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Speaker 1: He will save, He will rejoice over thee with joy.

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Speaker 1: He will rest in his love. He will joy over

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Speaker 1: thee with singing. Zephyniah three seventeen. O Lord, my God,

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Speaker 1: you are in the midst of my life. You are

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Speaker 1: the victorious warrior who has come to save me and

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Speaker 1: exalt over me with joy. You calm all my fears

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Speaker 1: with your love and refresh me with your word. You

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Speaker 1: delight over me and croon love songs over me in

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Speaker 1: the night season. And your tender love and compassion you

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Speaker 1: gave me a new life and call me your own.

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Speaker 1: You take my hand and lead me in the way

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Speaker 1: I should go. You have taken away my punishment and

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Speaker 1: embrace me with your love. As I delight in you,

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to today's Daily Prayer. For more

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Speaker 1: inspiration and an incredible message from our feature pastor, stay

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Speaker 1: tuned to pray dot COM's Sunday service.

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Speaker 3: Well, good evening, I'm Alan Jackson. Welcome to Nashville, which

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Speaker 3: is best known as the country music capital. There's also

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Speaker 3: plenty of good music and great food to enjoy while

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Speaker 4: And over the years, I.

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Speaker 3: Have met so many talented people, not just from the

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Speaker 3: music world, but from all walks of life. That said,

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Speaker 3: our guest tonight was the first famous person I met

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Speaker 3: from the car and truck world. I'd seen his name before,

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Speaker 3: the brand. Berry maguire, Welcome to our show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. I finally Lauren, you could take me now.

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Speaker 4: I finally made it on your stage last night and

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Speaker 4: hearing today and so I live at large.

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Speaker 5: We are honored to have you.

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Speaker 3: For those of you who might not know, Barry is

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Speaker 3: the president of McGuire's car Wax. It's the number one

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Speaker 3: car wax product in the country. You know, guys at

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Speaker 3: Barry's also the host of the TV show Car Crazy,

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Speaker 3: and he also has another side to his life.

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Speaker 5: We're going to explore it a bit.

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Speaker 3: He's the founder and president of Ignite America and the

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Speaker 3: author of a new book, Ignites Your Life.

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Speaker 5: It's nice to see you again, sir. Awesome, awesome.

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Speaker 4: Every time we get to chance Tugg and go so

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Speaker 4: fast because we are soulmates. I mean, we both have

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Speaker 4: this patient for souls. And now you're reaching millions, I

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Speaker 4: mean tens of ages every day. I mean, can you

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Speaker 4: believe where your ministry is?

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Speaker 3: Well, technology is an amazing multiplier. It's incredible, it really is.

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Speaker 3: You said something a recent podcast. You said that you

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Speaker 3: often listened to several sermons even on a Sunday morning

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Speaker 3: before you.

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Speaker 5: Go to church for a live Yes.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm a junkie man, and you know the great voices,

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Speaker 4: and so I get up and I've got my repertoire

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Speaker 4: get to church. I was saying, how many sermons have

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Speaker 4: I listened to? Last Sunday? Okay, last Sunday? I was

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Speaker 4: taking prolific notes. I mean it was a great sermon,

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Speaker 4: and in the middle of it, I digressed for a moment.

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Speaker 4: How many thousands of sermons? How many thousands of sermons

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Speaker 5: For fifty years? I've been taking notes.

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Speaker 4: Because you remember, folks, You remember sermons a lot better

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Speaker 4: if you take notes on them, and you use those

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Speaker 4: eighty years later, ten thousands sermons later, I'm learning we

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Speaker 4: can't learn the majesty of God. I mean as close

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Speaker 3: Our faith is not a hobby where we master a

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Speaker 5: It's that dynamic.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't have any excuse I have. It goes

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Speaker 4: Frank mcgu started our maguire's Carwacks family business nineteen o one.

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Speaker 4: I have his book on systematic theology on my desk.

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Speaker 4: My mother's parents were both pioneer preachers in Texas back

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Speaker 4: just I had it all. But all that, having said,

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Speaker 5: There's no joy in living in fear without it. With fear, you.

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Speaker 4: You know, John fifty eleven, might joy be with you?

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Speaker 4: You're joey before. I mean, those are great promises, but

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Speaker 4: sharing experiences. He never mentioned Reagan, and he was laughing

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Speaker 4: doing it poorly, And and first of all, it took

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Speaker 4: for all evangels and programs. I've led millions to the Lord.

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Speaker 4: I didn't do well with him getting this points down.

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Speaker 4: And then I read the scriptures. Whateverle scripture I'd read

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Speaker 5: Well, now I can do that.

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Speaker 4: So we decided we're gonna start loving everybody all day long.

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Speaker 5: Love flowing through you. I'm convinced. Now this is my theology.

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Speaker 4: I think it's true God's love, and I just love it.

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Speaker 4: It's salvation, but he loves us. He's salvationing us. He's

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Speaker 4: That's everything about God has bring us to him salvation.

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Speaker 4: he's salvationing others through us. That means we don't have

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Speaker 4: secular conversations. There's nothing in our lives it's secular. Everything

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Speaker 4: Realize that everything we say and do all day long

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Speaker 4: And that goes back to loving God and loving your

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Speaker 4: if I love my neighbors myself, I'm as concerned for

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Speaker 5: It ignites us.

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Speaker 3: He goes, well, and we've talked about this. You have

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Speaker 3: we'll come back and talk about that. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: now with Barry Maguire.

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Speaker 3: He's a native of Paradise Valley, Arizona and a man

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Speaker 3: who's active in many ministries. You've spoken a lot about

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Speaker 3: the venture capital guy actually tried to throw you out

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Speaker 3: that you in your life were lost to addictions.

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Speaker 3: But we're back, and my guest is Barry Maguire. Barry,

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Speaker 4: You spray it and wipe it. You'll keep your car

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Speaker 5: I want to thank you.

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Speaker 3: You have reminded all of us that in the midst

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, amazing, thank you, greatly honored.

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Speaker 3: I hope you'll come back again. We want to hear

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Speaker 5: I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: tuned we're going to read some of your emails.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Eric My Texas Show. It's a nutritious

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Speaker 7: Here comes Eric My Texas. Welcome back, folkus.

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Speaker 8: It is now my joy to speak to my friend

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Speaker 8: Berry McGuire. Berry, welcome back to this program. You're always

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. We've been doing this for a

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Speaker 4: Fifteen years ago or something that or we've been doing

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Speaker 8: That's not possible because we've been doing the show for

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Speaker 4: It really when the Million Man March was on in DC,

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Speaker 4: You're my hero and bon Hoff for all the books

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Speaker 4: are great, but your your letter of the American Church,

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Speaker 4: to me, is still the quintessential book that pastors and

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Speaker 8: You know what I said, you know what I've been

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Speaker 8: to die, and God parts the Red Sea and we go, Okay,

438
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Speaker 8: we're done.

439
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Speaker 7: You're like, excuse me.

440
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Speaker 8: Now you have to run through the parted Red Sea.

441
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Speaker 8: You got to get off your rear end. Yes, say

442
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Speaker 8: well we're done. No no, no, no, no. Now God has

443
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Speaker 8: done his job. Now you've got to do your job.

444
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Speaker 8: You're going to do your job. And listen, there are

445
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Speaker 8: many people listening to this program that have not read

446
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Speaker 8: my book, A Letter to the American Church, and there

447
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Speaker 8: are a lot of Christians in America that are not

448
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Speaker 8: on this page.

449
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Speaker 7: So we've got to keep banging the drum.

450
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Speaker 8: And so I want to, of course talk to you

451
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Speaker 8: about what you're doing in your new book. You've you've

452
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Speaker 8: started this movement you call it. Well, the website is

453
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Speaker 8: ignite America dot com, Ignite America doctor. So people who

454
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Speaker 8: don't know you, yes, even before I get into that though,

455
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Speaker 8: I should say, some people know the name McGuire because

456
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Speaker 8: your family for well over one hundred years. Yeah, been

457
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Speaker 8: in the car wax, isn't it McGuire harwackxres.

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Speaker 4: Since McGuire's but yes, since nineteen oh one. My granddad

459
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Speaker 4: was a Christian and he prayed, and it's a long story.

460
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Speaker 4: It's a God's story of a you know, a very

461
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Speaker 4: poor American family and trusting God. And it's it's amazing

462
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Speaker 4: just what you could do in America. Anybody can do it,

463
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Speaker 4: particularly when you're following God's lead.

464
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Speaker 5: And he did that.

465
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Speaker 4: And I had my parents on both sides of my family.

466
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Speaker 4: My grandparents were godly, godly people. My mother's well, my

467
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Speaker 4: dad were pioneer preachers in West Texas and mit churches

468
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Speaker 4: all over the United States. So I have no excuse

469
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Speaker 4: I have heritage coming down on me. I've been taught

470
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Speaker 4: well and so I had an early start, and you know,

471
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Speaker 4: so I've been doing for a lot of years. Karen.

472
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Speaker 4: I've been sharing our faith every day since we started

473
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Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy three. Okay, so it's fifty years of

474
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Speaker 4: sharing our faith there every day people say, you're eighty

475
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Speaker 4: years old, How can you have some excite?

476
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Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?

477
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Speaker 4: We get to share a freak air cree jame with people.

478
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Speaker 4: And when you do that, it ignites your life. And

479
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Speaker 4: that's the title of my book that I brought out. Yeah,

480
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Speaker 4: gratuitous promotion of the book, but.

481
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Speaker 7: There's nothing gratuitous about it.

482
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Speaker 8: It's why you're on the program because I want people

483
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Speaker 8: to know your story. And the book is Ignite your Life,

484
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Speaker 8: Ignite your Life, and the website is ignite America dot com.

485
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Speaker 8: Now you bury, so people know your story. So your

486
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Speaker 8: family was in this business literally one hundred and twenty years.

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Speaker 7: Ago, starting to Grand Flight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and one.

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Speaker 7: Hundred and twenty four years ago.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's an amazing story how that it was

491
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Speaker 8: a furniture wax and that they would use it on

492
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Speaker 8: the carriages, the horseless carriages and then of course cars

493
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Speaker 8: that needed it whatever, and so it becomes this business

494
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Speaker 8: and you you are the quintessential car guy you go

495
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Speaker 8: to car shows. You've shared your faith because because people

496
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Speaker 8: know you as this quint essential car guy.

497
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Speaker 7: But you brought your faith into that environment.

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Speaker 4: Well, I really did you know? I was sharing care

499
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Speaker 4: and I were taught early on, so I mean, without

500
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Speaker 4: going into all that, but we were sharing our faith

501
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Speaker 4: and having so much fun that even though God inspired

502
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Speaker 4: me to go retail, we threw off the years we

503
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Speaker 4: buffed cars and body shops and leaderships. I was really

504
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Speaker 4: good with a machine polisher and filthy dirty body shops.

505
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Speaker 4: I'm buffing a car and making it look like a jewel.

506
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Speaker 4: That's what we did all our company life. And then

507
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Speaker 4: God inspired me to go retail. And I said to God,

508
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Speaker 4: you know my favorite church are already is Proverbs three five.

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Speaker 4: Trust the lower of your whole heart, and don't depend

510
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Speaker 4: on your own understanding us. And for me it's easy.

511
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Speaker 4: I have no understanding of the retail market. I don't

512
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Speaker 4: have a clue, So trust you have a whole hearted me.

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Speaker 5: Be easy for me.

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Speaker 4: But same time, I'm sharing my faith and as He's

515
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Speaker 4: working miracles starting and launched. We were actually launched in

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Speaker 4: the retail nineteen seventy three, and we're now the biggest

517
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Speaker 4: brand in the whole business. But we launched in seventy three,

518
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Speaker 4: nobody knew who were But we're also sharing our faith

519
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Speaker 4: prolifically in nineteen seventy three, to the point that by

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Speaker 4: nineteen seventy six, I thought God is going to lead

521
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Speaker 4: me into full time ministry and leave my family business.

522
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Speaker 4: I'm the third generation leader. There's nobody else to lead

523
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Speaker 4: the business. We had about twelve people are about doing

524
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Speaker 4: about six hundred thousand dollars a year in business, and

525
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Speaker 4: so I prayed them with further prayer of my life.

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Speaker 4: I've told you this story before, but I just say, God,

527
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Speaker 4: what do you want me to do? I'm gonna go

528
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Speaker 4: ministry or business, and You're going to have to almost

529
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Speaker 4: speak to me in an auto voice. So no, for sure,

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Speaker 4: I just want to be where you want me to be.

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Speaker 4: And about twenty minutes later, he said, a guy by

532
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Speaker 4: the name of David nut into my office. And I

533
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Speaker 4: had never met him before, or I knew him from church.

534
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Speaker 4: I knew he's a missionary kid. We never had any

535
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Speaker 4: we didn't even exchange a glance. And here he is

536
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Speaker 4: in my office and asking me questions, and I'm talking

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Speaker 4: about sharing my faith that he says, God's given me

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Speaker 4: a wonderful ministry here, hadn't he? And I said, why

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Speaker 4: would you say after I just prayed this prayer, not

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Speaker 4: twenty minutes before?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: He said, what's obvious. The pastor can't reach the people

543
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Speaker 4: you're reaching, folks, he's talking to all of us. Pastor

544
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: can't reach the people you're reaching. But as a businessman

545
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Speaker 4: you can. It's obvious that your business is your pulpit.

546
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Speaker 4: And our cried a few days. Wherever you are, that's

547
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Speaker 4: your pulpit. You're in full time ministry. You can't get

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Speaker 4: away from it. I got tell you something right now,

549
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Speaker 4: and you can't get away from the rest of your life.

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Speaker 4: Everything you say and do for now until you see

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Speaker 4: him face and faces moving, everybody watching you closer or

552
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Speaker 4: further away from God. Everything from what you laugh at

553
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Speaker 4: that you shouldn't be laughing at, what you look at,

554
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Speaker 4: what you're indulging in the language that comes out of

555
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Speaker 4: your mouth. What happens when you're excited all that we're

556
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 4: a whole package. And when you recognize that, you realize

557
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 4: you're in full time ministry, it changes you and you

558
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Speaker 4: do it not out of legalism, but you do it

559
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Speaker 4: out of joy because you have an opportunity to represent

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Speaker 4: God seriously. At this moment in time, God's given us

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Speaker 4: us gift to four years, hopefully hopefully four years. We

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Speaker 4: need to be running this race that Eric has flowed

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Speaker 4: out for us. So clearly the church. But if you listening,

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Speaker 4: it's just a Christian. This is what God's called us

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Speaker 4: to do. And my business is nothing. Is I just

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Speaker 4: I didn't make it my pulpit. It's not my eye

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Speaker 4: shine for Jesus. It doesn't matter how many bottles of

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Speaker 4: car we're actually gonna sell. That won't be mentioned in heaven.

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Speaker 4: What will be mentioned is how many people are in

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Speaker 4: heaven because of my influence or are because of your influence.

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Speaker 4: Nothing else matters. Nothing. Everything you do today will have

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Speaker 4: meaning mean lessen heaven, except for those that you pushed

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Speaker 4: a little closer to Jesus.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's see, that's I mean.

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Speaker 8: It's the reason I love you is because you get

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Speaker 8: this that This is not we're not talking about being

577
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Speaker 8: religious folks. We're living your whole life in accordance with

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Speaker 8: God's will. And of course if you do that, it

579
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Speaker 8: affects everything. It doesn't just affect politics or where you

580
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Speaker 8: go to church. It affects everything, and so how you

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Speaker 8: live your life in the business world, you know, on

582
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Speaker 8: the soccer field, whatever it all is. Speaking of what

583
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Speaker 8: you actually believe. And if you actually believe Jesus is

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Speaker 8: Lord and loves you and died for you and wants

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Speaker 8: you to be with him in heaven forever. If you

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Speaker 8: really understand that, not just in some religious way, but

587
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Speaker 8: you really know it's true, it cannot help but change you.

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Speaker 8: And I think the first thing that happened to me,

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Speaker 8: I mean, I remember when I had my conversion in

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Speaker 8: nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 7: I wanted everyone I have what I had because I.

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Speaker 8: Thought this is so wonderful. And I now know that

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Speaker 8: this is the answer. Everybody's looking for answers in life.

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Speaker 8: Life is hard. This is the ultimate answer. This is

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Speaker 8: going to lead you to all the other answers. And

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Speaker 8: you have this kind of joy of wanting to lead

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Speaker 8: people in that direction. And we're not all the same,

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Speaker 8: we're not all going to do it in the same way,

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Speaker 8: but understanding that that's God's.

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Speaker 7: Will for us, We're going to go to a break here.

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Speaker 8: But I want to remind you, folks, I'm talking to

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Speaker 8: my friend Barry McGuire. You may have heard of McGuire's

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Speaker 8: car wax. We just talked about that. But the website

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Speaker 8: is ignite America dot com. And I do think, Barry,

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Speaker 8: we're going to have national I think we're the beginning

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Speaker 8: of national revival.

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Speaker 7: Something is happening in America.

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Speaker 2: Work.

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Speaker 7: Yes, what you're saying is that this is what it's

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Speaker 7: all about.

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Speaker 8: This doesn't mean we have to be talking about Jesus

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Speaker 8: every second, but we have to be thinking about him

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Speaker 8: and thinking about what is his will for me in

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Speaker 8: this minute? Can I share him or something about him?

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Speaker 8: Can I lead somebody a little bit closer?

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Speaker 7: Capital Pe? So we'll be right back.

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Speaker 9: We're talking to Barry McGuire. Welcome back, folks, is here

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Speaker 9: from Texas Show.

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Speaker 8: I'm talking to my friend Barry McGuire, who is telling

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Speaker 8: us about something kind of important.

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Speaker 7: Barry, it's, uh, this is very important.

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Speaker 8: You have a book called Ignite your Life, and you've

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Speaker 8: you've just put out a book that's a devotional called

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Speaker 8: Live Ignited. Your daily nudge, is that what you call it?

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Speaker 4: That's that you know? We all know what the nudge is.

626
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Speaker 4: Everybody watch us right now. They know what the nudge is.

627
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Speaker 4: The nudge comes, it's the Holy Spirit. Folks, Bob just

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Speaker 4: found out he has cancer. I need to call.

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Speaker 5: Him, but I don't know what i'd say.

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Speaker 4: I you know, I'm sitting next to somebody who's not

631
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Speaker 4: a Christian and they're pouring with the heart to you.

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Speaker 4: Happens to all of us all the time. They're complaining.

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Speaker 4: They say, I should ask Barbara if she liked me

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Speaker 4: to pray. Well, she'd think I'm a fool. We have

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Speaker 4: all these having place on our website. Most frequent excuses.

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Speaker 4: There's about twelve different excuses we used to not share

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Speaker 4: a faith. But when you follow the nudge, you live

638
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Speaker 4: in the fog. You live in the favor of God.

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Speaker 4: When you follow the nudge, God's there. That's the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 4: And guess what, you don't have to prepare. It's not

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Speaker 4: what you've been told. We've all been told you got

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Speaker 4: to pray, you got to prepare, you got to memorize,

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Speaker 4: you got to recite it.

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Speaker 5: Stop it.

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Speaker 4: Birth. The Ardina Levis says, don't prepare. Luke trow Tras says,

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Speaker 4: let the Holy Spirit, the horse will give you the

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Speaker 4: words to say. And so when you're doing it, folks.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something you may never heard before.

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Speaker 4: But when you just love them, he says, don't know.

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Speaker 4: You might say, but bout your love, not by your

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Speaker 4: Bible smarts and memorization, and elected you just love on people. Everybody,

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Speaker 4: the person next to you, in line at Starbucks, or

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Speaker 4: in the isle at Walmart, or in the waiting room,

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Speaker 4: we're on the airplane, wherever you're at, people around your lost.

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Speaker 4: They're all lost. The opposite of love is not hate.

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Speaker 4: It's just people just don't care. They just they just

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Speaker 4: don't care that people are going going to hell, and

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Speaker 4: we need to care. And we're their only hope. They're

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Speaker 4: not going to church. Where are they going to go?

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Speaker 4: We're their only hope. Where I'd say where America's only hope.

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Speaker 4: We Christ's is not happening in the churches today. Eric's

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Speaker 4: got this great message and churches are popping up and

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Speaker 4: they do it, but we don't have enough. But we're

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Speaker 4: they You're surrounded by non Christians every day. And when

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Speaker 4: you share your faith, when you love on them, the

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Speaker 4: Holy Spirit uses you, folks, and you just rely on

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Speaker 4: him and he gives you the words to say. And

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Speaker 4: that's that's intimacy with God. Right when you're speaking, you

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Speaker 4: know that God has set this meeting up in the

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Speaker 4: walmart where we're at, and he's giving you the words

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Speaker 4: to say, and person's life is changing in front of you.

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Speaker 4: That's intimacy with God. And there's a wonderful scripture to

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Isaiah forty three ten. He says, here's why I

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Speaker 4: want you to share your faith. It's secondary to win

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Speaker 4: the lost. Secondary, it's primarily doing you Isaiah forty three.

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Speaker 4: Listen to it, Isaiah forty three ten. I point you

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Speaker 4: as my witness so that you believe, so you understand

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Speaker 4: and know and believe that I am God. This is

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Speaker 4: the fin out in that you know more. This is

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Speaker 4: when you know because you're representing your sphere.

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Speaker 8: This is such when you share this with me. A

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Speaker 8: couple of years ago, I thought, WHOA, this is such

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Speaker 8: a big point. So I don't want to glide over it.

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Speaker 8: What you're saying that that scripture it's Isaiah forty three,

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Speaker 8: forty three ten, and it says I've appointed you as

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Speaker 8: my witnesses so that you will believe.

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Speaker 2: You have believe.

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Speaker 4: Why do I why I have said fat? Why have

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Speaker 4: I not had fear in years. We don't. We fear

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Speaker 4: nothing because God's there and nothing can happen to me

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Speaker 4: unless God allows it. Why I you know, I've been

692
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Speaker 4: to the back, back to the wall in many places.

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Speaker 4: I was dying in the hospital. I lost my daughter, Nicole,

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Speaker 4: forty nine year old daughter.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's I mean, can you just say a

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Speaker 7: word about that?

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Speaker 8: Because that most people think, Oh, look at this guy,

698
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Speaker 8: successful businessman, yacking about Jesus. He's never had any real problem.

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Speaker 8: You and your sweet wife Karen, whom we love. You

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Speaker 8: guys lost your daughter. Yeah, that to me is the ultimate. Well,

701
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Speaker 8: how do you deal with that without Jesus in your life?

702
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Speaker 8: How do you deal with that?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: I held the service myself, means I knew half the

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Speaker 4: people there would not be saved their car, Guys that

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Speaker 4: loved Nicole and me. And we're saying, well, we used

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Speaker 4: to smile as he's smiling now. And I got out

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Speaker 4: there and I smiled. I wept, I still weave. Grieving

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Speaker 4: is good. The more we love, the more we grieve.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, she's in heaven. She's having a blast.

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Speaker 4: And if she's having a blast, why should I not

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Speaker 4: have a blast? You know, she's in heaven, and I

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Speaker 4: gave that message. You know, twenty thousand people have watched

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Speaker 4: the video of Nicole's funeral. Twenty thousand people. You don't

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Speaker 4: watch a video, you know. But God used that. And

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Speaker 4: here's let me just say this very quick. God's always there. Well,

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Speaker 4: he's always there. He promised that when you live for him,

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Speaker 4: he's always he's always is there, and he makes everything

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Speaker 4: work together for good Romans eight twenty eight that we

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Speaker 4: all know, but we don't pay that much sense to.

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Speaker 4: This is powerful. It might be the second most important

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Speaker 4: scripture in the entire Bible. He says, for now, until

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Speaker 4: you get to heaven, I promise you. Everybody's promising you.

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Speaker 4: This is personal. I promise you I'll make everything in

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Speaker 4: your life work together for good if you do two things.

726
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Speaker 4: You love me and you live your life for my purpose. Well,

727
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Speaker 4: what's his purpose? There's no argument his purposes. He came

728
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Speaker 4: to seek and save the loss. It really is going back.

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Speaker 4: What's the most important commandment?

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Speaker 2: Teacher?

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Speaker 4: And he says, love me and love your neighbor as yourself.

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Speaker 4: And when you do that, you fulfill everything I require

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Speaker 4: you for your entire life. Wait a minute, what about

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Speaker 4: the ten or the one hundred. No, No, you just

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Speaker 4: do it. Why because if I love my neighbor as

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Speaker 4: myself everybody around us, if you do this, folks, their

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Speaker 4: salvation is as important as yours. And at that point,

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Speaker 4: everything I do, I want to make sure I get

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Speaker 4: them to Heaven.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to.

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Speaker 4: Mess around and doing stuff and watch my language and

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Speaker 4: indulgence as a due. I am going to love on

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Speaker 4: them by everything I do, and it changes me. And

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Speaker 4: that's when he says, when you do that, you fulfill

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Speaker 4: the entire law.

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Speaker 7: We'll be right back talking to Barry McGuire.

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Speaker 8: The website is Ignite America dot com. Meg, like misster

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Speaker 8: milk toast, you get shut out.

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Speaker 2: Meg.

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Speaker 8: Folks, welcome back, continue my conversation with my friend Barry McGuire.

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Speaker 8: The book is Ignite your Life, Ignite America dot com.

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Speaker 8: And so, Barry, when you say ignite, there's so many

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Speaker 8: people that I think that they would say, well, I'm

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Speaker 8: a Christian, but they're not living in the fullness of

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Speaker 8: what that is. And you know, and I know it

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Speaker 8: is God's will for each one of us to live

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Speaker 8: in the fullness of that.

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Speaker 7: So when you talk about living this way.

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Speaker 8: It's not just for those who don't believe, but it's

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Speaker 8: to encourage those who do believe to believe fully to

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Speaker 8: live their life with the joy and the hope.

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Speaker 7: That's the Lord's will and he wants to use us

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Speaker 7: for them.

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Speaker 8: And it's a powerful thing because I think there are

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Speaker 8: many people that they would say they're Christians, but somehow

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Speaker 8: they're not walking in freedom and enjoy.

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Speaker 7: I just want to say on the.

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Speaker 8: Record, folks, it is God's will for you that you

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Speaker 8: appropriate everything He has for you.

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Speaker 7: He loves you.

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Speaker 8: And what you just said about the scripture Barry, that

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Speaker 8: famous scripture Romans eight twenty eight, I mean think that

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Speaker 8: God gives us this promise. He says, every horrible thing

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Speaker 8: will work together for good for those that love me

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Speaker 8: and are called according to My purpose.

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Speaker 7: He's with us and he will use our difficulties.

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Speaker 8: And we all have difficulties that I don't know anybody

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Speaker 8: who doesn't. If you don't, it means you're very young

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Speaker 8: and dumb, and you will and if you have Jesus

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Speaker 8: with you in it become it can become a beautiful thing,

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Speaker 8: which is hard to believe except it's true.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you over there in the midst of turmoil.

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Speaker 4: Don't waste it, They'll say, what, No, don't waste it.

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Speaker 4: This is your testimony. This is when you know I

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Speaker 4: have a problem a little bit Eric, because people say

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Speaker 4: me as a businessman and a business, a pretty wife

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Speaker 4: and cars, and they say, well car, if I had

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Speaker 4: what he had, they don't know what I've been through.

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Speaker 4: You know when I had my joint venture partner and

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Speaker 4: I found it the next morning, he's gonna throw.

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Speaker 5: Me out of my business.

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Speaker 4: I was sixty five years old.

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Speaker 5: You know the story.

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Speaker 4: My life was over sixty five, It couldn't restart, and

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Speaker 4: he takes I can over my board and he's thrown

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Speaker 4: me out the next morning. And what did I do?

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Speaker 4: I fraighth the shortest fair.

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Speaker 5: It was easy.

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Speaker 4: I say, God, I asked you for nothing. I did

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Speaker 4: it the way I'm talking right now. I add it

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Speaker 4: because I've been through it so many times. I just

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Speaker 4: know he's there. I say, God, I ask you for anohing.

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Speaker 4: You know I live for your purpose every day. It's

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Speaker 4: not a gray air. That's what I do every day.

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Speaker 4: I move everybody every day closer to Jesus. And I

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Speaker 4: know you. Your promise is when I do that. You

807
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Speaker 4: make everything work together for good. And as he's listening

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Speaker 4: to my voice right now, I crawled into bed. I

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Speaker 4: went to sleep immediately. I slept all night. I did

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Speaker 4: not tastit her. I got the next morning excited for

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Speaker 4: this worst moment of my life. And God turned it around.

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Speaker 4: About eight minutes. They were cussing me, gid you, this

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Speaker 4: and this. They were there so mad at me because

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Speaker 4: they had me, and then they didn't have me, and

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Speaker 4: I had to love it.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 4: I had nothing, but I had you, and that's all

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Speaker 4: I needed. You are my majority. You've got it under control.

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Speaker 4: How do we do that by living for His purpose?

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Speaker 4: This is a part of life. It's the one thing

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Speaker 4: you don't want to do. You don't want to share you.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: It's got that's Satan. Satan doesn't want us to multiply.

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Speaker 4: He's got us at ten percent of the populace. He's

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Speaker 4: happy to leave us there and keep us in fear

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Speaker 4: and fears from Satan. He's actually, what's the word when

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Speaker 4: you can sterilize this? We can't reproduce because of fear,

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Speaker 4: and that's Satan doing that to you don't let him

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Speaker 4: do that to you. Step out of your box. If

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Speaker 4: you read our book good Night Your Life, you'll see

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Speaker 4: it's all about all the stories of how you go

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Speaker 4: through You just love God and you seize every opportunity

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Speaker 4: and the miracle stories every day. John fifteen eleven says

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Speaker 4: the last parable the pair of the fig tree, the

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Speaker 4: dry branches story. But the ones at bear Fruit, Ah,

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Speaker 4: they're in your my disciple, And you know what my

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Speaker 4: joy Maine with you and your joy were main full.

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Speaker 4: I'm made three years old for I've never had more

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Speaker 4: joy in my life. And Gared I both we just

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Speaker 4: go and have have fun. And now we're meeting people

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Speaker 4: all over. If you go to Amazon reviews book reviews

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Speaker 4: on Agnite your Life, you'll see hundreds of reviews, hundreds.

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Speaker 4: They're all five star and they're all saying, I have

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Speaker 4: a brand new life. I didn't know I could do this,

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Speaker 4: like they have a new toy. They didn't know it

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Speaker 4: that this is what he's call us. It's not an

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Speaker 4: add on. It's the one thing he's called us to

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Speaker 4: do because they ignite you.

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Speaker 8: Well's see, this is what's amazing is that this is

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Speaker 8: really it is God's will for us to have joy

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Speaker 8: even when things don't go well. Uh, particularly wants us

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Speaker 8: to have joy in people of that and to say,

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Speaker 8: you know what, my if things are well with my soul,

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Speaker 8: God will show me the way forward. And so folks,

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Speaker 8: you know, if you're not hanging out with Christians or

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Speaker 8: going to a church that's walking in this, you're kind

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Speaker 8: of missing something glorious, something beautiful.

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Speaker 7: And I think that it's very important to be around that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's one of the reasons I think books

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Speaker 8: are important because if you read a book like the

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Speaker 8: one that you wrote ignite your life, you think, oh, oh,

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Speaker 8: what an amazing story. Oh here's another amazing story. It

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Speaker 8: kind of gets you thinking along the lines of.

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Speaker 7: Like, yeah, I kind of want that. I kind of

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Speaker 7: want a life like this.

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Speaker 8: I'm going to start beginning to have faith that God

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Speaker 8: could do this and God could do that, and it

868
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 8: gives me opportunities to talk to people, to love people,

869
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 8: and it's the only way to live. And we need

870
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 8: to hear this over and over. This is not like Okay,

871
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 8: I got it and I don't need to hear about

872
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 8: it again.

873
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 7: It is a beautiful thing.

874
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 8: So finding a good church even being able to share

875
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 8: with somebody like you can you know when you say, oh,

876
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 8: I got to Jack Hibbs's church, you know about Jack Hibbs's.

877
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 7: Church and Chino Hills.

878
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 8: To be able to lead somebody say here's a great

879
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 8: place you might want to check out. You can check

880
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 8: it out online. You can go there, but like to

881
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 8: have that. We just Barry, have one minute left. Please

882
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 8: say whatever's on your heart.

883
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: Go to ignited America dot com. There's a ton of resources.

884
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: This is what God has called you to do, and

885
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: we're running out of time. We may have four years.

886
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 5: Who knows.

887
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: This is the moment. Need to run the race if

888
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 4: when the Lord comes back. I want to be in

889
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 4: stride getting one more person into Heaven. Eric's voice and

890
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: my voice are exactly the same. He's more to the

891
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: church and I'm more to the individual. Where the very

892
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 4: same message. It's not about anything else, the one thing

893
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: we're called. And folks, when you get to heaven, the

894
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: question is the apostle. Paul said to us, what will be

895
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: my reward? What my word? Mike Crow, when I get

896
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: to him, it's you, it's those of you. I led

897
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: to Jesus Christ. I led to Heaven how many people

898
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: will be into heaven because of your influence. That's the

899
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: real question. What a way?

900
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 8: Well, I'm sorry at a time, but folks, you can

901
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 8: go to the website Ignite America dot com. The book

902
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 8: is Ignite your Life and there's a new one live

903
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 8: Ignited your daily nudge. Barry McGuire, dear friend and brother,

904
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 8: thanks for coming on this program.

905
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: Awesome, God bless you man. Hi, everybody, welcome back to Ignite.

906
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 4: I have a special, incredibly special opportunity right now to

907
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: introduce you to Dallas Home. Who I must say, in

908
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 4: my entire life, I've never known anybody that more represented God,

909
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 4: that just walks with God. Is all In. Has a

910
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 4: crazy sense of humor. It makes me laugh, he makes

911
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: me cry. He has the most parfolter calls I've ever seen.

912
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: And he does the old facial way. Everybody's sitting down.

913
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: If you want to get save, stand up and walk forward.

914
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 4: Tak no MoES about it. And I've seen him in

915
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: services where two hours later he's still praying. He didn't

916
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: just preaching leaves. He's there. He burns for souls. He's

917
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: but had some challenging things through his life. So I

918
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: just I want to introduce you to my money Dallas home, Dallas.

919
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: Is it fun that we're able to do this after

920
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: all these years?

921
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: I know, it's incredible. In fact, I'm sitting at my

922
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: desk in my office, so your picture of your family

923
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: is on my desk all the time. Every day I

924
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: look at it and I say a prayer.

925
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 4: Wow, So I love you guys. Well, we have those

926
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: pictures visible around our house. And we go back to

927
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy, folks, we do nineteen seventy and it was

928
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 4: a goden thing. If I can divert just for a moment.

929
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 4: We were Nazarenes, built raised challenge by the Nazarene Church

930
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: and moved from Pasadena, California, to George County to Irvine,

931
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: and there was not a Nazarene church around of any size,

932
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 4: and we were church mountains for a year until he

933
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 4: let us into on September thirteenth, nineteen seventy, into First

934
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: Assembity of God, Santa Anna, First Assembity of God. And

935
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 4: when we were walked in that morning, little did we

936
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 4: know that we would be there just about every Sunday morning,

937
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: Sunday night, Wednesday night for the next thirty one years.

938
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: And it was very interesting that I just had a

939
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 4: reeltor forgive me to divert for a moment. Dallas was

940
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 4: to set the seed. It's a miracle story. I had

941
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: a realtor from Florida come up to me a couple

942
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: of years ago at a car show and he said,

943
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: I understand you knew Brother Books and I said yes.

944
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: He said I sought him a house in Florida. I said,

945
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 4: I knew he hadn't what year sixty nine? No, I

946
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: didn't want embarrassing. I just live talking. He said yeah.

947
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 4: And then when he got back to New York. Dallas

948
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: knows and I both know well that Dave would do

949
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 4: one thing one day and then during the night got

950
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: to tell you something differently. He was going to a

951
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: different direction the next day. Just followed not what we said,

952
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: but any of us said. He followed what he heard

953
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: God say to him. He would he would pray two

954
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 4: or three times, two to three hours every night, and

955
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: he heard from God and he calls the remgans, I

956
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 4: can't buy the house. And he says, mister rooksaid, brought

957
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 4: Pastor Wilkan to yours. You're at Scrow. You're committed, He said,

958
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I can't buy the house. Why can't I

959
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 4: buy the house? Because God told me to move to Irvine, California. Now,

960
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy, Irvine was not a city. There was

961
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: no city Irvine Calivory. It was an incorporated area with

962
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 4: a couple thousand people. How does a pastor in New

963
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: York City tell anything about irvinell except that God told him?

964
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 4: And when God told him, that's what he's doing. I said, so,

965
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: what do you do? He said? I got him out

966
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 4: of I said, why would you do that? He would?

967
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: David Werkerson tells you God told him he's got to

968
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 4: move to Irvine. What do you think? Yeah? I boreed

969
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: some strings. So he moved in and get this into

970
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 4: the same neighborhood we just moved into two blocks away

971
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 4: from us. But we didn't meet him there. And our

972
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 4: sojourn going for church to church to church. He had

973
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: a son, God had a son. A sojourn of learning,

974
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: and we went through so many empty churches and finally

975
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 4: walked into it, the last church we'd never go into

976
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 4: us seb Ways of God. Are you kidding me? Pentecostal

977
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 4: speaking times, No, we're not going to go there. We

978
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: didn't know we were there. He just let us in

979
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 4: and the moment we arrived, we know his home. And

980
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 4: afterwards we were introduced to Gwynn Wilkerson and our friend said,

981
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 4: I think you have daughters, don't you? Yeah, And the

982
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 4: baby said because Maguire's the babysitters said, oh yeah, that

983
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: work out. And we lived two blocks of each other.

984
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: Really about Dave was traveling every weekend, but finally about

985
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 4: three weeks later we got to meet him and that

986
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: started world. I don't want to go off on that,

987
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 4: but he not only moved, but he moved his team

988
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: and Dallas. What is your sayed singer at Dallas home

989
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: and our church and we became friends. Oh. It took

990
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 4: us maybe two weeks or something after there and memories

991
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 4: for those days Dallas.

992
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the reason we moved out there, and this

993
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 2: is so typical brother Dave. I joined him January first

994
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: of nineteen seventy in New York. Worked with them, traveled

995
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: with them in the Wilkers Youth Crusades for those months,

996
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: but we were doing more ministry on the West coast

997
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: in California. We've come out almost every month and do

998
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: a great crusade at the Anaheim Convention Center. It's back

999
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 2: in the Jesus Movement days. All the hippies were coming out.

1000
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: Brother Dave would always give an indication there might be

1001
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred street people come forward at the end, I

1002
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: need Jesus, I won Christ. We'd take him aside, pray

1003
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: with them, talk with them, turn them over to Chuck

1004
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: Smith because he was kind of the only church in

1005
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: the area that really was specifically zeroing in on that group.

1006
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: And so typical Brother Dave, it's like, well, this is

1007
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: where God is moving into a spectacular right, let's just

1008
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: keep in the middle of it. Let's move there. So

1009
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: literally left New York moved to southern California so we

1010
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,479
Speaker 2: could be right in the middle of all that God

1011
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: was doing there. Of course, it was the movement all

1012
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: over the world, but California, southern California, it seemed to

1013
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: really kind of headquarter there. The news media was picking

1014
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: up on it, and that is why we didn't care

1015
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: about that, and there was a lot of misrepresentations of

1016
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: what was happening. But it was just such a such

1017
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: a sovereign work of God, and Brother Dave wanted to

1018
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: be right in the middle of it. So back up

1019
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: your bags, here we go. So we moved right in

1020
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: the middle of it. I'm so glad we did. I

1021
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: always remember. My clearest memory is stand out, kind of

1022
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: in the foyer of the church one of those Sunday mornings,

1023
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: and Karen was there, your wife, and these two little girls,

1024
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: cutest little girls, Michelle and Nicole, and I just love kids.

1025
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: I've always loved kids, and especially Michelle and I just

1026
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: kind of clicked.

1027
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: You know.

1028
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: She wanted to be wherever I was, and honestly I

1029
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: wanted to be wherever she was. So we had the

1030
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: best time and still be maintained a marvelous relationship after

1031
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: all these years. Something such a special young lady.

1032
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 4: You've been that second father to her, and in the

1033
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 4: fun times you ministered to her. A lot of her

1034
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 4: spiritual strait was drawn from you. Of course we're talking

1035
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 4: David works in across the switch played fame and uh

1036
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 4: found you having a challenge.

1037
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: And can you see that there at that Mary, Karen

1038
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: and Dallas on his motorcycle. Oh, here's Linda talking about

1039
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: seventy Michelle and Nicole. That was in our house in Dallas,

1040
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: probably at about seventy two. I'm thinking around that area. Yeah,

1041
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: here's here's Dallas and his little friend Michelle on this.

1042
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: Oh, I guess I.

1043
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: Found those up this morning. I gotta gotta show you that. Yeah,

1044
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: we go back a long way. You know, friendships like

1045
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: this true friends in Christ are. There are no richer

1046
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: treasures in all of earth. Obviously our salvation. But I mean,

1047
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: you know you mentioned it when we were praying. We

1048
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: could sit here forever. We'd sit here for hours, talk theology,

1049
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: doctrinal issues, methodology of how we witness, share a faith,

1050
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: everything else. But the bottom line, when you boil down

1051
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: all the volume of scripture and all that God's heart

1052
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: is all about, it's very simple. It's answered when Jesus

1053
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: is asked toward the end of his earthly ministry by

1054
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: this smart young attorney, Well, Lord, what's the greatest commandment?

1055
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: They're really trying to corner them again, you know, ask

1056
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: him something. Maybe he'd come up with the wrong answer,

1057
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: and Jesus boils down the entire eternal intent of God's

1058
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: heart in basically two lines, love the Lord to God,

1059
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: love one another, love your neighbors, yourself, And in this

1060
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: all the long and the prophets are fulfilled. And that's

1061
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: why it makes even a conversation like this, Of all

1062
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: the things we could discuss, bottom line is we are

1063
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: in Christ, We love the Lord, He loves us, and

1064
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: we have this call on our lives. And that's all

1065
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: my life and ministry since I've been a Christian. That's

1066
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 2: all that floats my boat. You know, Music's just a vehicle.

1067
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 2: It was never the end game. It's just the tool

1068
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: that God gave me. How can I use this to

1069
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: promote the gospel? Present the gospel now? On stage? What

1070
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: happens on stage through all those years, those concerts, that's

1071
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: one thing. But what happens on the street, what happens

1072
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: in the grocery store, what happens at Walmart? You know. Well,

1073
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: and when we talked the other day, I share this.

1074
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: I mean this year in particular. And I don't know why.

1075
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 2: I could just tell you that God has put upon

1076
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 2: my heart challenged me be more intentional, be more specific. Look,

1077
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean when I get up in the morning, before

1078
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Speaker 2: I swing my legs over the bed, I always have

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00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: just a little it's not my prayer time, but it's

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00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 2: good morning, Lord. Thank you for a good night's sleep,

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00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: thank you for your goodness, your blessings. Please let me

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00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: cross paths with one today whom I can show the

1083
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 2: love of Jesus too. And it's not a method, it's

1084
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: not a formula. It's not a here's the four steps.

1085
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: Here's no, it's just I put it this way and

1086
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: I got to stop here. I'll get preaching. But that

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00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: is great, keep going. It's so basic, it's so simple.

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00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: People are so intimidated because they think they've got to

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00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: be theologians. They've got to have a script, they've got

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: to have a method of program. You know, I always

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00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: say this, how would you how would you describe Jesus?

1092
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: You know, how would you describe the personality of Jesus?

1093
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: I think the best way is, well, he was a

1094
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: man of peace, joy, love, kindness, goodness, gentlest, faithfulist, patient,

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00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: self control. All that defines who he is. So as Christians,

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00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: I say, think of ourselves as carrying a nice big

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00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 2: basket of fruit around, fresh ripen fruit. And every day

1098
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 2: we literally rub shoulders with people who are starving to death,

1099
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: sometimes physically but certainly spiritually, relationally, financially, they're just starving.

1100
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: Will we not take out a piece of the fruit

1101
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: and say taste and see that the Lord is good.

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00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: I just look for opportunities to just show love, to

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00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: encourage to be kind to someone. Just a couple of

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00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: days ago, I was that one of my favorite restaurants

1105
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: and the waitress came up, lovely, young, Hispanic lady and

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00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: didn't look like she had a care in the world.

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00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: Beautiful young lady, Can I take your order? And I said, yes,

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00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: you sure may, and I talk. I always try to

1109
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 2: engage and make them laugh if I can. And I said,

1110
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: you know, when my food comes, I'm going to have

1111
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to pray and thank the Lord for his provision.

1112
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: Is there any way I can pray for you about anything?

1113
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 6: Oh?

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: She just I mean she started to tear up, and

1115
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: she said, well, pray for me at school. I'm kind

1116
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: of struggling, and pray for my health. And I said,

1117
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to do that. I asked her name, and

1118
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 2: I had prayer with her. Did I lead her to Christ?

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00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: Did I present a sermon at Nope? That really, in

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00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: a sense, is not my job. We know from Scripture

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00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: it's a process. First of all, no one comes to

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00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: Christ unless they're drawn by the Holy Spirit. One verse says,

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00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: no one comes to the sun unless the Father draws them.

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00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: Another verse says, no one comes to the Father unless

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Speaker 2: the Son draws them, and the agent of drawing is

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: always the Holy Spirit, who is also the one in

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: charge of the regenerative process of salvation. But our job

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00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 2: is to sow the seed. We trust that God is cultivated.

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00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: We sow the seed. Someone else may water. Someone else,

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00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: you know, plants water. Someone is there for the harvest. Now,

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: you and I know that sometimes we're privileged to be

1132
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: there for the whole thing. We start with someone in

1133
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: a conversation and a few minutes later we're praying with

1134
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: them to receive Christ. But I'd say that's the exception. Generally,

1135
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: we're just part of the process that God is up

1136
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: to in their lives. I love your philosophy that you mentioned.

1137
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: Just every day, just move people just a step closer

1138
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: to Jesus. That's so easy, it's so simple, it's so

1139
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: I just love it. I wish I heard that earlier,

1140
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: because for a lot of the years in my early

1141
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: Christian life, I felt almost his condemnation. I'm not saying enough,

1142
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm not doing enough. I don't know how to do that.

1143
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: I feel unqualified, I feel intimidated. All these Yeah, you

1144
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: just like, well, who am I to go tell someone? Yeah,

1145
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: it's not about telling them. There'll be a time to tell,

1146
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: there'll be informational exchange. It's just showing them who Jesus is.

1147
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: And it's so easy. Opportunities abound every single day, and

1148
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: I just I'm so thrilled with You've always understood that

1149
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: in your ministry. We've known each other a long time,

1150
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: and I remember you saying through the years, the wax thing,

1151
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: that's just the vehicle, that's just the platform for me

1152
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: to minister to others. And God has taken you to

1153
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: people at never going to come to my church and

1154
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: never gonna come to my concert, you know. But in

1155
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: the recent years now you see that that was all preparation,

1156
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: that was foundational. All that was just stuff that God

1157
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: was doing to prepare you for the ministry that He's

1158
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: given you. Now, I'm just I'm so excited. I'm so

1159
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: impassionate about it. Whatever amount of encouragement or ministry I've

1160
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: ever offered to you, believe me, it's come back twofold

1161
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: from you to me to at this point in my

1162
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: life as a senior citizen on social security and all

1163
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: that stuff to be even more impassioned, more intentional, more specific.

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Speaker 2: You know, if life is a mile run, I'm in

1165
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: the last lap, well into the last lap. So make

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Speaker 2: it count. Make every moment, every day, every opportunity count.

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Speaker 2: That's That's what I'm about. That's my story and I'm

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Speaker 2: sticking to it.

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Speaker 4: You get it, well, We're in that We're in the

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Speaker 4: sprint lap. This is this is this is it right?

1171
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Speaker 4: We're in that last lap. We were learning and we

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01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 4: get her technique down. But and you and I have

1173
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 4: have have arrived at the same place to entirely different lives,

1174
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 4: but we're saving this serve the same God. And the

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01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 4: horse fair has been perfected through my challenges, through your challenges,

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01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 4: but your heart's always been there. I I here, I talk.

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Speaker 4: Why do we have what we have? We don't deserve anything.

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Speaker 4: We deserve nothing right, And it's not because we're good,

1179
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Speaker 4: and it's not because we've been obedient and all that. Well, Obedia,

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Speaker 4: I would take that back. It is because we've been

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Speaker 4: Obedia because from those days when we were together, you

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Speaker 4: and I and Karen and Linda have kept God is

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01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 4: our focus and through thick and thin, no matter what's

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Speaker 4: going on, we've kept him as we've just trusted him,

1185
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Speaker 4: and we've learned from him, and we've had our failures

1186
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: and ran whatever. But all of it is mold us

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 4: into what we are today. And it is God's truth.

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01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 4: It's not our truth and my truth, not your truth.

1189
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: This is God's truth and his promise is true. And

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Speaker 4: he says when we live for His purpose, it's insane.

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Speaker 4: I just did a podcast on this. Love God and

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 4: love your Davids yourself. They' that's what it is. We

1193
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 4: don't need anything else. There's nothing he Elsey requires of

1194
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 4: us and nothing, and when we get to turning, nothing

1195
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Speaker 4: else will have any significance. It will not matter how

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Speaker 4: many bottles of car Waks I sold when I get

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Speaker 4: but it doesn't not gonna matter. It doesn't matter how

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Speaker 4: many industries I support. It doesn't matter how much money

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Speaker 4: I give it away. None of that matters. The only

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Speaker 4: currency in heaven is souls. We can work well. I

1201
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 4: see people so exercising, aggressive, active Christians, fighting for causes,

1202
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 4: fighting against abortion, whatever, to the point where it consumes them.

1203
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: It's like it becomes their God. And they're so militant,

1204
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 4: and they're even hating the people on the other side

1205
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 4: of those issues that God loves as much as he

1206
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Speaker 4: loves us, and they're seeing hate coming from a Christian God.

1207
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 4: God loves character. Might discoveries here. God loves the people.

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01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 4: We hate. Hatess not part of our vocabulary. We have

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 4: to love it no matter what. But when we do

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01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 4: that every so if we do, if there's one more

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Speaker 4: person gets to have it because of our love, it's

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Speaker 4: worth the day. Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And sharing our faith should be And I've always

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Speaker 2: known this intellectually and I've never been I've never been

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Speaker 2: afraid to share my faith. But again, there have been

1216
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Speaker 2: times I've missed opportunities because you know, I felt that

1217
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: nudging of the Holy Spirit. Bell. They're going to think

1218
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm crazier. They I don't know exactly what to say whatever.

1219
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: We find all these excuses, but the reality is sharing

1220
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Speaker 2: our faith should be the most natural outflow, reflex response

1221
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: of our relationship with the Lord. And if it's not,

1222
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: then and that's what I'm doing this here. It's like

1223
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm checking myself, Okay, if there's any reason why that

1224
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: isn't just the natural response of my life daily, something's wrong,

1225
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 2: there's some area of pride or self centeredness or I

1226
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: have that when there's no condemnation in that, there's therefore

1227
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: now no condemnation of them that in Christ Jesus, it's

1228
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: just God's loving discipline and instruction to say, Dallas, let's

1229
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: check here, because all you got to think about is

1230
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: just sharing my love Sharon, who I tell them, show them.

1231
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Speaker 2: You know you mentioned something before how we got to

1232
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: this place. And I'll try to make this real short,

1233
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: but I think it's beneficial for especially for people. You're

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01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 2: a little older than I am, but I'm I'm in

1235
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: my late seventies now you and I don't know. But

1236
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: even in the church, in the Christian community, we've let

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01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: so much of the world's philosophy bleed into what we

1238
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: do that it's all about success, numbers, spreadsheets, achievement. You know,

1239
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: in the world of law, when you become a partner,

1240
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: if you're in medicine, it's when you get published, if

1241
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: you're in sales, it's quotas in music, like me, it's

1242
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: certain standards of number one songs or charting or gold

1243
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 2: records or Grammys or whatever else. So I'll just say

1244
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: this real quickly. Thanks to the blessing of the Lord,

1245
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: there was a season where I achieved all that top

1246
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: of the mountain, but nobody stays on the top of

1247
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: the mountain forever. God brings us to the top of

1248
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: the mountain for that perspective, but then he brings us

1249
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: into the valley. Life has lived in the valley. So

1250
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: probably about twenty years ago, when you know, the the

1251
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: crowds weren't there anymore of the records weren't telling them

1252
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: as much. I kind of jokingly say, now people come

1253
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,959
Speaker 2: up and say, hey, didn't you use to be Dallas Home?

1254
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: You know, you're kind of you.

1255
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, if you're in the body of Christ, you've

1256
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 4: certainly heard the song rise again. I listened to the

1257
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 4: Gaither channel on serious radio. If that song codes up

1258
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 4: at least cover every time you go, Harry yells, there's Dallas.

1259
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, God used.

1260
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Speaker 4: I've written so many songs, but one that breaks me

1261
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 4: with just you and the guitars.

1262
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Speaker 5: Here we are, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and your presence lifting Holy hands to you, Holy

1264
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: hands to you breaks break. There came that time where

1265
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Speaker 2: all that quote success, what would seem to be success,

1266
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Speaker 2: that's all kind of going now downhill. I don't know

1267
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: a number of years ago, I mean I actually came

1268
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: to this point where I remember one day kind of saying,

1269
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: am I just another old guy on the downhill side

1270
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: of life? Do I just ride off into the sunset

1271
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Speaker 2: like Roy Rogers and Dale Evans? And I was reading

1272
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Speaker 2: Charles Spurgeon's devotional that year on Morning and Evening, which

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Speaker 2: is one of my favorites, and that particular day I

1274
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: read this from Charles Spurgeon. He said, when when the

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Speaker 2: children of Israel marched through the desert, the Levites marched

1276
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: out front. Many of us, in our youthful exuberance, once

1277
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: marched at the front and won many souls to Christ.

1278
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: But in our latter years, he calls us to a

1279
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 2: more important place, and he moves us to the rear,

1280
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: and we become as the tribe of Dan, and we

1281
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: pick up the wounded and the weary and the enfranchised.

1282
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: And within a week of reading that, I was up

1283
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Speaker 2: in the mountains of I think it was in Pace

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Speaker 2: in Arizona. Actually, little church. About fifty people showed up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to sing a minister no matter who.

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Speaker 2: But I've done concerts in Madison Square Garden, the La

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Speaker 2: Sports are in a you name the venue. I've probably

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Speaker 2: been there now fifty people in the mountains of Arizona,

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Speaker 2: and there's a little something in the back of my

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Speaker 2: head saying, man, you've come a long way down the mountain.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the concert, this lady brought

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Speaker 2: this elderly gentleman. He's probably in his eighties. She said,

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Speaker 2: this is Daddy. Daddy's gone to church here all his life.

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Speaker 2: Every Sunday, we say, Daddy, do you want to give

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Speaker 2: your life to Jesus? Nope, she said. He's heard every evangelist,

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Speaker 2: every sermon. Do you want to give your life to Jesus? Nope,

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Speaker 2: she said. Tonight, he turned to me and said, do

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Speaker 2: you think if I went down there, that man would

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Speaker 2: pray with me to receive Christ? And he's just crying

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Speaker 2: his eyes out, had a black suit on, a nice

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Speaker 2: little red tie, white shirt. He was dressed up, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I was able to pray with him to receive Christ.

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Speaker 2: But here's the point. I got this sense of God

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Speaker 2: speaking to my heart. We all have different ways. I

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Speaker 2: didn't hear an audible voice, but it was like God said,

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Speaker 2: you see, all that other stuff was just preparation, preparation,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff that the world called success. That was

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Speaker 2: just preparing the foundation. Now you're qualified to get this guy.

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Speaker 2: And the next night, about fifty miles down the row

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Speaker 2: of the same thing, a little church, elderly gentleman as

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Speaker 2: eighties came down. He said, would you pray for me

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Speaker 2: to receive Christ? And it's kind of like God putting

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Speaker 2: an exclamation point on it. This is what I really

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Speaker 2: care about. Getting the one. Remember the lost sheep leaves

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Speaker 2: the ninety nine. Just go get that one. That's everything.

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Speaker 2: That's our task on a daily basis. Find that one,

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Speaker 2: Move that one a little closer to Jesus, Share the

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Speaker 2: love of Jesus, share peace, share kindness, goodness. May it

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Speaker 2: lead to a conversation, may lead to leading them to Christ.

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Speaker 2: Yet it may, but it may not. But you're you're

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Speaker 2: to be part of the process, either the cultivator or

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Speaker 2: the planet, or the water or the harvest. Duration.

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Speaker 4: I was walking out of church at a huge service.

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Speaker 4: It's packed several thousand people and we're down the front.

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Speaker 4: We're always the last ones to leave a little church

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Speaker 4: for the last one's leave. We now we go to

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Speaker 4: a big church for the last one's leave. And as

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Speaker 4: we're going out the door, I looked back and there

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Speaker 4: was a couple, an older couple, praying together. It's a

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Speaker 4: cavernous church, balconies and the musicians are all gone. They

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Speaker 4: clear up the stage, they cleared the trash. They're very

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Speaker 4: proficient and doing all that. And I'm almost to the

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Speaker 4: door to go out, and I look back. I'm talking

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Speaker 4: to engage the conversation. Look back, I see this couple.

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Speaker 4: I told the I'll tell you, I just got yanked. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I can't do this. I saw him. I saw them

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Speaker 4: a little bit when I walked by, but I was

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Speaker 4: engaging conversation. And then look back as always said sorry,

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Speaker 4: I just got you. We caught the nudge and incredible conversations.

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Speaker 4: One of the church serves that moment lit me on fire.

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Speaker 4: It's what it does for us. We have this privilege

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Speaker 4: and we may be the first or of the twentieth person.

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Speaker 4: We don't know how many we're We're part of it.

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Speaker 4: It's a team sport. And back in the day, if

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Speaker 4: I didn't get him, say it on the spot, I

1346
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Speaker 4: was a failure. Were you God what I needed you?

1347
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Speaker 4: What's going wrong? I get mad? It was so wrong?

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Speaker 4: My armor God puts up with this. You know he

1349
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:35,919
Speaker 4: just shakes his head.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: Oh and you know you just that moment. And we

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Speaker 4: don't have to prepare for that. I don't care what's

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Speaker 4: going on. We don't have to prepare. And in our

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Speaker 4: secular conversation, we don't prepare. I wonder what they're gonna

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Speaker 4: ask you. What are they gonna talk about carwork? What

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 4: are I gonna say about carwork? I know that it

1357
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 4: just comes out. It's a holy spirit. So anyway, are

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Speaker 4: our theme is move everybody every day close to Jesus.

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Speaker 4: But beyond that, we say our goal is to ignite Christians,

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01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 4: to ignite America the revival, one person at a time.

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Speaker 4: And you have some great stories on that, and we're

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Speaker 4: out of time. Can you come back. Let's do another

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Speaker 4: one of these. Can we do that?

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Speaker 2: Sure we can do that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Sure, let's we'll after another one of these. Okay,

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Speaker 4: stay tuned, folks, and we'll be back with more of

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Speaker 4: my Buddy Dallas home. God bless you, welcome back to

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Speaker 4: ignite here by Buddy Dallas Home. We have been buddies,

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Speaker 4: literally buddies since September of nineteen seventy. Dallas, of course,

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01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 4: was the crusade singer for David Wilkerson, and we've covered

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Speaker 4: all that, of course, but then of just his fame

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Speaker 4: and demand for his own personal ministry led him into

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Speaker 4: doing and he's traveled the country ever since. And I

1374
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 4: have been in so many of those services and being convicted.

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Speaker 4: You've got me saved again several times. We're talking about

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Speaker 4: Sherry Fad. That's what this is all about, folks, and

1377
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 4: how much fun it is. It is fun, and Dallas,

1378
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 4: I've been doing it all our lives and we have

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Speaker 4: so many stories. We're going to get to some of

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Speaker 4: those in a minute. But you said something off camera which

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Speaker 4: struck a chord with me because it's like, how many

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Speaker 4: did I miss? I try to take an inventory at

1383
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 4: the end of the day. It is move everybody every

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Speaker 4: day closer to Jesus. That's our goal. It's not find

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Speaker 4: one person today, not all the people you're going to

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Speaker 4: be with today that are on their way to hell.

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Speaker 4: How do you pick one? How do you pick the

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Speaker 4: right one? And we don't have time for that anyway.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we need to move everyone every day closer

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Speaker 4: to Jesus. And here's something you may not realize. Do

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Speaker 4: you know that most non Christians are non Christians because

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Speaker 4: of Christians.

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Speaker 2: Well, tragically, yes, And I understand.

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Speaker 4: That because we're not sensitive that everything we do and

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Speaker 4: say is moving people closer further away from God. You're

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Speaker 4: in full time ministry. We all are right. And for

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Speaker 4: the moment you get up the morning time, you go

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Speaker 4: to bed tonight, everything you say today, you can't get

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Speaker 4: away from this. Once I tell you this, you're stuck.

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Speaker 4: Everything you do and say today is moving everyone watching

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01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 4: you closer further away from God. Yep, that changes. It's

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Speaker 4: a life change.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of times, you know, you hate to

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: say this, but a lot of times, and like you,

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Speaker 2: I've run into so many people through the years and

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01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: it just breaks my heart who have such a hardness

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Speaker 2: and a resistance to the Lord or the things of

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 2: the Lord because someone represented him so badly, and often

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01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: it was in a sharing the faith context, because they

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: got in their face, they had a method, they had

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Speaker 2: a plan, and it was so it was so unloving.

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01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: We got trophy hunters out there, that's what I call them.

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Speaker 4: Folks. I hear this, hear this. It's not an argument.

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 4: You don't cast your pearls before swine. You just you

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 4: just you can't force people into Christianity. It's you said

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01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 4: it earlier. It's the Holy Spirit drawing them. And you

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01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 4: may be at the very beginning of the Holy Spirit

1418
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 4: drawing them, or you may be down the line.

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 5: Business.

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Speaker 4: The thought that the comment you made, that that makes

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Speaker 4: me laugh and sad at the same time, is this

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 4: thing of how many people do we miss? Some days?

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 4: I feel like a pinball machine over there's four face

1425
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 4: sharing I mean, poignant, life changing face sharing experiences in

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Speaker 4: the span of two three hours. And I'm wondering, if

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Speaker 4: I was more attentive, would that be happening every day

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Speaker 4: of my life? Or was it that I just just

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 4: God setting it up At that I don't know, but

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Speaker 4: I do suspect that God sets up They are planned,

1431
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 4: our steps are ordered. He he does plan these these

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 4: interruptions in our live divide interruptions. And I wonder how

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 4: many times I miss it. I'm right there and I

1434
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 4: and I miss it, and I'm picturing God going I

1435
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 4: work so hard that very just blew me off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, in the the ultimate sovereignty of God, there

1437
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: are no accidents, and there are no coincidences. He either

1438
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 2: is the God we claim him to be, and more importantly,

1439
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: whose scripture claims him to be. We easily say God

1440
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 2: knows everything, well, does he? Or doesn't he?

1441
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 4: Well?

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01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's God. So these these things are ordered of

1443
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: the Lord. He's got a plan that is so civic,

1444
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,839
Speaker 2: so minute, so moment by moment, and you know, fortunately

1445
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: he's merciful and grace gracious, and sometimes we miss it.

1446
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 2: And again there's no condemnation, but the loss is ours

1447
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 2: when we miss the opportunity, you know, because we miss

1448
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 2: an opportunity. God's not going, oh boy, well I can't

1449
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: help that person out. No, God loves that person, but

1450
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 2: we've missed the opportunity and the blessing and the h

1451
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 2: I guess I would say the opportunity to store up

1452
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 2: another treasure in heaven, which isn't an egotistical thing, because

1453
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: what we store up in heaven we're going to lay

1454
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 2: at the feet of Jesus. This is going to be

1455
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 2: our way of honoring him. You know, I wrote a

1456
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: praise letter and I thought this was We sent it

1457
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: out every other month, and I just got it mailed

1458
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: to myself this morning. I'm on my belly liss so

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01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: I can always check and make sure, the grammar's okay

1460
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 2: and all that. But I ran across this line just

1461
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 2: before we started these podcasts, and I thought if people

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01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 2: could get this in their head, it might help them

1463
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: a little bit. It just says, this is just a

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Speaker 2: little paragraph out of it. We are all aware of

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Speaker 2: the many who perish daily all around the world due

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Speaker 2: to war, famine, crime, and disease. What if somehow there

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Speaker 2: was a daily death toll posted that accounted for all

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01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 2: who had perished without Christ. What if that list contained

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01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: the locations of those who died. How many would have

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Speaker 2: perished in astonishingly close proximity to where we live. What

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Speaker 2: if there was a death toll we could a list

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Speaker 2: we could look up our computer. This many people died today,

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Speaker 2: not just in the world, but in our own community,

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Speaker 2: in our own neighborhood. This many. And we're aware of this.

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Speaker 2: I mean Lynn and I. You know, a couple of

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 2: years ago, as we got a little older, we started saying,

1477
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Speaker 2: every time the phone rings, okay, who's got cancer? Who died?

1478
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 2: Because as we get older, as we move along, more

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Speaker 2: and more people are perishing. People are perishing all around

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01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: us all the time. If that doesn't you know, incite

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01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: us to do something, say something, be Jesus. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what will. It's just it's astonishing how much I'll

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01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: be real careful here. We talked about this the other day.

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Speaker 2: I'm a church person. I believe every Christian should be

1485
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 2: in a good Bible teaching community of believers. Question, but

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01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: I've traveled this country. I've been in twenty two countries

1487
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 2: around the world. I've been in every denomination you can

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01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: think of, literally, from Catholic to Quaker and everything in between.

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Speaker 2: So it's given me a pretty unique perspective on the

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Speaker 2: church little see and how it operates. We spend bazillions

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Speaker 2: of dollars to get the most degreed intellectual pastor, the

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Speaker 2: most talented worship leader, the most innovative programs, the greatest technology.

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Speaker 2: We've got all this going on, and we do so

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01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 2: miserably poor in reaching the loss outside of the walls

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01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: of our church. The church is not to be, as

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01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 2: I study scripture, look at the New Testament church model.

1497
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 2: That was not an evangelistic soul saving station. Now, certainly

1498
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: there were people who came in, were invited by family, whatever,

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01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: and they heard the gospel and they came to faith

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 2: in Christ. But the church's job is to equip us,

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01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 2: you and me, believers, build us up with the knowledge

1502
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: of the Word, so that we have a content, and

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01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 2: then get out of the church and go make a

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01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: difference for the Kingdom of.

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01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 4: De being done. It's almost non existent today, and it's

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 4: the It's not only one of the most so it

1507
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 4: is the thing. It's the only thing got causis to do,

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01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,480
Speaker 4: and we're not doing it. It's crazy.

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01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: All the things we could discuss and debate again theologically, doctrinally,

1510
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: a lot of issues in scripture that you are not

1511
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: real clear. Things that scripture is silent on that we

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01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: can only kind of guess at. There's one thing that

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01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: scripture is absolutely not silent on. And at the very end,

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01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: it's like an exclamation point at the end of christ

1515
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 2: ministry on earth. Oh this one last thing, guys, disciples.

1516
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 2: I want you to go into all the world and

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01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: preach the Gospel and make disciples. One translation says, when

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01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: you look at the original language, it really needs a

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01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 2: little better to say as you are going. In other words,

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01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: it's not a it's not a command to geographically move

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01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: from here to there. Not it might it might entail

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01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: that to go might mean across the ocean, might mean

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01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: across the street, across the table, across the hallway. But

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01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: I like the translation that and as you are going,

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01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 2: In other words, in the course of your day, as

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: you're going, as you're moving about, as you're living your life,

1527
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: preach the gospel. Now that's not a sermon's not a

1528
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: homological presentation. It's just share the truth of the good News. So,

1529
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: as someone said, the loudest sermon you'll ever preach, as

1530
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 2: your life, live for Jesus, and then make disciples. And

1531
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: that's where we, especially in the church, fail miserably. We're

1532
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: not replicating ourselves. We're not discipling men and women, showing them,

1533
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: teaching them, exampling to them. What does a Christian look like?

1534
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: What are Christian values? How do I respond to these

1535
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: areas of as.

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Speaker 4: You are going? And that is as you're going in

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01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 4: your regular life. It's not that you decide I'm going

1538
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 4: to go on a missions trip. I mean you may

1539
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 4: do that. You may talk about every day as you're

1540
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 4: going throughout your regular life. Breakfast this morning with your family,

1541
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 4: you know, interacting with your boss and your employees and

1542
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 4: your workers, and meeting people at Starbucks or it goes

1543
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 4: on and as you were going, realize you're in full

1544
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 4: time ministry. Nothing secular for you, there's nothing secular, right,

1545
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 4: and even the Christians around you need ministrying too, So

1546
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 4: it's it's a full full time I mean, this is

1547
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 4: this is what it's about. And it makes like we say,

1548
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 4: every day's an adventure when you're watching for it and

1549
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 4: you receive more back than you're giving. Yes, because I

1550
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 4: mean every time you walk away from that and you've

1551
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 4: you've even had one experience, you know this, you're probably

1552
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 4: talking about five years since you did it. After it

1553
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 4: was I was so excited, was so excitedle Then why

1554
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 4: don't you do it every day? Right? You can do

1555
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 4: this every day, and we're running out of time. We

1556
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 4: need to be doing this every day. Eighty percent of

1557
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 4: our population America lost and I know they're doing crazy things,

1558
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 4: but they have an excuse. They're lost and they're not

1559
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 4: going to church and their only hope is you us,

1560
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 4: We're their only hope. They have no heart apart from

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01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 4: Christians loving on them, they have no hope. Again, the

1562
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 4: help of love is apathy. Is that Hey, it is

1563
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 4: just a genius. Don't care, right, God, help us to care,

1564
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 4: help us to move everybody every day. Of course it is,

1565
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 4: that's what this thing is. Get ignited and start having

1566
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 4: some fun, be like an explosion in your life.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love the point you made. In fact, just

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01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: in the last few days, as I was thinking about

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01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: praying about, you know, doing this podcast and what do

1570
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: we talk about and what's important what's non essential, that

1571
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 2: was one of the main things I thought about because

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01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 2: I realized, especially after I quit touring, still take a

1573
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: few dates, but as far as touring, I just don't

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01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 2: do that anymore. I toured for fifty years and God

1575
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: just kind of closed that that season.

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Speaker 4: By the way, your podcast, how do we get to

1577
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 4: your podcast?

1578
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 2: Folks?

1579
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 4: He's an incredible podcast. You've gotta you've gotta got to

1580
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 4: enjoy it. How do they find your podcast?

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01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: Very quick? Oh, it's a Dallashome dot com is our

1582
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 2: website and our podcast comes out every Wednesday. It's called

1583
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 2: here we Are your favorite song? Yes, and my daughter

1584
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: and I usually do it. We'll have everything. We got

1585
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: some throwback videos back from the seventies, old videos that

1586
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: we throw in. So it's.

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01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 4: Real life spirits ministry. It'll bless you podcast Dallas does

1588
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 4: leave you tears. I mean it's from the heart, it's

1589
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 4: it's holy spirit driven.

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Speaker 2: So what you said about sharing the faith is not just.

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01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 2: I think we've done damage to the whole concept of

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01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 2: the statement sharing the faith because that that has been

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01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 2: often ill defined as well. That means you go on

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01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: a witnessing campaign, or you pass out this piece of information,

1595
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: or you do this, and it's only to the lost people.

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01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 2: What I find myself is I probably am sharing my

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01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: faith more with Christians or wounded Christians that I am

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01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: non believers. It's not up to me to sort out

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01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: which comes across my plate. But as I've stopped touring,

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01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: it became real obvious, probably in the last year especially.

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01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: I'll get a phone call, I'll get a letter, I'll

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01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 2: get an email. I'll run into someone, just just a

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01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: week ago, a gentleman, and I don't know if he's

1604
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,719
Speaker 2: a Christian or not. We just met. We started to talk.

1605
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 2: He knew who I was, and he said, would you

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01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 2: be willing to just meet with me for lunch? He said,

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01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: I've never been disciples, I've never had anybody just kind

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01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: of walk me through the basics, And I said, yeah,

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01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: next time we get together, which we've got a date

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01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: set up. Let's go grab lunch. Now where that will

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01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 2: lead I don't know, but I think he's a believer.

1612
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: But he's a wounded believer that's walking on, you know,

1613
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 2: spiritual crutches. He just he's not real. You don't have

1614
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: a firm foundation. And more and more, an another man

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01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: called me not too long ago, would you would you

1616
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 2: help me to understand how to teach scripture? How to

1617
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 2: how to be how do you say that? How to

1618
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: be the man of God in my house? How do

1619
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 2: I how do I share the Word of God with

1620
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: my family? I said, absolutely, Let's just sit down. It's

1621
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 2: so easy, it's so practical. Don't think you got to

1622
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: preach sermons. Just again, it's just that sharing love.

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Speaker 4: Oh ye, my disciple, by your love, not by your rhetoric,

1624
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 4: not by your building quote scripture, by your love, when

1625
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 4: God's love flows through you. And I point out the

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01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 4: most prolific of all face sharers are new Christians. Yes,

1627
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 4: and they don't know scripture. They have the love of God.

1628
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 4: He's their first love, and the love of God is

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01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 4: flowing through them, and they're changing lives all around. Not

1630
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 4: because of their expertise in courting, scripture or knowledge, just

1631
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 4: God's love speaking through them, supernaturally speaking through them. I cared.

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01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 4: I you know, I mentioned our age, and we don't

1633
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 4: feel old. I mean, we feel like we're in our fifties,

1634
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 4: but our wifes are changing. For we have four four

1635
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 4: funerals in ten days right now, I mean our drop

1636
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 4: what's happening. But the fact the matter is that we

1637
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 4: need to make sure everybody's in the right place, go

1638
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 4: in the right direction. And I don't have one regret

1639
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 4: of saying I should have talked to them about the Lord.

1640
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 4: Everyone's that happened. Oh I knew I should have got back.

1641
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 4: I missed it. That God nudged me and I didn't

1642
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:35,440
Speaker 4: do it, and it breaks me. We have these opportunities

1643
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 4: every day, and I love what what Peter said to

1644
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 4: the Thessaloni, and he says, so what do I get

1645
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 4: out of it? I've com put in my words, So

1646
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 4: what do I get out of it? Well, I what

1647
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 4: would be my rewards? We hear about crowns and rewards.

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01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 4: So he's some the people that he led to the Lord,

1649
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 4: and he says, so.

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01:26:58,200 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 7: What do I get out of it?

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01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 4: It's you it's you my crown. My rewards in heaven

1652
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 4: are those I led to heaven, to Jesus Christ. That's

1653
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 4: my reward. What will be your reward when you get

1654
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 4: to heaven? You are rewards, And get off the bench,

1655
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 4: into the game and start having fun and the rewards

1656
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 4: will be innumerable. You can't stop it. It's just it's

1657
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 4: now and later because right now you're going to be

1658
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 4: heaving at the time of your life. Listen to us,

1659
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 4: and we've been through some stuff, both of us.

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01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and you said some of a moment ago.

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01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 2: It it triggered a thought. When we were brand new Christians.

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01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,879
Speaker 2: I say it this way. When we were brand new Christians,

1663
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: we did so many things. So right now that we're educated,

1664
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 2: mature and down the road, we do so many things

1665
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: go wrong. Initially, we had an unbridled passion. We didn't

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01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: care what people thought of us. We didn't care what

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01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 2: it costs. We had just fallen in love with the

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01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: King of the universe. What do we care about anything else?

1669
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: And we just shared our testimony. We shared our faith unapologetically.

1670
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 2: Now some people say, well, but you know, that's just

1671
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: a testimony. The operative word. There's just well, that's just

1672
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: a testimony. In the Book of Revelation Inspired by the

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01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 2: Holy Spirit, John writes this, the enemy is overcome by

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01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 2: two things. Number one, the blood of the Lamb. Yes, okay,

1675
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: what could possibly be on the same shelf, the same

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01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: level as the blood of the Lamb. And he says,

1677
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 2: the word of our testimony. Never ever, ever underestimate the

1678
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 2: power of a testimony. It's not our ability to articulate.

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01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 2: I try. I was good at grammar. When I speak,

1681
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 2: I try to speak intelligently. I try to articulate well.

1682
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: I try to use the English language, hopefully with some

1683
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 2: degree of mastery. But the packaging of the message, Paul said,

1684
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power,

1685
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 2: not my presentation of it, inherent in the message of

1686
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 2: the Gospel. And I don't mean message as in just words,

1687
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: but the gospel that we preach, that we show, that

1688
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 2: we demonstrate, yes, that we speak the power that is

1689
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 2: inherent in the message itself. Just share Jesus, Just share

1690
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 2: the Gospel, share your faith. The power is inherent in that.

1691
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 2: I believe, when the Holy Spirit of the Living God

1692
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 2: dwells within us, which every true Christian is endwelt by

1693
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit Romans eight and nine. If you have

1694
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 2: not the Spirit of Christ, you don't belong to him. Now,

1695
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 2: if you turn that sentence around, if you have Jesus,

1696
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 2: you have his Holy Spirit. So the Holy spirit's resident

1697
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: within us. I believe that when the Holy Spirit of

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01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 2: the Only True Living God is resident within a physical body,

1699
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 2: there's a spillover effect. You can't just contain it like, oh,

1700
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: he's in there. But people know, even without your talking,

1701
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 2: people know there's something different going on here. I knew

1702
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 2: that when I was a sinner, when I was lost,

1703
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 2: there were people that were full of God's spirit, love

1704
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 2: and kindness, and it kind of drove me nuts sometimes,

1705
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 2: But that was the power of God. And we have

1706
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 2: that within us. Then when we can take and articulate that,

1707
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 2: And please don't misunderstand what I'm saying, I believe we

1708
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: must be built on the foundation of the Word of God,

1709
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 2: because yes, it's kindness, it's joy, it's exampling out. But

1710
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 2: as you do this, there's going to be conversations that ensue.

1711
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: There's gonna be questions that will be asked, specific questions.

1712
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: We need to be able to give an account, to

1713
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: be ready in season and out of season. As Paul said,

1714
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: always be prepared to respond. But when we just come

1715
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 2: up to people hit them over the head with the

1716
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: Bible or we had some program or some method, it

1717
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 2: is i would say, generally counterproductive. They just want to

1718
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 2: see Jesus. Everybody, well, they really know who Jesus is.

1719
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: Everybody loves Jesus. How could you not love someone who's

1720
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 2: the absolute embodiment of love, peace, joy, kindness. But they've,

1721
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 2: as we said earlier, they've been impacted so often by

1722
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: representatives of Christ who didn't know how to show the

1723
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 2: love of Jesus. They had an agenda. They were trophy hunters.

1724
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 2: They wanted to rack up another notch on their pistols.

1725
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: You know, it's just so it's so wrong.

1726
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's about it is about God's love. And really,

1727
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 4: you know, say, hey, you know, people are afraid to

1728
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 4: share their faith. They're going to get persecuted and all

1729
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 4: this stuff. I've been doing this since nineteen seventy three, folks,

1730
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 4: it's over fifty years. I've never been persecuted, not once.

1731
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 4: Now that's going on around the world, but I'm talking

1732
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 4: about American Christians right now. You know, people they don't

1733
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 4: get mad at you when you tell them God loves

1734
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 4: them absolutely. I don't point out their sin. I go

1735
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 4: and I hug them, and I and I God know

1736
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 4: God loves them, and I walk them. You do it

1737
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 4: in love and a couple other quick thoughts. I am

1738
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 4: more and more being with successful younger you know, forties,

1739
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 4: young people, younger professional Christians that are moneyed, that are

1740
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 4: supporting great causes that the thought of leading somebody to

1741
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ has never entered their mind. They know what

1742
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 4: they're doing to support this ministry in that and that

1743
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 4: ministry is giving them a big room with the hotel

1744
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 4: or on that cruise ship, and they're celebrated and with

1745
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 4: their language and their lifestyles all wrapped up into one.

1746
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 4: They're feeling so good for doing something for God. And

1747
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 4: I'm reminded Jesus said to those that said, haven't I

1748
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 4: done this in your name? Says Department, I don't even

1749
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 4: know who you are. The church is being perverted at

1750
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 4: the highest levels by forgetting what it's all about, and

1751
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 4: it's not about it. We need to support all those things,

1752
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 4: of course, but if we're doing all those things and

1753
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 4: not broken for souls, we've missed the whole point of

1754
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 4: our existence. Dallas is not always when you're at the mountaintop.

1755
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 4: In fact, I have a problem. You know, My biggest

1756
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:55,839
Speaker 4: impediment is, well, if I had Barrier's company and beautiful

1757
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 4: wife and cars, and I'd be happy too. Why shouldn't

1758
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 4: he be happy? If that hurts me? You know what

1759
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 4: my most powerful testimony was when my daughter died.

1760
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 2: Yes, when I was.

1761
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 4: In the hospital, they gave me up for dead. They

1762
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 4: said I couldn't make it. Then my words had power. Yes,

1763
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 4: and you've walked this. I mean I lost to call.

1764
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 4: You loved the call. We lost her forty nine years

1765
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 4: of age of prolific faith share. Yep, Linda was just

1766
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 4: hees talking about a Satman and you two had fun together. Yeah,

1767
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 4: you enjoyed life. You laugh the fulness of life. But boy,

1768
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 4: God walked you through the valley for a lot of years.

1769
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 4: Can you speak to that and what the impact your

1770
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 4: lives naturally loving God to keep your joys had on

1771
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 4: other people?

1772
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife, Linda, we were married for fifty four years.

1773
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 2: We dated for five years before that, so we knew

1774
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 2: and loved each other for almost sixty years. She's the

1775
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 2: best she's the best Christian I've ever known. She was

1776
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 2: beautiful outwardly, but even more beautiful inwardly. She battled breast

1777
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 2: cancer for thirty seven years. There's no way she should

1778
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: have lived that long medically, but just by God's grace.

1779
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 2: And she really enjoyed relatively good health through all that journey.

1780
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 2: But she had surgeries, chemotherapy, radiation, more chemo, more surgery,

1781
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: more radiation, more scans, more needle pricks, and we could

1782
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 2: even count. I mean, she's been through all of that

1783
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 2: and always, I mean, right up till the end, had

1784
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 2: a smile on her face, true joy manifest from within.

1785
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 2: She's an amazing woman. You know, I could tell story

1786
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 2: after story, I could go through all that, but this

1787
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 2: is the reality of life. Because you're a Christian doesn't,

1788
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 2: by any means mean that, oh, well, you're not going

1789
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 2: to have any of the problems that other people do.

1790
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 2: I've never told people, give your life to Jesus and

1791
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 2: you won't have any more problems. I've told people, give

1792
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,799
Speaker 2: your life to Jesus, you'll have some brand new problems.

1793
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 4: Your christ I don't have someone to go through.

1794
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 2: The problems with you. God does his best work in

1795
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 2: our worst times that I'm convinced.

1796
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 4: To say that again, say that He does.

1797
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 2: His best work in our worst times. He accomplishes his

1798
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 2: greatest purposes when we feel like we're just at the

1799
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 2: bottom of the mountain, you know, life. We talked about

1800
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 2: mountaintop experiences before. Occasionally God gives us what we might

1801
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 2: call a mountaintop experience. I've been at the top of

1802
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,799
Speaker 2: some mountains. I'm an outdoors person. I've been fourteen thousand

1803
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 2: feet higher. It's always exhilarating. But the reality is there's

1804
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 2: nothing going on up there. There are no elk walking

1805
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 2: around on the top of the mountain. There's no deer

1806
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 2: up there at fourteen thousand feet. Most of them are

1807
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 2: down in the valley. The tallest trees grow in the

1808
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 2: deepest valleys. The greater amount of wildlife is down low.

1809
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 2: Life has lived in the valley. And honestly, when we

1810
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,919
Speaker 2: go through these times of loss and grief and struggle,

1811
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 2: the most intimate relationship we ever have with Christ is

1812
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 2: in the fellowship of his sufferings. It doesn't get any

1813
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 2: more real than that. And yeah, that could be persecution,

1814
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 2: that can be physical things, it can be any number

1815
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 2: of things. But when we suffer, and God knows what

1816
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 2: he needs to do. Sometimes we're a little whippy, you know,

1817
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 2: we say, well, you know, maybe God allows some of

1818
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 2: these things. But a good God would really, you know,

1819
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 2: in his mercy and grace, would never really causing these

1820
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 2: things to happen. I'd like to point you to Isaiah

1821
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: forty five seven, where it says, this is the Lord speaking.

1822
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: I cause the light, and I create the darkness. I

1823
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 2: make well being, and I cause calamity. I the Lord God,

1824
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 2: do all these things. Here again, we have this sovereign God.

1825
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 2: He will do whatever it takes to get our attention.

1826
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 2: And we know this from Job. You know, here's the

1827
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,600
Speaker 2: most righteous man on the planet, receives God's own endorsement.

1828
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 2: And what does God do. He takes away all his possessions,

1829
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 2: His ten children, seven sons, three daughters, lose their lives.

1830
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 2: They're gone. He's a physically afflicted. His wife shows up, says, honey,

1831
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 2: this curse God and die. Don't you know that made

1832
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 2: his day? But Job says, in faith, faith perfected by

1833
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 2: the sufferings. He says, I know my Redeemer lives. And

1834
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 2: though you slay me, kill me if you want, yet,

1835
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 2: I will trust you, And I think God got up

1836
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 2: off his throne and went, yes, you know. And that's

1837
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 2: what God's up to in our lives. He brings us

1838
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 2: through some of these valley experiences. It's all the testing

1839
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 2: of our faith. It's bringing us into the closest realm

1840
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: of relationship with Jesus through the fellowship of His sufferings.

1841
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 2: And this life. You know, part of us just the

1842
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 2: older you get, but part of it is the more

1843
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 2: you understand the grace and the goodness of God and

1844
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 2: you've walked with Him further. This whole life is barely

1845
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 2: a blip on the radar screen. It's just here and

1846
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 2: it's gone make every moment count. And I look back

1847
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:49,759
Speaker 2: and I go I could have done so much more,

1848
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 2: But I can't change that. But I can change what

1849
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 2: happens today when we shut this compter off. I've got

1850
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 2: a mission today as I go out, when I go

1851
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 2: get the oil changed on my car, which I'm going

1852
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 2: to do this afternoon, I'm going to look for the

1853
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 2: young lady that's going to check me in and she's

1854
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 2: gonna tell me if my car is a ready or not.

1855
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 2: Is there any way that I can be a blessing

1856
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 2: to her. Is there any way that I can move

1857
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: her just a little bit closer to Jesus. I got

1858
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 2: to stop and get some groceries and things at the

1859
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,839
Speaker 2: drug store. I mean, it's just so fun. Apart from

1860
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 2: the responsibility and the call and all that, it's just

1861
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 2: fun every day. Now, you know what, by myself, My

1862
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,679
Speaker 2: wife is in heaven, so hey. Part of my adventure

1863
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 2: now is like I said, I've always been a hunter.

1864
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 2: I love to hunt. Love the outdoors, love the fish,

1865
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,559
Speaker 2: love the challenge. Now I'm hunting for souls. I'm tracking

1866
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 2: them down the aisles. I'm looking for opportunities, and it

1867
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 2: makes my day full and fun.

1868
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 4: Oh my Dallas, we're out of time. I love you, brother,

1869
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 4: Do some more of these, but I would bring us

1870
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 4: back to robts A twenty eight. Okay, all things, yes,

1871
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 4: the passing of Nicole, our daughter, the passing of Linda,

1872
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 4: the bad things in our lives, all things, all things

1873
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 4: work together for good for those who loved God and

1874
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 4: liver his purpose. His purpose is seek and say the loss.

1875
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 4: You understand that, folks, But how does that word? How

1876
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 4: did it work? That all things work together for good?

1877
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 4: And Linda thirty seven years and died. How is of

1878
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 4: my daughter who went through teen challenge, had abuse problems,

1879
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 4: used those for God's glory, led more a peer of

1880
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 4: the world than anybody I know, quite frankly, and we

1881
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 4: lost her. How words, the good we have no idea.

1882
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 4: The good? Do you know? Good to God is how

1883
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 4: many people are brought to Him or entered into heaven

1884
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 4: because of those experiences. How many people have followed the

1885
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 4: ministry of Dallas and Linda home and have loved on

1886
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,719
Speaker 4: them and prayed for them and with them have witnessed

1887
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 4: their testimony and their joy to the very end. The

1888
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 4: Dallas adding up with that funeral, were weeping the love

1889
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 4: the thanksgiving coming out of Dallas at the funeral, and

1890
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 4: I did it at the Cole's funeral. Twenty thousand people

1891
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 4: watched the Coals celebration of life. That's good. A few

1892
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 4: more moments on earth that is good. We'll never know

1893
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,759
Speaker 4: until we get to have it. How God has used

1894
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 4: the bad in our lives because of how we reacted

1895
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 4: to the bad and praise God right on through it

1896
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 4: and trust Him through it. And that's what life's all about.

1897
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 4: That's the message that you're hearing from these two guys.

1898
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 4: He's he's a Texan. He loves to go hitt and fish.

1899
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 4: I never I couldn't shoot an animal. Baby to it.

1900
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 4: I'm a businessman, but we are one mind because we

1901
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 4: serve one God and wait one purpose. It's god purpose

1902
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 4: to seek us, save the loss. That's your purpose. Don't

1903
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:52,759
Speaker 4: forget that. See you next time.

1904
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 1: You will be like God.

1905
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 4: Human unity with God was severed and through it all,

1906
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,479
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