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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou all CALABC and two time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander.

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Speaker 5: So it's been a little while since we've had Zoe

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Speaker 5: here in studio, although I just saw him yesterday, the

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Speaker 5: day before that, the day before that. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: cannot turn on your television without seeing Lorenzo Alexander doing something. Wow,

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Speaker 5: pitch Man, congrats. Yeah, yeah, you might have a future

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Speaker 5: in this broadcasting industry.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: You know, I enjoyed. I love coming here and talking

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Speaker 7: shot with you. Guys also with Ron Woolfley and them boys,

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Speaker 7: you know over on ninety eight seven. So it's a

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Speaker 7: good time. I love you know, talking ball, how you

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Speaker 7: can grow, how you can see it at the different perspectives,

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Speaker 7: you know obviously when in the off season. Now, so

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Speaker 7: how can you change culture, develop a football team? You know,

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Speaker 7: talent that you want to bring in, all those things

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Speaker 7: that's going to allow you to run a really a

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Speaker 7: successful program and organization.

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Speaker 5: And congratulations as well, you've got a new gig since

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Speaker 5: we last had you here in studio.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll be over at CAO. That's

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Speaker 7: my alma mater. Tash Lupoy is back in the building.

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Speaker 7: I played with him four years while I was there.

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Speaker 7: You know, he went to Dayla soals a local barrier

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Speaker 7: guy as well, like us all in here. And so

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Speaker 7: it's going to be really cool to be able to

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Speaker 7: go back over there and impact those young men and

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Speaker 7: really help them obviously become or get them an opportunity

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Speaker 7: to maybe playing in the NFL, but really just be

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Speaker 7: impactful people as they transition and really take advantage of

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Speaker 7: all that CAL has to offer and really understand what

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Speaker 7: that means long term. You know, once you're done playing

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Speaker 8: So I mean, Craig, for more than a decade, Calvic

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Speaker 8: Consulting has suggested, highly recommend and referred Lorenzo Alexander to

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Speaker 8: be incorporated somehow, some way into the program. Thankfully, coach

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Speaker 8: Loupoy actually listened to us. We'll send an invoice accordingly.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 5: So the good news for us though here on the

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Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals radio network is it will not impact your

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Speaker 5: ability to join us. No occasion here during the season

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Speaker 5: and even in the off season.

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Speaker 4: No, not at all. You know, I'd be you know,

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Speaker 7: Now the family got you know, my daughter's graduating from

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Speaker 5: Speaking of coaching, we actually, Paul have coaches that we

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Speaker 5: can now say are officially Arizona Cardinals, as Michael Leflor,

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Speaker 5: the brand new head coach of the Arizona Cardinals late

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Speaker 5: the other reported new position highers and guys that are

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Speaker 8: It's interesting. You see the gamut here right, A Nathaniel

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Speaker 5: You did miss two aspects on the resume of Hackett

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's why I'm looking at Nathaniel Hackett, you know.

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Speaker 5: Not the play caller, but someone that Mike can turn

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Speaker 5: So now all of a sudden you get maybe a

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Speaker 8: There are still so many unknowns on the Cardinals offense.

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Speaker 8: Who is going to be QB one? If it is

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Speaker 8: Jacoby Brissett, okay, great, he'll be in year eleven. Think

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Speaker 8: You know, what are you doing on that offense? The line?

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Speaker 5: much will it change based off personnel what Mike Laflor

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Speaker 9: As we went through the interview process, the clear winner

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Speaker 6: Let's be real. I mean, this is a bottom line business, period.

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Speaker 5: Very process driven. Mike Lafloor. Least in the limited interactions

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, that's the benefit of coaching in Arizona,

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Speaker 8: Everyone knows another off season home.

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Speaker 7: I'm gone, right, you know, so guys stay around working

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Speaker 10: You look at his resume and he's been around a

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Speaker 5: The mentorship matters. You talked about it, Zoe, And then

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Speaker 7: And you know, even when you look at Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 7: I don't know if their run game is as intecol

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Speaker 7: as it is with the forty nine ers, Right, And

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Speaker 7: we see their quarterback gets hurt often because of that. Right,

438
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Speaker 7: Their offensive line can't block as well because of that,

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Speaker 7: because they don't put the same emphasis on the run game.

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Speaker 7: So I know this based on what he's probably seen

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Speaker 7: and who he's been around the most. That run game

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Speaker 7: and being able to run the ball, be physical and

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Speaker 7: gash folks there and then play action off of it

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Speaker 7: and make things look the same that are different is

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Speaker 7: going to be at his court. It has to be,

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Speaker 7: especially when we think about where this offensive line is

447
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Speaker 7: currently right now and the pieces, and that's going to

448
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Speaker 7: only help them elevate their game because now they people

449
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Speaker 7: won't have to diss I'm not worried about the run

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Speaker 7: because y'all can't run the ball and they don't want

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Speaker 7: to stick with it. So I'm just gonna pin my

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Speaker 7: ears back and get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 8: And for everything the Rams did last year in the

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Speaker 8: past game, MVP quarterback Pokin Nakula led the NFL catchers

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Speaker 8: and receiving yards are top two. DeVonta Adams letting the

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Speaker 8: NFL and receiving touchdowns. Guess what, they had two running

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Speaker 8: backs who combined for nearly two thousand yards rushing, and

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Speaker 8: kyn Williams and Blake.

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Speaker 5: Corum finish top ten and rushing after going bottom ten

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Speaker 5: the year before. And McVeigh credits a lot of that

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Speaker 5: to Michael four putting his hands on the run game

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Speaker 5: and turning things around. How about we get to know

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Speaker 5: a little bit more about the Cardinals head coach whach recently,

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Speaker 5: Danny Sirek going one on one with the Cardinals new

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Speaker 5: head coach.

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Speaker 11: You've had success as an offensive coordinator in New York,

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Speaker 11: Garrett Wilson had one thousand yards receiving as a rookie.

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Speaker 11: Most recently, in LA, you led the most prolific offense

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Speaker 11: in the NFL, averaging eland four hundred yards and thirty

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Speaker 11: points a game. What elements as a coach are transferable

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Speaker 11: to Arizona regardless of personnel.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well we got players here, There's no doubt. I

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Speaker 6: mean again, I've been in this division for seven years.

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Speaker 6: Obviously rosters changed a year and a year out, but

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Speaker 6: playing this team this year, just talking about the offense,

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Speaker 6: there's players there, you know, and there's foundational aspects of

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Speaker 6: what we'll do offensively that are very similar to New York,

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Speaker 6: that are very similar to LA. But it'll be fit

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Speaker 6: around these guys, you know. You talk about Marvin, Michael

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Speaker 6: and obviously Trey you know, I mean people die to

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Speaker 6: be able to work with those guys and will continue

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Speaker 6: to elevate this roster and put them in a position

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Speaker 6: to be successful.

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Speaker 11: You've coached a handful of playmakers and Matt Ryan one

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Speaker 11: MVP when you were in Atlanta, Matthew Stafford, George Kittle.

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Speaker 11: You mentioned your three Headed Monster and Tray McBride Michael

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Speaker 11: Wilson and Marvin Harrison Junior. Let's turn in in that

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Speaker 11: offensive mine of yours. When thinking about your new Oh,

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Speaker 11: I just.

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Speaker 6: I just want to get working with them, you know,

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Speaker 6: because they are I mean, they're and then they're good dudes.

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Speaker 6: You know when I when I came here for the interview,

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Speaker 6: I walk right through that front door right into the cafeteria,

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Speaker 6: and the first three people that were there were those three,

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Speaker 6: And I said, this is a great omen right here,

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Speaker 6: because they're in here in the off season. It's February,

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Speaker 6: let alone April, and and they were the three getting breakfast,

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Speaker 6: hanging out together, getting ready to go to work.

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Speaker 10: So it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get you know, this staff together.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna evaluate this roster and figure out how we

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Speaker 6: can add even more pieces to it.

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Speaker 11: We'll qualities in a cornerback best fit your scheme.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, guys that can process and rip through you know, progressions.

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Speaker 6: But more importantly than that, just toughness. I mean to

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Speaker 6: be able to sit back there. Not everyone's gonna throw

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Speaker 6: the same. You want what we call natural throwers. What

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Speaker 6: does that mean? Does it look right right? Does it

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Speaker 6: come out you know on time and all that ripping

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Speaker 6: through the progressions, like said, but ultimately they play in

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Speaker 6: the pocket.

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Speaker 4: They got to be tough.

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Speaker 6: And you know, the guys that you just talked about,

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Speaker 6: Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford two the best really to

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Speaker 6: ever do it.

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Speaker 11: We've learned from two of the most creative minds coaching

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Speaker 11: football today. And Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan. What have

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Speaker 11: those two taught you about what it takes to win?

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Speaker 6: You know? I mean there's that'd be countless, you know,

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Speaker 6: and we could go on for hours on that. But

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Speaker 6: the thing that stands out to me with both of

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Speaker 6: those guys that I really took right off the rip

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Speaker 6: in twenty fourteen with Kyle as an offensive coordinator in Cleveland,

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Speaker 6: it's just daily urgency, like like, we've got to go.

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Speaker 6: This league doesn't wait for anyone. Now, We're gonna thoroughly

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Speaker 6: and thoughtfully, you know, do what we got to do.

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Speaker 6: But it's got to get done, and we got to move,

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Speaker 6: you know, and we got to have a bouncing our

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Speaker 6: step when we go. And when we do that, man,

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Speaker 6: the players files shuit with it. You know. So again,

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Speaker 6: this league doesn't wait, fan bases don't want to wait.

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Speaker 6: We understand that that's the league we signed up for.

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Speaker 6: That's what makes it so cool.

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Speaker 5: Don't waste time, and Michael Floor is not wasting any time.

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Speaker 5: Just a portion of Danny's lengthy sit down with Michael Floor.

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Speaker 5: Go to the Arizona Cardinals official YouTube channel to hear

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Speaker 5: the extended version of that one on one A good

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Speaker 5: ten minute sit down, and part of that also included

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Speaker 5: a question about his play calling with the New York Jets. Again,

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Speaker 5: on the surface, maybe it didn't go very well, although

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Speaker 5: Lafloor called it a net positive because going back to

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Speaker 5: what you said, Zoe about Nathaniel Hackett in Denver. All right,

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Speaker 5: maybe it didn't go great, but what were the lessons

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Speaker 5: that you took from that? And all of a sudden

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Speaker 5: you feel better, more confident when you get the opportunity

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Speaker 5: a second time.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: I think a lot of people you you know, everybody

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Speaker 7: wants to have this straight line and path to success.

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Speaker 7: But we all know, if you've lived long enough, right,

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Speaker 7: life is up down, turn you on top of your head,

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Speaker 7: and in that moment, in that discomfort, if you lean

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Speaker 7: into it, if you seek it, that's where you learn

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Speaker 7: the most. That's how you become great. That's where you

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Speaker 7: learned the little nuances of the game, a lot about

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Speaker 7: yourself and what you could do differently if you have

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Speaker 7: that self awareness, in that humility to do it in

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Speaker 7: that moment. And it's sounds like he has. And even

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Speaker 7: though he didn't call plays last year, he was on

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Speaker 7: that mic with Sean McVay listening in. You know, he

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Speaker 7: was utilizing Okay, this is what I did when I

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Speaker 7: was with New York. Okay, let me see what Sean

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Speaker 7: is doing on what that conversation is. Like, I'm measuring

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Speaker 7: up and so you're constantly learning the good ones are.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's what I love when he has

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Speaker 7: that frame of reference of like, it wasn't great, but

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Speaker 7: it was a net positive because I took so much

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Speaker 7: from it that I now apply. And if we're just

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Speaker 7: going to streamline his transition and hopefully what he's able

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Speaker 7: to bring to Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, anybody can watch the Kyle Shanahan film and Sean

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Speaker 8: McVay film and the x's and o's and most everyone

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Speaker 8: does in the NFL. But he's been in the trenches.

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Speaker 8: He's been in those meeting rooms, he's been there on

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Speaker 8: game day at halftime with the adjustments, the adjustments on

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Speaker 8: the sideline, Why are they installing this? Why are they

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Speaker 8: pivoting to this mid game? It's those sort of things

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Speaker 8: that to come full circle with Zoe's talking about the

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Speaker 8: experience Michael for who he's been around, what day Pastor's

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Speaker 8: referring to. I think that's what's most intriguing. And let's

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Speaker 8: face and Michael bidwill mention it. It was one of

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Speaker 8: the key reasons he was hired a.

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Speaker 5: Former position coach as well wide receivers coach with the

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Speaker 5: forty nine ers. So he has worked his way up

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Speaker 5: the ladder. Now what is it going to look like? Well,

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Speaker 5: we'll try to give our ideas on what potentially first

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Speaker 5: up the offense and who might benefits the most with

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Speaker 5: Michae Lafloor as the head coach. That's next here on

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Speaker 5: the Arizona Cardinoles Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: Stafter Psett drops back and throw in Trouble steps up

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Speaker 2: to hoisted deep left side, Wilson is wide open and

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Speaker 2: he's got it. Touchdown Arizona. Michael Wilson beats his man again.

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Speaker 2: This time Brissett finds him. They pay off the fake

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Speaker 2: punt with a bomb On the next play for six.

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Speaker 9: Percent deep go ball down the left sideline, airs it out,

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Speaker 9: perfect pass, Michael.

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Speaker 5: Wilson, touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Michael Wilson now has at least one touchdown catch in

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Speaker 2: five straight games.

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Speaker 12: Looking at me, Marvin Trey like, I'm excited to, you know,

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Speaker 12: get with an offensive guy who hopefully can you know,

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Speaker 12: maximize all of our skill sets and I'm just excited

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Speaker 12: to get to work.

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Speaker 5: One of the many players at the introductory press conference

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Speaker 5: for Michael laflor Michael Wilson, Oh, yeah, he saw what

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Speaker 5: the offense looked like under three years as as Lafleur

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Speaker 5: was the OC with the Los Angeles Rams. No, he

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Speaker 5: didn't call plays, but saw what and we just talked

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Speaker 5: about it. Zoe what Yeah, the Rams did running the

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Speaker 5: ball with the Rams did passing the ball? Now, can

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Speaker 5: you take some of that and bring it to Arizona. No,

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Speaker 5: you're not going to bring the personnel, but the concepts

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Speaker 5: and putting a Michael Wilson a Marvin Harrison junior training

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Speaker 5: bride in position to be successful.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go back a little bit, so when I

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Speaker 7: was in Washington in I don't know when Shanahan get

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Speaker 7: there maybe twenty ten Mike Shanahan I'm talking about right

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Speaker 7: where all this A lot of this is birthed out

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Speaker 7: of he brought in. And I'm pretty sure this his

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Speaker 7: stats are off the charts now and he probably claimed

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Speaker 7: a lot of what Kyle and all everybody else is doing,

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Speaker 7: but he put Mike Shanahan's office versus everybody else's and

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Speaker 7: like he ranked like number one and like every single category,

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Speaker 7: like what he been doing from the forty nine or

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Speaker 7: days up until that point, which I'm pretty sure is

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Speaker 7: still doing really well in the NFL when you look

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Speaker 7: about his tree and how impactful that was.

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Speaker 4: So I know that whatever comes here is going.

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Speaker 7: To be impactful, just because it's just like what Kyle

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Speaker 7: wherever he's been, every quarterback is pretty much done pretty well.

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Speaker 7: Every offense is done pretty well, no matter what the

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Speaker 7: pieces really are. They've been fairly efficient, if not explosive

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Speaker 7: on offense. And we see that with the forty nine

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Speaker 7: is year in and year out, people get hurt. Are

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Speaker 7: they going to be down? They find their way some

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Speaker 7: way to be relevant, right, And so I know if

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Speaker 7: he brings the foundation, the culture, all that is going

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Speaker 7: to be here when he comes over to the Cardinals,

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Speaker 7: and yes, their personnel isn't what those other teams are.

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Speaker 4: But because the scheme, you know.

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Speaker 7: From a defender's perspective, it's so hard to defend it

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Speaker 7: against because everything looks the same. I keep saying that,

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Speaker 7: and I'm telling you that that little split decision and

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Speaker 7: I'm going against some of the best people in the world.

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Speaker 7: That's all they need to get leverage on me to

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Speaker 7: block me, right, And so when I think about who

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Speaker 7: this is going to benefit the most, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 7: you can talk about receiver and quarterback, but the offensive line,

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Speaker 7: this is a great scheme to be in because gap

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Speaker 7: schemes are a little bit harder. I think the zone

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Speaker 7: scheme is a little bit more forgiving because the running

652
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 7: back is just going where the defender isn't right, and

653
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 7: as an offensive line, I'm taking you pretty much where

654
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 7: you want to go. And so when you think about

655
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 7: Paris Johnson, when you think about fro Hold and whoever

656
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 7: those other pieces are going to be, I think that's

657
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 7: where the most. I think the biggest leap we're going

658
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 7: to see in terms of consistent play, and we know

659
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 7: that is the engine for everything. And so that's then

660
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 7: going to breed confidence. What then is going to then

661
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 7: impact the pass protection and then obviously the offensive line

662
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 7: or the rest of the offense will benefit from their consistency.

663
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 7: But that's what I see or think is going to

664
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 7: happen in terms of this scheme coming over in the

665
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 7: impact they'll have.

666
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 8: Well, think about Mike Lafleur with Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta

667
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 8: when Shanahan was THEOC taking Matt Ryan and that offense

668
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 8: to the Super Bowl this close twenty eight to three.

669
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: They led that.

670
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 8: Game, right, but that year for Matt Ryan and the

671
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 8: Atlanta team to make the Super Bowl, that was pretty

672
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 8: that was pretty much out of nowhere. And then to

673
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 8: take Jimmy g and the forty nine ers when Kyle

674
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 8: Shanahan and they went to the fourth quarter of a

675
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 8: Super Bowl in this close to winning one. And then

676
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 8: the emergence of Rock Perdy before he then ended up

677
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 8: going over to the New York Jets, and you know,

678
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 8: and look think of all the different quarterbacks he had

679
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 8: to work with the Jets and they were still seven

680
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 8: and four in a season where they had Zach Wilson

681
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 8: and Mike White and Joe Flacco. They had four different

682
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 8: quarterbacks that year. It was only when the offensive line

683
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 8: got decimated and then the bottom fell out and they

684
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 8: lost their last six games. So my point is to

685
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 8: bolster what Zoe's saying. You know, he's spending so many

686
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 8: different schemes of so many different quarterbacks, so many different circumstances.

687
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 8: They don't think he finds any of this daunting. He's

688
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 8: looked at these challenges before, and he's been part of

689
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 8: a coaching staff that's navigated a solution, and it starts.

690
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 5: With the offensive line. Then, as you mentioned Zoe, the

691
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 5: run game, what does this mean for a Trey Benson,

692
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 5: What does this mean for Bam Knight who was with

693
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: the Jets when Laflora was there, Michael Carter who's going

694
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 5: to be scheduled to be a free agent, but Yell

695
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 5: was also with the Jets on that team as well.

696
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 5: So what do they know that perhaps now all of

697
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 5: a sudden, this offense could do because remember when things

698
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 5: we're clicking here, it was because of a top five

699
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 5: rushing attack, right. Didn't have that last.

700
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 7: Year, No, And I think they can get back to

701
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 7: it again. This is a running backs dream too. Going

702
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 7: back to again Mike Shanahan, he had like three every year,

703
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 7: be a different running back and everyone get a thousand

704
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 7: yards right, Clinton, Porters, Mike Baio, and it's you know,

705
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 7: three or four other names, and.

706
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: They're like, man, where does Duke come Where do you

707
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: come from?

708
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 6: Right?

709
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 7: Because it's really friendly, right, there's no real spots you

710
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 7: gotta get to. You're just reading using your eyes and

711
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 7: then using your athleticism down he'll make that one cut

712
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 7: go and get four or five. And then when you

713
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 7: have that ability to break break loose, then that's when

714
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 7: you use your you know, your breakaway speed. So offensive

715
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 7: line running back are gonna have I think a big

716
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 7: jumping production and consistency just by the scheme alone, because

717
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 7: again it's really hard to find from a defensive standpoint,

718
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 7: because do I need to fall back when you when

719
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 7: you think about the juice or you check right? And

720
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 7: how they use him at full back motions and changing

721
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 7: gap of responsibilities for the defenses. He going backside, he's

722
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 7: staying front side, is he's faking like he's going back

723
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 7: and stay in front side? All those little nuances that

724
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 7: I think they'll be able to bring over here and

725
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 7: probably bringing a full back, which you know, I don't

726
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 7: know if they have on the roster that that's like

727
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 7: a U check, right, he's one of the time. But

728
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 7: they can find a body type that can do some

729
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 7: of those things and really be able to help their

730
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 7: running game. And that's a I think an easier fine

731
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 7: than trying to go out there and find your QB

732
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 7: one the first year. Right, you can find somebody that

733
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 7: can do a cole Uschak type of role that's going

734
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 7: to help you your offense immediately in this offseason.

735
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: A lot of unknown within this offense at least, what's

736
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 5: it going to look like? We do know this for

737
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 5: a fact, And I believe it was one of your

738
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 5: questions Paul or a follow up Mike lafor he wants

739
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 5: to call plays and he's looking forward to calling plays.

740
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: Once again, I missed it.

741
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 6: There's something about calling plays like you're just kind of

742
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 6: in it, you know, and there's a tone at which

743
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 6: you talk to that quarterback as well. I really believe

744
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 6: that you know like what they're hearing in that moment.

745
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 6: It is so hard to play quarterback in this league.

746
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 6: And you know, obviously he has the harder job as

747
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 6: the quarterback compared to the play caller, but you are

748
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 6: in it with him, and it's an aspect of football

749
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 6: that I missed.

750
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: Believe, if I remember correctly, Paul, you couldn't even get

751
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: the question all the way out before Mike. Again, he

752
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 5: was polite, interrupting, Oh yeah, I missed it. And he

753
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: made it very clear two or three different times during

754
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 5: that introductory press conference that yes, I am the play caller.

755
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: I missed it, and I think I can get back

756
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 5: to what we were doing well even though didn't go

757
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 5: or didn't end well in New York.

758
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, based on the zeal with which he answered the question,

759
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 8: I'm guessing that was a huge selling point of becoming

760
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 8: a head coach again. As much as he enjoyed life

761
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 8: under Kyle Shannan and Sean McVay, he's in his late thirties.

762
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 8: It's time. It's time for him to go ahead and

763
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 8: put his own stamp on it. You can hear sort

764
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 8: of the quiet confidence in his ability as a play caller.

765
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 8: Matt Lafleur told the media later his older brother, you

766
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 8: go back and watch the film those two years where

767
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 8: he was the Jets offensive coordinator. So there's a lot

768
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 8: of stuff that a lot of guys respect that the

769
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 8: Jets put on film in terms of the scheme, the

770
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 8: play calling, did they have the personnel know And so

771
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 8: I think there's also got to be a big part

772
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 8: of him who wants to redeem himself coming off those

773
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 8: two years with the Jets and put on display flex

774
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 8: if you will, everything he's learned under Shanahan and McVeigh,

775
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 8: because arguably there's still the two best play callers in

776
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 8: the league.

777
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 7: Right, And I mean a good follow question for me

778
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 7: would be, then you know what things are you putting

779
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 7: in place that's going to help you as well? Yes,

780
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 7: you're the play caller, but you're also the head coach.

781
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 7: So those in game decisions, right, if you're locked in

782
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 7: on the offense sometimes and he may have the bandwidth

783
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 7: or not, I don't know, understand the situation of football.

784
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 7: And then also understanding what's going on the defense. Do

785
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 7: you have someone that's kind of helping you, that's in

786
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 7: your ear telling you what's going on. And we've worked

787
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 7: through these these situations as far as when we call timeouts,

788
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 7: when we have these discussions maybe on the defensive side,

789
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 7: but you're working with the quarterback maybe in moment, how

790
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 7: do you get tied back in what's going on that side, right,

791
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 7: because there's a lot of things that's going on, and

792
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 7: have you built out the trust with a Nick Rolis

793
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 7: or whoever else that's on that side, you have complete

794
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 7: autonomy or you have to kind of cueue me in

795
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 7: where my attention may be somewhere else.

796
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 8: It's a great observation, one of those rare times I

797
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 8: can offer a little insight from the sideline. Well, last

798
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 8: time we saw this dynamic was Cliff Kingsbury, obviously the

799
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 8: head coach and the play caller, and in his hip pocket,

800
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 8: especially in tight game situations into the quarter end of

801
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 8: the half, was Jeff Rogers, who was a savant at

802
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 8: game situation, that knowledge, and so he would always be

803
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 8: right there just flanking Cliff Kingsbury because yes, he's immersed

804
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 8: in his play sheet. Now wait a minute, I gotta

805
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 8: manage the game. Is this a good spot for a

806
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 8: time out? And Jeff Rodgers will be there and boom

807
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 8: they would confer. And it was sort of a two

808
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 8: man game in that regard.

809
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 5: Is that Nathaniel Hackett the OC. Now all of a sudden,

810
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 5: he's talking to the offense while your head coach is

811
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 5: doing head coach duties. Because the defense is on the

812
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 5: field in a critical late game situation. Speaking of the defense,

813
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: we discussed again what might it look like with Mike Lafleur,

814
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 5: now your head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

815
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: Hey, this is what we make our markin rap turn up,

816
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: don't make you play, It's gonna make him play.

817
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 6: Take a.

818
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: Gets play action if foods to the left for jump

819
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: looking down fields going and what a pick at the

820
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: thirty five yard line by Mac Wilson. Incredible play Wilson.

821
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: To read that.

822
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 5: God didn't hear enough of Mac Wilson last season, started

823
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 5: the first eight games, hurt in that Monday night win

824
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 5: against the Dallas Cowboys, and we did not see Mac

825
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 5: the rest of the season because of a rib injury.

826
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: And look a lot went wrong down the stretch. But

827
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 5: you know this, though, you lose a key piece of

828
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 5: your defense, quarterback of the defense, who's calling the defense,

829
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: getting everyone aligned, And there certainly was a trickle down

830
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: without Mac on the field.

831
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 7: It was a significant trickle down effect in impact because

832
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 7: Mac Wilson, I mean, he's one of my favorite guys.

833
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 7: I would think next to Buddha and jal and right,

834
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 7: who's a free agent this year, So I don't know

835
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 7: what's going to happen there with him. But when you

836
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 7: have to rely on a rookie and Cody Simon, who

837
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 7: I think is going to be a good player in

838
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 7: this league, he shined, he got better. They have some

839
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 7: very complicated schemes and run fits, you know, especially when

840
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 7: you saw how they use the safeties and Buddha Baker

841
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 7: maybe be in the middlefield and coming down and he

842
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 7: may have had the a gap. And sometimes I think

843
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 7: some of the younger guys are just playing a little

844
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 7: too fast and then you get gassed because you have

845
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 7: two guys in the same gap. And in the run scheme,

846
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 7: the physicality we saw mac Wilson bring, you know, when

847
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 7: he's covering seem three out of the backfield right, all

848
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 7: those things that are CMC, I should say, all those

849
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 7: things that he was doing early in the season and

850
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 7: what he's done in the past, you lose all that.

851
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 7: There's a I don't know, emotional void that typically happens,

852
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 7: and people can feel it and they know that who

853
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 7: can bring it, But he's not coming out there, and

854
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 7: so you just have to do the best you can do.

855
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 7: And I know that's nobody cares about that. But that's

856
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 7: just the reality of of certain guys bring that certain

857
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 7: type of energy and professionalism that is going to elevate

858
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 7: whoever else is on the field as far as making

859
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 7: them play faster and more consistent.

860
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: Butt's hear more from Mac. This is earlier in the

861
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: season when he was healthy and playing well on the

862
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 5: Big Red Rays, talking about what part of the defense

863
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: he takes his most pride in.

864
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: I take the most pride and just being physical and

865
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: just you know, being an asset to the defense and

866
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: whatever way that may look like. And you know, just

867
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: me being able to be a four down backer honestly

868
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Speaker 3: is just like being able to run sidelighte the sideline,

869
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: being able to cover, being able to get in passing

870
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: windows and get past deflections and things like that. I

871
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: feel like that's just that's that's all been a part

872
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: of my game, honestly, and just blessed to be able

873
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 3: to to be able to showcase that here and there's

874
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: no sibling, I feel like, and I'm only gonna get

875
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: better with.

876
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Speaker 5: Tom Mac flew in for the introductory press conference of

877
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 5: Micha Laflor. Mac posted moments after it became official that

878
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 5: Nick rolis was retained as defensive coordinates, with a picture

879
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: of him and Nick with the caption unfinished business. So

880
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 5: you got your team captain on board and all of

881
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 5: a sudden, everyone else maybe falls in life.

882
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Speaker 7: Yeah that's pretty cool. Just real quick, Paul, before you

883
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 7: jump in it. He's saying something that's really cool about

884
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 7: how the league has changed. He called himself a four

885
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 7: down linebacker, and I don't think he plays a ton

886
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 7: of teams, right, so I would call myself. But in

887
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 7: this day and age where everybody's going forward on fourth down,

888
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 7: he's now a four down backer. Used to be I'm

889
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 7: a three down backer. I don't come off on passing down,

890
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 7: which is third down. That's just a you know, just

891
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 7: a transition to the league. That is kind of cool

892
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 7: to hear somebody, you know, reference himself as as a

893
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 7: four down backer.

894
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 8: Although you two have a similar career arc because he

895
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 8: was a standout on all special teams this first couple

896
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 8: of years of New England and sort of morphed in

897
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 8: to a linebacker, you know, not unlike what you did.

898
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, no, that's it's cool to just hear him

899
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: say that. You know, I appreciate that.

900
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 8: Here's the thing, you go into a game and you

901
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 8: have your franchise quarterback, right, you have an elite quarterback.

902
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 8: There's just sort of a certain you go into a

903
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 8: game with certain confidence the rest of the team has, Hey,

904
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 8: we've got to do it at quarterback.

905
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: Now.

906
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 8: Flip that to the other side of the ball. When

907
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 8: the Cardinals lost Mac Wilson Senior, it's almost as though

908
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 8: they lost that dynamic on defense because not only was

909
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 8: he the quarterback of the defense, he was your resident badass.

910
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 8: He was going sideline to sideline. That performance he put

911
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 8: on in Week three against the forty nine ers yet

912
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 8: big hit you know, which he told us later, Yeah,

913
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 8: was his favorite single moment of the season on that

914
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 8: fourth down play call to CMC. And not only did

915
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 8: he have the athleticism to get there, but he had

916
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 8: the football IQ to know, Okay, he's coming out of

917
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 8: the backfield and this is Kyle Shanahan's scheme and he's

918
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 8: trying to do a little something different with CMC. Got there,

919
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 8: made the statement hit and then just everybody vibes off

920
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 8: that in the sideline just so sure. And then when

921
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 8: he was gone and you have a rookie and I'm

922
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 8: just any rookie in that position hasn't uphill challenge. You

923
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 8: just lost some of that confidence in that swag on defense,

924
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 8: and it was just very difficult for the Cardinals to

925
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 8: cover and correct me if I'm wrong. They did not

926
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 8: win a game that Mac Wilson Senior did not start.

927
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 8: Their last win was the last game he played at Dallas.

928
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 5: And Mac would appear to be a perfect Mike laflor player,

929
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 5: even though Mike is an offensive guy and Mac plays defense.

930
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: But going back to the one on one that Danny

931
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 5: did with La Floor, and she asked about defense, and

932
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: Mike responded, you know, I don't really care about a

933
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 5: particular scheme. I care about a style of play.

934
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 6: Right.

935
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 5: Danny asked what style is that? And Mike Lafloor answered,

936
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: relentless going after the ball. When you turn on the

937
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 5: tape and all the sound is off, what does it

938
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: look like?

939
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's and that's what defense is, right. I mean,

940
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 7: you're gonna have three four four three four two five

941
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 7: dime nickel.

942
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: We we do coverage.

943
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 7: We play man at the end of the day, when

944
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 7: you turn that film on, do you see a defensive

945
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 7: line coming off the ball? Do you see guys in

946
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 7: the back end, hunting cats up where guys are worried

947
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 7: about going over the middle, you know, all those things

948
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 7: flying to the ball. Do I have all eleven guys

949
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 7: at the football because I don't care how you draw

950
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 7: it up?

951
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 9: Right?

952
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 7: Do we have that mindset that you are gonna leave

953
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 7: here having failt us? Right, you've lost and you also

954
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 7: felt us you oh, I got to go get an

955
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 7: ice after this game. Right, That's the type of defense

956
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 7: people want to play on, and that's the type of

957
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 7: defense people don't want to play against. And so if

958
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 7: you have that mindset, and Mike Wilson, mac Wilson is

959
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 7: one of those galvanizing game changs that creates that when

960
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 7: you missed that, everybody.

961
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 4: Else suffers and your defense suffers because of it.

962
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 8: As soon as he left the defense, opposing offensive coordinators

963
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 8: targeted the guy playing that position, whether it was Cody Simon,

964
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 8: whether it was Owen Papo, whether it was Keem Davis Gaither.

965
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 8: They they made sure to test for sure the replacement

966
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 8: for mac Wilson Senior.

967
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: A healthy mac Wilson certainly can do wonders for this

968
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 5: defense again did not finish well twenty seventh and yards

969
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 5: per game allowed twenty ninth and points per game allowed.

970
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 5: But again the new head coach. It's a fresh, clean

971
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: slate for all parties involved, and now we just wait

972
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 5: to see what it's going to look like. Zoe. Always

973
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 5: good to see you. Come back soon. The door is

974
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 5: always open here.

975
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: I'll be bat special.

976
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Speaker 5: Thanks behind the scenes, Jim MoMA Hunter of Cody Fincher,

977
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Speaker 5: Lawrence Ellis for Zoe Hawk OUBC. I'm Praigrialou. This is

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