1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Ron and folks, the cars twelve to fourteen years old. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: How can you ask for a recall on something that's 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: rusted out and been through ten or more winters, especially 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: in the harsh Midwest where they have this thing called 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: salt that melts snow and ice. The car Doctor, you know, 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: my experience has been the after market catcher typically three 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: quarters the size of the original equipment cat I mean 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: they're cheaper. There's a reason why they're cheaper. It's the 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: same material, there's just less of it. Welcome to the 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: in the garage. Orders are open, but I am here 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: to take your calls. At eight five and now he 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: is running, starts breading the new I'm leaving today. I 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: want to be a part of it. New York, New York. 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Ron and a Hey, how far can I ride on 19 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: a flat tire? That was the question at the shop 20 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: this week. Hello and welcome ron Ani in the Car Doctor. 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Here was always at eight five five five zero nine 22 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: nine zero zero, real honest to god phone call. Folk 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: call comes into the shop. Hey, I've got a flat tire. 24 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: If I put air in it, how far can I go? 25 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: I thought about it, and I said, I really need 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: a good answer for this, because I've got to like 27 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: nip this in the bud, because if this is somebody 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: that thinks they can drive around on a flat I've 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: got to give them something to think about it. My 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: second question was what color of my eyes? And they 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: said I don't know, and I said, well, that's right. 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: You haven't seen my eyes and I haven't seen your tire, 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: and that's why either one of us knows what answer 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: to give. So the safe answer is fix the tire 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: and get a toad, which they did. But it brought 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: up an interesting point in my mind, and that how 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: many of you are capable and willing and able and 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: ready to deal with flat tires, spare tires? Where are they? 39 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: What kind of jack equipment is in the vehicle? And 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: it made me think I have to start banging the 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: drum again. With regards to young drivers, we had a 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: young driver come into the shop this week. She was 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: overdue for her oil change. She came in because the 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: license plate light bulb was out. And that's great, I 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: told her. I said, I'm really glad that you were 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: paying attention for that, But you know, the oil change 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: is gone late. And she wasn't even aware of where 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: the sticker was or what it meant, and nobody had 49 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: ever taken the time to explain it to her. And 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: that's when I realized. Between that phone call and her 51 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: showing up, I said, what would happen if you got 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: a flat? Would you know how to deal with it? 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: She thought about it, eighteen years old, stuck on the 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: side of the road. No, I wouldn't. Nobody's ever told 55 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: me how to deal with that either, And it made 56 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: me think that it's really time for the experience generation, 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: us older folks. We've got to really start teaching the kids. Listen. 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: We know we can't teach them to work on cars 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: the way my generation did and the generations before and 60 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: a little bit after, but we've got to teach them 61 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: how to change flats. I told her the story that 62 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: when my kids all got their driver's license, everybody first 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: day out, they went down, they got their license, they 64 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: came back used cars. I'm ready to go good put 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: the air out of one tire. When you learn how 66 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: to change that, I'll let you go out tonight. And 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: that's a true story. That's how all my girls, all 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: my girls know how to change a flat tire, and um, 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: that's something they've never forgotten. And I'm glad to say 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: that I was able to do that for them. Anyway, 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: something to think about. Just be aware of flat tires 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: and how to deal with uh, flat tires and spares 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: and never have to ask the question how long can 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: I ride on a flat? Probably not too far anyway. 75 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's one thing we want to do is 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: we want to mention the fact and welcome to the 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Family w R c R A M seventeen 78 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: hundred in Ramapo, New York. We're glad to have them. 79 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: They are the voice of the Hudson Valley and we're 80 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: happy and proud to be on them here now in 81 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: the New York City area, in the Tri state area 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: is a growing part of the Car Doctor family. And 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: M once again a radio station that gets it. And 84 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: we're glad to add them to the list. And we're 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: glad for our listeners in New York. And the Car 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Doctor is back. Thank you. Let's get over and open 87 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: the garage doors, which I know is what everybody is 88 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: waiting for. Let's kick them open and go talk to 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: Mike Expedition with some problems in an A C code. Mike, 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: you're wrong with the car, doctor, baby, How can I help? Well, 91 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: it's I've got a toad telling me that I'm lean 92 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: on bank wine. Um, I just got done replacing the 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: engine on. I have the engine replaced. Backyard mechanic guy, 94 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: that's all right, So so what You've got a P 95 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: zero one seven one fault code on the left side, 96 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: I think, so all right? And nothing no other fault 97 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: codes in the system. No other fault codes. Okay, but 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: the air conditioner compressor quick, we're at the exact same time. 99 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know if that's just coincidence or maybe there's 100 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: a wire harness that isn't connected. Yeah, I mean the 101 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: answer and the answer to all of that is possibly maybe. Sure. Um, 102 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: besides the fault code, does anybody scan this? Can you 103 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: tell me what any sort of fuel trim readings are? 104 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: Do we have any answers there? No, I haven't had it. 105 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Stand Basically, think of it like this, You've got a 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: V eight engine. Right, you've got to four cylinders under 107 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: the hood, all right. And the way the computer looks 108 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: at it on this car as it looks at the 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: left side and the right side, so it's setting a 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: fault code for P zero one one until you know 111 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: what the right side is doing. It's it's really not 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: a safe bet to start diagnosing anything. You ever get sick, Mike, Well, 113 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: but you do, right, I mean, you get a sore 114 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: plade of fever. You ever noticed, like a couple of 115 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: days before, you're just not feeling right, and it slowly 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: creeps up on you and you kind of say to yourself, 117 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't feel too good. I better get the better 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: early tonight, or I better stop doing this or doing 119 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: that and start taking care of myself. That's your brain, 120 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: that's your that's your body computer saying, hey, we're about 121 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: to set a fault code. You gotta be ready. The 122 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: car computer does the same thing. It looks at the 123 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: fuel trim, left side, right side. The left side already 124 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: has the aches and pains. It's set the code if 125 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: the right side has aches and pains. But it's a 126 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: little slow and catching up. It's not as fast. It 127 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: hasn't set the P zero one four fold code yet, 128 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: which if it's a lean code, that's what it's gonna be. 129 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: All right. Now, if you look at fuel trim and 130 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: the left side fuel trim is plus and the right 131 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: side or bank two is zero, then we've got a 132 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: left side fault. And then we can start to think 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: about oxygen centers. We can start to think about vacuum 134 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: leaks related to the left side and the left side 135 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: only or bank one only, whichever side it is, and 136 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: and and kind of pursue it that way. So before 137 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: we start jumping round and looking at wiring and maybe 138 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: making it worse. Do you have access to a scan tool? Um? 139 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: I just have the one that it's part of my tuner. Okay? 140 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Does it? Does it give you fuel trim readings? No? 141 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: It does not. Just spend a hundred bucks by a 142 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: scantal cheap enough all right, and let me explain to 143 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: you what you're looking for, all right? What do you 144 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: do for a living mike? Uh? Aircraft? Okay? So, so 145 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: so you understand technical stuff. If zero is a balanced 146 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: their fuel mixture, all right, If they have to add 147 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: fuel to the mixture because it's lean, you're gonna see 148 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: a positive number. If they have to take fuel away 149 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: because it's running rich, it's a negative number. There is 150 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: short term fuel trim, what's happened right here. Now, there's 151 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: long term fuel trim, which is history. It's what happened 152 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: over a certain time period, and it varies by vehicle 153 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: manufacturer and model here. So what you're looking for is 154 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: you want to put a scanner on it. You want 155 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: to look at fuel trim. You want to look at 156 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: bank one bank too. You want to see fuel trims 157 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: somewhere zero plus or minus ten, anything extreme beyond that, 158 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: that'll tell us where to go. If you can do 159 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: that this week, call me back next week. I'll be 160 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: glad to help you further. All right, sir, if you 161 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: need help during the week, let me point this out 162 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: to If you do need help during the week and 163 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: you want to shoot me an email Ron at Car 164 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: Doctor show dot com. Al Right, sir, all right, thank you, 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Take good care. Let's get on over 166 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: and talk to Jean Murie, Hartford, Connecticut Online to Jeane Murray, 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Hi? 168 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: Are you? I called you the other day because I 169 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: was having a problem with the A B S and 170 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: rape flights on my two thousand and three Chetty S 171 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: four cylinder engine. Okay, um, answer and looked up what 172 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the problem might be and replace the modular Okay, the 173 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: A B S controller with all the brake lines going 174 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: into it. Yes, okay, did you scan any of this? 175 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Did you scan any of this for fault codes? Jean Murray? Okay, 176 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, we're rolling the dice, go ahead. Okay, we 177 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: didn't know if we should the brakes. Well, you're gonna 178 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: have to bleed the brakes. Well did you change did 179 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: you change the entire assembly disconnecting the lines or did 180 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: you just try and change the electronic portion that we 181 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: just connected the battery cable and then in Now, if 182 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: this was you did the electronic side, then the hydraulic 183 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: portion of the brakes aren't affected. They are they're as 184 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: good as they are now as they were before you 185 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: replaced what you replaced. Okay, all right, right, so is 186 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: the lights? Are the lights still on? Okay? And your 187 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: question to me, okay, so was your question to me 188 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: just do you need to bleed the brakes? Y? Yeah? No, 189 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: then if if if if you didn't touch the hydraulics. 190 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: If you didn't open the hydraul As far as if 191 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: you didn't open the hydraulics, then you're fine right where 192 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: you are, all right, Yeah, you're very welcome. I'm running 193 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: Any in the Car Doctor zero zero zero. By the way, 194 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: if you're looking for information about this radio show, it's 195 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: Car Doctors Show dot com. You'll find a wide list 196 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: of websites there, among them I heart and iTunes dot 197 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: com for podcasts of this radio show and subscription and um, 198 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Glad to be here. Second, Hey, 199 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're Any in the Car Doctor. The phone 200 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: number is eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. 201 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Call in, get your car question answered. Don't be afraid 202 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: of your car. Let me help you deal with it 203 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: and understand that at a level that makes you comfortable. 204 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: Five zero nine nine zero zero. Let's do a quick 205 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: piece of email before we go back to the busy phones. 206 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Ron I just left my teen jeep Grand Cherokee at 207 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: the dealer for a P zero five code and any 208 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: recalls and re flashes it may need. The service writer said. 209 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: The reflashes are twenty dollars each because I'm out of 210 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: warranty at forty tho miles and I need six. Should 211 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: they charge for an improvement that that my car should 212 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: have from the factory? Or Am I wrong to think 213 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: that way? Thanks? Tom, I think you're wrong to think 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: that way, Tom, and I'll tell you why. Now you know, 215 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: maybe forty thou miles isn't a whole lot to you, 216 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: but the car is one. Let's see to a year. 217 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: It's still a lot of warranty. That's kind of weird though. 218 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: I wonder if the reflashes. My question would have to 219 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: be are the reflashes emissions related? And I'm wondering where 220 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: that falls under what jurisdiction because I believe there's an 221 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: emission compliance warranty here as well, and I would be 222 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: mindful of that. But you have to think of it 223 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: as a software improvement. Now, you buy Windows and they 224 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: don't charge you for downloads, and they guarantee it, I 225 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: guess for the life of the program or until the 226 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: program has to be replaced. But that's at a different level. 227 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: Software refleshes are a modification, uh that may or may 228 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: not affect performance, but maybe there for another reason. So 229 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: unless you know what those recalls actually are. Four I 230 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: can't say that they're right or wrong for charging it. 231 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: I the point you really need to look at here 232 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: is what are the refleshes for um? And they may 233 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: not know. They may just say, hey, there's a reflesh 234 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: for this or a reflesh for that, and the question 235 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: becomes why you need six. The part that bothers me 236 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: about this email I've got to tell you, Tom, is 237 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: that they need six because usually one supersedes and overrides 238 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: the other. I have not seen unless they're saying six 239 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: separate components, six separate dules, which is very possible. So 240 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: I think part of the problem here I would have 241 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: with this is if you purchased the vehicle there, it's 242 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: if you're looking to build goodwill. I won't say that 243 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: they should do it for free, but I think they should. Um. 244 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: I think they should cut you some slack here on 245 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: the price because it's easy enough for them to do. 246 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: It's something they do part and parcel of each and 247 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: every day. Good question for a warranty for a relationship 248 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: builder here, Tom, I would go back and talk to 249 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: them and UM see if maybe perhaps you can kind 250 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: of talk your way into what they do something for 251 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: you on a you know, listen, I get my car 252 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: service here and I'd like to continue to do so. 253 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Can when you meet me halfway and give me it 254 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: for a half price? See what that doesn't? Email me 255 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: again Ron at car doctor show dot com. Let's go 256 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: back to the phone. Let's go over to Glorious Sacramento, California, 257 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: Honda Civic and some questions about fuel economy. Gloria, you're 258 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: around with the car doctor. How can I help at 259 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero? Well, I I've only been driving 260 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: this Honda Civic. It's a two ten and I've only 261 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: been driving it for two weeks. And I specifically asked 262 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: for a four cylinder. Uh, and it's got a one 263 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: point eight leader engine. It's an automatic. I'm really disappointed 264 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: in the gas mileage because I'm only I'm only getting 265 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: twenty miles to the gallon. I mean everything else, the 266 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: air filter, the depressure in the air, the tires, it's 267 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: all good. So I'm really needing to know what is 268 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: it then that determines the miles per gallon in the 269 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: city on a car. Well, the way they come up 270 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: with the CAFE ratings of the corporate average fuel economy 271 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: is they will run a test cycle. And they basically, 272 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: they being the federal government and the agency the controls 273 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: this rating, they will take a an average sampling of 274 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: how people drive and decide that this person goes here 275 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: and this person goes there, and this is gonna be 276 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: a city loop, and this is gonna be a highway loop, 277 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: and we're going to combine that. And here's the differences. 278 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: And you know, this one is city rating, this is 279 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: the highway rating, and so on. What determines that And 280 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: the engine is a lot of factors. It's tire pressure, 281 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: it's filters, it's it's general maintenances, general condition of the car. 282 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: But you will typically find a ten to fifteen percent 283 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: drop off from cafe rating to actual mileage around town. 284 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: But one of the things I want to point out 285 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: is my first question in this type of scenario, what 286 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: kind of driving do you do? You know? Are you 287 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: are you mostly stop and go or just yeah, it's 288 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: always in the city. Uh, I hardly ever go more 289 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: than five miles away from where I live. But yeah, 290 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: it's stopped and go all of the time. And and 291 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: that's not the cafe rating. And you want to know why, 292 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: because if they did cafe rating based on the person 293 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: that goes five miles to the market and back and 294 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: six miles this way and back and four miles that 295 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: way and back, the cafe ratings would be lower, and 296 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: nobody would buy the car because the miles per gallon 297 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: would be less. So when they say when they told 298 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: me miles per gallon, were they kind of like including 299 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: three driving in that, Well, it depends on who they 300 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: is and what their number is. There there is a 301 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: way you can go out on the web in Google 302 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: search Honda Civic Cafe ratings, Corporate average fuel economy ratings, 303 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: and that will give you the government mandated listening and 304 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: ratings for what that car should be. Now you just 305 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: you just purchased this car, Gloria, I've only been trying 306 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: ving it for a little over two weeks. Okay, so 307 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: it's it's five years old at this point. Okay, so 308 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: you know it's a five year old car. The first 309 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: question you want to come back to is, uh, you know, 310 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: what sort of maintenance has it had at at a 311 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen thousand miles, it's not factory fresh anymore. 312 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: And if the person that you purchased it from primarily 313 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: did oil changes and that was it you know, a 314 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: lot of things can be factored in. When was the 315 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: last time the fuel system had maint instead of ever 316 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: have a carbon cleaning? You know, cars grow, older cars, 317 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: cars from a dealership, a list of things that have 318 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: been done to it. K you know, it's it's it's 319 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Remember the dealership is there to sell it to you. 320 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: Now now you know, it's like, hey, listen, they're trying 321 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: to make a living and there, you know, it's it's so, 322 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, my questions are you know, and I don't 323 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: find twenty although twenty is a little low for a civic, 324 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: but I'm thinking it's the combination of your driving style 325 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: and frankly, when that car was cafe tested back in 326 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: two thousand eight and nine before it was sold, as 327 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: we we were into an entirely different formulation of gasoline 328 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: at that point, and and that that plays a factor too. So, 329 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, all being considered, I think the way I 330 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: would tell you to approach this is, do you have 331 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: a mechanic that you trust? Yes, then it's time to 332 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: go in and talk to him and have that cup 333 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: of coffee conversation and say, look, you know, can we 334 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: catch up on maintenance. Can we make sure it had 335 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: a ninety mile service. Can we do a fuel system 336 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: cleaning where we you know, blast away at carbon deposits 337 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: and and clean the intake tracks and things like that, 338 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: And can we make sure all the filters and the 339 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: tire pressure is done and check the alignment and things 340 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: like that. And then just for giggles, take it out 341 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: on the highway and take it out for a little 342 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: bit of a longer ride, go somewhere for a half hour, 343 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: or try to put a hundred miles on it and 344 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: check your miles per gallon and I could almost guarantee 345 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: you it's gonna come up, and that's gonna make a 346 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: huge difference. Glory. I appreciate the call zero nine zero 347 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor back right after this welcome back, 348 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: we're on an in the car doctor here eight five 349 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero, blasting out loud and 350 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: clear and happy to be here on all of these 351 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: card doctor of Phil. It's especially w R C R A. M. SEV. Rockland. 352 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: We're glad to be include them in the error growing 353 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor family of affiliates across this great country of ours, 354 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 1: and that we're happy to be able to be here 355 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: and talk to everybody in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut 356 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: and so on. So it's good to be back real quick. 357 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: I want to flash back myself, no pun intended to 358 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: grand Cherokee email. As I sat here thinking about it 359 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: over the pause. I think Tom's getting cheated, and I'll 360 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: tell you why. Because anything PCM Powertrain Control Module or 361 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: TCM trans Control module, anything emission related is covered under 362 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: eight year, eighty thousand mile warranty. So depending upon what 363 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: modules are being flashed, and I don't know that they 364 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: can disseminate between the two at what level. I think 365 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: the dealer here is trying to pick salt at or yeah, 366 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: he's trying to pick apart salt and pepper with boxing 367 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: gloves on. And I think he's trying to make it 368 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: difficult and make a couple of bucks where it doesn't 369 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: necessarily have to and them. I hate to portray it 370 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: in that light, but just something there doesn't sit with me. 371 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: That on a one year old vehicle, whatever happened to 372 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: bump or to bump or coverage and um, something doesn't 373 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: sound right. Tom. I'd go back and I talked to somebody. 374 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: I'd look for somebody higher up and get a better answer, 375 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: because that one that one kind of stinks. Hey, by 376 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: the way, we're giving away I should point that we're 377 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: giving way an LMC truck prize. This our twenty five 378 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: dollar gift card. It's either gonna be with a hat 379 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: or a T shirt. It's kind of a grab bag 380 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: for anyone that calls in and fast Harry awards them 381 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: to LMC truck. If you want more information, get out 382 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: the LMC truck dot com. They're the guys if you 383 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: got a Chevy of Ford or a Dodge vehicle, truck 384 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: or suv, anything from the late forties on up. Um 385 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: they're the guys to go to if you're looking to 386 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: restore something or help fix up your modern ride. LMC 387 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: truck dot Com. Let's get over to the phones. Let's 388 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Robert Escape in an airbag problem. Robert, 389 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. You're on at zero 390 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Thank you, you're welcome, sir. What's up? Well, 391 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: I aprobably came on UM got a call from the 392 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: deal is saying that some one at some point installed 393 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: an inhibitor sense uh that actually blocked the sense to 394 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: the APEX so for four years I've been driving around 395 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: with no annex. Whoa, okay, well wait a minute, now, 396 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: did you buy this new? Reused? I bought it new, 397 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: and in February my son did have an accident in 398 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: um July two ten. Okay, we took it into be repaired, 399 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: which was substantial under insurance. Was it was under insurance? Okay? 400 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: All right? And and now it's now you're being told 401 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: that the airbag system wasn't repaired properly. Right, all right? 402 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: I talked to my insurance company. Oh okay, I would 403 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: after all this time, it would still be well, I 404 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: think you listen, I think the liab Let me ask 405 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: you the question this way, or say it this way, Robert, 406 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: God forbid that vehicle got into another accident a year 407 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: later and somebody was killed because the airbag didn't go off. 408 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: How hard would you push for it? Then? Yes, I'd 409 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: be a little annoyed here. I'd be very upset that. 410 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: And I have to say that technician at the dealer 411 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: was seemed to be incredulous about it. Right. I found 412 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: something like that, you know, because somebody didn't do their job. 413 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: And this is exactly what I talk about when I 414 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: say an ornobile is a two to three ton missile 415 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: going down the road at sixty. And if somebody doesn't 416 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: do their job right, somebody does. Here's a case where 417 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: somebody not only didn't do their job right, they went 418 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: out of their way to do it wrong. And and 419 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: they're playing with why would why would they even do 420 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: that if they're doing the work anyway? Yeah, you know, 421 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Listen, why why do people do the 422 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: things they do? Um? I don't. I don't have that answer, 423 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: and I don't think I should go into it. This 424 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: is a car show, but although aught to repair as 425 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: a study in human nature. And I say that all 426 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: the time too. I would I would be talking to 427 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: my insurance company and I would ask for the adjuster 428 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: to you know, they can go back in their files. 429 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that the majority of the way I 430 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: understand it in New Jersey and the majority of insurance 431 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: repairs that they're always talking about lifetime guarantees on the 432 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: repair work, depending upon how the insurance company has their 433 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: connection built in with the repair facility. I'm gonna bet 434 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: dollars to donuts it's pretty much the same way in 435 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: New York. So I think the insurance companies on the 436 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: hook for this one, and I think you're I think 437 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: your conversation has to be with regards to the liability 438 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and asked and asked them when they start pushing you off. Hey, listen, 439 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm calling up because I wanted fixed. I'm not calling 440 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: you up saying somebody died as a result of the 441 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: negligence of the body shop you guys sent me to. Right, 442 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: all right, you know, yeah, let me know what let 443 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: me know what happens here, because you can tell them 444 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: you were talking to me, and if we need to 445 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: discuss this on air, we sure in because that's there's 446 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: a huge liability factor here. There's a huge liability problem here. 447 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: They're playing with somebody's life. Okay, alright, you're very welcome, Robert. 448 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Yeah, that's hey, listen, you know 449 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: what I always say, The liability for repair is on 450 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: the repair facility and something like that. As somebody bypassed 451 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: an air bag system. If somebody modifies anything on a 452 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: car without good reason or something against the law, because 453 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: modifying an air bag system isn't legal, you're playing with 454 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: somebody's life here. You're not allowed to defeat the system. 455 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: That's why You'll notice people will call me up and say, hey, Ron, 456 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: can I take this out? Can I disable the anti theft? 457 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: Can I bite Listen? There's a lot of ways to 458 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: do a lot of things. There's certain things I won't 459 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: talk about, and that's one of them. And you know, 460 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: I go back to it will lighten up the moment. 461 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: I go back to when I was teaching and you know, 462 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: a million years ago in another lifetime, and I was 463 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: teaching the kids how to how igniscience is them's worked 464 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: true story, and I figured the best way to teach 465 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: and now as a young school teacher at the time 466 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: and didn't really make the connection. I I taught them 467 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: how to bypass the ignition switch on hot wire the car, 468 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: thinking they would then realize that purple is hot you know, 469 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: red is red is switched power and so on, and 470 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, this would be a really good lesson, like 471 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: this would stick. Unfortunately it did because three days later 472 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: one of the kids showed up with his g t O. 473 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: That shows you how long ago this was. And I said, 474 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: I thought you were grounded. Your dad took the car 475 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: away from you. He goes, yeah, he took the keys, 476 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: he didn't take the car so I'd have a conversation 477 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: with him and his father and apologize and promise I 478 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: would never do that again. So I'll always be mindful 479 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: about how you say things and what you talk about 480 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: with regards to cars. It was it was a rather 481 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 1: funny moment that I remember from thirty five years ago. Anyway, 482 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: eight five zero zero zero, I'm Rondanini in the car, doctor, 483 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: give us a call, and keep in mind that LMC 484 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: gift card is still up for grabs this hour. We'll 485 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: be back right after this. They pulled the fucking lot 486 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: the piece of land where the top? Could this done? 487 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: Before that? They pulled up football in alley cruising along 488 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: this hour, I'll want an any in the card doctor, 489 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 490 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: Let's get over to the phone. Let's go talk to 491 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: Lee in Los Angeles, California expedition highly, how can I 492 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: help on how you doing court expedition? I have a 493 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: mission to it in a cooler reservoir and vice person 494 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: I have and yeah, and how was I have it? 495 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: In the transmission? So I was going, I was wondering 496 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: how I go about that? And with the screen SI, okay, 497 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: so you've got you've got cooling in the trans and 498 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: trans in the coolant. So what we've probably got here 499 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: is a failed trans cooler in the radiator cross cross contaminating. Now, 500 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: and I say it like that because somewhere in the 501 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: back of my mind there there's an auxiliary cooler on 502 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: some of these and I'm trying to remember the scenario 503 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: where there's one scenario where it's not the trans cooler 504 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: uh in the radiator itself, and it's a combination of 505 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: that and something else. So I would recommend that you 506 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: trace out the trans cooler lines leading up to the 507 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: radiator and make sure this is you know, trans radiator 508 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: boom done. And if that's the case, then you've got 509 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: a clear cut bad cooler in the radiator going on. 510 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: So at that point it's replaced the radiator, do a 511 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: cooling system flush and then you know, obviously drained the trans, 512 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: and then do a fluid exchange on the trans and 513 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: cross your fingers. Best answer I got, I do like 514 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: a couple of times and push it out a couple 515 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: of times of um one time one time for the Well, 516 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: let's say it like this. It depends on how dirty 517 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: it is, all right, It depends on how how much 518 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: contamination we've got. If this is a you know, vanilla 519 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: looking strawberry milkshake going on, you know it's gonna take 520 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: a while and you're gonna have to use some form 521 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: of a mild cleaner through the cooling system. You can't 522 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: put anything in the transmission because you'll hurt the seals 523 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: inside their cooling systems will take a little bit more 524 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: abuse than transmissions will. There's a lot more damage that 525 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: can be done inside of transmissions. I wouldn't put anything 526 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: really heavy duty in there to flush it out, maybe 527 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: a mild trans flush, but I would be also mindful 528 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: this is and it's probably got a lot of miles 529 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: on it, and you know, depending on how much stuff 530 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: you want to stir up, you know, this can become 531 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: a problem too. Is this the original translate? Okay? Did 532 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: it operate okay prior to this problem happening. If it's 533 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: still operating now, then chances are do a radiator flush 534 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: the cooling system, do a fluid exchange on the trans 535 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: change the filter, and you'll be just fine. I don't 536 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a problem. Uh well, you know, 537 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: if if from my seat here, if I already guess 538 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: in terms of New Jersey dollars that radiator, if it's 539 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: a heavy duty cooling version, if it's a if it's 540 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: a three inch ro you're probably in the neighborhood of 541 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: three three fifty dollars for the radiator itself, just for 542 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: the part. Again, depends on the quality of what we're chasing. 543 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of stuff you can buy 544 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: cheap junk out on the internet that you know, some 545 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: of it's not so good, some of it's real good. 546 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: You gotta know what you're picking. Um. I tell people, 547 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: part of what they're paying me for at the counter 548 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: is my knowledge and my skill, and I know what 549 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: works and what doesn't work. And that's part of what 550 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: I have to do is I have to pick the 551 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: best lettuce and tomatoes for the salad so they don't 552 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: get indigestion. Um. So you're probably in the neighborhood of 553 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: that for a radiator, a cooling exchange, depending up on 554 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: how much cooling you use. This is green conventional back 555 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: at night. I don't recall it being anything fancier than that. 556 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: You're in the neighborhood of a hundred and fifty dollars there, 557 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: so let's call it five. Uh, you know, changing the 558 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: radiator itself. Oh, you're an hour and a half, two hours, 559 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: so let's call it seven. Um. You know, so you're 560 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: a grander less as a as a guestimate by the 561 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: time you service the trans and fluid fluids add up. 562 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: And that's something that a lot of people tend to overlook. 563 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: If you were to walk into the shop, and I 564 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: do this for for dramatic effect, I'll walk over to 565 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: the side cabinets against the wall, and they people will 566 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: start asking us questions about the price of this or 567 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: the price of that, And I asked him what flavor 568 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: fluid does your car taking? Open up the cabinets and 569 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: there's you know, eighteen different brands of trans coolant engine oil. 570 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: It's kind of a great picture, um, because everything is 571 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: very specific today now and you're gonna be Mirk five 572 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: and all probability and still even Murk five trans fluid 573 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: out of four to six seven dollars a quart, and um, 574 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's start adding it up. It gets to 575 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: be very expensive, right sir. Hey, Lee, I'll tell you what. 576 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: Stay on the phone, let Harry get your information. We're 577 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna send that l MC gift card your way. It's 578 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: a twenty five dollar gift card from the folks at 579 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: l MC truck. It'll be a hat or a T 580 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: shirt and twenty five dollars good for anything in their catalog. 581 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: And when you do, go out online to LMC truck 582 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: dot com and request their catalog and that'll help you 583 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: out as well. So um, hopefully that does something for 584 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: your cause. I'm run an ad in the card ocr 585 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 586 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back in the card 587 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: doctor eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero 588 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: calling and get your question answered. Let's real quick over 589 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: to Julie, New York, New York, the heck of a town. 590 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: How can I help you in your two thousand dodging trepid? Julie? Yes, man, Hi, 591 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: how are you? Are you good? How are you? Can 592 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: I help you? Yes? Um, I have a little problem 593 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: with my two thousand traffic, and the problem being I 594 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: brought to a mechanic. Uh the car you know, turned 595 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 1: all a lot of power, but nothing connected, so of 596 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: course the cart and turned on. So I bowed him 597 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: a mechanic. He was placed two centers and he gave 598 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: the call back next day to call and start it 599 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: comes over because I couldn't get it there, and he 600 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: was placed a fuse the following day, the card and start. 601 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: So I have told back there and I was telling 602 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: me it's a electrical problem, and I don't know where. 603 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: He says he can't find it. So what do I 604 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: do with this? Okay? So let's look for electrical place. 605 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: Well let's here, let's let's back up a second. Let 606 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: me understand this a little bit. Um. You brought it 607 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: to him the first time, and he changed two censors, 608 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: all right? Do you know what two censors he changed? Uh? 609 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: I guess and and no and and no isn't okay, 610 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: answered Julie. You can tell me no, I don't know. 611 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: That's fine. Um, did he change? Did he say anything 612 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: about cam and crank position sensors and that made it work? 613 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: And then again that day he just replaced a fuse. Okay, 614 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: So then let's let's do it like this, all right, 615 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: If he just if he changed, if he changed the 616 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: cam and the crank censors, which are common, okay, and 617 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, if he didn't diagnose anything, or if he 618 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: got caught between an intermittent and he had to take 619 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: a guess and he did a cam and crank sensor. 620 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: We're not holding him up to fire. We're just saying, hey, 621 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: he took his shot. Maybe it was an intermittent thing 622 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: and it was his best guess at that moment. And 623 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: if you explain that to you or not, I don't 624 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: want to be judged jury on that. A cam, cam 625 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: and crank censors are common on those cars. But what's 626 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: also common, and what we'll call a fuse to blow 627 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: is ask him to follow the wiring harness up from 628 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: the crank censor as it comes up. This is a 629 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: V six right, Yeah, follow as as the wiring harness 630 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: follows up over the leading edge of the valve cover. 631 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: All right, where the where the wiring harness comes around 632 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: the bend of the valve cover. Tell him to gently 633 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: lift up on the harness and look underneath, because what 634 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: happens is look under the harness. The harnesses are pulled 635 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: too tight when the vehicles were assembled, and it will 636 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: over time. And here's a car that's fifteen years old, 637 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: it will saw it's it'll saw its way through the 638 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: insulation and create a dead short. Yeah. So if if 639 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: this is a case of if if the fuse is related, 640 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: And the second part of the question to him would 641 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: have to be, is the fuse related to the circuit 642 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: of the two censors, because follow my thinking, if he 643 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: saw the crank censor wasn't doing its job, and he 644 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: assumed the crank censor was bad, assumption being a bad 645 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: word here on family radio, and he would put a 646 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: crank sensor in it, and then the next day the 647 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: fuse blew. Perhaps his disconnecting the crank censor, he intentionally 648 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: unintentionally move the harness and aggravated the short, aggravated the short. 649 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and now all of a sudden, the fuse blows. 650 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: Every time you hit a bump on the road or 651 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: the car won't start and you go out to start it, crank, crank, crank, 652 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: the harness moves a little bit. I would very carefully 653 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: look at the harness to the censors that he replaced 654 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: and start the diagnosis from there. And I wouldn't be 655 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: surprised if, like I said, where the harness comes up 656 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: around the valve cover, it's gonna catch right on the 657 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: sharp edge of the leading side of the valve cover. 658 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: They wear through all the time and they blow the fuse, 659 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: or at least they did back when two thousand dodging 660 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: trepids roamed the land in greater numbers. Good luck to you, Julie. 661 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: Let me know if I can be of further help. 662 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm Ronanindy in the car. Doctor. I want to thank 663 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: everybody for stopping by the hour. The hands of the 664 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: Great provide. Tell me this hour is coming, gone until 665 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See 666 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: you