1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. This is officially 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: not gonna be a Size Him up year. The measuring 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: tape can go back in the drawer to be broken 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: out next year for many more Size of mondays, but 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: this is not one of them. Rough to seventeen loss 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: to the Cincinnati Bengals in the wild card playoff round 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: really just another bitter pill to swallow it. Honestly, it 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: reminded me a lot of the Bill's loss in a way, 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: the playoff loss up in Buffalo a couple of years ago, 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: where like this flukey play happens and it just changes 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: the whole course of the game, and uh yeah, leaves 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: you with a lot of what ifs. What if Lamar 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Jackson played, What if Teller Honey hadn't fumbled? A lot 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: of what ifs now going into the off season. Yeah, 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: I think that obviously, when you think about this game, 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the lasting image is going to be that yard phone 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: boll recovery return. And like, if you're drawing up like 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: a disaster scenario for a play, you think that a 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: QB sneak is like about as safe as it it's 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: in terms of like, okay, even if you fumble it. 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be in a pile and it's at 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: the two yard line or you know, like like this 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: isn't throwing like a five yard out in the corner, 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: jumps it and takes it, cruises a hundred yards. This 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: is a quarter quarterback sneak, you know what I mean? 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, And and so it's just like if 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: we I know, there's lots of criticism amongst some fans 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: about the play call and John Harbi statch the game. 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: You know, Snoop's gotta go low on that. Snoop said, 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: basically they were packed in there, so he thought he 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: could go high and he wasn't that far off from 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: the goal line. But I mean the guy come up 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: and made an ice play, Like the linebacker came up 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: and made an ice play. Um, And so it was 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: it was not it was a disaster situation. I mean 36 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: it was a disaster situation. Yeah, that was That was 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the shocker, just like this can't be happening situation. And 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: and I think I think what really is difficult about 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: it is a couple of things. One at least for me, 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: like this game, I thought it was gonna be really 41 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: difficult for the Ravens to go on a run and 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. I've been saying that for a 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: while now that I felt like with the team as 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: it was constructed, with Lamar being hurt, I thought it 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: was gonna be tough for this team to win three 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: games on the road. Yeah, I just thought it was 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: gonna be difficult. But to me, if you beat the 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Bengals and you get an epic win on the road 49 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: in their house with all the trash they were talking like, 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: that would have really felt like Okay, even if you 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: lose the Chiefs next week, I would have felt really 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: good about the season, at least in my mind. Now, Look, 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: we could have been having a conversation a week later 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: said I would have liked it one more win. You 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: always canna say that, But that felt like the Super 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: Bowl deal to me. I don't think players really felt 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: that way, but like I feel that way, and I 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: think that a number of fans felt that way too. 59 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Um that like this was I just want to win 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: this one. I want to win this one. And so 61 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: I think that like and the Ravens had the game plan, 62 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: they outplayed the Bengals I think for the majority of 63 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: the game and basically, like it comes down to a 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: couple of key plays and one of them being a 65 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: fourteen points swing a ninety eight year phone recovery touchdown. 66 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: That's just like that is the recipe for disaster. That 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: is disaster. Well, yeah, I mean that's kind of the 68 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: troublesome thing is like we've talked endlessly about the formula, 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: the Ravens formula for winning games, and that was a 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: part that was a part of the formula, right, They 71 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: for the most part executed the formula and and it 72 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: would have worked. It was good enough to beat them, right, 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Like the defense didn't give up big plays. They gotta 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: turn over. They got one, right, big big turn over though, 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: big turno. They ran the ball well right, and what else, Well, 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: they turned the ball over twice. But they also got 77 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: like you know, one of the things that they hit 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: some plays in the passing game. Yeah, and like some 79 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: guys stepped up, like DeMarcus Robinson has a great double 80 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: move for a touchdown. Josh Oliver, you know, has the stumbling, 81 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: bumbling catch on the first past the game. Well also 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: the snap over Stoop's head and then Josh Oliver and 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: he's shaking off tacklers and running down the field. It's 84 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: like you have basically you have some guys kind of 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: step up, which I'd like, like see the occasion, yes, ye, 86 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: de Marcus Stad and Josh Oliver did. And but the 87 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: thing that really killed you is once again, struggles in 88 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the red zone. It was the problem the whole year, 89 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: and it ended up biting him in a huge way. 90 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: Obviously with the fumble return for a touchdown obviously, but 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: then they also settled for a short field goal and 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: then on the final drive of the game they got 93 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: in the red zone to the seventeen and we're in, 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: had the throw at situation and couldn't get done, holding 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: penalty backs up, couldn't get it done. Uh. And so 96 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, the formula was fine, 97 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: but the same problems that have haunted the Ravens all 98 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: year also haunted him in this game. You know, the 99 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: red zone and turning the ball over and stuff like 100 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: that totally. And and then at the end, like you 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: have this kind of hail mare type play and then 102 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: it's deflection and then it's just right right off of 103 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Prochet's fingertips. He had a great, great hand on the ball, 104 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: but like they you know, has a shot. You know, 105 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: it's like it has a shot to make like this unbelievable. 106 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: It just it just put It was like the the 107 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: cherry on top, you know, um in a negative way. 108 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: So oh yeah. I mean when they when they went 109 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: back for that play, you know, you're thinking, all right, 110 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: that it's a very low percentage here and he's script 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: run all over the place and just heaving it. And 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh my god, it wasn't that lower percentage. 113 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: It could have happened. I know, it would have been 114 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: an over Basically when you see the deflection, when you 115 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: see like a hail Mary type play and then all 116 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: of sudden it in the air on the deflection, you're like, 117 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, there's yeah. And I swear the Ravens had 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: I really think. I was talking about this today. So 119 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: the Ravens came in, cleaned out the locker room, players 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: left for the offseason, had a team meeting and all 121 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: that stuff, and I was saying, this was it's your 122 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: cliff or cliff Ton. I was saying, I swear, the 123 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Ravens have to be the unluckiest team in the league. 124 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's not the injuries, just bad injury 125 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: luck that had two years better this year, really bad 126 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: last year. Then like, what's the chances that Snoop goes 127 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: up high, fumbles it and the ball lands directly in 128 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: the guy's hands. It doesn't hit the ground, It lands 129 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: directly in the dude's hands. Right then the tip right 130 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: off approches fingertips, Like I just felt like every like 131 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: bad break that kind of could go. You know. They 132 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: had another fumble on a late punt return that bounced 133 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: like barely out of bounds. Uh. It was just like, 134 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel like, you know what 135 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: it was this and I think this is what Cliff 136 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: or somebody said, we used it all up in miracle, 137 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: just drained the luck meter. You were luck dead locked out. Yeah, yeah, 138 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: there's some there's some truth to that. Um, I just 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that, Like as I was saying, 140 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: like what it's just so like frustrating about this game. 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: It's just like you just feel like you had it, 142 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: Like you like this this is a game that of 143 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: people give you no chance to win. All of a sudden, 144 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: you're up at halftime. The defense basically did what you 145 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: wanted him to do. Joe Burrow, it sacked four times 146 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: and he ends up only throwing for two yards. So like, 147 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: if you go into the game and you know that 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: burrows not he's thrown for two n nobody had a 149 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: catch up twenty yards or more on their team, and 150 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: you get him and you get to him four times, 151 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, got a turnover. Now we're talking. Now 152 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: we're talking. That's dubs. And the defense, like, the defense 153 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: really felt like coming into this game that like put 154 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: it on our back and we can basically like we 155 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: feel like we can be like the workhorse. We can 156 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: be the they can be that good. Basically, yes we can. 157 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: We can be the unit that carries this group in 158 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: the postseason even against its dynamic offense like they have. 159 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: And I honestly, like I just felt like the defense 160 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: for the most part was you know, over the second 161 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: half of the season since Roquan, I mean, they're the 162 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: second best in the league in terms of points allowed, 163 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: like and they just kept getting better. And I would 164 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: have liked to have seen how good this defense could 165 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: have gotten, you know what I mean, Like I just 166 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: would have liked to seen it play out and see 167 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: how far they could have read it because it could 168 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: have I honestly feel like it could have been very special. Now, 169 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: the Chiefs would have been hard, but we thought the 170 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: Bengals are pretty hard challenged to They played him pretty 171 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: darn well, right. The Bengals have way better receivers in 172 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs too, you know, And so like I just 173 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I you know, that's just one of them what efs. 174 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: You know, Like how good could this defense have been 175 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: if it had just gotten that opportunity, you know, and 176 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: it didn't even get like the opportunity to close out 177 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: the game like it could have, you know, like had 178 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: they gone up seven on the snoop, you know, instead 179 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: of the fumble at the one they scored touchdown, they're 180 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: gone up seven halfway through the fourth quarter. Like then 181 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: what I would have liked to have seen the defense 182 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: try to close that game out, you know what I mean, 183 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: and give them an opportunity to say, yep, we're that defense. 184 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Well that that's the thing about. Like after after that 185 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: that play, then the offense gave the ball back and 186 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: you're just like all right, like this is it's done. 187 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: But then the defense just kept three and they just 188 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: kept giving the offense opportunities there and you're like, so 189 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: you kind of I mean, you didn't totally see it, 190 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: but because the game situation was kept, they kept a minute, 191 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: and they kept giving the offense an opportunity to at 192 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: least go down there and try to score points, and 193 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: they got to the twenty yard line and then you're 194 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: basically you know, you're taking shot at the end zone there. Yeah, 195 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: it's just I think I think that this season like 196 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: is if you do it kind of sum up like 197 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: in a sentence, it's just like a what if on 198 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: so many levels, Like, well, what what if that ball 199 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: doesn't pop out and go straight to Sam Hubbard and 200 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: he runs it back for a touchdown? Like what if 201 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: you get in there? What if Lamar plays? What if? 202 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: All this stuff Like there's all these different what ifs, 203 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: And I just feel like that's kind of like the 204 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: way that you leave this season. That's how you That's 205 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: how I think a lot of Ravens fans feel at 206 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: the end of the season. I mean, one other, one 207 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: other one, just to go down full lean into the 208 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: what IF's here because this just makes everybody feel better. Right. Uh, 209 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, I really wanted to see that the J. K. 210 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: Davis Carey game. You know, what if what? And I felt. 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: I think he felt that way at the end of 212 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: the game, you know, And I think and now I 213 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: can say confidently that he felt that definitely felt that 214 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: way at the end of the game. Um. You know, 215 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: now I will say, like Gus was running the ball 216 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: well too, right, but like I thought that that j 217 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: K clearly went into the game saying, you know, I 218 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: wanted on my shoulders and was playing like it, you know, 219 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: like he was playing like he was ready for the occasion. 220 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: That touchdown was pure grit and heart to get into 221 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: that end zone. And uh, and he was rolling, you know, 222 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: but like I don't you know, you can't really like 223 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: put too much on the offense. I mean the red 224 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: zone that that's fair like too. It's been an issue 225 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: all year and it hadn't didn't get solved and it 226 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: been him again like I've already said. But like overall, 227 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: they played pretty well, you know, considering the circumstances. Snoop, 228 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, you feel really I feel really bad for Snoop, 229 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, like to be now has to think about 230 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: that play all off season long, you know, the fumble 231 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: when he played a pretty darn good game, and um, 232 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, and and like you said, guys that stepped 233 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: up may plays like they may plays in the passing 234 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: game that they hadn't been making for weeks. And uh 235 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: clutch catches. Mark Andrews had a big game. It's just yeah, 236 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen Jake just j 237 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: K just go full tilt. Well look, if you haven't heard, 238 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, after the game, JK made that point. Um. 239 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: You know he basically said, I want, like, I don't 240 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: understand why I'm not the guy I should be playing 241 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: every stap. I want to get the ball more, giving 242 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: the ball on the red zone. Basically, you know, that 243 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: was basically his message. Um. And so he was frustrated. 244 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: You know, he kind of sounded off after the game. Um. Instead, 245 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: it's something he's been holding back for a little while. Um. 246 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: And so he's depression. Dude, you're not gonna get every carry. 247 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: He wants every carry. He wants every carry. And and 248 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: like when we had him on the podcast, you know, 249 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: this was a little similar to that day and train 250 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: camp where he came out there and was letting everybody 251 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: have it and saying put me on the field, like 252 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm back and all this stuff, like he is somebody 253 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: who he is not patient and be like is super 254 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: emotional and we'll let that out at times. I think 255 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: it comes from a great place because he cares, he 256 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: loves team almost like he's a competitor. So I think 257 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: it's from a good place. Um, And you know, I 258 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: think that he looks at it and he says, you know, 259 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: on that the phone ball, like he was asked specifically 260 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: about kind of the swing of emotions on that play 261 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: with Snoop, you know, and he's like he said that 262 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: he should never should have been in that situation. Basically, 263 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: just give me the ball and it wouldn't have we 264 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to worry about it, you know, Like he 265 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: wants every carry because I was pretty darn good too, 266 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: So like I don't think that we're you're gonna ever 267 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: be looking at a situation when these two guys are 268 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: your backs that you know it's a hundred or even. 269 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: I think that Gus Edwards is a great running back. 270 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Like he got to carry before them. He did he did. 271 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean j K fanished thirteen carry sixty two yards. 272 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: Us had twelve for thirty nine. So JK had more 273 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: yards per carry in this game. But like Guss has 274 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: had plenty of big games as well, like to take 275 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: anything away from Gus. I don't think j K intends 276 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: to do that, but he's very sure of what he brings, 277 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: and so am I. He looked pretty darn good out there, 278 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, And so it's tough. You know, you want 279 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: to keep your running backs fresh, and you know if 280 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: you if you do give j K every carry, he's 281 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: not as fresh. And you know, he got stood up 282 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: for a couple of very short or no games too. 283 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like he was breaking it everything 284 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: you touched the ball, But I don't know, I just 285 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's another what if for me is like 286 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: what if what if JK just was unleashed completely? I 287 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: would have like to see him get the ball more 288 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: inside the five. Yeah, you know, I think that a 289 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: lot of Rabos stands field that way, whether that's the 290 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: goal line series right before half or the series that 291 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: ended up with the snoop bumble. You know, like j 292 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: K he had shown on that play where he ended 293 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: up getting in the end zone. He made great play, 294 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: makes a good catch, shakes off a tackle, and he 295 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: does the you know, the reach across the goal line. 296 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of like the old the old 297 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: space jam Michael Jordan's uh like memes out there from that. 298 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he what he did. It was 299 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: an excellent play, great body control, and um, I think that, 300 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, I understand when the team loses and he 301 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: feels like he could have done more to avoid that, 302 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: that's where that frustration is coming from. Yes, for sure. 303 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: So going back to Tyler Huntley real quick, because I 304 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: agree with you, like you just you just feel bad 305 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: about him feeling you know, he was sick after that 306 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: game about how how it ended, and that fumble is 307 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: just gonna haunt him the entire off season. He's seventeen 308 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: six passing yards two touchdowns, also had fifty four rushing yards. 309 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: And the thing that I think really stings about that 310 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: phone ble is it came right after a thirty five 311 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: yard carry that put him in that position, and he 312 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: almost got in and he always got in close, and 313 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: you're just like, you're like, oh, he's gonna score, He's 314 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: gonna score. And then and then he ends up going 315 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: out of the you know, the two or the three, 316 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: and so it's like he he he put them right there, 317 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: He got him right there on the edge on that 318 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: series and the game as a whole, and just wasn't 319 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: able to finish the job. And I just feel horrible 320 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, totally. I mean, he played his butt off. 321 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: And this is a guy who had his practice reps 322 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: limited throughout the week because of a shoulder interest issue, 323 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: hadn't played the last week, has been dealing with shoulder 324 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: ten denightis for basically the entire season, he battled, He 325 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: went out there, any battles the number two quarterback. This 326 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: this team, this offense is all built around Lamar Jackson, 327 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: and Lamar wasn't available for the last six weeks, and 328 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley stepped in there and gave it everything he 329 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: had in that last game, and it just came up 330 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: a little bit short. Yeah. I mean that's that's kind 331 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: of the tale of the Ravens season. You know. I 332 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: just feel like in so many instances, so many losses 333 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: this year, it was just like so close, you know. 334 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens didn't get handled in any game 335 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: this year period. You know, like that that's kind of 336 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: when you when you the takeaway from this year, it's 337 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: like the Ravens were absolutely good enough and and and 338 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: if if Lamar had come back at some point in 339 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: this playoffs, you know, were they good enough to win 340 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: it all? Yeah? I think I think they could have, 341 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like they were that close 342 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: and and we can also you know, the Chiefs have 343 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: looked real good and all that. You know, the Bengals 344 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: around the eight game winning streak, and the Ravens should 345 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: have beaten them with their backup quarterback, you know, so like, 346 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: don't don't tell me that the Ravens couldn't have won 347 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: at all. I think they could have. I think it's 348 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: gonna I look like I said, I think it was 349 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna be difficult for that to happen. But like, could 350 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: this Bengals team go one around and go back to 351 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl shore and the Ravens had them on 352 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: the ropes in their in their place, I'll played them. 353 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: But so like right just and there's just been like 354 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: so many feelings of that in recent years. Is like 355 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: so close, so close, so close, you're just waiting one 356 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: can one fourth down, go our away? Can can know 357 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: a two point conversion, go our away, Cana whatever, Hail 358 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Mary go. You know the Ravens way, and it's like 359 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: they're just they're just a whisker away, and uh, that's 360 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: that's tough to deal with. So there's uh, we got 361 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: some emails. We've got a number of emails here to 362 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot nfl uh dot net. This 363 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: one comes from Kyle and this is something specifically to 364 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: this game. And by the way, we'll talk a little 365 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: bit big picture stuff here, but we're gonna have a 366 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: lot more conversations about kind of the off season plan 367 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: and what's going to happen and free agents and retirements 368 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: and Lamar and all that stuff. There will be plenty 369 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: of time to discuss all that what we're going to do, 370 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: but but for right now, it's just zero in on 371 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: the game a little bit more. There's a lot of 372 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: conversation about clock management at the end of the game, um, 373 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: and some criticism of the clock management, you know, at 374 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: the end, But this email from class is, I don't 375 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: really blame clock management. You knew exactly what they were 376 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: trying to do, and that was scored with hardly any 377 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: time left. Ideally saved this time out for run plays 378 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: when they're inside the ten or five because they have 379 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: huddled and got to the ball quicker, maybe, but it 380 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: was really the penalty that killed us. So the Ravens 381 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: get to the seventeen, they get holding penalty. Kevin Zeitler 382 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: backs some up ten yards. Now, basically you're kind of 383 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: just heaving it to the end zone. It didn't work. Um, 384 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: there's absolutely no way I'm feeling comfortable giving the ball 385 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: to Burrow and that offense for a field goal with 386 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: thirty five seconds left, and they also had a time out. 387 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: Fans need to remember that it was my Homes getting 388 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: a score with what eighteen seconds left last year in 389 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: that game against Buffalo. So he said Burrow Alan Mahomes 390 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: were too going to the passing game to give him 391 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: any time for a field goal. So do you have 392 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: any take on the clock management? You know, this is 393 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: Kyle's point on on this. Um. I I completely agree 394 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: that you you don't want to leave the Bengals with 395 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: too much time, um, because yeah, they can certainly We've 396 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: seen it time and time again teams to move down 397 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: the field quickly and getting field goal range. You know, 398 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: the only issue is that it kind of if you 399 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: did have a negative play now, it made it really tough, right, 400 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: Like it was kind of playing the scenario is like 401 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: this is kind of best case scenario, it'll work out. 402 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: And like we're playing for best case scenario. But if 403 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: you get a hiccup, if you get a bump in 404 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: the road there and now, oh, now we're in trouble. 405 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: We don't have enough time. You're you have to throw 406 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: the ball. You're in trouble. Know, maybe a little bit more, 407 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: just maybe you don't hudd over as long it's a 408 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: hurry up, would have been the call. I agree with 409 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: John and the time outs usage. I think you know 410 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: you needed to save him there, So you have to 411 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: make sure you have multiple shots to the ends and 412 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: from the ten or whatever it is, you know, um, 413 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: and you don't you don't have to throw it. You 414 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: don't have to throw it to the ends on exactly 415 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: every time, you know, right, you can throw it short 416 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: and maybe get a yak or whatever it is. But 417 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: I think I was watching it and saying, Okay, this 418 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: is getting a little too low here, like we're we're 419 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: backing ourselves into a corner here. Uh, And and that 420 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: ended up being coming to fruition kind of Yeah. Yeah, 421 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's like, yeah, I mean, first of all, 422 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: you want to score, and so like the Ravens, they 423 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: like they didn't score, so like, yeah, but no, that 424 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: doesn't isn't necessarily just because it's clock managing exactly Exactly. 425 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: They didn't score for other reasons. Exactly. They didn't score 426 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: because it got backed up and then they were taking 427 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: eas at the ends exactly. Um, and I guess part 428 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: of that clock management. But but yeah, I think that's 429 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: a good way of putting it. Basically, like you kind 430 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: of were trying to play it out. You're trying to 431 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: play out the scenario and say like, all right, let's 432 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: put ourselves in a position here where you know, you 433 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: score with ten seconds last rather than like a minute. Um. 434 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: But yeah, when you there's eight seconds left, you have 435 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: two timeouts and you're like, oh, this is what this is? 436 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: This is rough here, that's not the scenario that you 437 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: want in that in that situation. But again, I think 438 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: that was that was game script there in large measure. Yeah, 439 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: I agree. All right, here's another email. This one comes 440 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: from Daniel Mills. Thanks for the emails always, Daniel says, 441 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: rough ones for us tonight a rough All right, let 442 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: me try again. Sorry, all right, Here comes another email 443 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: from Daniel Mills. Thanks as always, Daniel, He says, hey, 444 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: guys rough one tonight for sure, but after all the adversity, 445 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: one fluke play changed the season. This game was a 446 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: mixed bag for me. Huntley played as well as you 447 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: could have hoped, pushed them all down the field well, 448 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: and made some great plays with his feet when they 449 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: needed it. But if it wasn't apparent before the Lamar 450 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Verus hunt, the debate is well put to bed. I 451 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: don't think Lamar stairs down to Andrews there in the 452 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: first quarter, and perhaps if Lamar is there on the 453 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: goal line it changes the play calling slightly. But if 454 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: ends or butts don't count in the playoffs online uh 455 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: oh Oline plus running game played extremely well and the defense, 456 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: after feeling out the Bengals oh early in the game, 457 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: put the clamps on. We could very well be celebrating 458 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: a huge well car win, but instead looking forward to 459 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: next year, he says he's looking forward to get more 460 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: playmakers via the draft any once Nuke. By the way, 461 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: just as a side note, I understand, like I can't 462 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: wait for next year, and I just hate you know, 463 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: it's like next year is a long way away. You know. 464 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: Players say that, like they said that today during locker 465 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: clean out, Like we're gonna have a lot of tip 466 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: depth coming back. And you look at this defense, and 467 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: this defense is really intact, you know, like you have 468 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: key players that are signed for multiple seasons, and like 469 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: you feel good about the defense. But it's a long 470 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: way away, and there's like so many steps that have 471 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: to happen between now and then. It's just so tough 472 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: to be like really get on board with like, yeah, 473 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait for next year. Well, that's that's really 474 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: the pain and and not you know, Lamar not being 475 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: out there is like this is what I felt all 476 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: last week. It's like, man if Lamar doesn't, it's just 477 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: such a shame. You you do, You do so much. 478 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: There's so many steps that go into building the team 479 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: on the over the off season, and so many practices 480 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: that go into getting sharp and there's just so much 481 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: work that gets put in. And to not be at 482 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: full strength when it comes to the playoffs and and 483 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: you know he's just not ready yet, you know, like 484 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: that sucks. It's just there's just so much poured into 485 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: this and to not even be able to give it 486 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: your best shot. And now every team deals with injuries, 487 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: right like whatever the Bengals, you know, lost the right tackle, 488 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: right guard, and then in the game they lost their 489 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: left tackle right so they had to overcome uh uh, 490 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, cobbled together offensive line. Right. There's a big 491 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: difference between that and a star quarterback that your entire 492 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: all offences built around, of course, right, And so like 493 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: just not being able to kind of see the Ravens 494 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: in all their glory at full strength, is that stinks? Yeah? 495 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: I think that to this question here from John, what 496 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: do you think we will remember about this season when 497 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: we look back on it in a year or five 498 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: years from now. Man, that's a tough one. And the 499 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: question was will re remember the fumble in the playoff game? 500 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Of course, and that that that basically like, is that 501 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: kind of what will define I think what you will 502 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: define it is that Lamar missed the final stretch, you know, 503 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: just when you you kind of had the defense humming 504 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: and the defense was really good, but Lamar went down 505 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: within the injury down the stretch didn't play in the 506 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: playoff game, and then you had a snoop fumble they 507 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: got returned on the eight yards for a touch and 508 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: that will be the lasting memory. Yeah, I agree, and 509 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: I think that this this season was kind of frustrating 510 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: because like it it never like early in the year, 511 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: the offense is playing well, they were putting up points, 512 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: the defense is struggling, and the defense is kind of 513 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: coming together. Mark as Peters was getting back on the field, 514 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's was finding his way, So you had some 515 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: issues on the defensive in the middle of the season. 516 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams went down and missed, you know, a good 517 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: stretch in the middle of the year, so you had 518 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: those you get you added in roke one. Also, the 519 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: defense kind of finds itself over the last month of 520 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: the season, is playing excellent ball, great ball, and they 521 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: they go into the postseason feeling like they're the strength 522 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: of this team. But just when that happens, Lamar Jackson 523 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: goes down and like the offense is struggling, and now 524 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: you're dealing with a second string and a third string quarterback. 525 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: So like it never really all away came together for 526 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: this team, and it just leaves you with this taste 527 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: of like it's like what could have been exactly? What 528 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: could have been exactly? And maybe a lot of teams 529 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: feel that way, like if you look around, like I'm 530 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: sure that there's other teams around the league. I'm sure 531 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are sitting here saying what if TWA had played? 532 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: You know, so, like I think that, like this isn't 533 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: a unique feeling to Baltimore. I think that like any 534 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: team that loses in the playoffs, especially to a close 535 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: game that you feel like you could have won, you're 536 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: sitting there saying what could have been? And you know 537 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: that's that's that's life in the NFL. Yeah. I mean 538 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of emails kind of with 539 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: the similar sentiment, you know. I mean Jack Kendall, you know, says, 540 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: for three three quarters quarters, um, minus a single play, 541 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: we felt like the better team to me pain Yeah um. 542 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: And here's one from Reid Bevan's I says, tonight this 543 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: team proved they can compete with the best in the NFL, 544 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: and the defense is looking set for years to come. 545 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: It's looking for like a promising future. If they can 546 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: keep Lamar and get more playmakers, I can't wait. But uh, 547 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: that's that's the positive. That's the yeah. Yeah, that's that's 548 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: the spin it forward. Alright, alright, I like it, but 549 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: you know, I like the sentiment you're not ready. You 550 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: need to hear what stage are you a process? Yeah, yeah, 551 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: I'm not totally looking ahead to next September yet. No 552 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: acceptance yet, you know, No, No, it's acceptance, but I'm 553 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: just not ready to just like, all right, well last 554 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: season was good. I can't wait till next year. Bring 555 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: on September. You're more like Trevor Watson here he went 556 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: his email with, Now, excuse me while I crying myself 557 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: to sleep. No, I'm not that fat, I'm not that bad. Um. 558 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: It's but it is. It's um again. I think I 559 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: think that there's just a real feeling of what could 560 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: have been in lots of different levels. So let's take 561 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: a quick break. When we come back, we'll talk a 562 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: little bit more about the game and also share some 563 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: thoughts after listening to the guys and over locker room today. 564 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: All right, so make the sports landscapes always changing, and 565 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: even though the season is over, this week is no different. 566 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: Draft Kings is the leader in daily fantasy sports and 567 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: it still has daily fantasy contest running for people who 568 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: are looking to at skin in the game. This is 569 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: how it works. Okay, every player has a salary associated 570 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: with drafting him, and you can assemble a lineup of players. 571 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: Then you try to stay under the salary cap and 572 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: you watch your points pile up. So go ahead and 573 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: down with the Draft Kings app. Today you can sign 574 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: up using the code flock and new users will getting 575 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: free edger with the first deposit the code. If you 576 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: missed it, all right, it's got it's flock all right. 577 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: You can sign up today at Draft Kings. So we 578 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: can't tell me again. A couple of a couple of notes. 579 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: I know, I know he got it down. Um, a 580 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: couple of notes here after listening to players in open 581 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: locker room Clay's campbell. Yeah, what what way? What way 582 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: do you think he's leaning on? What he said? So 583 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: he said, I'm not going to rush into make any decisions. 584 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: I would like to come back. I felt like I 585 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: played at a high level. You know, you ends up 586 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: relatively healthy. Um, you know, and felt like, you know, 587 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna come back. He basically said, if I'm 588 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: gonna come back, I don't want to just be a guy. 589 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be just a guy. Like he wants 590 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: to get sack one, but he ain't gonna just chase 591 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: that and whatever. Like he wants to be a highly 592 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: effective player. Yeah, like he had a great season based 593 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: on what I've seen from him, Like, I don't think 594 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: that the gases out of the tank in terms of 595 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: his ability. I think that like when you're at that stage, 596 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: you just have to make the decision of like do 597 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: I want to put my body through another another year. 598 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: He had the knee injury at the end of the season. Um, 599 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: you know that he had to play through, and you 600 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: just he was when you play this long in the NFL, 601 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: you take a beating. So I think it's like, obviously 602 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: he's made a ton of money, He's got a borderline 603 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career, So like, do you want to 604 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: come back and and fight through all the negatives of 605 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: continuing his career. I don't think. I guess if I 606 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: were guessing today, my guess is that he might play, 607 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: he'll play again. But I do not. But I do 608 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: not think, which is interesting because last year I was 609 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: like he's done. Like last year, I was like he's retired. 610 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: Like I just felt like he was. He seemed to 611 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: like he seemed to time of take that like tone 612 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: the entire season of like I'm gonna soak this up, 613 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy I don't know how I'm gonna be here. 614 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: And then like the end of the season, he was 615 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: like just sitting on the bench wherever. I was like 616 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: he's done, and then he wasn't. And so maybe I'm 617 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: gonna be wrong again, but um, I kind of feel 618 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: like he's going to run it back. Yeah, he is 619 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: on a contract. He is on a contract. He signed 620 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: a two year deal and he got the okay, you know, 621 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: I think when he made the decision, you know, to 622 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: come back this year, he wanted to make sure that like, okay, 623 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: this could be two years, you know. So like so 624 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: I think he would be that would be big to 625 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: have him back. I think trying to replace him would 626 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: be difficult this offseason. Yeah, and like you have a 627 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: really good defense. It's like you prefer not to create holes, 628 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: and so like you've got a good a really good 629 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: player here, so like let's just not create an unnecessary hole. 630 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: Is I'm not sure what the salary cap hit looks 631 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: like and all that stuff, but like I think the 632 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: two sides could work it out if he wants to 633 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: play another year, all right, So that then Justin Houston 634 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: is not under contract. Also, another guy that that toy 635 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: with the idea of retirement last year. He said after 636 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: the game on Sunday he expects he plans to come 637 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: back and play, most likely next season. Now, he also said, 638 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, I would like for that to be here, 639 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: but we'll see nine and a half sacks this year. 640 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: The team is sacks. Sacks are at a come at 641 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: a premium price, Sacks getting paid big money. So like 642 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: he showed that he is still worth some some serious 643 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: coin and it'll be interesting to see if a team him, 644 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: another team were to give him a nice contract. Um, 645 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: if he were to deal here. Yeah, I think that 646 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens um have the we're gonna we're gonna go 647 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: into the full off season short short right, The short 648 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: answer here is I think the Ravens have more young 649 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: talent waiting in the wings that if Justin Houston were 650 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: not to come then then they do on the defensive 651 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: line to replace class like like they have David Jabo 652 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: always going into a huge year three where it's a 653 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: make or break. He's got to prove himself. Big year 654 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: three for adaf a O a um and and Ojabo 655 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: is gonna be you know that much healthier and he 656 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: should get his chance to break out as a sophomore. 657 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: They have Taias Bowser, you know who they had previously 658 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 1: signed to a long term deal. You know, you have 659 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: pieces at outside linebacker. Uh. So, I think it's I 660 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: would like to see Justin return. I mean, he led 661 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: the team in Zachs. Don't really want to see that 662 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: walk out the door. Um, But I think it would 663 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: have to be a right player, right, you know, I 664 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: think it's the right player. It's the right price situation. 665 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: You know. I love justin Houston, what he's brought to 666 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: the team. I think everybody does. He likes, he loves 667 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: it here, and I think he'd want to return. But 668 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's taken some you know, reportedly, 669 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, very lower lower salary cap hits, you know, 670 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. And I think after nine 671 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: and a half sex he might be looking to cash 672 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: get paid a little bit more. And he has been, 673 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, So I think it depends on what the 674 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: price is there. Yeah, I agree with that. So and 675 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: then obviously the big one. And there's a bunch of 676 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: emails here. I'm not gonna read a specific one, um, 677 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: but in almost every email this has mentioned like what 678 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: is going to happen with Lamar, and I think that, 679 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: Like my short answer on that is, I don't know. 680 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's answer. That's a very short answer. Um, 681 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: I think you know, there were reports over the weekend 682 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: that the Ravens still want to try to work out 683 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: a long term deal with him. At locker clean out, 684 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: Lamar was not there and did not talk to the media, So, um, 685 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't talked to the media, you know, 686 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: in almost two months now. He obviously put out the 687 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: tweet um last week about his injury situation. But like 688 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: everyone's just guessing everyone like it is just guessing, like 689 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: what he thinks, what he wants. Everybody's trying to read 690 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: the t leaves and read into every little thing, you know, 691 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: Like here's what he posted on social media. Here's here's 692 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: what this tweet said. Um, I don't know, and I 693 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: don't know exactly like where what his motivation is, what 694 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: he's looking for, And I thought what he played into 695 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: the franchise tag, Like these are all questions that I 696 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: think that Like if someone is saying like basically, unless 697 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: I hear from Lamar, I don't necessarily believe it. Like 698 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: if someone's like, oh, Lamar is gonna play in the 699 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: franchise tag art No, no way, He's not gonna play 700 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: into the franchise tag unless I hear him say it. 701 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't really believe it. I feel you on that. 702 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, just briefly. I think one 703 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: of my takeaways from the open locker room session was 704 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: a multiple guys you know, coming up and saying like, 705 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: look like Lamar was limping around. I didn't think he 706 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: was really gonna play. And if you if you're not 707 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: right and you you don't feel right, you don't feel 708 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: like you can protect yourself, then shouldn't play. And the 709 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: class Campbell was pretty strong saying that, and other guys 710 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: did as well. Uh, and multiple guys I thought were 711 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: pretty darn and strong, Clais Campbell probably being his strongest, 712 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley being pretty darn and strong of saying like, 713 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: we absolutely want Lamar back, you know, like that's our guy, 714 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: we believe in him, we love Lamar, we think he's 715 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: a special, special talent, and we want him back. You know. 716 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: There's aren't their decisions to make, you know, but they 717 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: made their feelings where they stand on it, I thought 718 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: pretty clear, And Uh, I think everybody who watches Lamar 719 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: wants him back. He's awesome, you know what I mean. 720 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: But this is a it's a business, and business decisions 721 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: are are not made by us, and they're not made 722 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: by the players either, And and and it's a hard business decision. 723 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, they've been working at it for a while. So, um, 724 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, remains to be seen. I don't know either 725 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Yeah, I had my own hopes. I 726 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: hope I get to watch him play here a lot longer. Yeah, totally. 727 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's look watching Lamar jaction of the last 728 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: five years has been has been awesome. Um, It's a 729 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of fun. And there's a reason that the Ravens 730 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: are have made the playoffs for out of those five seasons. Um. 731 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: And he is he is a huge He is the 732 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: biggest piece of that. It's it really stings the last 733 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: two years that it's the same result in that he 734 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: ends the season, you know, on the sidelines, Um, unable 735 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: to play because of injuries that took longer than expected. 736 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: You know, It's like that is really disappointing and frustrating. Um, 737 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: And we'll see how this plays out again. Like, I 738 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: don't know, you know. The other interesting thing is like 739 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: who knows when we'll hear from Lamar, you know, like 740 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't know the next time 741 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from them, Like you know, players are 742 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: gone out until you know, mid April, and that's all voluntary, 743 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: you know. And last year, Yeah, come up, come on 744 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: down before before you head out this offseason, coming by 745 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: the lounge. So I don't know when we'll hear from 746 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know when we're gonna hear from the war. 747 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: So we'll have to wait and see. Anyway, there's a 748 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: lot more to be uh discussed about the Ravens off 749 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: season and what's to come. We will do plenty of that. 750 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening as always, thank you over the 751 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: course of the season. Tune in every uh Monday typically 752 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: morning and listen to our rambling. None are organized, just 753 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: a stream of consciousness thoughts about the game. We really 754 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: do appreciate it, and uh, you know, it was a 755 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: good run. It was a good run. Good season. You 756 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, not most teams don't get that far. 757 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: Came up short, but hey there's always next year, yeah right, yeah, 758 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: well it was yeah, it was we look well, we'll 759 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: still be here. There's gonna be a lot to talk 760 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: about this offseason, Like we just got fascinating off We 761 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: we hit a couple of high level points, but there's 762 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot to discuss um. You know, pretty 763 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: soon here we're gonna be turning the page of the 764 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: combine a free agency and the drafts and all that stuff. 765 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: So we'll be breaking down all of that. So the Lounge, 766 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 1: even though the season is over, the lounge's not going anywhere, 767 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: So continue to send us your emails every week to 768 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL NETT. Thank you so 769 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: much for listening, and we'll talp you against in m