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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draftings. I'm Garrett Downing

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by Clifton Brown, and we are here

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Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach, Florida, at the Breakers Hotel where

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Speaker 1: the NFL is holding their annual owners meetings. All owners

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Speaker 1: and head coaches and general managers are here, and we're

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Speaker 1: wrapping up a few days here in Florida, and it's

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Speaker 1: been a busy, productive few days of work for us

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Speaker 1: and of course for the league as a whole at

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Speaker 1: these meetings. And part of the conversation that we had

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Speaker 1: a chance to have here is with Ravens owner Steve A.

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Speaker 2: Shotty.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Ravens and John Harbaugh reached a contract

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Speaker 1: extension just before these meetings, so I had a chance

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Speaker 1: to sit down with Steve and John together talking about

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Speaker 1: their relationship that's seventeen years and going on four more,

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Speaker 1: and the mindset that they have going into this season.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to go ahead and roll that interview

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Speaker 1: and Cliff and I will then share our thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the backside of that conversation. Hey, Ravens, and I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited today to be joined by Raven's owner Steve Mashatti

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Speaker 1: and head coach John Harwell, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: the time today.

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Speaker 3: Pleasure good to be here.

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Speaker 1: So right before the owner's meeting started, news broke that

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Speaker 1: you have a new contract extension and obviously very excited,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure for you and for you Steve getting this

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Speaker 1: deal done. What has you most excited about the future

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Speaker 1: with John and this.

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Speaker 4: Team, Steady steady. I think we were doing a lot

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Speaker 4: of the right things. And yeah, it's it's not a

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Speaker 4: lot of work. I don't know if you spend any

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Speaker 4: time on it, but I didn't. I mean, you've got

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Speaker 4: an agent, you know, I've got SACI. So it's just

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Speaker 4: kind of we knew it was going to come. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't like a surprise, I don't think to either of us.

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Speaker 4: It was just I didn't know how long it was

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Speaker 4: going to take to work out the deal. But I

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Speaker 4: think you're his agent, probably was excited to get it

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Speaker 4: done as quickly as we were. And I don't think

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Speaker 4: it took much time, and there wasn't much, you know,

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Speaker 4: much deal or just extend a thing.

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Speaker 3: I think he demanded more money but suggested you suggest

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Speaker 3: appreciate a strong suggestions, So yeah, we're happy to have them.

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Speaker 1: For four more years, John, for you know, you've been

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Speaker 1: here seventeen years obviously, you know that's that's that's rare

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't need to tell you that.

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Speaker 1: And this is going to take you past twenty What

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Speaker 1: does that mean to you?

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Speaker 5: It just means more determined than ever. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think just when you have an opportunity to be together

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Speaker 5: all these years like this, and we've had so many moments,

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Speaker 5: you know, and I think it's like life kind of

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Speaker 5: is a metaphor for life. You know, the challenges, there's opportunities,

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Speaker 5: there's obstacles, there's conversations, there's all these things that come

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Speaker 5: up and you and you walk these journeys together, you know,

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Speaker 5: and I feel like you kind of build these relationships

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Speaker 5: with people. And Steve, I've said this before, he's become

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Speaker 5: like a big brother. You know. I have a little brother,

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Speaker 5: you know, but I never had an older brother, and

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Speaker 5: to have over the course of this time, just what

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Speaker 5: we've been through together, I just want to make him proud,

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Speaker 5: and I want to work hard and I want to

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Speaker 5: find a way to just to continue to improve. I

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Speaker 5: feel proud about the things that we've accomplished. But you know, unfulfilled.

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Speaker 5: You know, you feel like all we're really thinking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we weren't talking about any of this other stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we were talking about let's get this done, you know,

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Speaker 5: let's accomplish what we want to accomplish. Right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious how that dynamic works in season and out

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Speaker 1: of season. How the two of you, the conversations that

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Speaker 1: you have the council, you know, especially you lean on

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Speaker 1: Sea four during the season, and how you push each other,

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Speaker 1: because this is like a partnership. As you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: how does that relationship work over the course of the year.

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Speaker 4: I think I don't come out of left field very

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Speaker 4: often to him when I'm giving him advice. I think

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Speaker 4: that we like have our lanes. And I know what

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Speaker 4: he's going through because he's the face of the franchise.

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Speaker 4: He's going through these decisions. He's being questioned and criticized

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Speaker 4: and everything else, and so I take it seriously. It

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Speaker 4: makes me mad when he's unduly criticized. If he's criticized

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Speaker 4: and I agree with it, I kind of have to

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Speaker 4: the criticism. Yeah, you know, it's like you write a

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Speaker 4: sharp knife, not about it. So, yeah, it's just I

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Speaker 4: I know what he wants to accomplish. Can he get

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Speaker 4: distracted sometimes, yeah, because there are distractions all around him.

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Speaker 4: There's no distractions around me. So I think it's my

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Speaker 4: I'm not telling him to be some I'm reminding him

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Speaker 4: that he might be a hair off of being what

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Speaker 4: he wants to be when he wants to be, you know.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I like my role, and I like

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Speaker 4: my role being behind the scenes. I don't I don't

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Speaker 4: wish that on him, you know, but it's part for

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Speaker 4: the course. That's why he makes it more money than

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: I'll take the.

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Speaker 5: Books on that. It's true though. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 5: there's a lot going on. I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of you're driving this car, man, there's light flashing everywhere,

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Speaker 5: and there's traffic everywhere, there's people zooming around, and and

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Speaker 5: you get on the phone and or we'll talk, or

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Speaker 5: Steve will stop buying and sit down on the couch

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Speaker 5: sometimes and just you know, have you thought about this,

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Speaker 5: or maybe you should be looking at it that way,

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Speaker 5: or did you hear this happened, or here's what I

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Speaker 5: was thinking when when that situation came up. I thought

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Speaker 5: you were going to make this movie. You're going to

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Speaker 5: of emotionally sidetracked, you know, I can be thinking about

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Speaker 5: something too much. Sometimes He's like, why you're worried about that,

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Speaker 5: that's not even that's not even what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 3: That the main thing, it's not the main the main

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Speaker 5: Right, And that's that's valuable. And for head coach, you

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Speaker 5: don't get that too often because it's not too often

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Speaker 5: the players are going to say that. It's not even

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Speaker 5: too often Eric will say it to me, Will sometimes,

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Speaker 5: but or even the coaches, because they're all in there,

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Speaker 5: they're in their forest. You know, I'm trying to be

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Speaker 5: their forest for the trees, but I've got to have

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Eric, and for both of you. The stability

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Speaker 1: has been the name of the game for for the

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Speaker 1: Ravens for forever. And you went from Ossie to Eric

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Speaker 1: and there's this great partnership between personnel and coaching, and

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Speaker 1: that is not the case everywhere, as both of you know,

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Speaker 1: how important has that been, the dynamic between both sides

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Speaker 4: It's obviously it's everything, you know. The only the hiring

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Speaker 4: processes is fraught with mistakes because you don't have the time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we spent ten hours together before I hired you,

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Speaker 4: and that lasted it's now seventeen years. So how do

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Speaker 4: you not make mistakes? So I see my partners, my

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Speaker 4: business partners, they make mistakes, but it's not necessarily that

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Speaker 4: they're bad judges of character or talent or anything. It's

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Speaker 4: that they are under the gun. They don't have time

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Speaker 4: to get to know people were hiring strangers, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean I did that in my business my whole life.

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Speaker 4: And Art was great at it too, and so like

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Speaker 4: you know, I came in under his tutelage, and that

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Speaker 4: It wasudge judging character, keeping a family environment, keeping it honest,

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Speaker 4: transparent environment. I thought he was really good at all

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Speaker 4: those skills, and then he hands me Azzie. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he drafts him in the first round, and then he says,

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Speaker 4: if you're giving up football, you're not giving up the Browns.

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Speaker 4: So scouting or coaching, you decide. So I inherit him,

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Speaker 4: and one of his first hires is Eric. So that's

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Speaker 4: put in, you know, right there. I inherit a coach.

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Speaker 4: Three years after I take charge, I replace him with John.

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Speaker 4: And continuity is a gift that you get. You try

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Speaker 4: and participate in that continuity, but it's really it's bigger

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Speaker 4: than people. You've got to really work at it, and

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Speaker 4: it can it can go sideways if you don't, if

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Speaker 4: like we get complimented by the contuity, and it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: what's the alternative? Rolling through coaches, Well, then you're picking

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Speaker 4: the wrong people obviously, and they're failing at their job.

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Speaker 5: Not just choosing the right people. Although I think as

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Speaker 5: I've looked at it, you've always done that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Steve is always that's what that's that's how you you

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Speaker 5: made a fortune by choosing people. But it's not just

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Speaker 5: choosing people, it's also working with people. It's also coaching people,

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Speaker 5: developing people along the way. Countless conversations where he's advised

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Speaker 5: What do I say in this situation? How would you

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Speaker 5: look at this? And we'll be in the phone for

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Speaker 5: hours sometimes going through it all, and You've always got

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Speaker 5: You know, it's always some other type of an angle

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Speaker 5: that is just kind of I would say, Wow, that's

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Speaker 5: another way to look at it. And it's The NFL

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Speaker 5: is kind of fraught with fault lines. The biggest one

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Speaker 5: is the coaching in the scouting fault line in every organization.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure every dynamic has there's power, and there's pushes

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Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. That is never I've never felt

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Speaker 5: that in our organization ever. And because of the people.

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Speaker 5: The people are the people positioned in these different spots,

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Speaker 5: them in the parking lot. They're good people. They're good

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Speaker 5: people who have the same goal. But we all know

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Speaker 5: what the expectations are because the boss sets the standard.

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Speaker 5: This is how we're going to treat one another. This

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Speaker 5: never been like who's in charge of this or whatever.

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Speaker 5: Everybody understands their area of responsibility and they just want

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Speaker 5: it to be good. But everybody works with one another.

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Speaker 5: We don't agree to disagree on anything. We agree to

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Speaker 5: agree ultimately on everything. But that's the work you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, the work exactly. My strength is that I

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Speaker 4: bought a hobby, not a business. I've been in business.

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Speaker 4: I was successful at business in that business. When I

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Speaker 4: got into this, I wanted it to be an uber hobby.

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Speaker 4: And I think that it freed me to look at

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Speaker 4: this next career of mine as when you as not

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Speaker 4: life and death, because I spent twenty years like everything

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Speaker 4: was life and death.

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Speaker 3: And so I have a partner and it's life and

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Speaker 3: death for him, right for me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Not for me.

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Speaker 4: And so I think that that's why I can give

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And we went back and got Lamar.

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Speaker 4: And and made just what you said, building a team.

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Speaker 4: Can we build an offense around Lamar?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Can we build a team around this coach? Can we

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Speaker 4: build a company around the employees I absorbed from Art Modell.

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Speaker 3: That's the question.

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Speaker 4: It's like, well, you can, if you do it right,

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Speaker 3: And that's you go back from May to you to.

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Speaker 3: How silly does that sound?

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Speaker 4: Now? Because we were looking at it like, oh, there's

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Speaker 1: So you going back to that point when when you

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Speaker 1: Of course you could build it around him, and everyone

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Speaker 3: Wanted him to work out as a receiver, right, and

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Speaker 1: For running back exactly. And so to make that decision

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Speaker 4: I don't even look at it at as a risk, really,

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Speaker 5: Really, what was the risk? I remember looking back and

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Speaker 5: He's a value because of that. It just is kind

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Speaker 1: You made this point today, and you've been a supporter

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Speaker 5: He didn't put it in the words came and expressed it.

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Speaker 5: It's like so deep, it's so deep inside, such a desire,

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Speaker 4: I don't look at Lamar singularly. It's such a I

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Speaker 4: I don't like waiting twelve years, and yet I'm respectful

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Speaker 3: Know what we can do.

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Speaker 4: I know that we work to put ourselves in position

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Speaker 4: But you know what, this is not for the meek,

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Speaker 5: And when we win it, we're gonna start all over

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Speaker 5: But I want to.

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Speaker 3: I want to. I want to have that problem. It's

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Speaker 3: I wanted to repeat, no, I want you know, well, maybe.

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Speaker 4: We were repeating we've got a window. We've got a window.

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Speaker 1: With Lamar Steve, I know you are super into the draft.

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Speaker 1: I know you've joked in the past about you know,

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Speaker 5: Enjoying me a couple of days since his last draft calls.

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Speaker 4: are like, okay, yeah.

436
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I just love it.

437
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: I always said that in free I tell my friends

438
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 4: free agency, we have a budget, and we quickly burned

439
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 4: through it, like this year, Like we came back to

440
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 4: Jupiter and it was we don't need a wholesale change.

441
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 4: We need to figure out how many of our guys

442
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 4: we had more free agents than we had money available

443
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 4: to spend, and that happens every year. But we weren't

444
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 4: really looking outside the organization. And then we're psyched to

445
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 4: get Ricard and it's like to get Ronnie, and it's

446
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 4: like to get Thailand. It's it's like, but we had

447
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: a lot of let a lot of them go, and

448
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 4: that's never a good thing. But you know, going in

449
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 4: you're gonna have more free agents that you want than

450
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: you have money to spend on it, right.

451
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 5: So I tell a good thing.

452
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 4: I tell people that's that's my money, that's our money.

453
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: But the draft is already in Eric's budget. So I

454
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 4: say the draft is like going Christmas shopping with somebody

455
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 4: else's credit card.

456
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 3: That's how exciting it is.

457
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 4: Because they're all free, they've already been accounted for it,

458
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 4: they're already paid for it. So I just love it,

459
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: and I love watching these guys. I can't believe some

460
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: succeed and I can't believe some fail. You know, It's

461
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 4: like when I go through the people that we've loved.

462
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: I've loved more than you, You've loved more than me,

463
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 4: and some of them are great. In some of them

464
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 4: you think, how did that person? How did that guy fail?

465
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 4: You know, But there's so much that goes into it

466
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 4: that we don't really know their backstories to a degree.

467
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's fun.

468
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 4: It's my hobby on top of my main hobby. That's

469
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: my real that's my off season hobby.

470
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

471
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Speaker 6: And I'm sure I know you love the draft too,

472
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 6: or you fired up about just just the process and

473
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 6: the prospects.

474
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 5: You can't talk about it enough. I mean just watching

475
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 5: the tape, the grind to that part of a one

476
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy one players we were talking about, you know,

477
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 5: and Steve seen guys and it's just it is. It's fun.

478
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 5: It's like who fits our team? You know, who do

479
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 5: you really want? Well, ask the coaches all the time,

480
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 5: and Eric asked the questions. It's just tell me who

481
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 5: you want, tell me who you want. You see a

482
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 5: spot form in this team, and who you excited about.

483
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 5: That's kind of that's the fun part.

484
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: Of taking it beyond the field. The organization is in

485
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: a great shape. The stadium lease is in place, there's

486
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: exciting renovations happening at the stadium, there's renovations happening at

487
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: the undearned Performance Center. How pleased are you when you

488
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: look at the state of the organization as a whole,

489
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: beyond just the football team, but where this team sits

490
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: organization wide goes.

491
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Speaker 4: Back to the continuity you're talking about. I had one

492
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: president for twenty years and sas she's stuck with me

493
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: for twenty more. And it's just money, it's just debt.

494
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 4: It's just we want the best for our fans. I

495
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: want the best for my players. So yeah, physical facilities,

496
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: that's just a no brainer. I wouldn't ever get I

497
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 4: wouldn't get caught behind. I'd rather be one step ahead

498
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 4: of that stuff. And God bless the State of Maryland.

499
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: You know, they came up with the money, they didn't

500
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 4: get it to the point Art Modell was in Cleveland

501
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: and Ursay was here in Baltimore. It was like the

502
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 4: state realized that they've got a gym there at Camden

503
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 4: Yards and they needed to be proactive, and they showed us,

504
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 4: without fighting, how the state can work with teams. And

505
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 4: I know David is appreciative of it too across the

506
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: stre So we've got a great thing going here, both

507
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 4: baseball and football.

508
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: I got a question about that. You talk about a

509
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 5: gem at Camdon Yards, and some of these other stadiums

510
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 5: that they're already built come of the same era that

511
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 5: they're tearing down and replacing. You You've got this gem

512
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 5: at M and T Bank Stadium that you've you're you're

513
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 5: you know, making better and renovating. But it is kind

514
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 5: of becoming an iconic stadium.

515
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: Right Yeah, I think so.

516
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 4: And part of that is is M and T standing

517
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 4: stepping up and giving us extension upon extension, and they're

518
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 4: they're great, they're they're just a great partner. So yeah,

519
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 4: I think that when you say iconic, it's like win games,

520
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: and certainly the name on the stadium better stay the same.

521
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it has become, to your point, a place

522
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: that when we talk to these free agents who come in,

523
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: they say, man, we played here in twenty twenty one

524
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: and it was so tough. You know, the night game

525
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: there was so tough, and I remember that game on

526
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. I think it's developed a reputation around

527
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: the NFL.

528
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't think driving up to it, like you see,

529
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 5: it's got the brick and the steel and it's night

530
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 5: lights and the way it's set up, it just it's

531
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: going to last forever. It's not going to be one

532
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: of those you know, look like a spaceship landing there.

533
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 7: Now.

534
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: Listen, we started construction after Camden Yards, so it was

535
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 4: only fitting that we kind of tried to do something

536
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: that was similar, that was old school and so old

537
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: school lasts.

538
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

539
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: So lastly, you're this is the thirtieth season of Ravens

540
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: football in Baltimore for both of you. Obviously has been

541
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: a great run up to this point for these first

542
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: these first thirty years. What do you envision for the

543
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: next thirty years of Baltimore Ravens football.

544
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I want to. I

545
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: just I want to win now. I don't. I don't,

546
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't give a damn about thirty years

547
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: from now. I really don't. I want to win now.

548
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: I want to win with these guys. I want to

549
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 3: I want to win now.

550
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty days from now, I'm talking about draft coming up.

551
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Coming up.

552
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: You guys are fired up by this year. I can

553
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 6: tell it.

554
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: Just it seems like there's just the energy and enthusiasm

555
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: and you're ready to play.

556
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna be great. We're gonna be a great team.

557
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: We're gonna do it every day. We got to be

558
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: good at the things that really matter. You know, we're determined.

559
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 6: It's awesome. Well, thank you so much for the time.

560
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.

561
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: Thank you.

562
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 5: Thanks ging.

563
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: So Cliff.

564
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: Obviously just insightful Stelf. I thought from from Steve and

565
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: from John and talking about I really think the relationship

566
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: that they have and the connection that they have.

567
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, a great job by you in an interview, I thought,

568
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 7: yeah too, And also, yes, the chemistry that they have

569
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 7: extremely important. You know, ladyship opposite between owner, owner, head

570
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 7: coach uh kind of sets the tone in a lot

571
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 7: of ways along with the general manager in the direction

572
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 7: that the Braves go, and they are so much on

573
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 7: the same page. I think that interview gave it insight

574
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 7: of how they interact, that they are not afraid to

575
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 7: express their opinions, but they're always on the same page.

576
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 7: And that you know, Steven Shaddy, you know, I believe

577
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 7: views himself as someone to help John along the way

578
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 7: for particularly during the season where it's so emotional wins

579
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 7: and losses every week, the ups and downs. What a

580
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 7: great sounding board for John to have someone like Steve

581
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 7: who knows the team so well, knows him so well,

582
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 7: can kind of help him keep the steady pace and

583
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 7: get back focused on the next week if you're coming

584
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 7: off a disappointing loss. And yeah, I mean, you don't

585
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 7: want a person that you always agree with, but you

586
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 7: want a person that you can always work with. And

587
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 7: the fact that they've been able to work together so

588
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 7: successfully so long has been a really key part of

589
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 7: the raid and success.

590
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve made the point in the conversation that he

591
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: views himself as being able to see the forest through

592
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: the trees. John is in it, and the day to

593
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: day he's dealing, he's in the trenches. He's dealing with coaches,

594
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: he's dealing with players, he's dealing with game planning. He

595
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: is living the highs and lows of an NFL season,

596
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: where Steve can look at it from that aerial view

597
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: and say, you know, what about going this route or

598
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: what about trying this and how just that type of perspective,

599
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, he's he's the owner and he

600
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: can call the shots, but he also defers to John

601
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: and allows him to make decisions as well. And of

602
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: course Eric, so I thought that that was, you know,

603
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: interesting perspective in terms of how he sees that dynamic

604
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: and that relationship. And I do think in that conversation

605
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: you've got to see how they play off of each other.

606
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: You know, they joked and had some good moments in there.

607
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: And then the other part to me that that really

608
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: I think stood out is just the stability. And it's

609
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: stability at like every level. It's stability ownership, itstability to

610
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: head coach stability and from a personnel standpoint and the

611
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: stability a quarterback. And like when during John's tenure, it

612
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: was it went straight from Joe to Lamar. And it's

613
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 1: rare to have a coach that's been here in one

614
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: spot for seventeen years. It almost never happens, right. It's

615
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: also rare to have a coach who's had just essentially

616
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in his tenure. That's also incredibly rare. And

617
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: so I thought the perspective on that was enlightening, no question.

618
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 7: I mean, that's a blessing the Ravens have had to

619
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 7: have two quarterbacks like that, and particularly back to back. Yeah,

620
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 7: that's been a blessing. But give the Ravens foresight that

621
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 7: they were able to make those moves. I mean, no question,

622
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 7: when the Ravens drafted Joe Flack or not, everyone was saying, Oh,

623
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 7: this is going to be a great move. He's going

624
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 7: to be a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Lamar had to

625
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 7: watch thirty one other people drafted in front of him

626
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 7: before he was taken. There were so many questions about

627
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 7: Lamar when he came to the league, what he can do,

628
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 7: what he can do, and how good he's going to be.

629
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 7: The Ravens had the foresight to make that move to

630
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 7: go get him, and obviously they're reaping the benefits.

631
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: And the thing about that that's crazy is that, you know,

632
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: I asked, basically, everyone else is saying this is this

633
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: is a risk, and this is a big question and

634
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and it looks like it was a

635
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: no brainer now, But that wasn't the conversation. You go

636
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: back to twenty eighteen and Steve's point that like, well,

637
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: it's only a risk if you don't kind of believe

638
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: in the system, the ability to build around him and

639
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: the ability to set him up for success, and so

640
00:30:59,520 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: he didn't.

641
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: They didn't see it as this big risk.

642
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: And I thought that was just interesting way of looking

643
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: at it.

644
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 7: It is, when you make the commitment to draft Lamar,

645
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 7: then you also have to have the foresight or should

646
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 7: have the foresight to maximize what he does best and

647
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 7: build the entire system, as John often says, around him.

648
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 7: That's what the Ravens have done, and I believe in

649
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 7: Todd Monkin it's even going to another level allowing Lamar

650
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 7: the freedom, as he says, to give him the keys

651
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 7: to the offense to drive the car. When you have

652
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 7: a talent like Lamar Jackson. He is one of one,

653
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 7: not only with his talent, but his versatility the things

654
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Speaker 7: that he can do. The Ravens, I think, are still

655
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Speaker 7: building on taking advantage of all the things Lamar can do.

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Speaker 7: But you can see that this whole system has been

657
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Speaker 7: set up for him to succeed. And also one point

658
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Speaker 7: with John two. I give Steve a lot of ANDASI

659
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Speaker 7: and everyone who was involved with decision to hire John

660
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Speaker 7: Harlball as a guy who had been a long time

661
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Speaker 7: special teams coach.

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Speaker 6: That was an.

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Speaker 7: Outside the box move. It's still an outside the box

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Speaker 7: move all these years later. There aren't many teams that

665
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Speaker 7: will give a special teams coach who has never been

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Speaker 7: a coordinator the head coaching job. They just, to me

667
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Speaker 7: don't have the courage even if the person does will

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Speaker 7: in an interview to make that move. The Ravens did,

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Speaker 7: and look how well it's paid off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the last point that that I'll mention that really

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Speaker 1: stands out to me is how driven both of them are.

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Speaker 1: You can tell that it ticks them off the way

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Speaker 1: last season ended and being so close to these last

675
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Speaker 1: few years and and they're doing everything possible. Uh, from

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Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint right now, John and the staff and

677
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Speaker 1: they're building the system and they're talking about ways to

678
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Speaker 1: evolve and improve and and Steve is pushing as well,

679
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Speaker 1: like there's there's not a there's there's an impatience around

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Speaker 1: not winning a Super Bowl and then that and that's

681
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Speaker 1: something that is driving them and you can tell in

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Speaker 1: that conversation. So they're they're doing everything possible to make

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Speaker 1: that happen now. In addition to sitting down with both

684
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Speaker 1: of them, also had a chance to talk with Ravens

685
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Speaker 1: President Sashi Brown about some of the big business objectives

686
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Speaker 1: that the team has right now and the focus on

687
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Speaker 1: that side of things as well.

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Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and roll that conversation.

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Speaker 1: Here a Ravens fans, I'm excited now to be joined

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Speaker 1: by Ravens President Sashi Brown.

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Speaker 6: So she we're here at the league meetings.

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Speaker 1: And as you look at the organization right now, what

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Speaker 1: do you see as the key areas of focus.

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Speaker 2: For the team?

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Speaker 8: I think it's first at a really exciting time. You know,

696
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Speaker 8: we've got two times some would say three times MVP,

697
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Speaker 8: a quarterback leading us one of the most exciting athletes

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Speaker 8: in the world. Much less quarterback in our.

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Speaker 9: Sport in Lamar, Derek and all the players.

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Speaker 8: So we always keep the main thing, the main thing,

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Speaker 8: which is let's win as many football games as we

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Speaker 8: can and field a championship level squad. And Eric and

703
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Speaker 8: John have done a masterful job at leading us and

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Speaker 8: situating the franchise to do just that.

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Speaker 9: So that's the first thing. So it's a great time

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Speaker 9: to just be a fan of the team.

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Speaker 8: And then, you know, I think it's a really exciting

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Speaker 8: time in the history of the French We've extended our

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Speaker 8: lease which has allowed us in partnership with Maryland to

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Speaker 8: make a major investment and reimagine really M and T

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Speaker 8: Bank Stadium and the fan experience, which was already.

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Speaker 9: You know, we're usually one two three in.

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Speaker 8: The league given the year in terms of our stadium

714
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Speaker 8: experience of fan experience, but now we're able to reinvest

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Speaker 8: in that alongside Maryland and bring a lot more to

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Speaker 8: the game day experience and all that tailgating experience, bring

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Speaker 8: it right to the stadium footprint with a ton of

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Speaker 8: new spaces and exciting opportunities. So it's a great time

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Speaker 8: to be the Ravens fans and we're really excited to

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Speaker 8: roll out this second phase of renovations for the flock.

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned those renovations are ongoing both at the

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Speaker 1: under Armed Performance Center and at MT Bank Stadium.

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Speaker 6: At the stadium, what has you excited.

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Speaker 1: About these renovations in terms of bringing the stadium to

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Speaker 1: the next phase of its iteration.

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I think it's just a volume

727
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Speaker 8: of new opportunities and spaces that in fan experiences that

728
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Speaker 8: you'll see. So everybody when they come to the stadium,

729
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Speaker 8: they're going to see technology immediately.

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Speaker 9: That's a huge part of what we wanted to do.

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Speaker 8: We understand that nobody wants to miss a second of

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Speaker 8: the game, so we are heavily investing to make sure

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Speaker 8: that we update our technology around the stadium. The second

734
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Speaker 8: thing is there's a ton of new spaces. Last year

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Speaker 8: you saw the Miller Like gatehouse. It was one of

736
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Speaker 8: our most popular additions, so people were able to take

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Speaker 8: in the roof deck and obviously the beer hall as well.

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Speaker 9: But this year we're going to start to see the

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Speaker 9: plaza come to life.

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Speaker 8: One of our challenges is when we built the stadium originally,

741
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Speaker 8: is we built out very small retail space, so Ravens

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Speaker 8: fans will have a place to come in Baltimore three

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Speaker 8: hundred and sixty five days a year, not even just

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Speaker 8: limited to game days, to come get merchandise in apparel

745
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Speaker 8: and a huge news store. With our partnership with Fanatics,

746
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Speaker 8: is going to be a really exciting opportunity to get

747
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Speaker 8: more in different type of Ravens apparel, your jerseys and

748
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Speaker 8: all the things, of course, but just a lot more products.

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Speaker 9: So there's a ton of new spaces for people to take.

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Speaker 8: Advantage of, and the plazas are going to be awesome

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Speaker 8: to bring that tailgate experience that's so unique to Baltimore

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Speaker 8: right onto our state and footprint.

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Speaker 1: So something that fans don't get to see, but you

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Speaker 1: and I were living through it is a construction at

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Speaker 1: the Unheur owned Performance Center. There's a lot going on.

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Speaker 1: What can you share about the work that's happening at UAPC.

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Speaker 8: Well not too much right now, but we knew if

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Speaker 8: you can believe it, the Castle, which is still I

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Speaker 8: think one of the best training facilities in sports and

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Speaker 8: part of our legacy, really needed an investment on the

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Speaker 8: football side. There's been so much progress and evolution. We

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Speaker 8: went to the front of the class in ahead when.

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Speaker 9: We first built the castle.

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Speaker 8: But I think now at under armed training facility, you've

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Speaker 8: seen colleges at the D one level and other facilities

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Speaker 8: built around the NFL that have just progressed and pushed

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Speaker 8: forward what a modern training facility looks like. We hadn't

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Speaker 8: made major changes to our football side of the building.

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Speaker 8: We added a wing some years ago on the business

770
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Speaker 8: side to accommodate an increase in headcount and expanding staff,

771
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Speaker 8: but we really wanted to invest in our players and

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Speaker 8: their experience, and so we've got some new, high powered,

773
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Speaker 8: really well thought out and big designs that we've shared

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Speaker 8: with our players and I wait until we unveil them

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Speaker 8: here with Chad and the rest of the PR team.

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Speaker 1: So it's actually one of the things that was announced

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Speaker 1: earlier today here at the league meetings is the global

778
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Speaker 1: markets program and the Ravens have now entered the UK

779
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Speaker 1: market and been granted UK marketing rights. So what's the

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Speaker 1: significance of this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, grateful for the NFL granting us those rights. The

782
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Speaker 8: UK has been a place we've played two games already

783
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Speaker 8: and the growth of the NFL game internationally is booming.

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Speaker 8: So you know about flag football coming to the Olympics

785
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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty eight, So it's a global game. We've

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Speaker 8: seen a lot of that growth here locally in Maryland,

787
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Speaker 8: we're right on the verge of getting Girls' Flag Young

788
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Speaker 8: Women's Flag to be sanctioned at the state level, with

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Speaker 8: scores of teams across different counties playing now inter school

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Speaker 8: and so you know, we look at the growth of

791
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Speaker 8: the game internationally, we look at UK as one of

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Speaker 8: the places that's really going to be a bedrock for us.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the game is well established there, there are

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Speaker 8: two or three games, they are played every year. We

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Speaker 8: thought it was a natural fit for us, and there's

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Speaker 8: a lot of commonality and love for our brand over there.

797
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Speaker 8: So we're happy to get the win last time. We

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Speaker 8: went over a year before last against Tennessee, pulled Derek

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Speaker 8: over to our.

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Speaker 9: Side, and we'll be ready to go back and get

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Speaker 9: after it.

802
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Speaker 8: But we've seen a huge amount of appetite the game

803
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Speaker 8: growing in South America, Mexico, Central America, but also in Europe,

804
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Speaker 8: and so UK I thought was a great fit for us.

805
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Speaker 8: Easy to bring fans over. We've had a couple come

806
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Speaker 8: over already, and easy for us get back over to play.

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Speaker 5: Some more games.

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Speaker 1: Something that I get asked about as much as almost

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Speaker 1: anything football related is often uniforms.

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Speaker 6: So I'm sure you get these questions all the time.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Of course people love to talk about the games and

813
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Speaker 1: what happens in those, but people love to talk about uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Last year we unveiled the new helmets, the Purple Rising helmets,

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Speaker 1: which were these fans were certainly excited about. Is there

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Speaker 1: anything on the horizon on the uniform front.

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Speaker 8: You know, nothing at this point to be announced. I

818
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 8: know people have asked me that I was asked yesterday

819
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Speaker 8: by the media, But it's always exciting to think about.

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Speaker 9: Reality is we have just a super closet.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think our all black uniforms are probably

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Speaker 8: the best uniforms in the league, not to knock the

823
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Speaker 8: purple white and the new Purple. So we like all

824
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Speaker 8: of our variations and really excited to roll out some

825
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Speaker 8: of the work that was done by Brad Downs and

826
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Speaker 8: our marketing team and Kenko who runs our equipment staff.

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Speaker 8: They've been working on a few things to come up

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Speaker 8: with that color combination with the all purple, which was

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Speaker 8: rolled out beautifully in the win against Cincinnati, and.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, Slash you just you just wrapped up your third

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Speaker 1: season as team president. What are the biggest takeaways that

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Speaker 1: you've had in these first three seasons and what has

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Speaker 1: you excited about the future.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I have my open and press conference.

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Speaker 8: I talked about humbling seeing, you know, one of my

836
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Speaker 8: mentors and Dick casts sitting with me as he you know,

837
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Speaker 8: moved on into quasi retirement. We keep Dick busy still

838
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Speaker 8: on occasion. Loved to see him coming to practice and

839
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Speaker 8: hanging around the facility and helping us out on strategic initiatives.

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Speaker 8: But humbling was the word that I described it then,

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Speaker 8: And still humbling, you know. I go into every day

842
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Speaker 8: with the mentality of trying to make us better and

843
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Speaker 8: make sure that I'm leading alongside John and Steve and

844
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Speaker 8: Eric and Ozzie and the rest of the crew. We've

845
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Speaker 8: got a fantastic team of fantastic people. We're in very

846
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Speaker 8: much service to our fan base and to our community.

847
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Speaker 8: And so, you know, I love the job, love the franchise,

848
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Speaker 8: love the city.

849
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Speaker 9: Love the people. I couldn't ask for more.

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Speaker 8: Really excited every day and every day is different. We

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Speaker 8: have a lot of important, exciting projects that have taken

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Speaker 8: place over these three years and made a lot of

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Speaker 8: progress on each of those.

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Speaker 9: So the future is bright, very thankful.

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Speaker 8: We've I think we've got the best ownership group in

856
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Speaker 8: the league with Stephen Renee and so you know, we

857
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Speaker 8: got John extended. You know, things are really really great

858
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Speaker 8: right now and I'm happy to play.

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Speaker 9: My small part of that.

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Speaker 6: It's good time to be a Ravens fan. That's it awesome, Sahi,

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Speaker 6: thank you so much.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That was Ravens President Sashi Brown.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Lounge podcast and we are coming

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Speaker 1: So in the conversation which Sash, she covered some of

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Speaker 1: the big things that are happening with this team right now.

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Speaker 1: Renovations at MPTY Bay Stadium, renovations at the under Own

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Speaker 1: Performance Center, and I think it's just going to continue

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Speaker 1: to make the stadium specifically, like the Ravens are investing

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Speaker 1: in that game day experience. We talked with Judy Batista

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Speaker 1: yesterday on the podcast about just how great a game

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Speaker 1: day atmosphere that is. The Ravens want that to continue,

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Speaker 1: and so these renovations are going to help.

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Speaker 7: Out that now absolutely. And you know, just like there's

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Speaker 7: competition on the field, there's competition.

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Speaker 9: Off the field.

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Speaker 7: I mean, so many teams are building new stadiums and

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Speaker 7: making renovations, and every team wants their fans to come

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Speaker 7: out obviously and support the team, you know, and the

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Speaker 7: Ravens I think are continuing to stay a step ahead

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Speaker 7: of the competition as far as making changes that make

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Speaker 7: it even more attractive and more fun to come to

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Speaker 7: M and T. It's a stadium that you know, over

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Speaker 7: the years, I mean when you look at M and

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Speaker 7: T Banks Stadium, it does it looks like, you know,

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Speaker 7: one of the brand new stadium. It doesn't look like

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Speaker 7: a stadium that has been along around as laws it has.

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Speaker 7: There's always new things every year now in the land

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Speaker 7: next two to three years, you're going to see new

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Speaker 7: things not only inside the stadium but around the stadium

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Speaker 7: to make the atmosphere more like a party atmosphere. And

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Speaker 7: when you can buy the passion of the Ravens fans

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Speaker 7: with a good team with that venue, it just makes

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Speaker 7: it the place to be. I mean, I love it,

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Speaker 7: especially night games and M and T. There's really no

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Speaker 7: other experience like we go other places, but the buzz,

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Speaker 7: even before its opening kickoff, is just one of my

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Speaker 7: favorite parts of going to M and T Bank Stadium.

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Speaker 7: And that's something the Ravens and everyone who works for them,

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Speaker 7: they're actively making that happen. It doesn't just come together

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Speaker 7: by accident. That a lot of people working hard behind

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Speaker 7: the scenes and make it happen, and a Sashi said

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Speaker 7: he appreciates those efforts and that's going to continue.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite, asked him about uniforms. What is your

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Speaker 1: number one on your list? What's your what's your favorite uni?

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Speaker 7: Well, it used to be in the white purple combination,

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Speaker 7: but I think the all the All Black I think

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Speaker 7: that might be my favorite.

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Speaker 2: She mentioned that too. Yeah, that's that one that seems

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Speaker 2: like that's the fan favorite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean to me, it's just you see Derek Henry

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Speaker 7: and All Black. I think he's gonna take it to

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Speaker 7: the house, like every play.

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Speaker 1: Well, what did they were in the All Black set

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Speaker 1: against in Buffalo when he did that? What first play

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Speaker 1: of the games? Secont play of the game, so it

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Speaker 1: worked out pretty well there, absolutely so I also liked

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Speaker 1: I like the purple with alternate helmet helmet Purple Rising uniforms.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of those two. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's exciting to talk to uniforms and all these other

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Speaker 1: things that are happening. So as always, we love hearing

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Speaker 1: from you, the fans, the listeners, the viewers. You can

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Speaker 1: email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot

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Speaker 1: net let us know your thoughts, your questions that you

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Speaker 1: have coming out of these meetings. Has been a productive

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Speaker 1: few days, like I mentioned here in Florida, and the

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Speaker 1: meetings have wrapped up and then we're gonna be heading home.

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Speaker 1: But a good few days here, and thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for watching and for listening.