1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Everybody welcome to move the sex. D J, Bucky here, 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: and we are one week away from the two thousand 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: nineteen NFL Draft. Buck, How you doing? But man, I'm good. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: You know, we come to the end of it. I 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: can see the tape, but it's almost like running a 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: long race and you can see it. But man, obvious 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: appear a lot closer than they really really are. So 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: we're still good. We still we still got some time. 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: We still have some more tape that you on and grind. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: We still have some more rumors to kind of sort out. 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: But it's a fun time of year because when you 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: talk to you Scouting, Bud Buds and the biz, I mean, 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: the draft is like their super Bowl. It's the one 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: opportunity that they have to sit at the big table 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: to have their voice heard. And so this is a 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: culmination of a lot of work by a lot of people. 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: And to that point, I kind of saw the tread 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: the thread uh Jim Naggy put out there about it 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: seems like there's a little anti Scout uh business being 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: floated out there on the twitterverse. Yeah, I can't really 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: understand it because here's what I will say, and I 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: know it can be easy for people on the outside 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: looking into kind of criticize scouts or maybe not getting 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: it right. You're in a business where you're talking about 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the hit rate at the good level, maybe you're fifty fifty, 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: but really, if you're coming up with batting averages MLB 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: batting averages where you're three hundred three fifty or above, 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: you're really doing a great job. Because I believe, and 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: I'll stand on this, the hardest thing to do is 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: to project a player going from college to the pros 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: because you're looking at apples versus oranges, and it's a 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: lot of subjectivity based on not only the talent that 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: he has, but where he goes, how he's coached, what 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: the fit is, what the coaching UH plan is, and 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: the plan of development for those players. And so we 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: can sit here and speculate what someone is going to 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: be two and three years down the line, but really 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: you have no way of knowing because there's so many 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: variables that really impact the way that they play between 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: the lines. Now, I'm glad you referenced that of the 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Baseball reference there, because that's gonna be a little bit 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: of a theme for us. You're talking about batting average, 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: how about we can talk slugging percentage, swinging for the fences, 45 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: because we're gonna get over today some of the risky picks. 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: And it's uh, we we talked about this on the phone. 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: We're talking about light tower power. Do not choke up, 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: Rob Deer, whatever you gotta do. Swing for the fences. 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: You could hit one off the light tower or you 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: could strike out. So those type of risky players. Then 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: on the other side of it, Buck, we're gonna look 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: at some of the safe players, Guys that will will 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: lay our head on the pillow and feel good about 54 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: knowing they're part of your team. Yeah, I mean, I 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: think that's the thing. Like, there are a couple of 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: different approaches that you can take towards the draft. In 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the first round. We've talked about this and using a 58 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: Baseball reference. In the first round, if you only have 59 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: one pick and you're a team just really trying to build, 60 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: it is really uh in your best interest to be 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: a contact hitter. You want to get on base, you 62 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: want to advance the runner. You want to make sure 63 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: that the guys that you take in the first round. 64 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: At their worst, they become solid starters for a long time. Now, 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: if they become more than that, then look, you've knocked 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: it out the park. You've done a great job. Um. 67 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: If you have multiple picks, then you can be a 68 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: little more uh risky when it comes to the selection 69 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: for one of those guys, because you really want to 70 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: make sure that you get it right with the first pick, 71 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: but then with the second one. That's kind of a 72 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: bonus pick. If you hit on that guy, that guy 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: becomes a Pro Bowl player, someone that's a difference maker. 74 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: You really upgraded the talent on your roster. Different approaches, 75 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you want to 76 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: make sure that you get the first round right, and 77 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: then when you get into those other rounds, second, third, 78 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: and even the later rounds, you may take a couple 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: of chances. All Right, we're gonna get into that talking 80 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: safe picks, talking risky picks. Also gonna get a chance 81 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: to visit one of the one of more interesting players 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: in this year's draft class, Marquise Hollywood Brown, wide receiver 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma, get a chance to visit with him see 84 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: how his health is. After his his list, Frank injury 85 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: that he's trying to navigate through. Was checking with him 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: on that, talking to him about what we should expect 87 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: from him at the next level. Also, you gotta remember, 88 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: for those who don't know Hollywood Brown cousins with Antonio Brown, 89 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: what do you want to would he be open to 90 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers something I look forward to 91 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: asking him a little bit later on in the show. 92 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: But let's start safe picks first here, Buck, Let's go 93 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: up guys that when you pick them, you feel very 94 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: confident about, You feel very comfortable again, Doubles, you know 95 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: what you're buying. Let's go safe picks and just we 96 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: can just kind of shotgun him here and just go 97 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: one at a time. Who who do you like? Easiest 98 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: one for me is T J. Hockenson from Iowa. He 99 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: is a safe pick all day because I know exactly 100 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: what I'm buying. I know I'm getting a solid player 101 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: who can do everything that I want to see done 102 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: at the time. In position, he's a physical block at 103 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: the point of attack, he can seal the edge. Uh. 104 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: In the running game, he is a guy that can 105 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: make plays over the middlefield, solid route runner. I've compared 106 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 1: him repeatedly to Jason Witten. When you think about Jason 107 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: Wint in the long term production and success that he 108 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: has had with the Dallas Cowboys, I think t J. 109 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: Hawkson is a guy that is going to be very 110 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: similar to that. I think you're talking about a thirteen, fourteen, 111 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: fifteen year vet that just gives you steady Eddie production 112 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: each and every season. Yeah, I'm with you. He's one 113 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: of my favorites in the entire draft class. I think 114 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: you get a little bit of both worlds there. You 115 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: get some of the high end, you get some of 116 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: the high floor as well. I'm gonna go a linebacker 117 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: and I have I have Devin White is my top 118 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: off the ball linebacker. Actually think Devin Bush is a 119 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: little safer just because Devin Bush a little bit better 120 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: taken on. He's a little more physical inside. Uh So 121 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 1: to me in terms of just safe picks. Guy runs, 122 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: He's got great character, leadership intelligence. He checks so many 123 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: different boxes. He's not six ft two, We're not the 124 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: biggest guy in the world. He's he's five eleven two 125 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: or thirty four pound linebacker. But to me, he's one 126 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: clear packaging. I know exactly what I'm getting with Devon Bush. 127 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that because when you kind 128 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: of described it off, we talked about it like the 129 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: guys that I fall in love with, the guys that 130 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: are kind of my my blue all the guys that 131 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: I want. They're smart, they're tough, they're physical. Those guys 132 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: always find a way to play in the league for 133 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: a long time. And so you talk about Devin White 134 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: and Devon Bush, I'm gonna go with Taylor Rap from you, 135 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: dub Taylor Rap is not going to win uh the 136 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: the Olympics as a decathlete, like didn't put in a 137 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: great forty time. But what he is, he's a rock 138 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: solid football player who consistently makes plays no matter how 139 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: you use him. You want to put him near the 140 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: box to be an extra defender against the run, check 141 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: that off. You want him in the deep middle to 142 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: make plays against a prolific passing attack, check that off. 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: If you need him to kind of come down and 144 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: be a rover that is the enforcer, lurking between the hashes. 145 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Checked that off. All the things that you're looking for 146 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: at the position, he is able to do it. Now 147 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: is either fastest when it comes to being able to 148 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: get it done. No, but I believe he plays faster 149 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: on tape than he performs on the field, and part 150 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: of that is due to his instincts, his high i Q, 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: and just his overall football acumen. This is a guy 152 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: that is going to you're starting the league for a 153 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: long time. I can sleep comfortably at night knowing that 154 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: Taylor wraps my starting safety. Yeah, my next one, I'm 155 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: with you on that. By the way, with Taylor wrap 156 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: my next one, I'm gonna give it two for here. 157 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: Because Garrett Bradburd I feel like we've talked about him 158 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: so much to go there at the center from NC State, 159 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: but he's so clean and uh, he's definitely somebody I 160 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: would sleep well at night if I picked him. And 161 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I want to stay at the safety position. And sometimes 162 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: when you're talking about safe picks, we're not talking just 163 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: about first second round guys, just players that you have 164 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: a role for him, you know exactly what you're gonna get. Um, 165 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: there's no there's no guesswork. Mike Edwards, a safety from 166 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Kentucky Buck. He might not be the biggest guy in 167 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: the world five ten four so five ten and a half, 168 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: two or five pounds ran four or five flat. But 169 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: I just love the fact that I can drop him 170 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: down and play him near the line of scrimmage. And 171 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: I know exactly what I'm gonna get from him. Uh. 172 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: He's somebody's gonna be a very sure tackler. He's got 173 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: some instincts to get his hands on some balls. Underneath, 174 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be a very dependable, reliable player. And 175 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Mike Edwards probably, you know, I would say fourth round 176 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: is where he ends up going. Maybe he could sneak 177 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: into the third round, but more than likely you're talking 178 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: about a fourth round guy. Uh. And I feel great 179 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 1: about that pick. I mean I feel I feel pretty 180 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: good about it as well. Like you know, what's funny. 181 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: What's funny he is We've we've taken made four or 182 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: five picks, and we haven't talked about a quarterback. So 183 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the fire. Who is your safest pick 184 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position? I'm just curious because I wrote 185 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: down the name, Yeah, my safest pick at the quarterback position. Well, 186 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: you have to really eliminate one year guys, right, because 187 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: traditionally one year guys not safe. You haven't seen a 188 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: long track record, So that's the two top quarterbacks in 189 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: the draft, Kyler Murray and Dwayne Haskins. I think we you, 190 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: we have the same two top guys just slipped. Um, 191 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: So those guys wouldn't be classified as safe players because 192 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: there's not enough track record. So then it comes down 193 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: to who's next. Is it? Is it Daniel Jones, is 194 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: it Drew Lock? Both those guys have played a lot 195 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: of football. Um, I would probably say Daniel Jones would 196 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: would be the one I feel safe about. Maybe that 197 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: ceiling is not sky high, but I feel like the floor. 198 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: I know what the floor is. It's so funny. That 199 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: is exactly what I wrote down. And it's funny because, like, 200 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: it's funny how the scouting process works out, very very 201 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: early in the process, when I would see Daniel jones 202 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: is name listed as maybe the first just saying, I'm like, man, 203 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Then I go to the Senior Bowl 204 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: and I'm watching the practices and I felt like, maybe 205 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: kind of great. He shrank a little bit at times 206 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: on the press field, but then he ends up as 207 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: a Senior Bowl m v P. And that doesn't necessarily 208 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: mean anything, but when the game was played, he made 209 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: enough place to earn that honor. And then when you 210 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: talk to him, and you talk to his his high 211 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: school coach, and you talk to people around him, and 212 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: he just kind of checks off all the boxes in 213 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: terms of Look, this is a guy that is accountable, 214 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: He's dependable. The game means a lot to him. He 215 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: has the necessary instincts and intellect to be successful at it, 216 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: and we know that he is going to work hard 217 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: at the craft. It's easy to buy into those guys. 218 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he'll ever emerge as a top five, 219 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: better even a top ten quarterback, but I do know 220 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones is my starting quarterback, I know exactly 221 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: what I'm getting, and I believe I know how to 222 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: build my team to kind of maximize who he is 223 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: as a player. Yeah, you guy, I couldn't say better myself. Buck, 224 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm with you on all that. Go ahead. Can't you 225 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: got a question for us? Yeah, we just talked about 226 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: one of our three sixty guys and Daniel Jones. How 227 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: about the three sixty we released this week? Clemson D line. 228 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Bucky. Out of all the Clemson 229 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: D lineman, who's the safest picked out of those guys. 230 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: To me, I think it's Dexter Lawrence, and that's not 231 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: being a homer. I think with Dexter, you know exactly 232 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: what he is. He's at his worst, he's a nose 233 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: tackle who's capable of occupying multiple blockers and stopping the run. 234 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: At his best, he ends up being more than that, 235 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: meaning he can rush the pass or pushed the pocket 236 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe gives you five to six sacks. 237 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: I've kind of compared him a little bit. They're not 238 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: the same like body type wise, but he reminds me 239 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: a lot of Vince Wilfork. Vince Wilford was a solid 240 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: player for a long time for the New England Patriots 241 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: and then the Houston Texans. I would envision dex Are 242 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: being very very similar to that. Yeah, I think, you know, 243 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: really all of them have played a lot of ball. 244 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: I feel like you know you're what you're getting in. 245 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: The character checks out, So I think they're all actually 246 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: pretty clean and pretty safe. I would say Ferrell just um, 247 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: as long as your expectations are aligned properly, I think 248 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be an eight to ten sack guy. Consistently. 249 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: Think of the production you get from somebody like a 250 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: Brandon Graham look recently, a guy like Matt Jude on 251 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: how they've played gonna be stout against the run, can 252 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: set the edge and then it's gonna be you know, 253 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: give me some timely sacks. Maybe I can get you 254 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: a ton of sacks, but they're always timely shows up 255 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: in big games. Just totally wired the right way as you. 256 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: If you listen to the three sixty episode, you're gonna 257 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, learn about all these guys, but feral to me, 258 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: just the whole military background and upbringing and I mean 259 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: he's been into his life. I bet on that kid 260 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: all day long. I mean he's easy to bet on 261 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: because you're right in the background. Uh speaks volumes about 262 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: his character and a lot of the DJ we've talked 263 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: about this on there and off there. When you get 264 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: to know guys and you know kind of there why 265 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: you didn't can, it's easier to bank on those guys. 266 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: And hearing his wine here and the coach talk about 267 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: his wine and how he's wired, I'm more than willing 268 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: to believe that he's going to be a guy that 269 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: makes it. And speaking of stories, um, but Josh Jacobs 270 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: kind of qualify as a guy that you bank on 271 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: in terms of safe pig based on his background and 272 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: what he's had to overcome. Say, look, I love him 273 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: as a player. I think he's a fantastic player. I 274 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: still have him in my top ten, and I readily 275 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: admit he's not going in the top ten. I understand that. 276 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: I just I believe so much in the kid. Now, 277 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: if I was going to use the words safe, though, 278 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: I think most people want to see more production um 279 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: and and he doesn't have that, So I wouldn't classify 280 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: him and that in that regard as is safe. I 281 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: just I believe so much in the person and the 282 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: kid and the ability. I've seen him do everything. There 283 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: just isn't a long history of him doing everything, so 284 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: to me falls into the category a little bit with 285 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: the top two quarterbacks, you know, just not a long 286 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: track reck there of production. So uh, maybe that excludes 287 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: him from that list. But do I believe in him 288 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: and have I stamped my approval and kind of push 289 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: my chips into the table. Any other analogy you want 290 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: to use, Yes, I'm a Josh Jacobs guy. I think 291 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: that's well known. Yeah, I mean, look, I think his story, 292 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: I think what he's had to overcome. I think the 293 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: flashes that you see on tape when he's been giving 294 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: the ball and given opportunities to kind of be the guy, 295 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: he's certainly shown it. Does he have the production that 296 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: you want, No, but the skill set is there because 297 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: he can run inside and outside, he can catch the 298 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield. He's dependable in past protection. 299 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: And when you get the story and what he said 300 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: to overcome, I believe he's gonna be wired the right 301 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: way mentally, that he's always gonna be a guy that 302 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: is working at his craft. That football means a lot 303 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: to him, and basically, I don't want to say it's 304 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: his saving grace, but it's going to give him an 305 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to change his life for the better. And I 306 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: think when you come from certain situations like that, I 307 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: think it's always going to be the priority. I think 308 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna take care of business when he's asked to 309 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: be a feature back. I'm gonna do one more here 310 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: and then we'll switch over to guys that we want 311 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: to take a shot on her are risky and have 312 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: a huge upside. Last one for me, J j R. 313 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Second white side from Stanford Buck. He's got forty contested 314 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: catches over the last two years. He's gonna make plays 315 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: down in the red zone. He's quicker than people give 316 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: him credit for. He's quick off the line of scrimm 317 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: and she's quick in and out at the top of 318 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: his route. I think he's gonna be a good pro 319 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I feel like the floor 320 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: is very high for him. Oh, I mean, I think 321 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the floors and DJ. Part of what we're doing when 322 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about safe pix, I think is being able 323 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: to look at the prospect and say, I know exactly 324 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: what I can do with you. I know exactly what 325 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: role you feel and you will excel in that role. 326 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: We've heard the Patriots talk about that for so long, 327 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: how they put guys in roles and the reason that 328 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: they are able to get production out of guys that 329 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: other teams goodness because they only ask their guys to 330 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: play certain roles and that allows them to always play 331 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: to their strengths. And so with j J or a 332 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: white side look, I expect him to be a red 333 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: zone weapon, a guy that can win those balls along 334 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: the border or in the middle of the field, and 335 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: third down, when it comes to moving the chains. He 336 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: is always going to be able to do that. I 337 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: kind of envised him. He's not the same kind of 338 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: player in terms of Michael Thomas, but the way that 339 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: the Saints used Michael Thomas over the middle to field 340 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: as a big slot receiver, maybe our Saga white side 341 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: can do that and do some of things on the 342 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: outside down in the rezone. All right, Buck, before we 343 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: get to the risky players, let's get something straight your teeth. 344 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Smile Direct Club strange your teeth for less than embraces, 345 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: but invisible a liner sent directly to you. 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I'll give you 364 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: the floor for the first one. Well, everyone swinging for defenses. 365 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm going big and I'm gonna go with DK metcalf 366 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: right out the gate um. You talk about a boom 367 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: a bus prospect in terms of a guy who has 368 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: outstanding speed, great physical dimensions, but when you look at 369 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: the tape um, he's a guy that runs kind of 370 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: like four routes. He's a go post, deep over and 371 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: occasionally a slant runner who makes plays down the field 372 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: because he can just out run everybody. If you take him, 373 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: and if you ask him to be a complete route 374 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: tree runner, you can be disappointed because I don't believe 375 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: he is a guy that is truly a number one receiver. However, 376 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: I think if he's a compliment on the backside, basically 377 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: a big and more physical version of tig in Junr. 378 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: He can be a dominant player. They maybe gets you 379 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: a thousand yards and ten touchdowns on occasion because he 380 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: is just so dominant as a vertical playmaker. Yeah, that's 381 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: a good one. I'm gonna go to the defensive side 382 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: of the ball though, And I think maybe the biggest 383 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: boom or bus player in the entire draft for Shawn 384 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Gary from Michigan, who is just a freak. When you 385 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: talk about what does a freak look like, how about 386 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: six four and a half almost two pounds and he 387 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: ran four five eight UM. That is some freaky stuff 388 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: when you look at the testing. I think he plays hard. 389 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: I know some people have banged him on his effort. 390 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I thought I've seen the guy 391 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: win with speed. I've I've seen him convert speed to power. 392 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: The problem is, yeah, I'm able to locate the football 393 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: and he doesn't get a name in the box score 394 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: as much as you would like for somebody you're gonna 395 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: take in the top ten. You know, he battle a 396 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: little bit of an injury. Uh, people can uh say. 397 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: I don't like how he was used. At the end 398 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: of the day, he just doesn't simply have the production 399 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: you normally see from a top ten pick. And you're 400 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: looking for comparisons, Uh, to me different situations in terms 401 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 1: of one was a five star recruit, the other one 402 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: was kind of an unknown Baziggiansa and coming into the league. 403 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: You saw the athlete he was and you had to 404 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: project a little bit of of the production. Say, the 405 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: production will come. He's got all the skills you need. 406 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: It's up to the defensive line coach kind of get 407 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: that out of him. But Shawn gary Buck, if we 408 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: look back five years from now and he's been to 409 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: some Pro Bowls and had fourteen fifteen sacks seasons, I 410 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. Um, if he's on his second team, 411 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be totally surprised. So there is a huge 412 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: variance there which you can get. Yeah, huge variance just 413 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: in terms of, like you see the athleticism, but it 414 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: doesn't match up to the production that pops off the tape. 415 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: I have a similar player, different risk. I'm gonna go 416 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: with Jako Polite from Florida. Uh, Jako Polite. I love 417 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: the tape in terms of the way that he plays 418 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: the motor, the effort, the energy, the sack production to 419 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: force formal production. I like all of those things. However, 420 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: I am a little leary on what he's going to 421 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: be able to do because he didn't work out well. Uh, 422 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: he didn't interview will when he had his opportunity at 423 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: the Combine and at pro days, and so you just 424 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: don't know. And then you find out that he's had 425 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: a suspension from Florida, So you wonder, look, is this 426 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: a guy that's going to be able to kind of 427 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: total line when it comes to the protocol and the 428 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: expectations that are needed for him to be a spectacular pro. 429 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do know. If I can 430 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: get him to the field and if he avoids all 431 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: the other stuff, I think he has a chance to 432 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: be a really good player. Yeah. It taps pretty good, man. 433 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: When you look at the tape, there's a there's a 434 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: lot to like there. I'm gonna go to the secondary 435 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: and Greedy Williams had him down. I just struggled with, 436 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: hadn't want to struggle with the whole time. And I 437 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: just know, Look, he's he's got the heightweight, speed you 438 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: look for. He's got some plays on the ball that 439 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: are impressive. I think he's more smooth and fluid than 440 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: he is just sudden and twitched up. I think he's 441 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: kind of a strider with speed, and sometimes that worries 442 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: you at the corner position because there's a lot of transition, 443 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: a lot of quick change of direction. I don't know 444 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: that he's great there, you know, I can kind of 445 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: get through that. My issue is just his lack of 446 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: tough lack of desire in the run game. Tough, yeah, 447 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: And it's he's just allergic. He's allergic to tackling. And 448 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: when I look at a corner like that, and I 449 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: look at the way the game's played right now, Buck, 450 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: you can. I can guarantee you in his first game, 451 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: his first regular season game, within the first five plays, 452 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: he is going to see toss, He's going to see 453 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: fly sweep. They are going to challenge him and force 454 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: him to make tackles and be aggressive and fill in 455 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: the run game. But it's gonna happen. He's gonna definitely 456 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: get challenged in that area, and how he reacts to 457 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: it's going to determine what he's going to be as 458 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: a pro. Yes, you've gotta be tough enough, Like I mean, 459 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: despite a miss normandad oh, a cover corner can just 460 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: float out there. Their liabilities in the run game and 461 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: tough to do that now, man, Yeah, like people put 462 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: you under rusher because not only the run game, but 463 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: you gotta be able to stop these wide receives with 464 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: the bubble screens. Teams are taking advantage of weak corners 465 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: by throwing those bubble screens and Fila swities over and 466 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: over and over again. So it is mandatory now that 467 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: you have to be a tackler. You have to be 468 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: you have to be a trained killer, but you have 469 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: to be willing to kind of stick your nose and 470 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: then you gotta put your face in the fan and 471 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: make things happen. So for Greedy Williams, he is going 472 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: to have to flip the switch and become a tougher 473 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: uh tackler, a tougher competitor than he displayed during his 474 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: time in college. I have a guy that it's not similar, 475 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: but I do wonder not necessary about his toughness, but 476 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: can his game translate to the pros. And that's Brian 477 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: Burns Uh the defensive band from Florida State and one 478 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I have a concern is he 479 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: played significantly lighter than he showed up at the combine, 480 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: and when you watched him on tape, he's a speed rusher, 481 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: only he wants to go up the field and win 482 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: with first step quickness and burst. He has an occasional 483 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: spin move that he used to get inside. But I 484 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: wonder at the size and weight that he played at 485 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: at Florida State, how is he going to handle when 486 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: offensive tackles put their hand on him. Does he have 487 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: the strength to be able to ward off those long 488 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: arm blockers. Is he can be able to dip and 489 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: rip and get past him. I just don't know. We 490 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: met him here path to the draft big man in 491 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: terms of size, but canny hold that weight when we 492 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: get into the thick of the season. It's a huge concern. 493 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: And because of that, I'm worried about him being kind 494 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: of a one tree pony when it gets to the 495 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: next level. Yeah, it's a it's a tricky evaluation. You've 496 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 1: got the barkbious mingo thing that kind of hangs over 497 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: your head a little bit and it doesn't want to 498 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: make that mistake, So you know, that's a tough evaluation. 499 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: I'll stay on the defensive front Tristan Hill from Central Florida. 500 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: If you just want to look at somebody that's dynamic 501 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: and explosive inside, and he might he has the capabilities 502 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: of being one of the best players in this draft. 503 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: And you just see the flashes, their wild flashes because 504 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: you have a changeover in staff. It's been well documented 505 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: he only started one game this year, but you flip 506 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: on the tape at the end of the season and 507 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: you see him. He is disruptive, he is explosive. I 508 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: think he's so talented. Buck. He's a classic second round pick. 509 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: To me, Uh, somebody's just gonna say, hey, I was 510 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: never not gonna take that risk in round one. Um, 511 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: But man, I don't see him getting out of the 512 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: second round. The ability level is too good, The ability 513 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: of it is too good. And when you get into 514 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: the second round, you're really trying to throw a dart 515 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: and trying and hit on someone that can be a 516 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: starter and a key contributor. He is showing that potential 517 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: and that's going to give him a chance. And so 518 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: you hope for some of these guys it just comes 519 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: together with the right coaching, the right environment. I do 520 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: believe peer pressure matters. Sometimes that can get people to 521 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: elevate their games because they feel the standard is raised 522 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: and they want to meet the standard. Give me, give 523 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: me one more, here, one more. I'm gonna go with 524 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: one of my favorites, but there's some risk involved. How 525 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: about Jalen Ferguson from Louisiana Tech. Uh. He's one of 526 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: my favorites because the production is there. You've seen on 527 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: multiple occasion. Look, he finishes the FBS all time sack leader. 528 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: He shattered uh turrell sugs record and finished with forty 529 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: five sacks, and so sack production translates. You see him 530 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: play violent. He has a mean streak that I like. 531 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: I like the dog that he has in him, But 532 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: there are some concerns. He puffed up he got bigger 533 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: uh in the offseason doing this pre draft process. Some 534 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: of it was to show people that maybe he could 535 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: be a bigger and better and more explosive athlete. Didn't 536 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: really test well and so for me, I'm hoping that 537 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: he goes back to his normal weight. I'm hoping that 538 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: he retains the edge that made him a dominant player 539 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: in college. If he does that, I think he has 540 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: a chance to be a really good player, probably not 541 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a first round pick, but I think he 542 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: can be a guy that outplays his draft status because 543 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: he does understand the art of rushing the pass. And 544 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: then I have one to throw after you, guys, what 545 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: about Dalton Risner. This is the guy if you watch 546 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: them against Mississippi State earlier this year, he kind of 547 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: owned Montest sweat and did really well against that the 548 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: line which is gonna have two high picks. But I noticed, 549 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: you know he's number four on your list, DJ, He's 550 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: not in the top five for you in terms of 551 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: tackles or interior guys. Bucky, what about him is maybe 552 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: a question? And what is his boom or bus potential? Yeah, 553 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: he's interesting because the things that I like about him, Man, 554 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: he's a scrapper. He's a tough, hard nosed guy on 555 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: the edge. He did have a good game, a solid 556 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: game against Montes where we was able to kind of 557 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: neutralize him and and and stuff him, and he showed potential. 558 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: At the Senior Bowl. He held his own against all 559 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: the type guys that were there. Um, I think what 560 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: I worry about maybe some of the lateral quickness, like 561 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: when he has to face like the elite guys coming 562 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: off the edge. Is he going to be able to 563 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: share shadow and mirror some of those guys? But I 564 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 1: like the tough guy factor. I think for him, UH, 565 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: team fit, scheme fit is really important. I would prefer 566 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: that he went to a team that is a little 567 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: more rugged in their approach in terms of maybe run first, 568 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: past second, allow him to kind of come out of 569 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: his stance and just mall people. Then I think it's 570 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: easier for him to then mall and reset when it 571 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: up to those play actually passes. Yeah, question is is 572 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: he gonna end up playing UH tackler or center? Me 573 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: He's played center early on in his career. There's a 574 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: lot of teams that feel like he slides in there. 575 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: He's got really strong hands, he's got a real strong core. 576 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: Um just sometimes his feet are a little bit slow 577 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: to get two spots and he can get away with 578 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: that the collegiate level. At the NFL level, that's gonna 579 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: get you in trouble. Also, he's a little bit of 580 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: a heel clicker, which can mess with your balance a 581 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: little bit. If you think about a pass set, you 582 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: want to have some some base and balance there. It's 583 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: hard to do that when your legs are coming together. Um, 584 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: and those are again some things you can get away 585 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: with at the college level. You can't get away with 586 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: that at the NFL level. So a couple of things 587 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: he just needs to clean up again. I have him 588 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: at at forty, so I have him as a as 589 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: an early second round pick. I think he'll be a 590 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: solid player. I just don't view him as an as 591 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: an upper echeal on big time dude, but he'll be 592 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: a starter. You don't have to worry about him. And 593 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: then I think it would be a good pro Alright, 594 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: but my last one, I'm gonna go quarterback. You talked 595 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones. We mentioned him being a safer pick 596 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: to meet. Jared Stidham is the one kind of a 597 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: could be a hero or zero if you just watched 598 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: him in shorts, as we both had a chance to 599 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: do at the Elite eleven. He spends it as well 600 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: as anybody in this draft class. He's got a beautiful 601 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: motion and beautiful arm. The ball pops. Um. It hasn't 602 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: really worked out great at Auburn. This uh, this system 603 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: was not very friendly to him. We're talking about Someway 604 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: that's got size he's athletic, he's got a big arm, 605 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: all the character stuff, the intelligence, he checks those boxes. 606 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: It just hasn't always shown up on the field. So 607 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: to me, third round swing for the fences, you might 608 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: get something there with yours Todham. Yeah, like, I think 609 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: the guy's wired the right way in terms of he 610 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: he strikes me as a guy that is high I 611 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Q very diligent and deliberate worker when it comes to 612 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: learning and mastering offenses. I think the arm talent is sufficient. 613 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: I think he can make the throws that you need 614 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: to make when you're starting quarterback in the league. For 615 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: whatever reason, when he was at Auburn didn't necessarily play 616 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: in a system that matched his talent, and so we 617 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to really see him. But I 618 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: think you have to remember he was a highly decorated recruit, 619 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: show flashes at Baylor that he could be a big 620 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: time guy. So I think this is a situation where 621 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: if he's matched up with the right coach and given 622 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: time to kind of sink into us, to kind of 623 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: settle into a system, I think he has a chance 624 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: to be a starting quarterback down the line. Yeah, I'm 625 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. We'll see what happens 626 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: with Some of these risky players could hit it big 627 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: or you could miss. That's the that's the beauty of 628 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: the NFL draft, you know, Buck. It can be a 629 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry, are running 630 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: late to find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for 631 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: a train, and if the signals are going and the 632 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: train's not even there yet, you can feel a little 633 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: bit tempted to try and sneak across the tracks. Well, 634 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: don't ever, trains are often going a lot faster than 635 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: you expect him to be, and they can't stop. Even 636 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 1: if the engineer hits the breaks right away, it can 637 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: take a train over a mile to stop. By that time, 638 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: what used to be your car is just a crushed 639 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: hunk of metal, and what used to be you well 640 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: better not think about that. The point is you can't 641 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: know how quickly the train will arrive. The train can't 642 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: top even if it sees you. The result is disaster. 643 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: If the signals are on, the train is on the way, 644 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: and you just need to remember one thing, stop because 645 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: trains can't. Alright, Black, We're coming to the h latter 646 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: portion of today's podcast. But I do believe we've saved 647 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: the best for last. I know we've saved the fastest 648 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: for last. And you'll know what I'm talking about when 649 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: you hear our conversation with the man named Hollywood. Alright, Black, 650 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: We're couldn't be more excited to be joined by the 651 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: most explosive player in the two thousand nineteen NFL draft. 652 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: Some know him as Marquises, but we know him as Hollywood, 653 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: and that's how the world is gonna know him once 654 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: he gets into the NFL. Hollywood Brown from Oklahoma joined us. 655 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: How you doing, man? Doing good? I'm doing good things, 656 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: And I gotta ask you first of all, and then 657 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: I'll get over to Buck here. Just how how's the 658 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: foot feel? And how's your health? Right now? It's feeling good. 659 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: It's coming along really good. You know, it's been gaining 660 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: me a lot of confidence. Um just started boat you know, running, 661 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: doing some you know, different dreams and mobility work. So 662 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: you know everything is on schedule. You know, Hollywood, you 663 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: had an outstanding final season. How much did that injury 664 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: plague you at the end of the year, particularly when 665 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: we saw you, uh in the playoffs? Uh, it was tough. 666 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I try to stick it out for my 667 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: team and as being at anything I could do, you know, 668 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: if I was a decoded or if I was just 669 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, anything I could do to help, That's what 670 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: I was trying to do. So I wasn't really it was. 671 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: It was one of the end of the games that 672 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: the season. So if we would have had another game 673 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: after that, I probably would have still, you know, try 674 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: to go, well, what is the team that drafts you getting? 675 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't look back at my notes and my my 676 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: favorite line that I wrote down after watching it was 677 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: was two words. It was sudden death because it was like, 678 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you are in the field, Uh, 679 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: you're capable of putting that thing into the paint and 680 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: making things happen. But when you watch the game on Sundays, 681 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: it's somebody you watch and say, Okay, I know I 682 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: can do that. That's what I want to be at 683 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: the next level. Yeah, I watch a combination of guys, 684 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, question I watched a b but then you know, 685 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I always grew up watching the Sean Jackson, I watched 686 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill, you know, I watched I watch a lot 687 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: of guys, you know, even bigger as he was, like 688 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: I like DeAndre Hopkins. So it's just their mentality out 689 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: there is like they they're fearless out there and that's 690 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: how I played the game and fearless and anytime I 691 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: do touch it, you know what I'm trying to school 692 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, you have a unique relationship with a b 693 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown being a cousin but also being a mentor. 694 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: What have you learned from watching him, from interacting and 695 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: working out with him to really help you become a 696 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: better player. It's to be a pro, you know. It's 697 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: he taught me a lot, you know, from off the 698 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: field or on the field, and it's just my mentality 699 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: out there, you know. You know I'm training. You gotta 700 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: train how you play, you know, And that's that's just 701 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: what he taught me as man metality. And when you 702 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: out there, you know, you gotta thank you the most 703 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: dominant on the field. I want to act you real 704 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: quick about you know, the way things kind of ended 705 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: there in Pittsburgh with Antonio, it got a little bit messy. 706 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: I know he's happy to be in Oakland, uh now 707 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: going forward, But if the Pittsburgh Steelers were the draft, 708 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: you when you have any issue at all playing for 709 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers, No, not at all. You know even how 710 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: no issue is that you know they I love it 711 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: was a very you know, they got Hall of Fame 712 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: quitted back. You know, I love it there. You know 713 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood coming into this process, like the Combine process, you 714 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: couldn't participate in it, but at some point you can 715 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to get back on the field. When 716 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to get back on the field, 717 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: bid at rookie minicamp or training camp, what are some 718 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: of the things that you want to show people or 719 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: remind people that you're able to do on the field. 720 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show him that you know that I played 721 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: a lot bigger than what my size may say. And 722 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: you know when you watch the games, you don't know 723 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: how big I am. So I'm gonna remind people that 724 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, it ain't no issue. Yeah, I don't think 725 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an issue. That's one of the things 726 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: that I loved about you is even though you're not 727 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: the tallest guy in the world, you play above the rim. 728 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: You go tack the football, uh and you're strong there 729 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: at the catch point, you know, and thinking about your 730 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: love of playing there. There have been some successful receivers. 731 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: D D. Westbrook was the last one to go from 732 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: there and he's had some success in the league. What 733 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: is it about playing wide receiver in Oklahoma that is 734 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: going to allow you to have a media success in 735 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: the pros? It's just um practice. Like I said, what 736 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: they asked for you here. You know, they asked for 737 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: you to block. They're gonna let you run the routes. 738 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: And you know, coach Riley, he does a good job, 739 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: and Coach Simmons, coach Gunned, they do a good job 740 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: with your serious here and helping you develop and really studying, 741 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: studying film and habits like that, you know, helped translate 742 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: to the next level. The last question, last question for me, 743 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let you go and look forward to 744 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: a on you as you go through this process. We 745 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: have you the top wide receiver, uh in this draft class? 746 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: Just in your own words, Why are you the premier 747 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: white out in this year's class? Honestly, you know, I 748 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: don't really get into you know who talk not. I 749 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: just know what I brand to the table, and you know, 750 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm a guy that really loves to win. At the 751 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, the film gonna speak, 752 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: But as far as a person, I want to win 753 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: this game and I want to win every game. So 754 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: that's just what I'm gonna brand to the table. You know, 755 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: I want to win. That's fantastic. We'll dude that we 756 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking some time for us today. Finally, Uh, 757 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: it's finally here. A little more over a little a 758 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: week from now, you'll know where you're going and we're 759 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: excited to follow you through the process. But thanks, man, 760 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: appreciate y'all. Hey, what a fantastic conversation with Hollywood Brown. Uh. Man. 761 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: He is everything that we're expecting to be as a playmaker. 762 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: But I think his insight on the quarterbacks and how 763 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: he is in proved uh as a player and what 764 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: he wants to accomplish at the pros. That is the 765 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: stuff that we talked about separates two good from the great. 766 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna have an opportunity to be 767 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: a great one at the next level. I'm with you 768 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: on that great to uh to catch up with that 769 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: stud receiver from Oklahoma. All right, that's gonna do it 770 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: for us. Today. We are a week out from the 771 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We will have our draft special coming uh 772 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: to you next week from Nashville. I'll be out there 773 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: and Buck will get a chance to catch up on 774 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: all the last minute buzz where we see this draft going. 775 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: Cannot wait to get out there. Also, we have our 776 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: three sixty series. It is out there, trust me, it's 777 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: it's some of the best stuff we've ever done. Dwayne Haskins, 778 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, Daniel Jones, a Clemson defensive line and soon 779 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: we will have we will release the Kyler Murray three sixty, 780 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: which is one of the best we've ever done in 781 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: my opinion. Buck, Yeah, it's fantastic man. Kyler Murray and 782 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: all the people talking about him, they really ship a 783 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: lot of light on the Heisman Trophy winner. Remember, you 784 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: can check out the Move, the six podcasts NFL dot com, 785 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: Slash Podcast, Apple Podcast, or your favorite podcast appen all 786 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: of our video content NFL dot com, Slash, MTS Video, YouTube, 787 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: dot Com Slash n f L. Thank you guys so 788 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: much for listening to the show. Do yourself a favor. 789 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Bucky Brooks. You can check out 790 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: what Bucky's talking about. As we head towards the twenty 791 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: nineteen NFL Draft. You can check out not only his 792 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: positional rankings, mock drafts all that good stuff. You can 793 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: find my mock draft on NFL dot com as well. 794 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: We will catch you next time. Thank you for listening, 795 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and 796 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. For more, go to nfl dot com Slash 797 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: Podcast