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Speaker 1: presented by Microsoft Surface. Chargers win thirty four, twenty eight

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Speaker 1: against the New York Jets alongside Haley Olwood and Haley.

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Speaker 1: This was I think less about the win beinging a

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Speaker 1: team that's now only ten and more about the future

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Speaker 1: of this franchise With Justin Herbert under center throwing to

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen for the next several years. That combination was

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Speaker 1: on fire. Today it gets you excited as a Chargers fan.

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Speaker 1: It was absolutely on fire and from start to finish,

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Speaker 1: and I think one of the things that we've talked

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Speaker 1: has been in the second halves of games, where's Keenan

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Speaker 1: Allen or get Keenan Allen more involved? Because it's always

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Speaker 1: seems like, week after week after week, defenses have really

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Speaker 1: today and the records that he set today, what he

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Speaker 1: has continued to do week after week. We know what

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Speaker 1: he thinks of himself in regards to stacking up against

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Speaker 1: We're coming to you from so far stadium, of course,

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Speaker 1: mass are acquired. We're doing this post game right after

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Speaker 1: the game, and I keep going down this list of

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Speaker 1: achievements for Herbert. It's it's like a dictionary, right. Yeah. Today,

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns the fifth time this season, the most ever

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Speaker 1: just remarkable. And we talked about the connection with Keenan Allen,

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Speaker 1: at least the last game, and we saw that fifty

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Speaker 1: Herbert said. One really interesting thing I thought of after

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Speaker 1: It's all about winning and taking each week, each game,

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Speaker 1: that's what's most important, Haley. It did not start promising

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Speaker 1: this deja vu against yeah, an AFC East team back

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Speaker 1: It's like at a time of possession, Chargers dominated thirty

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Speaker 1: And it is pretty remarkable to only have one guy

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Speaker 1: But but what they have going right now is extremely special.

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