 3: played left tackle in college and they draft, they move

684
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Speaker 3: them over to guard and then at some point transition

685
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Speaker 3: back off the tackle.

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Speaker 1: Look clear me did that Miami?

687
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Speaker 4: Oh that is a phenomenal point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do that.

689
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Speaker 5: Yeah, for that reason I like Gray.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, great point.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander jordan Us from the Houston Chronicle. Okay, second

693
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Speaker 2: biggest story of this free agency period, I'm gonna call it.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's a tie between c. J. Gardner Johnson

695
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Speaker 2: and Christian Kirk being acquired. I don't want to rank

696
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: those right now. Let's just start with CJ. Gardner Johnson.

697
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: You get him for Kenyon Green. There's some other stuff

698
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: involved in the deal. A pick swap. But what did

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Speaker 2: you make of that acquisition and Green saying bye bide.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually did. If I would have had a

701
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Speaker 5: greater move, I would have graded this move a I

702
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: thought this was a phenomenal movie. I didn't so much

703
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 5: like the Laramie Tunsel trade, but I did love this

704
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: trade because, you know, I didn't think Keyan Green had

705
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Speaker 5: a future in Houston. He struggled, you know, tremendously in

706
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 5: his three years, and I think the Texans were ready

707
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: to figure out a way to move on, and they

708
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 5: found a good trade partner in the Eagles, who were

709
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 5: also looking to move on from one of the safeties

710
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Speaker 5: in the NFL, who.

711
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Speaker 4: You know, is a playmaker.

712
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: Six interceptions last year, six interceptions a couple of years

713
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Speaker 5: before that. So you add him on to what is

714
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 5: already one of the better secondaries in the league. You

715
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Speaker 5: had him with Stingley Bullet and Kamara Lassiter uh and,

716
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Speaker 5: and I think you build one of the most one

717
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: of the best secondaries in the NFL to go along

718
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 5: with already a really good offensive defensive line that's mostly

719
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: intact from last year. So, uh, you know, I love

720
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Speaker 5: the move that Nick made, and I think it will

721
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Speaker 5: prove to be fruitful for Houston because he kind of fits, uh,

722
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: their style and what they what they want.

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Speaker 1: To do, Jonathan.

724
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Speaker 3: As you well know, Cooper Cup became a free agent

725
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Speaker 3: as of three pm Central time. The Rams end up

726
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: releasing him, didn't find a trade partner because that contract

727
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: was just too onerous. So I'll just ask it as

728
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: simply as I can, Cooper Cup to the Texans, yes

729
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Speaker 3: or no.

730
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Speaker 4: You know, obviously Cooper is going to have competition.

731
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Speaker 5: You know, I saw somewhere that the Jaguars could have

732
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 5: interest in. There's that connection with the Rams as well.

733
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 5: But you know, I do like the Texans to.

734
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Speaker 4: Me, you know, I haven't heard that the Texans are

735
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Speaker 4: interested or anything.

736
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 5: Like that, but just kind of doing some you know,

737
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 5: looking at the connections there with Nick Kyley and the

738
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: Texans need for another wide receiver. I know Kirk plays

739
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Speaker 5: slot and you also have a Cup who plays slot

740
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Speaker 5: as well.

741
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Speaker 4: But I think the Texans have learned.

742
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Speaker 5: That you're gonna have to have a lot of receivers

743
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 5: just because they've had a lot of injuries in the past.

744
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 5: Nico Collins missed a significant amount of games h Stephan

745
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 5: Diggs except for that season in the Injury in Tank,

746
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 5: Dell Dimko talked about it. You got to have multiple playmakers,

747
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: and I don't see a reason why the Texans would

748
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 5: just because Kirk and Coop and Cooper Cup play a

749
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Speaker 5: similar position. You know, I think they would, and I

750
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: think they should go after a guy like Cooper Cup,

751
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 5: who I.

752
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Speaker 4: Think still has a lot left in the tank, and

753
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: apparently it's really.

754
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: Highly motivated to prove people wrong that he can still

755
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 5: play at a high level.

756
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Jonathan Jonathan Alexander joining us from the Houston Chronicle Jonathan

757
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: true or false? The Texans defense is loaded, and I

758
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: said it that way on purpose. It's all about the

759
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: inflection and the delivery.

760
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Speaker 5: No, that's great, No, I think they are. I drew

761
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 5: it out on paper, and you know, I got a

762
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 5: little pick through by gentlemen broy my handwriting in the

763
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Speaker 5: in the lines, and it's not.

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Speaker 1: The handwriting it was. It was the lined paper. Yeah,

765
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't put it on blank paper.

766
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Speaker 4: I mean it wasn't my best work.

767
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Speaker 5: But looking at it, yes, I do think the Texans

768
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 5: have re upped their defense, bring back mostly a lot

769
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: of the same guys, added some playmakers. They're on paper

770
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Speaker 5: last year they were one of the best defenses in

771
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Speaker 5: the league, and this year they'll be you know, good again.

772
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 5: And and and I see the potential there in the

773
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Speaker 5: draft to continue to supplement, particularly.

774
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Speaker 4: The defensive line.

775
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 5: I bet you thought had some defensive tackles probably there

776
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 5: in the third round to continue to build, uh what

777
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 5: they're building or or defensive lineman. So yeah, I think

778
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 5: on paper and based on what we knew from last year,

779
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 5: the Texans defensive defense is gonna be good if they

780
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: can stay healthy. And if they're Gonnamain healthy, you got

781
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 5: probably gonna get guys like Christian Harris back. The Nigo

782
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 5: Archery won't be hopefully won't be suspended for the first

783
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 5: six games like he was, and and and you're gonna

784
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: have that defensive line who's gonna be trying to get

785
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: after people.

786
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: And then the year three will Anderson that'll be crazy.

787
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: But but but this defense, is he gonna be able

788
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: to stop Indiana Jones at the Temple of Zoom up

789
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 3: in Indianapolis? Though, I mean, seriously, Jonathan Daniel Jones goes

790
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: to the Colts, I mean, can this defense stop him?

791
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Is he the starter? You think it's Richardson?

792
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 3: How do you think that plays out with Daniel Jones

793
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: going to Indianapolis.

794
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think it'll be a competition, and

795
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 5: you know, I think Daniel Jones.

796
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: Is good enough to be a starter.

797
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 5: And you know, just I was there at Chris Ballas

798
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 5: press conference at the Combine and they didn't seem too

799
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 5: high on Anthony Rigison. And I think the fact that

800
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 5: they added Daniel Jones probably means that, you know, it'll

801
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 5: be It'll be a fair competition in training camp, and

802
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: I could see Daniel Jones, being his experience and being

803
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 5: a little bit more of a sure fit, could probably

804
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 5: win out. Or they'll have Anthony Rigison on the short

805
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 5: leash and then Daniel Jones will come in as soon

806
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 5: as Anthony Richardson messes up. And having said that, you know,

807
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 5: I saw the preseason game how the Texans played Daniel Jones,

808
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 5: and they had no problem with him.

809
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: But I do think he could beat Richardson out.

810
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: So in your mind, no doubt, Tennessee, they got to

811
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: go with the quarterback number one, or trade down and

812
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: draft another quarterback and stockpile some picks. But what do

813
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: you think in there in Nashville, The plan for the

814
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 2: most important position on the football team.

815
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Will Levis's clearly not the long term answer.

816
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 5: I think cam Ward is considered the top ten pick

817
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: in this draft. And if you're a top ten pick

818
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: and you're the top quart clearly the top quarterback where

819
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: everybody views you as one that you think that he

820
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 5: can be a leader, a guy who can do more

821
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 5: than what you have right now, I think you take

822
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: that chance. Now, if the Titans were picking number two,

823
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: War was off the board and we had to you know,

824
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 5: and they had to pick between Sanders, I think maybe

825
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: you could question that and maybe take a dual Carter instead.

826
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 5: But I think with Ward, who is I think the

827
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 5: consensus number one quarterback, I think you have to take

828
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 5: him if you're the Titans.

829
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, at this point, because it doesn't

830
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: appear Russell Wilson has an interest in Tennessee. Aaron Rodgers

831
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 3: might actually go to Minnesota, which will be wild.

832
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: Well, that's on the radar right now, that's on the

833
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: radar screen.

834
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Apparently the Vikings are thinking about it, and Rogers is

835
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: considering it. Russell Wilson is going to take a visit

836
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: to Cleveland. I think he's there right now. Yeah, Uh,

837
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: he's hanging out and in Cleveland. He and de Shawn Watson.

838
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Speaker 1: I'm sure.

839
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: So Jonathan Russell Wilson to Cleveland, Russell Wilson to the Giants?

840
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: Which one do you think makes most sense? To take

841
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: the money out of it, but just opportunity with the

842
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: Giants or the Browns? Which one you think is better

843
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: for Russell Wilson And depending on which when he picks,

844
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: how do you think that impacts maybe the draft and

845
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: what teams are thinking.

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00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see him going to Cleveland probably. I

847
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: don't know why I feel that way, but I just

848
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: feel like with the uncertainty of design Watson and them.

849
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: Uh, and the Browns didn't get a quarterback right in

850
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: free agency?

851
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 5: It's correct, Yeah, it to me, it just seems like

852
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 5: they have to have a different answer. And and being

853
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: that they pick what is it, where does the Browns

854
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: pick to? Yeah, being that they picked two and and

855
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 5: cam Boy is probably likely to come off the board,

856
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 5: I think they have to have a backup option.

857
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: Just because I see a lot of people down on Sanders.

858
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 5: I think that they'll probably choose Russell Wilson and then

859
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 5: you know, plan for their future and probably draft to

860
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 5: somebody else. Maybe in the second round.

861
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: They have Kenny Pickett, but there's no way they're starting

862
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett. No way they can start Russell.

863
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: See you think about it, going, getting going and getting

864
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: picket helps him. Now let's say you signed Russell Wilson.

865
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: Now you are Russell Wilson and Kenny Pickett. That leaves

866
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: you at number two to do what you want right.

867
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: That leaves you to take Abdua Carter and put him

868
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: ops in Miles Garrett and oh my god, you you

869
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: now become violent on defense with those two guys, and

870
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: then you can go get your guy at the top

871
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: of the second round or trade back up into the

872
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: first round and get another quarterback at Jackson, Dart, Tyler, Schuck,

873
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: et cetera.

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00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: One more for you, Jonathan, Jonathan Alexander joining us from

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Speaker 2: the Chronicle. Is there gonna be a big move and

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Speaker 2: you don't have to say what It's gonna be a trade,

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00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: a huge free agent acquisition. I'll put Cooper cup in

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00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: that huge free agent acquisition because he's a big name

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00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: the Texans.

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00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the Texans.

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00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: Is there gonna be something like that within the next

882
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: forty eight hours? Or are we kind of where we are,

883
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: and the Texans are going to continue to sign some guys,

884
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: but not sportsset leading news, not stuff that'll just sell

885
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: all the season tickets in the world and gear up

886
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: for the draft.

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00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts there?

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00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I refuse to believe that Demiko is gonna just

889
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 5: be satisfied with what they have now.

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00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what the.

891
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 5: Move will be, but I do anticipate in them making

892
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 5: some type of significant move or or signing or trading.

893
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: Or for somebody who will help them be better.

894
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: Just listening to Di Miko at the combine and even

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00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 5: Nick Casario and just how they feel like they even

896
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 5: though they might not sign players to huge contracts, they

897
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 5: still plan go after some of the top players, even

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Speaker 5: if it's.

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Speaker 4: At a reduced price.

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00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 5: So I believe that somehow, you know, they'll make away

901
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: just like they did for CD Gardner Johnson, they got

902
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: a really great player for a reasonable deal. So I

903
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 5: think I think the Texans would have something up their

904
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: sleeves coming up.

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Speaker 2: Cool, All right, So what else do you have in

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00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: the chronicle for us to pay attention to?

907
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a lot of We have a tracker we're

908
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 5: keeping track of all the free agents who assign have

909
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 5: some analysis to go along with it, one that'll hopefully

910
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: be posted tomorrow morning. But we're trying to keep tracking

911
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 5: and trying to give all the readers all the intel

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00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 5: on the latest free agency and what's happening.

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00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: Sounds good, Jonathan, Thanks a lot for the visit, as always,

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Speaker 2: thanks for having me, Jonathan Alexander Houston Chronicle, joining us

915
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 2: on Texans Radio and coming up, Johnny and I will

916
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: answer the question I just asked, will there be a

917
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: big move in the next forty eight hours of trade,

918
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: free agent acquisition, something pretty massive for this team?

919
00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Will there be?

920
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: We'll answer that next year on Texans All Access. Okay,

921
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 2: is there a big move in the next forty eight hours, Johnny?

922
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: Big move meaning trade or Cooper cup or some acquisition

923
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: of that nature that really moves the needle. I mean,

924
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some signings here. Today was very quiet.

925
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some signings here. I need the excitement

926
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: of breaking news. You remember this time of year. I

927
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: don't care if it works or I'm just kidding about

928
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: Remember Dave in Uh what was on the Chappelle Show.

929
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: I can't remember what he was called. Uh, and he

930
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: was he was out. He's a junker, the crrec guy.

931
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you got any of that breaking news, Nick.

932
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: You got any of those offensive guards getting those OFFENSI guards,

933
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: I gotta have, I gotta have it.

934
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: What about to tackle? I've used that meme a lot. Yeah, yeah,

935
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: that's yeah.

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00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: I think I think there is a move that's common,

937
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: and obviously we're gonna chance to determine how sexy that

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00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: move is.

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00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 4: Up you do?

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00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: What do the exercise you just did with me during

941
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: the break? What Can I interest you in a free agent?

942
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: Yes? Or no?

943
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

944
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay? Do it?

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00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: Can I interest you in a free agent? Okay, all right,

946
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: do it? Let's play along here. Okay, these are These

947
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: are in order, play too. These are in order of

948
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: their previous year's average annual value contract.

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00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

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00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: So they're big names, yeah, okay, Aaron Rodgers No, No,

951
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup yes.

952
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs.

953
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean obviously the money would have to be am

954
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: I interested Diggs? Yes, I'm interested in Diggs.

955
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 4: Uh.

956
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen No, I love Keenan, but I love him too,

957
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 2: Johnny always liked him. But I feel like it's late

958
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: in the game here.

959
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: I think so too.

960
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Amari Cooper, I feel like no, I want to

961
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: say no, I'm with you, Von Miller, but you know

962
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: I could be talked into Cooper.

963
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: No, no, I think he's cooked. Okay, this is me

964
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: Von Miller. No, Brandy Cooks. No, Deontay Johnson. Oh sure

965
00:43:53,520 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: No that was a sarcastic response, Cam Robinson. No, Brandon Sheriff, Yeah,

966
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: why not?

967
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Sure?

968
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: Tyler Tyler Lockett love him, wanted them to draft him,

969
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: but that was four hundred years ago when he was drafted.

970
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: I mean, what year did he come out? Was that

971
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: thirteen to fourteen? What was that?

972
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: It was fourteen? I think she's fourteen.

973
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: I love Tyler Lockett, but no, not at this stage.

974
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: Lockett was fifteen because he went one pick before James.

975
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Still a long time ago, relatively.

976
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: Matthew Judon, No, Joe Noteboom rams, he's gonna turn thirty

977
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 3: at the start of training.

978
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: Why is he still out there? He plays tackle? Right? Yeah?

979
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: You know I could see them bringing in somebody like

980
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: him former ram To Yeah, just to compete for a

981
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: spot possibly depth. Yeah, I'll say yes because the money's

982
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: gonna be right.

983
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: Preston Smith, that's the linebacker. No, James Bradbury corner. No,

984
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: you know what's great to not need an edge guy,

985
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: to not need I'll put a.

986
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: Quarterback corner, especially this year, not want to ad a quarterback.

987
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, needing a quarterback's a question for fast What what

988
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: do we didn't have a quarterback? Take all the other

989
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: pieces we have, and let's say we did that, we

990
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: did sign Cooper Cup.

991
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: You think Aaron Rodgers would be interested here?

992
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, with this defense, with mixing Nico, I would say, yeah,

993
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 3: oh sure, with what he's got on the table.

994
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: Wait, what was he considering? Oh, Minnesota, but that's a

995
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: good team.

996
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: He's looking at Minnesota and Minnesota apparently is kicking the tires.

997
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: How do you feel about practice? If you're JJ mccarth.

998
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: Using your mind, you know, if you're JJ, you can

999
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: just look at Rogers and go that dude's sat for

1000
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: three years behind Brett Farv.

1001
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look what he became.

1002
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: And he might get hurt anyway, you know, you learn

1003
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: the offense a little bit more and do some good

1004
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: things in pre season, and look, Rogers is probably gonna

1005
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: get hurt, yeah at some point, So you're gonna step

1006
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: in and be the hero after that it's quarter next

1007
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: free agent is a man named Shaq Mason. No things,

1008
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 3: Darius Smith. That's a linebacker. No, Mike Williams, big wide receiver,

1009
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: he's out there. Huh Yeah, now there's a big wide receiver.

1010
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: But I just why is he Why is he still

1011
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: out there? He wasn't very productive in Pittsburgh. He's been

1012
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 3: hurt a lot. Yeah, I think I think he's past it.

1013
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: But you know what, at the end, you're going to

1014
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: go to the bargain bin, as you would call it, right,

1015
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna go there and they're gonna be the clearance

1016
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: rack is going to have like that really nice shirt

1017
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: that somehow slipped.

1018
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: Through the crowd.

1019
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a Marshall's. Yeah, you get a hill figure

1020
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: for like ten bucks.

1021
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: Oh listen, I've been to Ross and find some unbelievable absolutely,

1022
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: but your kids hit or miss, you've gotta be willing

1023
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: to walk out say no, no, not today. That's exactly

1024
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: where the new shipment came in. Yeah, you hit it

1025
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: just right. There's something in there. There's a little tiny

1026
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: gem in there.

1027
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 3: For Steere Agency is like going to Marshalls and sense

1028
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: like you can get the polo for fifty nine to

1029
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: ninety nine, and that's cheaper than what you would get

1030
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: at a polo store. But you could also get you know,

1031
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: nice little v neck for like ten You get like

1032
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: three of them for like ten bucks, and neck.

1033
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Get you through.

1034
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: Listen, I'll wear the Reebok kicks. Yeah, if they're attractive. Uh, next,

1035
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: be like that.

1036
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: That's a dad brand. Yeah.

1037
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: Next free agent? Four years of service is crazy, he's

1038
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: under twenty five. Trey Lance quarterback. I'm kidding, Jeff Akuda.

1039
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Here's one Charles a minute.

1040
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: Who No, No, it's not gonna happen. Sorry, Charles, not

1041
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: gonna happen here.

1042
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Okay, you wanted to give that a ding so badly?

1043
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not gonna end. All right, thank you Chris

1044
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: for producing. Tomorrow night, we're gonna have the General on John.

1045
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna claim to discuss everything happening with the Texans

1046
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: and who knows if a big move happens or no.

1047
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 5: Oh.

1048
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: My answer to the question is, I don't think a

1049
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: huge one's coming in the next forty eight hours. I

1050
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: hope it is because it's always fun to discuss and

1051
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: could be really good for this football team. We'll find out.

1052
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: But I like the way things are shaping up. Long process,

1053
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: draft coming up late April, more free agents on the way,

1054
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: we'll continue to discuss.

1055
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: Area forty five is next.

1056
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: Keep it right here tomorrow, Sean Steth kickoff your day

1057
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: with everything going on in free agency and other stuff.

1058
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: Of course, have a great night, Go Texans.