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Speaker 1: From the RAMS Studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. I am your host, Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: This is the official podcast of the RAMS dot Com.

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Speaker 1: With me, I've got laughing Super Bowl Champion Defensive Tackle

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Speaker 1: RAMS Radio Network sideline recorder. My friend DeMarco farrar One

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Speaker 1: is fun, right, isn't It has two numbers? Fun when

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Speaker 1: you put the three in front of the one. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the way it's kind of been before

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Speaker 1: in some of these years that you know, you and

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Speaker 1: I have been together. So yeah, tough win, I mean tough,

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Speaker 1: hard fought win in Arizona. Um. Yeah, the second Brian

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Speaker 1: Quick touchdown. I was staring right at you in the

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Speaker 1: breast ball and two weeks in a row that you

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Speaker 1: start off the show of lasting me about Ryan of course, Um,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to work on for him. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, two catches hit the end zone. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a shame that two catches, two touchdowns, and damn there

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Speaker 1: are a thirty five yard average averages out to a

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Speaker 1: sea for him. You know what I mean? Interesting? What

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Speaker 1: do you mean by a sea? Well, six targets, two

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Speaker 1: catch okay, yes, yeah, and he had some few drops

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Speaker 1: that that could have helped the offense in that situation,

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Speaker 1: but the two touchdowns definitely helped. You don't win without

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Speaker 1: those two TVs, you know, but those drops made it

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Speaker 1: harder for you to win. So it's too bad that

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Speaker 1: that sort of game averages out to a seat right

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Speaker 1: for him? And well, I think, you know, as we

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Speaker 1: talk about the seventeen to thirteen victory that the Rams

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Speaker 1: had over the Arizona Cardinals there to get them to

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Speaker 1: three and one, and it's the first time. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: get this out too, that it's the first time they're

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Speaker 1: three and once since two thousand and six. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know it had been that long. Yes, wow, it's a

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Speaker 1: long time. It is a long time. Yeah, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's think about the things we were doing in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six. Where were you doing in two thousands?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I can't remember yesterday. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's it's hard unless I take notes. But no, I mean,

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Speaker 1: when do you think about all those games they were in.

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Speaker 1: It's not like the Rams were blown out early. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they're getting the breaks or maybe they finally learned how

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Speaker 1: to win or not lose games that could be what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing. I think it's I think it's all of

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Speaker 1: those things put together. And so oh, let's stick with

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Speaker 1: the offense though since we started there. I think you're

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Speaker 1: right about Brian Quick being like, you get these good

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Speaker 1: plays and then you get the bad plays. But I

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Speaker 1: think the simple fact that when you catch two passes

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Speaker 1: and both of them are touchdowns, big that averages out

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Speaker 1: at least to me, that that's a pretty good day.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no doubt. I mean, that's a really good day,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna help. But I mean, look, Isaac Bruce.

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Speaker 1: I even talked to Larry Fitzgerald about this before the game.

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Speaker 1: The great ones only remember the bad plays. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wonder how he felt about his game. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I bet if you're a great player, you only remember

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Speaker 1: the drop. So he's going to get better. But the

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Speaker 1: things we're seeing now, they're helping the offense. You're pulling

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Speaker 1: the defense off of Todd Gurley each and every week

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Speaker 1: when you do things like that, Yes, and people are

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Speaker 1: going to maybe start doing that a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: especially because Kenny Brett we talked about him last week

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Speaker 1: and the simple fight you said, he looks like a

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Speaker 1: different guy. Yeah, I think he has kind of been

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Speaker 1: a different guy. I think the stats bear this out.

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Speaker 1: Was looking it up, you know, in twenty fourteen and

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Speaker 1: his catch percentage was fifty seven point one. Twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: it's fifty so that's targets to receptions fifty percent last year.

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Speaker 1: Guess what it is right now, seventy Yes, it is

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Speaker 1: sixty nine, so that's seventy percent. So that's where the

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Speaker 1: significant difference is there. And then you also look at

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Speaker 1: his stats. He's averaging seventy point three yards per game.

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Speaker 1: Right now you realize that, will you know? If you

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Speaker 1: bear that out for sixteen games, Yeah, yeah, that's over

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards. I mean that's something you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: might fit it into Dez Bryant. We get this first

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Speaker 1: So maybe not as explosive as a Julio Jones, but

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Speaker 1: parts would be a part. Yeah, yeah, they sure does.

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Speaker 1: It's just you know, when you're when your teammates and

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Speaker 1: you have a feel for how he plays and how

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Speaker 1: situations versus versus what we're seeing, you're gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the same page now if you can get Case and

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Speaker 1: Greg Robinson on the same page. Yeah, you know where

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Speaker 1: where I need to stand as a quarterback will only

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Speaker 1: make us better. So those connections with Brett, that back

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Speaker 1: shoulder touchdown amazing. I mean, with with with Quick was amazing.

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Speaker 1: The look in for Brian Quick to Case Keenum, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: They're on the same page. Finding tavon Austin deep with

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Speaker 1: that that took some some stones to make that throw

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Speaker 1: going into that game. Did you ever think that case

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Speaker 1: Keenum would overthrow Tavon Austin. There's no versus Patrick Pete. Rightly,

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Speaker 1: there's no way I thought, and that's an offensive case

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Speaker 1: or anybody else. It's just it's the way Patrick Peterson plays.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get him. So that's the chemistry. But

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Speaker 1: now if you can get that protection to where if

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Speaker 1: if he takes an inside charge step out, yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: and make those guys work well. Yes, And now Greg

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Speaker 1: Robinson has become a story. And I said this on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: not gonna be Hill McGhee and say like Greg Robinson

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Speaker 1: had not going to be who Schill McGhee. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I just made that name. Shill McGhee. Shill McGhee, I

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Speaker 1: camera for those Hill McGhee, Sorry, all I heard was

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Speaker 1: Shill McGhee. Well, yeah, you know I finished the point.

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Speaker 1: Please the point, mister McGhee. Shill McGee. Wow. The point

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Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm not trying to keepe up for somebody.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that one? Cape up? Yeah? I didn't

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Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make is that I think

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Speaker 1: Greg Robinson has played okay. I don't think he's been

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Speaker 1: as bad as some people think. Agreed, And I think

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Speaker 1: chemistry between your quarterback and your left tackle. On that

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Speaker 1: play where case Keenum is sack fumbled, yea, right, there's

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Speaker 1: an opportunity there, at least it looked like to me

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Speaker 1: not to say that Greg Robinson does not need to

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Speaker 1: very very good pass rusher. He can. Ye, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying Greg Robinson doesn't need to be better. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: that both Greg Robinson and case Keenum can do a

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Speaker 1: better job. Absolutely. I've watch Brady do it. I've watched

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Speaker 1: Carson por do it in that game? Just by where

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Speaker 1: Gators differ some of the best pass rushes, and think

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Speaker 1: about what Russell Wilson does to the Rams defensive line,

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Speaker 1: makes them work by moving around. Yes, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: about case keenom this game in Arizona. It looks like

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Speaker 1: that confidence is starting to grow. But you know when

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Speaker 1: it's a third and forever and the whole world knows

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Speaker 1: you're about to throw. Well, Greg knows what he has

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Speaker 1: in the speed rusher. Sure he knows the arsenal of

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Speaker 1: this guy likes to beat guys over the top. Let

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Speaker 1: but I thought Greg, like five percent of the stuff

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Speaker 1: of the things he does by being too aggressive, hurts

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Speaker 1: about that? That's what I'm saying. I think the lineman

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Speaker 1: they're trying to make this point. I think we saw

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Speaker 1: this kind of thing from Carson Palmer during the game

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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn was going to sack fumble him. It's like

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Speaker 1: Quinn was kicking his ass. Yeah, so you can bleep

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Speaker 1: that if you want. So, Yes, great example of an

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Speaker 1: I think as these two guys grow together, and you know,

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Speaker 1: as these two guys continue to grow together, then I

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Speaker 1: So let's turn into the defense too, So sure, five takeaways,

424
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Speaker 1: that's a lot. That's a lot, and I think it

425
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Speaker 1: speaks volumes about the way probably that they know the

426
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Speaker 1: Cardinals and just the way that they were physically getting

427
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Speaker 1: after them. Yeah, getting the ball out the pick by

428
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Speaker 1: Tremaine Johnson is perfect. Couldn't play that any better? That great?

429
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean just beautiful. I mean he baited the guy

430
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 1: baated Carson Palmer, and I mean that'll learn you, that'll

431
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 1: learn you not to try him again. So I mean

432
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: that that's big time stuff there. And if you get

433
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Speaker 1: your hands on all the ones that you know, if

434
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Speaker 1: you pick off all the ones you got your hands

435
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Speaker 1: on him. You might be talking about seven or eight. Yeah, yeah,

436
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's that's really good pass coverage. Um. Now,

437
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 1: if you look at the you know the yards John Brown,

438
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Speaker 1: major pay he did a lot, but ten receptions one four,

439
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 1: that's that's hard. I mean that flies in the face

440
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 1: of great coverage. It does. But there's great ball skills

441
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 1: and you're making great plays when the balls in the air,

442
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 1: and you're getting good pressures. So there's some good things.

443
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 1: There's some things to like, but there's some things you

444
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 1: need to work on defense, absolutely, And I think you

445
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Speaker 1: know what, we saw EJ. Gaines get back out there

446
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Speaker 1: at cornerback. It looks like he is going to be

447
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Speaker 1: the starter going forward. If you look at the snap counts,

448
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 1: he was above fifty percent. He was playing most of

449
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Speaker 1: the second half. I think he really got in there

450
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Speaker 1: in the second quarter, and I don't think they put

451
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Speaker 1: Troy Hill back in there on the outside, even though

452
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Speaker 1: Troy Hill got the start. So EJ. Gaines looks like

453
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Speaker 1: he's back and he made a really good past deflection

454
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Speaker 1: in the end zone. It is actually, yeah, he gets

455
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Speaker 1: his hands on that secures it. There's no one there

456
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Speaker 1: on that sideline. I mean he is Dion Sanders high

457
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 1: stepping down the Cardinals sideline. Um. But yeah, I love

458
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Speaker 1: the way he plays. I love his temperament. I mean

459
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 1: he's a great athlete, he's a great corner, he's technically sound,

460
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Speaker 1: but I love his temperament. I mean one, he is

461
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: literally one snapping clear. Good play, bad play, it's over,

462
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: He's moved on to the next. So I think that's

463
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Speaker 1: important to have at corner. The last thing you want

464
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: is a guy that gets too high or too low. Yes, yeah,

465
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: unless you're Tremaine Johnson and you just stay up here.

466
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, stay way up. But you know, I think

467
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 1: that's part of why Eja Games was so successful as

468
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 1: a rookie, just to be a six round pick, right,

469
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: and then to go on and start fifteen of the

470
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Speaker 1: sixteen games. The only reason he didn't start the last

471
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: one was because he had a concussion, right, So he

472
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: was hurt, and that's white and start. So he's got

473
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Speaker 1: something a little bit special about him to be able

474
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Speaker 1: to play the way he has. And now that he's

475
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Speaker 1: got this experience and he's bringing that back with him,

476
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Speaker 1: I think that gives a secondary real boots. Ye, he's

477
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Speaker 1: a good, good football player, which means he's able to

478
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Speaker 1: read and diagnose what you're trying to do to him,

479
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yes, Oh yeah, absolutely, Oh

480
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Speaker 1: this is that. Let me get up here. Okay, they're

481
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Speaker 1: trying to do this. I'll do that either I can

482
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Speaker 1: adjust mid drive or the next time out you're not

483
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: going to get me with the same move. So that's

484
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: great to have. That's that's great to have if you're

485
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn and Aaron Donn. Oh. Yes, two good corners

486
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,239
Speaker 1: like that, and you know safeties that you know can

487
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: light you up. That really get in the mind of

488
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Speaker 1: receivers because all you eat is for that quarterback just

489
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: to hold it for a split second. Even if you

490
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: don't get the sack, you get the shot, you get

491
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: a hard hit on him. So yeah, that's that all

492
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: adds up to good defense. You know what I kind

493
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Speaker 1: of found interesting last week I'm talking to Greg Williams,

494
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, in his media session. He said that talks

495
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Speaker 1: to you, well, I mean he talks to everybody, really

496
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: talks to you. Oh okay, he says hello to me

497
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: when he sees me. He's a very nice man. You know,

498
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Speaker 1: I have to change my opinion of him, then what

499
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: just saying, go ahead, anyway, that's interesting, messing with you guys. Okay, good,

500
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Speaker 1: that'd be messive with me. He's like the nicest person

501
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: we saw each other. Oh yeah, yeah, all right, okay, ahead,

502
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. Yes, this is my show, you're okay, Yeah,

503
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: there he is. He's smiling at the camera. This is great.

504
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: This is great when you do this for the people

505
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: who listen on the podcast, want them to know you. Yeah,

506
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: you smile at the camera. You're like getting I don't

507
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Speaker 1: know a quartered half Simmons knows with you. I know

508
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Speaker 1: you hate my Simon because nobody whose name with two

509
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: ms is Simon, just Miles Simon is more famous than you.

510
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: Who's that? Who's Miles Simon? I don't know who that is.

511
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna introduce you to Miles Simon anyway, go ahead,

512
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Speaker 1: all right, Well, I kind of no, I didn't lose

513
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: fans now hate you, but that's okay. Oh, I'm sure

514
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of them listening to the podcast,

515
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: a lot of Rams fans. Go ahead, maybe all right, anyway,

516
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Speaker 1: So we're talking to Greg Williams. He's having the media session,

517
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Speaker 1: and he talked about the way coverage and rush have

518
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: to work hand in hand. Yeah. Right, So what he's

519
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: saying is a lot of times when you have these

520
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: long balls, and you know, talking about this in relation

521
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Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals, part of the issue is that

522
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: the rush is not getting there, right. So if the

523
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Speaker 1: rush is not getting there, then that's why these long

524
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Speaker 1: routes have chances to develop. So in order to stop that,

525
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: you have to have your pass rush be good. And

526
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Speaker 1: I thought that was really interesting just because of the

527
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Speaker 1: way people always want to talk about all, well the corner.

528
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Speaker 1: Let this thing happened, and it's like, it's not just

529
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Speaker 1: the corner. You know, they're eleven guys out there on

530
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Speaker 1: each each team, right, Um, okay, it's it all depends

531
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: on how the old line blocks you. The longer the route,

532
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: the deeper the drop, the longer they have to protect. Right.

533
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: So when I see that quarterback set up at seven,

534
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: I've got to get there. I've got to get there now.

535
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: But the offensive lineman is going to step back, which

536
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: means he's going to make it as long as he can.

537
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: The amount of time for me to get to his

538
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks so I have to win that rush to put

539
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback so he can't step into it

540
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: or just draw a bead on a guy. Now, how

541
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: it flips for the d line is if he's getting

542
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: the ball out fast, which means the offensive line is

543
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: setting aggressively. I can get a quick swim. But if

544
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: you can't cover, if you can't hold him up for

545
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: a half second, I can't get to him. Right, So

546
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: it all works hand in hand. So short routes, I

547
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: need tight coverage to get to him. Yeah, long routes,

548
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: you need me to get there unless that guy's going

549
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: to run past you eventually and the ball is gonna

550
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: get there. So it all works hand in hand. So

551
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Speaker 1: I always assumed, and I love the quarterbacks I played with,

552
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: but I always assumed that we couldn't cover. Oh man,

553
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: that's rude. No, I'm serious. I always have seen. I

554
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: understand the way you're staying in, but that's like there's

555
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: a sense of urgency. I'll always assume that we're not

556
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: going to be able to cover this guy. Let me

557
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: tell you, Miles, in a playoff situation, when you break

558
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: the huddle right, you've got Jeff George, who's got a

559
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: world class whip, and Chris Carter goes that way and

560
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: Randy Moss goes that way. Guess what, you probably can't cover?

561
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: All right, that's fair, That's what I'm saying. I always

562
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: assume that we can't get there, so I have to

563
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: get to you before you can, you know, paint our

564
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: guys and draw a beat on him. But when he's

565
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: throwing short and quick, you've got to help me with

566
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: pass covers. Yes, if he throws that quick slant, you've

567
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Speaker 1: got to knock it down because I can't help you anyway,

568
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: right because if he's getting the ball out in two

569
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: seconds or less, that's just the way things working. So

570
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: we have a relationship with rush and cover, and that's all.

571
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing I want to point out there.

572
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know sometimes if people realize just

573
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: how big they're of the relationship there is there. It's

574
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Speaker 1: not just one, it's both. Because if you don't have

575
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Speaker 1: the good pass rush and if you're say, like you know,

576
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Speaker 1: you assume that the poor dbs can't cover, then you're

577
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: not going to be able to cover anyway, right right, Well,

578
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: if I help you out, if I get a big

579
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: sack and you know you were beat. When we get

580
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Speaker 1: to the sideline, just walk over some gatorade. Just walk

581
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Speaker 1: over some gatorade, and vice versa. If I'll get my

582
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: ass kicked to the line of scrimmage and I'm not

583
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Speaker 1: anywhere close to that quarterback and you pull a Tremaine

584
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Speaker 1: Johnson to pick one off in the end zone, I'm

585
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: bringing you Gatoray. Okay, you thank you so much. Yeah, exactly,

586
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: your teammates. It works hand in hand. So you know what,

587
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about one of these guys on the D line,

588
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. It's kind of funny that we've probably gone

589
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: with almost a half hour into this and we've not

590
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: really mentioned I know. It's like I mentioned him to

591
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Speaker 1: Fisher in the press conference after the game, and Fisher

592
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: is kind of like, it's like, yeah, he's been playing

593
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Speaker 1: an elite level for a couple of years. No, nothing

594
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: changes with that. I don't talk about him anymore. It's boring.

595
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: But he's the defensive player of the week in the NFC.

596
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: It's not boring to me. No, he's gotten to watch.

597
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: It's fun to watch, but it's boring to talk about.

598
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: How is this boring to you? You're a defensive tackle.

599
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, I'm getting all high boy, Aaron Donald get

600
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: the sack. Yeah, Aaron Donald and other tackles for loss. Yeah,

601
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: that's normal. It is normal, but it's not normal. It's normal,

602
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: but it's abnormal because he's him. And like the play

603
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: where he got he and Eugene split the second. Yeah,

604
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: do you notice Eugene playing defensive tackle? I did. That

605
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: was very cool. Yeah. Um. They used to do this thing,

606
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: they called it NASCAR when they had all defensive ends.

607
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: This is before Donald and he would slide inside. Yeah. Yeah,

608
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: that's that's why he's still here. That's why he's so valuable.

609
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: He's so versatile. But yeah, those two guys and Quinn

610
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: on the outside, and when William Hayes is healthy, you

611
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: got problems, yes, issue, you know what? You you still

612
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: have problems because Matt Longacre on the play I'm talking about,

613
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: so he's coming he I'm sorry, never mind, what go

614
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: ahead anyway, Matt Longacre. No, well, Matt long because what

615
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I want to say is Matt Longacre's crashing in on

616
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Speaker 1: the outside. He goes to the B gap, so does

617
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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn. He goes to the B gap and then

618
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: you've got your two guys who are at defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: They loop around and it's Sims and it's Donald and

620
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Speaker 1: they meet at the quarterback and it's beautiful, beautiful, good word. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Who is the hottest girl in your opinion? Margot Robbie,

622
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Speaker 1: Just hot, right, Margot Robbie. Okay, there's nothing more beautiful

623
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Speaker 1: when than when that stunt comes open. I'm sorry. That

624
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Speaker 1: is my idea of gorgeous. When I think of hot

625
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: and gorgeous, I think of that. I'm serious. When when

626
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: you're an inside guy and you're coming around, oh yeah,

627
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: and that tackle is still on the end and it's

628
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: just you and the quarterback and you're on a dead run,

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Speaker 1: that's gorgeous. Yeah, yeah, I'm sureything else comes second. Everything

630
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: else in this life comes second. Yeah. Good food, hot

631
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Speaker 1: women come second to that telling you birth of your

632
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: children second? Oh my god, yes, oh my god. If

633
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: I can pick come on now, wedding, what's your wife

634
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: gonna say, dude, I'm getting the sack? Come on, man,

635
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's all fair. Wow, one's harder to get.

636
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: You don't have to say which one. You don't have

637
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: to say which one's fine? No, but also, you know

638
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: we're talking about defensive tackles right now. Dominique Easily, can

639
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: we give him a shout out because he's played well.

640
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: I think he's been great as the how do you

641
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: say that, the rotational guy, the rotational guy, the co

642
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: star to the Aaron Donald Show, because when Donald goes out,

643
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: you still have to deal with somebody who's quick. Yeah. Yeah,

644
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: and you can see that he's really really fast off

645
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: the ball. Oh yeah, and that's just it's almost Aaron

646
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: Donald like quickness. Yeah, and I mean that in the

647
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: best way possible. That's a really high compliment. For two

648
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: years a row, they've hit on that guy. Yeah, Nick

649
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: Fairly was tremendous and now Easily doing a great job.

650
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: So that's two ears. Yeah, yeah, to prove it. Guys.

651
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: I like that it is. I like it too. And

652
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, Dominique Easley, he's had all these injury troubles

653
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: in the past, and I think part of what is

654
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: good right now is that he doesn't have to go

655
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: in every single play. You know, they're keeping his reps limited,

656
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: they're kind of keeping him on pitch count, and so

657
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: that keeps him fresh. But also even when he plays

658
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: limited snaps. It keeps Aaron Donald fresh. Right. So this

659
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: rotation thing that the Rams have got going on their

660
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: defensive line, it's really really work drop off and everyone

661
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: understands their roles, from the starters to the backups. I

662
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: think they have a great group. They absolutely do. So

663
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: let's kind of stick here for a second as we

664
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: too turn it to the Buffalo Bills, who are two

665
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: and two. Um. Do you remember a couple of years

666
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: ago when Aaron Donald won the Defensive Rookie of the Year. Yes,

667
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: And there was another guy on the Jets, Sheldon Richardson,

668
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: who was a contender for this. Yes. Do you remember

669
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: what Rex Ryan said, who I do? Yeah, something to

670
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: the effect of the amount of sacks, something about he

671
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: couldn't hold his job. That's exactly what he said, something

672
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: about that. Are you said Aaron Donald could not hold

673
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: He was, yes. And so you know, we talked to

674
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan on the conference call today and he said, basically,

675
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: of all the things I've said, I've said some dumb things,

676
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: that was one of the dumbest. He really said that.

677
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: He really said that, I promise you, Yeah, that's high praise.

678
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: It is high praise. Yeah, Bill, And he said defensive

679
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: player of the week. When you get Rex Ryan to

680
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: eat his words and say like that was the dumbest.

681
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: Now in the dumb things he said, absolute dumbest, but

682
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: he said it is one of the dogs. No, no,

683
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: because I mean, duh, yeah. Yeah, Let's let's be clear. Well,

684
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: every coach wants there got to be in the Pro Bowl.

685
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: But I mean, well, no, it wasn't the Pro Bowl.

686
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: It was off excuse me, defensive Well, I think we

687
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: know who the better player is. I mean, point yes,

688
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson is a really good football player, and I

689
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: don't want to make it sound like I'm not saying that,

690
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: and you'd love to have him on your football team.

691
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: But Aaron Donald is playing a different game than everyone

692
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: else right now. Yes he is. Yeah, And that's part

693
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: of the issue that I think Rex Ryan finally realized

694
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: and realized the era of his ways. So that's this

695
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: one kind of storyline that is out there for this week.

696
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because there is a Pro Football Talk

697
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: article that said that according to sources and whoever they are,

698
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: or a person close to the situation with Donald, so

699
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: that Donald remembers what Rex Ryan said a couple of

700
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: years ago, I bet I bet he does too. I

701
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: don't think he forgets anything. I don't think yeah fills

702
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I'm like, oh man, Rex, why I know,

703
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: guys pretend like that stuff doesn't bother him, like I

704
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: love him. People when they say I don't read the

705
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: paper or I don't go on the internet, Guys, everybody

706
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: reads the paper. Everybody goes. The only person I believe

707
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: this with and this is like really out there, and

708
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is kind of a topic. It's

709
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. I don't think he actually does. He's got to.

710
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: He's a compet You think he does. Hey, Yeah, I

711
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: mean in some way he's going to hear about it

712
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: and know about it and process it. Maybe. I mean

713
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna hear about it. But I don't think he's

714
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: going to go off and read it himself. That's what

715
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Especially when you think the guy is wrong. Yeah. Yeah,

716
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: the one guy that Tom Brady is great at this

717
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: When he says I'm not listening by the way he's playing,

718
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: of course he is. Yeah, tom Brady's listening. He can't

719
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: do this, he can't do that. Or Tim Tebow's the

720
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: air apparent and he just absolutely better. Yeah, oh I

721
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: don't care about that stuff. Well, the way you play,

722
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: it's obviously you're lion. Yeah yeah, so everybody has that

723
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: in him. But I think Aaron Donald, even without this

724
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: extra motivation, is still going to line up and try

725
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: to kick your ass. Oh, no question. That's just every

726
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: single every single day, every single week. That's all he does, right,

727
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: It's all he eats. He breaths, he breathes, he sleeps football. Yeah. Um,

728
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: way back when I was playing, um, Brian Young from

729
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers was so good. Yeah,

730
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: and he was so dominant, physically dominant like Aaron Donald,

731
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: and he would do it without getting upset. Yeah. He

732
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't really play with an edge. He just played hard

733
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: and he was that good. Well, we would tell the

734
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: old line, don't make him mad, because the same like

735
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: way back with Reggie Wright, Reggie White, God rest his

736
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: soul in the whole thing. Yeah, Reggie would. He was

737
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: so big and so dominant he could dominate you without

738
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: getting upset. If you make him mad, it's only going

739
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: to be worse. I think Aaron Donald is the same way. Yeah,

740
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: just play just play straight up with him, help him up,

741
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: be as nice as you can to him, you're still

742
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: gonna give up sacks. Yeah, but if you make him mad,

743
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, he may hurt somebody. Yeah, I'm looking

744
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: for this. I'm sure you can see me, like looking

745
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: on my laptop. The guy that Rex Ryan today compared

746
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald too, was John Randall. Same thing now he played.

747
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say in a rage, but I mean he

748
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: was a little crazy when he played. I mean a

749
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: little psycho when he played, and it was cool. That

750
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: was his thing though. Um, I like when you talk

751
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: about the guys who were psycho when they play, I mean,

752
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: would be this guy used to study press guides to

753
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: find out your mom's name and would shout aday what

754
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: John Randall was so rude, He's a little loopy. Did

755
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: you ever do that? What? Like study like? What was

756
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: what was your approach to talking trash. I'm not gonna

757
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: talk about your mom. I'm not gonna talk about your wife.

758
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go about my business of beating you. Okay,

759
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: that's it now. If you want to take it there,

760
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: I'm more than willing to get getting the gutter with you. Sure,

761
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: So whatever type of game you want to play, I

762
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: am game, and I'm always gonna win. That's the way

763
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: I thought. Really, that's the way I thought. I believe it. Yeah,

764
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, but Randall was different. I mean, he

765
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: was a dark skinned guy and he would wear a

766
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: lot of eye black and it just made him look medieval.

767
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: And that's the way he played. Um he would scream

768
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: at guys, I am lord humongus, No way, I'm dead serious,

769
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: So I shouldn't laugh at that. But John Randall's gonna

770
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: come and kick my flat. But he's in the Hall

771
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: of Fame and he's a six foot six foot one

772
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: defensive tackle like Aaron Donald. Yeah, they play a similar game.

773
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: I get that. Do you when you look at the

774
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: Bills this week as we sort of, I guess bring

775
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: it back to what we probably should be talking about.

776
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: So when you look at them, do you kind of

777
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: see this like a lot of similar things from the Rams.

778
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: I mean to me, they seem like they're trying to

779
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: be built in the same way, not necessarily with the

780
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: same schemes, but the same philosophy. Yes, yeah, good defense, right.

781
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: The only difference is Tyrod Taylor and Lashaw McCoy. But yeah,

782
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: that's the only difference in what you see. Um, they're dynamic. Man,

783
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: McCoy can make you miss in a blank. Gosh. You know,

784
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: it's funny you think about McCoy and you think, oh man,

785
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: he's been playing for such a long time. He's only

786
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Yeah he's years left. Yes he does. And

787
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like he's slowing down. No. Yeah, he's

788
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: still quick and Tyrod Taylor based on their run game,

789
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: he's always going to be a part of it, which

790
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: gives the defense fits. And when he's throwing the football,

791
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: if it's not there, he can run it, yes, I

792
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: mean and run for distance he can't. Yeah, he's he's

793
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: a nightmare. This is gonna be a tough matchup. It is. Yeah,

794
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: looking at it, it's not like they've been too many differences.

795
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: I don't think between what they were doing under Greg

796
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: Rumman and what they're now doing under Anthony Land. They

797
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: made the change an offensive coordinator after two games. People

798
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: were making the joke, oh man, the Rex Ryan got

799
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: so mad at his defense he fired his offensive coordinator.

800
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: But I mean they're playing better now, so I guess

801
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: jokes on everybody else, right, Yeah, it's it's you know,

802
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: I just watched them versus New England and their first

803
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen plays. It looked like something out of nineteen eighties.

804
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: Notre name really, I mean it's it's a wide right

805
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: remember name? Yeah, I just made that. I'm young millennials,

806
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: but just multiple ways of rushing the footage. Yes, yeah,

807
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: you rarely see that in the NFL. So, um, there's

808
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot to prepare for. If you're Greg Williams.

809
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're gonna have to talk about every

810
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: single play they ran. Now they may not run it,

811
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to go over it just to

812
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: make sure your guys know how to defend it, all right,

813
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: because they can do it from three different form, three

814
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: different sets. Right. They can go from shotgun, they can

815
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: go pistol, and they can get under center too. Yeah,

816
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: and so that's what makes them really dangerous. I think

817
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: they've got all these different kinds of running waste excuse

818
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: me running that they've got all these different ways to run.

819
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: Did you just reboot yourself? I did? Yeah, I needed

820
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: to just take a police figure out what I was

821
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: trying to say. I don't know who that is. Max Headroom. God,

822
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: you're a millennial. Go ahead, they have a lot of

823
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: different ways to research Max headroom. You'll see what I'm

824
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: talking about later on. And then you want to punch me,

825
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I would not want to punch you. Yes,

826
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: you do, anybody know because I would lose that fight.

827
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: Anybody who was watching this right now can see there

828
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: is no I wouldn't want to punch you. I would

829
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: let you hit me, and then what would happen? Nothing?

830
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: Get it out, miles, go ahead, I'm your friend. No,

831
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: but seriously, I mean, twelve personnel, two tights. They can

832
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: even slip in a fullback on you. I mean, there's

833
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: just a lot to talk about when facing this offense,

834
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: and I think that is their weapon, right, Yes, and

835
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: then you have two guys that are just, you know,

836
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: phenomenal they are on the ground. So that's why the

837
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: run game is so potent. Well, I think one of

838
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: the things that Tyrod Taylor may not get enough credit

839
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: for is his ability to throw the deep ball too,

840
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: because he was one of the best, if not the best.

841
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember off top of my head, and I

842
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: should probably have written this down. Oops, sorry guess, but

843
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the fans. Where do you where do

844
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: you keep going anyway, Go ahead, go ahead? Tyrod Taylor

845
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: into the deep ball really good atall? Yes, he is? There,

846
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: we go. That's the point. I was thinking, what a

847
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: treat for him, finally going to Gillette and being the

848
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: best quarterback on the field, and he was, and you

849
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: got the win and shut him out. Well, when you

850
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: don't have the goat on the other sideline, that helps

851
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot. He looked different than anytime I've ever seen

852
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: him at Gillette. You think so because Brady's not on

853
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: the other side putting a ton of pressure on him.

854
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: All right, so if you all right, let let's take

855
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: this to you. So if you know that there's a

856
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: backup offensive guard in that day, are you really licking

857
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: your chops? H Yeah? I mean if the starters out,

858
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: of course, I'm going to be happy. But I'm just

859
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: thinking from a quarterback perspective. Sure, think about Tyrod Taylor,

860
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: Like on this drive, if I don't get points, I

861
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: know he's going to Okay, Yeah, if I don't take

862
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: advantage of this red zone opportunity, if we get three,

863
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: he's going to get seven. Right, Well, that pressure is

864
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: gone because it's suspended. He looked like a different guy.

865
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: He did. Yeah, and no, I think you're right, and

866
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why they won

867
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: and they were able to win in a shutout, right

868
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: because their defense is really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

869
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: think people can kind of underrate their defense. And we

870
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: know that Rex Ryan is aggressive and he's going to

871
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: have this aggressive defense. He's got his brother Rob now too,

872
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: so like, two Ryan brains are probably better than one.

873
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: And they come after your quarterbacks. Yeah, they do, and

874
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: they do a good job of it. Multiple they're big upfront,

875
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of speed, and they're physical and

876
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: they part of their game plan is getting the ball. Yes, takeaway,

877
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yeah. They also got five takeaways against Arizona,

878
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: which you think about that ten ten turnovers for Arizona

879
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: in two weeks. Yeah, that's a lot of turnovers. Yeah,

880
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: which is an Arizona issue and we don't even talk

881
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: about that, but I think it speaks to how good

882
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: the Bill's defense is playing. That's why when we go

883
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: out to practice and we stand there and talk football,

884
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: the one thing we want to see is the Rams

885
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: ripping at the football. Yet. Yeah, to be emphasized, Yes,

886
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: you have to practice it on defense and you have

887
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: to get your guys ready for what you're going to

888
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: see on game day. Yeah, you know, yards after catch.

889
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: Everybody wants it, everybody wants to score. But number one,

890
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: your number one priority this week, especially against this defense,

891
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: is ball secure Absolutely, Yeah, secure catch, secure, run when

892
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: you're in traffic, secure that ball because they were coming

893
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: after it. Well, the other thing they're gonna do, they're

894
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna show a lot of different looks, and that's another

895
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: staple of a Rex Ryan defense. He's gonna go out

896
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: there and he's gonna be multiple and he's gonna try

897
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: to show you something you haven't seen before. So and

898
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: especially because they're an unfamiliar opponent, right, you know, last

899
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: time Rams faced the Bills was what five years ago? Yes?

900
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, because they're in the AFC, right,

901
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: So it's tough because you are not going against these

902
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: guys every year, right, or you're not either not even

903
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: in you don't even conference. The only guy you probably

904
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: know is Richie Incognito. Yeah, yeah, I mean everybody knows Richie.

905
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't see them. They're not a familiar opponent.

906
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: There's good and bad. You don't know them, but they

907
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: don't know you exactly. Yeah, So this is gonna be

908
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: I think a game of big plays, Yes, probably. And

909
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: the other thing that they've got going for them this

910
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: week is Marshall Darius, their big defensive tackle coming off

911
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: of his four game suspension, and I think it makes

912
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: it even tougher when you don't know the opponent and

913
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: you don't have the film with that guy from this year,

914
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: and then he's coming in and you're like, oh, this

915
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: is another added dimension that you're just going to have

916
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: to make the adjustment for in the game. Right, That's

917
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 1: gonna be something to say, Okay, how if they show

918
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: their hand a little bit, how do you respond to that?

919
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: How do you make the adjustment to what he's doing

920
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: on the field. Can't run that play to Darius? Right, Yeah,

921
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: you don't know until you try versus Arizona, where you

922
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: know what you can it can't run towards Claius Campe exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

923
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: So those are the things that I don't know we're

924
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: going to see more of throughout this week. So what

925
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: are some of the things that you would like to

926
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: see the Rams do better against the Bills? Oh? Penalties, man, Yeah,

927
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: we talked about Greg Robinson. I hate penalties. I hate

928
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: when big plays get called back, and I hate it.

929
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: Seems to be like the same guy, but all of

930
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: his penalties usually come from being overaggressive. That I can

931
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: live with, Okay, Yeah, but you've got to clean up

932
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: those penalties. Um catching the football huge, Yeah, Yeah, the

933
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: ball is coming to you. This is the pros and

934
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: you win by either position or personnel group or just

935
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: to play beat their play. When you get the football,

936
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: you've got to catch it. You gotta keep those chains moving.

937
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: And special teams, i'd like to see, you know, something

938
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: big out of specially you got the return with Tavon

939
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 1: he did let's put that one in the end zone. Yeah,

940
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: it's it's about time for one of those to go

941
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: back if that's if you get the opportunity. Though, and

942
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: the fisher in Fossil both talked about this this week.

943
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get many opportunities, and because of the

944
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: premium that Buffalo can put on special teams, yeah, they

945
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: probably aren't going to give table on many opportunities. You're

946
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna get some like Barry Bonds when he was chasing

947
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: the record. Yeah, he was getting one pitch to hit,

948
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: one good pitch, one good pitch that wound up wet. Yeah,

949
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: he was ready for it. So with this defense, the

950
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: way they play, at some point you're gonna have them

951
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: backed up on a three and out and they got

952
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to to Tavon. And then when you

953
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: get those opportunities, make them pay exactly. And I think

954
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: we've seen them do that and work well in tandem.

955
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: You know. I we kind of ran through this and

956
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring it up. But the way they

957
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: worked out when they they had that punt return, you

958
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: know that the play before was a sack we were

959
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: talking about with Eugene Sims and Aaron Donald. So first

960
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 1: you get the sack, great, it backs them up even further.

961
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: Then you get the punt return. Great. Special teams is contributing,

962
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: and then the offense comes through finish and they finish

963
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: and they get the touchdown. Right remember it last year

964
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: Week sixteen in Seattle. Yes, they got they basically did

965
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: the same thing. Yes, they got the big They got

966
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: a sack. I think it was wool Hayes and it

967
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: might have been a keem Airs who had split the

968
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: sack on that play. Then you get a big punt

969
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: return from Tabon Austin. That puts you at the twenty

970
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: eight yardline and then Keenham to Kenny Britt boom one

971
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: play play action touchdown. Right. These are like if the

972
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: Rams can do that? Boy, you your three units are

973
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: working in tandem like that. That's how you win games.

974
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: That's that's that's how playoff teams get to the playoff

975
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, I mean, it could be a return,

976
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: it could be a block. Yeah, I mean, because that's

977
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: what Fossils talked about too. They want to block it up.

978
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: When you're backed up as a punt team, you've got

979
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: two things to worry about. One, if they do get

980
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: their hands on it, you're in the end zone, close

981
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, you're giving up six points. Yeah. Second

982
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: is um if they are going for the block, I've

983
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: got to get this thing out fast, which means I

984
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: can't directional punt right, which puts Tavon Austin back in

985
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: the mix. Exactly. Yeah. So there's there's starts with defense,

986
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: then special teams, and if you can't score there, you

987
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: know your offense is set up in great field position

988
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: to get a touchdown. Yes, yeah, perfect, All right, So

989
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: these are something I want to do, I know, so

990
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: you're on Twitter, but you don't use it because I'm

991
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: a millennial. I want to give my address out too social.

992
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 1: Why are you telling my personal biz? Because you said

993
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: this the last time you were on the podcast a

994
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: week ago. I bring it up because I'm gonna I'm

995
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: going I use that as a segue go ahead to

996
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: talk about picking shots. But go ahead. I kind of

997
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: was the fact that we're going to take a couple

998
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: of Twitter questions. If I do not want to take

999
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Twitter questions to Mado, we're taking Twitter questions, so we're

1000
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: gonna do ahead. This is from at j l R

1001
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: zero eight two five. J l R zero eight two five.

1002
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: Is that a person or a droid? What is that?

1003
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: Is that a Star Wars droid or something? Okay, use

1004
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: use a name JR. Whatever, And you know the problem,

1005
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: the problem, mister j l R zero eight two five

1006
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: is that you don't have a name with your handle.

1007
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: So that's what I had to use a right, Okay,

1008
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: So here's just his question, he says, and it's actually

1009
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: a statement then with a question mark, which is you know,

1010
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: kind of offends me as a linguist. But the RAMS

1011
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: should run the read option more with case to get

1012
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: the running game going. Do you agree? Um? I like

1013
00:46:54,760 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: the it keeps the defense off balance. Um, that might

1014
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: not be something you game plan for case Keenum keeping it, yeah,

1015
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: you know, Um, but maybe there are free yards there.

1016
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: They used it a little bit against Arizona. Use a

1017
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: couple at the times. Use it. Yes, I think you

1018
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: should judiciously. Yes, here's the problem. Now, your quarterback's carrying

1019
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: the football in the open field. Yes, Um, I'm not

1020
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: worried about the quick hitter three yards and down. What

1021
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: if he actually breaks into the open field and becomes

1022
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: a runner? Right, that's what makes me nervous. Well, yes,

1023
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: and you know we saw last week Case Keenum is

1024
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: a little reckless. Fisher said this, He's reckless, but he's okay.

1025
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: Even with Cam Newton and your quarterback is in the

1026
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: open I get nervous. I get nervous too, even as

1027
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: big ast Cam Newton is. There are free yards there

1028
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're really going to honor that

1029
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: right now? Maybe not? All right, So here's the next one,

1030
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: and this is from Jay underscore it, drow Okay and

1031
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Haskill. They essentially had the same question. So I'm

1032
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: going to paraphrase it. Okay, but and we kind of

1033
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: addressed a little bit earlier. But with Rams hitting more

1034
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: passes down the field, will teams start respecting the past

1035
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: enough to open up some run lanes for Todd Gurley?

1036
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: I still think you're improve it mode. I agree, Yeah,

1037
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: I still think you're improve it mode. I think somebody

1038
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: could start with a game plan, as in, We're going

1039
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: to load the box stop Tid Gurley maybe against Buffalo

1040
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: and hit a couple of plays that get behind them.

1041
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: They may change up, you know, mid games. Sure, they

1042
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: may make an adjustment. Ye. So okay, I think that

1043
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: time is coming if you keep hitting plays. But as

1044
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: of right now, I still think the game plan is

1045
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: stop thirty first. I think so too, And I think

1046
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: that's because of the way that we have seen thirty

1047
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Speaker 1: make place. Yeah, and even though thirty has not been

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00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: having the run lanes open, I mean, there have been

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00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: some stats done around this week that are like not

1050
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: very good, yeah, and they're kind of ugly. And I

1051
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: think it's a combination of a lot of things that

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00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: have been happening, especially you know, when you have the

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00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals and you go to Arizona last year and then

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00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: Gurley runs for one hundred and forty four yards in

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00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: two in the fourth quarter. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's

1056
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: they're not going to let you run the foe. No,

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00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: but I would say this, Um, he has to find

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00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: a way to get through there because and I think

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00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: he will. Adrian Peterson have seen eight man boxes since

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00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: high school, probably like nine ten. Still, I mean, all

1061
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: good backs will see eight nine men in the box.

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00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: As a running back, you're gonna have to find a

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00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: way through there anyway. Yes, you just can't depend on

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00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: your quarterback stretching the defense, right. You have to get

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00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: through there. It's hard, it's impossible. It's an impossible ask

1066
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: to beat two guys, break a tackle, make a guy miss,

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00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: and then get going. Yeah that's hard. Yes, it's hard,

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00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: but that's your job right now. It is, And I

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00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: think that as we continue to go through this season,

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00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, look at it this way. The rams

1071
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: are three and one and Todd Gurley is not look

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00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: like the Todd Gurley we knew from last year running

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00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: the football. No, but he's still getting carrious. He is

1074
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: getting carried and that's important. Yeah, he's still getting carrious.

1075
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: You're still controlling the clocks, so to speak. And you

1076
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: haven't gone away from you know, your game plan, so

1077
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: that that's a positive that stuff is going to start

1078
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: to happen. I think it's going to start to crack

1079
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: at some point. Yeah, And I don't know if it's

1080
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: this week, if it's next week, or whenever it will be.

1081
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: But it's just Todd Gurley's too good of a player, right,

1082
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: He's he's gonna get his eventual Yes, anything else off

1083
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: the Twitter machine? Um? No, not that's it. Those were

1084
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: the two. Yeah, okay, good. I don't see. Here's the thing.

1085
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't really like necessarily taking Twitter questions unless I

1086
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: know that they're good. So those I thought were decent questions. Questions, Okay,

1087
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: we had some good jumping off points. Were good? You

1088
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: saying I'm a linguist. I'm still stuck on that. I'm sorry,

1089
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm a linguist. I shouldn't have said linguists. Linguist was

1090
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: the wrong word. I should have said no, well kind of,

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00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: but not for that reason. No, It's like I do

1092
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: language for a living, So if you're going to ask

1093
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: you a question like you shouldn't you shouldn't make it

1094
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: a good question. So, well, some people just aren't his

1095
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: educated Miles. That's not Bobby as you don't look down

1096
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: on people, down on people. Yes, I'm not saying that

1097
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm better than anybody else. I'm just saying no, no, no, no, no, no,

1098
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm alist by saying I'm a linguist. What is that

1099
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: been playing? I Well, first of all, I used the

1100
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: wrong word. Okay, So like that was the stupid thing

1101
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: for me to do. Okay, like that made me sound

1102
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: like a like a jerk. That totally you made me

1103
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: sound like a butthole. Oh no, it did. Like I

1104
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: could admit that I shot towards me. You know, my

1105
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: PAC ten education. You'd like to point out, see, yeah,

1106
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: that you're dating yourself because it was I'm Pac twelve.

1107
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: I hate you. I hate you right now. That's all right?

1108
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: So I got one more thing. So, since the Rams

1109
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: are playing Buffalo, Buffalo is a very cold place. We

1110
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: don't live in a cold place anymore. Yes, where does

1111
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: the coldest game you ever played? Oh? God, Chicago? Oh yeah, Chicago.

1112
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: KI was ninety seven or ninety eight? And um man,

1113
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: I am I'm a dune buggy like I am not

1114
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: a snowblowd I do not like the cold. Yeah. Yeah,

1115
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: you want to have a good day running the football,

1116
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: play the marco in the cold. Yeah, I don't want

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00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: to touch anybody, and my fingers are cold. And yeah

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00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't mind the cold. Yeah really, I really don't.

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00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm from Cleveland, like I grew up, and it was cold.

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Speaker 1: Apparently it was like twenty two below the first winter

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00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: I was alive, twenty two below. Yeah, and my mom

1122
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: would not Maybe this wasn't the first year I was alive,

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00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: but like my mom r the to the to the area. Wow. Wow.

1124
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: Like my grandparents were visiting the house, and my mom

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00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: always tells us stair. She says that she would not

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00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: let us downstairs because it was cold. Yeah, it was that. Okay,

1127
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: we had to stay upstairs where the heat was most effective.

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00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Makes sense. But we were in Chicago and it was cold,

1129
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: and you know, you have to get through it and play. Yeah. Um,

1130
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: but I remember the p announcer announcing to the Chicago

1131
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: Bear crowd that the temperature is now eight degrees below zero.

1132
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: And they went nuts. Of course they did. They went

1133
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: nuts and took off shirts. No, yeah, they were taking

1134
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: off shirts, you know. Yeah, it's it's this is us,

1135
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: this is Chicago weather. We love this, and really we

1136
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: started to wilt for a minute. Yeah, we won the game,

1137
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: but I'm like, good god, it's cold out here. Yeah, yeah,

1138
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound very pleasant. No, it sucked. I wore

1139
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: like a great T shirt under my path and I

1140
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: never wear a shirt under my path, but it's cold,

1141
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: I have to and it's gray so when it gets

1142
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: wet you can see it. And I was completely dry,

1143
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: that's all cold it was. Oh man, yeah it was cold.

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00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: It was cold. Yeah, really cold. That's the hottest game

1145
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: ever play Arizona nineteen ninety five or six were there

1146
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: at sun Devil Stadium, Sun Devil Stadium, and it said

1147
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: right outside the visitor's locker room there was a sign

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00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 1: that says warning temperatures at midfield can exceed one hundred

1149
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: and fourteen degrees. And then you got to walk from there.

1150
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 1: This is, I guess before renovations, about a quarter mile

1151
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: maybe just a little bit less from your locker room

1152
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: to the field. So you're walking through the heat, of course,

1153
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: thinking about the heat. Yeah, and then you get out

1154
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: there and it's just as hoide as your thought. Yeah.

1155
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: And in our infinite wisdom, we brought three defensive tackles

1156
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: to Arizona. Oh my god. And we went to overtime.

1157
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, yeah. We didn't take off after that

1158
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: game for like three hours because everybody was on IV.

1159
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah it was bad. No, we lost. We

1160
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: lost in overtime. Yeah, we lost in overtime. He said,

1161
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: you went to overtime that you won. Leshn Johnson was

1162
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: the tailback fast guy. Okay, yeah, real fast. Found out

1163
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: he was legally blind. I think. Wow. Yeah, that's why

1164
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: he hit the whole so hard because he Yeah, I

1165
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: don't know what to be scared of if you can't

1166
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: see it, right, right, that's always pretty good. All right,

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Speaker 1: So thank you everybody for tuning into Between the Horns

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00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: this week. Um DeMarco, you are on RAMS all Access tomorrow,

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00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: right tomorrow. Yes, we're gonna be on from seven to eight,

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Speaker 1: seven ten, so we'll do more of this with smarter people. Excellent. Yeah,

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00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: you know what I was just gonna say, excellent, And

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00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: then he halted me on my own podcast when I'm

1173
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: saying goodbye, it's good stuff. Wow. If it weren't you,

1174
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: I would probably be more offended at or I would

1175
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: probably be offended at all. Anyway. Any guys, thank you

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00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: so much for tuning into this edition of Between the Horns.

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00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: Thank you, Defar I guess. Thank you Matt, my producer today.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Matt, and be sure to subscribe on iTunes

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00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: or SoundCloud. If you like what you hear, let us

1180
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: know please. We always appreciate the good review so again,

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00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: thank you for listening and watching. Wherever you may be

1182
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Speaker 1: in football, We will see you next week