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Speaker 1: Everybody. Chris Harry with you on Chargers Weekly. A bit later,

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Speaker 1: part two of a Chargers dot com roundtable discussion, we

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Speaker 1: recap the twenty eighteen NFL Draft and look ahead to

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Speaker 1: intriguing offseason storylines. We've also put together a compilation of

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Speaker 1: draft analysts and writers discussing Chargers rookies on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: but it was before the NFL Draft. I think you're

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Speaker 1: really gonna enjoy listening back to some of the analysis

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Speaker 1: and predictions. They were spot on. It was a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun to put together. But we start with some

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Speaker 1: unfortunate news. Chargers tight end Hunter Henry tore his ACL

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Speaker 1: during OTAs on Tuesday, a big blow to the team

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Speaker 1: and one of the best young tight ends in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We'll be sure to update you on the latest as

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Speaker 1: well as what's next at that position, but for now,

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Speaker 1: our thoughts are with Hunter, who's an exceptional football player,

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Speaker 1: but more importantly, he's a first class person. A quick

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Speaker 1: break and we'll come back with my interview with new

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Speaker 1: Chargers linebacker Kaiser White. So the Los Angeles Chargers schedule

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Speaker 1: is out, and boy, it's nice to finally know how

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Speaker 1: we'll be spending our Sundays this fall. How many Charger

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Speaker 1: games did you make last year? Matt, I made twenty

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Speaker 1: four preseason games in sixteen regular season games last year.

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Speaker 1: Which are you circling for this season? This season, I'll

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Speaker 1: circle the Niners and Cardinals as they play the NFC West,

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Speaker 1: and let's not forget about those rivalry games. Pe you

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Speaker 1: seriously don't want to miss this. Visit fight for La

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Speaker 1: dot com or call eight seven seven Chargers to share

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Speaker 1: Matt's experience. Season tickets on sale now. All right here

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Speaker 1: with one of the newest Chargers, linebacker Kaiser White on

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Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly, Kaisier first day of OTA's how to feel

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Speaker 1: it there, man Ufo. Pretty good to get out there

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Speaker 1: with the best, just learn, pick their brain and just

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Speaker 1: soaking everything that I can. Yeah, you know, rookie mini camp,

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Speaker 1: Everybody know what they're doing. Everybody's a per hour, so

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Speaker 1: You know. You fast forward three to four weeks, You're

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Speaker 1: the golf tournament yesterday. What's this month been like for you?

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Speaker 1: It's got it had to have been a bowler of

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Speaker 1: the past three weeks. Yeah, it's really been hectic. Went

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Speaker 1: your success. Talk about your leadership. You played the spur

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Speaker 1: is for those who don't know. You're a safety butcher

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Speaker 1: How does that translate to what Coach Bradley wants to

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. How did being a Mountaineer prepare you for

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Speaker 1: every day if you want to see the field that, sir,

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Speaker 1: Chargers fans. Anything you want to tell Chargers fans what

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Speaker 1: Make sure you'll listen till the end, because ESPN's Matt

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Speaker 1: Bowen called his shot on March first, and he absolutely

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425
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Speaker 1: He looks like he's ready. He looks the part. He

426
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Speaker 1: looks the part. And what the Chargers did first four

427
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Speaker 1: selections all on defense. But if you dive a little

428
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Speaker 1: bit deeper into it, these are guys who were not

429
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Speaker 1: only physical players, but they were leaders, they were co captains,

430
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Speaker 1: and they all look like they can play a big

431
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Speaker 1: role game. Gus Bradley's defense a lot of interchangeable parts too.

432
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Speaker 1: When you talk about guys like Kaiser White and you

433
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Speaker 1: chenn Insu, and that's huge in the modern day NFL. Right, Yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: But I always get worried or wary rather of putting

435
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Speaker 1: too much on rookies. It's the first year. You never

436
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Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get. It's a process, of course,

437
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Speaker 1: but these guys look like, at the minimum, they should

438
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Speaker 1: be able to play a role. And the depth on

439
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: this team has gotten a lot better. So whether they

440
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 1: make an impact every down kind of guy or just

441
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Speaker 1: as role players early on earning that role. I think

442
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: the depth in this team took a huge and I

443
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Speaker 1: mean huge step forward during the draft and to have

444
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Speaker 1: younger guys come in and also learn from some of

445
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: these really savvy, vested veterans. I mean, there are guys

446
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: now on this Chargers team, even though they've only been

447
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: on for say three or four years, who have that

448
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: wherewithal to guide them, take them under their wings. And

449
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: these these kids, these kids, these days, they'll learn a lot,

450
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Speaker 1: I think too. With a lot of these veterans on

451
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Speaker 1: this team, for many of them, it was their first

452
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Speaker 1: year in Gus Bradley's defense too, so to have a

453
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Speaker 1: year under their belt, coupled with bringing some of these

454
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Speaker 1: young guys along, I think we're all in agreement that

455
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Speaker 1: Derwin's going to have an impact this year on this defense.

456
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Speaker 1: Outside of James, which of these drafted rookies do you

457
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Speaker 1: think is going to make the biggest impact this year.

458
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Speaker 1: I'll let you go first. Helly, who's your pick to click?

459
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Justin Jones round pick. I think part

460
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Speaker 1: of it is we learned Corey LEGiT's going to be

461
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Speaker 1: suspended for the first four games of the season. Strengthening

462
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Speaker 1: that defensive line is something that a lot of pundit's

463
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Speaker 1: talked about. You know, they had guys in those positions

464
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: mocked to this team. This you know, team picked up

465
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Speaker 1: a great guy out of ends. He stayed in third round.

466
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Speaker 1: I think he can he can probably bring something in

467
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Speaker 1: kind of strengthen that area and maybe fill a void,

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Speaker 1: especially when Corey's going to be out for those first

469
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Speaker 1: four weeks. Yeah, because you're white. I really think that

470
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Speaker 1: if he's able to learn the linebacker position of Look,

471
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Speaker 1: he's played the hybrid role before, but if he's able

472
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Speaker 1: to do that, this system is made for someone with

473
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Speaker 1: that speed, you know, the way he could really fit

474
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Speaker 1: in as that will linebacker. I'm excited to see him.

475
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Speaker 1: I don't want to put two much pressure on a kid,

476
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Speaker 1: but I'm excited to see him. And the other one

477
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Speaker 1: is Justin Jackson. He's a running back, a seventh round pick.

478
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Speaker 1: But if you look at this team, is kind of

479
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Speaker 1: crazy to think this, but like Austin Eckler's the second

480
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: longest tenure running back on this roster, it's hard to believe. Yeah,

481
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Speaker 1: so there is a you know, there's a role to

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Speaker 1: be had. And I think you're talking about what the

483
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Speaker 1: second or third is most productive running back in Big

484
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Speaker 1: Ten history. So he's shown that he could be productive.

485
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Speaker 1: So those are the two guys I think really have

486
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Speaker 1: a chance to, you know, make their mark this year.

487
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Speaker 1: We all have different answers, and I think there's not

488
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Speaker 1: a wrong answer because I think you Chenna nuos who

489
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Speaker 1: is going to fill that theme of this podcast. There's

490
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Speaker 1: not a wrong answer the title of the podcast. Maybe

491
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Speaker 1: there's not a wrong answer, yeah, but in this case,

492
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Speaker 1: I don't think there is because Uchenna Nuosu is somebody

493
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Speaker 1: who had nine and a half sacks last year for USC.

494
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Speaker 1: Chris McCain's not here anymore. He can fill that role

495
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Chris McKain, and there are some things that he does

496
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Speaker 1: athletically that are going to be very special for this defense.

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Speaker 1: His deflections, I liken it to like Ryan Carrigan of

498
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Speaker 1: the Redskins, who always gets his hand on the ball.

499
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Speaker 1: If you can deflect the ball with all these playmakers

500
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Speaker 1: around him. Talking about Desmond King, Casey Hayward, I think

501
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Speaker 1: you Chenna can have a really big impact in year

502
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Speaker 1: one too. So again, there's no wrong answer here because

503
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Speaker 1: Justin Jones is another guy that I could see, especially

504
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Speaker 1: those first four games, getting into that rotation before Corey

505
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Speaker 1: comes back. All right. A few other things related to

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Speaker 1: the draft, undrafted free agents. We know that every year

507
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: the team brings in a bunch of different guys, anybody

508
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Speaker 1: that stood out to you during rookie minicamp or somebody

509
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Speaker 1: that you're intrigued to kind of see develop. I think

510
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Speaker 1: it's funny. I heard David Carr in an if I'll

511
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: talk about Ricky mini caamp is like the adults aren't

512
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Speaker 1: home yet, so it's like a party for the kids. Basically,

513
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Speaker 1: I think we'll learn a lot more about these guys

514
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Speaker 1: once they start mixing in with the veterans and everything

515
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Speaker 1: like that. I think for me personally, those storylines. Zach

516
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Speaker 1: Golditch from Colorado State is a great story. Yeah, you

517
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: wrote about him. I wrote about him. We had a

518
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Speaker 1: really great conversation. For those who don't know, he is

519
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Speaker 1: a survivor of the twenty twelve shooting in Aurora, Colorado.

520
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Speaker 1: What's crazy is that he was actually in the theater

521
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Speaker 1: next door to where the actual shooting was happening and

522
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Speaker 1: was hit by a stray bullet that went through the wall.

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Speaker 1: He only missed a couple weeks of practice as he

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Speaker 1: head into a senior season, But just following that story

525
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Speaker 1: and realizing trying to see if this guy can realize

526
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Speaker 1: his dream of playing in the NFL and how that'll

527
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Speaker 1: kind of pan out through training camp, through mini camp,

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Speaker 1: training camp, and then seeing what happens after that. I

529
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Speaker 1: don't think there's anyone in the country who's rooting against him.

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Speaker 1: And you did a great job with that story, Haley.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny talking about undrafted free agents is like, look,

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Speaker 1: I think twenty one and twenty two straight years an

533
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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent has made the Chargers the longest stretch

534
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL and no exactly no pressure at all.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about guys like Chris Deealman and Antonio Gates

536
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Speaker 1: and so on the last two years. I think the

537
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Speaker 1: person that you know, no one expected to make it

538
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: or had was literally people thought was the ninetieth man

539
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Speaker 1: on the roster made it. Spencer Polly. At the time

540
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Speaker 1: he was here, there were four centers above him. He

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Speaker 1: showed out. Yeah, Austin Eckler a year ago, there were

542
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Speaker 1: four running backs ahead of him. He proved himself. So

543
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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to name one person right now,

544
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: but one guy who I am excited about is Brandon Faison,

545
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Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Virginia Tech. He's long, he's six two,

546
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Speaker 1: he runs a four or five. He has the most

547
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Speaker 1: passes defense as in Virginia Tech history, so exactly now, look,

548
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: this team is loaded at cornerback right, Jason Vrett's coming

549
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: back with Trevor Williams, Desmond King and like Haley's mentioned earlier,

550
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Speaker 1: Casey Hayward. But if he could show what he's able

551
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Speaker 1: to do healthy, I think the Chargers may have had

552
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Speaker 1: a diamond in the rough there. Nick Shimanek is a

553
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Speaker 1: guy that I'm excited to see developed again The Ways

554
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Speaker 1: off Your Time. I I like how it goes Nick Shimanek,

555
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: but he's a guy that I'm intrigued by. I got

556
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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Cliff Kingsbury last week and

557
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: he said the one word that describes him is fearless.

558
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Speaker 1: He played behind Patrick Mahomes and Davis Webb and didn't

559
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Speaker 1: really have his chance to shine until last year and

560
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: did pretty well in that air raid offense. But I

561
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Speaker 1: think he shares some similarities to Philip Rivers and Haley.

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Speaker 1: I think you wrote about him and Dylan Cantrell, which

563
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Speaker 1: is another cool story. Teammates that are here with the

564
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Speaker 1: Chargers and their roommates now and Cantrell told me that

565
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Speaker 1: Shimanek loves Philip Rivers, so part of his decision to

566
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Speaker 1: sign with this team. And Cantrell goes, you know, like

567
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: to say, I had a role in that he was

568
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: chosen in the sixth round, but was to get a

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Speaker 1: chance to learn behind Philip. I mean that has to

570
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Speaker 1: be pretty cool. When you're an undrafted free agent, you

571
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Speaker 1: get to choose where you get to go, and so

572
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Speaker 1: to come in here and maybe have that role and

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00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: just like he said, observe what he does, Observe how

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Speaker 1: he practices, how he plays. That's invaluable for someone trying

575
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Speaker 1: to make it in this league. And Chris, you got

576
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Speaker 1: me real excited right now. Fearless. I mean, that's a

577
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Speaker 1: fearless quarterback. A characteristic you want. It's fearless. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's see what he could do out there. I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a really interesting battle to back up

580
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. You're bringing Genos Smith, who's looked pretty good

581
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Speaker 1: out there, with Cardell Jones, who they think has a

582
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Speaker 1: chance to take a big leap forward, and now you

583
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Speaker 1: have Nick Shimaneck my tongue right like you did. That's

584
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun to watch in these

585
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: OTAs and training camp and for the fans to watch

586
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: a preseason. Guys, we'll get you out here on this

587
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: storylines during OTAs in mini camp that you're excited to see.

588
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: Over the next couple of months, we have training camps,

589
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: not for two more months, but we still have OTAs,

590
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: we still have mini camp, and I think there's some

591
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: things to kind of look out for before July. I

592
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: look at this year's draft class is not a seven

593
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: person draft class, but a nine person draft class. You're

594
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Speaker 1: getting Mike Williams back healthy, Mike Williams, who is basically

595
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: another top ten and guy out there, and far As Lamp.

596
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean, when you get your first two picks from

597
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: a year ago who basically didn't contribute at all, that's huge.

598
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: And particularly Mike, like if he could come in and

599
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: be that big bodied guy who makes those contested catches

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00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: a red zone threat, he could high point the ball.

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Speaker 1: Put him in there with Tyrell Williams and Travis Benjamin

602
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: Speed and oh yeah, some guy named Keenan Allen like

603
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: that can make this offense. Sounds crazy to say, but

604
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: it could really take it. Like that's a role that

605
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: was missing last year. So I want to see Mike

606
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: and Philip get that connection going throughout these OTAs, bring

607
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: a guy like Dad back to that I've won passing

608
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: offense in the league last year. That's not too bad.

609
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: It's special. I think part of it going back to

610
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Mike Pouncey circle back rewind. You know, how he really

611
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: fits in this offensive line and how they start jelling together,

612
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: how that works with Philip and starts working you know,

613
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: backwards with Melvin and all of that. This is that

614
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: key part of the off season where you start building relationships,

615
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: You build the camaraderie to get you to training camp

616
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Speaker 1: and then to get you to the preseason and so on.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's huge, and I think seeing how

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Speaker 1: some of these rookies fit in also, you know where

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Speaker 1: they go, how they fit in, which undrafted guys can

620
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: make a splash once they start working, you know, scheme

621
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Speaker 1: and everything like that. I think it's it's a lot,

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Speaker 1: you know of interesting things and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: And both those are on offense. And it's crazy to

624
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Speaker 1: say it because the Charters had one of the best

625
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Speaker 1: offenses and one of the best defenses. But Chris I'm curious,

626
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Speaker 1: what's what's your what are you looking at? You know?

627
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Speaker 1: I think the backup quarterback role with Gino Smith, Nick Schimanek,

628
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: and Cardell Jones, I think those three guys are going

629
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: to be in competition to make the roster. And you

630
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: look at quarterback depth around the NFL and just how

631
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: important it is, Philadelphia Eagles being the biggest example of that.

632
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Speaker 1: I want to see a guy really take a stranglehold

633
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Speaker 1: on that backup quarterback role, whether it's Jones or Smith.

634
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Speaker 1: I think those are the leading candidates at this point.

635
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Speaker 1: So I think that's something to watch over the next

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Speaker 1: couple of months, just to see where they are in

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Speaker 1: their development. It's always fun to watch that too, right

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Speaker 1: of course, you'd love to see how the quarterbacks are doing.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we probably should say something on defense,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Isaac Rochelle. I am all

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Speaker 1: about Isaac Rochelle. I thought he played really well last

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Speaker 1: year down the stretch. When the Chargers had to waive

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Speaker 1: him after Week one, I was shocked no team picked

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Speaker 1: him up, and that's gonna The Chargers got lucky there.

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Speaker 1: I feel like because they have someone who, like Haley

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Speaker 1: mentioned Corey is going to be out the first four weeks.

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Speaker 1: Darius Filons an ascending player. I think some of these

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Speaker 1: young guys in the trenches, and it's hard to say

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Speaker 1: because no contact, but I really want to see where

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Speaker 1: Isaac takes his game going into year two. And I'll

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Speaker 1: go with a guy that Ricky usually likes to talk

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Speaker 1: about and Jason Varrette. Oh yeah, Stiva Island. I'm shocked

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Speaker 1: he didn't mention him. But I think, you know, working

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Speaker 1: back into it and getting back into the secondary, you know,

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Speaker 1: with now cornerbacks who have proven their worth. You know,

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Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Desmond King made a

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Speaker 1: statement last year, Trevor Williams who filled in for Jason,

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Speaker 1: he's obviously capable of starting in this league. And how

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Speaker 1: Varette fits back into that with Casey and all of them,

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Speaker 1: and I think they'll find a nice rotation in a

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Speaker 1: nice way to work all of them in. But that's,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's an interesting one for me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're right. I can't believe I didn't think of that earlier.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, because he's my guy. But you're

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Speaker 1: get a Pro Bowl guy who is elite at his position.

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Speaker 1: But you also have Casey, and you have Trevor Williams,

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Speaker 1: and you have Desmond King, And then you also like

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Speaker 1: how are they all going to work out? How is

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Speaker 1: Gus going to use these weapons? Because they are all weapons?

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Speaker 1: And then also Derwin James, he could play all the

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Speaker 1: safety roles. Where does he go? Are they going to

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Speaker 1: try to use them in the box where they put

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Speaker 1: them back at free and what does that mean for

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Speaker 1: Julila Die Then you have a guy like Rayshawn Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: who were they were really high on last year in

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Speaker 1: the fourth round. I always feel like players set the

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Speaker 1: biggest lead between year one and year two, and you

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Speaker 1: see that most during this ota. So I'm going to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on every single guy in that secondary, Haley.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea. I think another thing too,

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Speaker 1: when obviously there isn't a whole lot of this that

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Speaker 1: happens during this time of year, but how special teams

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Speaker 1: gets improved, not only with the kicking game, but just

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Speaker 1: coverage and everything like that. With returners, Will they work

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Speaker 1: some of these rookies in, Will other guys have more

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Speaker 1: prominent roles there? I think that was a sore spot

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers last year that they hope to turn around,

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Speaker 1: and I think that'll be huge development to get them

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Speaker 1: to the regular season. Yeah, storyline's galore. I think defensively,

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Speaker 1: Desmond King is the guy that I want to see

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Speaker 1: make that leap. I thought he was a valuable for

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Speaker 1: what he was able to do to the defense last year.

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Speaker 1: So where do you see him playing? He could do everything, Like,

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Speaker 1: where do you see him fitting in? I think that

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Speaker 1: nickel corner position is great for him. But with all

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Speaker 1: of these new parts coming in, I think that there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be guys that are positionless players that can play

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Speaker 1: really all across the defense. So that's with Adrian Phillips

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Speaker 1: coming back, with Darwin James in the mix, Kaiser White,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that I think can do

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Speaker 1: a lot of different things, and I have faith that

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Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's going to find the right place to put

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Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, I think I have some faith in

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Speaker 1: Gus Bradley and coach Linn. Yeah. Thanks, pretty good, guys.

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Speaker 1: It's always fun. We are are We two months away

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Speaker 1: from training camp, two and a half months away from

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Speaker 1: training camp, about a month away from Mini camp, a

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Speaker 1: month away from Mini camp. We're starting to hit the

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Speaker 1: dog days a little bit. We're gonna we're getting there,

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Speaker 1: but this is really a three sixty five deal. Always

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time and we'll do this again next time.

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Speaker 1: But before we go, can you see here you say,

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Speaker 1: Nick Schimick, More time, Nick Simanick, love it? End it there? Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys, Thanks my thanks to Ricky and Haley

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Speaker 1: as well as Kaiser wife for joining me, and of

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Speaker 1: course thanks to you all for listening. Find us on

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts and while you're there, please leave a review,

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