1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Vernic was center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: with you as well, and Senator. It was a very 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: big day Thursday, as we got part one of the 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Epstein files that were released the public by a lot 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: of conservatives that were at the White House. And then 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi came out afterwards and dropped a bomb that 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: was pretty much, Hey, I may be the Attorney General 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: in cash, but tell maybe the FBI director, but there 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: are people in New York that are hiding documents from 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: us that deal with Jeffrey Epstein. 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 2: Well that's exactly right. And let me start by saying 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: thank you to Pam Bondy for honoring the promises she made. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: I have been calling on the Department of Justice to 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: release the full Jeffrey Epstein files, and she is working 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: to do that. And so she released the first tranch 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: of information today. That was good, although a lot of 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: the observers who saw the information were underwhelmed by what 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: was in it. She released it to a group group 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: of conservative influencers online and gave them a binder with 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 2: the information and there were no no big smoking guns 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: and what came out initially. We we do know that 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: the the The new Jeffrey Epstein contact list included Alec Baldwin, 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, and Mick Jagger. But it was for people 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: who want to know who were Jeffrey Epstein's clients, who 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: was who was complicit and and and who is guilty 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: as he was of sexually abusing teenage girls. There was 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: relatively little information in the files that were released, But 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: then there was a bombshell because Pambondy accused the New 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: York FBI office of with holding significant parts of the 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: Epstein files. That that's a big, big deal, and she 31 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: did so in a formal letter that she sent to 32 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: Cash Pattel. So she sent a letter on February twenty seventh. 33 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to read you the entire letter because this 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: letter's a big deal. February twenty seventh, twenty twenty five. 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: Dear Director Patel, before you came into office, I requested 36 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein. In 37 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: response to this request, I received approximately two hundred pages 38 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs, Epstein's list 39 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: of contacts, and a list of victims' names and phone numbers. 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full set of 41 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: documents responsive to my request, and was repeatedly assured by 42 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: the FBI that we had received the full set of documents. 43 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: Late yesterday, I learned from a source that the FBI 44 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: Field office in New York was in possession of thousands 45 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: of pages of documents related to the invent instigation and 46 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: indictment of Epstein. Despite my repeated requests the FBI never 47 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: disclose the existence of these files. When you and I 48 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: spoke yesterday, you were just as surprised as I was 49 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: to learn this new information. By eight am Tomorrow, February 50 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: twenty eighth, the FBI will deliver the full and complete 51 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio 52 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: and video recordings, and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and 53 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: his clients. Regardless of how such information was obtained. There 54 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: will be no withholdings or limitations to my or your access. 55 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: The Department of Justice will ensure that any public disclosure 56 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: of these files will be done in a manner to 57 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: protect the privacy of victims and in accordance with law, 58 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: as I have done my entire career as a prosecutor. 59 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: Also directing you to conduct an immediate investigation into why 60 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: my order to the FBI was not followed. You will 61 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: deliver to me a comprehensive report of your findings and 62 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: proposed personnel action within fourteen days. I appreciate your immediate 63 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: attention to this important matter. I know that we are 64 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: both committed to transparency for the American people, and I 65 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: look forward to continuing to work with you to serve 66 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: our President and our country. Sincerely, Pamela Bondi, Attorney General. 67 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: This letter was incredible, and I actually talked to someone 68 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: that you and I both know, Chad Prather. He was 69 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: invited as one of the fifteen. He's a fellow Texan 70 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: that went to the White House, and as soon as 71 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: he left, we actually talked on the phone and he said, Ben, 72 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: he said, none of us that were invited up here 73 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: knew we were going to get the Epstein files. Number one. 74 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: We were actually brought up to the White House to 75 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: talk about communitys and we were going to meet with 76 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: the Vice President. We didn't know we're going to be 77 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: meeting with the people in the cabinet. We didn't know 78 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: we were going to be meeting with the president. We 79 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: certainly didn't know we were going to be given these 80 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: Epstein files, and he said there was two parts of 81 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: this that the big mainstream media clearly didn't understand. Or 82 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: they were angry that we got the files before they did, 83 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: and so they wanted to say that today was a 84 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: nothing burger. He said. When they gave them to us, 85 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: they said, look, there's really nothing new in here that 86 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: you're going to find. This is why we're calling it 87 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: Part one. And then they said what we want you 88 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: to know is exactly the letter that you just read, 89 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: which was we don't have the majority of the intel 90 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: that we've been demanding because there are bad actors in 91 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: the deep state who were refusing to give it to us. 92 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: In fact, what they said was even more shocking was 93 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: Pambondi did an interview with Waters last night on Fox 94 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: and she was talking about the quote two hundred pages 95 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: that she had there in essence of whistle blower that 96 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: saw the interview and said, I need to tell you 97 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: right now that you're missing a lot of pages and 98 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: they're not giving them to you from New York FBI. 99 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: And that's how fast this all came about. So you're 100 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: thinking about when you're the attorney of the United States 101 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: of America. You're going on TV and only because you 102 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: gave a page number which was about ten percent of 103 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: apparently what is actually out there based on what the 104 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: whistle bober said. This is insane that this is our 105 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: government right now and there's that many people fighting against 106 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: the will of the people who elected the president, who 107 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: had put Pambondi and Cashpit telling to these positions. 108 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: Well, and from the letter, there may be audio and 109 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: video recordings. There may be some issue that some of 110 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: the materials were seized illegally. I mean, there's a suggestion 111 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: there that regardless of how it was accessed, I want it. 112 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: But look, I got to say, listen, I worked in 113 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: the Department of Justice twenty five years ago. I have 114 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: been been working in and around law enforcement for virtually 115 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: my entire adult life. I have never seen something like 116 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: this happened. So understand, the FBI reports to the Department 117 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: of Justice, Cash Patel, his boss is Pambondi. The FBI 118 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: is in the ORG chart reporting to the Department of Justice. 119 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 2: So when the Attorney General orders the FBI, I want 120 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: to see these files. In every instance, I'm aware of 121 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: the FBI complies they're supposed to be law enforcement. If 122 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: the Attorney General says I want to see something, you 123 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: give it to the Attorney general and look, presumably we 124 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: will find out. And we'll find out I guess within 125 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: two weeks when Cash Pateel prepares his report saying here's 126 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: what happened. But it is astonishing if you have rogue 127 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: agents in the New York office of the FBI who 128 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: are just defying the Attorney General. That is a level 129 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: of open warfare that I've never seen, and it really 130 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: does indicate the need to clean house in a major way. 131 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: There was also another aspect of this, and again this 132 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: is coming from Chad and he was meeting right with 133 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: the president and the vice president and these other cabinet 134 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: members pam Bondi, Cashpateel, and he said they were also 135 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: the letter has been basically just completely misconstrued as if 136 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: there's some sort of disagreement or wedge between Pambondi and 137 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: cash Ptel. But when you understand the backstory, he said, 138 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: their lockstep. She's giving this letter out to give him 139 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: the power to then go get the answers from the demands. 140 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: And yet the media was reporting this tonight all over 141 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: the place like oh, there's a big rift between the 142 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: Attorney General and the FBI director. That is also not 143 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: the case at all. Another lie. 144 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's very clear from the letter 145 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: where it says when you and I spoke yesterday, you 146 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: were just as surprised as I was to learn this 147 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: new information. And so Cash Betel has just been confirmed. 148 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: As you know. I went to Cash Betel's swearing in 149 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: at the White House last week. He's brand new on 150 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: the job. He has a mandate to restore integrity to 151 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: the FBI. And I guess the whistleblower, whoever the source was, 152 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: contacted the Attorney General directly, and she's the one, the 153 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: Attorney General who told Cashpateel about this documents. I am 154 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 2: sure he is pissed off at what the New York 155 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: Field Office apparently did, and I fully expect he will 156 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: get to the bottom of it, and I expect they're 157 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: going to make the results of that public. I think 158 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: we're all going to know exactly who's responsible. 159 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: And why let me ask about accountability here, because you 160 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: would understand this the law more than I certainly do, 161 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: and that is, if you've been directed by the FBI 162 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: director or the Attorney General to turnover documents, and you 163 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: work in the government, you deliberately hide those documents and 164 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: do not turn them over. Are you committing a crime 165 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: or is it basically worst case scenario, you'll lose your 166 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: job and they fire you for insupportination. 167 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: Likely the latter. There's not anything it would There's not 168 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: an immediate crime that comes to mind. It's just defying 169 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: your boss. I suppose you could try to characterize it 170 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: as obstruction of justice. But but I think that the 171 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: simplest explanation, the simplest remedy would be termination. And I 172 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: expect any FBI agent that that deliberately disobeyed a direct 173 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: order from the Attorney General, I expect anyone involved in 174 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: that to be terminated. 175 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: It's an incredible story, and I think one of the 176 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: things that we should make clear is there's clearly significant information. 177 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: We've been told that Pambondi has said that there is video, 178 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: there is audio, there's a lot of recordings. 179 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: Will be clear. To be clear, we don't know that. 180 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: At the least, the letter doesn't say that. It just 181 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: says deliver the full and complete files, including audio and 182 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: video recordings. And look, lawyers tend to be pretty broad 183 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: she may not know that their audio and video recordings. 184 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: She may she may there may be, or there may 185 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: not be, but she hasn't definitively said that there are 186 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: audio and video recordings. 187 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right, that's what the letter said. But 188 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: what's interesting is from the people that were in the meeting, 189 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: they were told that this was in essence the tip 190 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: of the Iceberger that they do have audio and video 191 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: recordings that apparently have been withheld from the New York office. 192 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: And that's part of the reason why I think you're 193 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: seeing the demand come out this way is that there 194 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: must be a lot that the deep state doesn't want 195 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: us to see, which goes back to my final question 196 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: for you center on this. Why is it they don't 197 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: want us to see this? Is this because they're trying 198 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: to protect people in the political world? What would be 199 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: the reason you wouldn't want to know or for everyone 200 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: to see what it is they're desperately trying to hide 201 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: from not only us, but literally from the Attorney General 202 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: in the FBI director. 203 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: So look, I don't know, I can only speculate it. 204 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: It may be that they want to protect people who's 205 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: whose misconduct or criminal conduct is suggested or or demonstrated 206 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: in the files. I don't know that, but that certainly 207 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: could be a reason. We do know that Jeffrey Epstein 208 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: was very close to a number of Democrats, that he 209 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: was very very close to Bill Clinton. Bizarrely enough, Jeffrey 210 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: Epstein had a painting in in his his New York 211 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: townhouse of Bill Clinton in a dress wearing pumps. Is 212 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,479 Speaker 2: really bizarre. A blue dress, right, a blue dress, yes. 213 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And a lot of people may they believe that 214 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: was clearly the painting and reference to Monica Lewinsky in 215 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: the blue dress. And you got to think to put 216 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: that up and hang it in your in your home 217 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: and have that relationship, It's like, well, you must feel 218 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: pretty powerful to be to do that. 219 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: So we don't know. It may be, you know, the 220 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: reference to Regardless how the information was was accessed, that 221 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: may mean some information was acquired illegally. That's a possibility. 222 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: It may be. Look, there's there's speculation that that that 223 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein worked with intelligence operatives, either from from the 224 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: United States or other nations. I don't know that to 225 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: be the case, but that there's a host of things 226 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: that could be in there, and That's one of the 227 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: reasons why I think the Department of Justice should have 228 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: released this a long time ago, because without the information, 229 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: all people are left to do is speculate. 230 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: There was another shocking headline that also came out today 231 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: and that deals with the assassination attempt on Donald Trump 232 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: and Butler, Pennsylvania. The headline for the New York Posts 233 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: is quote would be Trump assassin may have had an 234 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: accomplice and data shows as in investigators say FBI suppressed info. 235 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't believe that headline if I wouldn't have just 236 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: had the conversation with you for the last ten minutes 237 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: that we just had about the FBI covering up at 238 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: Epstein information as well. 239 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: Well. This is a stunning article. I do not know 240 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: if it is true, but if there is evidence that 241 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: the attempted assassin, the man who shot Donald Trump and Butler, Pennsylvania, 242 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: had an accomplice or multiple accomplices, that would be a 243 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: big damn deal. And you know, I got to say, 244 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: it has been a long time. It has been two 245 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine days since President Trump was shot 246 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: at that rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, and yet we know 247 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: next to nothing about the shooter. It's almost as if 248 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: it just dropped into a memory hole and disappeared. And 249 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: I want to read some of this article from the 250 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: New York Post because it it has some incredible information 251 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: in it. It's not clear, it's not clear what's true 252 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: or not. But let me read from the New York Post. 253 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: Quote it's been almost nine months since a seemingly mild 254 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: matter twenty year old attempted to assassinate then Republican presidential 255 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: nominee Donald Trump at a rally in Butler, and we 256 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: still have no good reason why, sources told the Post. 257 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: The FBI has obstructed efforts to solve the mystery of 258 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: why Thomas Matthew Crooks, who left no manifesto, did what 259 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: he did. It's left local law enforcement, as well as 260 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Crooks's former friends, classmates, and teachers frustrated. Those who may know. 261 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: Crooks's parents, Matthew and Mary, have refused all interviews and 262 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: remain in their small, three bedroom home, sealed off from 263 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: the world. Like Hermit's neighbors say, they only leave the 264 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: house at three am to buy groceries. Quote, By the way, 265 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: why do we know nothing about that guy in Butler? 266 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: Elon Musk yelled out to the audience at Seapac last 267 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: week before warning that FBI Director Cash Battel is going 268 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of it. A veteran private 269 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: investigator from Erie, Pennsylvania, who was hired shortly after the 270 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: fateful July thirteenth event at Butler Farm to look into 271 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: crooks by a private client, told The Post he believes 272 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: a quote criminal network was operating with him at the 273 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: time of the assassination attempt, is still in existence and 274 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: still wants to kill President Trump. Doug Hagman, whose team 275 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: of six other investigators had been working the case for 276 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: months and have interviewed more than one hundred people, said 277 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: they also conducted extensive geofensing analysis of cell phones and 278 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: tablets not belonging to Crooks that were found with him 279 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: at his home, at the rifle range where he took 280 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: target practice, at the rally, and at Bethel Park High School, 281 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: where he graduated in twenty twenty two. Quote. We don't 282 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: think he acted alone, Hageman told the Post. Quote This 283 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: took a lot of coordination. In my view, Crooks was 284 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: handled by more than one individual, and he was used 285 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 2: for this assassination attempt, and I wouldn't preclude the possibility 286 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: that there were people at the rally itself helping him. 287 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: Hageman said. One of the electronic devices geolocated with crooks 288 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: at several different places at the time of the shooting 289 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: is still pinging today at Bethel Park High School. Look, 290 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true or not. I 291 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: don't know any background about this private investigator, and I 292 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: don't know if his allegations are are right or not. 293 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: But it is frustrating that the American people. Look, I'm 294 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: on the Senate Judiciary Committee. I have no information that 295 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: isn't public about who this would be assassin was, what 296 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: is motivation was what evidence there is of anyone else 297 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: being involved? And I'll tell you when when I sat 298 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: down with both Cash Betel and with Pambondi when they 299 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: were preparing for their confirmation, I had an extensive conversation 300 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: with both of them about the need for transparency that 301 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 2: when you've had four years of both the Department of 302 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: Justice and the FBI politicized and weaponized, the result is 303 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: that people don't trust the FBI. I mean. This article 304 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: in the Post repeatedly argues that the FBI is an 305 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: obstructing efforts to get to the bottom of what happened. 306 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: That that's infuriating if true, and it is very much 307 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: my hope that we'll see Pambondi and Cash Battel make 308 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: significant information about this assassination attempt public. The American people 309 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 2: have a right to know, have a right to know 310 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: if anyone else was involved with this, And I don't 311 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: know if the FBI, if they didn't put a priority 312 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: on it, I don't know, if they didn't investigate, I 313 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: don't I guess it is possible this kid acted alone. 314 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: But the absolute dearth of information is is it frustrating 315 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: and infuriating. 316 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Well, and it goes back to the point that I 317 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: think Pambondi made at the White House with many of 318 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: these conservatives, which is we're doing everything we can now 319 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: to be transparent, but there is still a very deep 320 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: state rebellion and they are hell bent on not when 321 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: the American people know what's going on. They're above us, 322 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: they think they're more important than us. They don't believe 323 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: they have to play by the rules, they don't have 324 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: to be transparent, and until you get that fixed, there's 325 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of doubting in the American 326 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: from the American people in these institutions. 327 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: I think that's exactly right. You know, the the article 328 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: says that Hageman, this private investigator, said that he was 329 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: personally escorted to the Butler County line and told to 330 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: leave twice during the course of his team's investigation. The 331 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: people who did so were either federal agents or some 332 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: type of private security and so look, and I actually 333 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: I can understand an FBI investigation that they would be 334 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: frustrated with having a private investigator interviewing the same people. 335 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: So that actually the fact that the FBI was telling 336 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: this guy, you know, buzz off, that's not shocking to me. 337 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know what investigation the FBI conducted. I 338 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: certainly don't know the results of the investigation. They haven't 339 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: made anything public to the American people, and I think 340 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: the FBI's attitude has been in recent years. They don't 341 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: know the publican answer, You don't get to know anything 342 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: if they don't want to tell you. 343 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, great point. I want to move also to another story, 344 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: and this goes back to the issue of trust. Elon 345 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: Musk and Doge. New poll numbers are out saying that 346 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: the majority of American people actually approve of what Elon 347 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Musk is doing, and they think that Doe is having 348 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: a real impact in a positive way for this country 349 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: and for taxpayers and the waste, fraud and abuse. They 350 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: want them to keep moving forward. What we're also seeing 351 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: centered at the exact same time is I would now 352 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: describe it as a clearly well organized orchestrated effort by 353 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: the media and the Democrats to ramp up their smears 354 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: against Trump early on, or I should say against Elon, 355 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: and early on, they were trying to drive a wedge 356 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: between Elon and trust Trump. You could see it in 357 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: their rhetoric where it's like, well, you know, Elon, it 358 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: thinks he's the president, and oh yeah. 359 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: The Time magazine cover story that put Elon at the 360 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: resolute desk in the Oval office was obvious at a 361 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: clumsy attempt to piss Trump off and get Trump mad 362 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: at Elon, And it was so transparent that that that 363 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 2: I think it did not remotely have the effect they 364 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: were trying to have. 365 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, backfired, but that was where you could tell they 366 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: were The first step was, well, maybe we can drive 367 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: a wedge here. That hasn't worked. So now what we're 368 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: witnessing is just a full on smear campaign against Elon Musk, 369 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: even on the View. And this was an interesting moment 370 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: for me because it's like you're getting real close to 371 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: slander and libel when you do what the View does 372 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: against Elon Musk. I don't know if they care that 373 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: they have to apologize pretty regularly now for things they 374 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: say on the air with legal notes they keep having 375 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: to make. But Joe Bahart had this to say on 376 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: the View about Elon Musk, and I want to play 377 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: it and then get your reaction to it. 378 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: And an Elon Musk kisses his butt and strokes his 379 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 3: his tiny ego or big ego, whatever it is, and 380 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: he doesn't get to do he can take a nap 381 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: while the guy was not born in this country, who 382 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 3: was born under apartheid in South Africa, so has that 383 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: mentality going on. He was pro apartheid, as I understand it, right, 384 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 3: he's a natural. Oh really, how did he do that? 385 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: Did he come over the board? Believe yeah, he allegedly 386 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 3: overstate that vs subject. But I think this is just 387 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: perfectly but wonderful for Trump. He's been taken nap and 388 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: let this foreigner, foreign agent, you know, an enemy of 389 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: the United States do his job. 390 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean, not only does she say he's an enemy, 391 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: but then she says in favor of apartheid, by the way, 392 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: not true. Came back on the air later in the 393 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: show and tried to undo that and said, Elon, don't sue. 394 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean the View they are unhinged lunatics 395 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: and they don't care about truth. But they know, you know, 396 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: the crazy thing is Joi Biharr believes what she says. 397 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's a It's amazing. Apparently Elon Musk is 398 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: the only immigrant that Joi Bihar and the crazies on 399 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: the View dislike. If you're an MS thirteen gang member, 400 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: if you're a murderer or a rapist, they're perfectly fine 401 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 2: with you. They don't have a problem with Joe Biden, 402 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: the Democrats releasing millions of criminals into America, that they 403 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 2: have no problem with. But if someone comes legally to 404 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: this country, if someone builds multiple incredible companies, creates thousands 405 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: and thousands of jobs, is an incredible innovator and then 406 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: volunteers his time to serve as nation that merits being 407 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: called a foreign agent and an enemy of the United States. 408 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: It you know, at the end of the day, what 409 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: the view was saying doesn't say much about Elon Musk, 410 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 2: but it says a lot about the media and the 411 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: left and how terrified they are of him. And I'll 412 00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: tell you tell you. Marci Captor, a Democrat congresswoman, I 413 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: had very similar comments. Listen to what she said about 414 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: Elon Musk. Apparently she enjoyed Baharror reading from the same 415 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: talking points. 416 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was in front of the United States 417 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: Capital where she said it. 418 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: Mister Musk has just been here twenty two years, and 419 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 4: he's a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself 420 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 4: the question, with the damage he's doing here, when push 421 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: comes to shove, which country is he loyalty to? South Africa, 422 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 4: Canada or the United States? And he's only been a citizen, 423 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: I'll say again, twenty two years. 424 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: By the way, I thought it was Democrats for the 425 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: last four years that were obsessed with the legal immigrants 426 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: coming into this country and saying, who is anyone else 427 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: to say that they aren't Americans and we don't even 428 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: call them illegal as you must call them immigrants, and 429 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: they're just like you and I. But all of a sudden, 430 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Elon Musk is actually 431 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: getting things done, and now they're just going to slander 432 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: him and say which countries are really little too, like 433 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: he's some sort of secret agent or bad actor for 434 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: another nation. 435 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: Well, look, I spent a good chunk of the morning 436 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: with Elon over at the White House and he met 437 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: with a number of senators talking about what he's doing 438 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: on DOGE, and it was a very interesting meeting. And 439 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: it's stunning some of the things that they're finding. They're finding. 440 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: For example, they're going into agencies and finding agencies that 441 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: have more electronic subscriptions than they have employees. Wow, And 442 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: in many instances thousands and thousands more like like thirty 443 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: thousand licenses for different electronic applications, thirty thousand licenses and 444 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand employees that order of magnitude. And so they're 445 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: going in and canceling the ones that aren't used. They 446 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: also went and checked and they said hundreds and hundreds 447 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: of them had never been open, had never even been installed. 448 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: So even of the employees, not everyone is using them. 449 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: They've never logged in, and so they can go and check, 450 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 2: all right, and so anyone who's not using it they're 451 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: canceling those those are the sorts of things they're finding. Uh, 452 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: they're really just astonishing. 453 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: Well, when you met with him today, does it seem 454 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: that he's even shocked by what he's finding. 455 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: You know, there are things like he talked today about 456 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: ghost payments, about the Treasury has computers that that that 457 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: transfer funds that make federal payments and and he says 458 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: that that that there are ghost payments that are going 459 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: out that a program officer puts in for for for 460 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: a payment to to a contractor to to to somebody, 461 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: and then the program officer retires, dies, leaves is gone, 462 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: and the payments just keep on going and and you 463 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: know it, he said, it's stunning. The Treasury. Uh, the 464 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: the Treasury computers have have a field where where where 465 00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: you categorize, okay, what is this payment for and and 466 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 2: what in the congressional appropriation is it going for? And 467 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: he said, routinely that field is left blank. He said, usaid, 468 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: they always left it but blank, he said, So there's 469 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: no way, he said, in many ways, it's incredibly difficult, 470 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: if not impossible, to audit the billions of dollars that 471 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: are going out the door because they don't keep the records, 472 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: and it was interesting Elon's comments. He said, if any 473 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: public company did this, he said, they would be massively 474 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: fined and the executives would be put in jail. 475 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: But hey, federal government just a normal way of doing business. 476 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: I think the best part is the polls are showing 477 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: that the media propaganda against Musk so far has not 478 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: been working against the president. The majority of the American 479 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: people love what Doge is doing, and as long as 480 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: he's got the people behind him, it's going to be 481 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: really interesting to see how this works out, and we're 482 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: going to keep covering it here. 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