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Speaker 1: Here we go, Episode eighteen, Cam Jordan, Off the Edge

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Speaker 1: of the podcast. I appreciate y'all tuning in on this episode.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Saints coaching moves, there's a few

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Speaker 1: of them. We're gonna talk about Jason Kelcey and his retirement,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna talk about, you know, the Super

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Speaker 1: Wildcard weekend. And I mean, once you're in the dance,

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Speaker 1: anybody can get it, as you saw this past weekend.

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Speaker 1: Of course, then I'm bringing my guy, my dog, you know,

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Speaker 1: man of God, the hero, the leader, the linebacker, the

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Speaker 1: All Pro tomorrow Davis. So stick with me. Here we

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Speaker 1: go on Off the Edge with me, your host, Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Let's start this off. I mean I wake up this

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Speaker 1: morning and I sort of scroll through the Twitter feed,

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Speaker 1: you know, so just picking up news. I'm not sure why,

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Speaker 1: Like I guess, you know, my dad's age, they had newspapers.

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Speaker 1: I'm going through the Twitter feed, like, all right, what's

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Speaker 1: pertinent from meet you know, the Saints. That was going

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Speaker 1: on with AK, that's going on with DC Derek Carr,

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Speaker 1: or what's going on you know with DA Dennis Allen,

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Speaker 1: whatever whatever that is, you know, just quickly scrolling, and

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Speaker 1: I see that. We ended up letting go Pete Carmichael,

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Speaker 1: who's been a part of the Saints for the last

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Speaker 1: eighteen seasons, you know, fifteen as a OC for the

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. It's tough to see somebody go. I

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Speaker 1: know there was a lot of shade thrown Pete's way

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Speaker 1: over the last year or two about being more aggressive

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Speaker 1: with the play calls. But he was a mad scientist,

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Speaker 1: you know, when his plays worked. There was a reason

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Speaker 1: why him and Sean Payton made a lot of special

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Speaker 1: moments happen over the years. There was times where it

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Speaker 1: just seemed like everything was clicking. In the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, things haven't been clicking. Three years with no playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's time to change, and so let go

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Speaker 1: Pete Carmichael. Let go assistant offensive senior offensive offensive assistant

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Speaker 1: Bob Bicknill. And then one that I didn't see for

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Speaker 1: real coming was a wide receiver coach Cody Burns. I

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Speaker 1: was like, man like, I was like, I thought Cody

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Speaker 1: I thought he was doing something got a Mashishi heat.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that one coming, you know. And then

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Speaker 1: in the same situation there was you know, lateral movement.

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Speaker 1: You had a running back coach that's been here forever,

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Speaker 1: Joel Thomas go over to the New York Giants who

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Speaker 1: probably won't have se Kwan Barkley next year, where we'll

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Speaker 1: still have the most one of the most talented running

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Speaker 1: backs in the game. Ak. Yeah, So the things happen

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Speaker 1: this morning, and I'm still perplexed about two of those moves.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was like Joe, all right, good for

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Speaker 1: him that he's going, but you know you're fired. You

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Speaker 1: just went lateral, okay. And then of course, you know Cody,

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Speaker 1: I was like young receiver coach with young receivers with

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Speaker 1: a lot of potential. And you know, Rashishi he was

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Speaker 1: a pro bowler. I'll be it on special team side.

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Speaker 1: He was still you know, the need for speed, you know,

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Speaker 1: for she she So it just is what it is.

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Speaker 1: In this business. It's a game of winning, and you

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Speaker 1: know when you don't win, things have to shake, all right.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we're taking this on a Tuesday night,

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Speaker 1: and as of now, reports are that the Eagle center.

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Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey told his teammates after the loss that he

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Speaker 1: plans to retire. We'll see if he changes his mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know a Star Wars center like Jason Kelcey.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's somebody you probably can't let go.

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Speaker 1: If you see that super Bowl window, super Bowl window

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Speaker 1: so alive last year's Super Bowl. They lose this year,

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Speaker 1: you know, first round exit, but that's just it. That's

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Speaker 1: still the playoffs. There's still chances. As long as you're

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Speaker 1: not because he's a you know, twenty eleven draft pick,

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Speaker 1: Man's that's legendary to begin with, Ansime, you mentioned Mike Vick.

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Speaker 1: Salute man the game be sad to see you go,

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Speaker 1: This section, we're gonna talk about one big takeaway from

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Speaker 1: each playoff game. You know, let's just get into it

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Speaker 1: and talk about this first game, the Packers beating the

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Speaker 1: them to go forty eight thirty two, it really was

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Speaker 1: was a convincing win. Yeah, Jordan, if he's playing the

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Speaker 1: Chauncey Defense came to play. Offense, came to play Jared Goff,

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of hype around this game and

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Speaker 1: even changed somebody like like lateral in your position? You like, nah,

426
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: I see the greatest of all time, Lebron. So I'm

427
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: gonna outplay. I'm gonna outlay his longevity. That's crazy to

428
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: think about. Forty five years. Gonna put you in like

429
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: year sixteen, seventeen. I love that for you. I'm gonna

430
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: watch you. I'm gonna watch you know year fifteen.

431
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, come on out.

432
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: W I told you this revelation of mine I had

433
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: two years ago.

434
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: I was here to push you.

435
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: Hey, I love you. My body God knows, God know you.

436
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: My man's it's gonna take it's gonna take Wifey to

437
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: say a lot for me to come back after year

438
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: fifteen because I love I love football, and I'm willing to

439
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: give it by all fifteen is gonna be the mental

440
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: the mental hurdle that we'll talk about later. Let's just

441
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, not even just the long jetsy

442
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: been playing, but at the high level you've been playing.

443
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: Like you didn't even hit your first All Pro till

444
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: you turned thirty. You was at the New Orleans Saints.

445
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: You you know, you were from the Jets, where you know,

446
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: you would say it's a heavy market, you know, one

447
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: of those those marketing places that all you have to

448
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: do is be semi quasi, you know, explosive, stand out

449
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: on the field, and you're gonna get your accolade immediately,

450
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, to be I don't know, I still don't

451
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: know how you went why or how you went to

452
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: the Browns back to the Jets, but then you came

453
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: to New Orleans and you've played your best football. It

454
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 1: just is what it is. Five All pros gives you

455
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: direct access, and it's hard to make All Pro, especially

456
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: in the Saints, like it's a hard market to excel

457
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: it in terms of the eyes and terms of the accolades,

458
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: whatever comes, you have to earn it, and you've you've

459
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: done all of that. Like I said, so five pro

460
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: but like five all pros? How did you like, how

461
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: did you reflect on reaching this milestone, because there's I

462
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: think there's only like four or five Sames players that

463
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: ever reached five All pros.

464
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: In general, I think it goes back to twenty sixteen

465
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: me and a conversation, a conversation that I had with God.

466
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: I was ready to retire in twenty sixteen, my year

467
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: one year with the Browns. I feel like, you know,

468
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: playing with the Browns when they was the Browns that

469
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 2: I was on and to make anybody want to retire.

470
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: But man, I was ready to throw it in. I

471
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: didn't have I didn't have the mindset to change greatness

472
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: no more. My body was hurting and I went into

473
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: my pre clauset. Man I just said, God, I'm done,

474
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: I'm finished. But I knew he wasn't done with me yet.

475
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: So it was like I was throwing in the towel,

476
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: just like, if you don't want me to do more,

477
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: you wanna have to do it. I was like, God,

478
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 2: you got to rejuvenate my mind. You got to rejuven

479
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: in my body. And I literally prayed that, and it

480
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: was like I heard an audible of God just say like,

481
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: thank you for throwing in the town. I got it

482
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: from here, and don't forget that you threw in the town.

483
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: That's why I tell that story so often, because I can't.

484
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: I have to give credit to what it's due. And slowly,

485
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: but surely, man, I just started training different and I

486
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: found a way to be more efficient in my game. Now.

487
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: I've been always been doing the numbers, go back to

488
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: my second year, my early years with the Jets, I

489
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: was always doing one hundred tackles. I was always doing

490
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: three to four sacks. I was doing the numbers, but

491
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: my game was just sloppy. Plus I was with the

492
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 2: Jets twenty seventeen. After that moment, I come back, and

493
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: not only do I got the production, I got the

494
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: efficiency to match. So I'm not missing as many tackles.

495
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: I'm not getting beatn coverage. You know, I'm making my

496
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: plays in the backfield versus you know, three or four

497
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: yards down the line, down the field. Just cleaning my

498
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: game up a lot. And that was problem. Statistically, one

499
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: of my best seasons, but the same time I was

500
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: with the Jets and nobody saw it. Fast forward twenty eighteen.

501
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: I come to the Saints and we go to the

502
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: conference championship game. I'm doing the same thing, but everybody

503
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: sees it, and now it's welcome to is welcome to

504
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: the NFL per se?

505
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: I kind of to me, Welcome to the NFL. Welcome

506
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Twenty seventeen.

507
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because twenty seventeen was really like my rookie season

508
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: because after that humbling moment, there was a new that

509
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: was a new beast that was awake and that was retroduceable.

510
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

511
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so twenty seventeen twenty eighteen was kind of that,

512
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: you know, putting it on display. They might have thought

513
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen was a fluke, and I did it again

514
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, and then when it happened in twenty nineteen,

515
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: we didn't go as far as the team, but the

516
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: production was still there. And I think that's when the

517
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: Notarioty game and since then it just hasn't been no

518
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: drop off. I think they thought because it was thirty

519
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: that there was going to be drop off, but there wasn't.

520
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: But I think it's because I'm running on something different

521
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: and it's the Holy Spirit.

522
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: We're not going to just run through like that was

523
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: a time where you know, Man of God, I come

524
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: to the house and now he got the Man of

525
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: God headband on there. I said, that's how you know

526
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: it's official when everybody in the house body. When did

527
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: high breed come come about?

528
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: Man? Hybrid probably came in my training in twenty nineteen,

529
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: I believe, so twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, my goal was

530
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: just to be the best linebackers in the league. But

531
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, I believe it was just a lot of

532
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: linebackers that was in that conversation, and so it was

533
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner, I think Fred was on the scene. Then

534
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 2: twenty twenty you had guys like Shaq Leonard in that

535
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: conversation of David Dead or White started jumping into conversation.

536
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: So it was a lot of people. And if you see,

537
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: it's always this best linebacker conversation, who's the best linebacker?

538
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: And so for me it became him about differentiation and

539
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: what is What was differentiation for me was it's a

540
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: lot of hybrid players in the league, and a hybrid

541
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: is someone who can kind of be a twiner. Right,

542
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: you have a guy who can be a D lineman,

543
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: but he can be also outside linebacker. You have uh

544
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: a safety slash nickel or nickel slash corner. You know,

545
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: Uh that Simmons guy that got drafted, Uh that was

546
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: playing a Z I think he's a different team now.

547
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: He was a high Yeah he's never at the Giants

548
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: now yeah.

549
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And UH with the hybrid was like, I feel

550
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: like I can go into a game and play one

551
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: position and dominate on all three levels. Like I feel

552
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: like they can put me in the game and safety

553
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: and I'd be a great box safety. Like I know

554
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: all the coverages. I know how to come up and fit.

555
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: I can cover one on one on tight ends or

556
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: running back that get put out at number two every

557
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: now and then if it's a slide, I can I

558
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: can handle that. At the same time, I can go

559
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: and play the defensive line. I feel like I can

560
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: be on the edge all game, whish they did for

561
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: us one time we played the Rams. I just had

562
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: to sit out there on the edge and ain't gonna

563
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: talk about that game. But I can.

564
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: It's difficut on the edge. Now we gotta hold that

565
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: hold the edge.

566
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: I got respect for all positions. I'm not trying to

567
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: say that, but that's what I feel like when I'm

568
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: saying high Breed is like I can truly I'm not

569
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: like a twer. I can play a line back, I

570
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: can play defensive line and I can play.

571
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: D B for not a high brid high Breed like built.

572
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Different, Yes, sir different. It's like a transformer. I'm transforming

573
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: whatever you need.

574
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: Is there any game that this year that you you

575
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: saw as like the changing moving for our season? Like

576
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm clearly going to say, you know, the Week three

577
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: matchup versus the Packers, right, because at that time we

578
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: talked about it. I was like we could take advantage

579
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: of Jordan Love like this is he's really a rookie

580
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and you know that to me, we were up seventeen

581
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: oh and Lambeau was silent. Could hear me snap fingers,

582
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the field to the sidelines,

583
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: quiet as hell? And then we ended up losing eighteen

584
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: to seventeen. Is there a game that you look back like,

585
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: how do we lose? Like? How did we do this?

586
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: That was a tough game because we were looking to

587
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: put it all together, and you just think about like momentum.

588
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm a big basketball fan. I feel like this is

589
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: one of the best sports where you can see momentum change.

590
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: And man, the momentum in that game and the way

591
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: it suck the air out of my season early on.

592
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: It was like it took us a minute to grapple

593
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: after that because we had just kind of been being

594
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: played our best football yet and then it looked like

595
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: we had put it together for a half and we

596
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: were ready to come out the second half, and then

597
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: DC go down on the first drive. We started reeling

598
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: as a defense, and they come back and they put

599
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: some drives together. I mean, we had them shut down

600
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: the first half, and then all of a sudden they

601
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: just get life, and uh man, you just you weren't

602
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: expecting a game like that, to realize that you gave

603
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: this game up when when you had it in the back,

604
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: and you kind of not want to let one game

605
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: turn into two games, you know. But like when I

606
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: think about the momentum of that, I think about that

607
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: that kind of reminds me of like Colorado. Everybody followed

608
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: Colorado football, but they had kind of had like an

609
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: up and down season and then they played I think

610
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: was Stanford. Was this Stanford that they blew out in

611
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: the first half and then they came all the way

612
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: back and and gave that game up.

613
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: Might I think with Stafford, But they started off like

614
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: four to roh and then all of a sudden.

615
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: They started hot. But then you know they played.

616
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Uh usc before, but then they played.

617
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: Like come back, and I think that was the Stanford game.

618
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: So they won one more than they played Stanford. After

619
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: that game, they never recovered. It didn't seem like they

620
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: were covered after that. And so I feel like that

621
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: was kind of us in Green Bay. We got it

622
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: in parts, but we never really got back to that

623
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: stride until late in the season. But I did like

624
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: the way that we finished. If we could have found

625
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: that earlier in the year.

626
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: I could have swore we found that when we when

627
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: we trounced the Patriots. Now we beat him thirty five.

628
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I said, ah, I said, this is a Bill Belichick

629
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: led team like this, it don't matter, like you don't

630
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: do this to Bill Belichick minus the players, because you

631
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: know they got Matt juwide on over there, they got

632
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: the other air rusher. Then you know running back was

633
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: running when the game was all right. I was like,

634
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: we thirty five zero the Patriots. That doesn't happen. And

635
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: then but it was like, like we said, bro, like

636
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, the inconsistencies of it all, We really didn't

637
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: catch that consistent. All right, this is what we're gonna

638
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: do on offense, is going to do on defense until

639
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: the end. And I was like, well, that's where you

640
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: want to peak anyways, so all we need is a ticket.

641
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: And then that didn't happen our way. But what you're

642
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: you're a lot more even killed than I am. Like

643
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: you know me, bro, I'm amped up on on ten

644
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: for everything. And you be like, yeah, so this is

645
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: what we got to do during the week, and then

646
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: on then on game day you on you on like twelve,

647
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: you become highbrid you know what I'm saying. You go

648
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: in that thing and you what we got to do it.

649
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, you wasn't acting like this Monday through Saturday.

650
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: There is now I did on.

651
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: The work, man. I think we just the word was

652
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: just inconsistent.

653
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: Man.

654
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: We were just too inconsistent this year. And it was

655
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: it was very disappointing because we didn't achieve our goals

656
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: and we're living in the results of that because of inconsistency,

657
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: And for me, my process is I want to be

658
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: consistent during the week so that I can get the

659
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: same results on Sunday. And individually I felt like I

660
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: was able to do that, but it's in vain because

661
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: collectively we didn't achieve that. And like, when I'm in

662
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: that's what my reflective time looks like, it's could I

663
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: have done more on that collective piece? And that's how

664
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm approaching the off season to figure out if I can,

665
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: if I can achieve consistency for myself, how do I

666
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: how do I spread that? And I don't think I

667
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: did a good enough job.

668
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, when you come to that revelation, it

669
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: didn't start when you were like how do you? How

670
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: did you become so even killed? Like you've been able

671
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: to step back and look at the game as as

672
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: a whole. That started off from your jet days, like

673
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: the younger days when you had I'm just thinking about

674
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: it in your locker room. You had what Darrell rewis

675
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: back in the gap. You had like original Antonio Commarty,

676
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: like stone cold Antonio Commarti, like Crow Reavers Island.

677
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had great I had great vets Man. It

678
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: was Reeves, was Crow. I had Dave Harris who did

679
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: ten years, Bart Scott who's see O TV now, Calvin Pace,

680
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: the Brickershaw Ferguson on the offensive side, So I wasn't

681
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: just dealing with defensive guys. The Brickershaw Ferguson on the offense,

682
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: Nick Mango, Nick Folk, who's still kicking now.

683
00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Man.

684
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: I just had a full of veterans that you can

685
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: just go and pull information from. I played with DeMont

686
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: and Lauren Landry. Uh man. I had some guys man

687
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 2: that he was just learned so much from guys who

688
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: had had a ton of success. A Antonio Holmes was

689
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: on that team. Mhm uh that you could just pull

690
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: information from. You can learn a lot of things of

691
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: what to do, You can learn a lot of things

692
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: and what not to do. But everybody was on my

693
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: team was at seven eight years, and I'm like, dang,

694
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: they ain't doing it like they passed the threshold. You know.

695
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: It was that fear of man, I just trying to

696
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: make it three three and three games. Let me just

697
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: get my my pension, you know. But I was able

698
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: to pull from them guys just from recovery from approach,

699
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: you know, just how to how to stay in the game.

700
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: And I still rely on a lot of those baseline principles,

701
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: but I put my own in. I put my own

702
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: work in, you know, I found my own lane. I

703
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: found what works for me, and I do a lot

704
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: of mental training and I think that's what allows me

705
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: to be more reflective. So all throughout the season, I'm

706
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: meeting with our team with our team site, which I

707
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: just called my mental performance coach, and we were just

708
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: talking about the game. We would talk about week to

709
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: weeks how to find that consistency and how I was

710
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: finding that consistency was in practice, and I just felt

711
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: like if I if my routine was working, don't change it.

712
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: If it was something that wasn't working, changing and uh,

713
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: that's kind of the mode I stayed in. And that's

714
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: why you see me even keill. And then when it's

715
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: game time, you know, it's all about bringing the warrior

716
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: out like, ain't no flinch, ain't no fear. Let's go,

717
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: and now it's time to bring everything that you to

718
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: meditate it on out for the public. Ain't no time

719
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: to think about it. It's time to go. And that's

720
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: what you saw game day.

721
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I come to bring hands

722
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: every day. That's practice, that's breakfast, that's lunch, that's dinner.

723
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: I lived my life so absolutely it's a walk through it.

724
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm looking for smoke, looking for smoke. Already, I go

725
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: home looking for smoke. I come back, look for smoke.

726
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn. I'm gonna learn how to be even killed.

727
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: Won't be like you when I grow up. I'm gonna

728
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: learn how tomna learn how to chill out.

729
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: I tell you all the time, Bro, I asked you

730
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: that all the time, Like, how does it feel to

731
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 2: wake up and be camp Jordan?

732
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: Well, I know what I mean. Now that I got

733
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: a son who's just like me, I can see how

734
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: can be taxing? See take wake up and wake up

735
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: earlier than I do. Just okay, yes, sir, got your

736
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: swag all over here? Oh man, Bro, did you think

737
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: about our locker room this year? Just safe defense alone?

738
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: We had what three or four veta over thirty you

739
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: know our team had what five or six? Was with me?

740
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: You tie Derek Carr what thirty two? Jimmy Graham thirty five,

741
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: thirty six that I feel like they had to help.

742
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: But just mixing in the season vets with just that

743
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: that young talent like that had to have helped the

744
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: team for sure. Let's just talk about our defensive side,

745
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: like you talk about it on every level. There's there's

746
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: your again, you go to the safeties, there's Tyrant Marsham

747
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: probably just what eight, he's still young. But there's you

748
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: on linebackers, me at D line. So that open line

749
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: of communication, bro it was has always been there, especially

750
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: during the games or practice whatever it was. I feel

751
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: like that's what I'm I'm looking harping on. I'm like,

752
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: we have open line of communication. How like, how do

753
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: we take that next step? But in terms of just

754
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 1: talking to younger guys, do you find that it's hard

755
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: to relate to them? Do like when you talk about

756
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: year one, year two type players?

757
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think, man, it is. The great piece

758
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: is like when you have it at all levels, you

759
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: got Pro Bowl at all levels. So when I when

760
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: I look at you on the defensive line, like I know,

761
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't have to go talk to all the guys

762
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: on D line. I can take a missione to you

763
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: and it's gonna go to all the guys. The same

764
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: thing with Tying, I don't have to talk to the DBS.

765
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: I'll just go to him and he will pass it on,

766
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: whether it's mess for practice, mess for the game, and

767
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 2: so having that is great. I do think that there's

768
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: a communication gap that just exists in society because of

769
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: the way that we learned how to communicate. I'm a

770
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: I guess me and you kind of the same boat.

771
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: We're kind of like a middle generation, and so we

772
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: got pieces of the old school, and we're dealing with

773
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: people who are all the way digitals. Like one of

774
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 2: the guys in the locker room wasn't born when nine

775
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: eleven happened, like.

776
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Some of the guy was one of the guys, some

777
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: of the guys.

778
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: Some of the guys, But we have a conversation about it,

779
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: Like he didn't even know what date it was. No,

780
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: like it's called not eleven.

781
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: He was like not they have no Yeah, I ever.

782
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: Put nobody on the spot. But he was like, I said,

783
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: do you know when not Living happened? He's like, yeah,

784
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: it was like November right. No no, no, no, no, no,

785
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: you're trying to fix it. But it was a real

786
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: conversation and everybody was like yo, wow, And it was

787
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 2: one of those moments like, man, we are we're kind

788
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: of like in a in a.

789
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: Time war and yeah, but I think.

790
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: It's still the onus of the responsibility of figuring out

791
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: that that communication. One of the things that one of

792
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: my mentors was helping me learn, he said, what language

793
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: was God talking to Adam and even in the garden.

794
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, and that everybody has a

795
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: language because they're human. And though it may be a

796
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: digital language, though it may be uh, you know, more choppy,

797
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: more emojis, right, you know what means that you communicate through,

798
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: it's still communication. And to figure out that language is

799
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: the responsibility of a leader to figure out and you

800
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: just learn how to reach guys. And that's what I

801
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: was in my reflective time. I'm looking and I'm like,

802
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't think I did a good enough job, you know.

803
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: And I think it's easier to be dismissive and just

804
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: be like, oh, they're a young generation, they'll figure it

805
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: out or they.

806
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Got to figure it out now, you know.

807
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: But I think it's it's this game has always been

808
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 2: the older guys teach the younger guys what is supposed

809
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: to look like.

810
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: And I think it was so much easier to do

811
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: that when we were younger because you had to be

812
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms. And now it's a digital age

813
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: where everybody has iPads, you know, Microsoft tablets and can

814
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: watch film, do everything else isolated. And I think that

815
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: isolation is also causing a divide as well.

816
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: I agree that's that's one of the things is socially

817
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: we communicate different, right, Like how we grew up. You

818
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: go to the playground, you go to the park, you compete,

819
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: you go outside. It's a it's a it's a it's

820
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: an unnecessary Rougherens football game going on, throw it up

821
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: and running. You don't get it how you live Like

822
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: what you see the kids, our kids attempting to do

823
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: when they play football after the game, right, but they

824
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: don't do that just other than that event. They're not

825
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: just outside other after that, they're going to organize sports,

826
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: Like it was so much play that was unorganized.

827
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: There ain't no neighborhood football no more. Like i'm.

828
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: A know, ain't no just pick up basketball game going

829
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: on them down on the corner at the park. You know,

830
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: like everything is organized right, like you go to you

831
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: go to a lifetime gym. Now they got they don't

832
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: move to basketball. Course, they got pickball games going on,

833
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: and pick aball has a system. It's a system to

834
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: get in the game. Have you ever been to a

835
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: pickball game? No, a pickup pick a ball game. You

836
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 2: don't just go and be like I got next.

837
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: You gotta go.

838
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: You gotta put your racket in a certain spot. That's

839
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 2: how they know. And then they have like pro courts,

840
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: and then they have like the amateur courts, and it's like,

841
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: it's a system, bro. Like, you can't just show up

842
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: at pickleball and just be like I got nixed, like

843
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: basketball courts, it's all. They've moved the basketball courts out.

844
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: Pickball is what's he in and so like, But this

845
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: is this is our society now, right, It's it's much

846
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: more digital, organized structure versus just random and so like.

847
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: What that does is I don't even know how to

848
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: communicate with you unless it's under a certain format, right,

849
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: I only know how to meet you on this app.

850
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: I only know how to meet you in a space

851
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: that's organized, like a team meeting is where I'm gonna

852
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: see you. And but then no team meeting going on

853
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: while we're still at the building. That's that's a that's

854
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: a mentality, that's a mindset, right Whereas what four years ago,

855
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: five years ago, meetings and meetings been over for four hours,

856
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: everybody still in the locker room, some people watching, some

857
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: people Nintendo, some people shooting basketball. But we all just

858
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: building that chemistry. So it's just different. And so it's like, Okay, well,

859
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: how do you reach this generation that's under kind of

860
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: a different mindset when it comes to camaraderie. You still

861
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: have to find a way to meet him. And I

862
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: think that's that is a struggle. I haven't haven't found

863
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: that yet, but it gotta be.

864
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: Some absolutely bro. Like you know, I had two rookie

865
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: d linemen uh this year and one you know, one

866
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: loves the FaceTime. You know, mydther Ze. Hey, hey bro,

867
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: I told him when he first got team and said, hey,

868
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: if you need me FaceTime, if you need like, don't

869
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: do dumb stuff. If you need me in the middle

870
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: of night, you can call me. I'll come get you.

871
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out whatever needs to happen. He just hey, Bro,

872
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: I just want to say, man, I appreciate you, bro,

873
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: And like, I have never had a rookie to call

874
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: me in the middle of night just to just to

875
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: want to talk ball. He's the first one I love.

876
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: I love Brian. Yeah, I got you know, I got

877
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: Isaiah Foski and Foscar is. You know, he's a cerebral

878
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: notre dame guy stuck in his head. You know, I gotta,

879
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: I gotta, Like it's like pulling blood. But like you

880
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: have to figure out who, like you have to figure

881
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: out their communication, like Breeze super easy. You know, like

882
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: he wants to be he wants to be a great

883
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: football player. You know he's absorbing anything. Fosk not saying

884
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: that he doesn't. He's just like you have to go

885
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: to him, you know, like, hey man, come on, this

886
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: is what we're doing. And he'll hop in the car

887
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: immediately for the but them first, like four weeks, I

888
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: was trying to figure him out. I said, hey man,

889
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: like I got it, Like I don't. I'm not getting

890
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: nothing from him, like, hey man, what you see on

891
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: this film? Yeah? But if I text him about something,

892
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: I get a paragraph. I'm like this don't make okay, Okay,

893
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll see what I gotta do here, Like you just

894
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: got It's weird bro to to think that I get

895
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: digital age bro like this, you know, watch film, see

896
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: things differently, talk to players like. It's just trying to

897
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: figure it out. I'm like, oh man, it's such a

898
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: huge gap. But at the end of today, at least

899
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: in terms of defensive line, there's always been different cats

900
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: on the D line. You know, you have one that's outgoing,

901
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: one that's not one this So this is just a

902
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: different way to look at it. And how do I

903
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: reach my guy? Well, if he likes to eat, then

904
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: I guess we're eating. And if he likes, you know,

905
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: if he likes if he likes to watch film, then

906
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: that's how we watch film. Like it's it's time consuming,

907
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: that's an effort.

908
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: It's a lot more attactical. And I think you just

909
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: helped me with something that Communication now is a lot

910
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: more individualized because society is much more custom Whereas everybody

911
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: had before had to conform to society, now society conforms

912
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: to the consumer. Right. Think about all the algorithms that

913
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: present themselves. It knows how to present itself to you,

914
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: the shopper, versus the customer having to go to the store.

915
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: Like Black Friday, you got it, You got it if

916
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: you could get there early enough and.

917
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: Get it in everybody there five everybody had to conform

918
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 3: to the marketplace, not a marketplace. Marketplace conforms to the consumer.

919
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: And so I think that's the same way when you

920
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: think about like being.

921
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: A being a teammate, right, the teammates used to all

922
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: the teammates conformed to whatever the team was on. Whatever

923
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: you have a team, you gotta be able to conform

924
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: to all the individuals, right, So you have to make

925
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: sure you still hold onto your principles and stuff that

926
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: you're not gonna sway on the course. So it's not

927
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: just saying like you you just kind of rolling, yeah,

928
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: but I think you have to be willing to go

929
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: and meet individuals where they're at, and you gotta that's

930
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: just what society is, right if you just think about, like,

931
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: you know, look at all the guys who come in.

932
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: They played in college and the college didn't conform to

933
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: them what they do, Hey, transporport them.

934
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm going transport them.

935
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: And they talented enough, they're gonna they're gonna make it in.

936
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: It ain't got or yeah for sure.

937
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: And uh that's not the case for everybody, but for

938
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: a lot of them. And so that everybody's just used

939
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: to everything being catered to them, and so like I

940
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: can see how you're dealing with different lanes of communication

941
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: and something that's gonna benefit some is not. And I

942
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: think just being able to communicate a message to them

943
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: that this is what the league is about, this is

944
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: what it stands on. I'm conforming to you because I

945
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: want to give you the principals that's gonna get help

946
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: me be successful. I'm not conforming to you to think

947
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: that it's your way because it's game.

948
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: It's I'm not acquiescing. I'm not saying hey, I'm doing

949
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: your way. No, I'm coming to you so you could

950
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: take this information better, this how this is how we're

951
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: moving on. You might just help me a little bit.

952
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm acquiescing at the times. I'm like, bro,

953
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: Like when I was a rookie old event would be like, hey,

954
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: this is how it's getting done. You'd be like all

955
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: right now, like you know, we're talking to them like

956
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: hey man, this was this was what is the tradition,

957
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: this is why we're doing it. And I'm having to

958
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: explain myself more, you know, like you know, get home,

959
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: be trying to tell wife you talk, I'm talking out baby,

960
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: like I'm tied that lead, that leadership role, like it

961
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: takes it takes something about you. But no, you knows

962
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: as much as you just helped me there. You know,

963
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: whatever it was, or you've been, You've been an outstanding

964
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: teammate yourself, you know, uh, a great leader for the

965
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: linebacker corps. You talk about the pregame speeches even in

966
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: locker room when it's time. You know, uh, you were born.

967
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: You were born for this role as as a man

968
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: of God, and that goes probably hand in hand with

969
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: being a leader of faith as well, just in terms

970
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: of you know, uh p ao as well as your

971
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: uh not not even your ministry work, but your devoted

972
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: dream dreamers and the you know, the I almost called

973
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: a flag, the seven h seventeen that you got, or

974
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: the way you stacked everything up, but just balancing the

975
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: demands of football and your faith. How does the how

976
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: do you ultimately want to be remembered?

977
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh man, I want to be I want to be

978
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: remembered as a man who tried to as best he

979
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: could live for something that was greater than himself. Like

980
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: my legacy has little to do with me than me

981
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: trying to be a representation of God. It's about how

982
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: my wife remembers me and is able to tell my story.

983
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen Hamilton, bro, Hamilton is the

984
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 2: greatest play ever. Like I used to be online king,

985
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 2: I graduated. Hamilton is the best. But it's a little

986
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: it's a little playing there, a little playing on words

987
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: in there that I'm saying, you know, how my wife

988
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: is able to remember me, how she's able to tell

989
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: my story, How my kids the lessons that they get

990
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: from me, and everything after that is a secondary really,

991
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 2: you know, if I could be a good enough representation

992
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: of God that my kids get it and they want

993
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: to reflect God and they own lives. Man, it's worth it.

994
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: It's worth it all. It's life will live.

995
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, you used to talk to you talked about

996
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: Hamilton a few times this year. You go see the person, right.

997
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went with New York. My daughter, actually my

998
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: my ten year old daughter, oldest, she was on it,

999
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: and she she's musically inclined and musically gifted. She memorized

1000
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: the whole I mean, if you listen to these songs,

1001
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: they like little rap songs, and they got so many words.

1002
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: But she memorized the soundtrack front to back, like you

1003
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: start playing out any part, pick any song, she gonna

1004
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: start singing it.

1005
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: That's her jam.

1006
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: And so we had to go see it. So we

1007
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: went to New York. Not to mention my kids, was like,

1008
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: we're back at home and that's where we were born.

1009
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: My oldest too, and uh, we took them to see the play.

1010
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: When saw Hamilton, win saw Lion King, and I was

1011
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: just blown away. I had always heard of Hamilton, but

1012
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: I never went saw it. But definitely something that's it's

1013
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: as many people talk about Hamilton, it's still underrated, that's

1014
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 2: how good it is.

1015
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: Hmm. Yeah, I feel like I've seen not on one

1016
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: of the apps, so it was like a Hamilton live

1017
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: music whatever, and I was like, nah, do you see

1018
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: I feel like yeah, like I said, one of the

1019
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: maps had it, and I was just like, I just

1020
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: feel like it's one of the things you have to

1021
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: see in person. Like if I watch, you know.

1022
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: Don't don't somebody your statue.

1023
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: Definitely, man, you know, my sisters may only last five

1024
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: to ten.

1025
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: Wat yourself watching on the app and then try to

1026
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: go see the person. Yeah, definitely, man, definitely say you

1027
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: get a chance to go see the person.

1028
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: They just do it a full disservice. I moved so

1029
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: fast being.

1030
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: In America and not having the chief Burder not seeing.

1031
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: Him is okay, big, big standard. Okay. I'm like I said,

1032
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: next time in New York, I'm gonna look up a lifetime.

1033
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: Is it still going? It's probably still going, But I'm

1034
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate you tapping in, Brom. I'm gonna get you

1035
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: out of here because I know it's getting rather late,

1036
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: and with you know, all seventy five kids yours, kidd,

1037
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I appreciate WD for tapping in with me.

1038
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, my guys gonna be profound at every level.

1039
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean all in the field and off the field.

1040
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna leave like I can be a better person.

1041
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: But I also want to transition to you know, the

1042
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: all Pro selections came out, and I've got discrepancies, so

1043
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: I'd rather just create my own liss. You know. Maybe

1044
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: maybe it's because I really don't agree with this edge

1045
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: rusher situation, which they always gonna leave on. Like, Bro,

1046
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: there should be outside linebackers or edge rushers and then

1047
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: defensive ends, you know, like defensive ends forwards. Like so

1048
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say edge rusher. You're gonna throw your Miles Garretts,

1049
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,479
Speaker 1: your t J. Watts, you know, defensive end, i' musa

1050
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: say Max Crosby, you know, and I might even you know,

1051
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: throw a ringer in the way class Campbell was playing

1052
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: this year towards the end of the year like that

1053
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: would that would probably give him a second team All

1054
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Pro as a defensive end, but again that's not what

1055
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: they do. So interior lineman, of course, I think, you know, big,

1056
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: big Dexter Lawrence is a monstrosity that needs respect. Now

1057
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: I think he got like second team All Pro, but noah,

1058
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: in terms of interior complete rusher and passer him. Then

1059
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: I'd also throw in, you know, you can't not talk

1060
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: about Chris Jones what he was doing. And Aaron Donald

1061
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: is a force to be reckoned with at every place.

1062
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: So then it's it's anonymous, you know. So maybe I'll

1063
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: switch up that order. I go Dexter Lawrence for sure,

1064
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Speaker 1: and I'll may give Chris Jones, and then I put

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald right after. Uh lead us to linebackers. So

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Speaker 1: if I had to go, I guess I say Dexter Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones, boom, then linebackers of course, you know, I know,

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Speaker 1: there's so many great people out there, but double D

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Speaker 1: is in the category of his own. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: had six and a half sacks as a linebacker, blitzing linebacker,

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Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call linebacker. Don't put a running back

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Speaker 1: on him because he's going through as well as all

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Speaker 1: the tackles in the world. And then, of course, you

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Speaker 1: know I agree with I like Fred Warner. I think

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Speaker 1: man bar none. He's elite at every level. But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna throw in the middle linebacker from the Giants, which

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Speaker 1: I feel like this isn't get enough love. Now. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how to say his last name, but Bobby,

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Speaker 1: oh Carrie. I hope I didn't butcher that. But we

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00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: played him and it tuned me to his game. I

1081
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Speaker 1: wasn't aware, but I'm aware of now, and I like

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00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: the way he played. Then, of course, you talk about

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Speaker 1: your corners and the kid from Dallas, Darren bland Mento

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Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys elite. But I'm gonna throw in Pausing

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Speaker 1: a debo. For some reason, nobody's talking about the type

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Speaker 1: of year that he had. My man was bawling, you know,

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Speaker 1: four deceptions, going crazy, lowest percentage of completions like top

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Speaker 1: three ish, Top four ish. There was no corner doing

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Speaker 1: he was doing. You know, there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys who might have had higher interceptions, but now of

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Speaker 1: them completion rates will higher too. Paulson Adebo deserved an

1092
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Speaker 1: All Pro nod this year, a probo nod or something nod.

1093
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Speaker 1: Are you going to give it to a Jayalen Ramsey

1094
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Speaker 1: or you know, Sauce Gardener because nobody's targeting them because

1095
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: they know better. But when they did a Paulstling, he

1096
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Speaker 1: earned each and every one of them, which leads me

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Speaker 1: to a slot quarter Like I don't get how you

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Speaker 1: can have corners in the slot corner all pro, but

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00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: you have edge rushers just period not defensive ends and

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Speaker 1: then out you know, outside linebacker edge rusher types. But

1101
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Speaker 1: you say, a slot corner, how you can leave that there?

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's McDuffie. That works. And then safeties of course,

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Speaker 1: you know Kyle Hamilton out of Baltimore, you know, coming

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Speaker 1: from another Dames Prizing pick. For me, I'm clearly not

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00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: watching enough Baltimore defense film because in my mind, where

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Speaker 1: you think about a safety of free safety, I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: Marcus Williams out of Baltimore and then you know Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: The safety they had Antoine Winfield Junior was him this year.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. He was balling at our extremely high level.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't never really left the tape. He deserved that one.

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna be my list for you know what

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Speaker 1: I think should be all pros. I appreciate y'all tuning

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