WEBVTT - Aisha Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>When I do live gigs around the country, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you. I sell T shirts and swag to

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<v Speaker 1>the folks who are there, and then people always say,

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<v Speaker 1>can we get this swag without sitting through a whole

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<v Speaker 1>evening of you. Well, it's happened. It's finally here. You

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<v Speaker 1>can buy Craig Ferguson merch on the Craig Ferguson Merch

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<v Speaker 1>website and you can buy it for yourself or someone

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<v Speaker 1>you hate or someone you love. For more information and

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<v Speaker 1>link to the web store, please go to the Craig

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<v Speaker 1>Fergusonshow dot com. That's all lowercase, the Craig Ferguson show

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast is joy. I talk to interest in people

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<v Speaker 1>about what brings them happiness. My guest today is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who I've known for a very long time. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite guests when I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>The late night show.

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<v Speaker 1>And she is maybe the coolest person I know. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I know some pretty cool people. She's certainly in the

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<v Speaker 1>top fifty. She's very very cool. Aisha Tyler, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so good?

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<v Speaker 1>Is your coffee tasty?

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<v Speaker 3>I love this coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>It was described to me as a blonde Americano.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Strange sexual subtext with the coffee, but it's got but

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<v Speaker 2>if a.

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<v Speaker 1>Do belong tone, If you don't mind me saying it

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<v Speaker 1>really does, I don't mind it at all. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from a new company called.

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<v Speaker 3>Never heard of Them? Yeah, no idea that right.

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<v Speaker 1>So somebody just told me you've got a cocktail company.

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<v Speaker 2>I started a cocktail company. Yeah, you know. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember the last time I saw you. It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, a long time in person anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, let me tell you this because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you knew the time. I think you did,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think I said it to you, like because

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<v Speaker 1>you were when I when I quit late night, they

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<v Speaker 1>said who do you think should take over?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said I used to Oh my god, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you, But no one listens to me.

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<v Speaker 3>So because no one listens to me either, because the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Time I was doing that shore, I was worried about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my weight and my accent. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>pick a fat guy with a working worse accent than me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, that's not right at all? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>still working? For CBS.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, yeah, I still work for CBS. I'm Criminal Minds.

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<v Speaker 2>And well now Criminal Minds is on Paramount Plus, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's like the parent organization is it's not CBS anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Minds is like an institution though it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>In its seventeen season, which is just like a mathematic impossibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, You've called you must be really rich. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like seventeen seasons and then.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, I've only done seven seasons, so I'm only.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so you're still in the kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty bucks an episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Still I'm still world building.

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<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, I mean, I I realize now that

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<v Speaker 2>I had been working for CBS in some capacity or

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<v Speaker 2>another for probably two decades.

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<v Speaker 3>My god, you know, I had done. I had done.

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<v Speaker 2>I had like a couple of overall deals there, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I did Ghost Whisper and then I was on

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<v Speaker 2>you know, The Talk, and I did c S.

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<v Speaker 3>I for a season.

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<v Speaker 1>They was really they really love you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's me. It's a company of loyalty.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think they bet on their own good instinct. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like if they bet on you, they believe in you,

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<v Speaker 2>they stick with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I never really worked for them, No, No, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing late and I worked for Dave my Time

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<v Speaker 1>Slow and CBS on the thing. Yeah yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But did you ever interact with CBS? Yeah a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>No much. I mean I had to go to the building,

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<v Speaker 1>but not much. I had to have I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go to some Super Bowls every now and again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I just went to the Super Bowl this year

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<v Speaker 2>because it was it was a really really good game

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<v Speaker 2>and it was the Swifties versus everyone else. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>Swifties versus the Internet. Yeah, from San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just there last year, were you. It's awesome, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great city.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's in my opinion, and obviously I'm biased, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the most beautiful city in America.

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<v Speaker 3>It has beautiful It's like our Paris.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's got this it's surrounded by water, it's walkable,

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<v Speaker 2>there's great restaurants. It's got the most beautiful baseball park

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. I will, I will actually get into

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<v Speaker 2>a physical altercation over it.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been to the base.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's delirious, like it overlooks the bay and there's

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<v Speaker 2>splashed down alley where if there's like a home run,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes into the water and they're kayakers out there

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<v Speaker 2>catching the baseball, and you know, and then at San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco's you can get like sushi, you know, like garlic

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<v Speaker 2>fries at the park.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I was looking on social media, which I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is a mistake. You shouldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you shouldn't, and I I'm shocked. That feels out

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<v Speaker 2>of character for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it actually did. I I don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 3>And pull out your abacus to look at social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Every now and again, I do it, like I download

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram because I have gone Instagram again. Yeah, And normally

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like ignore it, yeah, dude, Like somebody says,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you're posting. I think about your podcast, like okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we're going to say. Is that okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But every now and again I go on it and

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. I was looking at for somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco because I was go in there. It come

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<v Speaker 1>up and it's like San Francisco in the hell of

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco fire. And then I was like you went

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like it's birds are tweeting and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's perfect it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A city because I grew up there. Like that, I

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<v Speaker 2>find that narrative specifically irritating. I'm like, right, there's always

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<v Speaker 2>been an intense I don't even say homeless problem. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's a progressive city and people help homeless people.

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<v Speaker 2>So homeless people go there because they know there are services.

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<v Speaker 2>They know it's a good place if you're poor, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a progressive place and people are going to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of you. The big problem, honestly is tech. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Tech took over the city and then they abandoned it,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there's a part of San Francisco it's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>small where they all left their offices. They empty, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it feels a little bit like a ghost town.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you know, I blame Zuckerberg.

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<v Speaker 1>I blame in Zuckerberg for most things. I swear to God,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that one of the worst things that's

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the human race in the past fifty years

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<v Speaker 1>and then, and there's been a few pretty bad things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But social media is that's a civilization then there. If

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<v Speaker 1>we're not careful it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because I can see the value in it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I remember during COVID feeling like they're like, and

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<v Speaker 2>my Twitter feed is pretty positive because I look at

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<v Speaker 2>positive things. So like, my Twitter feed was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at poppy videos and kitting videos or like

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<v Speaker 2>my primary source of information during COVID because it was

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<v Speaker 2>the only way not to lose your mind. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter was responsible for, or at least partly responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>driving the Arab spring. It was partially, I think predominantly

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for driving Black Lives Matter. Like it was a

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<v Speaker 2>way for people to share information without the filter of

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<v Speaker 2>kind of corporate media. It was a way for you

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<v Speaker 2>to get information from people on the ground rather than

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<v Speaker 2>again from corporate media. But I mean, because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a twelve year old girl, I know when I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at something on the Internet that's going to make me

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<v Speaker 2>feel like shit for weeks after, So I don't look

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<v Speaker 2>at it. Right. I have an ability to filter with

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<v Speaker 2>my mind. I'm psychic, amusing my mind and brain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is bullshit, this is real.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I could easily become a radicalized face

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<v Speaker 1>book mom if I had Facebook. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just because I don't I mean, I used to know

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<v Speaker 1>when I was looking at bullshit and now I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of don't. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough to parse and those I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 2>elements that are trying to tell you, like everything you

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<v Speaker 2>see around you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is like a thought, a thought experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>What if all of a sudden every message you got

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<v Speaker 2>was the world isn't real. Everything you're looking at isn't real,

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<v Speaker 2>everything you've been told isn't real. You can't figure, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't get back on the Oh, his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Is up, guys. Yes, right, So here's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're familiar with the work of Renade the cart.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes, but I wouldn't say intimately.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, but enough to go to look at When

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, I've talked about this before on podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you use reason, when he went to try

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<v Speaker 1>and use reason rather than revelation to prove the existence

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<v Speaker 1>of God, and so he started with that he would

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<v Speaker 1>doubt everything, right, So you just doubt everything. I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt that I exist, I doubt that God exists,

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt the universe is real. Everything doubt everything. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we start. The only thing you can't doubt

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're doubting, right, I mean, you can if

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<v Speaker 1>you're doubting, you're doubting, right. So if you're doubting, the

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<v Speaker 1>what you need to do to doubt is to think right.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're thinking, that's where he got to cognito

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<v Speaker 1>ergo simon. If I thinking I exist, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>therefore I am. And I wonder if, like with social media,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is not to try and stop it, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to stop it. It's not going to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna it may, it may devour itself itself. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at some point, I think X is eventually

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<v Speaker 2>going to winkle out of existence because it's.

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<v Speaker 1>No longer as relevant as I meant the teeth that

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<v Speaker 1>it had when it was Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>It had literally like a party at four thirty in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning where like three people are still in there

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<v Speaker 2>and they're pouring getting all the beers together to make

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<v Speaker 2>one giant kind of one beer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they're just in the corner screaming at each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole idea of using reason to fight against

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<v Speaker 1>the power of social media, because I'm genuinely scared. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm scared of it. I'm second it's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth being, you know, frightened on behalf of people

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<v Speaker 2>who are living in a space of doubt and can't

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<v Speaker 2>fight their way out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because their children.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean I couldn't even imagine having kids

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<v Speaker 2>in this climate. Like my mother wouldn't let me watch television.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have a TV.

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<v Speaker 3>I read a lot. I mean, it explains a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was like, you know, you've got to form

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<v Speaker 2>your own ideas, You've got to form your own perception

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<v Speaker 2>of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>But reason, Yeah, you've got a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got you've got to take in as much information

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<v Speaker 2>as possible and make your own calculations.

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<v Speaker 3>But kids don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're being they're being shaped by Forrest's outside of themselves

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<v Speaker 2>when at their most impressionable. And I was just having

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation with someone. We really went deep so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having a conversation my Boos company. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about after after you free yourself out then. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was that that fear. You know that they are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like these primary drivers in the human body, the

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<v Speaker 2>human mind, and one of them is fear, and that

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<v Speaker 2>fear and anger are like very closely coupled.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're animals and we've only been walking up

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<v Speaker 2>right for a very short period of time in our

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<v Speaker 2>evolutionary span. You know, we just figured out how to

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<v Speaker 2>turn the lights Otherwise we've been around for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred years, you know, and we were plopped on

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<v Speaker 2>the earth with a big fun or jump fake dinosaurs,

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<v Speaker 2>fake fake fossils, such an elaborate both what a what

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<v Speaker 2>a what a what a broad sprawling false flag operationating.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're an all powerful deity, why would you pull

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of like.

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<v Speaker 2>When you ask people these kinds of questions, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>who and how and why would somebody spread these false

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<v Speaker 2>fossils all over the world?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what's a There's just no way. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>it can't beget You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like you'll go fizzle in the corner with your

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<v Speaker 2>body with the work at the end of the party.

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<v Speaker 2>But that the fear and the anger because you know

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<v Speaker 2>we're you know, these kind of cowering creatures that we

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<v Speaker 2>were living in caves and we're going to be eaten.

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<v Speaker 2>They serve a purpose, right if you're frightened then and

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<v Speaker 2>you're you know, you're fearful, then you get angry, then

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<v Speaker 2>you fight, You protect yourself, you protect.

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<v Speaker 3>Your family, you stay alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now you know, everybody's driving around in a cushy

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<v Speaker 2>car and you know, staring at a shiny box, and

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<v Speaker 2>so all that fear and anger, that kind of natural

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<v Speaker 2>fear and anger that has been a protective element of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our species for so long, is now connected

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<v Speaker 2>to the Internet and to social media, and so because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a natural reaction, but it doesn't have anywhere to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tethered to images of these people are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>kill me, These people are threatening my way of life.

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<v Speaker 2>This person wants to steal my daughter. This person wants

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<v Speaker 2>to eat babies. None of these things are true, but

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<v Speaker 2>we have to put that energy somewhere. And because people

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<v Speaker 2>can't figure out what's real anymore, they become consumed by

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<v Speaker 2>false images.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do we do? How do we how do

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<v Speaker 1>we figure out? I have a plan about a cocktail,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have a cocktail and we watched can you

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<v Speaker 1>see criminal mindy?

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<v Speaker 2>You you are you know, I know you haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>a drink in a very long time, and I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>very very long time, which I'm very impressed by.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're also like a very sophisticated thinker. I'll take

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<v Speaker 3>it you well, you are. You're a very high thinker.

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<v Speaker 2>My relationship with booze is is is complex, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I love it and I'm a spirit enthusiast.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do a lot. I was. I'm a quality

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<v Speaker 3>over quantity lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Well see that's I would say that was healthy then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know, I feel like it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that's been a tool of conviviality.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a way to connect with people.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's how it's for most people. Just for me

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, But for most people, I think booze is

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<v Speaker 1>reasonably healthful.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, to think about it like

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<v Speaker 2>anything else in the world, like social media or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, to try to find a way to have

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy relationship with it and realize if you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>to put it down right, because I think always a

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<v Speaker 2>good way to look at it. But I just used

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<v Speaker 2>to love the experience of going to a great bar,

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<v Speaker 2>having a great drink, talking to the bartender.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was a stand up, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when you're a stand up, you have your hour

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<v Speaker 2>on stage and then the other twenty three hours that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to like entertain yourself, I know, and you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be careful. Yeah, and so I would go to

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<v Speaker 2>a bar. I would go to a bar, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to somebody, because you know, you can only

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<v Speaker 2>eat bar mix in your hotel and watch Law and

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<v Speaker 2>Order reruns so many nights before it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Well with me. It's criminal minds. Thank you for that,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And and then I wanted to find a way to

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<v Speaker 2>create that experience for people who didn't do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of like, rather than drinking some sad warm

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<v Speaker 2>beer or bad bottle of wine, to have one great

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<v Speaker 2>drink at home, but not have to make it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So will you? Does it come like pre make.

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<v Speaker 3>Creemate, it's ready to drink cocktail.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the brand is the line is calledhlosophy like philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>all right, and which stands for the philosophy of elevation.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of like, don't drink the worst thing. Have

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<v Speaker 2>have expression the best expression of what you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to drink.

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<v Speaker 3>Some oh my god in latin.

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<v Speaker 2>Eless and so h and so it was really a

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<v Speaker 2>way of saying, you know, you deserve better, because so

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<v Speaker 2>much of this is ready to drink stuff is pretty trashy,

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, so we have a margarita. It's the first,

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<v Speaker 2>the first cocktail that we're launching with.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hundred percent organic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one hundred percent blue ebber agave tequila bottled in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>It only has three ingredients tequila.

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<v Speaker 2>Triple second line, which is all that should be in

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<v Speaker 2>a margarita, right, And it took us two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half years to develop. We hired a Citrus PhD, and

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<v Speaker 2>they know those things existed.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so somebody goes to college like a fancy call,

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<v Speaker 1>very fancy. So what's your PhD going to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Limes and limes and limes and.

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<v Speaker 2>Women apart from limes and lemons, orange, tangerine, yellow, Buddha's hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, there are so many. I feel such a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fool, you know, flung Latin in my face. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to come back very aggressively.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a citrus eletterate.

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<v Speaker 1>That's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>There are many others that I couldn't even possibly meant.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh coume quats, ohquatch.

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<v Speaker 1>The come quotes are in the doll Belong Tondre Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame, along with Lake Tittykarca. Absolutely there's another one

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I can't remember what it asked the blue

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<v Speaker 1>Footed Booby, Bluefooted Booby, that's Bluefooted Booby, cum Quats and

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Tittykarca the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dublo Hall Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. The Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascal Stand Up Tour continues

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the United States in twenty twenty four. For a

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<v Speaker 1>full list of dates and tickets, go to the Craig

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<v Speaker 1>Ferguson Show dot com slash tour.

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<v Speaker 3>So you are there.

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<v Speaker 1>When I said to you earlier that when I left

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<v Speaker 1>late night, you were my you know, like they said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, who do you think to take over? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I think, I used to hell of it

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<v Speaker 1>would be best for it because I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>had the class and the and the poise that I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't done for further ten years previously. Is it something

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<v Speaker 1>that you would have been interested in?

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<v Speaker 2>I was interested in at the time, and I guess hosted.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, A lot of people come through.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 3>It's so interesting? You know, I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I you know, I loved coming on the

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<v Speaker 2>show when you did it. Yeah, Because I came out

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<v Speaker 2>of stand up radio was a big fundamental part of

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<v Speaker 2>my life for such a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I love your art of conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think comedians passionate comedians.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and we were very very people.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think like at our core, we just love

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<v Speaker 2>to have a conversation, right, I just want to sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and like talk shit. Well, there's some guys want

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<v Speaker 2>to scream at you or you know, our fart or

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<v Speaker 2>blow something up or you know, bring something with a

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<v Speaker 2>hammer amel, Yeah, exactly, But.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we just want to have the chats, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's true. But I think there is a

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<v Speaker 1>generational uh divide, And maybe I'm just like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on my lawn or yelling at people. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really complaining about it. I just noticed a

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<v Speaker 1>difference that there is a there is a thing now

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<v Speaker 1>where people will say I I would like to have

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<v Speaker 1>a career in comedy, and they make it sound like

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's like being a citrus PhD or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know, It's like like it's a like I

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<v Speaker 1>think the comedians that I like, and I include you

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<v Speaker 1>in this, are people who kind of are in some

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<v Speaker 1>way tortured into it. Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>That there's like the chats thing you talk about. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's true. Like, but comedians who are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like I really need to talk to somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Want anyone because I'm going to explore it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whereas you know, there are other comedians and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's maybe not that new though, come and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how about those airline peanuts everybody? Or what's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal with shoes? You have to tie them? You

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<v Speaker 1>don't tie them? And I'm like, well don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that. I worry a lot more about about

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<v Speaker 1>bigger maybe bigger, but maybe I should be worried about shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you know you. And then the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that I really admired when I was a baby comic

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<v Speaker 2>were the conversationalists, you know, that Bill Hicks's and the

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Marin's and I was, I mean, you know, Mark's

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna just spin off into space, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be Mark because what it felt like

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<v Speaker 2>when I was watching him was this is a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>He's just sitting down and he's talking to the audience,

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<v Speaker 2>and it always felt really organic and natural.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt like a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with Mark is I mean, it's like he's

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<v Speaker 1>such a I mean, no one would no one embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>Very choke he's been. He's been improving himself for quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of time.

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<v Speaker 3>He's getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>He does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's I think he's involved quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, or Tom Rhodes or you know, or the

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<v Speaker 2>grandfather of all of us, Richard pryor you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. Where it was you know, obviously a very

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<v Speaker 2>tortured guy, but it was also this conversation, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>versus the guys that were like here, poop fart sounds

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<v Speaker 2>way home.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, this is something that happened to me

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<v Speaker 3>and you've felt.

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<v Speaker 2>I always say to baby comics now, like it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to be funny, but that's not the most important thing.

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<v Speaker 3>The most important thing is to tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you, if you, you can see when someone

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<v Speaker 2>leaves a show that was hilarious and when someone goes,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my fucking god, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to hear what this guy was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>When people are nodding their heads and they're punching their

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<v Speaker 2>friend in the arm because they're like they're feeling something,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the laugh is like important but complimentary, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think what you're talking about there is a

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<v Speaker 1>live stand up performance, yeah, I mean what exists now

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think. I mean there used to be

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<v Speaker 1>like for a stand up you would try and get

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<v Speaker 1>a ten minutes for tonight shure, yeah yeah, or ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes for the improv for ten minutes, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>always a ten minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that was supposed to encapsulate your pointing a meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Right in ten minutes. And now you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>that in forty five seconds thirty seconds. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I could never do it in ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes me half an hour to start the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I'm like, hey, good evening. Well when

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<v Speaker 1>I say good evening, and you know, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>takes me.

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<v Speaker 3>Once of the word evening. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at Renee the card, but he said

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<v Speaker 1>good evening, he was a citress PhD. But the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of no, somehow it's different, I don't know. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's better even I don't know, but it's certainly different.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't watch a lot of comedy, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why that is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a comedian in living or dead I would

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<v Speaker 1>pay money you can see.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I'm like, why am I Maybe I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>person standing on my front line, like, oh, you kids

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what I think about it. Like I used

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<v Speaker 2>to not watch comedy because I didn't want other people's

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<v Speaker 2>jokes to get in my head exactly, And now I

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<v Speaker 2>strangely it's like I'm a retired porn star and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>never gonna have sex again. Like I'm not that compelled

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<v Speaker 2>by it. Like I'm not like, oh, let's watch a

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<v Speaker 2>special I did watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just roll you back to the retirement.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just one for the kids that I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched the Gerrod Carmichael special Rathaniel, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I know it was really popular. But I watched his

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<v Speaker 2>reality show, which is like really really wild, and one

0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:50.920
<v Speaker 2>thing that there's a bunch of his comedy in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's doing that thing where he's just sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>a chair talking to people, right, and there's there's something

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<v Speaker 2>about like and I feel like you did this too.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about like letting the air out of the room,

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<v Speaker 2>or there's not the pressure to have three jokes a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is a conversation that also, let's take the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure off the audience too. Oh yeah, now we're just

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<v Speaker 2>going to connect with this guy, not like, well I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't laugh for the last thirty minutes, so I have

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<v Speaker 2>to have another rubbed coke and drown my feelings. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that but that that's that Or like tag Natara is

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<v Speaker 2>also very kind of conversationalist, right, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's someone who that's the real deal. But but

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<v Speaker 1>for me, that the idea of stand up it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like even putting the word comedy on.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, I mean, yeah, stand up, stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because there's going to be times when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no in a club, like if there's if there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>chicken fingers coming out and you know, and it depends.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I think sometimes you've got to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>read the audience a little bit and let them find you.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is odd to me.

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't exciting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an exciting kind of math problem to solve

0:21:57.280 --> 0:21:59.680
<v Speaker 2>walking into a room and seeing where the audience was

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.560
<v Speaker 2>eating them, where they were like versus coming barreling in,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with you know, your T shirt cannon. You

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<v Speaker 2>know we all did because you know, you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>got to get this hour ends, I can get my

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<v Speaker 2>money and go back to the hotel and drink my

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<v Speaker 2>oxidized glass of Sauvignon blanc.

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<v Speaker 1>Guitar of.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, oh this is so off pieced.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember this was like when I was very

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<v Speaker 2>much like in my baby years that there was this

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<v Speaker 2>infamous video of this guy at the punchline in San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco who was a guitar comic and he was being

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<v Speaker 2>heckled and everybody was really like on the comic side

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<v Speaker 2>and pissed off at the heckler. But then the heckler

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<v Speaker 2>approached the stage and the guitar comic you just see

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<v Speaker 2>the guitar like rear out of frame.

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<v Speaker 3>And then whack this guy in the head.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it comes back and it's just like the

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<v Speaker 2>neck and a few days he's just creamed this.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy with this guitar.

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<v Speaker 2>It disintegrated the guitar and you hear the audience just go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember like watching that and we, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>would laugh about it, and I think the guy was

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<v Speaker 2>I hope the guy was okay, but as like the

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<v Speaker 2>classic like and that's where he lost.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where he lost.

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<v Speaker 3>The audience lost, the audience.

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 1>When you commit an act of violence on one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you're not There's no coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there is no no. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing a show I don't know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>still do stand up.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, do you still do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do it all the time, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of for me. It's like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>learned to play the piano when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And although I've played in orchestras and I've written scores

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<v Speaker 1>for movies and I do that, I still like to

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<v Speaker 1>when I see a piano and the lunge of the hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of my I like it. I like it

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes me feel good. And I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a show in Texas, I don't know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months ago. A gentleman collapsed, oh geez, and like we

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<v Speaker 1>had to get the paramedics in and the lights go

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<v Speaker 1>up across.

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<v Speaker 3>The excitement I mean not great, but still excitement.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean really, and the guy kind of he gets

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<v Speaker 1>taken out and I say, look, obviously we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the show. And we stopped the show and the

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>audience is kind of sitting there and it's weird, and

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<v Speaker 1>I go out in the guy's regain consciousness. That Barnley,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, it wasn't a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but the paramedics and we'll take you, take you another look,

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>but we think you're okay. It's like dehydration or something.

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>And it was all right. And I spoke to the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that collapsed. They brought him around. He was in

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<v Speaker 1>a gurney and he said, no, I'm fine. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just go back and finish the show, and he went, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should. So I went back and I

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<v Speaker 1>was really excited because I thought, how am I going

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<v Speaker 1>to dude?

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<v Speaker 3>This is how am I going to turn this show?

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<v Speaker 2>Like like the the the anxiety and the anticipation of

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<v Speaker 2>like can I make this work?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a great show.

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<v Speaker 3>After that, people must have just been zinging, right.

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<v Speaker 1>They were scared. And then I told him it was

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<v Speaker 1>all right and I talked to the guy. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>the relief relief, and then there's the running joke of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I pretend to faint because I am, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what let's talk about him because because you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of acting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I've been lucky to stay pretty busy.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, see that's the thing with me. I see,

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<v Speaker 1>you are one of the smartest people I have met

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<v Speaker 1>in this time. No, look, it's not a fucking high bar,

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>like you are the tallest little person in the circus.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one with other film of her own assholes.

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<v Speaker 2>She seems smart, but you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that being said, you are one of the

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<v Speaker 1>smartest people have man in this town. And I get

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<v Speaker 1>bored with the acting.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've also created a lot of stuff for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've written and produced and directed all these films,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's so all consuming that I could see it's

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<v Speaker 2>feeling relatively draining, you know, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's boring though, I mean, because you've directed movies and

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<v Speaker 1>that that's not No.

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<v Speaker 3>I love directing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, I mean I just directed I think

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<v Speaker 2>my fourteenth episode of television.

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<v Speaker 1>You directing The Criminal Minds and.

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<v Speaker 3>Direct on Criminal Minds. I've directed the Criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>Minds television series show, Yes, the entertainment show. And I've

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 2>directed Walking Dead Fear the Walking Dead, which was a

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 2>really cool experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I like when that is the that Norman Norman reads.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a delightful fellow. He's a great actor.

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>He's got that kind of like he's got that something.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is he going to do? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he doesn't have that good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I kind of like that and like in

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<v Speaker 1>a sportsperson or like an any artist, story of what

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<v Speaker 1>the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also he was an interesting actor as a young person,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think this is true of all actors. So

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if maybe you'll return to it at some point.

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Is that you get you just get more interesting as

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<v Speaker 2>you get older. I think there were so predisposed or

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<v Speaker 2>so obsessed with youth in Hollywood, but really the actors

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>just get interesting once they've like as Niko Costa used

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<v Speaker 2>to say, got fucked and got their heart broken, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean?

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Like you need to you need to live.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And then you see these guys like god, this guy,

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 2>he's doing incredible work in his fifties and sixties.

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, she's gotten so much more interesting.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>She's working all the time because you know, like stuff's

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 2>happen to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends, though, on what was your currency at

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, because I wondered, this is something that I

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>thought about. Now, this is going to sound a little weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's stay with me a little bit, all right, So

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you are very beautiful. Oh no, but you are a

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>very beautiful looking person. And I think that it's particularly

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<v Speaker 1>when you are a young performer, like when you were

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>doing this suit. You know, it's like, wow, look at this.

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like a supermodel and she's funny, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that is because I think for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young performers because like most people, when they're young,

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<v Speaker 1>they're cut mean, I mean, as cute as you, but

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>but young and cute. When that ncy goes away and

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't for you, but you start to think that

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that maybe I need to have that all the time.

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why people end up mutilating themselves.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Mutilating themselves. Yes, strange, it's like an alien race.

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 2>And then it becomes the tempo for everybody where, like

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, if you have a normal face

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>like you, you are the one who's an outlier, which

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I think is so odd. I mean, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>lucky I have the benefit of genetics. Like my grandmother

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>was just a young looking lady.

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 3>My mom's she's eighty.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.439
<v Speaker 2>She looks like she's maybe fifty five. Like I just

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I just hit the jackpot. Yeah yeah, But also that's evident.

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 2>But I also feel like, you know, it's a constant

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>reminding yourself that your currency. And it's easy for me

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>to say that your currency are not your looks. You know,

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.959
<v Speaker 2>I think Hollywood for men and for women, but obviously

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>more for women is so much about youth and how

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>thin you are and how but you know, like your

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 2>body is just carrying their fucking brain around, and the

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>brain is the most important thing, right the brain. This

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>is the thing that's gonna keep you vital and connected

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>for the rest of your life. And this kind of

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 2>obsession with like I don't know to me. And I

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 2>think because I was a stand up you know, and

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>when I was there weren't a lot I mean it

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like I started in the thirties, but there weren't

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.959
<v Speaker 2>a million women doing it at that time, so you know,

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>you just had to nut up right and and you know,

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I never that was never my currency. I wasn't gonna

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>get there out there like a half shirt in the miniskirt.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, this is a job of

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the mind. So maybe I was lucky that.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>You see male and female stand ups. No, they're like

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>they're really good looks.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's that one guy who looks like an

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>underwear model or whatever.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Women who are like oh wow, right, and who was

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>actually who did you watch?

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Did you watch the Tom Brady Rose?

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see you all of that so a bit.

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>That's the the first time I've watched stand up in

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>a very long time, even though it wasn't really stand up.

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 2>And there was the one Nikki Glazier.

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Nicki Glazer set was like a perfect sech.

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean she's really really really.

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Really really funny and she's very glamorous, which also always

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>feels a little countertuitive, but she killed it. And then

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Sam j like the two the best sets of the

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 2>night were like these two women, which was just great

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to see, you know what I mean, Yeah, it was

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>really great to watch.

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I've always kind of like I remember thinking right about

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the time, but twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, it was one

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>time when I thought, you know, what the world really

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>is lacking right now is Joan Rivers? Like because I

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like Joan was a real counter way.

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>She was and she was a constant right and she

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>was just a machine.

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 3>She was lovely lady. I got to know her like

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 3>late in life, and.

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>She she was wow because she was such an institution.

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I loved there was a huge fan of her and

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I never met her.

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It was The weird thing is because I worked in

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Late Night and Joan had this big fallen out with

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Carson and Peter Lasally and so they were I

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, let's get John Rivers on the show and

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>they were like, no.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, You're like grow up. Also, like how long

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 2>ago was that pullet together?

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Everybody was mad. It was like they and it was

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of weird. There was a couple of people like that,

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, why can't we have them on

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the show, And they're like wow, because you know.

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Because of something that happened in nineteen eighty nine and

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't even me.

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>But know what was interesting is that later on, if

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd have thought about it, oh yeah, fuck it.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 2>But you just forget, you know, and you're caught up

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>in kind of the gears of the machine sometimes, you know.

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I think they were a little concerned as well, because

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>when I first started and Late Night, they said, who

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>do you want on the show as your first guest.

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I said, I would like Kurt wont to get junior

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>first guy. They were like, no, that's.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Not going to happen, absolutely not.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>You'll have David Dakovny like everyone else's hell yeah, yeah,

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and that was a smart guy. Also tell everybody, as

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it turned out, you can write a bit. Yeah, that's right,

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he said. He have you written books yet?

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I have. I've done two. I did two.

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Bucks, I've read them both.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I just you just wanted to make sure I remember.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna because you read mine.

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 3>I have, I have fred All.

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I just but I watched a movie of yours relatively recently.

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Was it one where you go to a castle and Kethy?

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes, listen, I just watched that one recently.

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. I'm going to tell you something,

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and I defy you. I defy you to disagree with me. Right,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that's much better than you think it's going to be.

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>That movie. You look at that movie like, oh.

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Man, I've got to see this, and you're like, really

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 3>not that bad.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I love I love that You're like, like just the

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 2>narrative of the acquittal of your own work, because I mean,

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 2>it didn't suck as much as you thought it was.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I find you to be a riveting player,

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>like I always like watching you, and Kathy Lee Gifford

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>is consistently Kathy Lee Gifford.

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, she Have.

0:32:58.160 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>You met Kenny?

0:32:59.280 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean I feel like I must have done that

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>show like way back in the day, you know what

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean? That era of daytime TV has ended right

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>like that, very I don't want to say strange, but

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 2>like a very kind of arch kind of Hey, everybody region.

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Like that, like that, that era,

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 3>it seems to happen.

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>We just used to be in the record books for

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>being the man who was on TV.

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Most long the longest.

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but none of his record's been smashed a

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>million times by just like kids who film themselves on phone.

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>So it's like it doesn't it doesn't mean a TikTok's

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>destroyed them home. I don't do the tickety talk. I've

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>got a tickety talk. Yeah, hold on to it for

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 1>songs again. Yeah it goes away. Yeah, yeah, it's gone away.

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, who knows? It's so interesting. I see why this

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>whole thing is happening with TikTok. But I it's it

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>seems strangely Unamerican. And I'm not saying that critically or

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>non critically. I'm just saying it's very odd for a

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>capitalist government to ban a giant corporation, Like, I don't

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 2>get it, really, yeah, I don't. So I don't think

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 2>it's going to hold to take.

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's going to be there's some I

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're aware of this, but there's some

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty good lawyers in this country.

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 2>They are just salivating over. But it will go on

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 2>for a decade. You know.

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 3>By that time, the kids will invent something else they were.

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>They're hanging onto this until Harry and Meghan did to

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>get divorced. That's the big next legal opportunity is like

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>can we get some of that sweet royal family money?

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Can we pull it back? Oh my god?

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>But the I kind of it's kind of weird to

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>me though, because I feel this could in one and

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>one part of the the like the zeitgeist, I feel

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of disconnected from it, and then the other part

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of love that I'm disconnected from it. I

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of I am the liberation of like you can

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>be in your own world and you don't have to.

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm where you are, Like, I feel like

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the unique nature of where we are with social media

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 2>is that for the first time in human history, we

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 2>are essentially and I know, not truly, but essentially connected

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>with everybody else in the world right in a way

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>that we never have been before, you know, I mean

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 2>in our lifetimes. Like email was invented, the Internet was invented, right,

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Everything that feels like so fundamental to our existence right

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 2>now is relatively new, and so the idea and I

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>was always saying earlier about you know, something like Twitter,

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 2>driving the airb Spring, driving, Black Lives Matter, driving me

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 2>to driving, these these global movements that affected people all

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 2>over the world and literally in a lot of ways

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 2>improved their lives, like you know, the even.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 4>And had rivers been here, then we would have also

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 4>had great jokes, like what we needed was punchlines for

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 4>the Arab women demonstrating and driving without face, driving without

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 4>their head scars.

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 2>We really needed Joan to have a head scar joke

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 2>in there, but that that we're in a unique time

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and to say to yourself, I'm going to opt out.

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 2>You're only just going back to the way human existence

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>was twenty years ago. I mean it's not you know,

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>you're not living in a cave. You know, most people,

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 2>for the history of human existence couldn't fucking put something

0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 2>on their phone and then have a guy and you

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 2>know Rush or South America read it. It's just this

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 2>is a new tool. It is a new tool, and

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it's not critical for your for your personal

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 2>and like happiness, you know what I mean.

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Like no, And I think it's a it's a little

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>bit like electricity or a knife. I mean, it can

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>kill you or make your tools. It's like it's it's

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>how you use it.

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I stopped.

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I find social media to be like incredibly burdensome, Like

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I uh, it's a tool that I started using so

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I could like promote my stand up shows of course,

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 2>and you know, promote my TV shows. And it's nice

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to connect with you and my alcohol and my cocka

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>God bless you. My brand new Coca company lock and

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>feed with the new Margarita.

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>You can pre order it at lasophy dot com organic market.

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 2>It's the only it's not the only organic margraine on

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the market, but it is the best tasting, ready to

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 2>drink margareta.

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 3>That one I'm going to work. I just take my

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 3>word for it.

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 2>It'll never tastetric, punchy, arresting, a little arresty, but it

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>really is very delicious. But so for a little while

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>when I was going to launch the company, I did

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>with with kids do what kids do it?

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, like Beyonce does you know Donald Clover.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>A well, you know, yes, I know, but when the

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 2>kids are already even it's the Swift Taylor, I don't

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 2>know if Taylor Swift did this.

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Woman.

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 2>You you wipe your you wipe your feed right, you

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>remove your feed so there's nothing when people go to

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>see you online, you have nothing in your feed, and

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>then they're like, oh, like it's like a watch this space.

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Kind of move.

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody would.

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 2>They might do well, since you don't have a space,

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>it'd be hard to watch the space.

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>But may have my spaces on my space.

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Everybody, please go back to Craig's Tumblr, pa agency what

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 2>he's got.

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Going on there. And so I had this.

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Freedom because I was waiting for the company to launch,

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 2>where I didn't I wasn't posting, and oh my god,

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>it was like skipping down the street with no shirt on.

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I loved not not feeling obligated to look at

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 2>my social media and now I'm back to doing it,

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and it's a big fat pain in the center of

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:56.919
<v Speaker 2>my house.

0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>It has I have some experience with it, and it

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>has for me all of the hallmarks of that of

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>how it makes you feel. I'm doing this and I

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do it. It makes it does something

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for me that I that I kind of like, but

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel kind of I resent it at

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 3>I can't pull my eyes away.

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm mad at myself for doing it, but I can't

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 2>put it down, and I'm wasting my time.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, well, here's the wasting time. Thing I

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>think is like, I wonder you've written two books. I've

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>written three. But I'm older than you, right, And also

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a tequila company company. But I wonder

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>how many scripts and books and paintings and songs are

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>not happening because of.

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like what what what can secures haven't been invented?

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 2>How much further along we'd be in space travel if

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>people weren't looking at cat videos.

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Even though I love I do like a kid, I

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of.

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>During COVID, it was a COVID and the Trump presidency

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and the world felt like it was unraveling.

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that kept me from like losing my

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>mind mind was just cat and dog videos.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I hate.

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I wish it was something more sophisticated than that, but

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>it was like a full It was like a good

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes every day of just looking at like cats

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 2>jumping off of tinfoil.

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, touching each other in the face.

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Or the dog with the Have you seen the dog

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 2>with the three card money says it the dog it's

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 2>a bolder Retriever, kicks the wrong cup and fixed it

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and then there's only one snack under there.

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>You've seen the one where the border collie uses a

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>little bridge to go over a river, but the labrador

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>comes something just swims under it.

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen that one, but I will be googling

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 3>it immediately.

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stoopid like he watches them.

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>That's that's not a thing.

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 3>It's river.

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like that was the stuff that I guess

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 2>made me feel at in a human time, like purely human.

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is something deeply delightful that wasn't created.

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 4>It contains no narrative and no I know it's not

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 4>driving the human experience for anyone.

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 2>They know.

0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>That's why. I think it's kind of like it's sugar

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>is the ashes, and I like that it's here, I guess.

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>But the truth is it'll kill you. It'll kill your brain. Yeah,

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah. Do you remember a gentleman called Drew Carry.

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<v Speaker 3>I am.

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm quite familiar with him. I actually saw him relatively recently.

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I saw him at the super.

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Bowl talk about someone growing an of themselves.

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Really he has really like just expanded

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 3>into space.

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, in a positive in a pants way, no, no,

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 2>not a pantsway, and like an intellectual, self actualized way. Yeah.

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>It's such a it's such an amazing generate. You watched

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>because I you know, I started working with Drew right

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>back when you were on the Drew Carry Show.

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Right, I was never on the Drew Carry show.

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Who's line?

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Whose line?

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:52.919
<v Speaker 3>I took over for him whose line? Yeah?

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 1>But but you were I think you were part of

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the improv.

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I was. I did a lot, I mean a lot

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 2>of stand a lot of improv, I feel like, and

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I went on his our paths crossed a bunch before

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 2>whose line?

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 3>But you know, it's all a blur.

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I hear. It's like when people talk

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>about you, did you ever watch BoJack?

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I did. I actually did a couple episodes of Jack.

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 3>All right, Yeah, what did you do? I played.

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Aquafina. She was a singing talking dolphin. Oh yeah, dirty, dirty,

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 2>wrapping dolphins.

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I loved bu Jack because I felt like, because I

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>was back in the nineties, I was a famous TV show.

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Famous talk show TV I was on I was I

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 3>was on a TV show in the nineties.

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it was so if you get the combination

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 1>of Curby your enthusiasm, BoJack Horseman, and Ray Donovan, that's

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to live in Eli maybe with a

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>sprinkling of modern.

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Fast that is fair that night. That's a fair assessment.

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:53.959
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's dangerous and awful.

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Dangerous and strange. Yeah, And if you don't work very

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 2>odd it's just like the Internet. If you don't work very,

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 2>very hard to parse what's real from what isn't, you

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 2>can get caught up in like the bizarro.

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 3>World of Hollywood, such.

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 1>A provencial time you haven't moved out.

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 3>It's a company town. It's a company town.

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird. Man, you come in and you like,

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I coming in from the airport the other day and

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>you see a bunch of like billboards for sure as

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that you know are gonna die, and nobody else in

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the country has haird of them, and the actors and

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 1>the producers driving by going well, the billboards up.

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 3>We're just talking to ourselves.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, buddy, of I told me the other day,

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Ah Man, I can't remember what I was talking about

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>talking to you. He's like, yeah, so if you have

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.399
<v Speaker 2>a movie coming out, because we're talking about this movie

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>that was really really good but.

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Didn't didn't do well. It was a great movie and

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 3>it it didn't open, was in the.

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Big teas the nineties. I feel that way about that

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>movie to this day. It is a great movie and

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it does.

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 2>It might have been it might have been a monkey Man,

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.439
<v Speaker 2>which I loved. Monkey Man is a great movie.

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even heard.

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh see, there you go, Depatel. It's kind of like

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I love Batal. He wrote it, he produced it, he's

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 2>in it, he directed, I think, and it's he directed

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 2>it and it's like a kind of a South Asian

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:05.959
<v Speaker 2>John Wick.

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 3>It's amazing. It's an amazing movie.

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>It's so awesome.

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I loved it, and I did fine, Like it should

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 2>have made way more money than it did. Everybody goes

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 2>see it, it's so great, and.

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Why not have a cocktail?

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Why why not watch it at home stream it criminal

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 2>minds as an appetizer as you enjoylosophy, a glass of

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 2>delicious organic margarite hilosophy, and then watch a monkey man

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:29.800
<v Speaker 2>so and then after that, if you're still up, you

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 2>can stream all fourteen seasons of Archer on Netflix. Right.

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I forgot you were.

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, you know what everything else to do. But

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 2>so I was talking to this guy, and I was like,

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.279
<v Speaker 2>this movie should have done much better. It's a great fit.

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes you're like, I know why that movie didn't open,

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you like that movie sucked and it opened

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 2>for all these other reasons. But this movie should have

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 2>made a lot more money. And he said, and we

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 2>were talking about the fact that people didn't know that

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>it was coming out. He said, well, I got to

0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 2>tell you something. As he worked at the studio, He's like,

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 2>studios will got a billboard directly down the street from where.

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 3>The actor or the director lives.

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 2>So that they think they spend a bunch of money

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 2>on the campaign and legacy. Oh there's my movie on

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 2>that billboard and they've done it nowhere else in the world.

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And so it's just a town that's just talking to

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 2>itself about itself all the time.

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and nobody knows what the fuck.

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. And I think that's the reason why you

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>see people mutilate themselves, particularly actors. You know, it's like, well,

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I have to be young. Yeah, well you kind of don't.

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Not only not only don't you, but it's impossible. Yeah,

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 2>time is coming for you. You look like a melted candle.

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Relax yourself, like like we would have just enjoyed seeing

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you be a human being. But now all we're fixated

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 2>on is this mutilation, this self mutilation, which you're not.

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, yeah, no, Now I'm going to start with

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>my testicles.

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, as long as we don't have to look at them.

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Well that what I feel is, first of all, they're

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:56.240
<v Speaker 1>mostly concealed.

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Secondly, this is just for you.

0:44:57.920 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 3>You're just doing this for me. This is some you time.

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 3>And it's so they're testicles.

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>If they bought it, who cares? Are you even gonna know?

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Do you watch have you ever seen that show? Watched?

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh? God, I can. I'm too squeamish. I've tried, and

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>then like I'm like, oh my god.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 2>It's it's just like an orgy of of like psychological

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what the right word is, like

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>just incredible psych Like it's like the psychological self injury

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 2>paired with the physical self injury.

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 3>It's one of those things that I would watch on

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 3>the road and you put it on, it's like a marathon,

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And then and these people that just you know, that

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 2>insane body dysmorphia and they are absolutely confident that like

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 2>having like a chin shaped like you know, like a

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 2>pip and apple or whatever, it's going to like change

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>their lives.

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 3>And it's a bummer man.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 2>And you really think that that show should just be

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 2>people come in to get mutilated, and then it's like

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>a bait and switch. You think you're gonna talk to

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 2>these plastic surgeons and then instead, like a psychologist just

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 2>comes in. You sit down and talk about yourself, not

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>the plastic. Lets talk about your mother. Yeah, yeah, let's

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 2>talk because it's all with your mother. Also have lips

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 2>like pneumatic tiahs. It's so it's crazy.

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>It is a little have you ever seen the show.

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 1>The kind of counterweight to that is the show on

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Channel four in Britain called Naked Attraction.

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I have, First of all, people who are listening, I

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 2>know you guys love Craig and he's a delightful and

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 2>very sophisticated mind.

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 3>But Europeans are insane. This show is insane.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 2>First of all, it's it's it's like see and then

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>also Americans are also insane because there's this Naked Attraction show.

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.439
<v Speaker 2>It's essentially mostly men. I guess there's men and women,

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.879
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of men women. You see three people,

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like a dating game, but you see

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:36.800
<v Speaker 2>three people.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 3>From the neck down.

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>They're fully no, they're revealed from the feet up, so

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it goes up the legs and then they're naked behind

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:44.439
<v Speaker 1>the screens and it's kind of like the dating game,

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and it goes up and then you see their knees

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:48.399
<v Speaker 1>and then you see there. You get all the way

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to the job, Get the janital, You get the job,

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>get the ganital, you get boobs, you go up to it. Yeah, well,

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>after after what you've you've been passed that.

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. I don't I don't want to have the steak

0:46:59.280 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 3>after I've had this.

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Straight to the.

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 2>But but I mean the American version of that is

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 2>naked and afraid, which you know, Americans have to make

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 2>it even more extreme. Like you in the safe studio,

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to get a bug up your whole,

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>but in America, we want you to get bitten by

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a scorpion directly at the center.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Of your taint. Well you see that.

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, Look, everyone's got their cank and I don't

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>know how you found out about mine, but that's okay.

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>So I like it center the center of center, which

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>is not it's not a huge area.

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 3>There's precisions, precision scorpions.

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like top gun.

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 3>They only exist in a very small area of the

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 3>South America.

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>This precision scorpion miniature Tom Cruise has to fly a

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 1>scorpion up your pats and exactly.

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 2>The right point in It's like Star Wars, State on target,

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 2>stay on target.

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, see, we're keeping a classy which I think.

0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what we were supposed to do today,

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 3>but I'm enjoy immensely.

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an agenda. They when I was starting

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, they said to me, what do you want

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to do. And I said, well, I just want to

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>talk to people I want to talk to Yeah. They

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>went all right, they said, but can you can you

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:12.800
<v Speaker 1>do a thing? I said, well, I'm not going to

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>do a thing.

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Don't you remember the robot. He's not going to do it.

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do the thing like I'm not going

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to do a kind of like name five cats. Yeah,

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.280
<v Speaker 1>like you know, let's you know, it's fucking BuzzFeed started

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that show, you know, six celebrities who are taller than.

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 2>It's also pretty much dead. I think it's like one

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 2>AI AI robot and a guy.

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>That have you got the EI on your phone?

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I refuse, And in that way you should feel you

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 3>have company. I'm I.

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I use technology as a tool, but I'm strangely becoming

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 2>more of a leddite as I get older, and I'm like,

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not letting it in and I have all the

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.359
<v Speaker 2>tracking things turned off on my phone and I don't

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 2>want to.

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh you use it.

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't use it. I downloaded a couple of days

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 1>ago chat GPT. Yeah, and I've been asking the questions

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.360
<v Speaker 1>about God, oh wow, it's fascinating.

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 3>So you're just trying to stump the chump as well.

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a little bit I'm trying to sort

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of perform a kind of weird my version of the

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Turing test on it. But I've been asking the questions

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>about the deity and about the idea of a god,

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's fascinating because really, what it is, I think,

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:17.720
<v Speaker 1>is just Google. It just googles things. It's it's Google.

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>You.

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 3>You could do it with your own face. It's just

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 3>gging a little harder than you.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just like it makes Google feel a little more intimate,

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's not really already.

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<v Speaker 2>Has like an AI driven kind of like a curated

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 2>or an assemblage result now, so like if you ask

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 2>a question, it used to be that you get pages,

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 2>but now what you get at the top is that

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Google looks at all the answers and then writes you

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<v Speaker 2>a compiled answer based on Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like that function, right, but but yeah, I

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>tell you what I know. It's in San Francis. You're

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:50.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about the I is the cabs with no drivers.

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, San Francisco is just that. I mean, it's wild.

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know we have them here too, we

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 2>have never here.

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're here. There.

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's la so there's like three

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 2>and they're spread out very very far and why But yeah,

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco is just going to be like you know that,

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 2>what's that? What's that movie? The Minority Report? Very soon

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 2>just people rise cars.

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:08.799
<v Speaker 4>But the.

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Was I was kind of like doing a bit about it,

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was talking to do you know Carrie Byron

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<v Speaker 1>from MythBusters?

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<v Speaker 3>But I know the show. Yes, she's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool and she's up in the city.

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 3>I think like the whole MythBusters team is up, most

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there, for my money, maybe the greatest show

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<v Speaker 1>ever on American.

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<v Speaker 3>Clas not agree with you?

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Is such a great, believable show. I don't know why.

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 3>And explosions, science, explosions and fun.

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, Well explosions you've ready to go.

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, That's that's what science plus explosions equals equals.

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Come on, kids, it was.

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>It was the greatest show. And I don't know. I mean,

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>my guess is pretty expensive, but it was a great show.

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, it was expensive.

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>And I don't even think I know the narrative, but

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the guys and his name is

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:53.839
<v Speaker 2>not in my hair right now, passed away.

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Great, Yeah, Grant got them. But Grant he built the

0:50:58.200 --> 0:50:59.319
<v Speaker 1>rule boat on my late night show.

0:50:59.360 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you know that?

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't know.

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.400
<v Speaker 1>That was a friend of mine and he said to

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.319
<v Speaker 1>me it was actually when Twitter was fun. And he said,

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 1>if you can get me one hundred thousand Twitter followers,

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll build you a robot for your late night show.

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:14.399
<v Speaker 3>See Twitter used to be great, right, So that was fun.

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 1>So I tweeted out, all right, we need Grant to

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 1>get one hundred thousand follows and twitters like forty minutes.

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>And he had even like gout it so and he

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:23.439
<v Speaker 1>had he was Robot.

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.879
<v Speaker 3>Wars guy and he built just so awesome and he used.

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 1>To commend every month and maintain him.

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 3>I love.

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Twitter was also a place where you could just if

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 2>you rolled over the middle of the night and you

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 2>were bored, you could write a fart joke and everybody

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 2>would laugh at your fart joke.

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 3>It used to be a really, really fun place to

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 3>just screw around. Yeah, that's dead. I think we'll have

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:43.280
<v Speaker 3>msk ruins everything.

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he can't. Well, I'll tell you what. That fucking

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:50.719
<v Speaker 1>truck that's that's bullshit. I don't care like that's I

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.320
<v Speaker 1>do it. Lou Black I saw doing.

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Run do a bit about it.

0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like a boat. You know, it looks like an

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 2>amphibious car as what that thing looks.

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, it went straight to stonewashed Dannim in like

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds, you know what I mean.

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 3>It was like, oh my god, yescause it was emerging

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:09.719
<v Speaker 3>from the assembly line.

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like it went straight cool de Laurian, Oh cool

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Lan immediate.

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Glorian's kind of done the reverse reach around and now

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 1>it's almost ironically cool. But I mean, maybe in twenty

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>five years Elon Musk goes to jail for trying to

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 1>keep his company up by sailing cocaine, then you might

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>have a story.

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 3>That could be pretty cool. I mean, I wouldn't I

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't rule it out.

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Anyway, I was talking to carry Byron in San

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Francisco and I was talking about the driverless car and

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I said I was kind of like being shitty about it,

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and she went, let me tell you something. I use

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 1>them all the time.

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of people do. I'm not going to

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:44.760
<v Speaker 3>do that, but yeah, I said.

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to do it. She said, you know what,

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I've never got in a driverless car and had the

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>guy hand on me asked me for my number. Be creepy?

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Is he getting near my house?

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:52.800
<v Speaker 3>All that stuff?

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Is he intoxicated? This place smells like the car smells

0:52:56.200 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 2>like weed or listening to nekel Back. I can't can't

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:00.800
<v Speaker 2>be trusted.

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Huba steink. This This is not right. Huba stank.

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I mean I kind of get it.

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 1>And then I said, but they're tracking you in the

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>in the car.

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:13.879
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's too late. We're tracked.

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing.

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing that you and I and our curmudgeonly

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>anti technology positions need to take in. And really just

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.240
<v Speaker 2>we know a lot of we're boned. They've been tracking

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 2>us for a really long time now. And the whole

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 2>idea that you're going to get off the grid is

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>just it's it's past, man. That opportunity is over.

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 1>The good thing is that all of the behavior that

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I exhibited, the better off grid is well in the

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>rear view mirror.

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 2>For me, anyway, Like if they want to, God, you

0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 2>got your dirt done before cell phone camp was like

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 2>by n ninety two, I was like, you can watch

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:44.839
<v Speaker 2>me whatever you want.

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>All I'm doing is going to whole food.

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Man, you want to dig up some records of what

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I've done, You're gonna do a library and look at

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 2>a micro first, right.

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right. You're going to have to go to the

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Glasgow Police Department and talk, you know, and give cash

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>money to a target.

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 2>You got know the doing decimal system to look up

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.240
<v Speaker 2>the stuff I did back in the eighties.

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, the truth is though I wasn't I mean, it

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even I was doing anything. It was just embarrassing, shitty,

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>fall down drunk behavior. Yeah, I waiting for kids.

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Know that.

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, you you do something stupid or you fail

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.120
<v Speaker 1>as a stand up right when you've got it. If

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you want to be a stand up, you have to fail.

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>It's part of the Process's.

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 2>There's no way around it, right, It is part of it.

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean like literally, to get funny, you must bomb you, yes,

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:28.319
<v Speaker 2>you must yes.

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And now that I mean bombing is is kind of

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.359
<v Speaker 1>like it's so an integral part of the process. If

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you remove that and they kind of have to, or

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 1>if you bomb and it stays and around forever.

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Ever forever, or or just the guys that are doing

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 2>those like stupid lazy, bad jokes, you know, the ones

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:50.840
<v Speaker 2>that like every well not every because a lot of

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.120
<v Speaker 2>young comedians are trying to lean into intellectualism or trying

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 2>to be original. But the guys that are just doing

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the racist stuff for the sex oft stuff, the fart stuff,

0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, and and ed is memorial forever, and then

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, now you're thirty, you're like, well that guy

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:04.400
<v Speaker 2>was an asshole. Well you know what, that's the That's

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:05.680
<v Speaker 2>the only guy anyone's ever going to know.

0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I feel about writing books though, because

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I wrote I've written some stuff, and I know you've

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 1>written two books. I've read them both, and yeah, the

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:19.399
<v Speaker 1>that I wrote some stuff down when I was younger

0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and I look at.

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 3>It now, I go, yeah, it's funny. I don't know

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:24.759
<v Speaker 3>that I and I haven't looked at my stuff in

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 3>a long time.

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:27.319
<v Speaker 2>But because I was thinking about republishing my first book,

0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:28.880
<v Speaker 2>like the rits just reverted to me and I'll say,

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll do an maybe I'll turn into it. Oh

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 2>you look like you know, like rewrite it and re

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.719
<v Speaker 2>release it, right, And I was like, I don't think

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I have anything there that like I would cringe over.

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.799
<v Speaker 2>There's just like a lot of like just simplistic thinking.

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was a long time ago, right Like

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I was just like not that sophisticated, do you know

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:47.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a snapshow who you are in the moment. I

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>mean the problem is if if you get too many

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:52.799
<v Speaker 1>snapshots that it starts to look like that's who you are,

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:55.920
<v Speaker 1>right right? You know if I write a book when

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty years old and then it's sixty two nearly,

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel differently.

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you've you've experienced a bunch of stuff. You

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 3>are different. You are a different person. You're a different

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:07.320
<v Speaker 3>assembly of cells.

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.319
<v Speaker 1>But you know what one's the real one?

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And then you got the problem of well time does

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:12.720
<v Speaker 1>it fold?

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Or this is a question for the AI in your phone?

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 3>This is a question chat?

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you wait, chat time?

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Phone? You were you were?

0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 2>You were in the prime cycle of like introspection, right

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 2>like this is the part of your life where you

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.399
<v Speaker 2>start thinking about what does it all mean? Oh? Yeah,

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to ask you a big question since

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 2>this is apparently a big question hour did you look

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:36.440
<v Speaker 2>at the web telescope.

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Pictures like the pictures of space?

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 2>That really fucked me up. Like that was that was

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the thing that really put me into what does it

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:45.880
<v Speaker 2>all mean? Headspace for quite a bit of time, because

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:47.240
<v Speaker 2>there were they were beautiful.

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:47.920
<v Speaker 3>They were like the.

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Most kind of detailed pictures of space we've ever seen.

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 2>And there was one of them, and it's got something

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 2>like three hundred thousand galaxies in this one image right right,

0:56:58.120 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and they're pointing them out to you, these little worlds,

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:02.840
<v Speaker 2>these old spirals, different colors, different shapes, different sizes, and

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.719
<v Speaker 2>they said, so, within this one photo, there are three

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand galaxies like our galaxy that are visible. And

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 2>this is the size this area of space is one

0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 2>grain of sand held at arm's length, right, That's how

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 2>much we're seeing those many galaxies in that part of space.

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 3>And then of course there's those infinite grains of sand.

0:57:22.040 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 2>We could be looking at any part of space and

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 2>see another three hundred thousand galaxies filled of billions of stars.

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 1>It could not be there because it's taken so much

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>time for the light to get here. You're million years.

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.959
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and so like, I mean, so then this little

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 2>puny computer that's telling you about whether God exists, I mean, this.

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Is just wow, some kind of stage play you do.

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 1>You do come with me? And this is this is

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a good question because I watched with.

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 3>That's why you should drink lots of drink to Grock.

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 1>But here's the But here's the thing. I when one

0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of my boys was about ten years old. You watch

0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of YouTube videos at the universe and you know,

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>lego stuff. So I'm not in this universe thing and

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it was only usual. I can't remember what it was,

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:07.480
<v Speaker 1>but it was. It was as you describe. You know

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 1>about the trillions and billions and things, but mostly what

0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.680
<v Speaker 1>our the observable universe is is nothing.

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 3>It's just emptiness, right, black hole.

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like so as much mass as you can see,

0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 2>but within between that mass is just nothingness, infinite nothing,

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:24.440
<v Speaker 2>that's infinite.

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Nothing.

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I have to lie down.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the best I've ever felt in meditation or

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<v Speaker 1>in any kind of God contemplation, or quietly in a church,

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<v Speaker 1>or in a or in a field, or or in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a moment of face down in a damp puddle,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, whatever thing is when the scorpion is

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<v Speaker 1>the right center of the day, whenever you it's always

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<v Speaker 1>about silence. And then I think most of the universe

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<v Speaker 1>is silence. And there's a quote in a there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a book Bible. There's a lot of bad stuff in it,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little weird stuff in it, but there's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting quote and it says, be still and know that

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<v Speaker 1>I am God. And I think that the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a god, I'm not talking about angry Santo in a

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<v Speaker 1>cloud and after you die you get you know, a prize.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sod your handed a ridiculous, you know, and like

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<v Speaker 1>here's your cloud and here's your place where you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like walk around wearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Slacks slacks in a meadow with your family assembled around here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's so beyond fucking ludicrous, it's insulting. The

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't have any kind of grip on

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of of an after life, but the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the silence exists infinitely, I find that quite comforting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I I can see how you would.

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<v Speaker 2>It could also really just kind of rock your world,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on you know, your framework.

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<v Speaker 3>I think two things.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the thing I've become very comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>knowing is that I am never going to know. I

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<v Speaker 2>can make some decisions I can hold on to some perceptions,

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<v Speaker 2>but that the universe. Because one thing I thought a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about after the web seeing those web photos was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>then what's beyond that and what's beyond that and what's

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that?

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<v Speaker 3>And that is just ungroppable to the human mind. It

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<v Speaker 3>can't be groped.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just no way just understood right like that, there's

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<v Speaker 2>but like comprehensively understood, like there's just no way, which

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<v Speaker 2>is why we've created a guy and this guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>peering down over the side of our fish bowl looking

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<v Speaker 2>at us and you know, fucking us up and ruining things,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise, if you think about the vast expanse of space,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it just goes on forever, and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>reach beyond that with your mind and it cannot be reached.

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<v Speaker 1>Or, as Saint Augustine of Hippo said, trying to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the mind of God is like trying to pour the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean into a cup.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not it's just to do the creatures, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And we're pretty we're more advance than we've ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine we'll advance further if we don't destroy this

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<v Speaker 2>place and blow ourselves out.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen Oppenheimer.

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<v Speaker 3>I have I have pretty hilarious God a laugh a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Although you know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy character, he could lose a little way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Jeff Peterson, like, oh my god, God. And even

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<v Speaker 3>in the movie they say to him something I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think in real life he was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who just lived on tobacco and you know, meditating

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<v Speaker 2>on the determination of human life.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on the old Late Night Show and he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's lovely. He's such a nice guy, a nice guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very envious of his.

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<v Speaker 3>Really thoughtful actor.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him, I went to Uh, there's an Irish

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<v Speaker 2>there's like an Irish Oscars.

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<v Speaker 3>Every year it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Called the It's called God because your Scott is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna let you touch it, but you're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 2>Irish people do love they love this buds though. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>they love the spuds and uh. It's called the Oscar

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<v Speaker 2>Wild Awards and they have it at Bad Robot in

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Monica every year and they kind of honor all

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<v Speaker 2>the Irish, you know, the different Irish artists that have

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<v Speaker 2>been nominated. And this was a big year for Irish artists.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there were a lot of nominees and he

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<v Speaker 2>was there at the killing, was there at the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's just about the most delightful guy. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>just exudes. I mean, talk about a guy who I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what he does in his private time, but

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<v Speaker 2>he looks like he meditates for six hours day.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the most serene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cool guy, He's got something for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you know, I just said hi to him

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<v Speaker 2>for a beat, and you know he's I'm sure, being

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<v Speaker 2>dragged in every single direction. This what I love about

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<v Speaker 2>Oscars because almost everybody in the town is no nomination, nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>no way, in no way they related to what's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>happen on Oscar. But there's twittering around town in a skirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you're not nominated for shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Go home? Why are you dressed up on a Tuesday

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<v Speaker 3>at go back? Go home, have a TV dinner and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, do you know what I think?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I remember once doing a corporate gig and

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<v Speaker 1>eating the second most successful car salesman in the Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Rapids area.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot this is like the fucking Oscars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's exactly like the os because everyone gets

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up, gets in the stupid cars. And walks in

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<v Speaker 1>and who is going to be the greatest the second

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<v Speaker 1>art car salesman in the Grand Rapids area, A fucking.

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<v Speaker 3>Oscars is exactly the relations gym. Well done. You are

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<v Speaker 3>an inspiration runner up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is for all the little fat kids out there

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<v Speaker 1>that wanted to sell automobiles and didn't know if they.

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<v Speaker 3>Can follow your dream. For all of you out there

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<v Speaker 3>who never believed in me, you can suck it. You

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<v Speaker 3>suck it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we've been talking for way too long

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<v Speaker 1>about Oh no, yeah, will you come bined and do

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<v Speaker 1>another one?

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<v Speaker 3>I love talking to you that much. I love talking

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<v Speaker 3>to you. What a delight you are just great, You're great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great to see you in person.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to see you. And and good luck with

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<v Speaker 1>the cocktails. Criminal man, I came in here to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about criminal minds at my cocktail company, and we

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<v Speaker 2>just talked about the vast expanse, the unknowable, unknowable nature

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<v Speaker 2>of God and the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fun do you think it is?

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<v Speaker 3>And after you listen to this episode, you will

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<v Speaker 2>Need a drink to philosophy dot com get and I

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<v Speaker 2>get it.