1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, Welcome back to Killers amongst Us, 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: the production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. It seemed like 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: a dream, the perfect job, a beautiful wife, a baby boy, 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: a happy home. Or was it David Temple cheating and 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: even worse, cheating openly with a new hot teacher at 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: his own school where he's a chief football coach. Belinda 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Temple sees her marriage falling apart. I Nancy Grace and 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: this is Killers amongst Us. Soon, Heather becomes a regular 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: at the coach's weekly happy hour at the local bar. 10 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: David spends more and more time talking to her alone. 11 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: They were spending a lot of time kind of segueing 12 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: off on their own, separate from the group, and people 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: started to look at them like they were kind of 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: a couple. There were a lot of people who didn't 15 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: actually know that David was married. The romance escalates, Heather 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: invites David over to her apartment and the relationship goes 17 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: from exciting flirtation to a full blown erotic affair behind 18 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: David's pregnant wife's back. When I learned he was having 19 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: an affair, I was not surprised at all. David is 20 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: completely caught up in the exciting and beautiful English teacher 21 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: and she feels the same way. They were both lusting 22 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: after each other, almost addicted to one another. They couldn't 23 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: stay away, they didn't want to stay away. They were 24 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: each other's drug. Wow, how could anybody not know his 25 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: wife is pregnant? I mean? Catherine Casey, author of Shattered 26 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: on Amazon, an incredible dissection of this case. He was from, 27 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: this is his hometown, These are his peeps. How could 28 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: anybody be a teacher in that school and not know 29 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: David Temple's married with a child and a pregnant wife. Well, 30 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: you know he's hid it, Nancy. He didn't wear a 31 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: wedding ring, he didn't talk about his family, and he 32 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: was going out acting as if he was single. There 33 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: were some people on the teaching staff we thought that 34 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: he was probably separated. David and Heather were an item 35 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: for quite a while before people figured out that he 36 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: was married and that his wife was expecting a child. 37 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: M Take a listen to scorned. David Temple has been 38 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: having an affair with a beautiful new English teacher named Heather, 39 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: and she's just learned that not only as David married 40 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: to Belinda, but he has a three year old son 41 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: and another child on the way. Although the news of 42 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: David's family is upsetting to Heather, she doesn't end the affair. 43 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: She'd say that she felt sick to her stomach about 44 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: it thinking about it, but obviously not sick enough because 45 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: she didn't break off the relationship. Nothing changed. In fact, 46 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: Heather and David only become more deeply involved. Even Heather's 47 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: roommate can see that the relationship is heating up fast. 48 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Heather's roommates started noticing that David was showing up at 49 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: their own house and spending a lot of time with Heather, 50 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: and that gifts who were arriving flowers and perfume and 51 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: jewelry for Heather from David. David really gave her that 52 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: impression that she was the special one. So not only 53 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: was there the sexual chemistry, this feeling that they had 54 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: the perfect union, added on top of that was the 55 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: extra charge that she was winning. She was winning this 56 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: man away from a wife who was giving him a child, 57 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: and as the affair continues, she wants to understand his 58 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: exact situation. Heather asked David, well, do you have any kids? 59 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: And he told her that he had a little boy 60 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: and another little baby girl on the way that his 61 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: wife was pregnant. Heather is shocked by the news. This 62 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: is more than she is prepared for. Does she really 63 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: want to share Dandy with his wife and expanding family? 64 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: You are hearing scorn and the voices of Katherine Casey, 65 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: Robbie Ludwig, and Debbie Burger perfect union. I mean, Katherine Casey, 66 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: author of Shattered Right. I'm sure that David Temple and 67 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: his girlfriend, Heather and Belinda we'll be very happy together. 68 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: No way. I mean, if she says she feels sick 69 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: to her stomach, why didn't she stop? Catherine? You know, 70 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: I don't think she wanted to, Nancy. I don't think 71 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: she really, really, sincerely wanted to. At one point in 72 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: January on actually I think it's around the fifth of January, 73 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: she says to David, I can't go on this way, 74 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: and his response to her is you won't have to. Wow, Wow, 75 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: listen to this. After their romantic weekend together, David begins 76 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: this new year by declaring his deepening feelings for Heather. 77 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: In the war for David's affections, it's Heather who's winning, 78 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: he told her he had fallen totally in love with her, 79 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: and she said that she felt the same way, and 80 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: their relationship seemed to be moving to the next level. 81 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: Straight out to doctor Robbie Ludwig, Arthur till Death Do 82 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: Us Part and the host of Talking Live with Doctor 83 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Robbie Ludwig at Facebook watch way in, Robbie, I believe 84 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: that was you that uttered the words perfect union. Yeah, 85 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what happens when you choose a 86 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: relationship that is entirely based on fantasy and think that 87 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: you can actually live in that fantasy picture. It is 88 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: just a bad setup. But people have very poor judgment 89 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: when they are overcome with feelings of what they think 90 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: is extreme love or a unique love that they feel, 91 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: you know that they would do anything to keep the 92 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: relationship alive. Let's go to January eleven. That January, the 93 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: relationship with Heather is you know, as hot as ever, 94 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: boiling over. David Temple has already told Heather the English 95 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: teacher that she wouldn't have to live this way much longer. 96 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: To Brandy Keoncini, the owner of The Katie Times, Brandy, 97 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: that day started off as normal, Tell me about it, Well, 98 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: it was a Monday, they were getting ready to go 99 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: to work. Their son, Evan, had not been feeling well overnight, 100 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: so he went to daycare. Blenda warned the workers that 101 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: daycare that he might not make it through the day 102 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: and that David will pick the little boy up in 103 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: case he didn't, and off they went to work. At 104 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: some point during the day they called and said that 105 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: he was not feeling well, and so she went and 106 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: picked him up, met David at home with Evan, and 107 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: off she went back to work. That day was a 108 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: normal day in Katie, Texas. Everyone went their separate ways. 109 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: Their little boy goes to his regular daycare, David Temple 110 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: heads to work, Blenda Temple goes about her business, Who's 111 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: about to give birth? And then to Catherine Casey, author 112 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: of Shattered what Happens Well. The phone rang at eleven 113 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: thirty and it was Tiger Land Daycare and they said 114 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: that Evan had a temperature that was above one hundred 115 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: point six, which was the highest they would allow children 116 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: to stay. So Belinda tried to put into action the 117 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: plan she had with David, where David would go pick 118 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Devin up if he became ill again. So she started calling. 119 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: She called once, twice, three times, five times that morning, 120 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: David didn't answer, and she kept trying to get in 121 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: touch with him, and she got frustrated and left school 122 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: and went to pick Evan up and kept trying to 123 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: get in touch with David. When she finally reached him 124 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: around noon, he agreed to meet her at the house, 125 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: but by then she was angry. And I've been told 126 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: by people who saw him as he walked out of 127 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: work that day that he was angry with Belinda. But 128 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: why was he angry with Belinda? He was angry because 129 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: his life had been interrupted that day. He hadn't wanted 130 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: to be there the Friday before, he Heather had pledged 131 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: their love for each other. This was the following Monday, 132 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: the first time he was seeing Heather again after they 133 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: had said that, and this was an interruption in his day, 134 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: and in general, he was angry with Belinda. She knew 135 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: well enough that she was telling people she thought her 136 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: marriage was coming to an ad It's a normal start 137 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: to what looks like a typical day. After dropping her 138 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: son off at daycare, Belinda and David had to work, 139 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: But just hours later, the daycare center calls Belinda her 140 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: son is sick and needs to go home. Her son 141 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: was running a temperature. She got a hold of David 142 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: and he said he would meet her at the house. 143 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: Belinda left work, picked up her son, and had made 144 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: arrangements to meet David at the family home so she 145 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: could return to work because she was pregnant and didn't 146 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: want to lose her sick leave. David meets Blinda at 147 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: their house and he takes over and caring for their 148 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: son for the rest of the day. She returned to 149 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: the school at one o'clock. I remember looking at the 150 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: clock and I said, oh, you were fast, Blenda. You 151 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: did a good job. Now the boy, the baby boy, 152 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: Evan has come home from daycare with over a hundred 153 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: degree fever. Okay, so he's at home sick, but then 154 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: suddenly a dichotomy. He was sent home early that day 155 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: with a fever, and David came home to watch him. Men. 156 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: He took a bath, Matchris, temperature was good, and we 157 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: just played and waited from on to get home. When 158 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Belinda returned around four o'clock, David says she went upstairs 159 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: to rest, and that's when he took Evan out to play. 160 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: We went to the park in our neighborhood, which we 161 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time. He enjoyed being ale, so 162 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: that's where we went first. After that, he says, they 163 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: made their trip to the grocery store and then the 164 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: home team. You're hearing our friend Richard Schlessinger at forty 165 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: eight hours. Now, I've got a problem. Jo's got Morgan 166 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: and you've raised his son along with your wife. You 167 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: bring him home with one hundred plus degree fever. He's 168 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: too ill to stay at school. But then you take 169 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: him outside in January to play and then running errands. 170 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: Shouldn't he be at home in bed? Yeah, he should be. 171 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Should be at home, you know, laying in bed, probably 172 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: taking on fluids, maybe taking a little baby ass from 173 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: along the way. He shouldn't be out playing and he 174 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, he sures heck, shouldn't be going to the 175 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: store because you don't know what's going on with his child. 176 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: You need to be able to take care and watch 177 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: care over him like any good parent would. But when 178 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: David temple It gets home to be with his wife 179 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: just about to give birth to their second child, he 180 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: finds something very unexpected. Listen, when David returns home around 181 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: five thirty, he finds something very disturbing. Before he even 182 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: walks into the house, Temple noticed that the glass in 183 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: the window of the back door had been broken. He 184 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: then went immediately over to his next door neighbor's house, 185 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: pounded on his door, carrying his son, and when the 186 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: neighbor entered the door, he said, someone's broken into my house. 187 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: Can you take care of my son for me? And 188 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: went back over to his own house. Fearing that something 189 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: terrible has happened. David Temple drives into his home. David 190 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: Temple said that he went inside the house, he went upstairs, 191 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: and when he got upstairs, he saw Belinda in the closet. 192 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: David is met with a horrifying sight. Belinda is lying 193 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: face down on the floor with a massive wound to 194 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: her head. You know, Randy Kessler to fits lawyer, family 195 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: law specialists, why is it the husband always finds the 196 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: wife dead? Interesting? Right? An interesting choice of words, And 197 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's dradic it's it's terrible. Even if we 198 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: get two used to sing it over and over and 199 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: never makes it just interesting to me. It's terrible. You 200 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: were just hearing our friends that scorned. Let's hear it 201 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: from the horse's mouth listen to David Temple. She got 202 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: home about four o'clock. We just um said I would 203 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: take Heaven out and run around. We stopped at Brushi, 204 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: but it's just to get a drink. We stopped got 205 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: two drinks and I picked up a bag of cat 206 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: food while we were in there getting the drinks. And 207 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: then we decided to go to home depot. We'd have 208 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: time to do that, make it home, the time to 209 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: take one to eat dinner before the end of the garage. 210 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: You got my son. I started to walk towards the 211 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: back door, and I could see that the backdoors opening, 212 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: it's cracked with glass. And took my son a Foss 213 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: Street and bangoring my friends south and handed them to 214 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Heaven and asked if they were going on. One morning, 215 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: somebody had spoken into my neighbor's house and then ran 216 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: back across the street and into the dated and into 217 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: my house the street from me and making an upstairs 218 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: to her at hunting him full of blood and recalls 219 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: their knees up underneath her stomach. Did you protect her? Hey? 220 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: So across the bed and you got the phone to 221 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: call on nine on the line Harris County, and I 222 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: don't want to believe tri ambulance. Somebody's broken into my 223 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: and my wife's shocked. I just walked in my wife. 224 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: I believe she's been shot. It's cut blood everywhere. Okay, sir, 225 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: is she breathing? Her brain is on the floor. I 226 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: think she's already did she's eight munch break? She did? Okay, 227 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: she's eight months. We got a baby though, right, we're hype. Okay, okay, 228 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: but I don't how to do CPR, Yes, okay, I 229 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: want you to do CPR for that baby. Okay, okay, yes, 230 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: let's do. Are you doing CPR for me? And she's gone? Okay, 231 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: well let's see if we eat her? Okay for the baby. 232 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: Is there any way that you could do this? There's 233 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: just no way. She's got a brandage. His bloody was 234 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: covered on the floor. I got a policeman that's pulled up. 235 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: You were hearing the nine one one call where David 236 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: Temple calls to report his wife dead, curled up in 237 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: the closet. To Brandy Keionsini, owner of the Katie Times 238 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: Way in Well, the neighborhood was a was a nice neighborhood. 239 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I would say it was fairly middle class. Parts of 240 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: it were nicer than others, and they were smack dab 241 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: in the middle. He by all reports, he was not 242 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: very friendly with the neighbors, except for one family, which 243 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: happens to be the family that he took his son too. 244 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: You know, everybody reacts in different ways, but it is 245 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: very unusual that he would do that, although he did 246 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: have a reputation for absolutely wanting to be in control, 247 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: and it would not be out of character for him 248 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: to control that situation invest in the best way he could, 249 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: which would be to remove Evan from the scene and 250 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: then go in and see what's what listen to this. 251 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: When they got back, Temple says he saw the broken 252 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: back door, dropped Evan off at the neighbors, then ran 253 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: up the stairs and found Bullinda's body sprawled on the 254 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: floor of the bedroom closet. When you have something like 255 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: that traumatic happened in your life that you've never seen before, 256 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: it's incapable of putting into words how you feel. What 257 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: were you told about the scene before you got there, 258 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: that there was a female open found dead in her 259 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: closet with an apparent gunshot wounded. The head crime scene investigator, 260 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Dean Holkey was surprised that a burglar would be so violent. 261 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: You're hearing our friends at forty eight hours, and you're 262 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: also hearing Dean Holkey, the investigator, and David Temple himself. 263 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: Joining me, the author of Shattered, Katherine Casey dissects the 264 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: case the murder of Belinda Temple. Catherine tell me about 265 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the home and the same that David Temple came home to. Well, 266 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: the back door was open and the window was shattered, 267 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: and when he walked inside there was glass splattered across 268 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: the carpeting. As he went upstairs and went into the master, 269 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: master bedroom and went into the closet, Belinda was sprawled 270 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: out there. Her body was just kind of hunched up 271 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: at that point and she was faced down against the rugs. 272 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: It was just horrific. There was blood everywhere, there was 273 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: brain matter everywhere. It was just a horrendous see joining me, 274 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: forensics expert and author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, 275 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan just got a very curious about your 276 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: analysis of the scene so far as we know it 277 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: weight in. Yeah, obviously, going back to this door, I 278 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: think this is a key piece of evidence in this case, 279 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: and the idea that you have this glass that is 280 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of strewn about on the floor relative to the 281 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: position that the door is in. And that's key because 282 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: you have to understand if someone, let's just say, for instance, 283 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: someone is trying to gain access to a home where 284 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: they've punched out the glass, okay, and then stuck their 285 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: hand in, and you open the door with a door knob, 286 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: the glass will fall in that position. That's not what 287 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: they're seeing at the scene here, the door is literally 288 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: a jar. And then past that area where the door 289 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: is a jar, glass is strewn all about the floor 290 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: as if something else has happened here other than simply 291 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: a forced entry. Nancy, this is a nine pain glass door. 292 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: That means there's nine individual brackets are panes of glass. 293 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: Did you know that every single one of these pains 294 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: is fractured with radial fractures. That means that this takes 295 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of fords. Who wa whoa slow it down, Mustang, Sally, 296 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: what do you mean radial fractures? Well, we've got these 297 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: little fracture lines that kind of go out from one 298 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: central spot to the other. The glass is kind of 299 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: fractured in place, not all of it has fallen out, 300 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: but every single pain is fractured. It's not just the 301 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: one that has actually strewn where the glass has been 302 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: strewn from. That means that when this door was manipulated, 303 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: it was a tremendous strike that occurred because all of 304 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: these things fractured at one time. If we were just 305 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: talking about a common burglary that's knocking one pain out, 306 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: sticking your hand in and opening the doorknob, that's not 307 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: what happened in this case. To Catherine Casey, author of 308 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: Shattered on Amazon, Catherine, I'm curious about the door, the 309 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: closet door where she is balled up in a ball 310 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: but now face down when you walk into their bedroom. 311 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: Is the bedroom upstairs? Is it downstairs? Do you have 312 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: to walk through the bedroom to get to that closet door. 313 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: Is that one of those closets where you walk through 314 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: the bedroom, then you walk through the bathroom and it's 315 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: on the other side. Tell me about that closet. I'm very, 316 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: very curious as to the burglar that would go all 317 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the way through the home and find that closet. The 318 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: bedrooms on the second floor, Nancy, you walked up the stairs, 319 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: walked into a hallway, and then walked into the master bedroom. 320 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: The bed was straight ahead. There was a window to 321 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: the left, and when you turned a leno through the 322 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: window to the right, and when you turn to the left, 323 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: you walked into the master bathroom. Right off to the 324 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: left of the master bath is the closet we're below 325 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: this body was the door opened right and her legs 326 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: would have been visible as they walked as he walked 327 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: in interesting, Randy Joncinikenytimes owner. I thought that she had 328 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 1: barricaded herself in the in the closet and was hiding 329 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: in there. Wouldn't the door had been closed. Depends. It's 330 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: very possible that the person that shot her opened the 331 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: closet door and pulled the stir, but you would not 332 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: think so. So, Jessica Morgan, you do this for a living, 333 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: analyzing death scenes. What about it? You know? I look 334 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: at that closet, Nancy, from the perspective of trying to 335 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: corral somebody, of trying to get them into a tiny, 336 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: tiny area where they're going to be confined. And I think, 337 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: and another part of this is that when you get 338 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: them in this area and you've got all of this 339 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: clothing that's in there, is this has the potential to 340 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: muffle muffle sound. You can't hear many times. You can't 341 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: hear screaming, arguing, glass breaking, you can't hear furniture breaking, 342 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe you can't hear gunshot. The police investigation 343 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: immediately begins. Listen. Police respond to the urgent call. Just 344 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: moments later, they arrive at the Temple house, but they 345 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: have difficulty getting past the family's protective dog, Shaka. Shaka 346 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: was this round dog that David had Headson's College, and 347 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: it had a reputation going back to college as being 348 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: a vicious animal. People of Katie were afraid of that dog. 349 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: Shaka charged the fence at the gate. They wanted to 350 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: get in the house. They didn't know what was going on. 351 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: They had a report of a woman in distress upstairs. 352 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: They needed to get in there. The only option they 353 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: had at one point was to consider shooting the dog, 354 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: but the dog heals. Once David walks out of the house, 355 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: police make their way to the bedroom and find Belinda. 356 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: They quickly determined that she'd been shot once in the 357 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: back of the head. Both Belinda and her baby girl 358 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: are pronounced dead at the scene. There's no way with 359 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: a shooting in the back of the head, that this 360 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: could have been a suicide or an accidents, that she 361 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: was at home alone at the time of the death. 362 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: But long story short, it wasn't just the dog that 363 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: presented a question. The investigation into the tragedy begins immediately. 364 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: The house appears to have been ransacked, suggesting to police 365 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: that Belinda could have been the victim of a robbery 366 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: gone wrong. A cordless phone was found alongside Belinda's body, 367 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: suggesting she grabbed the phone and hidden the closet and 368 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: wanted to call for help. But there are some details 369 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: that don't quite make sense. Inside the house. You all 370 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: some drawers a little open in the dining room area 371 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: with things kind of peeked out of them a little bit. 372 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: Nothing really rifled through in much depth. But in the 373 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: entire house they didn't take anything. They didn't take a 374 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: VCR at TV, no jewelry, no money, no dishes, they 375 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: took nothing at all. Out from the house. You're hearing 376 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: our friends at Scorned and Kelly Sigler to Catherine Casey, 377 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: who has analyzed and dissected Bullenda's murderer in her best 378 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: selling books Shattered on Amazon. Catherine Casey, what are your 379 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: observations about the crime scene. Well, there were just multiple problems. 380 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Shaka is a big red flag. The fact 381 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: that the police officers couldn't get in the house, the 382 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: glasses they walked through. The police officers are walking into 383 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: the house, and the glasses not in front of the door. 384 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: When the doors closed, It's off to the side in 385 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: the living room. They stood there scratch their heads and 386 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: wondered why would that be that way. Then they walked upstairs, 387 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: followed the pass that Blenda would have taken that day, 388 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: and they see her car keys laying on one of 389 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: the steps, just dropped there. Moms don't leave their car 390 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: keys found steps when they have toddlers. Toddlers pick them 391 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: up and they disappear. They continued upstairs and walked through 392 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: the house. In addition to things not being strewn around, 393 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: they saw jewelry sitting out in the open. They saw money, 394 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of money. David's heavy Championship gold ring 395 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: is sitting on a dish. I mean, there were multiple 396 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: things and it just kept multiplying. They got into the 397 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: closet and this was a horrendous wound to Belinda's heads. 398 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: It's a horrendous wound, and they knew that there should 399 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: have been a lot of brain matters splattered around, but 400 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: they couldn't find it, so they started. As they started investigating, 401 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: they moved the clothing to the side, and they found 402 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: the brain matter on the wall behind a rack of slacks. 403 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: Somebody had pushed the slacks back can place after they 404 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: shocked the Linda. Somebody must have been wanting to hide 405 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: the evidence of what they had done. Wow, Joseph Scott Morgan. 406 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: A random killer does not stage the scene. A random 407 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: killer breaks in, they try to get what they can 408 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: carry out, they come upon by a person, they either 409 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: rape them and kill them or just kill them and 410 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: get the hay out of there. There's no staging the scene. 411 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: That's not right, Joe Scott. No, No, it's not Nancy. 412 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: And that's what we refer to as a disorganized crime scene, 413 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: where you have someone that literally burst through a house. 414 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: They're subduing somebody that presents in their mind at least 415 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: as a threat. Then they begin to rifle. And when 416 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: I say rifle, I mean I'm talking about pulling drawers out. 417 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: There's stuff strewn everywhere because they are actively hunting for 418 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: things of value that they can take with them. You 419 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: see this lots of times, for instance, with drug act 420 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: that break into houses. They're one focused is to try 421 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: to get things of value. If you happen to get 422 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: in their way, you're going to get hurt. But you know, 423 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: that's the weird thing about this Nancy. When you take 424 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: a look at say that dish that contains and there's 425 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: a dish, a great photo of a dish containing a 426 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: large championship ring, and this thing is gigantic, and it's gold, 427 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: and it's got diamonds in it and all kinds of stuff. 428 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: There's necklaces. None of that stuff is gone. There's a 429 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: half hearted attempt of a television that one of the 430 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: big old tube televisions that's laying on its face, that 431 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: looks like it was just pulled off of a console. 432 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: But beyond that, there's nothing to indicate that this is 433 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: somebody that's actively looking for items of value so that 434 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: they can sell it or pawn it, or do whatever 435 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: they need to do in order to feed a habit 436 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: something that's not right in its crimes. Well, maybe the 437 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: burglar was interrupted mid burglary. Based on the time of 438 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: the incident, listen to Richard slushinger Bone growing up ed 439 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: and Herman Roberts lived in the house behind the temples. 440 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: This is Herman Roberts. He's six years old. The police 441 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: spoke with them shortly after the murder. How many times 442 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: did you hear that? Why? I thought it was against that. 443 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: I was sure it was a gay shot. But when 444 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: exactly did the boys hear that? Bang? Hello? They happened 445 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: to be watching Doctor Doolittle at the time, and nine 446 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: years later they remember the exact point in the film 447 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: when they heard the sound right here, stop it here. 448 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: That scene is twenty four minutes and fifty seconds into 449 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: the movie. With that information, police could calculate roughly when 450 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: the boys heard that noise. They were dropped off here 451 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: at the bus stop at about three forty five, They 452 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: went home, did about ten or fifteen minutes worth of homework, 453 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: horsed around a little, and started the video. That would 454 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: mean if the boys are correct that the shot was 455 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: fired at about to Wendy Kionsini, owner of the Katie Times, 456 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: what do you make of the fact that nothing was 457 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: taken from the home, And if these neighbors we are 458 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: hearing are correct, the shooting occurred around four thirty in 459 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: the afternoon. Temple would have still been out with baby Evan. 460 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: Maybe a bad parent parenting call, but that's what the 461 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: neighbors say. Well, detectives believe it it was staged. They 462 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: said it didn't look right. As other people have said. 463 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: There there was nothing missing from the home. Even David 464 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: Temple said there was nothing missing from the home. So 465 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: if it was an actual burglary, the supposition is that 466 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: there would have been much more damage and destruction downstairs. 467 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: And usually burglars leave as soon as they realized someone 468 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: else is in the house. That was not the case 469 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: in this instance. Yeah, Brandy Kion's say, Katie, times are 470 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: absolutely right. As soon as a burglars sense is somebody's there, 471 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: they normally leave. But almost immediately someone is in the 472 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: middle of police crosshairs, someone you wouldn't suspect. The night 473 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: his wife, Belinda was murdered in January nineteen ninety nine, 474 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: David Temple told police he had no idea who did it. 475 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Everybody liked Blenda, didn't matter where she was, but later 476 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: he wondered about one of her students. The Temple's next 477 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: door neighbor, Riley Joe Sanders. They had had several battles 478 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: that I was aware of At the time. He was 479 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: sixteen and perpetually truant. Belinda had reported him to his parents. 480 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Do you think he killed BOLM? Honestly don't know, Riley. 481 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: Joe Sanders told a reporter he was in school all day, 482 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: but later admitted to the police he cut out to 483 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: smoke with friends. He was known to use his father's 484 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: twelve gage shotguns without permission. His friends had stolen shotguns 485 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: a few weeks earlier, and Sanders was in the area 486 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: around the time that other neighbors heard a sudden and 487 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: startling noise. It's been pointed out over and over that 488 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: an adulterer does not a killer. Make who murder pregnant 489 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: mom Belinda Temple, Nancy Grace Killers, amongst us signing off 490 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: goodbye friend