WEBVTT - BREAKING: 40 Passengers Left Hantavirus Cruise, Two Weeks After First Death! 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:05.320 Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, May seventh, and we 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.799 have gotten a significant update about that hantavirus cruise ship. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.840 Remember we were under the impression that the threat was 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.240 just to the people on that ship. Well, the information 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.560 we're getting now is that up to forty people got 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.640 off that ship and went back to those home countries 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:29.080 of theirs up to a dozen countries and yep, one 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.440 of them is the United States of America. And with that, 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.520 welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes different 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.280 story this morning. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.400 This is huge. This is a massive update that we 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:44.600 are just now learning about on Thursday, and it's been 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.239 a little interesting because the numbers have even changed for 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:53.479 the first time. Yeah, we're learning forty passengers left that 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:58.800 hantavirus cruise ship on the island of Saint Helena nearly 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.000 two weeks after the first patient died. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.440 Say that one more time for the people in the back. Yes, Robes, 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:07.560 forty is significant. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:12.560 Passengers went back to at least twelve countries two weeks 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:17.720 after that seventy year old man died of hauntavirus on 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.240 the cruise ship. Among those passengers was his wife, So 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.160 that was the only person we heard about and we 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.880 only heard about that yesterday that she actually flew on 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.839 a commercial plane from Saint Helena to Johannesburg. She gets 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:37.400 off the plane, she collapses in the airport and dies 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.800 later at the hospital. She was among the group of 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.480 people who disembarked. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.720 All right, so we need to robe. So you're what 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.440 you're saying here now, and what we are reporting this 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.440 is we don't want this to get into a sketchy 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.480 area of we are doubting the information we've been given. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.720 But Robes, there have been a complete one eighties in 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.920 information that's been given, and this information is critical to 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.240 public health right now. Now it's possible, I want to 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.559 give them all right, the possibility that information is coming 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.119 in and they are just learning and they're getting updates. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.880 But robes to be told, we had no idea first that, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.200 Oh it was a shock. Wait a minute, this woman 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.160 got on a commercial plane. Wait a minute, she was 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.440 on a commercial plane with other people from the same 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:25.680 infected ship. Okay, and wait a minute, she's not the 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.080 only one of people went all over the place. Robes, 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.160 folks are all over the world now and a race 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.480 is on to track them down and to get them away. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:37.359 From the general public. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.840 That is not an understatement. And here's the deal. Like this, 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.720 I know we don't want to doubt, we want to 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.200 be able to believe the information coming off the ship. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.600 But how about this for confusing Today today the company 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.000 that runs this ship said about twenty nine people got off, 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.200 and then just a short time later, Dutch officials came 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.760 out and said, no, it was more like forty people 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.920 got off. And we mentioned the twelve different countries that 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.360 these folks traveled to. They said two of the people 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.640 they're not sure where they're from. How I don't know 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.400 how they don't know their nationalities. But that was actually 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.520 also said today. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.200 A lot the update we have gotten in the past 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.240 twelve hours, I guess ropes. They have all been terrifying. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.640 I want to and we should ropes with this in 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.360 some kind of context. Here they're telling us the risk 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.880 to the general public is low, Are they not? They 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.480 are okay, because I'm not sure why, because we're dealing 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.160 with a strain that is passed from human to human 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.920 and an incubation period that could go up to two months. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.640 But nothing to worry about, nothing to see here. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.520 No, they're claiming that you either need to have close 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.560 intimate contact, as in you share a room or a 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.600 bed with someone, or you share food with someone. They're 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.240 claiming it has to be it doesn't spread the same 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.000 way a lot of viruses spread. But you know, we 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.720 learned a lot about viruses going through the coronavirus and 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.280 the pandemic, and we learned that viruses mutate, and epidemiologists 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.320 know this, so that I would think would be of 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.200 a concern because this is a rare, little studied, known 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.800 strain of the virus, the and the strain of the 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:17.160 haunt of virus. How many epidemiologists and scientists are well 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:22.640 versed in this very rare specific strain that was contained 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.880 to one corner of the world, in like this remote 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.839 area of Argentina. And now all these people have gone 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.240 back to their home countries. And this speaks to our confusion. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.440 Yesterday when all of a sudden, right before we came 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.760 on our podcast, we learned a Swiss man was in 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:47.000 a Swiss hospital with a confirmed case of haunt of virus. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.280 And that is when questions first started being raised, how 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.040 did he get to Switzerland. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.440 Because we had not heard about anybody getting off that 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.560 boat except in particular this couple. That's all we knew 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.760 at the time, So wrote that came a shock. Now 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.480 you said, people started questioning and sorry, rah Samina is 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:07.520 facetiming me as we're talking here, all right, So yes, 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.880 I still have not like us as my ring tone. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.200 But Rose, that was the first And you said people 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.240 started questioning. No, we started. We were in mid podcast. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.960 Wait wait a minute, wis. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.760 How do he can't get to Switzerland off a boat 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.919 in Antarctica? It was so confusing. So yes, he was 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:30.320 among those forty passengers who basically left. And at the 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.080 time they knew a man died on board, but they 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.640 didn't know what he died of. They didn't know how 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.480 he died, and they certainly didn't know he had a deadly, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:43.279 potentially contagious virus when they all disembarked. And so he 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.200 gets off and according to Swiss authorities, he was feeling 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.560 ill ill, yes, but he didn't suspect anything. He gets 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.680 an email from the cruise ship saying you might have 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.320 been exposed. If you feel ill, you should go to 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.720 the hospital, and that is when he went to the hospital. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.279 So he got an email. But now you have to 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.679 wonder how many of those forty are checking their email. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.080 How many of those forty might be feeling a little ill. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.599 How many of those forty are still going to work? 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.560 How many of those forty is still putting their kids 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.400 to bed? How many of those for right, you go 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.080 on and on and on, like this broke this. Well, 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.400 we're trying to keep this in context and not be 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.719 too alarmist and too scary. But this is robes. You 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.920 remember hearing about a little virus in Wuhan and like, oh, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.800 that's way away from us. Next thing, you know, we 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.960 can't leave the house. This is scary stuff with a 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.400 virus we don't know a lot about that, we don't 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.000 deal with a lot here and a strain that is 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.680 essentially the holy shit strain of this virus. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.479 Yes, because it passes from human to human and it 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.120 has a forty percent fatality rate. And when you look 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.000 and see the numbers right now, we now know confirmed 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.920 eight cases of haunted virus on that cruise ship and 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.159 three of those passengers are Three of those folks who 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:57.159 contracted the virus are dead. That is in line with 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.920 that four forty percent fatality rate. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.040 Help me with the breakdown. I know the numbers are changing. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:07.600 Eight total that we're talking about three dead. Three were 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.040 sick on the ship had to be evacuated. Were the 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:10.400 other two? 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.640 The other two one of them is in Switzerland in 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.680 a hospital and one of them is in South Africa 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:15.360 in a hospital. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.000 There is so a British. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.160 National in South Africa and a Swiss national in Switzerland. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.600 Okay, there it is. And the reminder here robes this 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.960 cannot There is no cure if you will, there isn't 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.360 even a specific treatment. It's a matter of essentially making 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.320 somebody uncomfortable as comfortable as you can give them, giving 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.560 them fluid. There's not much you can do is hope 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.880 and wait they are strong enough to survive and invite 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:38.400 this thing off. 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.520 That's truly where we are on this virus. Yes, and 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.200 I know that ventilators are used as a last ditch 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.000 effort to try and and help someone get through the 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.200 virus on their own. But literally, your body has to 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.480 fight it. They can try to make you, yes, more comfortable, 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.400 keep you hydrated, and try to keep the fluid out 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.400 of your lungs, and that is what doctors try to 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.680 do when you contract this disease. But here's the pointed 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:05.000 out there is an up to eight week incubation period 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.520 for this. So this is tough. If you think about 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.000 the fact that the first passenger died on April eleventh, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.200 then on April twenty fourth, you got forty passengers leaving, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:20.400 one of whom collapses hours later in an airport and 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.160 dies shortly thereafter. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.600 Rose. I still don't have a good handle, and I'm 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.360 sorry if I'm putting you on the spot. We don't 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:30.600 know yet. When are you contagious? Right? If you contract it, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.160 you don't actually start showing symptoms for a little while. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.959 When do you actually get contagious? Because the timeline you 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.480 talk about is scary as hell. They believe this couple 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.600 originally got it when they first took off from Argentina, right, 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.000 so they got it. It's April first, So they get 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.120 on the ship April first, he gets sick April six, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.200 He dies on April eleventh. They get off on April 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:58.120 twenty fourth, but rose from April first until the twenty fourth. Yes, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.360 he died, but his wife is still on bar. They 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.720 don't know what's going on. Didn't seem sick. They let 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.800 people know on the ship. There's video of this. The 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.439 guy you got off. Now the captain tells everybody, we've 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.120 had a passenger die. But after that, everybody was still 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.520 mingling on the ship as if nothing was a threat. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.319 Look, he was a seventy year old man. 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:18.959 Look that's not that old. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.360 But it wouldn't be that shocking that he could have 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.720 had a heart attack. He could have had you know, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.760 a lot of underlying conditions. So no one really thought 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.720 anything of it, including his own wife, who obviously felt 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.840 well enough, who was allowed and wasn't. There was no concern, 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.840 there was no red flag rais, no eyebrows raised that 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:41.040 maybe she could be also somehow sick as well. So 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.040 she was allowed to get off the ship. She was 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.120 allowed to get on a plane to follow her husband 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.760 back home, but she never made it. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.000 Ro How sick would she have had to have been 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:56.040 that in one flight she passes out ropes at the 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.280 end of the flight. That had to be at her sickest. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:03.880 When you argue, and she's on a commercial airline, enclosed 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:08.720 airspace with all those folks, and look, if it took her, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.640 let's just say, if it took her two weeks basically 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.080 to exhibit signs. Anyone who's been on that plane, you 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.360 know we're right around that mark, I guess four twenty 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.360 four and trying to do the math. But yeah, that's 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.120 still some scary stuff. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.120 Because it could be two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:24.720 five weeks, they. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.160 Tell us it could be a while, and we don't 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.079 know this Swiss passenger who now has tested positive, who's 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.240 now in the hospital. Look, they don't really know. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:33.079 I've read. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.320 They're now trying to figure out how he got back home, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.720 the flights he took to get back. Every one of 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.720 these people now to go back and try to find 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.760 who they got into contact with and who they were 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.640 enclosed shared airspace with. Because look, if you're exhibiting symptoms, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.680 I don't know how this virus spreads, but most virus 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.760 spreads through fluids, through bodily fluids. So if you're coughing, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.520 if you're sneezing, if you're you know, any saliva gets anywhere, 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.480 that would be the mode of transmission you would assume. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.840 So yet in a closed space, that ain't so great. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.520 But rome's we talk about the closed space. They believe 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.319 it started with these two like the elderly couple, another 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.560 six some kind hand away got sick. How did these 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.920 two end up in close contact. Like you said, you 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.680 have to spread. It's not like the flu, right, you 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.439 can't just well excuse me, it's not just so aerosolized 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.320 that you just a sneeze will do it, right. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.200 They they claim that it has to be close contact, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:28.000 close contact. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.560 Well, six other people some kind of way got in 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.280 close contact with these two. I know, did those other 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.280 six be in close contact with somebody else? And then 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.400 though it just goes on. We don't know. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.719 Yeah, we don't know if the Swiss national who's now 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.000 in the hospital, if he was on that same plane 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.920 with the wife. We don't know if the British national 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.360 who's now in Johannesburg in a hospital, if he was 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.760 on that same plane. We don't have a lot of information. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.200 And I think that's what's so concerning right now. So 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.080 when we come back, we're going to talk about because 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.760 we have a whole other issue. This ship is now 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.280 making its way toward towards the Canary Islands. The Canary 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.600 Island folks don't want them to dock, and there is 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.120 a political battle brewing within Spain as to what to 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.320 do with these folks. And even if they're allowed to 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.400 get off on the Canary Islands. What do they do 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.360 with all these folks who have lots of countries to 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.520 head back home to. We'll explain what the plan is 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:34.000 when we come back and welcome back everyone to this 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.760 episode of Amy and TJ, where there are just some 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.800 major developments with this Haunt of Virus cruise ship scare 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.400 because now we have dozens of people scattered all around 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.440 the world who have possibly been exposed to hauntavirus, and 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:54.840 now local authorities in at least twelve different countries, including 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.439 the United States, are scrambling to try and contact trace 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.400 these individuals who they've come into contact with, isolate them 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.040 and monitor them. And that's where we are while this 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.520 ship is still on the move. It left Cape ver day, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.800 or at least the waters off of Cape Verde, the 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.320 western tip of Africa, Wednesday afternoon. They are heading north 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.720 towards the Canary Islands over local objections because the Canary 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.800 Island leaders say we don't want them here, and the 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.240 Spanish health minister said they're going to go regardless, and 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:28.920 he actually said we're not going to get into the 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.240 political controversy. I believe it's not the time, but still 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.800 this is going to come to a point where they're 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.960 going to have to figure out what to do in 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.160 three days or so when this ship is there at 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:44.720 the Canary Islands, they're set right now to begin evacuations 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.520 of the passengers who are still on board as early 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:48.480 as Monday. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.400 Wait a minute, so at the Canary Islands. Yes, okay, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.760 but right now Spain is saying sure you can knock there. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.320 The Canary Islands leaders are saying, ah, exactly right, So 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.440 who has I soon? The Spanish leaders are the ones 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.760 who have say. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.480 They do have say over the ports, they do have 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.920 say over what they can basically go above the heads 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.600 of local leaders. But still, if you have the local community, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:17.000 the local government there vehemently opposing you docking, it's just 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.320 a little concerning what may actually happen. So there's a 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:24.680 meeting apparently that's going on today to discuss the evacuation 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.400 process and how you get these people who are going 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:32.000 to have to be quarantined ultimately to their third countries, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:36.240 basically anywhere other than Spain or the Netherlands. And look, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.480 we know what Spaniards plan to do. There are fourteen 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.000 Spanish passengers aboard that board right now. They're saying they're 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.360 going to put them in a military hospital in Madrid, quarantined, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:50.640 isolated for a forty five day incubation period. That's the 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.440 plan for the Spanish passengers. But what do we do 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.680 with the other passengers who are from all these other countries? 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.760 Are they just isn't going to become treat a country 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.720 to decide what to do. But we've got Americans who 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.560 have returned home and have been home for a while 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.240 because they were among those forty who left the ship 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:15.240 two weeks after that dutch Man died. We have them 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:20.480 in Georgia, California, and Arizona. That's what we know right now. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.640 Okay, and now you told me earlier. A lot of 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.760 these folks are going back to their home countries. A 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.640 lot of them are being monitored. They know where they 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.400 are where. There are some right now who are still 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.040 out there saying in the wind, if you will, that 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.040 might not know, they need to be concerned. And well, 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:38.960 at this point, everybody, I think they probably know now. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.640 But the thing is, do you want to tell anyone like, hmmm, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:43.920 do I really think about this though? If you're like, 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.440 I feel fine, this is ridiculous. They say the risk 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.320 is low. You're now just hoping that the people who 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:55.280 were on board will voluntarily isolate for forty five days. 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.760 Yes, this is not COVID, now, excuse me, it's not. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.440 It is similar to COVID in that we don't know 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:04.960 a whole lot about it, right, A lot of us 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.880 are getting caught up. It's not a brand new thing 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.880 like COVID was. But what was the death rate for COVID? 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.280 Yeah, this is forty percent. 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.600 Okay, this is not something to mess around with. Oh, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.800 I'll just go to work because I feel fine. This 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.520 is a responsibility. You could get somebody killed. Yes, let's hope. 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.680 So we know two residents in the state of Georgia 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.440 who were on that ship are in good health and 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.520 showing no signs of infection, according to Georgia authorities. In Arizona, 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.280 they say they are monitoring one resident who was, yes, 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.200 a passenger on board the ship and is not symptomatic. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:41.440 In California, it's a little unclear. We got the word 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.920 that this is how they phrased it. The Department of 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:49.200 Public Health has been notified by the CDC that California 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.080 residents plural have been on the ship, but we have 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.000 no info that they are ill or infected. That didn't 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.800 seem like a good enough statement. Again, all of this 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.920 is just coming to light, so there is some scrambling 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:07.280 going on, but it felt really generic. The California statement, 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:08.560 what rose? 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.440 How long did they tell us we had to quarantine 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.679 to be safe with COVID? It was fourteen days? Fourteen 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.800 days to be in the clear. Yes, are the numbers 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.560 all over the place. How long do you need to 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:18.439 be in the clear for this? 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.119 Yes, it was so obviously Spain says they're going with 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.920 forty five days. We've heard some folks say it's eight weeks, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.240 so sixty days it's but I haven't heard anything less 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:30.200 than forty five days. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.359 To think, a lot of us and a lot of 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.000 people listening now had at some point did a quarantine 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.240 with code. Oh yes, I had to. I had a 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.760 couple of Okay, now, think about doing that for a month 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:42.919 and a half or two months. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.439 That's my point. People are unwilling to check out or 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.840 opt out of life or contact with anyone for that long. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:54.320 So you're asking all of these people to self isolate 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:59.439 and granted, obviously, once your local municipality knows that you 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.639 were on that show, they're going to monitor you for 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.399 obvious reasons. But this is scary as hell, and I 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.440 guess it just feels like it feels like we kind 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:13.760 of got hit with this. And why wouldn't we have 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:18.440 known sooner? Why would the ship not have put out 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.840 this alert sooner? And granted they were clearly sending emails 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.320 to people, but they weren't letting the rest of us 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.080 know that this was actually or this had happened, that 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.119 this many passengers had gotten off the boat. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.879 And again want to leave room there for maybe they 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.159 were getting caught up, maybe they were understanding, maybe they 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.600 were finding out what was going on. But Robes, this 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:44.560 at least this company was aware as early as August sixth, maybe, 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:49.720 but definitely excuse me, April right April, yes, April eleventh, 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.560 when he died. This became for the company a big deal. 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.960 It was reported they were aware of it. And again Robes, 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.040 did they for two weeks just not think there was 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.480 anything to worry about it? That's possible. So when those 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.600 folks got off on April twenty fourth, Robes, everybody's looking 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.000 like there's nothing to worry about. We have okay, Yes, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.120 life is normal. They never thought about this dead guy 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:12.960 again once they got off the ship, right and not. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.040 Probably oh, they just probably thought he died of natural causes. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.680 Then people start getting sick, and I guess you look 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.879 into it more. But man robes, they keep telling us 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:23.840 the risk is low. I don't want us to be 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.919 that thing where we're soundings. I'm alarmed, but it's just 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.600 this is terrifying to a certain degree of virus that 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.680 we're not familiar with, that kills forty percent of the 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.640 people that infects, and it's moving from human to human, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.800 and we don't know where many of the humans are 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.920 who were on that ship. Damn ropes. 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.639 I don't think it's alarmist at all to be concerned. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.880 I don't think it's alarmist at all to be vigilant. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.679 And this is a case in which you want people, 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:52.000 or at least you hope that your health officials would, 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:56.000 out of an abundance of caution, do everything they can 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:00.680 to make sure that no other person dies this virus. 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.320 Period. Again, they keep telling us it's hard for it 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.080 to move from human to human. It's difficult, it takes 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.960 prolonged contact. Even they say, I hear that, I hear 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.880 what you're saying, but there are eight people. Now you're 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.000 telling me who got sick. That's a lot of human 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.840 and human contact ropes on a ship. I guess it's 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.160 close proximity on a ship. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.159 Yes, how could it not be. I've been on plenty 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:26.280 of cruise ships. 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.760 And so is a plane. Yes, yes, And they say 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.200 nothing to worry Else wants to say nothing to worry about. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.440 But bros, you even think about what about the uber 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.200 driver who maybe picked up the passenger from the airport? 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.199 Oh god, you know, you just think about all the 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.200 people that you come in contact with, and so this 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.959 is deeply, deeply concerning. We're going to obviously keep our 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.080 eye on this developing story because there is so much 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.439 more to come, especially when that cruise ship reaches the 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.080