1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. You cracked me up. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: What did I do your breathless black Smoke bulletins? 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's a big story, John. I know you don't care, 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: but it's a big story. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: No. Two post. You had breaking news on the Black 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Smoke and then about a minute later, you know, in 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: case you didn't hear. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Well because people tune in and out and I wanted 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: to make sure that nobody missed it. Okay, I'm shocked 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: you actually were listening that carefully. 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: I always listen to your newscast when I'm driving in 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: here not so much, but welcome. It's John Cobelt Show, 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: can if I Am six forty live everywhere on the 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. We're on every day from one until four o'clock, 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: and then after four o'clock every day it's John Cobelt 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Show on demand. It's the podcast, same as the radio show, 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: but this is where you can listen to the segments 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: that you unfortunately tragically missed. We are going to open 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: with a big story here. Somebody we have discussed a 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: number of times in recent months. The former head of 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Homelessness Services Authority LASA. This is an 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: agency that if you track this news, well known billions 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 1: of dollars they taken from the county and the city. 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: There's extra taxes that were all paying in LA city 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: and county to fund this thing. And the county pulled 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: out of it, and Valicia Adams Kellum left her position 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: a short time ago. It got so bad that the 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: board of supervisors would not give her a speaking slot 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: at one of their meetings. She had to stand with 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: the regular audience, and then after about ninety seconds they 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: cut off her microphone. They didn't want to hear it anymore. 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's the federal judge ordered an audit. There's 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: a couple of billion dollars unaccounted for, and she had 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: given a two million dollar contract to her husband's homeless nonprofit. 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: So a big mess. And there's a lot more to this, 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: and we are going to put on Nick Gerda. Now. 38 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Nick Gerda is a watchdog correspondent at the public radio 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: station last he broke this story, brought these records to light. 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Let's get Nick Gerda on the line here, Nick, how 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: are you. I'm doing great? 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me. 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: On what a great story to tell us generally what 44 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: you found here. 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is some records we had to really 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: fight for in challenging LASA. They refused to release them 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 3: and spent weeks of me going back and forth and 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: pointing out the law to them, and we interviewed public 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: records attorneys who said that what they're doing is illegal 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: to withhold these records. We kept pushing and pushing, and 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: eventually we got redactive versions. And what these are is 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: whistleblower claims from two former high ranking officials there at LASA. 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: This was a high ranking IT and data official and 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: the chief financial officer who say that they were wrongfully 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: fired by Alisha Adams Callum for standing up to what 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: they described as a serious misconduct by her. A little 57 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: bit of background on Alicia. She was she's been supported 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: very much by Mayor Karen Bass in LA. Mayor Bass 59 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: originally directed LASSA to hire Velicia as a consultant on 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 3: her way to becoming the CEO over there, and we 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: had we broke a story a couple of months ago 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: about what you just mentioned of her signing a two 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: million dollar contract with her husband's employer and legal experts 64 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: tell us that that appears to be appears to have 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: been illegal under conflict of interest laws. Now, going back 66 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: to these whistleblower claims, what caught our attention was that 67 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: the LOSSA paid arranged for eight hundred thousand dollars to 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: be paid to these whistleblowers to settle these claims before 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: they became public lawsuits, essentially keeping it out of you know, 70 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: the witness testimony and documents, out of the public eye. 71 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: And that amount of money, eight hundred thousand dollars, it's 72 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: not a small amount. That settlement amount is equivalent went 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: to what it caught would cost to shelter as many 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: as forty unhoused people for a year. And so what 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: the public records attorney told us is the public has 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: a right to see what they were claiming in those documents. 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: It's clear settled law. And again we've been pushed, We 78 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: had been pushing repeatedly for lasses to release it. We 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: got copies and we published a story yesterday evening. It's 80 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: got an enormous response from from the public really across 81 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: the political spectrum and what these whistleblowers were alleging a 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: number of things. One of the alleged that Alicia Adams 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: Kellum pushed out experienced staff in order to hire unqualified 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: friends of hers who were sort of her inner circle 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: of subordinates at her previous job, and that you hired 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: them into these high level, high salary roles at LASA, 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: you know, really important roles overseeing services for very vulnerable people. 88 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: And how hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money 89 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: are being spent each year that's supposed to go towards 90 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: homeless services. What Another allegation is that one of these 91 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: folks that Alicia brought in was using their personal cell 92 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: phone for official communications in violation of agency policy, and 93 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: that LASA official repeatedly withheld accurate data about Mayor Bass's 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: signature homelessness program inside Safe because quote in the words 95 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: of this complaint, kel Adams Kellum did not want Mayor 96 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: Bass to look bad, and allegedly this employee was retaliated 97 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: against for us refusing to go along with hiding the 98 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: number of clients being served by that program. In addition 99 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: that an allegation that Adams Kellum asked loss of cop 100 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: It official to violate records retention laws by deleting two 101 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: official emails that had been sent to Adams Kellum's LASA 102 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: email account in order to protect the person who had 103 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: emailed Adams Kellum. So a whole host of allegations. I'll say, 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: you know, loss of leadership has been given sort of 105 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: a blanket denial of the allegations. But they paid eight 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars to prevent a lawsuit on this that 107 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: would have brought up a lot of public attention to 108 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: it and potential evidence to light. And and they, you know, 109 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: their own policy says that they need to refer for 110 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: investigation under Accounting Auditor investigation any allegations of misuse of resources. 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: There at LASA. 112 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: And according to LASA, there there was no investigation into 113 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: the whether these claims were accurate. And so you know, 114 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: here at LAS, we are very committed to bringing truth 115 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: to light about how you know, institutions that are spending 116 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: taxpayer dollars are going about it, and we're going to 117 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: continue to try to pursue the truth about whether there's 118 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: corroborating evidence and when what more is here potentially going 119 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: going on at LASA. 120 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: Right the charges you listed has to do with the 121 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: the hiring of certain people possible cover up of information 122 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: about inside safe phone, violations of phone use, violations of 123 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: record retention laws. But then you also had a couple 124 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: of instances of personal behavior on the part of add 125 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: which the whistleblowers had related. Can can he talk about 126 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: those two specific definitely? 127 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of those. One is an allegation 128 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: that Adams Callum engaged in quote, inappropriate and unethical behavior 129 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: at a conference in Washington, d C. Back in twenty 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: twenty three while she was the leader of LASA, And 131 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: by the ways, she's still there right now, but she 132 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: announced she'll be retiring or resigning as of August. But anyway, 133 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: so back to this conference allegation. The allegation is that 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: this behavior was reported to human resources, but that Adams 135 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: Kalum allegedly retaliated against the employee who reported that incident. 136 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: And what's interesting too, is is LASA redacted. They blacked 137 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: out a sentence or two in the middle of this allegation, 138 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: and I think that's quite likely that was giving some 139 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: information about the alleged behavior and they're refusing to release 140 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: it thus far. But a public records attorney tells us 141 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: it's unlawful for them to do that the public has 142 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: a right to see what's in there. So we're going 143 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: to keep well pushing for a transparency there. 144 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: And then especially it comes from a whistle blower who 145 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: they have paid off to shut up, so that that's 146 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: that's the key lines whatever they wedacted for that particular charge. 147 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: What the what the public record attorney told is and 148 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: this is David Loy of the First Amendment Coalition, who 149 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: was is a very prominent public records attorney and expert 150 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: in California, and what he's saying is when when government 151 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 3: agency in California pays out money to settle a legal 152 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: claim before it becomes a lawsuit, the public has a 153 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: right under the law, and the courts have been clear 154 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: the public has a right to see what the allegations were, 155 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: the full allegations, and to be able to evaluate whether 156 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: that was appropriate to pay out that amount of money 157 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: over the allegations. And so we're continuing to push push, 158 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: you know, for transparency on that. 159 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: And you had one more about Adams Kellen wanting to 160 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: spend public money on an open bar at a holiday party. 161 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: What was that about. 162 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's some twists here to this allegation. So 163 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: the allegation is that she wanted to spend public dollars 164 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: on an open bar at lasa's holiday party, and that 165 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: she got upset got angry when she was told that 166 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: that would be an improper use of taxpayer dollars and 167 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: create legal liability for Lassa and the city and maybe 168 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: even the county. And then and apparently after she got 169 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: set about that, she allegedly suggested that a vendor pay 170 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: for the alcohol, but then was told by staff that 171 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: would be a conflict of interest, and then she allegedly 172 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: got angry again. 173 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: This was a holiday party for for everybody on the 174 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: staff who attended. Huh this was that sounds like it. 175 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And in terms of conflict of interest, you know, 176 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: in California there's very pretty clear lag that people aren't 177 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: supposed to If you're a government official overseeing money going 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: to contractors, you're not supposed to be getting things of value, 179 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: you know, gifted to you from from the company. 180 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: It's quite a detailed article that goes on extensively from here. 181 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: I urge everybody to read it. It's at last dot 182 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: com and Nick Gerda is the writer, and the headline 183 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: is whistleblowers say that LA's top homeless official, hired unqualified 184 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: friends and tried to destroy public records. Nick, great work here. 185 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: This is the kind of work that this city and 186 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: county desperately needs and is rarely done. Thank you very 187 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: much for coming on. 188 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on. Really appreciate it. 189 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: All right, and I'm going to talk more obviously about 190 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: all this when we come back. 191 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 192 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: six forty. 193 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: Oh. We have a lot to cover with our opening 194 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: story today, and Tim Conway alerted me to this story 195 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: early this morning. I saw this and not only is 196 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: it big on its own, this confirms everything everything we've 197 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: been telling you about this entire corrupt, criminal homeless scheme, 198 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: this homeless industry, which is shaking billions of dollars of 199 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: tax mony out of you. Jess, you should all be ashamed, 200 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,359 Speaker 1: those of you who voted for the tax increase in November, 201 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: because the quartercent tax was going to expire soon, and 202 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: instead of having a zero percent tax for this homeless nonsense, 203 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: it's a half percent tax. And that may not sound 204 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: like much, a halfpenny on every dollar, it adds up 205 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: to billions, billions, and it's going to crooks. And let's 206 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: start with the top LASA official, Velicia Adams Kellum. We've 207 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: talked about her extensively. She's on our way out. She's 208 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: going to be done in August. The supervisors are fed 209 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: up with her. Billions of dollars have disappeared unaccounted for 210 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: after a judge, Federal Judge David Carter demanded an audit. 211 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Nobody can explain what happened to the money. Velicia Adams 212 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Kellum was on a trip to Boston when he demanded 213 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: that she come to the court house and explain herself. 214 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: Really arrogant and now and I got to give a 215 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: congratulations to Nick Gerda and again he's a watchdog correspondent 216 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: at the public radio station. Last Last La is t 217 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: who broke the story and found the records. And Vlicia 218 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: adams Kellum. This is that there are two whistleblowers and 219 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: they wrote letters making these claims, and LASA arranged for 220 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars of our money to shut them up. 221 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: That they and they're named here, These aren't anonymous. It's 222 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: a former chief Financial and Administrative officer, Christina Dixon, a 223 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: former IT and data official, Emily Vaughan Henry. They are 224 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: the whistle blowers, and they took eight hundred thousand dollars 225 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: not to not to pursue it into a lawsuit. Now, 226 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: much of this was covered up and Nick and his 227 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: they worked the legal angles to get it released because 228 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: by law, if you're paying eight hundred thousand dollars to 229 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: settle a whistleblower case, we have the right to know 230 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: that that's our money. So so this again, this this 231 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: tax money that you voted to increase in November. Here's 232 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: here's what happens to it. Okay, you got a couple 233 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: of internal whistleblowers telling the truth, and here's eight hundred 234 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to try to cover it up. And some 235 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: of the information is still covered up. 236 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 237 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: And here is the first thing that Adams Callum pushed 238 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: out experienced staff and a hired and hired unqualified friends 239 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: and former subordinates from her old job. Number one, What 240 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: do I have said about this? The entire homeless industry 241 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: is about stealing tax money, stealing donor money and then 242 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: spreading it around to friends and relatives by giving them 243 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: high paying positions. That is the primary reason these exist. 244 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: So no wonder. Two billion dollars disappears and nobody knows 245 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: where it went because they have zero interest in helping 246 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: the homeless, none whatsoever. They all real this was a 247 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,479 Speaker 1: scam magnet, and people have come out of the woodwork. 248 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: All the cockroaches have come out of the woodwork to 249 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: get a piece of the cheese. And there's a lot 250 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: of cheese here. And Adams Kellum was handing out chunks 251 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: of cheese to all her friends and former co workers, 252 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: so they got all enjoy life. And that's the beginning 253 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: and end of what this homeless industry is about. And 254 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: I think Judge David Carter has sniffed this out. Everybody 255 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: in city and county government knows this. They know this, 256 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: but they don't care. They act all pompous and sanctimonious 257 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: and accuse you of being heartless for not caring about 258 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: the homeless, and blah blah blah blah, and a majority 259 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: of you fall for it. I don't know what to say. 260 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's no secret as to why 261 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: there's so many con artists out there, so many Ponzi schemes. 262 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: There's no secret why so many people get ripped off 263 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: and lose their retirement savings, because it's easy to do. 264 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: You manipulate people with emotions. You start talking about all 265 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: these boor these fellow agelinos, your brothers and sisters in 266 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: the streets, and there's no fault of their own. They 267 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: have these terrible Yeah, it's a load of hooey and baloney, 268 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. That's just the first thing we come back. 269 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to go detailed into all the other charges, 270 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: and one of them is about something I knew was true. 271 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: Didn't have any proof, but I knew it inside Safe 272 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: all that those numbers are phony. One of the whistleblowers 273 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: got in trouble because she wouldn't withhold, she wouldn't cover 274 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: up the real numbers. They wanted the real numbers covered 275 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: up because the Insight Safe is a failure. Just use 276 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: your eyes. It's a failure. It's nonsense. It's public relations bs, 277 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: that's all it is. Karen Bass is a failure. She 278 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: could not run a convenience store that she has no business, 279 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: And most of the people in government and most of 280 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: the city council has no business running the city. They're 281 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: completely unqualified. They're flat out stupid. And you could see 282 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: with your own eyes, but this investigation has a lot 283 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: of proof in it. 284 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM. 285 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: Six forty moistline is eighty seven seven Moist staighty six 286 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: eight seven seven mois st eighty six talkback feature on 287 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. All right, We've got more to This 288 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: to me is one of the best stories I've seen 289 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: this year. This is Nick Gerda from Last which is 290 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: public Radio. They also have a website, LAist dot com, 291 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: and it's an extensive story. I'm just giving you a 292 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: couple of the highlights here, but this is everything I 293 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: suspected was going on because you just again use your eyes. 294 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: And it's about the top Los official LA Homeless Services 295 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: Authority of Alicia Adams Kellum, and she's finally getting finally 296 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: leaving in August. She's the one who can't explain where 297 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: two billion dollars is gone. She's the one who gave 298 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: her husband a two million dollar contract. He's involved with 299 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: a homeless agency, one of those nonprofits. But these are 300 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: two whistleblowers who worked for Adams Kellum and lost that 301 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: paid eight hundred thousand dollars to try to cover up 302 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: their claims they said they were wrongfully fired for speaking 303 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: up against Adams Kellum, speaking up against wrongdoing. So they 304 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: start they start complaining about what's going on at LASA, 305 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: and Adams Callum said, fine, you guys are fired, so 306 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: they file a complaint to shut them up. They were 307 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: given eight hundred thousand dollars. But we have a public 308 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: right to all the records. Doesn't matter what the agreement says. 309 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: So according to one of these let's see her name 310 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: is Emily Vaughan Henry. She says ALASA official repeatedly withheld 311 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: accurate data about Bass's inside Safe program. How many times 312 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: have you heard about that. Adams Kellum, who runs LASA, 313 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: did not want Mayor Bass to look bad, so ALASA 314 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: was withholding the day because the data was showing that 315 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: inside Safe was a failure. But again, if you used 316 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: your eyes, you knew that LAist had previously reported that 317 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: officials had withheld inside Safe reports from the la City Council. 318 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: So they were hiding it from the public, hiding it 319 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: from the media, although hardly anybody in the media was 320 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: looking for it, and they were hiding it from the 321 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: la City Council. Von Henry claimed that Adams Callum retaliated 322 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: against her for not being willing to hide the number 323 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: of clients being served by Inside Safe. In other words, 324 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: the number was probably far lower than the public claims. 325 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: And here was the proof in black and white. And 326 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: Adams Callum was going nuts here because it made her 327 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: look bad, and it made Karen Bass look bad. Bass 328 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: hired adams Kellum the way Bass hired Genie, who's the 329 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: disaster at the DWP, who's whose horrible performance helped cause 330 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: the palisades to burn. And then they were they were 331 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: they were trying. They were deleting emails. Remember Lake Bass 332 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: can't find a whole lot of emails. Well, Adams Kellum 333 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: has emails deleted. These are bad people, Bass, adams Kellum 334 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: ke bad people, said most of the city council. They're bad. 335 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: The cruks. Money's disappearing by the billions of dollars. They're 336 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: covering everything up. They're destroying emails, destroying documents, trying to 337 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: hide their failures. They all need to be getting rid 338 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: of they really do, because this is dangerous now right. 339 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: We lost thousands of homes, we had people killed, We 340 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: stopped the vagrants dying in the streets. I mean, this 341 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: is a matter of life and death. Now. Two more, here, 342 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: Adams Callum engaged in inappropriate and unethical behavior at a 343 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: conference in Washington, and Emily Vaughan Henry reported the behavior 344 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: to human resources. So Adams Callum retaliated against Emily Vaughan 345 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: Henry and the misbehavior was redacted by Losses attorneys, which 346 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: apparently is unlawful. According to a public records attorney that 347 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: last contacted says, she did something outrageous, inappropriate, and unethical. 348 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: The hell is that? And they covered it up. It 349 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: must be bad because they covered it up, and then 350 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: they retaliated against Emily Vaughan Henry for reporting it, and 351 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: then they redacted it from the loss of the report 352 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: the attorneys did. It's like, so what did she do? 353 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: One more? She wanted to spend public money on an 354 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: open bar. Your tax money, my tax money on an 355 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: open bar at Losses holiday party. And somebody at Losses says, well, 356 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: you can't do that. That's the public's tax money. You 357 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: can't spend it on booze. You can't spend it to 358 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: get drunk. Apparently, you know, as for everybody at the party. 359 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: So I guess she wanted an open bar, and she 360 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: wanted us to pay for it. Wonder if the drinking 361 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: had anything to do with the other incident they've covered up. 362 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: So then she said, oh, and that it would create 363 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: legal liability for loss in the county, in the city. Yes, 364 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: because people got drunk with taxpayer money that the city 365 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: and county spent. Then the city and county would get 366 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: sued if there was an accident or some kind of 367 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: deadly event. This had Kellum's is nuts. She then said 368 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: a vendor should pay for the booze, and she was 369 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: told that would be a conflict of interest. Adams Adams 370 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: Kellum got angry all over again. Do we have it? 371 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: We have a clip? Do we have a clip of 372 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: her speaking at the supervisors meeting, because I want people 373 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: to hear her voice. Okay, just to We'll play it 374 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: in a second so you'll remember this clip if you 375 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: listen to the show regularly. Felicia Adams Kellum. So she's 376 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: on her way out, and this is why the supervisors 377 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: are dissolving Larsa I said at the time they announced 378 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: that they were withdrawing their money. Is they must have 379 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: got a bad whiff of several stories. This is her 380 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: She she had been. They wouldn't let her speak at 381 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: the County Supervisor meeting, and so she she got in 382 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: line with the rest of the audience and eventually they 383 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: cut her off. Let's just play some of it. 384 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: I am the CEO LASA, and there's been a lot 385 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 5: of negative things said about LASA today. As was said 386 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 5: in the motion when it first released, it indicated that 387 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 5: much of the look back audits did not cover the 388 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 5: time of my leadership. But when I came on and 389 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 5: I met with each of you, I took on the 390 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 5: responsibility of the many years, twenty plus years. 391 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: Of seed at the idea. So she hired unqualified friends, 392 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: hired unqualified former subordinates withheld accurate data about Bass's inside 393 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: Safe failures. Retaliated against employees who acted as whistleblowers. She 394 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: wanted them to hide the number of inside Safe clients 395 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: engaged inappropriate unethical behavior at a conference, retaliated some more 396 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: against the whistleblowers and that story is still secret, And 397 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: then wanted to spend your tax money at an open 398 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: bar at lasa's holiday party. Wanted somebody to pay for 399 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: the booze, and she gave two million dollars to her 400 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: husband's nonprofit. This is the homeless industry. This is what 401 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: you agreed to double the homeless tax for. This is 402 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: where the billions of dollars have gone for this kind 403 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: of behavior, and two billions missing in Every criminal at 404 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: city Hall knows this is going on and doesn't care. 405 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: They don't care about the homeless, and they don't care 406 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: about your money. How long are you gonna put up 407 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: with it? 408 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 409 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: six forty. 410 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: We have somebody coming on at two o'clock. No, okay, good, 411 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: all right, then I will do the Ricrusa thing coming 412 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: up after two o'clock. Rick Caruso took the gloves off 413 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: and wrote a piece at his nonprofit website, steadfast La 414 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: dot com, and he let loose his opinion what's really 415 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: going on with Karen Bass and the recovery in the 416 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Palisades from the fire, because you know, he's running Steadfast LA, 417 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: trying to put together a public private partnership with lots 418 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: of major companies and major businessmen and a streamline speed 419 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: up dramatically of the process for rebuilding, and he's running into, uh, 420 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: the Bass brick wall. So we'll get to that coming up. 421 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: I just got a minute. I've been I've been dogged 422 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: for the last two days. Debborn knows I've got I've 423 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: got a cat. Turns out she's got a urinary tract 424 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: in things. 425 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: And didn't I say that that's what it was yesterday? 426 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: I should have been a vet. 427 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you should have been weren't here. 428 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if your love for animals well, but 429 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: I don't like blood well, and I don't want to 430 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: see organs. 431 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: She she my cat, athenis so a girl cat. One 432 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: of my sons left the cat behind, and I'm now 433 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: the primary caretaker. My wife's been out of town. I'm 434 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: the only one in the house this week, and the 435 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: cat picks this week to get a urinary tractor, and 436 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: uh I noticed a little blood droplets and little urine 437 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: urine puddles and uh I. Uh eventually got her to 438 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: the vet. Had to have somebody else take her in 439 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: because of of course, the emergency happens while I'm on 440 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: the air. Yesterday, I come home and there's there's that 441 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: pink a moxicillin medicine. Did you ever get that? Yeah? 442 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: And I've had to give it to dogs. Okay, I'm 443 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: supposed to. My wife has gotten the next five days. 444 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: I this is a five day prescription, isn't that perfect. 445 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: I've got to give the cat ten syringes filled with this. 446 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: This a moxicillin liquid. It's a thick milky yeah, I remember, 447 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: just a kid tastes terrible. How come they haven't in 448 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: all these years come up with something better, easier? 449 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: Why don't they have a pill that you can just 450 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 2: you know, brought in a piece of cheese or something. 451 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: Well, I remember when one of my dogs was sick 452 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: years ago. We put the pill inside some wet food. 453 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: And you know dogs, they gobble up everything in sight, right. 454 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: Well sometimes or they'll spit that out, they'll leave everything else. 455 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: But it worked with the pill. This I have to 456 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: chase the cat. I got a presser down holding her head, 457 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: and with my left hand and there was my right hand, 458 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: I got the syringe with all the pink milky goo 459 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: in it, and I've got to try to pry her 460 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: mouth open. And when she finally does open, just a crack. 461 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: I shoved the syringein and squirt it all in. She 462 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: starts gagging and spitting it out, and then squeals and 463 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: takes off. So the second time I had to do it, 464 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: she saw it coming and she started running and I'm 465 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: chasing the cat and diving onto the ground. You know, 466 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill myself doing this, which there was videos. 467 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: I know. I was thinking that, Well, I'm not coordinated. 468 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: I can't hold a cat down and press the syringe 469 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: accurately into her mouth. 470 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: You need to have a neighbor or a friend come 471 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: over and help you. So did any of it get 472 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: inside the cat? 473 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Most of the first time was like about one hundred percent. Okay, 474 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: second time probably more like eighty five percent. Some of 475 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: it like went on the carpet. 476 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: Some of it, Oh, did you get it out of 477 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: the carpet quickly before the wife comes off. 478 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Look, she's leaving blood and urine all over the place. 479 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: The antibiotic is the least of it. I don't know 480 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: what to do. And then she runs off, And I 481 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: know when I tried tonight, I gotta do this every 482 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: twelve hours. I gotta wake up and do this, and 483 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: I gotta do it again right before I go to sleep. 484 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: And just assume that I was up at three in 485 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: the morning. Yeah, just briefly, And I thought, oh, man, 486 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: when I wake up. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta 487 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: give it the the antibiotic again. Okay, so all morning, 488 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: well I was preparing, I was reading stuff. Thing. I 489 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: gotta do the antibiotic. I gotta tackle right, and I 490 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: am not coordinated for this. I'm not. It's more likely 491 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to drink the bios. Okright. 492 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: So Ginny Harmon, who does our traffic, she's a cat lady. 493 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: She loves cat, she has cats. She has a suggestion 494 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: for you. She said, tell him to wrap the cat 495 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: in a towel like a burrito. Then it's easier to 496 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: get the liquid in. 497 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: So there you go. That's a suggestion. 498 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: You may as well try it. 499 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: Well, I've got to get to her to wrap. 500 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: The Maybe this is what you do. You don't show 501 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: her the syringe exactly. So then you go and you 502 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: get her. You pretend that you're maybe with a treat, 503 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: and then you wrap her like a burrito in the 504 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: towel and then you use your backhand and you grab 505 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: the syringe in. You know that will work probably for 506 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: one time. 507 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: Okay, that gets me to number three tonight, right then 508 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: I have four through ten still to come. Oh, there's 509 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: got to be a better way than this. Call the 510 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: vet and say, hey, this is not. 511 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: Exactly that's what I would do. 512 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: Race has take the cat to the pound. I'm trying 513 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: to save her life. That's very nice of you, But 514 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: what do I get for it? Nothing? That is the world. 515 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: I know exactly how you feel. And I seriously, it's 516 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: very funny because I'm picturing you running around. 517 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: I look like an itch. I know. 518 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure you do. I can picture it. Thank you, 519 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: You're welcome. But I feel for you because that's the 520 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: worst trying to give animals that that good stuff and 521 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: a syringe. 522 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: Somebody must have come up with a better invention, a 523 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: better process. Somebody. There's eight billion people in the world. 524 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: They were doing this fifty years ago. Why can't it 525 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: come in a pill I don't know. 526 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: Maybe you should have asked for one. Maybe they do 527 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: have it in a pill form. I would call on 528 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: your way home. 529 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: Seriously, I think I'm going to This is just I 530 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: can't do this eight eight more times. That cat's not 531 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: going to make it through the week. All Right, we 532 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: come back, Rick Caruso striking back and telling you, telling 533 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: everybody what's really going on with the fire recovery in 534 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: the Palisades. Debra Mark is live in the CAFI twenty 535 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: four our newsroom. 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