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Speaker 1: the baby, and I said to her. I said to her,
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Speaker 1: to do. My favorite NFL weekend of the year just ended,
Speaker 1: and that it's not the lead today because we did
Speaker 1: get a call it a semi classic National championship game
Speaker 1: last night. The game was an a min the storylines
Speaker 1: were in a triple plus. So we will get to
Speaker 1: all of that. Then we will get to the divisional
Speaker 1: round from the weekend, and we will get to what
Speaker 1: should not have been a difficult assignment for my colleagues
Speaker 1: in the media, but it is simply too much for
Speaker 1: them at times. I guess to follow the logical consistency
Speaker 1: of if I regularly call a certain player not only
Speaker 1: the best player in the league, but maybe the most
Speaker 1: talented player I've ever seen, and speak in those hyperbolic
Speaker 1: terms for turnover playoff games, probably shouldn't happen. But that's it.
Speaker 1: It's a bridge too far for some. So we will
Speaker 1: get to all of that, but first we have to
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Speaker 1: Warriors and for well more so for Jimmy Butler than
Speaker 1: for the Warriors. I should start with the player rather
Speaker 1: than the team, but that's a torn acl and for
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, and at his age, I that might be
Speaker 1: an abrupt end to Jimmy Butler as a super impactful
Speaker 1: NBA player. It's thirty five years old. You now expect
Speaker 1: him to be out at least, you know, to this
Speaker 1: point next year. I would call it probably the All
Speaker 1: Star break next year. That's brutal for a guy who
Speaker 1: I believe is a future Hall of Famer and such
Speaker 1: a unique career. You hate to see him suffer that injury.
Speaker 1: And for the team. That's just a wrap for the Warriors.
Speaker 1: Like now, the the pipe dream of trading for Giannis
Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense, and it they I don't know
Speaker 1: what they do with the deadline. But I know that
Speaker 1: for the Warriors, who were a middling team as is,
Speaker 1: that's a rap for them. Sadly, the All Star starters
Speaker 1: have been announced in both conferences, Lebron not one of them.
Speaker 1: That's fine. If somehow Lebron is not named to the
Speaker 1: All Star team, given the precedent of Wizards Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: and final year Kobe Bryant, I will do an entire
Speaker 1: show on it. I'm telling you guys right now, heads up,
Speaker 1: it will be a basketball crime if Lebron James in
Speaker 1: year twenty three, particularly playing at the level that he is,
Speaker 1: but with the precedent of if you're a no doubt
Speaker 1: statue guy in the not just for a team, but
Speaker 1: for the league, you're gonna be invited to the All
Speaker 1: Star Game, as Jordan was with the Wizards, and as
Speaker 1: Kobe was in his final year. No matter what, if
Speaker 1: they decide for Lebron that no longer is the case,
Speaker 1: it'll be an outrage. But I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And Eric b Enemy going back to the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs and some other head coach hirings. Bob Sala goes
Speaker 1: to the Titans. Kevin Stefanski goes to the Falcons. You
Speaker 1: wonder if Stefanski wishes he had known the Bills job
Speaker 1: was coming open before he took that Falcons job. And
Speaker 1: Jeff Halfley goes to the Dolphins. I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and go on the record and say I don't think
Speaker 1: the Halfley thing is gonna work. I think the Stefanski
Speaker 1: thing will be fine. And I'm a little optimistic about Sala.
Speaker 1: If cam Ward is the guy that some people hope
Speaker 1: he can be, I think Sala has shown he'll give
Speaker 1: you a great defense. We've never seen him be a
Speaker 1: head coach with a good quarterback, so we'll see. Reminder
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Speaker 1: greatly helps us out National Championship game last night, Demonsey,
Speaker 1: let's get to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, last night Indiana capped off their perfect season with
Speaker 2: the National Championship. They pulled a game from Miami. How
Speaker 2: impressed were you with the heisman, Fernando Mendoza and the Hoosiers.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll get to Mendoza second, the Hoosiers first. I
Speaker 1: Am not going to spend as much time on this
Speaker 1: as maybe others because this is the rare sports topic
Speaker 1: where I just don't think there are even allowable differing opinions.
Speaker 1: It is quite simply, as a matter of fact, not
Speaker 1: as a matter of an opinion, as of opinion, one of,
Speaker 1: if not the greatest program turnarounds in the history of
Speaker 1: college sports. What Kurt Signetti is done at Indiana in
Speaker 1: two years is unprecedented in major American sports. And even
Speaker 1: after the year they had last season, this team was
Speaker 1: more than one hundred to one to win this championship,
Speaker 1: and to go through the gauntlet that they did, to
Speaker 1: go sixteen and zero, to be as buttoned up and
Speaker 1: as well coached, and as just damn near flawless at
Speaker 1: the fundamentals, it's unlike anything any of us have ever
Speaker 1: seen in our lives. The camp and this is I
Speaker 1: guess maybe some would say me showing my Midwestern roots,
Speaker 1: but the comp would be Bill Snyder at Kansas State.
Speaker 1: Bill Snyder took over what was the worst team in
Speaker 1: major college football. And just a little context there, Kansas
Speaker 1: State under it, I'll just read you the records of
Speaker 1: its previous coaches before Bill Snyder. Okayh to ten, four
Speaker 1: and twenty six, fourteen and twenty four, fourteen and thirty four,
Speaker 1: eight and sixty, thirty three and fifty two, six and
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty six and twenty one, and then the
Speaker 1: coach right before Bill Snyder went two and thirty. That's
Speaker 1: the team Bill Snyder took over, and by year five
Speaker 1: they were a top twenty five team. By year ten
Speaker 1: they were in contention for the national championship and they
Speaker 1: won one, two, three, four five. They had seven ten
Speaker 1: or eleven win seasons. That was the greatest turnaround in
Speaker 1: the history of college football. Prior to this, it took
Speaker 1: years to do it. They won year were maybe had
Speaker 1: a chance to play for a national title, and it
Speaker 1: was just considered unreal that they were a perennial top
Speaker 1: twenty five team. Indiana prior to Kurt Signetti won two, three,
Speaker 1: four five six, had six years in one one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty years is a program demonse. Six out of
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty where they were in the top
Speaker 1: twenty five. They had one year or I'm sorry, two
Speaker 1: years nineteen forty five and nineteen sixty seven when they
Speaker 1: were in the top ten. The year before he got there,
Speaker 1: the three years before two and ten, four and eight,
Speaker 1: three and nine. He gets there, they're eleven and one
Speaker 1: and in the playoff and they lose in the first round.
Speaker 1: And then there's sixteen and zero.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Unprecedented and I can't conceptualize it being duplicated. There is
Speaker 1: there is no comp because Indiana was arguably the worst
Speaker 1: program in college football and within two years they just
Speaker 1: ran the gauntlet to a national championship, and they didn't.
Speaker 1: And people can say, oh, it's in I l it's this,
Speaker 1: they didn't. It's a lot of James Madison kids. Now
Speaker 1: a lot of them are older. I get that, and
Speaker 1: they have the number one pick of the draft at
Speaker 1: their quarterback as there, but it's still just an incomprehensible accomplishment.
Speaker 1: And then for Mendoza, he go from a two star
Speaker 1: recruit that Miami didn't want to recruit even though he
Speaker 1: was from there to the consensus number one pick of
Speaker 1: the draft. And he looks the part and he talks
Speaker 1: the part of a franchise quarterback. His toughness is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He's six'. FIVE I the intangibles seem to be. Unquestioned
Speaker 1: the toughness seems to be. Unquestioned and we'll see if
Speaker 1: he's good enough to do the, impossible which is make
Speaker 1: The raiders. Relevant but The raiders are gonna get their.
Speaker 1: Quarterback it's gonna Be Fernando. Mendoza and we'll see what
Speaker 1: coach he, gets and we'll see if he can be
Speaker 1: joined with a coach that knows that what he's, doing
Speaker 1: and see if all of a, sudden THE Afc west
Speaker 1: becomes the best quarterback division there is. Potentially and so
Speaker 1: shout out To. Mendoza his story is, great his family's.
Speaker 1: Great that run to essentially win the national championship is
Speaker 1: an all time. Moment AND i and also shout out To,
Speaker 1: indiana WHO i did, pick WHO i thought could steal
Speaker 1: it as good As signetti. WAS i thought the decision
Speaker 1: up three with two minutes left to kick a field
Speaker 1: goal on fourth and five was. Insane you guys know
Speaker 1: my feeling on being up three rather than up. Six
Speaker 1: i'd actually probably rather go for a fourth down and
Speaker 1: miss it deep in the enemy territory with two minutes
Speaker 1: left and be up, three then kick a field, goal
Speaker 1: then kick, off give him decent field, position and be up.
Speaker 1: Six and that's exactly what he, chose the latter rather
Speaker 1: than the, former and it looked like it was gonna bite.
Speaker 1: Him but then the always POLARIZING i Guess Carson beck
Speaker 1: made the one really bad decision he made all night
Speaker 1: and they. Lose but the right team one In miami
Speaker 1: deserves a ton of. Respect they were right. There they
Speaker 1: could have stolen the whole. THING i Thought Chrysto baul
Speaker 1: did a magnificent. Job they're running back number four And
Speaker 1: Malachi tony are gonna be future awesome pros And Bain
Speaker 1: man Oh. MAN i hope bain is there at number
Speaker 1: nine for the The. CHIEFS i doubt he will, be
Speaker 1: BUT i hope he. Is unbelievable season From. Miami the
Speaker 1: most controversial inclusion in the college football playoff had the
Speaker 1: ball on the plus side of the fifty down six
Speaker 1: chance to win the title and made. Up you, know
Speaker 1: kid made the bad. Throw But indiana is the story
Speaker 1: of this college football season and one of the greatest.
Speaker 1: Stories it's, again it's not. Hyperbole one of the greatest
Speaker 1: stories in the history Of american sports is What Kurt
Speaker 1: signetti just did In. Indiana you can't compet to any
Speaker 1: pro sport, turnaround because pro sports are an even level
Speaker 1: ish playing. FIELD i don't know what to comp it,
Speaker 1: to but it. Is it would feel like if somebody
Speaker 1: all of a sudden took over THE umkc basketball team
Speaker 1: and within two years they went undefeated and won the.
Speaker 1: Championship just seems, impossible all. Right my favorite weekend of
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Speaker 1: first game of the. Weekend Bill's. Broncos let's get to
Speaker 1: it big.
Speaker 2: Stuff so The broncos ended The bills season On, saturday
Speaker 2: Got sean McDermott, fired so they obviously lost this. Game
Speaker 2: Josh allen had four. Turnovers do you think that the
Speaker 2: team built around him kind of Failed Josh? Allen or
Speaker 2: do you think That Josh allen failed The bills with his?
Speaker 1: Turnovers Defending LEAGUE mvp had four turnovers in a playoff,
Speaker 1: game including one of the most cartoonish fumbles in the
Speaker 1: history of the. League that, Happened, okay BEFORE i even
Speaker 1: get in that that. Is you don't have to be
Speaker 1: a die hard sports fan to. Understand, oh that's probably
Speaker 1: that's probably why they. Lost, yeah BEFORE i get to
Speaker 1: that piece of, it let me say this on the front, end,
Speaker 1: Sincerely AND i Know broncos fans aren't gonna want to
Speaker 1: hear this from, me and they might Say i'm full of. Shit.
Speaker 1: WHATEVER i can't remember a more gutting postseason injury than
Speaker 1: the one The broncos suffered to have won the game
Speaker 1: be celebrating that you're going to the conference championship game at,
Speaker 1: home have Beaten Josh allen and have watched Both nicks
Speaker 1: play one of in my, opinion best games of his,
Speaker 1: life and two separate times come through for you in
Speaker 1: just huge spots before the half to put The bills on,
Speaker 1: tilt which it's ten to ten with thirty seconds left
Speaker 1: And Josh allen in the first, Half Josh allen has zero,
Speaker 1: turnovers The bills are feeling. Fine Bow knicks hits that
Speaker 1: deep bomb to the front corner of the end zone
Speaker 1: to put The bills on their back, foot and then
Speaker 1: late in the game down four drives them, down puts
Speaker 1: them ahead with a minute. Left like whatever Skepticism i've
Speaker 1: had about your, quarterback he was nails On saturday. Afternoon
Speaker 1: however ANNOYING i have Found Sean payton to. Be he
Speaker 1: called a hell of a, game and you're, Celebrating you're feeling,
Speaker 1: great you really think you can win the Super, bowl
Speaker 1: and then you find out on a somewhat nothing play
Speaker 1: that no one even noticed your quarterback breaks his, an
Speaker 1: broke his, ankle and kneeds. Surgery it's just a stomach
Speaker 1: punch of all stomach, punches AND i do a Legitimate,
Speaker 1: Again broncos, Fans you're allowed to hate, Me it's. FINE
Speaker 1: i legitimately feel sick for, you, guys AND i don't it.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's in the same bucket As Haliburton game seven
Speaker 1: and the one you kind of because he had been
Speaker 1: dealing with an injury that kind of specter. Loomed this
Speaker 1: was just so out of. NOWHERE i don't even know.
Speaker 1: Now on the bright, side it shouldn't impact your next
Speaker 1: season at, all but this is who knows what next
Speaker 1: season's gonna, Be So BRONCO'S i feel sick for, you,
Speaker 1: sincerely and you guys have proven me wrong all, year
Speaker 1: AND i just and. Bow If bo's gonna have a
Speaker 1: come back down To earth, moment it ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: this season because he ended last season or he ended
Speaker 1: that he ended this. Season pardon. Me with probably the
Speaker 1: best game of his, career all things, considered and in
Speaker 1: my favorite football weekend of the year With Drake may
Speaker 1: And Matt stafford And Josh allen and. C. J stroud
Speaker 1: And Sam, darnold all those guys Playing Bo nicks played
Speaker 1: the best. Game it just is what it. Is AND
Speaker 1: i wonder why that version of COMMENTARY i just did
Speaker 1: about Bone knicks so many folks have trouble doing in
Speaker 1: the other. Direction it's one thing to say this, guy
Speaker 1: this team THAT i have always been down, on OR
Speaker 1: i have always, doubted he with his play proved me.
Speaker 1: Wrong it does feel like people are have an easier
Speaker 1: time doing that leap than the opposite, one which is this,
Speaker 1: guy this, team this player THAT i have elevated beyond
Speaker 1: any realistic place that is. Justifiable his play proved me.
Speaker 1: Wrong and instead of being able to do that After
Speaker 1: Josh allen's four turnover playoff, game folks are just going
Speaker 1: out making a fools of. Themselves SO i understand The
Speaker 1: bills would not have been there Without Josh. Allen no,
Speaker 1: shit that is That if the standard is standard for
Speaker 1: criticism is if a guy is the biggest reason a
Speaker 1: team got to a, point then criticizing his play it
Speaker 1: at that point is. Unfair THEN i guess we can
Speaker 1: never criticize ANY nba superstar for a playoff performance, ever
Speaker 1: because every SINGLE nba superstar is the reason their team
Speaker 1: gets to the. Postseason and so THEN i guess if
Speaker 1: You james harden, it you're just an, asshole if you're
Speaker 1: like he cost his, team because the thirty FIVE iq, responses,
Speaker 1: well would they have been there without? Him, no they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Have SO i guess it's all it's all reputational free.
Speaker 1: Roles it just Doesn't and here this is it is
Speaker 1: not demon's it's not complicated the analysis Of bill's broncos
Speaker 1: it's really.
Speaker 2: Not, Oh Josh, Allen Josh, allen go, ahead he pooped the.
Speaker 1: Bed, yeah he.
Speaker 2: Definitely he messed up pretty. BADLY i mean it's, uh
Speaker 2: it's four. Turnovers that's that's a. LOT i was surprised
Speaker 2: When germany got, fired to be, HONEST i MEAN i
Speaker 2: know that is go. Ahead, NO i just know that
Speaker 2: this is their, year and you, know if they lost
Speaker 2: to The broncos or if they just lost in this playoff,
Speaker 2: front it was gonna look. Bad but in that instance
Speaker 2: where it was four, TURNOVERS i just felt like they
Speaker 2: might have let it ride a little.
Speaker 1: Bit but, YEAH i thought so. Too, Maybe and we'll
Speaker 1: get to the McDermott. Piece but, Guys i'm listening AND
Speaker 1: i DMed bill about, This Bill. Barnwell i'm listening To
Speaker 1: barnwell this. Morning who you guys, KNOW i have as
Speaker 1: much respect for his football opinions as anyone in the.
Speaker 1: World And i'm stunned because he's talking about how he
Speaker 1: thought McDermott screwed up by not really impressing Upon Josh
Speaker 1: allen when they got the ball back with twenty seconds
Speaker 1: left that he can't do something. Dumb And bill, said
Speaker 1: AND i, quote you have to be aware you have
Speaker 1: a lunaticket quarterback and it the agency removal from the
Speaker 1: soon to be thirty year old defending LEAGUE, mvp, like,
Speaker 1: well we can't try to go get points here at
Speaker 1: the end of the half because the guy might run
Speaker 1: for no. Reason by the, way the scramble, was even
Speaker 1: if he hadn't been. Sacked the scramble was a dumb.
Speaker 1: Play i'm, sorry even if he hadn't, fumbled because they
Speaker 1: had no, timeouts like you weren't Gonna it was just
Speaker 1: a dead play the moment you don't throw the, ball
Speaker 1: but that guy might just hold the ball like a
Speaker 1: loaf of bread and lose the. Football you just gotta know. That.
Speaker 1: Okay That so there's four, turnovers. Right the first one
Speaker 1: is right before the end of the. Half it's the
Speaker 1: worst fumble of THE nfl. Season the second one is
Speaker 1: right after the. Half it's a blind side hit. Him
Speaker 1: you'd like him to hold onto the, ball but a
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks have problems holding onto the ball this.
Speaker 1: Weekend you want to give him a slight pass on,
Speaker 1: that so be. It the third one is right after
Speaker 1: Bo nicks makes his only. Mistake you go for a
Speaker 1: kill shot you don't need, to in a decent down
Speaker 1: and distance on the fringe of field goal, range and
Speaker 1: you throw a bad. Pass the fourth one is the
Speaker 1: allegedly controversial. Interception more on that in a. Minute and
Speaker 1: in between the third and the, fourth you had two.
Speaker 1: Passes one was, easy one was. Hard that would have
Speaker 1: won the. Game you Had Khalil shakir on a wide
Speaker 1: receiver screen THAT i know he would have scored a
Speaker 1: touchdown on because he did score a touchdown on. It
Speaker 1: but then we saw you one hopped it to, him
Speaker 1: and then what would have been a tough pass To
Speaker 1: Dawson knox in the waning seconds that you. Missed now is?
Speaker 1: Art is that asking a lot of the? Quarterback not?
Speaker 1: Really but is it certainly holding him to a highest.
Speaker 1: Standard but the reason this is, fair and the reason
Speaker 1: some of The Josh allen media commentary is so, maddening
Speaker 1: is because folks can't help themselves but one up the.
Speaker 1: Hyperbole it's no longer enough to SAY i think he,
Speaker 1: might even though he's never been to a Super, bowl
Speaker 1: and even though three hundred and sixty days ago he
Speaker 1: for the fourth time in the playoffs shared a field
Speaker 1: With Patrick mahomes and for the fourth time was outplayed and.
Speaker 1: Lost even though those that, HAPPENED i think he might
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback in the, league that's not. Enough
Speaker 1: and even though two of his contemporaries have more league
Speaker 1: MVPs than him during his during this, Run patrick And,
Speaker 1: lamar and those same two guys have more first team
Speaker 1: all pros than him in this, run and another one
Speaker 1: of his contemporaries has been to A Super, bowl And
Speaker 1: burrow Forget patrick going to five and winning, three even
Speaker 1: though all those things are the. Case calling him hands
Speaker 1: down the best player in the, league that's not enough.
Speaker 1: Either and in the last cup few, months and this
Speaker 1: is not a straw, man and this is from not
Speaker 1: only PEOPLE i, like but one of, them my dearest
Speaker 1: friend and boss at The Volume, coward call him the
Speaker 1: most talented player, ever, ever the most talented quarterback. Ever greeny, yesterday,
Speaker 1: yesterday after the forward turnover game said does as a
Speaker 1: matter of, fact no one has ever played the position.
Speaker 1: Better if that is the way he has, discussed then
Speaker 1: you can't also do a blame, pie blaming McDermott And,
Speaker 1: Brandon bean and brand And cooks and the poor left
Speaker 1: guard who didn't fall On allen's fumble when we're discussing
Speaker 1: them losing a playoff game when he had four. Turnovers
Speaker 1: he's the only guy in the league that when they,
Speaker 1: win he's an all time. Legend and when they, lose
Speaker 1: even when it's because of his, mistakes it's got to
Speaker 1: be someone else's. Fault you are. Not it is not
Speaker 1: a tenable sports opinionist position to continually call a player
Speaker 1: better than historic legends and contemporaries that have more pelps
Speaker 1: on the wall by a wide, margin and then give
Speaker 1: him a full on pass for a playoff meltdown.
Speaker 2: And he's on the record saying that he feels like
Speaker 2: it let his team.
Speaker 1: Down, well that's the other. Thing Josh allen is is
Speaker 1: more of a realist about what happened than his media.
Speaker 1: Sycophants Josh allen was in. Tears you know why because
Speaker 1: he is the best player on the. Team, obviously he
Speaker 1: is their. Leader he is the reason they're, there and
Speaker 1: he blew. It that's, Okay it's, Sports and it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be that big of a deal IF i didn't have
Speaker 1: to listen to people the day after it happens still
Speaker 1: say he's the no one's ever played the position? Better
Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding? Me, like take my homes out of.
Speaker 1: It i'm gonna go out on a limb and SAY
Speaker 1: i Think Tom brady plays the position better Than Josh. Allen,
Speaker 1: yeah LIKE i and SO i there is an element of.
Speaker 1: Demons last week there was a little media or a
Speaker 1: little mini media and we talked about it, firestorm About Lynn,
Speaker 1: jones the older black. Lady oh, yeah he said To Liam,
Speaker 1: cohen like hold your head up, high. Yep all these
Speaker 1: folks were, like once you, turn once you become, media
Speaker 1: you don't root. Anymore you don't do, That and then
Speaker 1: those same people are sending. Tweets my heart breaks For Josh.
Speaker 1: Allen he does why? What? LIKE i don't mean why like?
Speaker 1: That LIKE I i understand feeling empathy for a person
Speaker 1: that's a great player that you feel like can't get
Speaker 1: over the. HUMP i understand, that but the he. Doesn't
Speaker 1: you don't THINK. Cj stroud feels like shit this? WEEKEND i.
Speaker 2: You don't think the guy gets stopped so many. TIMES
Speaker 2: i also think people just get caught up with the
Speaker 2: physicals Of Josh, allen like he's, Perfect like he's got
Speaker 2: the big, arm he can run, around he's a big.
Speaker 2: Dude but, yeah he obviously.
Speaker 1: Is part of being an all time great is being
Speaker 1: able to harness your greatest attributes while minimizing the risk
Speaker 1: associated with. Them AND i have watched the he has been.
Speaker 1: Incredible that last year's playoff game Against Kansas, city he
Speaker 1: fumbled three. Times they recovered all of them the year
Speaker 1: before the playoff game Against Kansas, city on what they
Speaker 1: thought was gonna be the game tying, drive he fumbled
Speaker 1: running around like he did at midfield near. Halftime it
Speaker 1: should have been scooped and scored by The. Chiefs one
Speaker 1: of his teammates fell on it after The chiefs kicked.
Speaker 1: It he's loose with the, ball and when he switches
Speaker 1: his style up to not be loose with the, ball
Speaker 1: his gaudy stats go. Down that's when his passing yardage
Speaker 1: numbers go. Down and all he has not yet shown
Speaker 1: the ability to have the type of season where you
Speaker 1: get the crazy gaudy numbers without the crazy, turnovers which is.
Speaker 1: FINE i still think he's the second best quarterback in the.
Speaker 1: League but you got to call a spade a spade
Speaker 1: on a four turnover playoff, game AND i he was
Speaker 1: fine with. It he knew he blew. It and then
Speaker 1: the get to the follow ups because there's a lot
Speaker 1: about the calls and the whining and all of, it
Speaker 1: so you can go to all.
Speaker 2: This, Yeah so after the, Game Josh, Allen Dion, dawkins
Speaker 2: And Raynon cooks were all very emotional in their. Interviews and.
Speaker 2: Crying how do you feel about players crying after a
Speaker 2: round two?
Speaker 1: Exits SO i think a couple of. Things, LISTEN i
Speaker 1: it does now seem like The bills were going to
Speaker 1: fire McDermott if they didn't make The Super. Bowl if
Speaker 1: they hadn't made that decision after seeing how emotional the players,
Speaker 1: WERE i would have felt, like, Sorry, sean even if
Speaker 1: it's not your, fault we have To we can't just
Speaker 1: run this. Back this is a this is a scarred,
Speaker 1: team and and the. Demanse why do you think The
Speaker 1: bills were so devastated about this loss in this postseason
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i have a, Theory.
Speaker 2: Well this is their this was their, desk this was
Speaker 2: their shot this. Year, LIKE i just feel like this
Speaker 2: was because nobody ELSE'S i, mean you're you Got Drake,
Speaker 2: may you got all THE i mean you just Got Matt, Stafford, Mahomes,
Speaker 2: burrow Uh, at you, Know, Lamar they're all.
Speaker 1: Gone it's SO i think they clearly viewed it as
Speaker 1: The chiefs aren't there and this is our. Moment and
Speaker 1: That's and by the, way certainly the, media after they
Speaker 1: reacted to the McDermott, firing kept bringing up that this
Speaker 1: was the moment with The chiefs aren't. There and this
Speaker 1: is the other, thing If i'm being transparent, here that
Speaker 1: frustrates me about the just blowing, past Like josh Past
Speaker 1: patrick in this quarterback, hierarchy folks simultaneously have this Opinion
Speaker 1: josh is clearly the best quarterback in the. League he's
Speaker 1: better Than. Mahomes he's been better Than mahomes last few.
Speaker 1: Years they believe, that while simultaneously believing this was such
Speaker 1: a massive missed opportunity for The Buffalo bills because they
Speaker 1: finally would have been able to get to a Super
Speaker 1: bowl without actually having to Beat Patrick mahomes like that it.
Speaker 1: WAS i think they did view it as the path is,
Speaker 1: clear AND i only they viewed it as the path
Speaker 1: was clear Because lamar wasn't, there Because josh has Played
Speaker 1: lamar twice in the playoffs and beat them. BOTH i
Speaker 1: don't think they viewed as the path that's clear Because
Speaker 1: burrow's not, there Because burrow only been there the last three.
Speaker 1: YEARS i think they viewed as the path that's clear
Speaker 1: Because patrick's not there and they didn't get. There. Uh
Speaker 1: the crying was interesting to me BECAUSE i just don't
Speaker 1: remember the last LIKE i felt Like cam cried after
Speaker 1: the Super bowl and people killed him for. It this
Speaker 1: is a divisional round, game but they really thought they
Speaker 1: were right there and AND i. DIDN'T i we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the calls here in a. Second in,
Speaker 1: fact let's just get to it right, now. Demons let's
Speaker 1: get to the, calls and we'll get To.
Speaker 2: Rmott you always hated how the media talks about calls
Speaker 2: by the. Refs was The Brandon cooks play extra? Infuriating
Speaker 2: the talks that surrounded that.
Speaker 1: ONE i just listen shout. Out did you See Joe burrow?
Speaker 1: TWEETED i did See Joe burrow's Tweet Joe? Burrow who
Speaker 1: doesn't Tweet Joe? BURROW i just want to read, you.
Speaker 1: Guys Joe Burrow's twitter History april twenty, sixth twenty twenty. Four,
Speaker 1: okay so a year and a half ago or almost
Speaker 1: two years, ago eighteen, games question, mark two bye. Weeks july,
Speaker 1: fifteenth twenty twenty, five a one click captionless retweet Of
Speaker 1: Netflix sports promoting quarterback and that's. It so he has
Speaker 1: not written a tweet Since april of twenty twenty. Four
Speaker 1: and then he writes the amount of people that don't
Speaker 1: understand what a catch is in the rule. Book flabbergasts.
Speaker 1: Me and it's not the. Officials the two plays yesterday
Speaker 1: were not difficult calls and they got them both, right
Speaker 1: of course they. Did and THESE I i want to
Speaker 1: be on the record about. THIS i. AM i find
Speaker 1: this to be very very, binary AND i this Will
Speaker 1: i'm sure hurt some people's, feelings BUT i stand by.
Speaker 1: It if you are someone who posts still images as
Speaker 1: evident something was or wasn't to, catch you are either
Speaker 1: far far far dumber than you think you, are or
Speaker 1: you're being disingenuous. Us there is nothing to be learned
Speaker 1: about what is or isn't a catch from a. Screenshot
Speaker 1: that's not how it. Works and folks acting like The
Speaker 1: DeVante adams The Davante adams actual catch was the same
Speaker 1: play as The Brandon cook's non, catch are are again
Speaker 1: either idiots or. LIARS i don't see a.
Speaker 2: DIFFERENCE i thought about it as A ravens, fan like
Speaker 2: That isaiah likely touchdown where he caught the, Ball LIKE
Speaker 2: i feel like took a step and let the ball go,
Speaker 2: Immediately like if that wasn't a catch right, there then
Speaker 2: The Brandon coach thing definitely isn't a. Catch he just
Speaker 2: never never really.
Speaker 1: Had here's here's the QUESTION i would ask, everybody are
Speaker 1: you guys arguing if that you're saying it was a,
Speaker 1: catch that if The bronco's defensive back had you, know
Speaker 1: not secured it and it hit the, ground that that
Speaker 1: would have been a fumble because that's where you're arguing
Speaker 1: that that would have been a. Fumble of course that
Speaker 1: would have been a. Fumble it's an incomplete. Pass He
Speaker 1: i'm not going to explain the rules to. Everybody unbelievable
Speaker 1: play By people are showing The Xavier worthy play from last.
Speaker 1: Year The Xavier worthy play from last year was actual.
Speaker 1: Simult people are, like, oh simultaneous possession goes to the offensive.
Speaker 1: Player simultaneous possession means simultaneous. Possession bardon. Me The Xavier worthy.
Speaker 1: Play two guys went up for the. Ball they both
Speaker 1: came to the. Ground when the refs come over and whistle,
Speaker 1: it they're both holding onto the. Ball that simultaneous. Possession this,
Speaker 1: One Brandon cooks went up for, it him in his.
Speaker 1: Shoulder he momentarily split second long enough for a screenshot
Speaker 1: though controlled, it but before he completed the process of the.
Speaker 1: Catch The broncos guy took it from. Him that's a.
Speaker 1: Pick davante caught the, ball tucked, it took two, steps got,
Speaker 1: hit hit the, ground and then had it ripped. Away
Speaker 1: that's down by. Contact these aren't. Complicated AND i THINK
Speaker 1: i here's the other reason. Why and maybe it was
Speaker 1: that McDermott Knew demante he was gonna be. Fired but
Speaker 1: you can't blaming the refs like that and then call
Speaker 1: the media from the team plane to blame them some.
Speaker 1: More is the lack of accountability there is bad and
Speaker 1: it is the second year in a row The bills
Speaker 1: have lost the playoff. Game and for a lot of
Speaker 1: folks involved with that, team and for a lot of
Speaker 1: their just blatant apologists in the, media they didn't. Lose
Speaker 1: they got. Screwed remember last, Year Josh allen got that
Speaker 1: first down on that tush. PUSH i swear he. DID
Speaker 1: i watched it with my own two. Eyes.
Speaker 2: YEAH i still he got the media calling it. CONTROVERSIAL
Speaker 2: i THINK i just heard that the other day that CALL.
Speaker 1: I thirteen seconds game. Unfair didn't get the? Ball change the.
Speaker 1: Rules everybody knows If Josh allen had gotten the ball in,
Speaker 1: overtime he would have gone and scored a. Touchdown pop
Speaker 1: quiz hot shot the six other overtime Games Josh allen's
Speaker 1: been in where he did get the. Ball how many
Speaker 1: touchdowns has his team? Scored the answer is. Zero how
Speaker 1: many games has the team? Won the answer is. Zero
Speaker 1: how many total points have they scored in those seven overtime,
Speaker 1: games six of which they got the? Ball the answer is.
Speaker 1: Three so maybe they would have, scored maybe they would have.
Speaker 1: WON i don't, Know but luckily THE nfl changed the
Speaker 1: rules for. Him they get stuffed on the toush. Push
Speaker 1: NOW i supported, this but the timeline is. True The
Speaker 1: bills lose a playoff game because they can't execute tousch.
Speaker 1: Push the league holds a vote to outlaw the touch. Push,
Speaker 1: AGAIN i don't think that's the real, reason but it
Speaker 1: is the. Timeline and now we got, folks and this
Speaker 1: was That Greg rosenthal had it and he's. Right the
Speaker 1: tell that a lot of the media didn't actually think
Speaker 1: it was the wrong call was they weren't saying they
Speaker 1: got it. Wrong they were, saying why didn't you take
Speaker 1: more time to review? It and then these these these
Speaker 1: dopes are saying and it's this is just dumb folks
Speaker 1: then creating this. Conspiracy they didn't want to stop and review, It,
Speaker 1: demonse Because fox had already pushed back the start of
Speaker 1: THE Nfc championship game and they wanted to get to.
Speaker 1: It can you can you people not? Again f forget the?
Speaker 1: How what an outrageous conspiracy that? Is let's just say
Speaker 1: that conspiracy is. True That fox pressed the red button
Speaker 1: and was, like this game's gotta. End do you know
Speaker 1: the quickest way to? End bill's broncos in The Brandon
Speaker 1: cooks moment rule it a, catch they're the ten in sudden.
Speaker 1: Death he just kick a field. Goal the game's? Over
Speaker 1: like what when you when you? Have AND i want
Speaker 1: to say one other thing for remove, on BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are, Saying, nick what you're
Speaker 1: accusing the media of doing With Josh allen you do
Speaker 1: With Patrick, Mahomes AND i would say that is in
Speaker 1: one way true and in one way totally. Incorrect here's
Speaker 1: the way that it's. TRUE i openly root for one.
Speaker 1: TEAM i don't pretend Like i'm a wholly unbiased. Observer
Speaker 1: if somebody came out and was just Like i'm from
Speaker 1: and some of these guys Like Ariol. Hawane give, it
Speaker 1: he's not AN nfl the coverage, guy But Ariol hawani's From,
Speaker 1: buffalo loves The, bills roots a GREAT I I i
Speaker 1: cover the whole. LEAGUE i root for The. CHIEFS i
Speaker 1: have a relationship With. Patrick he's my favorite player. Ever
Speaker 1: everybody knows that going. In that's first of. All second of,
Speaker 1: all all, Right, nick but even past, that you Treat
Speaker 1: patrick like he's above criticism on certain. THINGS i do
Speaker 1: have a, tendency whether they're my guy or, not that
Speaker 1: if one guy before he turned twenty nine was already
Speaker 1: the second or third most decorated winner in the history
Speaker 1: of the, league to give them the benefit of the.
Speaker 1: Doubt if one guy has been to Five Super bowls
Speaker 1: one three is second all time in playoff win second
Speaker 1: all time in playoff, touchdowns second all time In Super bowl,
Speaker 1: MVPs i do think that guy second all time In
Speaker 1: Super bowl star, art tied for third all time In
Speaker 1: Super bowl. WINS i do think that guy has earned
Speaker 1: us a little more of a benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: than a guy than anybody who's never won and never
Speaker 1: even been in the game To win's.
Speaker 2: Not turn the ball over four times in the second.
Speaker 1: ROUND i, mean give me a. BREAK i, mean give
Speaker 1: me a. BREAK i, Mean i'm glad you said, That,
Speaker 1: demanse Because Listen patrick has had one and a half
Speaker 1: really rough Super. Bowls there's there's no way around. It
Speaker 1: and when it comes to the goat, conversation that's a
Speaker 1: fair thing to bring. Up as far as in the
Speaker 1: postseason prior to The Super bowl those how many? Games
Speaker 1: is that he's played twenty one playoff? Games he's played
Speaker 1: five Super. Bowls so those sixteen playoff games where he
Speaker 1: is fourteen and two and has let me go ahead
Speaker 1: and just check it real, quick six plus oh, yeah
Speaker 1: forty two touchdowns and three interceptions in the wildcard, round divisional,
Speaker 1: round and conference championship and the divisional round where he's
Speaker 1: seven to. Zero. Yeah how many? Fumbles great? Question great?
Speaker 1: Question two fumbles? Lost, okay eight fumbles total in those,
Speaker 1: uh in those sixteen. GAMES I i, mean give me a,
Speaker 1: break give me a. Break and it used to be
Speaker 1: a straw. Man folks, said, like, well nobody's actually saying
Speaker 1: these guys are better than in. Mahomes and now not
Speaker 1: only are they saying, that that's that that take has
Speaker 1: become too luke, warm and it's gotta. Be he's the
Speaker 1: most talented player. Ever AND i rooted for The bills
Speaker 1: this year and bet. THEM i was at a casino
Speaker 1: In philly playing poker in the, morning and then sitting
Speaker 1: in the sportsbook watching the divisional round. GAME i kept
Speaker 1: betting The. Bills what do you what do you? Laugh?
Speaker 2: YEAH i KEPT i should have TAKEN.
Speaker 1: I just kept betting The. BILLS i bet him before the,
Speaker 1: game and then when they fell down, EARLY i bet
Speaker 1: him again at plus, money and then at HALFTIME i
Speaker 1: bet him. AGAIN i just kept betting The. BILLS i was, like,
Speaker 1: There allen's gonna come through. HERE i was rooting for The.
Speaker 1: Bills but fairs, fair, folks those forty five minutes on that. Game,
Speaker 1: yeah this one you never? Notice how got you? GOING i,
Speaker 1: mean it's just, again it's it's it's remarkable to me
Speaker 1: That Josh allen gets it more than the folks who
Speaker 1: cover the. Sport just. Remarkable you ever notice everything keeps going?
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Speaker 1: OH i never even DEMANDS a got to the McDermott
Speaker 1: firing piece of, it which IS, i if you were GONNA,
Speaker 1: i if you're gonna fire one of McDermot Or, BEAN
Speaker 1: i would have thought it would have Been, bean AND
Speaker 1: i also thought they maybe would fire. BOTH i didn't
Speaker 1: Think bean would get a promotion out of. This the
Speaker 1: once we get a better idea on who they're going to,
Speaker 1: INTERVIEW i we can talk about this maybe more On.
Speaker 1: Thursday BUT i there have only been a handful of
Speaker 1: instances IN nfl history To monsey where a LEAGUE mvp
Speaker 1: who hasn't turned thirty yet his like his head coach positions,
Speaker 1: available and two of them are right now With lamar And.
Speaker 1: Josh and it's you know, What i'll Just i'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk about this more ON. Tv IF i were The,
Speaker 1: Bills i'd swallow. Hard i'd hope that the weather in
Speaker 1: the town is not really what his girlfriend is, into
Speaker 1: and that maybe should you, know they can have a
Speaker 1: long distance thing for a. Bit AND i would Ask
Speaker 1: Bill belichick to come coach my football team for three,
Speaker 1: years because if you are in when now win this minute,
Speaker 1: mode Hiring Joe brady Or Davis webb or any of
Speaker 1: these first time head coaches is such a hard. Ask
Speaker 1: AND i don't Think Brian dable is an upgrade Over sean.
Speaker 1: McDermott so, YEAH I i would Go. BELICHICK i would try.
Speaker 1: Again belichick's like player evaluation stuff doesn't matter as much
Speaker 1: because this would be a short term. Thing it'd Be,
Speaker 1: bill go break the, record win a Super bowl is
Speaker 1: stick it to The pats who think this is their.
Speaker 1: MOMENT i think you could entice. Him AND i don't
Speaker 1: Think Bill. BELLA i Understand North carolina hasn't gone. GREAT
Speaker 1: i don't think that he's lost his ability to coach professional.
Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i. Don't all, right let's Talk Rams.
Speaker 2: Bears So rams escaped out Of chicago with a. Win
Speaker 2: caleb pulled off some crazy stuff to force it in a,
Speaker 2: ot but he also threw the game ceiling pick that
Speaker 2: into the. Game what did you make Of caleb's game
Speaker 2: and this, Season.
Speaker 1: Well, listen it's a resounding successful season For. CALEB i.
Speaker 1: THINK i think it's. Undeniable and here's WHAT i would.
Speaker 1: Say the things that are either, uncoachable like just inherent
Speaker 1: to a, player or the hardest things to coach are
Speaker 1: things such as, arm, talent, poise under, pressure, athleticism and,
Speaker 1: escapability And caleb is a ten out of ten on
Speaker 1: all of those. Things the things that should be easiest to,
Speaker 1: coach footwork and accuracy are the places he needs the most.
Speaker 1: Improvement so that makes me incredibly bullish on, him AND
Speaker 1: i do feel a little Vindicated demanse for his placement
Speaker 1: On Mahomes mountain as a college. Sophomore when you see
Speaker 1: this type of holy, shit what did that guy just?
Speaker 2: DO i could not believe that that was kind of
Speaker 2: that might have been the craziest Play i've ever seen,
Speaker 2: Football like just seeing if you press pause at one,
Speaker 2: point just seeing how that turned into a touchdown was just.
Speaker 2: Insane but yet.
Speaker 1: A touchdown on fourth and four in the playoffs with
Speaker 1: twenty seconds. Left, DUDE i mean it's it's As and
Speaker 1: by the, WAY i don't think it was a better
Speaker 1: throw than the one last week.
Speaker 2: He.
Speaker 1: Had he had in back to back playoff, games he
Speaker 1: had fourth down plays that if they don't, convert they
Speaker 1: lose the, game and made plays THAT i truly believe
Speaker 1: the only other player in the league who would have
Speaker 1: been able to do it. Exactly like if it's, like,
Speaker 1: hey recreate, THIS i think the only other Player i've
Speaker 1: ever seen that could recreate both of them Is patrick
Speaker 1: and the roll into your left throw and then the
Speaker 1: running backwards thirty yards and then he's it's. Unbelievable, now
Speaker 1: with that, said this might have been a missed. Opportunity
Speaker 1: they had the ball in. Overtime it was sudden. Death you,
Speaker 1: don't you.
Speaker 2: DON'T i think they should have went for the two point.
Speaker 2: Version you don't want to take the rams to. OVERTIME
Speaker 2: i think you have mo. MINUM i think they should
Speaker 2: have done for the two point, version but they still
Speaker 2: got a.
Speaker 1: Chance it's just so his decision to trust his defense
Speaker 1: was vindicated by the fact the defense force the three
Speaker 1: and out and they got the. BALL I i thought
Speaker 1: they were going to go for. Two let me say
Speaker 1: that on the front, END i respect the fact that
Speaker 1: Uh Ben johnson's gut is to go for, two and
Speaker 1: he pivoted because he thought the game situation dictated not to.
Speaker 1: That he wasn't just an auto two point. Conversion pressed
Speaker 1: the button because he thought we've sucked it short yardage.
Speaker 1: Today we've sucked at the goal, Line we've sucked it short,
Speaker 1: yardage so we're not doing. IT i also do think
Speaker 1: there is an element of it should be. Noted let
Speaker 1: me put it like, this if they go for, two,
Speaker 1: demanse then the let me how many? TIMEOUTS i WISH
Speaker 1: i knew how many timeouts The rams. Had UH i
Speaker 1: thought The rams had a timeout. LEFT i could be. Wrong,
Speaker 1: no they, did because let me check the bears last,
Speaker 1: drive And i'll know. It BECAUSE i thought The rams
Speaker 1: should have been using their, timeouts but they. Didn't so
Speaker 1: let me just check timeout one by The. Rams, yes all.
Speaker 1: Right so here's the thing about going for. Two if
Speaker 1: they go for, two you're kicking off with eighteen seconds
Speaker 1: left and The rams of two, timeouts and they are
Speaker 1: obviously gonna try, it you, know like they're not going
Speaker 1: for two with eighteen seconds. Left even if you get
Speaker 1: it doesn't end the.
Speaker 2: Game, YEAH i, mean and defense has to stop like
Speaker 2: maybe three, plays two or three.
Speaker 1: Places, No and SO I i JUST i understood him
Speaker 1: not going for. IT i was, surprised BUT i understood.
Speaker 1: It and this is the other side of, it is
Speaker 1: THIS i think that was PROBABLY Dj moore's screw. Up,
Speaker 1: okay on the interception in, OVERTIME Dj moore seemed to
Speaker 1: lollygag the. Route But caleb doesn't have to go for
Speaker 1: that kill shot. There it's second and, eight you're at.
Speaker 1: Midfield it's a field goal wins. It so that's a.
Speaker 1: Mistake and this one stings for The bears because again
Speaker 1: every year you're this close and you've got a real,
Speaker 1: shot and it feels, like oh, man we made a.
Speaker 1: Mistake that that's really. Painful it's just really. Painful and
Speaker 1: So i'm optimistic and bullish on The, bears but that
Speaker 1: is a painful. Loss The, rams on the other, hand
Speaker 1: here's the. Deal The rams are my pick to win
Speaker 1: The Super. Bowl they have not played well in either playoff.
Speaker 1: Game there's two ways to look at. That one is
Speaker 1: they're just not playing well right, now and they're about
Speaker 1: to get clocked By. Seattle another way to look at
Speaker 1: it is they've made the conference championship game despite not playing,
Speaker 1: well and they're about to play their best game of the.
Speaker 1: Postseason the first time they Played, seattle they Put Sam
Speaker 1: darnold in, hell and the second time they Played, seattle
Speaker 1: they had that game in total control and it took
Speaker 1: an insane confluence of events for them to lose. It
Speaker 1: but that is why this game is In seattle and
Speaker 1: Not Los. ANGELES i Think stafford's gonna play, better and
Speaker 1: at Least stafford this week and has been one of
Speaker 1: the few quarterbacks who has been able to not you,
Speaker 1: know be a turnover. Machine speaking of a turnover, machine
Speaker 1: let's get To. Pats.
Speaker 2: Texans patriots are headed back to THE Afc Conference conference
Speaker 2: game for the first time in a. Decade, now this
Speaker 2: was not. Smooth the defense gave The patriots and, fits
Speaker 2: but they also got to PLAY.
Speaker 1: Cj.
Speaker 2: Stroud Did New england win the game or did The
Speaker 2: texans lose?
Speaker 1: It let me say this About New. England they have
Speaker 1: won both of their playoff games, easily and their quarterback
Speaker 1: hasn't played well. Yet now he's made some great, plays
Speaker 1: but the fumbles are. Crazy he just keeps fumbling the.
Speaker 1: Ball the offensive line hasn't played great that. Listen the
Speaker 1: past To booty to put the game away in the
Speaker 1: end zone was really. Good the catch was. Unbelievable and
Speaker 1: you guys know how HIGH i am On Drake. May
Speaker 1: but he has shown some playoff game. Jitters and now
Speaker 1: The pats are huge favorites in the conference championship game
Speaker 1: and they can go back to the Super bowl Without
Speaker 1: Drake may playing. Great, yet with that, SAID i think
Speaker 1: they needed to BENCH cj at. Halftime that Was Davis
Speaker 1: mills started three games for them this, year at five,
Speaker 1: touchdowns one. Turnover they went three to. Zero all they
Speaker 1: had to do was get some type of spark. Offensively
Speaker 1: AND i don't know what was going on WITH, cj
Speaker 1: because That pats defense is, good but it is not,
Speaker 1: great AND I cj Is and the THING i the
Speaker 1: argument demons against BENCHING cj is, well he's our franchise.
Speaker 1: Guy who can't do that to?
Speaker 2: Him he is the.
Speaker 1: Thing they're about to do that to him this summer
Speaker 1: when they don't offer him a contract, extension like he
Speaker 1: is going to get, that by the, way he's Got
Speaker 1: they're gonna pick up his fifth year, option and and
Speaker 1: THEN i would imagine they're gonna, say go play out
Speaker 1: your four and then we'll, see we, said because he
Speaker 1: still has essentially two years left on his rookie. Deal
Speaker 1: So's i'm not like saying they're gonna move OFF. Cj.
Speaker 1: Stroud but after three years is when franchise quarterbacks get their.
Speaker 1: Extensions he ain't getting, that and he's got to figure
Speaker 1: out what the hell's going on. There and all they
Speaker 1: had that, defense and they also got. UNLUCKY i, Mean
Speaker 1: Drake may fumbled inside the, five that ball bounced Around patriots.
Speaker 1: Recovery there was another fumble that it looked like The
Speaker 1: texans could have scooped and, scored but because they had
Speaker 1: been not falling on, fumbles they just fell on it like.
Speaker 1: That texans defense was ferocious as, advertised and THE. Cj
Speaker 1: pick six was just impossibly. Bad at that, point he
Speaker 1: had been turning the ball, over but they had the,
Speaker 1: lead they were up ten to, seven and that pick
Speaker 1: six flipped the whole. GAME i don't know what's happened TO. Cj.
Speaker 1: SHROUD i joke ON tv about the lecture that led
Speaker 1: to the losing that, ever since The Kala Big brother.
Speaker 1: Stuff he is the same. GUY i don't actually think
Speaker 1: that is what, happened but it is crazy who he
Speaker 1: Was demanse his rookie year and who he's been the last.
Speaker 2: TWO i mean he was out just sumo wrestling with
Speaker 2: Like Michael parsons and calling himself like a top three
Speaker 2: quarterback and stuff on. PODCASTS i feel, like, yeah after first.
Speaker 1: SEAT i mean, yes but that's that still doesn't explain
Speaker 1: last year then should have been a bit of a
Speaker 1: wake up call for. Him, Yeah and SO i DON'T
Speaker 1: i don't know.
Speaker 2: How much of it are we putting on THE o.
Speaker 1: Line oh line's. BAD i mean you're putting putting a
Speaker 1: fair amount of it on THE o. Line but then
Speaker 1: just eat the ball like some of these he threw
Speaker 1: four Picks, tomnse he could have thrown, seven like there
Speaker 1: were another three or. Four that's, like oh, GOD i
Speaker 1: mean that that was just. Brutal and by the, way
Speaker 1: he was. Awful and round one, YEAH i mean that
Speaker 1: was just.
Speaker 2: Carried he's being.
Speaker 1: Carried. MAN i feel sick for that. Defense that defense is.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable all, right let's speaking of unbelievable. Defenses let's Talk Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Niners seattle dominated The niners this, weekend like from the
Speaker 2: opening kickoff headed into championship, weekends The seahawks are The
Speaker 2: Super bowl. Favorite and do you think That vegas has that?
Speaker 1: CORRECT i, mean, Listen i'm gonna pick The. Rams But
Speaker 1: seattle's earned The they've earned. This they they Beat carolina
Speaker 1: by seventeen right before the, playoffs they beat The niners by.
Speaker 1: Ten they just beat The niners by thirty. Five and
Speaker 1: they did it all without their quarterback playing that. Well
Speaker 1: and classic one by me WHEN i was Your classic
Speaker 1: one Or classic, Two i'm not. Sure great opinion by,
Speaker 1: Me pat myself on the back trade deadline, Day Quinn
Speaker 1: williams to The, Cowboys Sauce gardner to The, colts AND
Speaker 1: i went ON tv and, said the most impactful trade
Speaker 1: of the day Is Rashid shaheed to The. Seahawks Rashid
Speaker 1: shaheed in The rams game that, One i'm home field
Speaker 1: advantage got uh had the punt return that got the comeback.
Speaker 1: Going And Rashid shaheed's kick return in this game opened
Speaker 1: the floodgates and so, uh The seahawks have just been utterly.
Speaker 1: DOMINANT i do Think we're in store, though for a very,
Speaker 1: close EXCELLENT nfc championship. Game and if that's the, context
Speaker 1: all Trust Stafford, LATE i know it's. Simple And, seattle,
Speaker 1: Listen mike McDonald's been unbelievable and that defense is. Underrated
Speaker 1: the loss Of charbonnay is, big And seattle did what
Speaker 1: a one seed against you, know beat Up niners team
Speaker 1: was supposed to. Do you know? WHO i bet watched
Speaker 1: that game and felt, like my, god we really. Blew
Speaker 1: it was The. Eagles The eagles are like That niners
Speaker 1: team came to our building and beat. Us, yeah, like
Speaker 1: that's just that's a rough. One all? Right what Other
Speaker 1: niners questions you have for? Him forty move?
Speaker 2: On you were open to pivoting on, party, uh seeing
Speaker 2: how he played in this game Against. Seahawks how do
Speaker 2: you feel now after that? Performance is? That?
Speaker 1: Listen i'm not gonna he was obviously, bad But i'm
Speaker 1: not gonna hang him for that. Performance that whole team
Speaker 1: was bad and So i'm not gonna kill. Him BUT
Speaker 1: i had he been good in that game and it's,
Speaker 1: like oh my, god this team moved like that would
Speaker 1: have made, me you, know. Reevaluate But i'm not going
Speaker 1: to kill him for that.
Speaker 2: Performance how would you describe the forty nine ers window, open, closed.
Speaker 1: CLOSING i think they're in a transition, period BUT i
Speaker 1: thought that this year and they had all the injuries
Speaker 1: and they got the divisional. Round shanahan's so, good.
Speaker 2: Man it can't be.
Speaker 1: Closed it can't be closed With, shanahan it just. Can't
Speaker 1: he's so. Good but No, KITTLE i, MEAN i guess
Speaker 1: we'll see About, kittle but The, achilles we'll see About
Speaker 1: miccaffrey after all this, Workload Losing Robert salah is a big.
Speaker 1: Deal But shanahan's so. Good all, Right let's get to listening.
Speaker 2: Questions billy asks why are people so hesitant on calling
Speaker 2: Out Josh allen but have little no issue banging on
Speaker 2: Mahomes jalen And lamar.
Speaker 1: LISTEN i bouncing around a lot of this quarterback criticism
Speaker 1: commentary has been a not so subtle racial, Component, yeah
Speaker 1: where people have wondered about whether or not certain quarterbacks
Speaker 1: get favorable coverage or less than favorable coverage based on. Race,
Speaker 1: okay and anybody that's consumed any of my content for
Speaker 1: any point of my career KNOWS i believe in a
Speaker 1: way That i'm sure annoys a lot of the. AUDIENCE
Speaker 1: i Think race touches every single thing In america in
Speaker 1: ways that people you know are either blissfully unaware of
Speaker 1: or hyper aware. Of and so there is almost nothing
Speaker 1: no question you could ask me, that my answerould, be,
Speaker 1: Oh race plays no factor in it. Whatsoever, okay so
Speaker 1: let me say that on the front. END i Don't,
Speaker 1: HOWEVER i don't see because a lot of people bring
Speaker 1: up like The josh Criticism lamar. CRITICISM i happen to
Speaker 1: think That lamar gets mostly a pass from most folks,
Speaker 1: Too And i've said that for a. While it has
Speaker 1: felt like for years it was just me And shannon
Speaker 1: as the only people that would be, Like lamar is
Speaker 1: bad and the Like as has had these bad. Moments
Speaker 1: SO i don't look At lamar as like being overly, criticized,
Speaker 1: RIGHT i also think there is there is Also again
Speaker 1: this is too complex to get. Into but you Saw
Speaker 1: Nick young swaggy pe or you know you know that is? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah it during he, tweeted uh he he tweeted during
Speaker 1: the show after The ravens season, ended or they Fired,
Speaker 1: HARBALL i don't. Know but during our a block WHEN i,
Speaker 1: WAS i don't Know lamar he tweeted something about THESE
Speaker 1: fs one shows in the way they talk about black.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks oh, oh and Then Lamar's entertainment company retweeted it
Speaker 1: with a little bulls.
Speaker 2: EYE i.
Speaker 1: Think and there is a really And i'm not going
Speaker 1: to get into it now because i just don't have
Speaker 1: the bandwidth for. It there's a and it's really a
Speaker 1: longer form. Discussion there's a really interesting discussion to be
Speaker 1: had about folks who look At Patrick, Mahomes Jalen, Hurts Caleb,
Speaker 1: Williams Lamar jackson and criticizing or complimenting black quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: what resonates and what, doesn't and so it there is it.
Speaker 1: Is it would be ridiculous on its face to be
Speaker 1: Like Nick nick's got something against black quarterbacks when favorite
Speaker 1: player of all Times Patrick mahomes AND i When caleb
Speaker 1: was a sophomore in, COLLEGE i was, saying it's six
Speaker 1: best quarterback in. Football BUT i think some folks, like,
Speaker 1: yeah but you go At lamar and you haven't believed
Speaker 1: in jail and and there IS i mean dem demons
Speaker 1: on the. Screen. Again, No i'm not saying it's like
Speaker 1: Sourism i'm not saying like a skin tone, thing But
Speaker 1: i'm saying that it is about who people. THINK i
Speaker 1: just think it's about how people view these other people.
Speaker 1: RACIALLY i think there is that, element and so it's
Speaker 1: it's not a skin tone thing as much as it
Speaker 1: is just how they view those. Players and SO i
Speaker 1: The SO i am not trying to act LIKE i
Speaker 1: believe race plays no part in quarterback. EVALUATIONS i think
Speaker 1: it clearly and obviously. Does BUT i also think That
Speaker 1: lamar has Gotten when you, know When lamar's team has
Speaker 1: blown it in the playoffs and he's turned the ball,
Speaker 1: over people are, like why didn't they run the ball?
Speaker 1: More and his coach also got. Fired SO i DON'T
Speaker 1: i don't Think lamar has, gotten you, know pilloried by the.
Speaker 1: Media and so.
Speaker 2: That's that's pretty similar with the way that they're, discussed
Speaker 2: to be, honest that's how it.
Speaker 1: Feels now you want to, say, Again mahomes has gotten
Speaker 1: passes at my answer would, be, yeah he's been to
Speaker 1: Five Super. Bowls here's one three of. Them he's going
Speaker 1: to build up a little, equity all. Right, Now.
Speaker 2: Eric, asks would any of Your Josh allen criticisms apply
Speaker 2: To lebron pre twenty, twelve and can we see a
Speaker 2: similar turnaround in playoff.
Speaker 1: Accomplishments at Least lebron in twenty twelve had been to
Speaker 1: The Championship brown. Twice lebron in twenty twelve was the
Speaker 1: most the most decorated regular season player of his. Era
Speaker 1: josh is neither of, those. Right lamar And patrick are
Speaker 1: more decorated regular season. Players lamar has never been to
Speaker 1: The Championship, brown SO I i don't think that is
Speaker 1: going to. APPLY i do Think Josh allen's gonna win
Speaker 1: a Super. Bowl that's the other, thing and then we'll
Speaker 1: leave it at. THIS i do Think Josh allen's going
Speaker 1: to win a Super. BOWL i want to be.
Speaker 2: Here Josh allen is gonna be a really good older.
Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i THINK i see.
Speaker 1: That i'm a little worried about BECAUSE i don't. KNOW
Speaker 1: i don't know how well his body's gonna hold. Up
Speaker 1: BUT i think he's gonna win a Super. Bowl but,
Speaker 1: folks here here's my last thing on. This, folks leave
Speaker 1: yourself some room for compliment growth once he wins the Super,
Speaker 1: bowl because if he's the best quarterback alive and the
Speaker 1: most talented player ever, before he's been to a Super.
Speaker 2: Bowl then The, Bills, yeah you're gonna give him in,
Speaker 2: quarterback give him The.
Speaker 1: Nobel Peace prize when he finally wins. It and if
Speaker 1: you do, that then we're definitely gonna Invade. Greenland talk
Speaker 1: to you guys On. Thursday what's, right