WEBVTT - New AEW Deal With Shane McMahon 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.880 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:06.720 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:16.560 By from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.960 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.759 Brian Alvarez and Mike sempervb. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.400 Are you ready? For you ready? 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:26.600 Let's get it all. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:34.000 How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.600 We are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.720 three Eastern Sunday, three Pacific six Eastern Saturday mornings with 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.400 Jim Valley, Tenday in Pacific one Eastern Sundays with andrews Arian. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.720 And it's Thursday here on the show. And you know 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:51.879 that means we have a TV deal announced. Man, we 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.800 were talking about this yesterday. I did a big free 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.720 show yesterday previewing this and by the time everybody listened, 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.280 it was outdated because the deal was announced pretty much 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.080 right after we went off the air yesterday. So we'll 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:08.680 tell you what aw got and what this means and 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:13.760 plenty more. 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Before we get 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:23.279 to the wrestling news, tonight is after Dark Radio. Every Thursday, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.360 there's an After Dark and I'm gonna be opening up 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:30.880 the show. I went to the Skadget County Sasquatch something 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.800 or other this weekend in Mount Vernon and there we 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.840 was scheduled to be some speakers, and the speakers no 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.800 showed And then it's like a tiny little out in 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.279 the middle of nowhere. There's like thirty people in the 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.520 camp and the fairgrounds. It's like nobody knew where the 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.200 speakers were supposed to be. So I wander into this 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.840 building and there's a fellow there who's gonna replace the 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.560 actual speakers. Tom Cantrell is his name, and he's like 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.080 a bigfoot investigator, and like nobody else showed up. So 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:04.960 for two hours I got a private presentation. He showed 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.479 me all these big foot pictures on his computer. I mean, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.360 it's pretty cool. So I'm gonna talk about this tonight 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.680 because this guy makes some really good points. And you know, 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.800 it's coincidental that I bring it up for After Dark 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.720 Radio tonight, because all over today I'm talking. It's in 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.600 the New York Post. It's on TMZ. There's a new 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:30.160 Bigfoot video. Okay, have you guys seen this? I'll talk 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.920 about it more tonight, but suffice to say I don't 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.360 buy it for a second. Okay, but it's like all 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.320 over the place today. So anyway, what I saw in 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.480 this guy's computer was way better than this alleged Bigfoot 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.280 video on TMZ and new. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.080 Hopefully stuff on that guy's computer. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.640 Come on, Mike, can you be a professional for once? 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:51.760 Now? 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.440 That, by the way, is available for subscribers Wrestlingobserver dot 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.440 com as well as YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcast if 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.000 you would like to subscribe and get a new after 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:06.360 Dark Radio every week. Bigfoot and UFOs is the topic tonight, 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:08.640 which I would say is more interesting than we got 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.840 to talk about today. But actually there is big news 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.320 as yesterday immediately after the show went off the air, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:21.080 of course, classic timing, we have got the announcement of 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:26.920 the new television deal AW and Warner Brothers officially announced 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:31.440 a multi year renewal on Thursday that will keep Dynamite 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:36.840 and Collision on TBS and TNT respectively, and a streaming 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.640 component on Max. You know, yesterday on Observer Radio, Dave 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.120 wanted to gloat and I just didn't want to hear it. Yes, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.480 but he did it anyway. Well, I'm not going to 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.920 gloat here, okay, but I am going to point something 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:52.079 out as I read this. Dynamite and Collision will remain 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:56.760 in their current homes and networks on both Wednesday and Saturday. Okay, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.360 we knew that here's rampage is done, by the way, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.040 which we also had talked about yesterday, Rampage is done. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:09.040 Both Dynamite and Collision will stream live on Max if 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.000 you are a US subscriber of Max, and I'm wondering 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.839 what they're gonna do in terms of commercials, like are 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.920 you going to get the commercial free version if you 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.920 pay for Max? I guess we'll find out. Aw content 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.880 that errors on any WBD network will also be able 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:30.199 to stream on Max on demand. It is quite likely 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.720 that if you want to go back to the beginning 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.920 and watch every episode of Dynamite, you're going to be 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:41.320 able to do that. And now I don't think that 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:45.000 guy is on Twitch anymore. Maybe he's been r U 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:51.000 nnoft as they say. But starting later in twenty twenty five, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.080 AW and WBD will offer live pay per views on 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.720 Max at a discounted price per event, with all marketing 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.000 and of those pay per view events exclusively centered on Max. 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.480 Why do I bring this up because I try to 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:12.200 tell you for months and months and months that Max 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:16.600 wasn't capable of doing pay per views yet. And I 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.520 had certain people in particular that were like, yes they can, Yes, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.200 they can. I watch live things. I said, I'm not 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.680 talking about live sports. I'm talking about pay per view. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.000 They don't have the capability to do that. I was told, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.640 yes they do. Oh, it's easy. Oh, I could set 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.360 it up. That's the one I heard. I could set 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.120 it up, have Max hire me, I could get them on. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:41.600 Well anyway, they're not ready yet, but it's being worked 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:45.920 on and midway sometime in twenty twenty five, when they can, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.080 they will offer the pay per views on Max. The 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:56.400 deal is, according to Dave Meltzer, five hundred and fifty 0:10:56.400 --> 0:11:01.120 five million over three years. Now, as far as what 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.720 exactly that means, and this is a key point to 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:11.560 this here, Okay, everything is fine for at least three years. Okay, 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:17.680 they are locked in for three years, then there are 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:23.319 I believe two option years. Okay, if they are picked 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.480 up in those two option years, the number goes up. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.680 So the one hundred and eighty five million that everybody 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.040 is seeing that is the average over five years if 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:37.400 they're picked up. I think the actual number is probably 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.120 around I don't know, one hundred and seventy five hundred 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.319 and eighty million for the first three years and then 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.839 around two hundred million for the next two years after that. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:51.120 But those are option years. Okay, So yes, everything is 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.400 great right now, but the key is this thing needs 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.839 to stay steady. This thing needs to build. This thing 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.040 cannot collapse because if it does collapse, it's going to 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.440 be a rough go three years from now when the 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.840 decision is made, do we pick them up for even 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.080 more money for these two option years. But for now, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.800 for the remaining or for the first three years here, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.480 they're making a lot of money, a lot of money, 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.719 and things are good. So yeah, I think I think 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.360 the old deal was about ninety So yeah, they doubled 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.560 more than doubled if they get into the fourth and 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:31.240 fifth year. So you know, I talked about this couple 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:36.079 of days ago. Yes, up until yesterday, the eighteen to 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.960 forty nine where they ranked on the cable charts, very 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.679 very important. Okay, in two years that's going to be 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.880 very very important again. But they are locked in for 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.960 three years. So to me, what is important right now 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:54.439 is get more people watching the show one way or 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.640 the other. I want to see the numbers going up. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:12:59.120 So that's the story. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.800 It's nice to have a friend like David Zaslov. Like 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.040 you said, WWE for years with Bonnie Hammer was a 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.280 very important part of being a advocate for them. And 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:16.880 obviously Tony Kahan has worked very closely with David Zaslov 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.320 and has done everything he could to you know, put 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.360 themselves in good graces and have Shark Week and do 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:25.760 all of those sorts of things. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.839 Oh, let me jump in very quickly. They can continue. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.160 I'm sorry. It is a four year deal. It is 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.800 three guaranteed years and one option year, not two option years. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:38.040 So I apologize, and you know, it's it seems to 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.679 be good across the board for everybody. Obviously, as long 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.800 as you live in the United States. Everybody listening to 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.360 us in Canada right now, they couldn't care less about 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.640 any of this. But Dynamite and Collision airing Live on 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.960 Max not going to bring in a whole lot more 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.520 extra viewers or anything like that. But he gives you 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.160 an option if you're traveling and are away from your 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:00.280 area and can't access your provider for whatever reason. Plus 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.839 it's great for people who are on the West Coast 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.199 who want to watch the show live. They don't want 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.199 to wait and be spoiled by anything that happens. Now 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.160 they have that opportunity pay per Views eventually migrating over 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.680 there at a discounted rate. Since you're already going to 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.320 be paying for HBO Max anyway, it only makes sense 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.160 for them to offer you a discounted rate. And it 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:26.120 gives every other cable operator out there which WBD needs. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.080 It's not like you hear about WBD doing what ESPN 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.840 wants to do and break off and eventually, you know, 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.320 see the destruction of all cable operators and be their 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:40.920 own entity. They still need cable operators and Payperview dot Com, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.000 which is owned by cable operators, needs content to put 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.520 out there, So AW being an option for them, you know, 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.520 that is important, and I would assume it's still going 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.120 to be available on Triller TV as well as places 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.440 like YouTube TV. Rampage going away is a good thing 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.880 I think for everybody. If that gets replaced by a 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.480 AW shockwave on a different network, we can cross that 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.120 bridge when it comes. But across the board with the 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.800 library being added to HBO Max, it's a winner for 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.880 AW as far as financials go, it seems like it's 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.040 a winner for fans in the United States who are 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.800 fans of the product. And that's pretty much that. And 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.880 as you mentioned, the ratings do need to increase because 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.000 they need to create stars and get people watching again 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.360 and make it musty TV again for themselves. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.600 All right, So I should mention, by the way, since 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.680 somebody brought up where is one bill? Phil, I did 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.120 tell you guys, it wasn't billion dollars a long long 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:45.560 time ago, did I not? Okay, I have an announcement 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.400 to make now back in a moment Observer Live. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.720 You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:23.080 and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.040 In the show, Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:30.000 Mike smber vv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Should note 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.680 the next segment we will be joined by Max smash Master. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.720 You heard me, Max smash Master will be joining us 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.040 here on the show. We got a lot to talk 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.080 about with him today, so let's get this news going. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.800 Sammy Gevarro was injured at the Ring of Honor tapings. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.520 Actually Kelly Madden was as well. Both of them stretchered out, 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.520 and I don't have an update on Kelly, but I 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.880 was told that Sammy likely suffered a concussion but seemed 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.360 to be okay later in terms of you know, he's 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.200 headed to the hospital in the ICU or anything. It's 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.439 never good when you get a concussion, but multiple people 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.479 told me that he seemed okay. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.560 Was the was the word? 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:19.200 The uh show itself in two and a half hours. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.040 It's a long show, and I think I need to 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:26.879 talk about at least three things first. And I don't know. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.760 I don't know what's going on, Okay, So this Blackpool 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:38.160 Combat Club deal, so John Moxley has been speaking in riddles, okay, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.280 And they did a segment early and then they came 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.640 out after the main event and they're setting up John 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.920 Moxley and Brian Danielson and John Moxley does his promo 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.120 and he says, none of this is about me, none 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.399 of this is what I wanted. I am fighting for 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.119 something much bigger than myself. If any of this was 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.920 about me, I'd have put you out of your misery 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:08.800 years ago. And then EXCaliber said, who is forcing Moxley's 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:15.440 hand in this? Okay? So this has led to all 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:22.720 sorts of speculation that Shane McMahon is behind all of this. Okay. Now, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.240 this is what I can tell you. I can't tell 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.800 you he's not. Okay, but you know, there was this 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:37.120 Shane McMahon meeting with with Tony Kahan that got captured surreptitiously. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:43.840 There was the meeting Shane happened to run into Mercedes 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.720 Mone Mercedes did an interview like yesterday saying I hope 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.879 Shane McMahon comes to AW. The Young Bucks just happened 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.760 to be on an airplane with him, and so like 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.960 everybody is just they're all running with it. Okay. Now, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:00.760 I am not gonna say year and tell you that 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:04.800 Shane McMahon is not going to AW. Okay, I don't 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:10.439 know that, but I do not believe that there is 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:15.639 any deal done between Shane McMahon and AW. I believe, 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:21.639 I believe one hundred percent, okay, that the Young Bucks 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.280 and Shane McMahon meeting was a coincidence. I believe one 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.000 hundred percent the Shane McMahon Mercedes meeting was a coincidence. 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.879 I have had people insist to me that the Shane 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:37.919 McMahon and Tony Kahan picture was leaked, okay, and that 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.600 they didn't mean it for it to get out. So 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:47.520 Number one, I don't think they're shooting an angle that 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.920 they are present that like the plan is for Shane 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.199 McMahon to be involved when Shane McMahon does not have 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.520 a deal with this company. I don't believe that, Okay. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:02.159 The other thing is like, just from a fan standpoint, 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.399 have you been watching these Blackpool Combat Club videos and 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:11.280 angles and everything, and have you seen like Shane McMahon's character, 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:16.399 How would these things fit together? How? I mean, I 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.760 don't buy it for a second. I don't know if 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.280 ex Caliber was told to say that line. I don't 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.160 know if he just said it from listening to moxing 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.960 what he was saying. But I don't think that Shane 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.560 McMahon is behind this brand new Blackpool Combat Club. Hey, listen, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:33.480 I didn't think he was coming back like eight years 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.479 ago or whatever to WWE, and he did but I 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.560 don't think that's what's going on here. I guess we'll see. 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.640 Why can't you see it with Shane McMahon's character, considering 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.480 he fancies himself a fighter, you know, with the. 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.600 Quick his character is like the rich kid. He does 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.879 a silly dance, he goes back and forth like that. 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:58.000 I mean, come on, you're remembering the mean street posse 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.200 version of Shane. But since that time, I. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.960 Mean comes out to the music and dances every time. 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.800 Yes, he does, of course he does. Hector Macho Camacho 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.680 would do that as well too. People come out and 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.000 dance during their entrances before their fights. But this is 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.640 the guy that pushed Raw underground. This is the guy 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.600 that wanted to buy Pride. This was the guy that 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:22.040 was interested in buying UFC and doing all of this 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:27.000 stuff so to have a dark force of Moxley to 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.280 be the leader of a group. I'm not saying that 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.760 I'm endorsing it or I think it's going to happen, 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.399 but I think you can portray Shane in that form. 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:40.800 Now he's a comic book character, he's a cartoon Well, 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.840 this BCC is like serious, deadly serious. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.440 Yes, Well, if Shane McMahon wearing all black as the benefactor, 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.919 and we find out later on that the interview, you know, 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.120 he tried to be nice to Tony Kahan and then 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.359 he let the information out and that's the problem with 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.160 this company, and you know what, we need to bring 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.600 this back. That's why this thing needs to be fixed. 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.200 And maybe that's why Moxley was nice to Jack Perry 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:05.840 and didn't beat up the Young Bucks. Remember he walked 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.600 by them, and maybe that would give a reason for 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.760 the Young Bucks being vice presidents to actually have some 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.719 gravity to it. So it's a lot of fantasy booking, 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.360 but as far as putting him in and inserting him 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.680 into something with Moxley or a group, I could. 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.440 See that that can happen. 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:23.360 I don't think. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:23.600 So. 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.480 We had will Ospray and Ricochet for the international title, 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.760 and like the match itself, it was funny because they 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:35.560 used to work differently than they both work now, like 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:40.640 six seven years ago, but the fans wanted a match 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:42.720 between the two of them from six and seven years ago, 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:44.760 so that's what they did. It was like a video game, 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.360 all sorts of nuttiness and crazy high spots. And then 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:50.520 I did not like thing with this show is I 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.719 didn't like some of the finishes on this show. So 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.919 the match is like great, and then they do the 0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:00.400 double pin finish. Ospray hits the hidden Blade falls on top, 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.080 but both of their shoulders are down, and so it's 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.960 ruled a draw, and the fans are furious. But listen, hey, 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:10.439 sometimes you need to do a draw. Okay. So I 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.640 would have ended it there. I would have had both 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.119 guys want five more minutes and then Takesha comes in 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.439 kills them and like there's heat on Takesha for ruining this. 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:22.280 But instead they wanted more time, and so the Tony 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:26.760 Kahan character said, this match will continue. So as soon 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.120 as you do that, now you're kind of telling the fans, okay, 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:30.920 you are going to get a finish, like we gave 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.359 you a non finish, but this match must continue, so 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.560 you're gonna get a finish. Wait, went about ninety seconds 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.320 and then Kesh runs in and now we got. 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:38.560 A d Q. 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.159