1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back in now number two Tuesday edition Clay Travis, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: with us. Encourage you as always search us out on 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: social media. You can find the Clay and Buck Show 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: on YouTube. We'll get into YouTube a bit, maybe a 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: little bit later in this hour in some of the 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: revelations coming out about YouTube. You can find us on Instagram. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter, you can find us 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: on TikTok. Basically, if there is a site out there, 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck the show is there. Also, Buck and 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: I are there with our own accounts, so you can 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: find us anywhere. News Jimmy Kimmel returning. We talked about 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: that in the first hour. Trump at the un We 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: will play some of that audio for you guys before 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: the show is done today. But Kamala Harris has her 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: new book out. She is doing a media tour. You 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: heard us playing some of the take from the view. 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: But last night her opening interview you was with Rachel Maddow, 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: and Rachel Maddow actually did a little bit of journalism 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: because she pushed Kamala Harris on some of the arguments 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: that are the most ridiculous that Kamala is making in 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: particular having to do with her vice president choice, and Buck, you, 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: as the Kamala Harris expert, having already purchased her book, 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: will soon be able to tell us whether the news 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: reports are accurate on this. We prefer to be called Kamalologists. Yes, 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: that's a tough word. So Kamala Harris. The book is 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 1: out and she dove into as part of the book, 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: she is explaining why she ended up picking Tim Wallas 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: as her vice presidential pick. I give you credit, Buck, 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: because she basically is saying Josh Shapiro thought he was 31 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: too good for the number two job as VP, which 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: was your take. I would also submit that I do 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: believe him being Jewish made him in the mind of 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, given how close Michigan was going to be 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: an unselectable vice presidential candidate. I think that speaks to 36 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: the issues that now exist in the left in this 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: country where being pro Israel is an unacceptable position. I 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: think you're seeing Chuck Schumer in real time try to 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: figure out how does he balance the old school pro 40 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Israel Democrat base that elected him for the past several 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: decades with the new AOC Israel is a bad guy 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: and Palestine is the good guy. Angele, even in the 43 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: wake of the Hamas terror attack. I would submit that 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: is a sign of the failure to distinguish between good 45 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: and evil, which the Democrat Party is rampant with right now. 46 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: So Joshapiro's out because he's Jewish and because maybe he 47 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: was a little bit too ambitious. Gavin Newsom and I 48 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: still think this is really funny. Gavin Newsom refused used 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: to even return Kamala Harris's phone call. 50 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: JB. 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: Pritzker the super wealthy sky on of the with the 52 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: Hyatt I think it's the Hyatt family fortune in the 53 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: in the hotel business. He said, I can't make a 54 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: decision because Illinois is hosting the event. And then she 55 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: started to run through some of the other possibilities, and 56 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: she said she would have picked Mayor Pete, but she 57 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: was concerned that Mayor Pete was gay, and that it 58 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: was asking too much of the electorate, given that she 59 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: was a black and Asian woman married to a Jewish man, 60 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: to pick a gay running mate. And Kamala Harris got 61 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: confronted about this a little bit. Here is what it 62 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: sounded like last night MSNBC with Rachel Maddow on that 63 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: particular issue, Listen to. 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: Say that he couldn't be on the ticket effectively because 65 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: he was gay. 66 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: It's hard to hear. 67 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: No, No, that's not what I said that that's that he 68 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: couldn't be on the ticket because he is gay. My point, 69 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: as I write in the book, is that I was 70 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: clear that in one hundred and seven days, in one 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: of the most hotly contested elections for president and United States, 72 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 4: against someone like Donald Trump, who knows no floor to 73 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 4: be a black woman running for president United States and 74 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: as a vice presidential running mate a gay man, with 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: the stakes being so high, it made me very sad. 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: But I also realized it would be a real risk. 77 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: Okay, what she's trying to argue and doing it in 78 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: very Kamala Harris in articulate fashion book, I think is 79 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm not homophobic, but lots of people are homophobic, and therefore. 80 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: I could not pick may Or Pete. 81 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: What she's not saying is a lot of the homophobes 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: are actually black voters in the Democrat Party. Because Mayor 83 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Pete in South Carolina, when suddenly black voters have a 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: huge say in the Democrat primary wouldn't vote for him 85 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: at all. And right now in the did you see 86 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: a couple months ago they came out with a poll 87 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: of black voters. Mayor Pete's at zero percent. I think 88 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is not telling the truth here, go figure. 89 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: But I think they had data and they said, you've 90 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: already got an issue with black men. Twenty one percent 91 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: of them ended up voting Trump. But if you have 92 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: a gay white guy as your vice president, your issues 93 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: with black men are going to explode in a way 94 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: that makes you unelectable. In other words, this is a 95 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: sign of a substantial element of homophobia. You know who 96 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: loves Mayor Pete. White people, White women love Mayor Pete. 97 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: They would if only white women in America voted Pete. 98 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: May Or Pete would be right now the president of 99 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: the United States. Black men do not. And this goes 100 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: to the tension of the coalition of the party that 101 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: Democrats have built. Well, I do think it's it's funny 102 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: that Kamala decided to go there right now. She didn't 103 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: have to do this. Really, that's thee her book. 104 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: Again. 105 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: This is sometimes you have these unforced errors in books 106 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: where you have ten people reading them. This is like 107 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: with the Christy Nome, we talked about it shooting the 108 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: dog thing. I'm like, I don't know that i'd want 109 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: that to be one of the hallmarks of my autobiography. 110 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: If I were advising her, I don't know that I 111 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: would go into explaining why you didn't pick mayor Pete 112 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: and saying the country's not ready for a gay guy. 113 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: I got a theory on this book, but I want 114 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: to hear this. 115 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 2: But this is my. 116 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: Point, is that she's forced herself to speak on the 117 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: issue that all Democrats know is not supposed to be 118 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: spoken of, which is that a Democrat candidate cannot win 119 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: if he or she is gay, cannot win the primary 120 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: because they cannot win the black vote. And they's such 121 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: a substantial Black Democrat primary voting, you know, block that 122 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: it's came over and you're not All the data shows this, 123 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: but you're not supposed to talk about this because what 124 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: it begins to bring out is the identity politics coalition 125 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: of the Democrats is inherently at odds with itself in 126 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: a whole range of different ways. And that's where you're 127 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: just supposed to shut up and you just hope you 128 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: cobbled together enough votes from these different groups in some 129 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: cases who have very different views of what the future 130 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: of the country should look like or but as long 131 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: as they're all getting their piece of the pie, so 132 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: to speak, everything is supposed to be fine. Kamala Harris 133 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: is not an a depth politician. I said this all along. 134 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: She was pushed through the California system where you can 135 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: just get by with identity politics and the right connections. 136 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 1: You know, becoming the Attorney General and then a Senator 137 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: from California does not require you to have to play 138 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: the game the way that if you're going to be 139 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: a senator from Virginia or a Senator from North Carolina 140 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: or from Arizona, let's say, you know, you have to 141 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: understand the game a little bit differently. She got to 142 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: just let the system elevate her all the way through. 143 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: And and this is why she's then just say this 144 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: is I mean, if you want to do you want 145 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 1: to talk here, She's let me ask, well. 146 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: Let me give you my nat let me give you 147 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: my idea. 148 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: If I were trying to be incredibly charitable to Kamala 149 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: for how this gets in the book, she's directly undercutting 150 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: Mayor Pete while looking like she's not. In other words, 151 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: if she comes out and just directly says, hey, black 152 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: guys aren't going to vote for a gay white guy, 153 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: then it actually looks bad for her. Here she is 154 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: trying to fin and let other people make the argument 155 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: that she herself is not making because she actually sees 156 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Mayor Pete as one of her top adversaries in the 157 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: event that she runs again. Well, here or she is 158 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: asked about whether she's going to run again eighteen play it. 159 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 3: Insteader running in twenty twenty eight. 160 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: That's not my focus right now. I know it's not 161 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: my focus at all. 162 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: I know, really isn't you know? 163 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: I'm just going yeah, well, well let me I know 164 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: you're not considering it now. But are you Are you 165 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: saying when you decided said you're not going to run 166 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: for governor California, correct, Were you saying you are never 167 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: going to run for anything ever again? Or were you 168 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: just saying I'm not going to run for that office 169 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: right now? 170 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: That was the decision before me and I made the 171 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: decision not to run for governor of California. By the way, 172 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: there are a lot of great candidates running, and I 173 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: love my state, and we want somebody to definitely follow 174 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: in the footsteps of Gavin in terms of standing up 175 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: and understanding the power Thatlfornia has to stand up to 176 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: what we're saying in DC. 177 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: I think we all know that she's not running for 178 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: governor of California because that means she's she's not going 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: to be able to do both. And if she were 180 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: to lose, she's definitely not running for president then, so it's. 181 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: All or not. 182 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Once you've run for president, I don't really know that 183 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: you can run for anything else. Realistically, I think, well, 184 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: I should say, once you've been I'm sorry, once you've 185 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: been the nominee for president, I think it's very hard. Yeah, 186 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: of course you can run and run for other things. 187 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: But I mean if you've been the top of the 188 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: ticket and you lose, I don't think you then generally 189 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: are like, you know what, I'm going to be a 190 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: congressman now, or I'm gonna run for Senate, or I 191 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: mean I'll be a governor. Historically, if I'm not mistaken, 192 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: Nixon did just that right now. It's been fifty years, 193 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: but Nixon lost the presidency by a smidge to JFK 194 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: and then he ran for governor of California lost and 195 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: I think that's when he said he was like had 196 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: his fit and told the press you're never gonna have 197 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: Nixon to kick around anymore. And then he came back 198 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: in one in sixty eight. Well, the historians out there, 199 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: let me know if that's true. Now, I do think 200 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Kamalist memory pool. If you nailed all that, by the way, 201 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: I think the point still stands. I think it's very 202 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: very very unlikely that somebody will do that, especially in 203 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: the current political and media environment, but the fact that 204 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: it has ever happened would be pretty remarkable. 205 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: I think that's true. 206 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: I think that's why may Or Pete decided not to 207 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: run in the state of Michigan. Remember he left south 208 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: in Indiana. He now lives in Traverse City, Michigan. Shout 209 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: out to all of our new listeners in Traverse City, 210 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: fantastic place. I was up in northern Michigan over the 211 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: weekend talking to a lot of you, and I do think, 212 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: first of all, that's not a bad question from Rachel Maddow. 213 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: And she's smart, right, That actually is a question that 214 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: got an answer. You knew she's going to dodge it. 215 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: And then she followed up and said, okay, well, was 216 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: that California decision a no to politics going forward or 217 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: was it a note of just that particular office, because 218 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: it does leave open the door. By the way, you 219 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: nailed the timeline. Nixon ran and lost a close selection 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: of JFK in nineteen sixty nineteen sixty two, ran for 221 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: governor of California and lost to Democrat incumbent Pat Brown. 222 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: And then Nixon said, you won't have Nixon to kick 223 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: around anymore. And everyone believed his political career was over 224 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: at that point. So there is one comeback kid situation here. 225 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,479 Speaker 1: In sixty eight, after several years of supporting other Republican candidates, 226 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: Nixon launched a successful comeback campaign, defeated Hubert Humphrey and 227 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: third party candidate George Wallace to win the presidency. 228 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: But it didn't end up so great. 229 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: The good old Dickens actually won the presidency twice, then 230 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: won pretty comfortably, I think in seventy two, and then 231 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: obviously threw up the deuce is getting on the airplane 232 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: on the White House lawn after he was forced to 233 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: ignore me the whole other conversations. Nixon's real crime, if 234 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: there is such a thing was just being such a 235 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: successful and dedicated anti communist, and the left never forgave 236 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: him for that one. But that's a whole other conversation. Also, Uh, 237 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: I think there's a the Nixon and the Watergate investigation 238 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: and Woodward and birds seeing. There's so many angles to 239 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: that story still because I think it continues to infect 240 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: the way that media covers Republican politicians to this day. 241 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: It changed the calculus to a large extent forever. I 242 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: also think though that Kamala, irrespective of whether she knew 243 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: the Nixon history, and maybe she did, maybe she didn't, 244 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: she realized if she ran for governor and lost, that's 245 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: she's She's a two time loser from her home state. 246 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: And you know, in her own reality, I think there's 247 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: just no way. It's either run for president or run 248 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: for nothing. I think that's true and and I think 249 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: your your analysis is not wrong at all. In it's 250 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: correct that once you run for president it's seen as 251 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: a step back. 252 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: Now, Vivek is doing it right, but he will lost. 253 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: He run. 254 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: It's really about being the nominee. It's about being the 255 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: running when there's fifteen people running. It's just as I said, 256 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: it's like more, you know, it's the Vigon however knows 257 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: Vikas Romney went back and became a senator, right, There 258 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: are some guys, but I think everybody kind of knew 259 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney's political career was over and he still wanted 260 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: to be in the game, so to speak. But by 261 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: and large, I think she's gonna run. 262 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: Now. I think she's an awful candidate. 263 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 5: Uh. 264 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: The Gavin Newsom line is a little bit interesting there 265 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: because Gavin Newsome not calling her back. Fuck, this is 266 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: to me it should be talked about way more. This 267 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: is he's gonna have to convince. I mean, he's gonna 268 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: have to find ways to sweet talk Kamala into not 269 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: running because all she does is take attention, funding, and 270 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: focus off of him from that California ecosystem political ecosystem 271 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: early on. And so this is again, this is where 272 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: I think whatever she whatever appointment she wants, whatever cushy gig, 273 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, maybe something that's got longtime tenure attached, do it. 274 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: That's the Gavin Newsom plan. You do not want to 275 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: spend your first few months of the primary fighting it 276 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: out with somebody over your home state who's already been 277 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: vice president and already has a solid donor network and 278 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: everything else, right, so he's got to find a way 279 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: to He wants her to not run and then some 280 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: we got it, We'll come back. We can get into 281 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: this a little bit more. Our society works because of 282 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: the freedom's guaranteed by the First Amendment. Everyday American should 283 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: be able to speak openly about family, traditional values and 284 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: not fear retribution. 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It's it rolls off the tongue easier, 317 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 6: you don't trip over it. 318 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: So homologist comologist, I think he's right, like a Jim basically. 319 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah one also just apologist because much of what you 320 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: do is have to apologize for the arguments that she 321 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: is actually making as an official representative of the Society 322 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: of Comologists. You know, I think let's just give this 323 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: due respect here. You know, maybe there's some apologizing, but 324 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: there's also some celebrating of Kamala's most amusing moments. What 325 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: percentage of this audience do you think, like you has 326 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: purchased Kamala's book already? Is this the least because they 327 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: know that my job is to do it, to bring 328 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: them the golden nuggets from the book? Is this here 329 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: for the thing that you have most done in four 330 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: years that the audience will least do? In other words, 331 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: is this your biggest divergence in behavior from the audience? 332 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: It's definitely top five high on the list. Yeah, Oh no, 333 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: I think watching Morning Joe's up there too. Look, Prize Picks, 334 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: we've won two of the first three weeks. 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So, Jimmy Kimmel is going to be 352 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: back on air much of the nation, but not if 353 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: you have a Next Star or a Sinclair affiliate carrying 354 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: your ABC station. I have a Next Star affiliate here 355 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: in Nashville, So I will not get Jimmy Kimmel's show tonight. 356 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: Some of you will, some of you will not. It 357 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: will return. 358 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be talking about what he will say there, 359 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: But there has been a massive outpouring of attention on 360 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel not having his show. He was preempted, suspended, 361 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: whatever phrase you want to use from the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 362 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: Monday editions of his program, and he is now going 363 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: to be back on air on Tuesday. So he missed 364 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: four shows. You would think that it was the largest, 365 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: most significant attack on free speech that we have ever 366 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: seen based on the response from the left, So Jimmy 367 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: four shows. Similarly, if you care about free speech, a 368 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: story that is almost going to get no attention whatsoever, 369 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: but I think is one of the most significant of 370 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: the twenty first century, and that is YouTube has admitted 371 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: that it censored conservative speakers on their platform at the 372 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: behest of the Biden administration. We're going to talk to 373 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan about this tomorrow, but buck, let me just 374 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: give you a sense for how this went down. As 375 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: someone who ran a media company and needed to be 376 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: making money on YouTube, as many media companies do. Every 377 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: time I mentioned the COVID shot and said, hey, I 378 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: don't think you should get the COVID shot. I don't 379 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: think you need it if you're young and healthy, all 380 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: these things which have been proven to be true. You 381 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: mentioned masking every time I said things like wearing a 382 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: mask when you walk into a restaurant and then taking 383 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: it off when you sit down at the table is nonsensical. 384 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: We would get strikes, and when we got strikes, they 385 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: would prevent us from monetizing our content. And at one 386 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: point in time, because Tommy Laren is also one of 387 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: our employees at OutKick, at one point in time they 388 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: suspended us I believe it was for a month from 389 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: being able to make any money at all. And they 390 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: now are saying, hey, we shouldn't have done that, and 391 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it with Jim Jordan. But this is 392 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: actual free speech being attacked. And unlike Jimmy Kimmel, who 393 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: would have the opportunity to miss four days and come 394 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: back and he's making millions of dollars, many people out there, 395 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: including you, Buck, were curtailed significantly, including me, including the 396 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: company that I ran, OutKick, because we were willing to 397 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: say the truth about the COVID shot and about wearing 398 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: masks and about all of this such that this is 399 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: what they did. This is crazy. But I'm just I'm 400 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: taking you behind the curtain. I sold the company in 401 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. They stopped allowing my show to air live, 402 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: and they would edit out any reference that I happened 403 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: to make to COVID shots, to masking, to schools being closed, 404 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: all those things, and then post it so they could 405 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: monetize the other aspects of the show. Think about how 406 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: crazy that is. That is what and again, this was 407 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: the company to try to make money to pay people salaries. 408 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: YouTube is a huge driver of revenue for virtually every 409 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: media company in the country. Now, they would not air 410 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: my show live because we were getting so many strikes 411 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: that were disallowing us from being able to monetize this 412 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: damages It might be in the billions of dollars that 413 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: quote unquote conservative. I would just say common sense YouTubers 414 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: were dealing with for simply questioning whether we needed to 415 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: be mandating shots, whether they made sense. They essentially took 416 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: the Biden administration and did what the Biden administration would 417 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: not be able to do, which is sensor political speech. 418 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: They would do it again. Yes, part of this that 419 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: we all know, that's very frustrating. They're just backing off 420 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: right now because they don't want the eye of Trump 421 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: to focus in on them too closely in this moment 422 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: while our team, so to speak, is in power. That's so, 423 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to feel good about this other. 424 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 2: Than we were right. 425 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: And you know I had I had a you know, 426 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: small YouTube channel that got shut down, and it was 427 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: the kind of thing where you get a strike or 428 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: two and then you don't want to deal with it 429 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: anymore and so you just stop. 430 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: You know. 431 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: It was I was doing a radio show at the time, 432 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: but I was trying to also just put stuff out 433 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: clack on YouTube separately, and I just realized, this is nonsense. 434 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I had a whole PolitiFact story on me 435 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: about masks and other things, you know, just trying to 436 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: trash me. And Facebook, by the way, the same thing 437 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: shut down on Facebook. Anyway, I'm not this isn't what 438 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: it was me. And they did it into a lot 439 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: of people in our space. In fact that they didn't 440 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: do it to you when you were a conservative, I 441 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: would wonder like where were you during COVID and how 442 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: are you in any way useful? But these companies they're 443 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: admitting it now, like I said, because of where the 444 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: wind is blowing, they would we should not have any illusions. 445 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: They would do this again in a heartbeat. And it's 446 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: not a fair game. It's a rigged game on YouTube, 447 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: it's a rigged game on Facebook and has been for 448 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: years and rigged against people who are right of center. 449 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: So that is very frustrating because these platforms, because they 450 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: were dishonest about it, and they got really big. I mean, 451 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: this is something that else that I think everyone needs 452 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: to understand. YouTube and Facebook. In the early days, they 453 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: were Okay, we're going to allow different perspectives, and it 454 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: was essentially like a free speech within the law, which 455 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: is what it should always be. People say, oh, but 456 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: you know, you shouldn't be able to just have copyrighted material, 457 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: or oh you shouldn't be able to have you know, uh, 458 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: material that's illegal. Of course, no one's saying that. This 459 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: is about I don't like the content. I'm going to 460 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: and I'm going to block the audience from seeing it 461 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: and artificially shut it down, which is what they did, 462 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: and they did it for purely partisan purposes. They should 463 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: be ashamed. They're not ashamed. I'll point this out to you. 464 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: They don't care. They're just doing what's smart for them 465 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: right now. But for a lot of us. 466 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: Man. 467 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: This is uh. This is a reminder of what we're 468 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: up against and the kind of stuff that they were pulling, 469 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: and everything we said that they were doing was true. 470 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: This show YouTube refuse to allow us to post our 471 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: Rand Paul interview because of his city USA senator and 472 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: an MD, a medical doctor and a senator would not 473 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: let us put it on the internet running for reelection. 474 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: When in theory, whatever you think about Ram Paul, you 475 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: should want every single aspect of his political views to 476 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: be as widely distributed as possible. They took down our 477 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: interview with President Trump from Bedminster YouTube. 478 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: Yep. 479 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: Now I want all of you to go subscribe to 480 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: YouTube Clay and Buck right now. But I guarantee you 481 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: we are still minimized in distribution and algorithmic of success 482 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: because of the problem the ghosts and the machine linger 483 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: for a long time afterwards. Once once you're in YouTube jail, 484 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: you can basically never get out. That's the issue. Once 485 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: they decide that you're you're on the naughty list, you 486 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: don't get because it's all about the algorithmic showing of 487 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: shows to people so you can get more subscribers and 488 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: so that your own audience can see it. When they 489 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: decide that they're going to limit your reach, you're done. 490 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: They put you, they put you in jail. Here, by 491 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: the way, is what the House Judiciary Committee and Jim 492 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: Jordan put out just specifically so you know the Biden administry. 493 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: Google admitted the following to the House Judiciary Committee. One 494 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: the Biden administration pressured Google to censor Americans and remove 495 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: content that did not violate YouTube's policies. Two, the Biden 496 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: administration censorship pressure was quote unacceptable and wrong. Three public 497 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: debate should never comic the expense of relying authorities. Four 498 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: the company will never use third party fact checkers and 499 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: Europe sensor. Five europe censorship laws targeting American companies and 500 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: threatening American speech, including the removal of lawful content. And 501 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: again we'll talk with Jim Jordan about this tomorrow. But 502 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: this is crazy. We talked about it on this program. 503 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: Some of you will remember it. But sitting United States 504 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul interviewed on this program not allowed to 505 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: be posted on YouTube. President Trump, when we sat down 506 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: with him at Bedminster and interviewed him, they would not 507 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: allow us to post that entire interview. Can I just 508 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: the rand Paul issue as well had to do with 509 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: with COVID and Fauci. Rand Paul is a practicing medical doctor. Yes, 510 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: he is an actual MD and a US senator, And 511 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: they didn't let us post the interview on YouTube because 512 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: it went against their communist guidelines. I mean, they're the absurdity, right, 513 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: I mean, they went full Beijing on us with this 514 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: stuff and just decided what could and couldn't be said. 515 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: And you know it really YouTube showed us who they are. 516 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, you know, look, I know 517 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I said that. I said, we'll subscribe to our YouTube channel. 518 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: We'll use all the tools at our disposal to get 519 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: the message out as far as we can, as fast 520 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: as we can while we have them. So I make 521 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: no apologies for that, to be clear. So yeah, we 522 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: want to build up a YouTube presence now while we 523 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: can as long as we can, because we believe in 524 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: what we say and we think people need to hear it. 525 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: But is there trust? Is there trust that has been 526 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: built with these entities that can only be done over time, 527 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: That can only happen if they allow us to build 528 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: up the audience that we know we can have. But 529 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: we have millions of radio listeners, Clay, we're gonna you know, 530 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: we've been shadow banded on YouTube for a long time. 531 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Now they're telling us it's gone. Well, now let's see 532 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: if it's gone. I would also point out you will 533 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: probably not hear a word from anybody who has been 534 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: screaming about Jimmy Kimmel's free speech actually discussing Google admitting 535 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: that YouTube, which Google owns YouTube, that the Biden administration 536 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: pressured Google slash YouTube to restrict a lot of videos 537 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: out there and cost conservative media companies hundreds of millions 538 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: of dollars and maybe billions. And my concern is what 539 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: you just laid out, Buck, Yeah, they're doing this when 540 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: Trump is in office. Now, is that going to change 541 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: whenever we have a Democrat back in the White House. 542 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: Probably? 543 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: And this is where this matters. The Supreme Court withed 544 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: on this one. The Supreme Court had this case and 545 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: it was I think one of the most important First 546 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Amendment cases that they have had in my life. The 547 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: Biden administration on Facebook, on YouTube, all over the internet, 548 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: these social media companies, they restricted speech by a third party. 549 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: If you can deputize something that the government cannot do, 550 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: the government can't restrict your own mind speech. If the 551 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: government does it through a third party, then they're just 552 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: deputizing someone else to do what they could not do. 553 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened during COVID. I mean, they're one 554 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: of an opportunity. Yeah, one of the worst Supreme Court decisions. 555 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: I think we have six to three, one of the 556 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: worst Supreme Court decisions we have seen in a long time. 557 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: And if I went back and read through the decision, Clay, 558 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, I scanned through it quickly enough thun to 559 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: read the whole thing again, but I went through just 560 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: to remind myself of it. 561 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: And it was a lot of But can you. 562 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: Really prove that Biden pushed them, and can you really 563 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: prove there was a harm? And can you really tell 564 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: me they won't do this again? Or they will do 565 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: this again? It's like, well, nothing is certain, guys, But 566 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear what happened here. Yeah, they 567 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: did these things. I mean, Jensaki threatened the companies from 568 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: the White House press briefing and all of the emails 569 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: illustrate what they were doing, the fact that this was 570 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: not an opportunity, that the Supreme Court didn't take this 571 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to say stridently, this is unacceptable and we're not 572 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: going to stand for it. I think it's a failure 573 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: of this current Supreme Court. 574 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: I think it's the. 575 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: Beginning of Amy Cony, Barrett and Roberts. Let you down, Clay. 576 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: That's not the first or the last time, unfortunately, sadly, 577 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: and this goes to I don't think they understand the 578 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: internet that well. And I don't mean that as a 579 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: huge insult. Most seventy something year old people and most 580 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: sixty something year old people don't really understand how the 581 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: internet works. I think I understand pretty well how the 582 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: internet works. I don't understand admiralty law very well. 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Although I would argue that the way 653 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: I pronounced it is more fun. I just think it 654 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: like kind of has the has a vibe that feels better. 655 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: You know, you know what happened to me Buck? Speaking 656 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: of vocabulary. My fifth grader had a analogy section of 657 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: his English homework. I'm not trying to brag. I'm a 658 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: perfect score vertical guy on test scores, all right, I 659 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: do really well. I couldn't get all of his analogies. 660 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: I called in Laura fairly smart as well, and I 661 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: looked at him and I was like, this is the 662 00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: most difficult analogy section I have ever seen fifth grade. 663 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: Fifth grade, and you're gonna be in this situation at 664 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: some point in time where you're looking at the homework 665 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: the math. Don't even get me started on the way 666 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: they do math now. But I'm pretty good at analogies. 667 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out any of these analogies, and I 668 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: wanted to screenshot it and post it and let everybody 669 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: look at it. I don't even know what company is 670 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: doing these. I don't know if it's AI. We got 671 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: to be better at the homework that we're giving our 672 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: fifth graders out there. Play you just got to sneak 673 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: a little rock or a little chatchypt. 674 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: I don't even think that would work. 675 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: I think that's where this came from, because it was 676 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: analogies that would never ever be analogized in any Way, 677 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: the likes of fifth grade. I mean, this was tougher 678 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: than the SAT and the LSAT. We'll talk about some 679 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: more of this than we come back