WEBVTT - Week 16 preview 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:06.399 The Around the NFL Podcast, so Cal's number one Delaware 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.080 tribute band. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:12.960 the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.240 am joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.400 Chris Westling and Greg ros All. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan, 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:24.840 I gotta say we have uh to get some new 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.280 money tags. We've gotta get some money intros. I feel 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.319 like we've hitten the recycled being a couple of a 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.240 couple of times. We did, and I will. I did 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.800 send out a call to arms on our Twitter use 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.480 the hashtag money tags. You've sent in some great ones. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.600 We're gonna add our own and we're gonna have Matt 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.360 money Smith records some new ones next week. But keep 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.839 sending him, keep sending the good ones. I've seen some 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:52.080 great ones so far. Um what else? Also on Twitter, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.240 a lot of positive feedback about spice Rack. Oh yeah, 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.600 what a spice Rex Twitter handle. We should help him out. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.400 It's like, at no, no, you should say what it 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.480 actually is. You don't even need to help him out 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.600 that much. He hasn't tweeted in three months. I went 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:07.920 and checked. I was gonna follow him and he never tweets, 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.920 so I thought, well, it should be like at the Spicer. Yeah, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.400 obviously he's there, a new one. It's time for him. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.200 It's time for him to brand himself. If he wants 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.840 to get back in the show, He's got a brand himself, 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.440 and just be prepared for you know, he sent me 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.399 a bunch of texts last night. He was he was 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.400 a little down in the dumps at first. But I think, 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.319 you know, once I told him that the listeners liked it, 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.480 he was. I thought it was great. It was great. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:33.160 His Twitter handle is at brand Underscore Marquis m A 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.640 r q u e LV. I'm a little concerned about 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.160 his emotional state and the fact that he's at you know, 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.119 in the course of twenty four hour has been very 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.240 high maintenance in terms of West's friendship with him. No, 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.040 he hasn't been high man. Okay, well, just so he's 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.160 all over the map emotionally, like up, he's down. You know, 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.000 I thought, he's great, He's gonna have a little self confidence. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:55.680 He did great. He felt like he he left a 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.200 lot of meat on the bone to borrow. Joseph Randalls 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:03.080 there is he is your desert. Desert Svengali, and a 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:04.640 lot of people said, oh, would he be a good 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.520 challenger and win West's toaster? Oh? Yeah, would he? He 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.800 knows a lot about sports. But I've been doing this 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.519 for a living for the last almost ten years, which 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:19.120 gives me a tremendous advantage over him. Humble Christmas time, Humble, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.640 just giving you an honest and like smells like the 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:30.320 gift of humble brag. It's about me. I did you 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.360 want me to give you a coach speaker or something? Alright, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.480 so listen lest we love you. It is the holiday season. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.920 We are two days away from Christmas. We we gave 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.720 gifts to each other on Tuesday's show. Now we will 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.880 give the gift to our listener of an excellent Week 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:51.640 sixteen preview. Nailed it? Home run? Where's the Stitcher? We 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.280 will go through each of the sixteen games. What well, now, 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.359 I was gonna I was just gonna say, continue on. Okay, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.280 each of the sixteen games on the week's sixteen schedule. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:07.520 Uh so there will be two teams, six games to 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.639 talk about. I just gotta say we can pull back 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.400 the curtain a little bit. Hansas has got to catch 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:18.080 a bird. Uh An airplane down to Texas to see 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.520 your lovely wife and your son Jack. So we're gonna mow. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.600 We're gonna, you know, try to mow through these games, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.840 uh in an expedient time and get you there on time. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.960 And the Thursday night game will be really quick too, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.640 because we know some of you might be listening to 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.520 this on Christmas or even the day after Christmas when 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.480 you're traveling back home. Do you call airplanes birds? Now 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.800 that you have an image of you wearing sunglasses and 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.520 like a leather jacket for your other podcasts? Are you 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.520 talking about the Rosenthal and Jessel Nick Vanity Project new logo? 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.240 Thank you, thank you for the plug. We have a 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.240 new episode on Wednesday the Rump Podcast. I think that's 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:55.120 what the logo says, our j vp um. I'm not 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.440 ready to talk about the image yet, you're not. I 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.960 don't think anyone on earth to talked about it more 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.640 than you, and no one cares what you say. More 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.680 about the logo in general. Let's see how Gregg's voice 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.360 and pitch is raising, and he's talking over me because 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.400 he's very nervous when I have to say about it. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.160 I'm just not ready to talk about it. I care deeply, Dan. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.159 I want to hear your thoughts on the logo. Yeah, 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.640 for Sunday show, we'll talk about it. For now, everyone 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.080 makes sure you go check out the r j VP 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.600 whatever podcast and check out the image. So it was, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.440 what do you mean will dismiss What do you mean? 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.600 I support? Greg? Yeah? If I was half as a 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:38.479 dismissive about anything that Dan ever did, he would give 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.320 me the full I wouldn't even say who the treatment 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.440 where you don't even speak to me for weeks on end, 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.039 I wouldn't talk. I wouldn't hear from you. Well, what 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:47.960 kind of treatment is that? I don't know. I've never 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:53.240 done that too. That's a that's a maneuver that happens sometimes. Interesting. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:58.360 All right, So let's get to some football games, and 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.200 we will start yes with a Thursday night matchup. Um 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.120 the Chargers traveling to Oakland to face the Raiders. UM 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.400 traveling to the dark black Hole. Um. You know this 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.200 is a game that will be played on Christmas Eve 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.240 between two teams that aren't going to the playoffs. Uh. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.480 And yet there is some juice, isn't there? Greg? Yeah? 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.400 There is. It could be the last game in the 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.720 history of the Oakland Raiders in Oakland, I really doubt it. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.560 But the bigger one is that one of the greatest 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.920 players of the last generation is playing his last home 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.440 game and one of the players I think most identified 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.720 with the Raiders over the last twenty five years. If 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.560 if ever there's a true Raider, it's Charles Woodson. And 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.839 one more thing to watch in this game, Amari Cooper's 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.160 offensive Rookie of the Year chances. In a race that's 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.320 still pretty much wide open, someone like David Johnson could 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.039 claim it with a few hot weeks. I feel like 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.039 the Raiders in general still have a lot to play for. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.479 I mean, you're not going to make the playoffs, but no, 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.839 I think what they've accomplished this season a their coach 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.320 sticks around, be their gms sticks around. After this year, 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.240 you've got to You've got a lot to build around 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.080 on both sides of the ball. It's not very promising season. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.960 I think so too. I don't think this is depressing. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.880 If you're Raiders now gotta be happy. It will be 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.960 a celebration on Thursday night. I think of Charles Woodson. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.120 How many players say they want to go back and 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.839 play for the team that they drafted them. Uh, but 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.120 not many really do it. Not many pass up an 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.200 opportunity a contract from the Denver Broncos who are playing, 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.279 you know, are coming off a great season. He said, no, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.520 I'd rather go back to Oakland. And then he does 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.320 it with a Pro Bowl season. They showed up in 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.040 mass even when he was coming to visit the team. Again. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.920 He's so popular there, so it's cool. It should be 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.839 a cool scene. I thought that was really cool that 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.279 he like took some responsibility because he loves the Raiders 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.600 organization so much to take them from a place that 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.920 had no hope. And he's like, you know what, I've 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.120 got him now here where they've got building blocks, they've 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.720 got hope. My work is done. I can retire. These 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.400 are the last three seasons for the Raiders, three and thirteen, 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.640 four and twelve, four and twelve. So you know, even 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:01.719 if they split these last two games, even if they 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.000 don't win another game, six and tens of improvement. If 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.720 they can get seven or eight wins, you've got to 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.800 be very excited. Hope is in the building. Uh. So 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.240 we'll see if they can take care of business. I 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:15.320 believe we have all picked Uh, the Raiders to do 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.320 just that. Yes, we have all picked the Raiders to 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:23.040 win this game and move to seven and eight. Moving on, gentlemen, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.520 let's move now to Saturday night football. Uh, this is uh, 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.680 you know, I remember the Saturday I missed Saturday Day football, 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.000 which was always fun. But we'll take a little Saturday 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:36.560 night football for the second straight week, this time a 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:41.239 big NFC East matchup, one that can determine who wins 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.440 the NFC East, that is the Washington Redskins. You know, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.960 I I said that I could not imagine Ja Gruden 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.320 at a podium, uh, talking about his big win of 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.280 the NFC East. But now here is his chance to 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.720 close out the division. And uh, Mark, here's the thing though, 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.800 and we talked about this on the NFL Network. Hit. Uh, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.680 why does it feel like this this division is destined 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.480 to be settled in week seventeen and not here it 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.880 seems too clean? Well, I think that's just based on 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.280 what we've I'll use the word endured all season with 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.679 the NFC East. I mean, as soon as you start 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.160 to feel some sense of shorty your confidence, for instance, 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.080 in the Redskins, it's it's sand blasted. A week later. 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.600 Remember the Eagles a few weeks back, or the Giants 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.560 for that matter, But the Redskins when they were about 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.400 to host the Cowboys on Monday Night Football. If it 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.480 wasn't for that game, if they just beat Maccastle, this 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.360 thing would be over. You're right, I mean, I I 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.640 do think though at this point what the Redskins have 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.400 going for them is Kirk Cousins. Again, it's a week 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.080 to week proposition, but he's playing the best he has 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.640 all season. Deshan Jackson is back, he's healthy, he's had 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.120 a great month. And Jordan Reid, with two hundred less 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.520 snaps than Gary Barnage, has nine touched touchdowns, same with 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.520 Gary Barneage. I mean, Jordan Reid is playing out of 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.679 his mind. So you've got your weapons ready to go 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.839 against the defense that's you know, given up forty points 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.400 in three of the last five games. You watched the Eagles, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.560 and you know, I wanted to pick the Eagles um, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.640 But at the end of the day, the game I 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.319 watched on Sunday night and they were playing a vastly 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.120 superior team. But it's just this team seems like it's 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.000 it has so many issues and the Redskins are just 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.560 playing much better right now, and it just seems to 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.800 me that Washington should take care of business. Uh, Greg, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.840 do you feel that way? I do believe that the 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.240 Redskins are a much better and more consistent team than 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.720 the Eagles. I think the Eagles were very lucky to 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.840 win in Foxborough and that they were lucky to beat 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.280 the Bills. I kind of can't figure out how they 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.480 won those games. What happened to this defense? As bad 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:48.280 as Chip Kelly's offense has been compared to expectations, the 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.120 defense has been more surprising over the last eight weeks. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.480 That they suddenly went from one of the better defensive 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.679 lines in the league and in a good front seven 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.520 and a Pro Bowl safety, Pro Bowl quality safety and 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.840 Malcolm j to just nothing. And this is where if 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.480 you want to make the case that they're just not 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.480 playing with the same intensity as other NFL teams, I 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.719 think you look at that defense, it's been a total disappointment. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.800 And Cousins and this Redskins offense should be able to 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.520 put together some of those eight, ten, twelve played drives 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.440 that they're that they're really known for. At this point, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.000 Speaking of Cousins, let's now look over to the kissing 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:26.440 Cousins corner. Uh success, Are you guys comfortable? Number one, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.320 are you comfortable with the you Like that trademark that 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.880 has been filed by Kirk Cousins? And number two, will 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.719 you buy some officially endorsed you like that apparel? If 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.600 he does get the trademark? Care not for the trademark whatsoever? 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.640 I mean, who cares? It's a cool saying because it 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.679 happened organically, but now that it's a trademark, can give 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.240 me a break? Whatever, But go ahead. But this guy's 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.440 leading the NFL and completion percentage and set the record 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.880 for best completion percentage at home in an NFL. He's 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.360 the most effective quarterback in the league on throws one 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.319 to ten yards. There's a good stat in our research packet. 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.360 He leads the NFL and quarterback rating in in passes 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.520 over ten yards. He's one of the worst quarterbacks in 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:12.080 the league. Six touchdowns, eight interceptions, sub fifty completion percentage. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.000 So I give j Gruden and Kirk Cousins credit. They're 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.720 playing to his strengths. He's just not gonna be a 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.560 guy that ever gets excited throwing the ball down the field. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.080 And he's not even trying and there you know, they 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.280 have a good they have a pretty good offense despite it. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.760 Nine yards per attempt over the last seven games, though, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.160 that's not bad. But it's all it's a it's all 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.080 in the short passes that go along a lot of 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.280 its screens, and he gets the ball up quick and 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.280 he makes the right It seems like at least once 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.320 or twice the games he's getting the ball to Sean 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.600 Jackson deep. Yeah, lately two quick numbers don't lie though, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.400 Redskins only two wins in the last fourteen games on 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.000 the road. But we are not kissing cousins. Cousins West 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.800 and I, but we both hail from Germany, from about 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.959 twenty miles away, way back when Cecilberg and I think, 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.680 what is it? Wessels is in Germany. There you go, 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:03.000 so maybe there you go. So just a couple of areas. Well, 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.400 you know, it's we are our our ancestors probably agreed 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.960 and disagreed on sports topics going back hundreds of years. Well, 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.959 you and Greg were separated by continents. I was just saying, like, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.000 you know, Greg's father was born in Nazi Germany. You're 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:21.359 happy about that? No, I'm not happy. Well, that's ridiculous. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.200 I'm talking about my family. I'm talking about like the 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.559 pre the pastoral times when it was a peace loving group. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.840 I don't agree with that. Germany, oh yeah, go back 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.920 really far in German history. Always a calm group of people. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.320 All right, that'll be fine. All I'm saying is that, 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.520 you know, not paint anybody with a broad chasing Greg's 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.960 family around, uh Mark, Dan and West. I'll pick the 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.480 Redskins that clinch the NFC East. Greg, quit doing picks. Well, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.680 I'm taking the I'm taking the Eagles just because you're right, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.400 it deserves to go to Week seven taking the division. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.720 I'm taking them to win this game. The Redskins haven't 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.920 beaten the winning team all year. Moving on, the Carolina 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.520 Panthers are fourteen and oh chasing history. And I haven't 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.160 heard anything yet about UM because they haven't locked up 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.559 the NFC top seed yet, right A win on Sunday 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.120 would do that. Correct, That's true, they still have something 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.120 to play for. But this certainly to me feels that. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.520 First of all, they have the Falcons in Atlanta, UM 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.599 a game again, they should win. The schedules favorable for 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.480 them to get to sixteen and oh and I don't 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:22.880 want to look past this game, but I just do 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.360 want to say that this certainly feels like a team 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.120 uh as exhausting as they've been uh the last couple 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.760 of days. UM, a team that will not fold up 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.320 tent and you know, settle, you know, play starters for 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.040 a quarter in week seventeen and then look ahead to 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.000 the playoffs and risk not going sixteen. You know, I 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.439 think this team knows and they get it, and that's 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.480 a good thing. That's sixteen and O is a big deal. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.680 I'm excited that the Panthers are gonna go for this. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.520 I don't find them exhausting at all. I find them invigorating. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.319 That a team that plays like a team on defense, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.440 especially so good week after weeks, so much intensity. They're 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.960 a fun team to watch. That Josh Norman thing doesn't 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.800 bother me at all. And just they're different, are different 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.839 than everything everything is like, who cares? That's not true? 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.640 I like it. This is the original team of a 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.560 t L and you guys have no connection. This is 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.960 not that team. But there's a lot that connects that 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.680 team to this team. They're fans have been abhorrent this year. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.400 That's why they're hard to take. I think, yeah, it's 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.920 what you on the field during games. You're right, that's 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.080 what I care about. Okay, all right, well that's that's 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.000 great that you can icily separate that from all the 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.800 other things that surround the team. Covering the Panthers week 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.920 to week, it's almost as if in the last fortnight 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.080 or so they've embraced the villain rule that they had 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.560 to get that chip back on their shoulder. And good 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.120 for them if that's the psychology happening inside the building. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.360 But covering them day after day and the stuff that's happened, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.240 especially in the last two weeks, they are tiresome. That's 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.200 how I feel. Not on the field, but I think 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.760 that would happen with any fourteen and no team happen 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:03.000 with the Cardinals, for Tina, so happened with the Patriots. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.080 I think this is when you're on the top, then 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:10.160 people just it's Norman wasn't like taking page by page, 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:14.520 paragraph by paragraph after the book that Richard Sherman. I mean, 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.920 it wouldn't be so tedious. But come on, Josh Norman, 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.840 You're it's easy to see through what you're doing here. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.880 You also kind of got toasted last week Sneaky toasted, 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.440 right was? I wrote about that for next Gen Stats. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.760 Odell Beckham left a hundred yards and a touchdown on 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:32.800 the field, and look, nobody shut down Odell Beckham, unless 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.040 you want to say Odell Beckham shut himself down for 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:38.440 fifty seven minutes. Butler did about as good a job 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.240 as anyone certainly didn't shut him down. Gave up one big, 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.560 big play. But you're right, no one shuts him down. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.720 I want to get you, Greg, if I would have 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.280 gotten you in secret, send, I would have gotten you 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.960 the official jersey of the practice squad player that approached 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:57.320 Odell Beckham with a baseball. That guy's cool. Enjoy the CFL, bro, 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.400 if you're luck well, we should say Ron Rivet seems 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.320 to be one of the genuinely nicest people in the league, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.520 so I do hope he does. And he speaks the 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.480 truth when he's mad. When he got angry at the 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.560 reporters for continuing to ask what was it? Last week, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.920 I'm even forgetting the tiresome situation with Cam Newton, and 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.240 then this week I like that he called out the Giants. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.360 He caught up the Giants for leaking uh information about 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.640 the bat and was saying that's excuse making he just 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.600 the idea that racial slur or not racial slurs, but 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.440 gay slurs were used. He he went out and said 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.800 that this smells a little bit like spin control out there, 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.880 especially it was from the Giants. I like, I love her. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.640 By the way, Josh Nor, we did talk about a 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.800 little bit when we were talking about the Beckham stuff, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.920 that Norman was not innocent in all this. The league 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.680 find him two separate finds totaling over twenty six thousand 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.560 dollars for some of his behavior, and we should say 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.280 a time of taping today Beckham, his appeal hearing is 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.520 going on in the league office. He's trying to get 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.200 that one game suspension knocked off. But anyway, the Panthers 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.880 are should take care of. But the Falcons got back 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.199 on track, but there's still this an inferior team. We 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.920 all took the Panthers to win the game. Don't blow 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.920 this one. I know it's a division game on the road, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:15.560 but don't blow this one. Involve again that Giants game. Yeah, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.479 and I would and Cam Newton, you know that was 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.040 that was pretty badass. I will say the the jift 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.520 that floated around of after Beckham's scored the touchdown to 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.080 tie the game, and they cut to Newton on the 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.000 sideline and he's like shaking his head, like all right, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.960 all right, this goes out there seventy yards down the field. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.040 Game over. Yeah, it was cool. It seems like they're 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.080 doing something special. It's a little tiresome, some of the antics. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.320 That's all anytime the time we talked about tiresome, it's 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.440 usually around one or two people. It's not the whole team. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.359 It's just one or two issues or nonsensical individuals. And 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.920 West says the fan base as well, so that makes 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.440 it a boat war. I don't necessarily mean the fans 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.440 as much, but I just said Twitter presence is just abhorrent. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.639 I mean, give me a break. Well, as editor David 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.000 Ealely downstairs, who is a Panthers fan, says that they're 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.480 learning to deal with success, Greg's furrowing his brown No, no, no, 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.080 I'm sure people would go to the games, are fine, whatever, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.280 The city's cool, but the people on Twitter are just 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.119 they've overtaken the Seahawks is the worst. I'm just happy. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.560 Our our editor David Ealely got to mention because it's 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.480 gonna make it's gonna be his Christmas present. That's moving on. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:24.480 The Pittsburgh Steelers are nine and five, surviving a big 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.679 scare uh last week in Denver or against Denver, A 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.360 nice comeback when and uh that really uh saved them 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.320 from being in a very bad situation. Now they have 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.080 a chance to lock up a playoff spot by taking 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.960 care of business, and it starts at Baltimore against the 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:45.400 decimated Ravens. Um Mark, these are two teams that you loathe. Um. 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.520 You know you loathe them so much that during Secret Santa, Uh, 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:53.760 you you elaborated one gift to disband the Ravens entirely. 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:55.959 And my thought when I had to think of what 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.439 would make Mark happiest, I had Ben Roethlisberger framed for 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.720 capital murder, um, multiple counts of capital murder. So I'll 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.560 let you talk about this game a little bit. Well, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.680 you know, the last time the Ravens played the Steelers, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.760 they got Michael Vick, who couldn't connect with Antonio Brown. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:16.080 I think now you're looking at a completely different team entirely, 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.439 and the Ravens. I tweeted this out and got a 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.040 lot of heat because I wish the merry Christmas with 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.000 this stat if the Ravens have allowed twenty eight passing 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.840 touchdowns while having just for interception, which is the worst 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:33.280 touchdown to interception ratio going back to at least nineteen 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.919 thirty three. So we've talked all year about this secondary 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.760 that has been getting torched, and now you're dealing with 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.000 a passing game that is white hot. And I don't 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.640 hate the Steelers. I respect the Steelers at the Ravens. 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.280 I do not respect the Ravens because of their roots, 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:51.879 and that's my own issue to deal with. It's not 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.879 your issue to deal with. But I think Pittsburgh is 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.919 gonna take this team to town on Sunday easily because 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.720 this good. They're gonna go right into the playoffs and 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.720 not they're gonna upset a few teams I think there. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.960 I don't know. I'm not sure anyone can stop Steelers 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.760 at this level right now in this room anyway, I 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.679 don't think anybody will be surprised if they knock us. 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.679 Some teams I don't even know be an upset. This 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.240 is a loaded team. All they have to do is 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:16.880 stay out of their own way and not get hurt. 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.879 You can, you can pick the Steelers apart through the air, 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:24.000 but Jimmy Clawson cannot pick the Steelers apart through This 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.240