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Speaker 1: you know, the songs are on the radio now and

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428
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Speaker 1: slash Bones. Okay, so you know do you talk about

482
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: songs you wrote for other people? I have a list

483
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: of them here. You mentioned say you do which dark

484
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: stick number one? And you wrote this one drive the

485
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: Matt Yeah, Matt nine, Shane McNally. This, let's go back

486
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: a little bit better Dick to Bampierre. Yeah, that was

487
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: my first number one. Actually, boy, this song was an

488
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: anthem for a while. It was, I mean, just how

489
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: it starts all of this, the production of the song,

490
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: that this is a big one. It was that one.

491
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: That was another one where I hadn't had any hits yet.

492
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: I had the Craigmoker one on the radio, and I

493
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: remember we wrote this one. That was me and Brandy

494
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: Clark and Shane mcinnely wrote a Better Dig two and

495
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: Shane produced the demo. I mean this is before any

496
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: of us. I mean Shane, I think at that point

497
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: had on number one and he was starting to get

498
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: a lot of attention. But um, Shane would produce a

499
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: lot of the demos. And actually Casey Musgrave was saying

500
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: that demo for us. That was before she had a

501
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: record deal or anything. And I remember when he sent

502
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: me the demo, I'm like, oh my god, like we're

503
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: going to have a hit for sure. And then we

504
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: still pitched that around all around town and couldn't get

505
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: it cut. Was it as intense the demo as intense

506
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: as the track ended up being produced. Mike played a

507
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: little bit from the beginning. I better if you can

508
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: pull that up, because it's it hits. Oh yeah, yeah.

509
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: When he sent me the demo, it was very I mean,

510
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: obviously they you know, their production is bigger. It's a

511
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: it's a major label production. But yeah, the demo is crazy.

512
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: I remember Shane sent it to me. I was out

513
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: of town and he sent me the demo and his

514
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: comment to me was he said, I said, how's this.

515
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: How's it the track sound? He said, this track is

516
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna fuck you up. I don't know if I can

517
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: say that. You can't. Okay, that's like international waters and

518
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. And I had did. I played it.

519
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: It sounded so different. It's funny now looking at it

520
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: through the lens of today because it sounded so crazy

521
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: different than anything else when he he um sent me

522
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: the demo, and uh yeah, it was and I remember

523
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, this is gonna be the biggest Miranda head.

524
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: We're pitching to Miranda and Carrie Underwood. And then and

525
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: then when the band Perry wanted to cut it, you know,

526
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, they're kind of a newer band,

527
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: And it actually ended up being the best thing that

528
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: could happen because when you have that song that helps

529
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: really break a new artist, then it becomes like a

530
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: big staple for them. So I mean like, and it's

531
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: already dropped picked out of that here. I mean it's strong.

532
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean I think about how just intense the song

533
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: with the banjo or whatever that is the beginning. Yeah,

534
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: they did such a great job on it in case

535
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: He's yeah, that's funny. Do you still have that somewhere,

536
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: like in a phone somewhere. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a

537
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: cool thing for like ten years from now. I know.

538
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: I played because my kids are big Casey Musgues fans too,

539
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: and my daughter, she's seven, she asked me to play

540
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: every song I ever write. She's like, play me whatever

541
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: songs you have, and and she loves Casey. And I

542
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: was like, you know what I have, and I played

543
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: it for her. She was her mind was blown. Five kids,

544
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: four four kids, Amy my co host. If you don't

545
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: listen to the radio show, my co host Amy, my

546
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: best friend. Um, she wasn't. We were on the air

547
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: one day and we're playing this game and I was like, okay,

548
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: I'll read you all the people in the band. You

549
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: tell me who the band is. And I was reading

550
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: all you guys I've done like Freddie Mercury, you know,

551
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: it was like third eye blind everyone. And I read

552
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: all of you guys names, and she goes, no idea,

553
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, Amy, they've been in the studio

554
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: like eight times and friendly. She's like, I have no idea,

555
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: and so I said, no, that's all. That's all Dominion,

556
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, I don't know. I just

557
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 1: gotta see them. I don't know their names. The name

558
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: is the kindest person ever, a little a little fluffy sometimes,

559
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: but I had a little bit but like great and

560
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: so um she said. She texts me. She goes, um,

561
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm on the flight whatever from the old Dominion and

562
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: he just put he he just texts me We're going

563
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: to Disney, like maybe at the same time. And he

564
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: just texts me and then resigned his name again so

565
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: I would know it was him. And so I thought

566
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: that was pretty funny. Yeah, she felt pretty bad about that.

567
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: Oh it was funny. I never remember people's names either,

568
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: so I certainly didn't take offense, but I did. I

569
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: didn't pass up the opportunity to rub it in on Twitter.

570
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: So and then she goes, hey, we hung out with river.

571
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: And this is what she said about you. She said

572
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: your kids were the most well behaved kids. And she's

573
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: and you have four kids. I have four kids. She's like,

574
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: they're the most well behaved kids. Have no said, I

575
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: have no idea how he gets in behavior like that. Well,

576
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: they must have been having an on day. How How

577
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: old your oldest um? Fourteen? She'll be fifteen this summer.

578
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: Fourteen year old kids? Yeah, and my son just durned

579
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: thirteen while we were out there, Holy crap. And how

580
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: old your youngest five? You got any more coming? You're done? Officially?

581
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: Are you sure? I'm let's hope it took time? How rare?

582
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: How recent is that is? That it was two years ago?

583
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: Is that painful or now it wasn't too bad? Did

584
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: you do like the local anesthetic or do you just

585
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: go give it to me, Rob, I'm just gonna sit

586
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: here and take it. Just give it to me. Give

587
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: me a bullet, I'll bite it. Bullets and whiskey. Yeah,

588
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure that. Yeah, I think there was

589
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: a local shot there that that helped. But no, as

590
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: long as you have definitely have to do what they say.

591
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: They say, like, don't get up, don't try to do anything,

592
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna feel and feel like, oh, I could go

593
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: for a run. But they're like, don't be fooled. How

594
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: long you have to take off whenever you get this

595
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: a couple of days, just ice sit there in a

596
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: chair with some ice. ID. Okay, So I don't have

597
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: any kids, right, and I had I've had a dog

598
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: and for fifteen years I had this dog. Loved him

599
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: so much, right, and he was my best friend and

600
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: my dog my best friend. And he still had nuts

601
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: at about age eleven. And they said, you don't have

602
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: to cut your nuts off, right, your stepping nuts that right? Yeah?

603
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah they're still And they were like, you got I've

604
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: got you gotta cut your dog's nuts off. He's been

605
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: sick twice. It was the hardest thing I ever had

606
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: to It wasn't even mind nuts and had to snip them.

607
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Is tough and it's not really the same, but it

608
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: did a heart. It's the same. Yeah, I don't know.

609
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: That seems like something you got to do earlier, because

610
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: at eleven it wasn't fair to him. He's like, I've

611
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: had these things for eleven years where they go, but

612
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: dogs quickly forget though He's fine, I met a girl.

613
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: William Michael Morgan, this is the number one YE wrote

614
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: with Sam Hunt and Shane mcinally right. Yeah, she made

615
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: me wait, she crawled the street when you guys wrote

616
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: this because I heard Sam cut it? Did you guys

617
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: cut it with Sam in mind? And then he ended

618
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: up not putting it on the record. No, I mean

619
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: this was before Sam had a record deal. So um.

620
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean in much the same way a lot of

621
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: our songs ended up. We don't necessarily right with ourselves

622
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: in mind, and I think with Sam at that time,

623
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: we didn't know what Sam was going to sound like,

624
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, and we weren't necessarily going, oh, does this

625
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: sound like you? I mean when you're in the beginning stages.

626
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: He hadn't even signed a deal, he hadn't even cut anything,

627
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: and you don't really have a direction. You're just trying

628
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: to write a cool song. So it definitely sounded different.

629
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: I think when you guys heard William Michael Morgan do it,

630
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: we're like holy crowd that went traditional country quick. Yeah. Yeah.

631
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: I remember Scott Hendrix, who produced it. He was so

632
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: excited and he's like, I want you guys to come

633
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: here this it's it's not gonna sound like your demo

634
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: at all, but we love it and we want you

635
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: to come here. And yeah, I was blown away. I

636
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: couldn't believe how different it was, but how great it sounded.

637
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: It was cool because I think that's the coolest thing

638
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: when you can write a song that you could produce

639
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: it any different way and it's still a great song

640
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: and it's core. So it was pretty cool to hear

641
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: it that traditional and still love it. Sant Gria from

642
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Blake Shelton. This is Josh Osborne and Shane you know

643
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: that Josh and j T. Harding was all right, yeah,

644
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: j T, and here that Josh in here? You know,

645
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: j T, I don't think. I don't think. I know

646
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: you should have him in here. He's a riot. Yes,

647
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: yeah I don't. J We haven't had him in yet.

648
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: So you wrote this this actually, which was you know,

649
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: it's weird when a song flies up a chart, right,

650
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: because it's fun to have a song that ghosts the

651
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: number one. I bet right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

652
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: pretty fun. It's right. It's a cool thing. And you

653
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: like to get a Blake or Luke Cutter and Aldane

654
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: cut All, but they fly up the chart they do,

655
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: and it's like here they come and there they go,

656
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: Like you like to get them, You're happy you got them,

657
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: But it is there a part of you that goes,

658
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: that's such a good song, just a part of you,

659
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: because most of you is not. You just want the

660
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: song to be saying by Blake, that's awesome. He goes, Man,

661
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a number one, it's gonna be all

662
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: the chart before you can really like pay your bills. Yeah,

663
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that because I've had them die, you know.

664
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: I've definitely had songs that I thought were sure things

665
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: and and then they die. So for me, I just

666
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: go just keep going, go as fast as you want,

667
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: be a big hit, you know. And with that too,

668
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: I think that was a three week number one, and

669
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: you know it still gets played a lot. So if

670
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: if that's the case and it's going that quickly, then

671
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: then you hope it's just a big one that you

672
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: know continues we get play because guys like BLAKEE. Shelton,

673
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna have they have what thirty forty

674
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: singles that you know are going to be played for years.

675
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: So you hope that maybe you have one of those

676
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: ones that gets played for years. The first parody that

677
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: when we were just doing parodies my band The Raging Idiots.

678
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: Instead of Sangario, we did Tortilla. Do you remember that? Well,

679
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: good for us, we have pierced the consciousness of the

680
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: of the writers. Then we still play that sometimes I'll

681
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: play in during comedy shows. Nice, I'll grab my guitar

682
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: because that's the because at this point now I'll do

683
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: stand up and I'll we still play some band shows

684
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: and I think we were playing full band shows on

685
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: some festivals of you guys, but we're playing you guys

686
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: will play right after us, and uh, we see you going.

687
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: We could be coming off and you guys will be

688
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: going on. But like what up to see? We suck sorry,

689
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: have a good show. Um, but now I will play

690
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: that sometimes, like my do stand up because people like

691
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: play Sangaria or buy me a goat. We don't really

692
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: do any We don't do a lot of parodies now,

693
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: but um we were too good for rom Now we're

694
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: now that bang you're talking about. But yeah, that was

695
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the first one I ever did. It was I said

696
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: Eddie and noticed said, hey, this sand Gray song is

697
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: really good. Do you think you could write tortilla and

698
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: he's like, I said, you're Mexican. I really can't. I

699
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: can't write all of it as as a white guy.

700
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: So that was the first parody. Yeah, it was the

701
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: first one. Yeah, it was. It's kind of what launched

702
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Here. Uh, let me let me write.

703
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Let's see here right now on the chart, you have

704
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: one that got away from Michael rates in top five.

705
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: Put you write this one. Matt wrote this with Matt

706
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: and Jesse Fraser and Josh Osbourne. So you're writing these

707
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: songs and you go, it's good, but it's not good

708
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: enough for us to keep is that? What is that?

709
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: What it's like? No, not really, No, it's because this

710
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: one it was funny. Our manager Will he was like,

711
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: you're not going to cut this song. He wanted us to,

712
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: and we like this one. You have some we have

713
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: some good sense now of what is a hit or

714
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: is not a hit. So it wasn't whether we thought

715
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: it was a good song or whether it's a hit.

716
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: But it's this weird science of trying to figure out

717
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: what to record and not record, you know, And it's

718
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: like it can come down to so many different things.

719
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Do we already have a song in this vein or

720
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. But sometimes we just try to play it

721
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: and it either does or doesn't sound like us. And

722
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's no definition for that. There's just

723
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: there's just a gut feeling. So a lot of songs

724
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: we try out, and we did. We we definitely considered

725
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: this one pretty strongly, but you know, we didn't do

726
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: it. It It wasn't because we didn't like it. We immediately

727
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: started to pitch it because we did feel like it

728
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: was a hit. Is I look at this list year one, two, three,

729
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: four or five six? I see I don't know if

730
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: this is an accurate number, but I see ten number

731
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: one total? Is that about right? I think? So? So

732
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: when you write these songs that go number I just

733
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: wonder what it's like in this this part, this dynamic

734
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: with the band, and it's like if everybody's writing songs,

735
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: and obviously you want your song to get put on

736
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: the record, because again I keep the lights on the house,

737
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: you got nineteen kids feed, you know what I mean?

738
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: Like it does that dynamic ever get a little bit dicey?

739
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Does it ever go to a vote where it's like

740
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: he's got this song that feels the same as this song. Yeah,

741
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it really has come down to that yet,

742
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: because ultimately, whatever the best song is is best for

743
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: the band. Now, if do you feel like your song, like,

744
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: if it's close, don't you feel like your song is

745
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: the best, because I would. That's the hard part. Now,

746
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't see I might be the opposite. I might

747
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: be inclined to to not vote for my song, you know. Um,

748
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: But you know, y'all get a sense. I mean, it's

749
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: it's a five opinion kind of thing democracy. So I

750
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: do feel like sometimes if say, if there's two songs

751
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: that it's it's such a tie and they're so close,

752
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: and maybe you know, a few of us wrote the one,

753
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: where maybe only one of us wrote the other one,

754
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: maybe it could come down to that tiebreaker where we go, look,

755
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: this is an absolute tie. The tie goes to the

756
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: fact that more of us wrote the this one. I

757
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: think it hasn't come down to that yet, but I

758
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: could see it coming down to that. But at some

759
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: point you just gotta set it aside and go. You know,

760
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: if this is what everybody feels like it is the

761
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: best move for us, then that's just got to be

762
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: the best move. So is there anyone in the band

763
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't write as much like they got? Like, you

764
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: know what, you guys are the real songwriters. I'm just

765
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna play my answer and be on stage drop star. Yeah.

766
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, well, Matt and Brad and I do most

767
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: of the writing, you know. I mean we've been writing

768
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: in Nashville for years with publishing deals and really doing

769
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: the Nashville songwriting thing, you know. So you know Jeff

770
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: and Witt also, right, you know they played in bands

771
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: for years and played original stuff, and you know what

772
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: they do is definitely a big part of the writing

773
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: and a part of the sound. But yeah, I mean

774
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: in the conventional Nashville songwriting way, Yeah, it's it's mostly

775
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: Matthew and Brad and I. I would think as someone

776
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: who tried again, I just love the dynamics of a

777
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: group because I'm gonna group myself, right, my morning shows

778
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: a group. I have eight personalities. I mean, I'm the boss,

779
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: but still like Amy matters sometimes more than mine does,

780
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: because she if she's not good, I'm not good. You know,

781
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: lunchbox I have, and then I have a band, and

782
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: then I have you know, all these different like groups

783
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: where the group dynamic really does affect things. What if

784
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: like why why are why are you not the lead singer?

785
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Like when was that a conversation? I'm not as good

786
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: as not come down to well, No, I mean yeah,

787
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: first of all, I mean Brad is a great singer.

788
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: But I think Matt is one of the best singers

789
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: I know. I just think he's got a lot of

790
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: character to his voice, and he's just got a great voice.

791
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: And no, that was never in question. I think I

792
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: was a fan of Matt before I ever thought about

793
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: being in the band. You know, even when we wrote together.

794
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: If he was playing playing out somewhere, I'd I'd go

795
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: watch him. Don't want pill one off? They'll be like

796
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: I got this some boys, I don't really I know

797
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Brad does. I mean Brad sang one on the last record.

798
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a part of Brad that would love

799
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: to put out his own record or maybe sing more,

800
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: which I would be all in favor of. I think

801
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Brad is a great singer. The Eagles they all sing right, yeah,

802
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: most of them. The Google Dolls, I hate it on

803
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: their basis saying no, I don't know if you ever

804
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: listened to Google Dolls he did like two tracks. It

805
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: would be like Johnny sing the songs and like two tracks,

806
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: he'd throw a bone at the basis and I'd be like,

807
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: here I am. It was just weird. I didn't know that.

808
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: Actually I knew like in the recent like Weezer records,

809
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have that too. Hey that because

810
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Weezer fan. Because once you've already established like, hey,

811
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: this guy is the sound of the band, I think

812
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: it's harder. That was the thing with brad last album.

813
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Like I was glad he got one in and I

814
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: thought like, man, it would be cool if we had

815
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: two or three, you know, um to establish it early,

816
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: because once you don't establish it early, then it's not

817
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: going to sound like your band. But I do love

818
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: how the Eagles, you know, they had Glenn Fry and

819
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: Don Henley and even you know, some of the other

820
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: guys saying one kid, yeah, yeah, and then you know,

821
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: like obviously the Beatles. I do love that when there's

822
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: a versatility, but it's a little bit harder to do.

823
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: And today's musical climate, I guess, I mean, people have

824
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: short attention span. They're not going to realize it's old dominion.

825
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: If it's not Matt singing so and and I agree

826
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: with what you're saying. But also if someone gets sick,

827
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: someone can can cover pretty easily and do the songs.

828
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: Or if someone gets kicked out of the band. I'm

829
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: just saying, like if Matt Fire is one of us,

830
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: like yeah, stop it. Like the Bear Naked Ladies, right,

831
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: they kicked out the singer Stephen, He's not even in

832
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: the band anymore. They got together for the Canadie I'm

833
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: a big Bear Naked Lady fan. Um, they got together

834
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: for the Canadian Hall of Fame, but they kicked him

835
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: out years ago, and so ed the guy who does

836
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: the rapping, who can also sing, is now the full singer.

837
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: But because he had sang so much early, it's not

838
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: that weird because now you just go and like the

839
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: drummer sings a little bit. Oh he's got it's band. Yeah,

840
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: if he can do that, then it's I man. I

841
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: used to drive to the ice to work in a marina.

842
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: You have many jobs before, yes, what you do? Oh? Man? Well,

843
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: the one that I had most recently I worked at

844
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: best Buy here in Cool Springs for like eight years,

845
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: Home Theater for eight years I think it was seven

846
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: or eight years down here. Yeah, even through like two

847
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: publishing deals, I still had my job there doing just

848
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: sold TVs surround sound systems. Yeah, crazy, I used to

849
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: work out. The reason I talked about the marina is

850
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: I used to drive to the marina every day when

851
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: I was filling up boats and fixing boats and driving

852
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: around pontoons. And that song it's been that. I mean,

853
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: that song reminds me. Yeah, I'm driving to the to

854
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: the to the marina. By the way, let mention that

855
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: you have Kelsey song I hate love songs. Yes, yeah,

856
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: this is this one too. Could you write this way?

857
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: I wrote it with Kelsey and Shane McNally. Yeah. You

858
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: and Shane right a lot together. We do well, he

859
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: used to and we both kind of don't see each

860
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: other as much. But yeah, I mean the funny thing

861
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: people you know, you think of like Shane mcinnaley or Josh.

862
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: I was one of these guys like, oh, these big

863
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: hit songwriters. But when we started out, you know, the band,

864
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: and we have the band arc, you know, as part

865
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: of our story, but really the songwriting arc, you know,

866
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Matthew and I and Shane and Josh and matt Jenkins

867
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: and Brandy Clark. We didn't have anything going on back then,

868
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: so I mean we used to write with each other

869
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: all the time and and just had this kind of

870
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: sound with each other. So I mean we've written hundreds

871
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: of songs probably together. Yeah, it's funny to see whenever

872
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: they make you guys and Brothers Osborne up. Yeah. First

873
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: of all, you don't even look the same. There's really

874
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: nothing close in Brothers Osborne. I guess there are two words.

875
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you that. I've tried to

876
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: figure it out too, I have to what do you

877
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: think it is? I don't know because there are two

878
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: guys in that band. I guess I would understand if

879
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: it were like an f GL thing where it's another

880
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: duo or a Dan and Shane. They're mixing up the duo.

881
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean they're taller, they sound different. There's only not there.

882
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: I love it though. Now it's funny because you guys

883
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: have both kind of made a name for yourself in

884
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: different ways. You're you know, both successes. It's it is

885
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: really funny and now it's a thing because it's happened

886
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: how many times. But I don't know why they keep

887
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: mixing you guys up. I really don't know, like now,

888
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: like sometimes i'm do those people really mix us up?

889
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Or are they just sent on the joke now? But yeah,

890
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: that's funny. Does the old you guys ever go? Do

891
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: have you played at school school Ald Dominion? Ah? Yeah,

892
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: we played there. I think last summer. Was that a thing? No? Um,

893
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: do they care? I don't I can't remember. I don't

894
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: feel like they hyped it up too much as Old Dominion.

895
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: At Old Dominion, I think there was a little bit

896
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: of element of that, but I don't know. Was it

897
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: weird to have the name? Was there any legal thing

898
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: like you can't call yourself Ald Dominion? Yeah? Actually we

899
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: almost weren't called Old Dominion. Um well, so early on,

900
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's so hard to pick a band name.

901
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the worst thing it can possibly

902
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: have to do because yeah, you're always self conscious. You know,

903
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna rip on you and shoot down anything everything, definitely. Um,

904
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: So you know we had to sit there and go, Okay,

905
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: well we're not gonna be named Matt Ramsey or whatever.

906
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: Let's figure out a band name or a band And

907
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: so we had tried so hard and we finally settled

908
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: on Old Dominion. Matt said that one days, like the

909
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: only thing I could think of that's related to Virginia

910
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: that hasn't been taken as Old Dominion, And we were like, well,

911
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? So we were Old Dominion for

912
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: like maybe two years and started to get some steam.

913
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: You know, we had some things going. We had already

914
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: put out a couple of songs on iTunes, and then

915
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: we were talking to our attorney and he's like, man,

916
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm just really concerned about the legalities of this. You know,

917
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: you got the peanut company, and you got the trucking company,

918
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: and you got the university and and the beer and

919
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: so man. We we actually got to the point where

920
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: we were sitting at a bar in Nashville trying to

921
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: come up with a new name and pretty much having

922
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: a band fight. And then I finally, I don't know,

923
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: I can be stubborn sometimes, but I was like, you

924
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: know what, this is stupid. I'm like, we can be

925
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: called the Dominion. And they were like, well no, he

926
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 1: the attorney says we could get sued, and I said,

927
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense to me. I'm like, there

928
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: is there is a university there is a peanut company.

929
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: They're they're not suing each other. There are already more

930
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: multiple old dominions, and so I'm like, I'm not doing this.

931
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call the attorney. And our attorney was like, man,

932
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. He said, really, you're probably right, except

933
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: the university is the one I'm afraid of um because

934
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: they have a marching band, they have merchandise that they sell.

935
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna get a

936
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: home with somebody. So I sat out there all day

937
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: and track down somebody at the university and just asked

938
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: people until I got to the right person, and I said, hey,

939
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: we're this band. We've been operating under this name. We

940
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: already have songs out, you know, is this an issue?

941
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: And they said no, as long as you don't use

942
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: our logo, we're not worried about it, you're good. And

943
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: so I took it back to the guys and I'm like,

944
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: does this satisfy everybody? And they're like, okay, I guess

945
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: we're still old dominion. You got it in writing, Yeah,

946
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the play getting in writing. Yeah. So

947
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: it was all out of like futility of being able

948
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: to come up with a new name. Any of the

949
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: names you guys talked about, I mean, I do know

950
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: they were all awful, um but man, and I can't remember.

951
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: I do remember playing the Wild Horse one time when

952
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: we were in limbo and we were like, let's just

953
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: be let's just tell her where Friday Eagle. The girl

954
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: would announce us when we would play the Wild Horse

955
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: as and she, you know, she'd go, what do you

956
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: guys called? Sometimes we'd just be Matt Ramsey or whatever.

957
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: And one time she was like, how do you want

958
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: me to announce you? And Matt was like, Friday Eagle.

959
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: She's like, ladies and gentlemen, Friday Eagle. It's pretty funny.

960
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: I thought the video of you guys playing was it

961
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: the Wild Horse and there's like one couple dancing. Oh yeah,

962
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: that was I couldn't believe Matt still had that on

963
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: his computer. It was just and I mean that in

964
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: the most sincere way. It was here you here, you guys,

965
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: are you got all these hits the band? You got

966
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: all these hits his Riders and you're playing to no

967
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: one right, And there's an old couple that are it

968
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: looks like they're two stepping to that summer and do

969
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: you want from memory that summer? That summer and it

970
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: was a hey, look even we like struggled our brains

971
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: out and nobody would come to our shows and look

972
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: at us now. And it wasn't look at us now,

973
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: like look at us now, but I was like, freaking

974
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: look at us now, like we can do this, you

975
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: guys can do this. Yeah, I was inspired by the video.

976
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty cool. Posts it was really cool.

977
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean that, like you said, that was that was

978
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: before any of the hits or anything. Fried Eagle Days.

979
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: It was Fried Eagle Days. Web might have been the

980
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: night we've announced ourselves as Frida Eagle. I was watching

981
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of band names, I was watching that Motley Crewe.

982
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: It's a biopic on Netflix. Have you seen the previous

983
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: for it. I've heard about it, but I haven't seen it.

984
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of a disaster, but you almost have to

985
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: watch it. Like I'm such a music nerd, Like give

986
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: me any sort of biography or a biopic, like I'll

987
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: watch I just consume music. And so I'm like, let

988
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: me watch this thing. And there's a whole scene where

989
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: they're they're going to with their name Motley Crew, and

990
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: I guess one of their names before it was Motley

991
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: Crewe was X M A S S like X mass

992
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: like X mess with the pentagram. Oh my god, it was,

993
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: but that was really one of their names. And I

994
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: was thinking when I was watching that, I was like,

995
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: nine point nine pers in the band. Names are so stupid.

996
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: We just accept them because they get a hit. And

997
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: there said so much over the over time. I remember

998
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Florida Georgia line when they I'm like, that's the dumbest

999
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: name ever. And now it's just their name. It's just

1000
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: part of it's just words that makes sense to us.

1001
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: I do remember tire Fire that was one of them

1002
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: throughout tire Fire. Really let's just be called tire fire,

1003
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: tire fire and yeah, and you sit there and go,

1004
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: this is a terrible, terrible name. But like it's not

1005
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 1: like dirty, gross grimy, like some backyard like you guys

1006
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: are grimy. Yeah, exactly, like dirty and grimy. So um,

1007
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: talk to me about like this whole new record that

1008
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: you guys have. Do you guys play on the record.

1009
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: We do, which is cool because that doesn't happen a

1010
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: lot in town. It doesn't. It's very rare. And uh,

1011
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: I think it's part of what makes us. You know,

1012
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: people a lot of times will tell us, oh, you

1013
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: guys sound like you. It sound like old dominion. And

1014
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: I think partly because we play, you know we it's

1015
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: it's Faust five and then this time, like Dave Cohen

1016
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: has played keys and coming and done some different things,

1017
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: so he's he's a big part of it too. Um.

1018
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: But almost aside from Dave, every note and every choice

1019
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: everything as you know, us playing and Shane producing and directing.

1020
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: So I think for we always say for better or worse,

1021
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, it makes it sound like us because you

1022
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: know we have limitations. Were not all studio level people,

1023
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: but you know, like, um, I think that gives us

1024
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: a fingerprint. Yeah, I think it's cool. I mean, and

1025
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: for those that aren't familiar a lot. I'll even say

1026
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: most records, even with bands, they'll bring in specifically trained

1027
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: session players that their life is actually playing you know,

1028
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: these guitar parts or the keys or um. But I

1029
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: always like when when bands will will use their own

1030
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: people as much as possible. Yeah, I do too, because

1031
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: you know, if you use all the same guys that

1032
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: everyone is using, sometimes those tracks start to sound all

1033
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: the same. You ever see the beach boy stuff what

1034
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: they used to do? Um, you know, I've heard some

1035
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: of the behind the scenes stuff. Brian Wilson like he

1036
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: would stay back and then we get the Wrecking Crew

1037
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: and the record play all the songs and they would

1038
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: go out and tour and Brian Wilson just stay back

1039
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: in the studio and you know, it's just making everything

1040
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: up and they have audience and sometimes the beach pots

1041
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: play on the records. You know, they come in and sing,

1042
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: but the records a pretty much be done. They go

1043
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: out and make all the money touring. You know, Brian

1044
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: Wilson's in with all the Wrecking Crew. Do you have

1045
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: seen Wrecking Crew documentary Netflix? I have not seen that?

1046
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: So good. There's a there's another one. Have you ever

1047
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: seen Standing Standing in the Shadows of Motown? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1048
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: I've watched that. I think it's a similar thing, right,

1049
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: have yes? Have you? We're just gonna have you seen um?

1050
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: But uh, I haven't seen hardly anything because your dad

1051
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: before kids. I just never watch anything like well, I

1052
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: don't have a girlfriend's I'm watching everything like, welly can

1053
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: I watch next? There's one that's about the guitar players

1054
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: in bands, like famous guitar players that that maybe you recognize,

1055
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: but and then it just goes through their stories and

1056
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. And there's not the background singer one

1057
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: where it's like it's like two ft from stardom or something,

1058
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: which is fantastic. It's so good because it's like they're

1059
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: so close and it's all these humongous acts. There's their

1060
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: background singing, like singing from Michael Jackson and people like that,

1061
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: like Cheryl Crow. Yeah, one of the most famous stories

1062
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: was a legit Michael Jackson background singer, which is crazy.

1063
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: So anyway, are you, like, do you practice still my instrument? Yeah,

1064
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean every day pretty much is practice. Well, not

1065
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: every day, but when we're on the road, I mean

1066
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: we're playing the show. You know, we're doing sound check.

1067
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean we with those songs. I guess you're playing

1068
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: songs you've played over and over, but I guess it

1069
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: keeps your skills up to some level. But you know,

1070
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm also not like a lead guitar player where I'm

1071
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: going to sit there and practice my scales. I think

1072
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: for me, I'm more of a song person. I think

1073
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: ultimately the biggest thing I contribute to the band is

1074
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: the songwriting aspect. So I'm always practicing that. You know,

1075
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: I think every day, what's your favorite song you've you've

1076
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: written that that we would know that it has made

1077
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: the light of day? Um man, it's so hard. Uh. Well,

1078
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the light of day

1079
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: necessarily what in a single? But there's a song on

1080
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: a Keith Urban album I wrote called the come Back

1081
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: to Me that he wrote Shane and Brandy Clark. It's

1082
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: just one of my favorite songs. I've ever like to

1083
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: hear a little bit of this one here it is

1084
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: your favorite, you know what, it's my favorite? That's the

1085
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: jam here. Yeah, just the lyric, it's just I think

1086
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: one of the best lyrics written. Um uh is it

1087
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: fuse if the lips that you want to get drunk on?

1088
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: What's the one song of yours that you thought would

1089
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: never really amount to it? Well, that's a weird question

1090
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: because you know you didn't write you don't write them

1091
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: to be discarded. But you're right, and you go, I

1092
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: don't know, let's just put it out there. And then

1093
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, well bam, um well,

1094
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 1: I loved the song so it's not because I didn't

1095
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: like the song, but I met a girl really you know.

1096
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: It was William Michael Martin. William Michael Morgan was a

1097
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: new artist. He didn't I just signed a record deal.

1098
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: And so a lot of those come along where oh,

1099
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: there's this new artist, we're gonna try to cut your

1100
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: song on them, and and you go, oh cool. You know,

1101
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: you're not jumping up and down or anything. You just

1102
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: think that's a cool thing. Um. So for a new

1103
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: artist to come out with a song like that and

1104
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: then it would be on the chart for a year

1105
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: and go all the way to number one, that one,

1106
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't see that coming. Which one of these

1107
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: did you write and go yep, that's a hit? Um?

1108
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: Better dig two was one. Took a while for it

1109
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: to happen after I wrote it, but yeah, yeah, that

1110
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: was definitely one. Um let me think what else? You know? Um,

1111
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: I would say, uh, a song for another time. I

1112
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: felt like when we wrote that one, we were almost

1113
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: we actually we were done with the album and then

1114
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: we wrote that and we we sound checked it in

1115
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: the stadium one day and I was like, this is

1116
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: a hit. This just feels like a big song. So

1117
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: we went back in and recorded it just for that

1118
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: album and a song we've never heard of that you

1119
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: thought this is gonna be a jam and it wasn't.

1120
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: Um hm, not so many actually a lot of them.

1121
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: You think that, and then you go back and listen.

1122
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, it wasn't as good as I thought.

1123
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: But um m hmm was it one of those tire

1124
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: fire songs? H yeah, we have a couple. I will

1125
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: tell you. I go down the rabbit hole sometimes in

1126
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: my iTunes, you know, with all my demos and work tapes,

1127
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: and sometimes pull up the worst song. You know, people go, oh,

1128
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: you guys are such great you every song you write

1129
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: is great, and it's like, no, it's not. I mean

1130
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: like we'll pull them up on the bus sometimes and

1131
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: crack up about how bad some of the songs we've written.

1132
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: Our favorite bang growing up. Um also a very hard

1133
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: question because I loved everything but um in high school,

1134
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: I was a big Faith No More fan, got into

1135
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: you Have Faith No More in Nirvana. Yeah, oh totally, man,

1136
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: But it's funny. I love stuff like that, but then

1137
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: I would love like the super sappy, like slow seventies

1138
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: ballads too, Faith No More and we there was a

1139
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: big Weezer fan in college. Are you still a big

1140
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: Weezer fan? Because I'm still a big How old are

1141
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: you right now? So generally same here, I'm thirty eight,

1142
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I wear my clear frames on now,

1143
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: but I wear my glasses because of Rivers Cuomo, and

1144
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: I thought, but Rivers and Buddy Holly. I thought, if

1145
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: those two nerds can be cool, like it gave me

1146
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: confidence to be cool. Like I loved Weezer that much

1147
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: and I still love Weezer. Do you still love I do?

1148
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: Actually I went, you know, I went through a phase

1149
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: there for a while where I didn't really check out

1150
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: anything new they were doing. But then a couple of

1151
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: years ago I kind of got back in and you know,

1152
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: you look at a band like that and go I

1153
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: used to just you know, hang on every album, wait

1154
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: until it came out, you know. And so I'm like,

1155
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: I haven't heard any of these albums, and actually, like

1156
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: Pacific Daydream is, like I listened to it, and that's

1157
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: one I'll listen to like all the way through, Like

1158
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite Weezer albums. And it was

1159
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: not too long ago they put that out and part

1160
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: of the reason is we don't hang out albums at

1161
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: all anymore, right, which is why your two albums are

1162
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: so good. That I was saying on the earlier of

1163
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: the day, and when I talk on the radio, I

1164
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: imagine nobody hears what I say. I have to or

1165
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: I'll never say anything, so I have to imagine that

1166
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't get out. I'm just talking to my friends,

1167
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: or I would just cover everything I say, right, And

1168
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: I was talking about you guys, and I was like,

1169
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I think they're my new favorite band.

1170
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I think the one in my top three because pound

1171
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: for pound, all your songs are good. Like, I don't

1172
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: know that you have it if tomorrow never comes in

1173
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: my heart yet, but there'd have been enough time yet. Well,

1174
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: although One Man Band is the jam, but like right

1175
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: now it's in my it's in my my top ten,

1176
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: but I think it's my Yeah, Like I'm a big,

1177
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: big fan. I really am. I really really appreciate you

1178
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: saying that. It's funny we didn't know when we first

1179
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: came out. We were like, I don't think Bobby likes us.

1180
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: You know, I probably didn't, and not that I didn't

1181
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: like you, but I just didn't know, and I don't

1182
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: want to be false with anyone. Oh yeah, I'm with

1183
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: you ever because I can't lie when I don't like something.

1184
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to. You would never believe me

1185
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: if I told you I like something. I can't remember

1186
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: if I lie. That's why I don't lie, because I'm

1187
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm dude. I do this, I did show, I do

1188
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: stand up, I'm writing books. If I lie, I just

1189
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: don't remember. Because I would lie, I'd be great lying,

1190
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: I'd be fantastic. I'd lie all the time. But help me,

1191
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: I just can't remember, and so I don't. I mean,

1192
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: I remember you guys would come in and it was

1193
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: not that I didn't like. I didn't know yet, and

1194
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: I don't want you to. I wasn't gonna be lie

1195
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: and be like but now when you guys to come in,

1196
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm like hall of fame. Put him in right now,

1197
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: get him out. That's them. I love it. Yeah I do.

1198
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm huge. But when I hope you know when I

1199
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: say that, I'm from all sincerity like I mean it.

1200
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: I feel I appreciate it that a one man band.

1201
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: Well listen, I can't wait for the record. UM make

1202
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: an interesting story. Faith No more did not expect that.

1203
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: I guess I did. You know, we all come from

1204
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: such diverse backgrounds and it's okay to love every kind

1205
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: of music, and well, I just was a song person.

1206
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: That's why it's hard when you asked that, I'm like, man,

1207
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: it's so hard for me to say because I was more.

1208
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: You know, my my parents didn't have a favorite band.

1209
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: There wasn't one thing we listened to, so I just

1210
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: was a station flipper. So I mean, it's like, it's

1211
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: really hard to say what influenced me everything, did you know?

1212
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up in Detroit, so it was

1213
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: like we had Motown, we had great rap and hip hop,

1214
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: we had rock as Detroit rock city. It was like,

1215
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: I just love songs, and I think that's why I

1216
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: gravitated so much to songwriting. And you had Napster, which

1217
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: was a big deal for us because we were the

1218
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: first real group of people to be able to get

1219
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: anything and everything, not based on the region we lived in,

1220
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: based on what our parents had in their collections, not

1221
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: based on what the record store the CD store had,

1222
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: and you know, again based on where you were, they'd

1223
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: stock up on certain things. We had freaking Napster where

1224
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: you would go. I think I'll take every song that

1225
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: starts s then go to sleep every song and you

1226
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: just hit play. I discovered so much music that way.

1227
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Me too. I actually found an old I was cleaning

1228
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: something out and I found an old found an old

1229
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: burn CD that I had made like fift twenty years ago.

1230
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was labeled, but I'm like,

1231
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, I used to just stolen from Napster.

1232
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 1: Stolen from Napster, probably thirty songs on there. Hey, listen,

1233
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. This, it's it's been a good talk

1234
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: to an hour with you. Um, you know t Rose

1235
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: and forty one on Instagram? Why forty one? By the way,

1236
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: it was my hockey number in college, So it's always

1237
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: been you played hockey in college. Yeah, that's a whole

1238
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: other poet. If I didn't have to go do this

1239
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: American I don't have to go do this American idol

1240
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: hit come on tonight, Um, I would stay to talking

1241
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: about hockey. Yeah, yeah, well next I'll come back sometimes.

1242
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: All right. There at episode one sixty seven of the

1243
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: Bobby Cast from Old Dominion, and uh, well, thank you

1244
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: very much for having me appreciate it. Man. All right,

1245
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: well we'll see we are the one to losers. What up,

1246
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: um lunch box? And I know the most about sports.

1247
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: I'll give the sports facts my sports opinions, because I'm

1248
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: pretty much a sports genius. Hey, and I'm Eddie, and

1249
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: I know the least about sports. I'm your average sports fan,

1250
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: your sports watcher. I just don't know the who's who's

1251
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: or the what's what's? What's up? I'm Ray, I'm from

1252
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: the North. I'm an alpha male, a Yankee. I love

1253
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: ice fishing. And if you go to a bar and

1254
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: you see a guy shotgun in a beer, that's probably

1255
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: me and together we are the Sore Losers. We love

1256
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: to talk about sports, even though we're not right all

1257
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: the time. Check out our podcast, The Sore Losers on

1258
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you get podcasts.