1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Don't every day a way? 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Click yours up the Breakfast Club finish for y'all done, mister, 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: one of the most dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club, 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: Charlamagne to God, Jess Hilarious, DJ Nvy, Envy's not here 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: but lay and La Rosa is and we got some 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: special guests in the building. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 3: Man. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: I went to go see this play a couple of 9 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: weeks ago. The Outsider is how y'all brothers doing? Introduce yourselves? 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 4: Man? 11 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm Alex Joseph Grayson. I played Dallas Winston and The 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: Outsiders on Broadway. 13 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Good Morning, Alex. 14 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 5: I'm Rennie Anthony McGee. I play Steve and The Outsiders. 15 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Man, how did y'all end up in The Outsiders? The 16 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Outside has been historically white for as long as I 17 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: can remember. It was how dy'all end up in the Blade? 18 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 6: You developed this thing? 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 20 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 6: So yeah. 21 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: So, you know, in the theater world, we do these 22 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: things called workshops before we try to get an out 23 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: of town tryout, which is just sometimes it's not even 24 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: out of town. It could be in New York, you know, 25 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: off Broadway. So I was doing MJ on Broadway. It 26 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: was my first Broadway show. I was a swing, which 27 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: means I learned multiple roles. I got this audition choreographers 28 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: I had worked with before. I was praying for it. 29 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 1: The choreographers I had worked with before. I was praying 30 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: for it. And when we did it, we were working 31 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: through and they were working with this idea of different races, right, 32 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: because you have the socials and the greasers, so socioeconomically, 33 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, in the sixties, with the exception of a 34 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: small percentage black people didn't have much wealth because this 35 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: country did not allow us to have that. So we 36 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: were trying to show this story about those with who 37 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: are less fortunate going against those who have it all 38 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: but maybe are less fortunate in other ways because you know, 39 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: some of these we don't know what goes on behind 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: rich family's doors. We do not, no matter what the 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: race is. But that's kind of how we came in here, 42 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: you know. Alex kind of slid in later. Yeah, actually, 43 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: believe it or not. 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: I auditioned for an early version of The Outsiders. 45 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 6: Before the pandemic. I want to say it was like 46 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 6: twenty eighteen. 47 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: They called me in and you know, I got an 48 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,279 Speaker 3: email from my talent agent that it was for The Outsiders. 49 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: For Dally actually, and I was like, this. 50 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 6: Is the mad Dylan in the movie. This is interesting 51 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 6: that they're calling me in for this. 52 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: But it was at a period of time in which 53 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: I noticed I had been getting a lot of auditions 54 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 3: for characters and these are nonfiction. 55 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 6: These are they're fictional stories. 56 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: Sorry, So, but I did think there was a trend 57 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: where I was being called in to play these roles 58 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: that were traditionally not black men. And I don't know 59 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: if that was a reflection of something that was happening 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: on Broadway and in theater where there was a movement 61 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: to sort of change some of the faces that were 62 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: telling the story, especially in a post Hamilton world in 63 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: which we're giving these American stories to people that are 64 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: not necessarily being considered like American in appearance. So, you know, 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: I gave it a stab, but nothing really happened in 66 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen with that show didn't move forward for me. 67 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: So I had actually stopped thinking about it for a 68 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: while until about seven months ago. Now it's been it's 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: been like six or seven months that I've been with 70 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: the show, and it came around again. I auditioned for 71 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: the show before it came to Broadway, but it didn't 72 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: work out and I let it go, and luckily it 73 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: came around for me and now I'm a part of 74 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: it and it's a really great group of people that 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: I work with. The show is very exciting, it's very 76 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: physically demanding. It's very dangerous, which I'm learning firsthand. So 77 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: I have to take really good care of my body 78 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: and my health and every day take a breath. And 79 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: everybody's got different practices. I know when I see you 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: praying off on the side a lot, it's like, oh, 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: we just have to really still ourselves and care for 82 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: our instruments every time we walk on that stage. 83 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 7: Man, I was just about to go into that asking 84 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 7: all y'all rituals or y'all practices, because listen that Broadway 85 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 7: you need your voice and you need to be able 86 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 7: to project. 87 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: What exercises do you guys have to do? What can't 88 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: you do? And what you have to do? No? Well, 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: you know. 90 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: Go, you know I will say, I mean above all else. 91 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: As Alex mentioned, I'm. 92 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: A huge prayer. 93 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I have noticed during the performances where I forgot to 94 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: pray before people have gotten heard. Now for me, that's 95 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: the connection already. You know, I pray for a speedy show. 96 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: I pray for an efficient show, an enlightened show, a 97 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: fulfilling show, because oftentimes we're coming to the theater with 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: all of the things that are happening in this world, 99 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, and we have to get on that stage 100 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: and tell this story, which is a sad so now 101 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: we have to live in that. 102 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: And you know, one of the things they always talk 103 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 5: about is when. 104 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: You're acting, your body does not know the difference between 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: real and fake. So when you bring yourself to that point, 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: you're there. Yeah, even if you subconsciously know, like that 107 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: sixth sense, oh this is not really really happening. Your 108 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: body doesn't, you know. My mom read you know, I 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: love you, Pamela Mugie, you the bomb. My mom she 110 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: read there was a study that said people who go 111 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: on stage they have the same amount of adrenaline as 112 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: soldiers going into battle. Yes, yes, And then you know 113 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: it's it's not too hard to believe because you know, 114 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people are more afraid of public speaking 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: than dying. So it makes sense. 116 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: So are you retraumatizing yourself having to do that fight 117 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: scene every. 118 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: In so many words? Yes, yes, yes, I mean that's 119 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: a very that's I think there's more nuanced in that. 120 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 4: But yees, yeah, I. 121 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: Would say, you know, being being an actor, like, people 122 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: get into it for all sorts of reasons. I know 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: for me personally, I feel like I'm I'm very much 124 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: in in my purpose. I'm I I am here to 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: be uh, to be a conduit for for storytelling. I'm 126 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: here to to to bring. 127 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 6: Messages to people. 128 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: And I have been completely ushered into this this place 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: that I am in my life. It's not something that 130 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: I that I sought out. I've had so many people, 131 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: uh that have been guiding me to the place that 132 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm at today. 133 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 6: It's not it's not a choice at by by any means. 134 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: And it's my It's my fifth Broadway show, and it's like, 135 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: it's not something that I try to really make sense of. 136 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 5: It's just it's just. 137 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: Where I am and a lot of what we do 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: when it gets down to the sort of technical aspect, 139 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: just as an actor, there's a lot of psychological stuff 140 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: that we have to draw on a lot of past experiences, trauma, 141 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: being able to experience emotional hardships, highs and lows, and 142 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: then sort of like pull those things back up, and 143 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: it's not always a positive experience. So I think to 144 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: recover from that, we have to be really really invested 145 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: in and caring for ourselves like that. Like I spend 146 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: so much time recovering, like that's. 147 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 6: That's that's my free time. 148 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: My free time is about recovery, rest, just placing hands 149 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: on on my my. 150 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 6: Body, just. 151 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Stretching every every moment is about making sure that my 152 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: body feels safe, reminding myself that I'm safe, asking myself 153 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: for permission to do all of this again. Just like 154 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: Rennie said, you know, we get out there and we fight, 155 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I I have to then go 156 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: Like I know in the show, I sort of pound 157 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: my chest every night. I bang on my chest twice 158 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: in this one specific number. And then I leave stage 159 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: and I I I put I place a hand right 160 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: on my heart and I I literally say, I'm I'm sorry, 161 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I did this, and that it's okay. 162 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 6: That was That was just a story that we were. 163 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: Telling, and we trade. We're trading our time because it's 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 3: a job. This is a job at the end of 165 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: the day, and it's it's a gift to people. It 166 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: brings people joy, but it's also it's also a job, 167 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: and we're we're showing up because we have to we 168 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: have to work. 169 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 6: We don't have we don't. 170 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: Have a choice because you're you're you're black. 171 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 6: So yeah, the show. 172 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: Outside is to me is it's largely about class. 173 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 5: But you feel the. 174 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: Same, you know, obstacles, hurdles, you know, prejudices black people 175 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: would experience. So you say you're safe when you exit 176 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: the roll, but then you go to real life, so 177 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: you go from class to raise, which. 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 6: You know, yeah, so do you I truly feel safe? 179 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 5: I don't. 180 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: Oh you know, yeah, it's a yes. So like what 181 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: and then what is what is the definition of safe? 182 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 5: Come on, now? 183 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 6: What is safety? What is what is safety? 184 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 5: You know? 185 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: We talk about drawing on life experiences, you know, and 186 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: some actors they say they don't. 187 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 5: I don't. 188 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: I've never necessarily believed that. You know, yes, when you 189 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: get in that moment, it's you and your scene partners, 190 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: but you you are all that you've ever been. 191 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's never gonna not be there. 192 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: And like for me, you know, we talk about this 193 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: this idea of de rolling. You get off the stage 194 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: and you get out of the role. Some people it's 195 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: much easier than others. 196 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: Me. 197 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: I go home, I'll put on a movie. I love movies. 198 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: A movie makes me I'm thinking about this person's issues 199 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: now gone. And you know, we talk about the prep 200 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: that happens before a show, but so much of that 201 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: prep actually happens after the show, warming down, warming down 202 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: your voice, so then when you wake up you don't 203 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: feel this horse. 204 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. 205 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: You can only do so much before a show, that 206 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: you can do so much after a show, you know, 207 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: And to answer your question, no, I you know, recently, 208 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: within these past few weeks, on a personal level, I 209 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: have not felt safe. You know, I do the show. 210 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: I bring myself to this place because I don't even 211 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: want to say tears, but oftentimes it's tears. 212 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 5: You know. 213 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'm on stage and I'm seeing another black 214 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: brothern die in front of me, and then another one 215 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: and then I leave and I see that on TV 216 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: on social media, and you know, the one thing that 217 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: helps me is I am very much. I'm just gonna 218 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in prayer, I'm gonna journal, I'm gonna 219 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: watch some movies, I'm gonna play some video games, and 220 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna do what I need to do because 221 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, when this 222 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: show is over, I got another job to do, whether 223 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: it's a TV show or a film, another Broadway show, 224 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: and then we have a whole other set of problems 225 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: that that piece of work is going to bring, but 226 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: also a whole other set of joyous moments that that's 227 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: going to bring. 228 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 8: Are there resources that Broadway provides you then in those 229 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 8: circumstances like, are there like because I know y'all got 230 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 8: like coaches, right, and people that are helping you with 231 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 8: live performance and the effects and all that stuff. But 232 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 8: is there someone there that's like, let me check in 233 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 8: on y'all real quick. 234 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 4: That girl is good? I like that. 235 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so, I will say this, and this 236 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: is just in case you have any young listeners that 237 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: are like, I want to do I want to do Broadway, 238 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: or anybody of any any age, because it's not it's 239 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: not just young people that work on Broadway. I will 240 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: say it is a It is a business first and foremost, 241 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: and I say this is this is the downside. And 242 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: I wish that Broadway would learn from professional sports leagues. 243 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: The investment Number one should be in the health and 244 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: safety of the people that are keeping the business this alive, 245 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: the performers, the athletes, And I think this unfortunate thing 246 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: about commercial theater is all the attention is how do 247 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: we get butts in seats? How do we how do 248 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 3: we sell these tickets, and not necessarily in keeping the 249 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: performers healthy, And that's why Broadway sort of has the 250 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: the issues that it has. I think the focus is 251 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: in the wrong place. So there there is an investment. 252 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: We have a PT person that's there. We have one 253 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: PT person on site. I don't think that's enough. Physic 254 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: physical therapist, physical therapist. 255 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 6: I'm so sorry. 256 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have one PT person. I think there 257 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: should probably be like three or four there. There should 258 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: be there should be a mental health professional like like 259 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: a like a sports psychologist person on site that I 260 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: think there should be an acting coach on site. But 261 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 3: that doesn't have to do with ticket sales. And I 262 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: think that's just a core misunderstanding because the people that 263 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: are making the decisions about this thing don't actually have 264 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: the ability or skill set to do the thing that 265 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 3: keeps the business running. They provide, they provide the real 266 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: estate and the venue. Uh that and that's pretty much it. 267 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: Uh So, I just want the record to show too, 268 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: if Rock Nation would have got the casino on Times Square, 269 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: they wanted to do all of that for Broadway. Uh performance, 270 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there. 271 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 7: That's what I love about Window Peers because Wendell Peers 272 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 7: has a mentality. Doesn't he have an organization or foundation 273 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 7: that's trying to develop programs where you guys can have that, 274 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 7: where Broadway actors and extressists can actually have those resources, 275 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 7: even down to even down to some of the women. 276 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: Because y'all work six days a week, sometimes y'all. 277 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: Don't have a break so like, and that's why Wedell 278 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: was partnered with Rock Nation services that relief, the mental 279 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: health services. 280 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 5: It's called No we didn't. We only heard about casino. 281 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, only, That's that's why they were out there. Like 282 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 8: that's what made me realize to suck it up culture 283 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 8: in Broadway when I started looking into the casino and 284 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 8: why y'all, Why not y'all specifically, but why people were 285 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 8: so upset? And I realized that you guys looked at 286 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 8: it like, Okay, now we're gonna have even more pressure 287 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 8: to work because we got to compete with this casino. 288 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 8: But they literally had a whole setup for wellness health. Yes, 289 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 8: they for money into your guys. 290 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: They had a rock mission. I had a plan for Broadway. 291 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: They had Broadway tickets for underserved communities. It was like 292 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: a twenty million dollar proposal that they were going to 293 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: allocate the purchase tickets for in burrows like the Bronx, 294 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Brooklyn and Queens. 295 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: They had Broadway worker support, which. 296 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: Was going to be in which is going to be 297 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: invested in the childcare services, debt relief, mental health services. Yes, 298 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: damn they never told yet. 299 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: I mean we were not, uh Broadway actors were not 300 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: petitioning to stop the casino, but somebody definitely paid to 301 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: put a big no casino. So but you know, this 302 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: is this is about this is about territory. You know, 303 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: this is this is turf. 304 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 5: You know that. 305 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: So I want to ask about that. 306 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 5: The record. 307 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm I love Broway, I've been going to I've be 308 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: living in New York and the Old six me and 309 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: my wife, I take my kids. I'll go to a 310 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: lot of Broadway plays. But I feel like the Broadway 311 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: audience isn't getting younger, Like I feel like it's still 312 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: a lot of older people that going and how many 313 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: times are you going to go see outside? And how 314 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: many times are you going to go see how many 315 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: times can you go see the Lion King? 316 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: Like at some point, I. 317 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: Just don't feel like the audience is growing. I could 318 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: be wrong, but. 319 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: It's also I think that, you know, the element that 320 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: always affects everyone in this country and others money, money, money, 321 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know. 322 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 5: You have a you have a show. 323 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: There was a show on Broadway this year that set 324 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: a record, and it is the highest grossing play on 325 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Broadway ever. We won't go into the names, but I'm 326 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: sure we know which one that was. And you know, 327 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: it had too very famous film actors in it, you know, 328 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: a very famous director. 329 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 6: And why. 330 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah it was, but you know, it set a record. 331 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 5: It's what it is. 332 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: I think the highest grossing play off Broadway ever. There 333 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: were no nominations for that show as far as I remember, 334 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's the element of who 335 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: has the money to pay to go? Like you said, 336 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: you are taking who your wife and your kids. Your 337 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: kids aren't taking you. They don't have the money you do, right, 338 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: So I would naturally think that as we continue to 339 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: move in this into the future. You know, It's true. 340 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: The people who have the money are the people who 341 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: have more experience, you know, the people who are older. 342 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, so I and again, the whole game is 343 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: it's a business. You know, we we are like again, 344 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: why you know I'm sitting here, like, why didn't we 345 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: know that? All I knew about was the casino? That 346 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: was probably not on purpose, like you said. 347 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 4: No nomination. 348 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: I think Broadway is ripe for expansion, especially like with 349 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: you know, all the AI stuff. Just what's happening with 350 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: on screen work right now. I think, you know, studios 351 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: want to save money on movie production, TV show production. 352 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 3: I think this is a really really great time for 353 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: live theater to really have a renaissance, But it requires expansion. 354 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: And then you know, it's like what is Broadway? 355 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 6: People love Broadway? What is what is Broadway? Is it? 356 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: Is it a known brand that is only is it? 357 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: Is it only these theaters? Or can can Broadway be 358 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 3: more than just these few theaters in the Times Square area? 359 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 6: Can't can it be more venues? Like like people do. 360 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: Theater all over the place, and why does it have 361 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: to take place in these few buildings here? And I 362 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: think that there's a there's a branding problem, and there's 363 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: an accessibility issue that's been going on for years and 364 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 3: it's not really it's not really that hard, but there 365 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 3: are a few people that have ownership of what that is. 366 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: And I think that's what needs to expand because once 367 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: that that ownership is sort of spread out a little bit, 368 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 3: I think we can start to think a little bit 369 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 3: more freely about how we get people into these spaces. 370 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: I agree with you because my biggest my biggest fear 371 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: is that you know, in the next three to five years, 372 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: there's not gonna be any real investments in that Times 373 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: Square area. And if you see what Time Square is 374 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: going now, like Tome Square, aint a place that you 375 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: really want to be, like you know, I mean there's nothing, 376 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: don't feel the safest, it's nothing new and sexy drawing 377 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: you there, like you're going for a specific reason. But 378 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: the most people they are taurus for in the next 379 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: three to five years, if there's no new investments in 380 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: the Times Square, what draw is there other than Broadway? 381 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: But how is that going to also impact Broadway? 382 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean I always say, like right now, with where 383 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: things are, what is truly the difference between Broadway and 384 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: Vegas a Vegas show, Right, what is what was it 385 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties that made Broadway Broadway and 386 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Vegas Vegas? 387 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: I can tell you what I think is wrong people 388 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: to Vegas now all of the the legacy acts from 389 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: our generation that are actually going there and doing residencies. Right, 390 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: So it's the ushers, you know, Gez got with that 391 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 2: new addition. 392 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 5: Has been there. 393 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: That's my that's mine, that's mine, that's it. 394 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so there have to be just something new 395 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: injected into that area. 396 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 7: But you know, you just made me think of that, 397 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 7: Alex you just because I really didn't pay attention to 398 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 7: that Broadway is only New York City Times Square. Yeah, 399 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 7: I literally did not even think about that being that way. 400 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: It can be in LA. It should be in LA. 401 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 7: It can be somewhere down south, it can be like 402 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 7: why is it only subjected to in Atlanta? 403 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 6: Atlanta? 404 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 5: That would be amazing, you know, you know. 405 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, you know, I just didn't think of that 406 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: until you said that. 407 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: So and it has I mean, what what like Broadway? 408 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 3: You know what whatever it is, there's this there's like 409 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: a spiritual sort of like chokehold that it has on people. 410 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: But you know what, what is it that relinquishes that hold? Uh, 411 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: so that people can find that same sort of joy 412 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 3: and be willing to support work that is not in 413 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: those in those spaces, Uh, theater are should be artists 414 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: for everyone, right, Broadway is the height of commercial theater. 415 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: It's not the it's not the greatest form of live 416 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 3: performance that is happening, but it's it's got the loudest 417 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: megaphone as far as you know, with advertising budget to 418 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 3: get the message about like come see our show. But 419 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: it's it's not necessarily like cutting edge all the time. 420 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: It's not necessarily making people really really think. 421 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 6: Especially now it's. 422 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: All about revivals, it's all about movie. Yeah, it's it's 423 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 3: all about IP But that's the same thing. That's that's 424 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: the big thing with the commercial space, Like the people 425 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: with money only want to invest in these sure things. 426 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: And what's the biggest hit show right now? It's none 427 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: of those things. It's Hamilton, an original show, which is 428 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 3: I mean, like the story is not original, but like 429 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: it is that idea is wholly original. 430 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: Which is great because it feels like it's all the 431 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: things that Broadway does not. Like I'm just speaking from 432 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: the outside looking at Yeah, Hamilton is hip hop, it's black, 433 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: it's brown. It's like we don't want that element over here. 434 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to take risks. You have to take risks, 435 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: and you have to try new things to to gain 436 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: the trust and love of audiences like you. You have 437 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: to go there. So like, you can't be successful if 438 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: you are playing it safe and you're you know, you're 439 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: just trying to rehash these old things. That doesn't really 440 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 3: work on paper. But but how do you convince people 441 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: that hold all the cards to take these risks money? 442 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: And that's why even you know, another plated I thought 443 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: generated a lot of great assignment on Broadway was Ain't 444 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: No More Jordan Google Man. It's a phenomenal show, but 445 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: people didn't show up to watch it like they should. 446 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: Have generational talent. I mean, yeah, generational talent. 447 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: I still think it's it's it's that element of again, 448 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: like when my parents were kids, you had to dress 449 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: up to go to Broadway. It was an event, just 450 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: like going on an airplane. You had to dress up 451 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: to go on an airplane nowadays. And no disrespect, because 452 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in come as you are but 453 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: when you go and you see a line standing outside Broadway, 454 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, one fourth the people addressed up, that's usually 455 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: the older generation, and then you got all the kids. 456 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: You know, when I was a kid, I always thought 457 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: Broadway is basically like going to church, you know, like 458 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: there was no such thing as formal wear. It was 459 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: church clothes, you know what I'm saying. So I think 460 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: nowadays too, like I said, with the money aspect, which 461 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: has always been a thing, and they're trying to make 462 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: it more accessible. But when start when you start bringing 463 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: in these ips that it's, oh, kids are going to 464 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: love this, but kids can't afford to see it, you know, 465 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: So then what you have like one or two days 466 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: a year where it's like discounted tickets. How discounted all 467 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: the tickets? You know what I'm saying, And like we're 468 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: really cool. In about a week or so, we're going 469 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: to start what we call our school schedule. So now 470 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: we're going to have the schools come in during the matinees. 471 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: Those are the best days because then you see like 472 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: all the theater, the crazy theater techno stuff. You saw, 473 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: the kids are like whoa you know, you know, and 474 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: it gives us energy, you know. But I don't know 475 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: what the fix is because it's been like this for 476 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: so long, you know, and it's the same idea. You know, 477 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: we as actors were always asking for things. And I 478 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: understand also where like the producers come from, because it's 479 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: like it's not like you're just gonna stop asking for 480 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: things when we give it to you. So there's that 481 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: element too. I don't know what the fix is. I 482 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: just know, like I think the goal for us is 483 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: to keep bodies that look like us, to keep bringing 484 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: them in, whether it is to do theater, to work 485 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: in theater, to see theater, you know. And again, like 486 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: I said, our lives aren't just theater. 487 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 5: You know. 488 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: We could walk away from the show tomorrow and he 489 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: could end up doing a movie. I could end up 490 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: doing a TV show. 491 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: You know. 492 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: It's we have to do everything nowadays, you know. But 493 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: I do believe firmly theater will be the last thing 494 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: to be taken over by AI if that ends up 495 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: being a thing, because you can't replicate real bodies in 496 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: a real space, not yet. 497 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 4: You just can't. 498 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: You know, this is in Westworld, you know, this is 499 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: a terminator. You can't do that yet, And so I 500 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, it's going to 501 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: be brainstorming. How do we make it more accessible? How 502 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: do we convince the people who are making the most 503 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: money from this to make it more accessible? 504 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: I mean, for me, Man, I think what you said 505 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: is so true when you look at something like Hamilton, right, 506 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: if I was a producer in that space, I'd be 507 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: looking for more at oos. So you know what's after that. 508 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: Hamilton's adding people like you the outside, but it's also 509 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: that ain't no mores. But it's also the MJ the musicals, 510 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: like if you see that audience coming there and being 511 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: energized by it, and people liking this style of hell 512 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 2: Alicia keys Hell's kitchen, give me more of that, Give 513 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 2: give me more of a reason to, you know, want to. 514 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: Be sorry for you because, as I said earlier, also 515 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: shout out to Myles Frost. I was a part of 516 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: the original past. I was a swing and him and 517 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: I were pretty good friends. And it was interesting because 518 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm a Michael Jackson stand. I had another show that 519 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: I could have gone on tour to do and because 520 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: I said I would never swing, but I said, first 521 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 1: Broadway show and it's Michael Jackson. 522 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 5: I'm taking it. 523 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: Those first few shows, the audiences were so. 524 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 6: Low. 525 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: There was not a lot of people in seats. We 526 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: weren't doing publicity and things like that, and you know, 527 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: obviously there was some questionable things out at the time 528 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: about Michael. After the Tony Awards, all of a sudden, 529 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: our houses are filled, you know. And I remember sitting 530 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: there just with the faith of like being on Broadway 531 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: for the first time, the excitement of it. People would 532 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: be like, Man, I'm worry. Man, I'm like, why you worry? 533 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: This is Michael Jackson. This is Michael Jackson. 534 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: You know. 535 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: The reason they're not in seats is because we haven't 536 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: put it out there. But as soon as we put 537 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: it out there, you know what, that's exactly what happens. 538 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 4: Because he's big in Europe, he's bro he's. 539 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: Everywhere, you know, and Michael no disrespect to anyone's opinions. 540 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is Michael is the goat. And 541 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: that is why his show, I said, even if it 542 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: was bad, would make money because it's Michael Jackson. It 543 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: just so happened to be brilliant. You know, our show, 544 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: I personally believe it is brilliant. There is nothing like 545 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: what happens in The Outsiders on stage in America right now, 546 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing like it. But that's the issue we need 547 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: to how do we get people to see it who 548 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: don't have the money to see it, you know? And 549 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: I think that's what Broadway should be about. It should 550 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: be about, you know, like when the kids come and 551 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: they see the show and then they're sitting standing outside 552 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: and you know, we walk outside. 553 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 5: It's like we're celebrities to them. You know. 554 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, and that's that maybe their first Broadway show. 555 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the I don't know 556 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: what the secret is. I don't know what it is. 557 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what the solution is. 558 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 6: But well I will say that. 559 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: You know that that Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders show that was 560 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: on Netflix, The Documents, they did a Netflix series that 561 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 3: was sort of like the process of like making the 562 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: team and their tryouts and everything. Every Broadway show, every 563 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: Broadway show should have a fully produced series about the 564 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: audition process, about the cuts. Get allow people audiences at 565 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 3: home that don't They don't even have to pay for 566 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: the price of a ticket. They could just be paying 567 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: for their subscriptions. I don't know why Broadway tickets are 568 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: not on a payment plan corner or after pay come on, 569 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: come on, But you'd have to leave your your tower 570 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: to like see what's happening on Earth to find out 571 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: that information. But you you create a series like that, 572 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: you allow people to build a relationship. 573 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 6: We have so many things like this. 574 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: We have American Idol, we have all these we have 575 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: all of these sort. 576 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 6: Of elimination shows. People are familiar with that. 577 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: You produce those series, you spend the money, you you 578 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: get to people at home, You allow them to build 579 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: a relationship with with everybody, and then they can go 580 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: see the people in real life when they go see 581 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: the show and you've you've created uh stars, Yeah, that 582 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: people have a personal relationship with and then maybe if 583 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: you can afford the ticket, you you make your trip 584 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: to New York and you see it. But I mean 585 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: they've kind of done that. They did that with Legally 586 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: Blonde and Greece back in the day. 587 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 4: Remember cheer on Netflix. 588 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, kind of worked all look crazy for some 589 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 8: of them, but they turned into like really big stars, 590 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 8: like outside of cheering and cheerleading, and people came cheerleading 591 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 8: got into their world and wanted to go see them cheers, that. 592 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: Kid popping, Yeah, that Dance Academy. It was like, there's 593 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: the group, there's that group, and they had that document. 594 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: They had like a whole competition show, you know. But no, 595 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: if that would be so smart, if they were. 596 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: People want to know what happens behind People want to 597 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: know what happens behind the scenes. 598 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: Yeah they do, yeah they Yeah. 599 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: If somebody can pull it together and pull it off, 600 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: hell yeah, I think that would make a difference. Well listen, man, 601 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: I got to see Outsiders. I'm the only one I. 602 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 8: Really I read the book. I had to in school. 603 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 8: That's why when you said the kids day, I was like, 604 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 8: that's cool to yes, but yeah, I haven't seen it. 605 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: I'm coming. 606 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: And again a testament to you know, like I said, 607 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, my mother and my father we believe that 608 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: Michael was going to be successful. 609 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 5: It is because it's still on Broadway, you know. 610 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: And when I did Outsiders, you know, I had to 611 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: leave MJ and I know my you know, my dad 612 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: was very much about man, you know, in the future, 613 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: you may not be able to do that if you 614 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: don't have the funds to do this. 615 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 5: But I was so glad I made that decision because. 616 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: Outsiders the book, like you said, so many kids have 617 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: read it. I was like, again, even if the show 618 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: is bad, it will still make some money because the 619 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: demographic is there. That and these producers know that. They 620 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: know that, which is why they fund something like The Outsiders, 621 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, as opposed to Hamilton, which back in the 622 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: day probably would have been a risk, you know, because 623 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: it's like, now, you want to do this old American 624 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: story that the majority of these people are white, but 625 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna cast them as people of color. I could 626 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: only imagine being in the room waiting for the producers 627 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: seeing what they say about that. 628 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 629 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 7: But whether we want to admitte, the weather people want 630 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 7: admitting and everybody like a little black. 631 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 5: They do, they do. 632 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: Listen, man, thank y'all for joining us. Make sure y'all 633 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: go out there and check the Outsiders out on Broadways. 634 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: It's every day right Monday through Friday. 635 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 6: Monday's our day off. 636 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: Tuesday through Sunday shows a week May Jesus, y'all white 637 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: people eight times a week. 638 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't give give up the playff. 639 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: Get up, man, hats off. I'm so proud of y'all brothers. 640 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 7: Y'all do this, y'all do this six days a week 641 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 7: that it's hard. 642 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 4: I know it's hard, and I know y'all barely have life. 643 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 6: It's fun, though, and. 644 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 4: I love that it is. 645 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 7: But it ain't really much that y'all do outside of this, right, Yeah, 646 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 7: But it's great that you love. 647 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 5: What you do. 648 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: And I'm probably I can't wait to see all the 649 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 4: stage and tell. 650 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: Them to follow you. 651 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: At Renny Underscore Anthony on Instagram. That's r E N 652 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: N I Underscore Anthony. 653 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: Uh At Alex j G Sings on Instagram. At Alex 654 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: a l e x j G s I n G 655 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: j G Sings on Instagram. 656 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: All ready, Alex, thank You's the breakfast club, every day. 657 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 5: Breakfast club. 658 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: You don't finish for y'all dumb