1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back. In out number two Clay Travis Buck Sexton show, 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm in DC. Buck just told me I could take 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: my tie off. You will be pleased to know Buck. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: A couple of things based on the last time we 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: were in DC. One, I remembered to actually wear a suit, 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: which is an improvement over my tim. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: I heard you walked into the Oval office and trumb 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: was like Clay Travis, the sandals guy tries to get 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: past Secret Service wearing sandals. They don't love this. They 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: don't love the sandals. 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I had my correct ID, not my real ID, because 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: I still haven't gone to the DMV to get the 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: real ID. But I did have my passport, so all 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: smoothly in. And I don't know that this has so 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: a couple of things since we were there last in June. 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: So I went past all of the photos. I saw 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: the auto pen photo or the Walk of Honor there 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: where President Trump has replaced Joe Biden's image with an 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: auto pen. I don't know that this has been reported 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: on very much, or I haven't seen it. President Trump 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: has written biographies, edited autobiographies, or not autobiographies, but biographies 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: of each of the presidents. There now is not just 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: a photo of each of the former presidents. There is 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: like a paragraph of each of the each of the 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: presidents and their accomplishments. Joe Biden's accomplishments not a very 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I again, I don't know if it. I 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: was told I couldn't take photos of it, and I 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: don't have a photographic memory to get exactly what was 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: written there. They're hysterical book, they're absolutely historic. It's President 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Trump describing Joe Biden's tenure, Barack Obama's tenure. I remember 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: on Bill Clinton's biography underneath his photo the final sentences 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: and unfortunately something like and unfortunately for Bill Clinton his 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: wife would go on to lose a devastating defeat to 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: President Trump in twenty sixteen. And so he's remade that 35 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: entire walkway. When I went in the Oval office just 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: about an hour ago, he was meeting with a huge 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: team of architects working on the new ballroom that he 38 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: is trying to put the finishing touches on as they 39 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: are really undergoing just rapid fire transformation there. And anyway, 40 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: it was really good to see him. He wanted me 41 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: to tell you all that he said Hi, that he's 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: going to come on the show again soon with us, 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: and that he appreciates all the time that he's gotten 44 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: to spend talking with all of you and all the 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: feedback that he gets that's very positive every time he 46 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: comes on the show. So all of that underway right now. 47 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: The big question I think that is looming, Buck, is 48 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: what are we going to do with Iran? And I asked, 49 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, Jim Jordan was just in with us, and 50 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: I asked him about that. There has been We've cleared 51 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: the bases of Katar of American soldiers. There are reports 52 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: that Israel is starting to clamp down expecting that there 53 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: may be an attack coming there. And so to me, 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: it feels very eminent that something is coming there and 55 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: that there have been unfortunately thousands, maybe as many some 56 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: of these reports that I've seen, Buck, maybe as many 57 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: as ten thousand people that the Iranian government has killed 58 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: who are in the middle of protests, and kind of 59 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: put that into perspective for you. Tianam And Square, which 60 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: still gets a ton of attention Back in I believe 61 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, China killed around two hundred and fifty protesters. 62 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: For those of you who remember the Brave sold the 63 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: brave protesters standing in front of the tanks. We're talking 64 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: about orders of magnitude more of murders that have occurring 65 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: as people have been trying to stand up against Iran. 66 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: And so I do think the biggest and most significant 67 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: thing going on in the world right now is Iran 68 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out exactly what the American response 69 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: is going to be and should be, is I believe, 70 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: taking up a great deal of time right now in 71 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: the in the in the White House, and I expect 72 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: that we are going to do something that is of 73 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: a significant nature. 74 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: So I can tell you that from what I have 75 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: I've heard from the administration in recent days, it is 76 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: very much in the decision making process right now on 77 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: this issue, meaning Trump is and this is being widely reported, 78 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: but I'm told this is true. That meaning it's not 79 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 2: like a decision has been made. It is still Trump 80 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: weighing options, watching and making the determination as commander in 81 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: chief when and if he sees the moment is right. 82 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: So there's a whole bunch of things that come into 83 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: play here. For one, we know that there's the helpful 84 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: but not kinetic actions, helpful but not That's what I 85 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: call them, and that would be things like cyber messing 86 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: with Iranian regime communications, helping communications. I might note Elon 87 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: is already doing his trying to get starlink back up, 88 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: because there's lots of reports that Iran basically he has 89 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: totally sabotaged his ability to get internet access to the 90 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: people who are protesting. I mean, one thing that is 91 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: going on right now is Iran is trying to keep 92 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: the world in the dark, in some cases literally keep us. 93 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: I will keep its own people in the dark rather 94 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: by cutting power, cutting internet access, and making it so 95 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: that we won't know how brutal the repression really is. 96 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: Because they realize there is a there is a threshold 97 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: through which even other countries will start to go WHOA, yes, 98 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: this is this is crossing a line. So that doesn't 99 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: mean they'll do anything about it. But you know, the 100 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: the Iranians are not in some position. Iran is not Russia. 101 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: Iran cannot afford to just thulmb its nose at the 102 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: world and say we've got nukes and lots of oil, 103 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: You're not doing anything about it, And so that means 104 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: that they do have to pay attention to what's happening 105 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: right now with the repression, and let's speak clear, they're 106 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: mowing down people who are unarmed who are protesting in 107 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: the streets. 108 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: They are murdering men and women. 109 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: Probably children too, who are at these protests in an 110 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: act of we are in charge. You shut your mouths 111 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: or we will kill you. 112 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: Right. 113 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: So there's the non kinetic stuff, and then you get 114 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 2: into that we could do, and then there's the kinetic stuff, 115 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: and that's that's things get more interesting in a whole 116 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: range of ways. We could hit, like I said, Clay, 117 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: we could hit the besiege facilities. We could hit so 118 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: besiege are I mentioned this. They're like the street thugs. 119 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Think of them like the Iranian brown you know, they 120 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: the revolutionary brown shirts. They are like a militia meant 121 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: to and this is very common in notice with dictators, 122 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: with authoritarians, they have the military and they always have 123 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: the paramilitary right. 124 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: They have the people that are. 125 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: Kind of operating with the wink of the administration, the 126 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: help administration, but not quite on direct orders necessarily, or 127 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: at least pretending they're not on direct orders. So they 128 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: can do really nasty stuff. You know, that's the day 129 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: they'll do whatever. We could blow up some of their stuff, 130 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: and then the issue clay becomes what is Iran do 131 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: in response? They do have some long range missiles and 132 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: they could try to hit our bases, and they could 133 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: try to hit Israel. Will they do that? And then 134 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: what do we do in response? This is where things 135 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: get tricky and it is why Trump is weighing his 136 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: options as we speak, very carefully well, and certainly the 137 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: other question about this is do they have the ability 138 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: to actually do any damage to us? And this is 139 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: why I think American military resources are being pulled out 140 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: of Katar. They certainly Iran has fired hundreds, if not 141 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: thousands of missiles at Israel indiscriminately in response to what Israel. 142 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Did during the Twelve Day War. I think the question 143 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: that ultimately is now confronting the Ayatola, and this is 144 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: where I would say it's connected to what happened with 145 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: Venezuela and Maduro. I think the people of Iran, the Ayatola, 146 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: the leadership at the high levels, the Molas are aware 147 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: that if the United States wants to take them out, 148 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: we can take them out. And this is where I 149 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: think the Venezuela Maduro example is impacting. I think a 150 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: lot of the geopolitical relations the United States has with 151 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: many countries around the world because many of them looked 152 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: around and said, wait a minute, if they can do 153 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: this to Venezuela, could they do this to us too? 154 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: And so I wonder on some level, and I'm not 155 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: sure if he's willing to do it because he's an 156 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: old man. I think the aatola is eighty eight. If 157 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. What Maduro should have done buck was 158 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: take the gilded refuge, live as a multi hundred millionaire 159 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: on some fabulous estate somewhere in a very nice region. 160 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: And I wonder whether some of the top Iranian leaders 161 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: might be thinking, given what happened to Maduro, boy, I 162 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: don't want to die, or I don't want to end 163 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: up in a prison for the rest of my life, 164 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: maybe I should voluntarily relinquish power and basically abdicate its 165 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: not a throne, but abdicate the seat of government. I 166 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: wonder whether there's back channel negotiations and discussions taking place 167 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: as it pertains to that. That's what I would wonder 168 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: in general, if the decision making potentially is going to 169 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: impact that, and would they be willing to make that 170 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: rational choice, or are these guys gonna go down with 171 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: the proverbial ship. 172 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: Well, we know, and I think Trump knows this and 173 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: has known this for a long time. The American people 174 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: have no stomach whatsoever and shouldn't because I think it's 175 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: an error. It's not just we don't want to pay 176 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: the price. I don't think we would get where we 177 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: want to go trying to run it on ourselves, rebuild it, 178 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: patrol the streets. I mean, the older rock two thousand 179 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: and three miles not happening. It's just not happening. So 180 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: the concerns that people have about that, I understand those concerns, 181 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: But no one in any decision make Pete Hegseth won't 182 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: allow that. Trump won't allow that JD go down the list. 183 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 2: No one is going to say that that's what we're 184 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: gonna do. So as long as that's off the table, 185 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: and I truly believe what this administration it is, other 186 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: administrations it wouldn't be off the table. This administration was. 187 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: To give you a sense of how cynical things were. 188 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: Obama came in and simultaneously in Afghanistan. I was working 189 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: on the Afghan desk at the CIA when this happened. 190 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: So this was I was paying very close attention to this. 191 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: Said we're gonna surge one hundred thousand troops, but also 192 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: here's our withraw, here's the draw down date. And everyone's like, well, 193 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: what do you mean You surge the troops to win, 194 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: You don't surge the troops to make some political statement 195 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: and then say, but we're also going to leave. At 196 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: this time, the whole thing was a mess. It was 197 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: all politics. But Afghanistan was a good war. Rock was 198 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: the bad war. We've learned all these lessons, is my point, Clay. 199 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: And as long as the Iranian people are the ones 200 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: calling the shots and in charge at the end of this, 201 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: that's where we want to be. It's not gonna be us. 202 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: We're not sending our you know, nineteen twenty twenty one 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: year old marines to try to get the water turned 204 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,479 Speaker 2: on in shiraz I. 205 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: I think one of the questions that is maybe most 206 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: paramount here too, Buck, is what is the Iranian military 207 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: gonna do? And I've talked to some people. You may 208 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: have had actual discussions about this back when you were 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: in your previous life. At some point in time, the 210 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: military moves from we're taking the orders from the people 211 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: in the high command. The iotola is the malas, And 212 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: when you start asking them to mow down protesters, they 213 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: start recognizing weight. That could be my sister, that could 214 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: be my aunt, that could be my uncle, that could 215 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: be my brother sister, and they start to refuse to 216 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: just make that choice. Right. And I wonder if, as 217 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: these bodies are stacking up, whether some of these military 218 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: individuals are gonna you remember. 219 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: When can I tell you what I think the calculation is, 220 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: Because what you're saying is true, But in the context 221 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: of Iran, it's for these soldiers who are being given 222 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: these orders. I think a more immediate thing for some 223 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: of them is if I don't do this, are they 224 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: going to execute me and maybe throw my family in 225 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: some hell hole, make. 226 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: An example of me? So you're damned if you do, 227 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: and you're damned if you don't. 228 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: So that's the real And so the calculation becomes, well, 229 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: if I don't do it, is there a chain that 230 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: I can survive or that they won't be willing to 231 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: execute me to make an example of me? 232 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: Right? 233 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: If I basically defy this order, what happens to me? 234 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: Because that's the calculating that when you get into people's 235 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: self interest, you really know what you're dealing with. 236 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: That's also where it's not only the self interest, it's 237 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: what is the impact if the United States rains down 238 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: bombs on the Ayatola. I think that's a big part 239 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: of their discussion too. Does it in some way strengthen 240 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: the Iranian regime because they say, oh, look, these are 241 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: just external actors attacking us internally in the country. This 242 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: is not an organic, organic anti Iran protest. This is Israel, 243 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: this is the United States, This is external actors. Or 244 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: to your point, Buck, which I think is an interesting one, 245 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: does the attack further delegitimize the Iranian regime such that 246 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: some of those soldiers look around and say, one thing, 247 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: to fight when you think that you might win. Nobody 248 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: wants to be the last soldier getting killed in a 249 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: war that you're going to lose. And I wonder in 250 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: their heads psychologically, if they see there's no power here, 251 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: it's already humiliation happened in the Twelve Day War, how 252 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: do they handle that going forward? I think it's a 253 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: really intriguing part of this analysis. 254 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: Of all the investments I've had, I've made in the 255 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: past half dozen years or so, buying and owning gold 256 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: Top five might even be top three, and after crunch 257 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: the numbers, last year alone, the gold I own increased 258 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: more than sixty percent in value. Historically, gold has always 259 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: increased in value year to year, and last year's performance 260 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: was a banner year for both the value of gold 261 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: as well as silver. Twenty twenty six hold similar promise 262 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: for continued growth and value for gold especially. 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We got it, add 287 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I did. 288 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: That would be a good show too, probably a fantastic show, 289 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: great hair all around, The Clay and Buck Show, or 290 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: Clay and Trump Show, Clay and Trump, but really, let's 291 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: be honest, it would have to be the Trump and 292 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: Clay Show. But nonetheless, I'm glad you saw the big 293 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: guy today. Or it would just be the Trump Show 294 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: and friends. 295 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: There's only one. 296 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: Show when Trump's involved, and it's Trump and we are 297 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: currently talking to you. Sorry, We're gonna have a hard 298 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: turn here into serious stuff from Trump talk. 299 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: Iran. 300 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: What's gonna happen there, Clay, I'm sure you saw this. 301 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: They're preparing to execute a protester. Yeah, Trump is threatening 302 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: strong action. So Iran is going to hang a protester, 303 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: it seems here. And if this is done, this is 304 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: gonna be one of these things where we see, remember 305 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: Trump because of the Syrian gas activity, alleged gas activity. 306 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: Hit with a bunch of missiles. 307 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: I'm starting to think, I'm just gonna tell you, I'm 308 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: starting to think Trump's gonna pull the trigger on some 309 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: kind of kinetic action here. 310 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he's gonna sit by and 311 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: let this just happen. I think you're right. And I 312 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: would also point out some of these Iranian leaders have 313 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: actually been on video kind of taunting Trump. Oh, he's 314 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: not gonna do anything. Maduro doing dancing and basically taunting Trump. 315 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: I think is a really was a bad decision for him. 316 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't think you want to question whether Trump has 317 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: the proverbial balls to actually do an attack in these ways. 318 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. I just really do. 319 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: Iran doesn't have a powerful military. Everyone, I mean, this 320 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: is the true. 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Actually I didn't know who these guys were. 351 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: But as I was leaving the White House, the negotiators 352 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: from Greenland were coming in. Reportedly that's public now, So 353 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: I was like, who are the you know, like anyway, 354 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: So there are Denmark and Greenland negotiators supposedly meeting with 355 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio and Jade Vance today surrounding Like again, I 356 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: don't know what imagine. I don't know how this like. 357 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: You should have been able to sneak into that Trump 358 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: be like, look this is what it looks. 359 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: Like, giant Trump Trump Building. Like you know what if 360 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: the capital of Greenland? I don't even know what the 361 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: capitol of Greenland is. I now that I think gonna 362 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: have a capital. Yeah it does, and I can't remember it. 363 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Of course I'm not gonna be good at pronouncing it, 364 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: but it's like it's I feel like it starts with 365 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: an eye of some nook nook Okay, noo, yeah I 366 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: was wrong, starts with an I. 367 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying he's He's like, nook gonna be 368 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: the greatest place. We're gonna have casinos, We're gonna have beautiful, 369 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: beautiful streets, wonderful things like he's gonna he's the best 370 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: salesman out there. Could you imagine you're in the Greenland 371 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: delegation and then you're gonna sit down with like the 372 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: Danish guys who. 373 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: Are like, but we give you free health care. 374 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: They're like, well, Trump's offering to stuff our coffers with 375 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: like tons of money. 376 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: So well, this is my point on Greenland. From the 377 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: get go, everybody's like, first of all, Trump's decision to 378 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: want to expand the sphere of influence manifest destiny style 379 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: for those of you who are old school history people, 380 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: is actually basically the foundation of the United States, but 381 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: we haven't done it since we bought the Virgin Islands 382 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: from Denmark. The craziest part about all the criticism of 383 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: the Greenland decision is that we bought from the Danes 384 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: the Virgin Islands back in I believe nineteen seventeen for 385 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars in gold. We tried to buy 386 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: Greenland back in the past. And how can Denmark sell 387 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: it If it's so unacceptable for us to be buying Greenland. 388 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: How about the fact that Denmark is trying to sell 389 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: it to make money on it. So that is potentially 390 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: underway right now a negotiation and opening bid for Greenland. 391 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: Can I just say, like, let's just put all of 392 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: our chips on the table. Wholl here, friends, Okay, this 393 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: is We're in the trust tree. 394 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: Just you me Clay. 395 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: Consider it the three of us plus a few million 396 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: of you on about six hundred stations. 397 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: So we're in the trust tree. It's just us talking. 398 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: There are some parts of America roughly speaking, I wouldn't 399 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't throw any states under the bus, unlike some 400 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: people over here with this New Mexican madness. 401 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: I tossed New Mexico on the scrapp heep. I was wrong. 402 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I've apologized. I now want to give up Minnesota so 403 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: Minnesota's can be angry Minneapolis in particular. Someone maybe we 404 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: could just sell Minneapolis along with Tim Walls and Jacob 405 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: Frye and just have them vanish from the United States. 406 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 2: Someone has not experienced the glories of muskie fishing season 407 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: up in Minnesota. I'm just putting the muscle lunge a beautiful. 408 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: Well that's in northern Minnesota. I'm just carving out Minneapolis 409 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: and all the crazy people there and selling it to Canada. 410 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: They probably belonged to Canada more than they might. 411 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: Belong So like I'm gonna I'm gonna do this. Just 412 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: list of US territories. Okay, like list of US territories. 413 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: Take a look at this. We got Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guam, 414 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: Mariana Islands, and American Samoa. Let's just take one of 415 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: these for example. Okay, if if American Samoa, if a 416 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: foreign entity came along that we thought was like a 417 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: good they were good guys. So this doesn't include like China. 418 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: But you know, if the UK for some reason said 419 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: to us, and you know, we're we're tight with the 420 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: UK still at least for the foreseeable and they said, guys, 421 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: we're going to give you a trillion dollars for American Samoa. 422 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: Now that's a crazy price tag, right, but just a 423 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: truly not American Samoa. I'm not trying to be mean 424 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: to our Samoan brothers and sisters, but I think we 425 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: got to think about that offer long and hard. My 426 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: point here is if the price was right for an 427 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: American territory, remember I'm not saying States territory. If it 428 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: was in our strategic interest, why not? Why why would 429 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: we not make that deal if it was for the 430 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: bet for the betterment of the of the American people overall? 431 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: I mean Guam. We probably have some listeners on the 432 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: military base there. 433 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: I don't see what the big deal is if if 434 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: if Japan came to us they wanted it back in 435 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: the day, as we know, if Japan came to us 436 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: and they said, look, we'll give you X for Guam, 437 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: you know, or maybe even a trade clay, maybe Japan 438 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: would say, you know, we'll give you a I don't know, 439 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: Hokkaido or something. I will give you some that's a 440 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: big place. But you got what I'm saying. They gave 441 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: you something, it's a deal. Why is this so crazy 442 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: to people? This has been all of human history, these 443 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: kinds of deals have been made. I That's what I 444 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: think is so important about this. 445 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: We just stopped having this expansionist idea of American power, 446 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: and we very inwardly shrunk and the idea that we 447 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: would have a sphere of influence, or that the Monroe 448 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: doctrine would apply, or that manifest destiny would apply. Look, 449 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a Monday Morning quarterback, but 450 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like we blew it with the 451 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Spanish American War. Why did we not keep Cuba? Why 452 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: after Teddy Roosevelt charged the Hill down in eighteen ninety eight, 453 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, why did we give up Cuba 454 00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: That created a huge, huge danger for a generation for 455 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: a century plus one hundred and fifty years, ninety miles 456 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: south of our of our shores. We just hoped that 457 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: Cuba would make rational decisions that would further the health 458 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: and freedom and well being of everybody there. Instead, we 459 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: had the Cuban missile crisis. You've got a buddy who 460 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: was actually involved in the Cuban missile crisis, like back 461 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: in the day at the CIA, A mentor of mine 462 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: who was at the Bay of Pigs, captured and ransomed 463 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: back by America. Yeah, he's told me the stories over 464 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: Scotch and wow, it's crazy. It's crazy. But I mean again, 465 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: this is where I look at Venezuela and I don't 466 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: think it's outrageous to believe. I was having dinner last 467 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: night with one of my buddies who works in the 468 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: federal government, and we were talking about Trump has basically 469 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: created a scenario where Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran in a 470 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: modern day version of the Berlin Wall coming down. These 471 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: totalitarian governments could all crumble in response to the strength 472 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump showed in how he's handled these adversarial figures. 473 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know that many people have really started 474 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: to think about how much that could change. I mean, 475 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: for those of you remember Buck, you remember this. We 476 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: were talking about when the soldiers decide to stop shooting. 477 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: The Berlin Wall came down so quickly. When we were 478 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: in that situation, it was suddenly you could go from 479 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: East Germany to West Germany and the soldiers wouldn't shoot you, 480 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: and then you could sit on top of the wall 481 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: and you could start to chip away with it. And 482 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: it just happened almost instantaneously. But it wasn't by accident. 483 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: It was a series of decisions that put in place 484 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: that outcome, which fundamentally changed the trajectory of the world. 485 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: I think we are potentially sitting on the precipice of 486 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: a modern day Berlin Wall movement, when freedom could shine 487 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: across the entirety of many of the most adversarial countries 488 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: to United States interest in the world, and it would 489 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: be because of Donald Trump's Peace through Strength mandate. I'm 490 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic that we're about to have a transformative moment 491 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: for the world. 492 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: I hope you're right if someone was asking me what 493 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: I think is going to happen. Unfortunately, I think the 494 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: odds are still on the Mulas holding on. 495 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: You think they'll just keep killing people and this will 496 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: be like the previous uprisings that we've seen happening run 497 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: in the past. We're slowly the stranglehold of the mulas 498 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: comes back and people stop coming out in the streets. 499 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Based on what I have seen and heard so far, yes, 500 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: although I reserve the right to change my assessment tomorrow. 501 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: Look the big question mark here, and this is the 502 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: big question. This is the big question mark. When I 503 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: was meeting with the president of Taiwan as well. With 504 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: a possibility of a China, you know, invasion. The big 505 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: question is what's America going to do. Yeah, we have 506 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: a difference maker capability here. We're the only country in 507 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: the world in this regard that does so. So far, 508 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, we have not decided. Trump has not 509 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: decided as commander in chief to tip the scales here. 510 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: I think if that continues, they will be successful in 511 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: suppressing and the mass murder will happen. And that's just 512 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: the way it will be. I think the X factor. 513 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: Is if we wake up and Trump has decided enough 514 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: is enough, then I think the Mullas might be toast. 515 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: Then I think we might have a difference in Iran 516 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: and that now that puts a lot on this Trump 517 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: decision obviously, but that's where I come down on this. 518 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: If Trump does not take action, I think that they'll 519 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: be successful in Iran in the suppression. If Trump takes action, 520 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: then I think that actually the Mullas are done. I 521 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: think it will happen. 522 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: Then the question obviously becomes who's next is the Is 523 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: it the former Shaw the family that was forced out 524 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. Is there a bri there that 525 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: potentially leads to it? Those would be the next questions. 526 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: I think if he's going to act, Buck, I think 527 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: he will act. What are we about? It's getting close 528 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: to dark in Iran right now out there? So what 529 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: do the streets of Iran look like tonight? How many 530 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: more people show up? Because think about it, if we're 531 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: correct based on it again, it's hard to get information 532 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent accurate out of Iran because they've shut 533 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: down all communication. But it seems quite clear that thousands 534 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: of people are dead. If you were in Iran, you 535 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: would understand that if you're taking the streets at any 536 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: point now, there is a decent likelihood that you could 537 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: be shot yourself or your friends or family with you 538 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: could be shot as well. In other words, thousands of 539 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: people being killed in a country that has a population 540 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: of ninety million, it is having a devastating impact in 541 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: terms of the deaths that are occurring there right now. 542 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: So my point on this is, can I ask you 543 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: a question about yes? Just real quick? 544 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: First of all, Trump is supposed to speak about this, 545 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: I think pretty shortly. I think we just got a 546 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: notice from our team Clay that Trump is going to 547 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: be talking about this. 548 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: Am I right on that one? Guys? 549 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump is going to be addressed. So we may 550 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: be hearing something again. 551 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: It's getting dark, so that's why I'm saying it's going 552 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: to be a night attack, right. It's a better time 553 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: to be firing stuff that much. We do know. 554 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: Nighttime is when you want to be especially when you 555 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: have night vision and all the technological advantage that we have. 556 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: I think though, it's just this is a bit of 557 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: an aside, but I think it's worth mentioning Clay. You 558 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: know all these people that you've heard, including some on 559 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: the right, who are so upset about what Israel was 560 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: fighting and he's raerely fighting in Gaza, where are they 561 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: on people being mowed down in the streets in their 562 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: own country for protesting. They're not even fighting the regime, 563 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: they're not even shooting at the regime. They're just protesting. 564 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 2: They're being mowed down with machine guns. Where are these 565 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: people that care so much about human rights and and 566 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: and cared about the innocent life in Gaza? 567 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: They say nothing about this. 568 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm not seeing And I know who is very loud 569 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: about Gaza, including people on the right, which was surprising. 570 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: I see nothing right now. No, I mean I think 571 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: people should take note of that one hundred percent. 572 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: Buck. I'm in DC. My alma mater, George Washington University 573 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Campus Quad was taken over because supposedly all of the 574 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: Palestinians were being murdered by Israel. We know, beyond the 575 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: shadow of a doubt that Iran is killing its own people. 576 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Not one scintilla of protest anywhere, not at UCLA, not 577 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: at Colombia, not at George Washington, not at all of 578 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: these campuses that were taken over Colombia. It's it's I think, 579 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: instructive of what we've said, Buck, When there's not a big, 580 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: bad boogeyman white person that can can be blamed, Israel 581 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: is seen as white. Jewish people are seen as white, 582 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: even though that's not accurate. The white person is the 583 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: bad guy. When that can't happen, nobody pays it attention. 584 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls, by the way, eight 585 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: hundred and two two two eight a two. We will 586 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: monitor the president and what might be about to happen 587 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: in Iran is You'll want to stay tuned in the meantime. 588 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: If you're coming up on the end of the year balance, 589 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: and you looked and you said, boy, we spent a 590 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: lot more money in twenty twenty five than we thought 591 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: we wanted to. 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Pound two five zero say 621 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck. That's pound two five zero say Clay 622 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: and Buck. 623 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: Hws and politics, but also a little comic relief. 624 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the Free 625 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: iheardra app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back 626 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: in here to Clay and Buck. 627 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: We'll be diving back into all the news here, including 628 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: I think Trump gonna speak about Iran shortly, so we 629 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: shall discuss uh. Doug in Massachusetts wants to weigh in 630 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: here on the Greenland to Bay. What's up, Doug, Hey. 631 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: How are you guys doing today. I had two questions, 632 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: is why haven't we ever gone after Bermuda in the 633 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: same mi likeness and Buck, Maybe you can explain to 634 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: me because I'm naive. What how has Guantanamo Bay exist 635 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: in Cuba with US? Like, I mean, I got it, 636 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: there's military guys there, they're protecting it. How does it 637 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: How do we legally? 638 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: So I'll dip into my history here and I might 639 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: be I'm pretty I'm gonna be pretty accurate, but I 640 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: might need to clean up a little bit here. We 641 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: essentially had before the Communist revolution, we had an agreement 642 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: a lease for that land, and the US position was, okay, 643 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: we still have a lease for that land. Sorry, like 644 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: the new Castro Communist don't get to abrogate. You know, 645 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: it's like at least with a landlord, like sorry, that's 646 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: our apartment or that's our house now. And that's the 647 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: way it is with Guantanamo Bay. And they obviously don't 648 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 2: want to start some offensive operation against the United States. 649 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: That would be very very unwise. Bermuda, I mean, I 650 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: don't know, it's a it's a UK territory, so you know, 651 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: we like the UK, and I'm not really sure what 652 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: the advantage would be. It's a nice vacation spot. I 653 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 2: actually went there with Kerrie a few years ago. 654 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: Clay, I think Bermuda the answer is, it isn't that 655 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: strategically significant Cuba. I think that the base on Cuba 656 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: goes all the way back to the Spanish American War. 657 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: I think that we maintain that base basically as part 658 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: of giving Cuba back their independence, we maintain the rights 659 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: to it. We'll look that up to confirm. I wasn't 660 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: expecting a Guantanamo Bay question off the top of the 661 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: of the show here at the end of the hour. 662 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least started in nineteen oh three. Yeah, so 663 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 2: I think that was a. 664 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: Result of the Spanish American War and we maintained it. 665 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: But it would be great if we didn't have an 666 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: adversarial country ninety miles from Key West. Yeah, of course. 667 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: And just to remind people, Havana was Las Vegas. Before 668 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: Las Vegas was Las Vegas, people traveled on speedboats from 669 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: South Florida to Havana to get away from the United 670 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: States and live it up. It was a beautiful place. Yeah, 671 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: so you no what I mean? I was? 672 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm correct playing so far as we reaffirmed it in 673 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty four. So yeah, so we built the base 674 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 2: of ninth or we've had the base and control of 675 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 2: it since nineteen oh three, but before you know, with 676 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: the Batista government, I mean, everybody was cool with us 677 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: continue to have this base. Pastro comes along and he's like, 678 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: get out of here, and we say no, A deal's 679 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 2: a deal. So that's why we still have a base.