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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Hevery with you on a Thursday night

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Speaker 1: football edition of Chargers Weekly. We have an oppressive lineup

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Speaker 1: to get you ready for Chargers Chiefs, including NFL Networks

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and Patrick Claybond, Matt Bowen of ESPN's NFL

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Speaker 1: Matchup Show, Chargers, NFL National reporter Eric Williams, and Joe

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Speaker 1: Ready of the Associated Press. But we'll kick things off

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Speaker 1: at the incomparable Joe Buck of Fox Sports. All right,

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Speaker 1: my first guest. We'll be in the booth this Thursday

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Speaker 1: night along with Troy Aikman for Chargers Chiefs on Fox.

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Speaker 1: The Great Joe Buck joins me on Chargers Weekly. Joey,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. Excited to see you in Kansas City. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we as a group are excited. I am

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Speaker 1: personally excited. I live on the other side of the state,

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Speaker 1: so it's not a thea of a trip for you

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Speaker 1: over there and see what is kind of the talk

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Speaker 1: of the last quarter of the schedule. I think certainly

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Speaker 1: in the AFC, if not the entire NFL with matchups

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Speaker 1: going down the stretch here, I mean it's fun, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we're kind of held to that same schedule

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Speaker 1: that they're held to on Monday Night when it comes out.

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Speaker 1: When the schedule comes out for the Thursday games, we

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Speaker 1: get what we get. There's no flexing, there's no none

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Speaker 1: of that, and you have to hope you're going to

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Speaker 1: get a great game or even a good one. And man,

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Speaker 1: we luck out into i think the game of the month,

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Speaker 1: and it's our last Thursday Night game of the year,

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Speaker 1: so it's a good way for us to go out. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Joe. For the most part, the slate

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Speaker 1: of games on Thursday have been excellent this year and

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Speaker 1: it's hard to ask for a better finale. As you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Arrowhead Stadium, what intrigues you most about a matchup

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Speaker 1: that that's really packed with a lot of fun storylines

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Speaker 1: as we get to playoff time, Yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's good for a number of reasons. First of all,

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Speaker 1: what we look forward to is seeing Philip Rivers play

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Speaker 1: on TV or through highlights or whatever. He's a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's having a wonderful season, and we haven't. We haven't

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Speaker 1: done many of his games, and that's unfortunate because I know,

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Speaker 1: of all the quarterbacks that Troy has gotten to know

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Speaker 1: over the years, mainly because of his relationship with North Turner.

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Speaker 1: He got to see Philip in year four and was

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Speaker 1: blown away way back then at how smart and how

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Speaker 1: And then for us to see Patrick Mahomes in person,

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Speaker 1: no look pass and all that these teams have developed

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Speaker 1: so much since they met in Week one that you

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Speaker 1: almost throw that tape out and start fresh, because it

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Speaker 1: seems like ages ago that they last met. You know,

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Speaker 1: before we talk about Philip, Joe, Let's touch on Mahomes

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Speaker 1: forty three touchdowns, just eleven picks. He was hit fifteen

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Speaker 1: times against the Ravens, but even then he made you

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Speaker 1: know that fourth and nine. You just can't teach it,

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Speaker 1: you can't defend it. Is there anybody that you've covered

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Speaker 1: over the course of your career that you can compare

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Speaker 1: what Mahomes has done in you know, it's essentially his

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Speaker 1: rookie season. Yeah. No, Yeah, I think that's the part

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Speaker 1: that everybody kind of forgets. You know that he played

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Speaker 1: think Andy Reid gets a lot of credit here for

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Speaker 1: guy that had a dad who pitched in the big

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Speaker 1: different teams. This kid grew up around professional sports, and

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Speaker 1: real thick guy, kind of wiry um. It's impressive, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I think it's remarkable in and of itself how you

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Speaker 1: of it is lessened because these teams do know each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as they just said, you know, they've played week one.

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Speaker 1: They're very different teams than they were week one, and

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Speaker 1: And when we talked to Philip Rivers, he said, he

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Speaker 1: So it's been fun for us, you know, for Troy

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Speaker 1: I'd tell you the Chargers on the road this year, Joe,

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Speaker 1: when they get on a plane this year they win.

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Speaker 1: They're six and oh outside of La County. The only

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Speaker 1: a Thursday, and a lot of the success. We talked

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Speaker 1: have talked about Philip. What do you admire most about

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Speaker 1: I admire most about Philip Rivers is probably a different

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Speaker 1: unbelievable all the stuff he handles out. He's extremely smart.

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Speaker 1: he'd be one of those guys that you'd want to

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Speaker 1: be around, you know, Joe. This Chargers team was in

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Speaker 1: And we know the household names, right, we know Rivers,

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Speaker 1: What do you see on this team on both sides

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Speaker 1: I think he named a couple of them right there.

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Speaker 1: I think this game is gonna be justin Jackson's game,

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Speaker 1: especially rains if it rains on Thursday. I just think

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. But there are bigger games

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Speaker 1: it seems like he's getting better and better. And what

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Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn told us is he's not just getting into

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Speaker 1: big night for Justin Jackson and Detress. On top of that,

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Speaker 1: you you mentioned Joey Bosa, and I think that's probably

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Speaker 1: his just his sheer presence on the field can affect

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Speaker 1: This is the finale on Thursday night. It's been a

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Speaker 1: like this team though, is just different and they're destined

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Speaker 1: to go into the playoffs. And I know that the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs have sort of owned the series. But that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really that that doesn't really matter to me because this

431
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: Chargers team is so sneaky good, and I kind of

432
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Speaker 1: like the fact that they have been a little under

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Speaker 1: the radar, even with the fact that they've been playing

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Speaker 1: so well. I feel like they really haven't gotten the

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Speaker 1: attention that they deserved. I think that they're sort of

436
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Speaker 1: underappreciated this year, and Philip Rivers is always underappreciated, and

437
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Speaker 1: I think that this game people's will finally see how

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Speaker 1: great they are. Well, and that's the thing too, Colleen,

439
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: is you know, I just talked to Joe Buck about

440
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Speaker 1: the fact that we know the how whole names, right,

441
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: we know Antonio Gates and Philip Rivers and Keenan Allen,

442
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: but there's some other guys on this roster. And you mentioned,

443
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Speaker 1: you know, we don't know Melvin status as we tape this,

444
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: but a guy like Justin Jackson showed out on a

445
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Speaker 1: national stage a couple of weeks ago against Steelers Desmond

446
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 1: King with that punt return. And then Darwin James, well,

447
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what else we can say about Darwin

448
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: James and just the season that he's had this year. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: And that's the cool thing about these Thursday night games

450
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: is there are so many people just don't get a

451
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Speaker 1: chance to really dial in and dive into these rosters

452
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Speaker 1: and see these guys that aren't household names, and finally

453
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Speaker 1: on Thursday nights, anytime there's a primetime game like this,

454
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Speaker 1: we really get to see these guys shine, and especially

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Speaker 1: the rookies and the seasons that they've been having. And

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00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: it's like, I think a lot of times teams get

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Speaker 1: lucky when they have primetime games in the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the season because they start kind of getting that attention

459
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Speaker 1: throughout the year. But this is a game for the

460
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Speaker 1: Chargers that I think be a little bit of a

461
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: turning point, especially for their young guys. What do you

462
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Speaker 1: make of the Chiefs as we take this in mid December.

463
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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have been rolling. We know about

464
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Speaker 1: that ridiculous Monday night game against the Rams they lost

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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. But at the same time, Patrick Mahomes has

466
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Speaker 1: looked like the same guy from week one to week fifteen.

467
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: There's been no drop off and he's got to be

468
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Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse right now. Is the MVP. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is so much fun to watch, especially this past

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Speaker 1: week against the Ravens, because I was a little worried.

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Speaker 1: I thought that for sure was going to be a

472
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Speaker 1: really huge test, and it was for them for their offense,

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Speaker 1: but really for that running game. I wanted to see

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Speaker 1: how the Ravens would kind of shut them down, and

475
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Speaker 1: how the Chiefs would look without Koreem Hunt in there.

476
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Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes. It's like, no matter the situation, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't really he's not like he just shows up every

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Speaker 1: single time and he rises to the occasion. And even

479
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Speaker 1: his bad plays, when you think that a play is dead,

480
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Speaker 1: he somehow keeps it alive. He just he pops off

481
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: the screen. He really flashes in these games, and he's

482
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Speaker 1: just so good and so much fun to watch. He

483
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Speaker 1: really is. And it'll be interesting to see what happens

484
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Speaker 1: in December versus January. We don't know. You know, I've

485
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: used his example a couple of times this week a

486
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: year ago, and this is directly to the team you

487
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Speaker 1: cheer for. You know, when Carson Wentz went down, everyone

488
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: thought that the Eagles were done right, and then what

489
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: happens a month later? You go to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: you know, so we have no idea based on what's

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Speaker 1: going on in December, what's going to happen in January. No,

492
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Speaker 1: And I mean that's like the best part. But the

493
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Speaker 1: thing with this game, it's like it could determine the

494
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Speaker 1: division winner. It could it could decide who's going to

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Speaker 1: have home fields. I mean, the winner. It's crazy to

496
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Speaker 1: say that the winner here could have home field throughout

497
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then the loser, even though they could

498
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Speaker 1: have the second best record in the AFT, could have

499
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Speaker 1: to play on the road as a wild card team.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, it really is. And like you said that

501
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Speaker 1: this this week, Candict Tate a lot or it will

502
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Speaker 1: dictate a lot in terms of what's going to happen

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Speaker 1: with both the Chargers and Chiefs come January. Colleen Wolf,

504
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: you can see Colleen on Good Morning Football Weekend and

505
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: that's every Saturday. It's six am Pacific. Sunday four am Pacific. Colleen,

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Speaker 1: When do you sleep? Is there a time where you

507
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: can sleep? I sleep on Mondays and Tuesdays. It's great.

508
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: I just like catch off on everything then and then

509
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm hooked up to a charging station and then they

510
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Speaker 1: just let me go for the rest of the week.

511
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, Hey, You've been absolutely crushing it

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Speaker 1: this year. It's been awesome to see you on the

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Speaker 1: pregame show Thursday night in the postgame show as well.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing Casey. We'll grab some barbecue. Yes,

515
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: sounds good. Thanks so much, Chris. All right, guys, before

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Speaker 1: about at number seventeen, who do he thinks the best

534
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: fit for the Chargers as Darrown James, I do. I do. Hey,

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00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm a little partial. There is a next defensive back end,

536
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: but I look at how a guy like that, and

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Speaker 1: I see what what Cam has done in terms of

538
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 1: overall impact. You have to know where he is at

539
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: all times. And that's Seattle defense, right and especially they're

540
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: great defenses of the past couple of years. You can't

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Speaker 1: run crossing roads. If you do, you better ask some

542
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: rid pads on Okay, all right, he's an impact your

543
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: run front. He's just an a dominant force on your defense.

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00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: And I look at coach Bradley's system and what they do,

545
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Speaker 1: and you put him in there on day one, and

546
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Speaker 1: he's gonna tackle too. I know how important tackling is

547
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: a coach. He played Cover three. You don't tackling, you

548
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: don't have a chance. So he's gonna tackle. I think

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00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: that's a guy that could possibly be there. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: March first. We don't know yeah, but since lets we're

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Speaker 1: playing that game on March first, I'm gonna say Derwin

552
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Speaker 1: James is a pick if I'm the LA Chargers. All right.

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Speaker 1: That voice you just heard was ESPN's Matt Bowen back

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Speaker 1: at the NFL Combine, an Indie predicting Derwin James the Chargers.

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00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: It was March first. It was even before Durwin worked

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Speaker 1: out in Indianapolis and Matt kind enough to join me. Now, Matt,

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that the Derwin James

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Speaker 1: selection has worked out pretty good for the Chargers. Yeah,

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00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: it really has. And going back to when we talked

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Speaker 1: about it at the combine, it was more than just

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00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: about scheme thing, you know, And that's what you did

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Speaker 1: during the offseason. You look at it, whether it's offensive,

563
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Speaker 1: defense side of the ball, who fits your scheme because

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Speaker 1: I think it's the first place coaches look, well, yes

565
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: they want Tomnt, but they want Tempt that also fished.

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Speaker 1: Your team allows them to development with their coaching traits,

567
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: and that's an ideal spot for Derling. It always has

568
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: been because of gust Bradley, because of what they do

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Speaker 1: in the defense, defensive side of the ball, and when

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Speaker 1: you watch his film this year. I've always said this.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to see guys as flash.

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Speaker 1: You know that happens with a with a lot of

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Speaker 1: young players, especially rookies. They flash in the time of time.

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Speaker 1: They show you that high level tump. He doesn't pretty consistent.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think right now he's a leading

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Speaker 1: Canada for Defensive Rookie of the Year because he is

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Speaker 1: right now as I see it, one of the most

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Speaker 1: complete young players at the safety position. He can roll

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Speaker 1: down in coverage and play top down on routes. He

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Speaker 1: can impact the run front, he can blitz off the edge.

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Speaker 1: He can use him as you in your sub package

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Speaker 1: as a dime or a nickel linebacker, and he can

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Speaker 1: play over the top. And he's I look at a

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Speaker 1: couple of plays earlier in the year when he's playing

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Speaker 1: you know, blood routes or three level routes and he's

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Speaker 1: got to say and can flip his hips. It's a

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00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: smooth transition for him as well. And we know about

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Speaker 1: his closing speed. And ultimately the best thing is he's

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Speaker 1: so physical, and that's what you want. If you're a

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00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: secondary coach. You can win with that. You can fix

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Speaker 1: everything else and granted we can both go back to

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Speaker 1: the film and look at situations where during has a

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Speaker 1: false step, where he took a poor angle. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the proper level. But as a coach, I look

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Speaker 1: at that and say, that's a great You gotta gotta

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Speaker 1: make the mistake first so then we can correct it together.

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Speaker 1: What I can't coach is your physicality, your competitiveness, that

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Speaker 1: ability to play at a top level consistently in terms

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Speaker 1: of your effort, your speed to football, and your ability

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Speaker 1: to finish. And that's why I love watching them play.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'm putting together piece for yes, Pane'll

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Speaker 1: be out next week. I do it every year. It's

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Speaker 1: called my Shutdown Index. And what I do is I

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Speaker 1: take all the defensive back from the league and I

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Speaker 1: look at the top players at the cornerback position and

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Speaker 1: free safety, strong safety, inside and the slot, and I

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Speaker 1: agrade them on specific categories. And right now, Darlin James

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Speaker 1: is gonna be the guy's most like to coach. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the best rookie safety and he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: mentioned as one of the most complete sagems. Impressive man.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Matt, He's been used everywhere. You have

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Speaker 1: the luxury of being able to play him in the box.

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Speaker 1: He use him at free when you when you look

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Speaker 1: at this Chiefs team, where's the best spot to use

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Speaker 1: him on Thursday night? Is it just a combination of everything.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the combination of everything, because you know,

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Speaker 1: we know Gus is gonna play some three D zone covers.

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Speaker 1: That's who they are. And you know you don't change

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Speaker 1: who you are from one football game. So he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be rolled down as a curl flag detendant where he

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Speaker 1: can impact and run game, where he can buzz underneath

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Speaker 1: an outrute, where he can carry a seam route up

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Speaker 1: the field at the Travis Kelsey and I think you

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Speaker 1: want to use him in pressure situations as well, And

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Speaker 1: that's one thing going against Patrick Mahomes and the Ravens

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Speaker 1: found that out last week, and I thought the Ravens

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Speaker 1: had really good football. You know, Mahomes made plays late,

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Speaker 1: that's what he's done all the year. But when you

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Speaker 1: pressure you want you want it can recorrect against a

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Speaker 1: quarterback with movement skills, and that's what Patrick Mahomes does.

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Speaker 1: He can extend plays just as well as anyone in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. At times it looks like Aaron Rodgers. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't ability to get outside the pocket and throw from

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Speaker 1: multiple arm angles, throw from multiple platforms and still put

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Speaker 1: heat on the throw down the field. It's super impressive. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially in third down situations, I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 1: setting doing as a part of the Blitz front in

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Speaker 1: specific situations. You know, Patrick Mahomes, I'd say you rate

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Speaker 1: from week one Matt He has been probably from start

640
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Speaker 1: to finish, the leading candidate for MVP. Forty three touchdowns,

641
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: eleven interceptions. What's the most difficult part of defending this guy?

642
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: Because he's just been he's been so consistent. I think

643
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: everybody was waiting for a drop off. It just never happened. Yeah,

644
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: I agree, and that's why I looked at this Ravens

645
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: scheme was a great test for him because the defense

646
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: is pretty multiple. You know, you walk Baltimore and Films

647
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: and they gave you a bunch of multiple fronts. They

648
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: got guys mugged up to the line of scrimmage, then

649
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: they're dropped to the coverage, late safety rotation, very physical corners.

650
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: That's a great defense to watch. And early in that

651
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: game they were playing like I said, playing great football,

652
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: But going back to what you said, he still continue

653
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: to finish that football game and play at a high

654
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: level in critical game situations as well. I really think

655
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: it's a combination of a lot of things. One is

656
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's office, okay, and what Andy Reid has done

657
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: to cater to his quarterback fact. That's a mix of

658
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: old West Coast that I played again with Andy Reid

659
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: when he was the head coach un Philadelphia Eagles early

660
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: two thousand, same roubins, okay, But what he's done is

661
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: added to that with more college spriends stuff as well,

662
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: a lot of pre snap movement, a lot of post

663
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: snap movement, a lot of misdirection that can grab the

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Speaker 1: eyes a second level defender to create open throwing windows,

665
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: and he doesn't need you know, most own quarterback need

666
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: a pretty defined roadmap more to throw the football. He

667
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: doesn't need a very big throwing window. Given his arm count,

668
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: he can put it anywhere on the football field. Now

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Speaker 1: you add that to his athletics and his ability to

670
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: create off schedule, well, that's a lot of defense. If

671
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm a defensive back, that's a that's a lot of

672
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: work to get ready for on game day because of

673
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: what he can do within the system as well. You

674
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: know that Week one matchup, what are the big players

675
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: that was not in that game? Joey Bosa number ninety nine.

676
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: How much does his presence affect what the Chargers can

677
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: do defensively? Maybe getting to Mahomes with four and then

678
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: just kind of drop a back point. Well, that's great,

679
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: That's that's the ultimate thing you want to be able

680
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: to do is to go to Rushbourn, get home with

681
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: four and not necessarily put the quarterback on the ground,

682
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: but impact that throwing platform, create disruption. If you can

683
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: disrupt the pocket, and now you can drop seven into

684
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: covers nine, you can play cover three, you can get

685
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: back into some quarters. You know, the charters on a big,

686
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: too deep team, but they can play him too deep,

687
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: especially in third and long situations if you got the

688
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: guys up front and having Bosa back. He looks great

689
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: on film right now he does. He's getting homes the quarterback.

690
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: You're seeing the same things with Bosa. I mean, just

691
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: like his brother. He watched his brother at Ohio State

692
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: and his film. It's the high level techniq. You know,

693
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: it's one thing to be a great athlete off the edge.

694
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great athletes off the edge in

695
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's another thing to have the high level

696
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: technique to mesh with that athleticism. So we'll both you

697
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: get the speed off the ball, get the power on contact,

698
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: and then you get the hands. I mean some of

699
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: that stuff his teaching tape now visibilities slap down hands

700
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: or ripple over hands to create an angle, use a

701
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: spin move just such a high level player and get

702
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: him back. At this point of the season, imagine that

703
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: is such a great thing for that defense because going

704
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: back to you, what are your point and what it

705
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: does from gus as a play call based on game

706
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: situation and said, look, we trust our edge guys are

707
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: going to get home and just ruugh the pocket and

708
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: that's gonna allow us to get play with death at

709
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: least forced the ball underneath. Now we can drive down

710
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: hill and tackle and get off the field. Yeah, he

711
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: came back at the perfect time for this playoff push.

712
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: You're flip it over the offense, Matt. If it weren't

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Speaker 1: for Mahomes and let's say Drew Brees, Philip Rivers may

714
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: be the leading candidate in this MVP conversation. He had

715
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: thrown for multiple touchdown passes in every game this season

716
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: up until Less Sunday against Since he he's got twenty

717
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns just six picks. He's been taking care of

718
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: the football, especially on the road. What's impressed you most

719
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: about what Philip has been able to do this year.

720
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: I think he's so dialed in. Here's the thing about

721
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and when we talk about it every week

722
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: when we're getting ready to do the you know, the

723
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: matchup show at ESPN, is his ability to diagnose and

724
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: read defense. His pre snapped and that's such a high

725
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: level trait of Philip Rivers and allows him to know

726
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: where he's gone with the football. He's a master at

727
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: the line of screen. I mean, yeah, it's just up there,

728
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: just like Breeze, just like Brady, just like the vests

729
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: have been playing this game for a long time. So

730
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: it's the safety. You're gonna show him one thing. He

731
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: knows where you're going. You can try to hold that

732
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: disguise all you want. That's great. You know, that goes

733
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: back to when I was in the league and guys

734
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: are playing against Peyton Manny you take one step downhill.

735
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: He knows who you're going. They're already date, so that's

736
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: a part of it. But also he's dealing. He's dealing

737
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: with football right now. And you know what the charters

738
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: want to do. A lot of high low content means

739
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: you have one guy underneath, one guy up top of wiles.

740
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers will read those second level of guys attacked

741
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: the throwing window. They're gonna run a lot of man

742
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: covers beaters Thursday night. That's what Kansas City is and

743
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: sees a man covers steave a lot of free safety

744
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: and the folks for guys playing man covers. This is

745
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: the type of game of Keenan Allen should be very

746
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: productive because you can run rob routs, you can run

747
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: Allen on crosses. You can have him win at the

748
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage where he is so smoothed off the

749
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: off the ball, off the release versus press coverage, and

750
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: that allows him to create separation. And when you do

751
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: that and you have a free state that Philip Rivers

752
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: can manipulate with his eyes in the middle of field.

753
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: Now he can create even more voids than the coverage

754
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: to the look of the ball. Yeah, you know, Keenan

755
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: had nineteen targets against Pittsburgh Steelers, and I think you

756
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: saw why. He's probably one of the best route runners

757
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: in this league. I mean, if you put a linebacker

758
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: arm right, it's lights out, Yeah it is. And that's

759
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: what pittsber was trying to do. They're trying to play

760
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: with you know, we call mass covers and that's my

761
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: since the defender. I describe it like anyone who's played basketball.

762
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: I mean there's a difference three of two three zone,

763
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: a two three matchup zone, right, so you're not spot

764
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: dropping trying to master the defenders in the area, and

765
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: it almost turns into man coverage. So they call him

766
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: matchup coverage. And you know, Philip Rivers got him. You

767
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: found a match up you want, and that's what he does.

768
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: And when he gets that match up, he doesn't miss

769
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Speaker 1: very all. Matt. Another guy I want to ask you about,

770
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Speaker 1: and we've talked about him at length in the past.

771
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: It's Desmond King. He's a former Hawkeye like yourself, and

772
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: he has made game altering please all season long, to

773
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: a point where I'm just gonna list a few for you.

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00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: He had a big fifty plus yard punt return against

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, two picks, big punt return in Cleveland, He

776
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: had a pick six of Russell Wilson in Seattle, forty

777
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: yard kick return in Arizona. Of course that seventy three

778
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: yard punt return for a touchdown under the lights in Pittsburgh.

779
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: What is it about Desmond and just this knack to

780
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: be able to make the big play? I think they

781
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: don't want He's a hawk guy that helps now there no,

782
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: but you know that's the here's the thing. Destin's and

783
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: been doing that city since he got the Iowa City. Okay,

784
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: that started earlier Destine's college career. I've always said, the

785
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: guys that are around with football on defense, they're not

786
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: there by accident. Okay, I don't care if he gets

787
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: seven kicks they are all tipped. You're still around the football.

788
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Speaker 1: Guys that like that, you know, I described like that.

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Speaker 1: I said it's someone before. It's like, uh, it's like

790
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Speaker 1: anyone's seeing the matrix for Neo's dodging all those bullets.

791
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, everything that slows down for you is defensive back.

792
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: There's some dbs that play in the matrix, right and

793
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Speaker 1: they they are they are magnets to the football that's

794
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Speaker 1: what Desmond is now. Grady, everyone knows he's a physical defender.

795
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Speaker 1: He's a great again, a great fit for the scheme

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00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: I could talk about with Drone. He's a great fit

797
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: as a slot corner Gustus scheme because he can play underneath,

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00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: because he's physical, he could tackle, he could drive downhill

799
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Speaker 1: in the football. He has an ability to close windows

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Speaker 1: like we're just talking about the Philip Rivers all attacking

801
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Speaker 1: up one those windows clothes. Just like the pick six

802
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: against Russell Wilson. Buzz I was an underneath, throw the

803
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: fund defender and go get the football. But also what

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00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: he can do on special teams, and that's a huge

805
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: bonus to them because let's go back to the combine.

806
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, doesn't ran the low four fives and everyone said, oh,

807
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: it's not that's not fast enough, and turn on the tape.

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00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm tell him he's not fast enough. He's got game speed.

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00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: It's all that matters. It's all that matters because he's

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Speaker 1: what he can do is a kick retires, a punt returner,

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Speaker 1: and that's his vision. That's being a football player, that's

812
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: being physical, understanding. And you go back to the catch

813
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Speaker 1: points in the NFL. I'm telling me, I usw your

814
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Speaker 1: cover points. You're gonna get hit a lot. You're really

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Speaker 1: gonna get hit a lot. It's a physical position to play.

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00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: And also his ability to find daylight as a return

817
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: that's a natural instinct ability. You can't just necessarily teach

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00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: that and put someone back to them might run the

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00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: low four fours, they go return punts. Now, there's an

820
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: art to it, there's a crap to it, and that's

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00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: a big bonus of what he braces football team. And

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Speaker 1: you know he wasn't back there in Week one when

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00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Chargers would head to head. He's really

824
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: secured the special teams, the kick return game, in the

825
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: punt return game, so he could play a factor on

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00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: Thursday night for sure. Another guy I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about a Chicago guy, Justin Jackson, Northwestern's all time

828
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: leading rusher. He had a memorable college career, a durable guy.

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Speaker 1: He came up big against the Steelers eighty two total

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Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown just in that second half. Matt

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Speaker 1: with with Gordon and Eckler banged up. A lot could

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Speaker 1: fall on Jackson's shoulders on Thursday. What do you like

833
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Speaker 1: about Justin's game. Well, here's an interesting story. I Justin

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Speaker 1: Jackson playing state championship for Glenbarton Norsin was about twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes from my house, and I called the game. I'm

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Speaker 1: TV for him to see Sports Chicago. This is back

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Speaker 1: what twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, whatever it was, and Gumbert

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Speaker 1: Norths we're in the pro stouse, just some kind of

839
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Speaker 1: like Stanfords office. You know, they were downhill power and

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00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Justin never came off the field play defense too. I

841
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: want to say, kick extra points at a time, Durness.

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00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: He did everything for glenbar Nor, like they said, great

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00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: college career with a great college coach and Patris Show

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Speaker 1: a great college coach and an excellent program in north Western.

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Speaker 1: And I think when we look at Justin Jackins, especially

846
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: that Steelers film, I think he's surprised a lot of people.

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00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: I think he did because he did show the speed

848
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: to the whole. Okay, he did show power on contact.

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Speaker 1: He did show that extra wiggle from slip tackles and

850
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: make defenders miss. You can win with that. You can

851
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: win with that. And here's the thing about the run

852
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: back position again, miserables, I don't care I don't care.

853
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Once we get to the games. Show me you can

854
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: play the game. Show me you can pass the tech

855
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: from Philip Rivers, Show me you can catch the football

856
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: at the back till because that was a big part

857
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: of that first early in the season, especially for the

858
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: Charge and the first game against Kansas City, what they

859
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: did with the running backs in the passing game. You know,

860
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: whether it's the swing er out outside where it's going

861
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: to the flattest part of the flood route, whether it's

862
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: creating a pick route like they did earlier in the

863
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: season against Buffalo for Red's own touchdown. Those things matter,

864
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: getting a line getting a running back matched up to

865
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: a linebacker, which they did versus Kansas Set in that

866
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: first matchup inside of the red zone. So the running

867
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: back in such a high priority in this offense. And

868
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Justin Jackson might not have the high level athletic traits

869
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: of Melviourne Gordon, but he can produce in your offense

870
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: because of the players around all right, and when you

871
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: open enough creased for him to find that daylight, he

872
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: can put his foot in the ground and get up

873
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: the field. That's amazing story. You actually called that game

874
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,479
Speaker 1: in high school Injustice. It's incredible. Glombard and North versus

875
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: Mount Farmer, Scottle Mount Clarmer. Yeah, I did. It was

876
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: a back to back. That was the the first time I've

877
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: done this, Chris So we did the seven eight game first,

878
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: which was my old matter, Glimbard West versus Lincoln Ways,

879
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: and then you get like ten minutes off you do

880
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: another game. Uh man. It was a champaigne the University

881
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: of Illinois, and I didn't know, you know, I've never

882
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: done this stuff anymore, Okay, So I didn't know that

883
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: the glass is gonna beul. I was freezing, freezing up there.

884
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: It was a Thanksgiving weekend. But I just talked to

885
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: I just talked to Joe Buck and you know he's

886
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: got to prepare for Thursday in Sunday. But ten minutes

887
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: in between, that's a tight turnaround. Man. You have a

888
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: quick one up trophy presentation, then you're back in the

889
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: air discussing the next game. Um and you know in

890
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: high school you're gonna get the spread. Some teams are

891
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: on a double wing, some teams from pro style. Uh see,

892
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: you're a lot of different things are going on through

893
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: your line. And Mount Palmwell is splip back beer. So yeah,

894
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: it was. It was an interesting experience for me. I

895
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: love doing I loved it. You know, I coached in

896
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: high school. I love high school fomall. Yeah, well, hey,

897
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta brag on you. Another state title, right,

898
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: and it's one of a Thursday titles the row I

899
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: see Kathy Prepp and we're still in WI. Just amazing

900
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: and it's a it's I talked about this a lot

901
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: with people. This is our senior class, our senior class

902
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: at I see Catholic in the last three years with

903
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: forty one and one. I'll play the soft there was

904
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: a class built on leadership, on character and toughness. And

905
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: we have kids, we have a couple of kids whore

906
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna play Division one football all the way down to

907
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: Division three, Division two and n aiens. There's a bunch

908
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: of tough kids are gonna go on and play at

909
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: the next level at different levels. But we'll never have

910
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: another class like that, not in terms of the leadership.

911
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: And we could go out there as coaches and watch

912
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: practice and they would run it. I mean, that's the

913
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: time when you have that. As a coach, it's a

914
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: great thing. You want to see him developed from when

915
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: they started playing varsity ball as a sophomore until they

916
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: graduated seniors and going to the last game, we played

917
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: Bishop Mcamara at Kankakee with the South of Chicago. We

918
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: played them every year, so it was a sixth time

919
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: we played in the last four years. So when you

920
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: have a team like that, just like Kansas City and

921
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers and Switch, there's nowhere to hide. I mean,

922
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: you're not gonna surprise anyone. You are who you are,

923
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: and they're post style, downhill physical I formation, they'll get

924
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: into a little two by two spread. But it was

925
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: about one thirty one twenty one. I mean, one of

926
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: the most physical high school games I've ever been around.

927
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: And we're small class so we're four A out of

928
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: eight A. So both US and Bishop MCA marry. Those

929
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: kids don't come out the field. They all know you're

930
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: two way players and special teams. So but it was great.

931
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: You mean in the playoff run, I love the playoff

932
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: running Illinois because we are smaller, so we go out west,

933
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: we go south. We played some wishbone beer teams, play

934
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: some wing team teams, and then you play some spread teams.

935
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: So every week is a new challenge. Defensively, as a coach,

936
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: you get your players ready. One from a game player perspective,

937
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: but also personnel matchup perspective. It's much different, you know,

938
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: tackling a two hundred and thirty pound fullback than it

939
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: is playing against the spread and playing his own reef,

940
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: no doubt, So you know that's a lot different. But

941
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: really this has had such a major impact on my

942
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: life to get back into the game of football and

943
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: the coach, especially at that level, because the game has

944
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: mean everything. They mean everything to those kids at that age,

945
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: and it'll win three state championships. They will never forget

946
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: that and it will help them and later in life.

947
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: It will help them later in life. It's priceless stuff.

948
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: And I love the parallel of you talk about Bishop

949
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: back Namara and you know these divisional matchups, like you said,

950
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: the Chargers in Chiefs, they know each other. I'll get

951
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: you out here on this, Matt. You've watched a ton

952
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: of tape on both these teams. I know you watched

953
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: that that Week one matchup. In your estimation, what's the

954
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: most important thing the Chargers need to do in this

955
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: one to get to win a narrowhead? Find Tyreek Hill.

956
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is you understand Tyrek

957
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: Hills in the field. We all understand, but where is

958
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: he aligned? Okay, that's a big thing for me. If

959
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: you go back to the when the Chiefs play at

960
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: the Rams that Monday night shoot out. Okay, we'll go

961
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: back to Week one against the Chargers when Tyreek Hill

962
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: is inside the trips formations. I mean there's three receivers

963
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: on one side and he's at number two or number

964
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: three to count out outside every one, two, three, he's

965
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna get to football? How are they gonna get it

966
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: to him? Though a lot of times it's verticals with

967
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: them walking across the field right, So you have to

968
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: understand where he's going to be. And that's tough if

969
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: you're playing a Cover three defense. What they're trying to

970
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: do there, Christ is get a match up versus a

971
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: linebacker down the middle of the field, and that's very

972
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough match up Pranny linebacker in

973
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, it's a tough matchup Prenty dB Taris Hilverns

974
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: four to forty. He could fly down the field, So

975
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: find him. And also you have to limit Travis Kelson

976
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: I mean he's playing at such a high level right now. Physical,

977
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: very good route runner and with Patrick Mahomes, he's gonna

978
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: put the ball wherever he wants to right now. Matt

979
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: Bowen awesome stuff as always. Man, If you guys haven't,

980
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: it's appointment viewing, be sure to watch the NFL Matchup show,

981
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: I believe on the West Coast. It's Saturday mornings five

982
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: thirty a and Pacific. It's also on overnight and early

983
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: Sunday mornings, so if you're not up just DVR it.

984
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: You have to check it out. You and Greg cas

985
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Sell awesome work. How How has that been man to

986
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: be a part of that show this year? It's been awesome.

987
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: That's been awesome. I think it's from it's a great

988
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: show to kind of fit my skill set and what

989
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: I do as an analyst sort to be able to

990
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: watch film and to break it down and use it

991
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: almost like a teaching tool. I look at it very

992
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: similar to coaching on the field or teaching in classroom,

993
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: where you're teaching the subject and it's how you break

994
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: it down, how you present it, and you do it

995
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: in a way that people can understand and learn from.

996
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: Movies that's what people want. They want to learn from it,

997
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: and it's been great. You mentioned Greg. Greg is awesome

998
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: working with South tel Antonio. I mean, those are two

999
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: leaders right there, two very good leaders who have helped

1000
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: me tremendously. This is the first time I've done something

1001
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: like that. You know, we talked about doing the high

1002
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: school cadens. Well, this is a brand new to me

1003
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: as well. So the comfort level they've allowed me to

1004
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: be at has helped me so much grow. I've always said,

1005
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, if I look at the first show I

1006
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: did beget a season, I think I've improved a lot.

1007
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 1: And there's no different than being a player, just reps,

1008
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: reps and doing things and getting that experience. So I've

1009
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: loved and we've done a lot of charts and we're

1010
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: gonna keep doing the charts and obviously a doom this week.

1011
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: It's a plan on Thursday night, but we will move

1012
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: back to when the Chargers very very soon. And I

1013
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: tell you, man, that's why I wanted to have you on.

1014
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: I always learned something when I talk to you. Matt.

1015
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: You're the best man. Thank you so much, and we'll

1016
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: be watching you on NFL Matchup all right. Thank you

1017
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: NFL Network coming in strong this week. Patrick Clayburn here

1018
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: at the Hoge Performance Center, Patrick, what's up brother? Good

1019
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: and just good to be out here. This is my

1020
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: first time coming down to the Hogan. I really like it.

1021
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: It's a nice little senior right, it's picturesque. I see

1022
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: you when coming through these this amber waves of gray

1023
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: and almost outside of the front door, and really it's

1024
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: it's really nice. Yeah, well it's quiet here now. But

1025
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: a short week for the Chargers. Would you learn about

1026
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: this team in the few short hours you were here? Well,

1027
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: just short being the operative phrase there, because it's just

1028
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: such a quick turnaround. Yeah, And talking to Damien Square

1029
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: just about game planning because looking at what the Ravens

1030
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: did against this Chief team, it's so exotic and they

1031
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: move in a way that no other team can, so

1032
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 1: you really can't get caught up and in their method

1033
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: to attacking this offense. And what Damien said to me

1034
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: makes sense. It just have something simple that you can

1035
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: execute well. Because with Tyreek and the things that he

1036
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: can do, and Mahomes and the things that he can do,

1037
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 1: even even without Kareem Hunt, there's there's just so little

1038
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: opportunity for you to get something done, and so they

1039
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: get a lot of bad tricks, you know, and when

1040
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: you have you have the tricks, right, that's one thing

1041
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: you plan for the tricks. But when it's just sheer talent,

1042
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: there's there's only so much you can do, and there's

1043
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: only so many things you can do to counteract that.

1044
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: And so you just got to play the best game

1045
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: that you can play. Kareem Hunt not in the mix,

1046
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: but you alluded to it. I mean, Damian Williams, Spencer Ware,

1047
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: those guys come in and do a remarkable job. And

1048
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: there's just the sheer speed of Tyreek Hill coupled with

1049
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: the arm of Mahomes, the just the improvisation of Mahomes.

1050
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: That's stuff is very difficult, just a game plan for

1051
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: and if anything, they kind of fly on the edge

1052
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: of the needle, right, So it can go horribly wrong,

1053
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: or you can have a fourth and nine situation where,

1054
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: quite frankly, maybe one of the more dangerous situations when

1055
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has to make a throw and he has

1056
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: nothing to lose. I watched I played like ten times

1057
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: this morning. Still don't have an answer for you. No,

1058
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: if there's green grass that Tyreek Hill can get to

1059
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 1: before somebody else. And Patrick Mahomes has some slot, whether

1060
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: it's a ninety degree slot straight over his head or

1061
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: coming straight from his hip, if there's a way to

1062
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: get it to him, he can get it there. It's

1063
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: always going to be low percentage, but when you can't

1064
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: stop it, you just can't stop it. It's talking to

1065
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: some of these guys in the locker room, and think

1066
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: about these Thursday night games, especially for the road team.

1067
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: It's an uphill battle. You gotta get on a plane,

1068
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: you gotta get rest, you gotta prepare. The thing about

1069
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: this Chargers team, though, Patrick, is they're six and oh

1070
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: when they get on a plane. This year, they're undefeated

1071
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: outside La County. Their only roads came to the Rams

1072
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: at the Collie seem so they've done it. Uh, they

1073
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: have him beaten the Chiefs. They've lost nice straight to

1074
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. But this is a spot that I don't

1075
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: think it's too big for this group. And you can

1076
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: see it on Sunday night looking back against pitt Pittsburgh game.

1077
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: Great example, just a resilient team that at any point

1078
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: people from the outside, you know, Chargers down the stretch.

1079
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Here we go again. Twenty three seven at the half.

1080
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: It's but they just they just did it. Justin Jackson

1081
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: played great in that game. People looking forward to seeing

1082
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: what he can do, depending on Melvin's availability for Thursday,

1083
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: but they're they're not afraid, they're not afraid of the moment,

1084
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: and they're definitely not afraid of this Chief's team. And honestly,

1085
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: talking to Derwin right off the bat, obviously he's a

1086
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: young guy. He's an exuberant guy, but just fired up

1087
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: for an opportunity to get play. He doesn't it rookie though,

1088
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: and that's the thing. He's got this he's got this

1089
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: alpha mentality that you know. Sunday was kind of an

1090
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: introduction to the nation of these Chargers. Y'all know who

1091
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: Antotio Gates is and Philip Rivers, right, but he didn't

1092
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: know Drwin James necessarily, Desmond King talked about Justin Jackson.

1093
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: Justin Jackson hadn't done that all year because he hadn't

1094
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: had to. But he comes in in a big spot.

1095
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: So it's neat for I think, just being on the

1096
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: inside here and then seeing these guys catch the eye

1097
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: of of people rounding the league, and it's about time. Honestly,

1098
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: it's about time because this this team has the talent

1099
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: and they've they've got the opportunity and to some extent,

1100
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: especially from my point of view, UM, we tend to

1101
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: focus on names sometimes and the franchise, especially after the move. Um,

1102
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: if the wins aren't there, there there wasn't there wasn't

1103
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: that that time, that type of focus. And you see,

1104
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: and that's why the pairing with Derwin just made so

1105
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: much sense to me. It's because you have a franchise

1106
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: that has had all this success and has all this

1107
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: opportunity in front of it this year and it was

1108
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: kind of an afterthought and then you had a who

1109
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: was clearly one of the top ten players in the draft. Yeah,

1110
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: and they just kind of met, whether it's fortune or fate,

1111
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: and somehow he falls to this team and the team

1112
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: goes on this run that is this twenty eighteen season,

1113
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's perfect. I think the way

1114
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: that that that matched up is perfect. And you get

1115
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: this this guy who can play and edge safety, which

1116
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: isn't like a physician that maybe didn't exist. A couple

1117
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: that with the return of Bosa too. You know, Bosa's

1118
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: had four sacks in his first four games back. But

1119
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, I think once we see Bosa

1120
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: hit his full potential this year, I mean to keep away.

1121
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 1: This guy didn't play football for I think thirteen fourteen weeks.

1122
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: So you get Bosa ramped up. He had Ingraham ramped up.

1123
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: I tell you, Durwin maybe the third best pass restaurant

1124
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: the team. And that's something that this Chiefs team perhaps

1125
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have to deal with. So often teams are game

1126
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: planning for them. But when you have Bosa coming back

1127
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: for his week, yeah, this will be this game five

1128
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: and Derwin's opportunity to do every different thing that he

1129
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: does to an extent that not you can have what

1130
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: will coming off the edge. And he's a good football player,

1131
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: he's not He's not Derwin physically, he can't do the

1132
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: things that that Derwin can do, and so they have

1133
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: to game plan perhaps more then this Chargers team has

1134
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: to plan for one of the best offenses that we've

1135
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: seen in the past ten fifteen years in the National

1136
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: Football League. And so it's it's honestly, I feel more

1137
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs to do what they need to do

1138
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: to get this win, even though it's on at home,

1139
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: and even though it's on a short week. Yeah, this

1140
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: this week will dictate a lot, you know, because if

1141
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs win this game, they're gonna win Navcy West.

1142
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: If the Chargers win, you got a shot to run

1143
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: the table and perhaps get a buy. So this this

1144
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: week is important on so many different levels. Um, just

1145
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: from kind of a thirty thousand foot view, your perspective

1146
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: of the AFC this year has been wacky. We saw

1147
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: some crazy games on Sunday. How do you see this

1148
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: this AFC really just the NFL in general. Man, it's

1149
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: been It's been a year. Like I think we say

1150
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: this every year, but there's just been so many surprises

1151
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: and coming into the season, it felt like, especially towards

1152
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: the end of the playoffs last year, there was an

1153
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: AFC NFC imbalanced there that there were some a top

1154
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: heavy situation in the NFC that I feel the ascension

1155
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: of this Chargers team has helped balance that out a

1156
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: little bit. Um, especially considering what happened to Pittsburgh yesterday.

1157
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can trust that Steelers team,

1158
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: that North is up. I mean, Cleveland's even mathematically in

1159
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: the mix right now, you know, which start to believe

1160
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 1: and so it's the wild card gets crazy. I'm sure

1161
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens m able to come back, especially after that

1162
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: tough loss and then seeing that the Pittsburgh lost. You know,

1163
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: that certainly helps their motivation coming up towards the end.

1164
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: But I think the imbalance is gone and the idea

1165
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 1: that this is just another Patriots coronation. I finally think

1166
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: that most people are done with that idea, and I

1167
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: honestly I haven't believed it in some time, but I

1168
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: just don't see an easy run of New England even

1169
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,479
Speaker 1: to get to the championship game. You know this better

1170
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: than anybody because it's such a week to week league.

1171
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: You know, we're crowning the Rams Super Bowl champions a

1172
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: week nine, then all of a sudden is the Saints.

1173
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the Saints lose the Cowboys.

1174
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, Jared Golf goes into cold.

1175
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: The Rams only score six points against the Bears. I

1176
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: don't think anybody knows now. I mean, we sit here

1177
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: almost in mid December. We're still at a loss for

1178
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: what's going to happen in January. Yeah, And it's and

1179
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: there's so much variance in that that even after the

1180
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: whenever it does happen, all right, we're gonna have a

1181
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: champion this twenty eighteen season. We're gonna take that and

1182
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna say, oh, well, this is this was destined

1183
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: to be the outcome the whole time. It won't be. Well,

1184
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to two or three plays and

1185
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: who makes them, and it's it's the name of the game.

1186
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: We have to decide after our Chiefs Rams game that well,

1187
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: this is football now. Yeah, every game is gonna be

1188
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: fifty fifty four to fifty one and fifteen six comes right,

1189
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: and so defense isn't dead. Um, your your favorite contender

1190
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: isn't dead. Uh, it's gonna come down to two wacky moments.

1191
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Flacco hits Jacoby Jones, you know Julio

1192
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: can't find the ball in the end zone. It's it's

1193
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna be just those moments and what team can capitalize

1194
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: and make plays in those moments. And there's no way

1195
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: to know, either before or after the fact. And that's

1196
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: what makes our league great. A year ago, I think

1197
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: it was Carson Wentz goes down against the Rams and

1198
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: guess what the Eagles were done. It was a rap

1199
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: for the because Nick I would have been the first

1200
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: Plason to tell you, yeah, Dick Foles, are you getting

1201
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Nick Foles? Last two weeks to twenty seventeen, Nick didn't

1202
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: look like the super boy VP. No, he certainly didn't,

1203
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: and he has it since. But you know, one moment

1204
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: here time and that's it, that's all it takes. You're

1205
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: one shining moment Nick Foles. He's he's winning a super Bowl,

1206
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: He's he's going to Disney World. And it doesn't make

1207
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: any sense, but that's that's sports. Yeah, and it shouldn't

1208
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: make any sense, and I love that we can celebrate,

1209
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: um that it doesn't, but more often than not, the

1210
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: better teams are going to make plays. And uh and

1211
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hopeful that we won't have a situation where

1212
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 1: an MVP candidate goes down late of this season. We're

1213
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: able to see how this season ends with with everybody

1214
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: on the field, especially especially Melvin Gordon, everything that he

1215
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: means to this Chargers team. And that's something that uh

1216
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: Mike Pouncey said today. You know, it's obvious, there's there's

1217
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: there's no replacing what Melvin does. And the numbers just

1218
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: jump off the page, one hundred and thirty seven yards

1219
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: with Melvin in the backfield, yeah, and seventy two without him.

1220
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: It's a different ball game. You know what it does,

1221
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: pet It makes Eckler better. You know, Eckler was outstanding

1222
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Bankers that that first quarter, I think

1223
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: nine seconds into the second quarter at eighty two total

1224
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. But they couldn't get anything sustained

1225
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: after that. So it just it shows how important And

1226
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that that Pittsburgh game. Let's say these

1227
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: guys do meet again in January, it could be a

1228
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: totally different ball game with Melvin Gordon setting the tone,

1229
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: controlling the clock, controlling the offense early. Yeah, And that's

1230
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: because in this league there's so many gifted players, and

1231
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: somebody get gifted play callers. But if you have something

1232
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: that they don't, you have an advantage. Yeah, if you

1233
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: can do something that they can't do. And when you

1234
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: have players that can do those things, it's always gonna help.

1235
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: No matter how the results go, no matter how many,

1236
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: how much the numbers look like, oh well, you know,

1237
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter because Pittsburgh, you know, for most

1238
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: of the season they felt that way about Levy on Bell.

1239
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we're getting We're getting this production without him.

1240
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: But there's things that certain players do when they are

1241
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: able to raise the level of their game in big,

1242
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: big situations and open things up for teammates that you

1243
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: just you can't discount talent. You can never discount talent.

1244
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: It always shows up at the end, right they You

1245
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: may be able to get buy for a week or

1246
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: two or three, but when you need him to most,

1247
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: that's when it shows up. So I agree with that.

1248
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: I think Melvin's he's vital to this team. Whether or

1249
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: not he goes Thursday, we'll see what happens. But Patrick,

1250
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: get you out here on this Who are you watching

1251
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: on Thursday? What do you think is going to decide

1252
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: this game against the Chiefs? Melvin Ingram and Joey bosa Um.

1253
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: I saw so many movements because there's with games going,

1254
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, you get tempted to watch red Zone. But

1255
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm just watching this Ravens defense take on Patrick Mahomes

1256
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: in company, and I saw Matthew Judon and sometimes Weddell

1257
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: coming off the edge and I don't know whatever sizzles

1258
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: uh nutrition plan is, sign me up. It looks like

1259
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: he's twenty five give it to her. I know he's

1260
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: probably frustrated because the twenty eight year old Terrell Sugs

1261
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: probably has three and a half sacks in that game

1262
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: and they win. But my homes was able to get away.

1263
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: But if if Bosa and Ingram uh can get in,

1264
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: if they can get home, if they can if they

1265
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: can just bother him, just limit his opportunity, then I

1266
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: think it forces Andy Reid in company uh and be

1267
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: animated to call a different game, perhaps the game that

1268
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: they don't want to call. And and that's and that's

1269
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: how you do it. And then on the other side, Uh,

1270
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: Philip's going to be Philip. You know, Philip is going

1271
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: to make the plays that that this Chargers team needs

1272
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: to to move the ball and getting the end zone.

1273
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: UH pres him a few times. But so I feel

1274
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: like you can count on that, whether Melvin's back, whether

1275
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: Austin's back, they had to balance in the passing game

1276
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: to make that happen to him. Keenan Allen five touchdowns

1277
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: his last five games. But it's not just him. You

1278
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: got you got Tyrell and Mike Williams. Even the tight

1279
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: ends when you need to play eighty five can make

1280
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: it still and they can they can hit you in

1281
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: every different way, and being able to have those options,

1282
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: especially people might look at the numbers in the way

1283
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 1: it breaks down, it's old. Travis Benjamin doesn't provide this.

1284
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: He absolutely it's a crucial every single play, Yeah, every

1285
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: single play. And so you don't know if Orlando Scandrick

1286
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: is going to be on the field in that situation

1287
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: five or six plays? Can can the Chiefs afford to

1288
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: do that? Even with that pass rush? And so I

1289
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: believe in this Chargers offense, and I think if Bosa

1290
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: and Ingram are able to get home two or three times,

1291
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: then that changes the way that this game goes. It's

1292
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a treatment. It's also on NFL Network in Fox.

1293
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybone, appreciate the time, my man, thanks for having me. Huh.

1294
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: All right, as we roll on here on Chargers Weekly,

1295
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: very please be joined by Joe Ready associated Press Joe

1296
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: Chargers with a short week. Let's rewind though to the

1297
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: Bengals game twenty six, twenty one. What did you see

1298
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: from this Chargers team in a game that they were

1299
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: probably supposed to win. Yeah, I think Chris was mainly

1300
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: I think mentally was more important. Than anything. You're coming

1301
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: off an emotional win at Pittsburgh, you got Kansas City

1302
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: in four days. This was the ultimate and trap games

1303
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati team that's vulnerable, but a quarterback enough

1304
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: athleticism that you didn't know. It's pretty impressed with Driskol,

1305
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Yeah, and I think he

1306
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: showed a second half of the Cleveland game what he

1307
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: could do athleticism. But in Denver, with those ends in

1308
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: that line, they really were able to compact things on them.

1309
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: But they stuck to the run, which was a stable

1310
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: for Marvin's earlier years, especially with Mix And I think

1311
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: that was twenty five or more carries by a Bengals

1312
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: back for the first time in two years. And now

1313
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: you use to be with Marvin would have those six

1314
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: seven times a year. So they got back to basics,

1315
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: kept it close and had a shot at the end.

1316
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: And you know, the replay reversal loom large, but in

1317
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: a game that you had to get, they got it

1318
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: and all win as a win and they all count

1319
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: the same. Absolutely. The win in Pittsburgh counts the same

1320
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: as the win against the Cincinnati Bengals. I think one

1321
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: of the things for the Chargers that they're gonna have

1322
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: to clean up a little bit. The Bengals had great

1323
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: field position, especially at a second quarter. You start in

1324
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: Chargers territory, the offense was backed up, you know, inside

1325
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: the five yard line for that second quarter. It felt

1326
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: like the entire second quarter. So it's just one of

1327
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: those things where if the office can get going a

1328
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: little bit. The field position game I think is gonna

1329
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: be big in Kansas City. Yeah, huge, especially with that

1330
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: stadium night game to win. I think we rarely seen

1331
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: a Chargers team though, where to field position after those

1332
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: first two drives, four times we're inside to seventeen, three

1333
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: times we're inside to ten. Yeah, we normally don't see

1334
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: that from this team or in a game. And Kevin

1335
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: Hubert is a great punter. I had a chance to

1336
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: see him for five years and what he can do

1337
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: on inside twenty punts and inside ten and especially what

1338
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: Darren Simmons can do as far as those directional punts.

1339
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: So you know, the Bengals did their job on that

1340
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: and played a field position game and had a shot.

1341
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: I think it'll be different against Kansas City because I

1342
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: think this may be more of a shootout game where

1343
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: average field position will probably be to twenty five to

1344
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: thirty this game on Thursday night. These Thursday night games

1345
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: are very strange, especially for the road team. It's it's

1346
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: hard for both teams to get ready for a Thursday

1347
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: night game. More of an onis on the road team

1348
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: to get prepared, to get rest then to get on

1349
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: a flight. For the Chargers, obviously we know the Chiefs

1350
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: have had their number. What do you think the biggest

1351
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: key is for the Chargers going into Arrowhead Thursday night.

1352
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: I think the fact they got Joey Bosa back, that'll

1353
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: up the pass for a big deal. But also, I

1354
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: mean hacked that Baltimore game. We saw. We saw Patrick

1355
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes come up with new arm angles that didn't exist. Yes,

1356
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: I mean you probably got physicists and labs wondering what

1357
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: angle the fourth and nine Joe to Tyreek Hill. I've

1358
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. Really, the Chiefs had no

1359
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: business winning that football game. That fourth and nine gave

1360
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: them hope. Yeah, that get that gave him to win.

1361
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: And I mean that's the thing Kareem Hunt isn't isn't

1362
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: there anymore? But I think with what where can do

1363
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: being the solid back moving the chains, and he's still

1364
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: got a count for Tyreek Hill, and that Tyreek Hill

1365
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: burned this team in the Week one meeting. Even a

1366
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: hurt Tyreek Hill, who was limping at the end of

1367
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: the game, seemed to be the fastest player in the

1368
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: NFL's still Tyree Kill. You mentioned him. The Chargers got

1369
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: a heavy dose of Tyree Hill in the first game

1370
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: the punt returns. Obviously, Donnie Jones is now the punter.

1371
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: Drew Caser was a punter at that time. I think

1372
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: the containment of Tyreek Hill is so important. But even

1373
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: if you take him out of the equation, Joe, these guys,

1374
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have found ways to just put in different

1375
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: pieces and it all works. I mean, even without Kareem Hunt.

1376
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: You put in Spencer Ware, you put in Damian Williams.

1377
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: Those guys come in and play a big role. Spencer

1378
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 1: Ware had a good game on the ground on Sunday,

1379
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: and Eric Barry might play in this game from what

1380
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: I've heard. And you know, this team has done a

1381
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: very good job over to years of containing Travis Kelsey.

1382
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: They have, But where is the game where Travis Kelsey

1383
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: is going to loom as a factor and explode on

1384
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: these guys like he has on other teams. And I mean,

1385
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: we all know Arra had his probably the loudest stadium

1386
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL to play primetime game Thursday night playoff

1387
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: seating the division. It's gonna be interesting. But I also

1388
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: think what the Chiefs. They're two losses. It's kind of

1389
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: like what the Rams now when they face competitive or

1390
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 1: even defenses, how can they do? And I think Baltimore

1391
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: solved Mahomes a little bit. Rams definitely did in that

1392
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: Monday night game in New England. Did so? Now with

1393
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,879
Speaker 1: Bosa and the upgrade, you know, and what the Chargers

1394
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: have been able to do on defense, does that turn

1395
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: the tide a little bit? It's possible. And you look

1396
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: at that Ravens defense, they hit Mahomes fifteen times. Okay,

1397
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: So we talked about Joey Bosa coming back. He has

1398
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: four sacks and his four games back. Not only Bosa though,

1399
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: you know you're looking at Ingram, You're looking that interior

1400
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: pass rush, a guy like Isaac Rochelle who stepped in

1401
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: when Bosa was out. Bilin had a great Gamelon had

1402
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: a great game that that really game saving sack on

1403
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: the two point conversion attempt, So it's not just Bosa

1404
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: and Ingram even Derwin coming off the edge. And I

1405
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: think you mentioned Travis Kelsey, Joe. The matchup that I'm

1406
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: looking at is Travis Kelsey versus potentially Derwin James. Yeah. Absolutely,

1407
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: And you know what can Kansas City's other receivers do,

1408
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: and you know, defensively because Mike Williams had a good

1409
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: game against Kansas City in the first game, Keenan went

1410
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: off in the first game. And then remember when we

1411
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 1: were all wondering when Keenan Allen was going to reach

1412
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 1: the end zone again after the Kansas Stream games. Now, funny,

1413
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: how that funny how that all turns around. But I

1414
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 1: also think the underestimated thing in this game special teams.

1415
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: Chargers finally have a kicker, and with Desmond King what

1416
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: he's been able to do in the return game, that

1417
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: can help turn the tide and field position a little

1418
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: bit too. Yeah. Michael Badgley, of course, And this is

1419
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: another thing that's different, a different wrinkle from the first week.

1420
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: Desmond King wasn't back there on kicking punt returns. Michael

1421
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: Badgley wasn't on the field either. So to have your

1422
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: special team shored up, and you talk about Michael Badgley

1423
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: what he's been able to do. I think he's twenty

1424
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: of twenty one on extra points, fourteen to fifteen on

1425
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 1: field goals. This was a game they needed all of

1426
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: those points. You know, we talked about the fifty nine yarder,

1427
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: the forty five yard at the end was probably more

1428
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: important because then Jeff Dress was going to go to

1429
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: the length and score touchdown and win a game. Yeah,

1430
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: and you know with it kind of reminded me of

1431
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: a similar Bengals Chargers games of the past. You know

1432
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be closed. You know it's gonna come down

1433
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: to a couple of plays. You know, Marvin gambled a

1434
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: couple of times it went against them in the third

1435
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: quarter that led to a Chargers field goal by going

1436
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: forward for fourth than one early. But that's a thing

1437
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: these teams now rarely play, but it seems like every

1438
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: time they do it's an in arresting matchup, no no doubt. Joe,

1439
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: we were talking about Kansas City. You know, just be

1440
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: a lot of Chargers fans and I think they make

1441
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: this trip. Restaurants. You and Eric Williams were very kind

1442
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: enough to give me some suggestions for Chargers fans going

1443
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: to Kansas City. I know you've been there a few times.

1444
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: Let me know. I mean Jack's staffs high end barbecue,

1445
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: but it's near the downtown hotels and in the Power

1446
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 1: Park area where the Sporting Casey's Stadium is and everything,

1447
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: and down near to Sprint Center, Oklahoma. Joe's very well known,

1448
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: but that's out more toward Kansas the former gas station,

1449
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: but gates with there. There are a chain, but a

1450
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,799
Speaker 1: very well known chain. I think Eric mentioned Q thirty nine,

1451
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: which is very good too. There's no shortage, right right, yeah,

1452
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean very good barbecue. And the thing about Kansas

1453
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: City barbecue to me is Carolina, you know, kind of

1454
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: with the vinegary type sauces. Texas maybe a little smoky

1455
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: or in terms of brisk at Kansas City to me

1456
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: has everything, and you know, the sauces are kind of

1457
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: middle of the road, but just very solid and good.

1458
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: Que I love it. I love it, Joe. Before we

1459
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: get you out of here, just the landscape of the AFC. Now,

1460
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: we saw some wild games in week fourteen. The Miami

1461
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: Miracle is that what they're calling it now. The Patriots

1462
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: lose to the Dolphins on that crazy play at the

1463
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: end of the game. The Steelers, who the Chargers beat

1464
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: last week, lost to the Raiders. Obviously, that Chiefs Ravens

1465
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: game was a classic. How do you see the Chargers

1466
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: fitting in here? The Texans lost to the Colts. How

1467
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: do you see the Chargers fitting into this AFC as

1468
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: we enter Week fifteen. I think we'll know a lot

1469
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: more at the end of Week fifteen as to where

1470
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: they may be. I mean, a twelve and four team

1471
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: being the first wild card just seems unfathomable, like a

1472
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: reseat situation would be needed, you know, yeah, where, Yeah,

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01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it very likely could happen. But I think

1474
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: you were hoping that Baltimore could pull it out yesterday

1475
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: and truly make this game for the division. But if

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01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: the Chargers can win, Chiefs got to go to Seattle

1477
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: the following week, and Seattle's very much in it, which

1478
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna which that's gonna be a slugfest. Chargers have Baltimore.

1479
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot to play for on that Saturday,

1480
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: and then kind of the all Division Sunday the last

1481
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: week of the season. But I mean that sixth wild

1482
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 1: card is going to be very interesting. You've got you

1483
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 1: got Baltimore, India is still very much alive, Tennessee Miami.

1484
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: And I mean if Cleveland wins out with the matchups

1485
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: the last three weeks of this season, if everybody else

1486
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: went one and two, Cleveland could get in. Could you imagine,

1487
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: I mean, with Greg Williams and winning out. I mean

1488
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: they got Denver, then hosts Cincinnati and then Pittsburgh that

1489
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: last week of the year. It's it's not daunting for

1490
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: them for them to do that. So you know, the

1491
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: DFC North very much up for grabs. I think the

1492
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: East is basically New England's South. I know Indie's still

1493
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: got shot. I think Houston's got a pretty good hold

1494
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 1: on that. And I think, well we'll have a pretty

1495
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: good idea about the West after Sunday, December football Man,

1496
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: nothing better, Joe ready the AP, Thanks so much, buddy,

1497
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, guys before we get to Eric Williams,

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01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,719
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Speaker 1: of the NFL. All right, the spotlight gets even bigger

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers Thursday night against Kansas City Chiefs. Now

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: joining me, Eric Williams, ESPN, Eric, Long time since you've

1513
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: been on the podcast, my friend. I know you've been

1514
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: keeping me off, Chris. What's the deal man, it's like

1515
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: three months. It's not so much keeping you, it's saving

1516
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: you for the biggest moments in the season. I like

1517
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: to look at it that way. Feel better about that.

1518
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: Now it's a big spot man. Listen, this is this

1519
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: is a game that's gonna decide a lot for the

1520
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: Chargers moving forward. When it comes to the AFC West,

1521
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: the wildcard situation. First glance, what do you see here

1522
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 1: on Thursday night? Well, I mean, you know, I've written

1523
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: about this earlier this week. You know, the nine game

1524
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: losing streak that they have to the Chiefs and what

1525
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: are the factors you know, involved in that. It was great,

1526
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: a great breakdown on ESPN dot com. So I went

1527
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: back and looked the Chargers over this nine game span.

1528
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: They're minus fourteen turnover differential. She's only turned over four

1529
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: times and nine games against the Chargers over that stretch,

1530
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: so they've really kind of limited mistakes. It's incredible staff

1531
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: and forced the Chargers to make mistakes in terms of

1532
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: gaining possessions, so that's one thing that stuck out during

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: that stretch. The Chiefs of average one hundred and thirty

1534
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: six rushing yards of contest, so they've been able to

1535
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: control time of possession by running the football. So that's

1536
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 1: going to be something that I'll watch for. Along with

1537
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: those two things. The Chargers have average just over fifteen

1538
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: points a contest in those nine games, so they have

1539
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: middle score. So they have to flip the script. They

1540
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: have to get points, not field goals, but touchdowns when

1541
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: they're in the red zone. They have to take care

1542
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: of the ball. They have to take the ball away

1543
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: in order to gain some possessions. And then I think,

1544
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: not only do they have to stop the run, and

1545
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 1: we know Cream's not playing, they have to run the football.

1546
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see if they're able to

1547
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,759
Speaker 1: do that because they'll likely be without you know, Austin Ekeler,

1548
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon. We shall see, well, she'll see. I don't

1549
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: know if Melvin makes it back. If that's the case,

1550
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: you're going to rely on two rookies, Justin Jackson and

1551
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: Detre's Newsome to carry the load for you in terms

1552
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: of the running game, and so you don't an uphill

1553
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: task to be able to win. It's already an uphill

1554
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: task to try to win an Arrowhead anyway. It's the

1555
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: tough one of the toughest places to play in the league.

1556
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: I think, turnaround, a quick turnaround, and you're you know

1557
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,839
Speaker 1: a little bit hampered offensively in terms of your weapons.

1558
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned there's fifteen points a game the Chargers are

1559
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: averaging against the Chiefs. The Chiefs and the Chargers the

1560
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: only two teams in the NFL that have scored twenty

1561
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: points at every single game this season, which is interesting,

1562
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, so are we going to see a shootout

1563
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but one of the things that that

1564
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: struck me in coach Len's press conference on Monday, he

1565
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: didn't talk about the nine times. He talked about the

1566
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: three times that he's been head coach. So he's not

1567
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: looking back to, oh, we've lost to the Chiefs nine

1568
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: straight times. And really, if you want to go back,

1569
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: go back to Philip at the beginning of his career

1570
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: against Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, there have been stretches

1571
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: where he's owned them. So it's it's not like something

1572
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: that I think is in the heads of the Chargers

1573
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: per se. It's just they haven't been able to get

1574
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: it done against this team as a league. Yeah, I

1575
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: think that's fairs, particularly if you're if you're coached Lynn,

1576
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: because you weren't coaching those six times previous before you

1577
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: took over the team. And in two thousands there, when

1578
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: I had the twenty four three lead in the second

1579
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: half as you were there, I took a picture of

1580
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: the fans stream in the stadium leaving in the third

1581
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: quarter and I was like, hey, might want to come back.

1582
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: Actually came back to you know, forsover time and win

1583
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: that game. So yeah, I think I've been there at

1584
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: all of them, you know, in terms of losses, but

1585
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: you're riot, it is kind of the ones where Lynn

1586
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: has been coaching this team since twenty seventeen and and

1587
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: really just you know, can they overcome some of the

1588
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: mistakes that they've made in those previous games and just

1589
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: be consistent and can really just keep playing like they've

1590
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: been playing throughout the year. They've won a lot of

1591
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: close games. They've they've kind of you know, put themselves

1592
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: in position to win those games. Can they do that

1593
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: again on Thursday? Turnovers are going to be a big

1594
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,799
Speaker 1: deal in this and that's the thing with this twenty

1595
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: eighteen version of the Chargers away from Rocketfield, a step

1596
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: up center. In seven games, you've only turned it over

1597
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: four times. So I marvel at that because it's one

1598
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 1: of those things where Philip has done such a good

1599
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: job of taking care of the football under the lend administration.

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01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's really been a change for him.

1601
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: You know, before Lynn took over, he had a career

1602
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: worse what twenty one receptions. I think in twenty sixteen.

1603
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 1: I think he just has six interceptions this year, if

1604
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 1: if I'm correct, ten last year. So he's done a

1605
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: great job. But I think what's been cool about that

1606
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: is he's still making explosive plays. So it's not like

1607
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: he's not taking shots down the field, but I think

1608
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: he's being mindful of when he takes those shots where

1609
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: they're out in the field when he takes them. And

1610
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: then you have to give receivers credit. They're going out

1611
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: and making plays, and when they don't have a chance

1612
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: to catch football, they're now turning into defender and knocking

1613
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: the ball down. So it's really a combination of a

1614
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: lot of things that have led to them just doing

1615
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: a much better job of turning it over. And if

1616
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: you don't turn it over in the road, usually have

1617
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: a chance to win the game. I think protecting Philip

1618
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 1: two is going to be of the utmost importance. Chris

1619
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: Jones has nine sacks in nine games. Really yeah, he

1620
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: has a sack in each of his last nine games.

1621
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: And we don't talk about the Chiefs defense, right yeah. Wow,

1622
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: So we don't talk about the Chiefs all that much

1623
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: when it comes to defense, right, But Houston Joe, those

1624
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: guys can get after the quarterback and even though they

1625
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: give up a lot of points, the pressure up front,

1626
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: the offensive line of the Chargers is gonna be ready. Yeah,

1627
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: I think they're They're last in the league in terms

1628
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: of yards allowed, if I'm right. I used to cover

1629
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: loaf of Tutupo with the Seahawks. Allays say yards don't

1630
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: matter points due, Yeah, so those yards that you give

1631
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: up in between the twenties, they don't really show up

1632
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard if you're able to force field goals,

1633
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: as we've seen with this Chargers defensive team. With the

1634
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: Chargers kind of that ben but don't break philosophy. And

1635
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 1: while the Chiefs have given up a lot of yards,

1636
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: I think at times they've made critical plays when they've

1637
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: needed to make him You mentioned the nine sacks by Jones.

1638
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: I think Houston came up with a big play against

1639
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens strip start. So when they need to make

1640
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: plays defensively, they've kind of toughened up, bowed up and

1641
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: made plays. And I'll be interesting to see if they

1642
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,839
Speaker 1: can do the same thing against the Chargers. That's obviously

1643
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: one of the matchups you're gonna watch is that Chiefs

1644
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: defense against that Philip Rivers led offense. Philip has had

1645
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: his share of turnovers against the Chiefs. Again, we don't

1646
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: want to look all the way back in twenty fourteen.

1647
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters has gone Marcus Spears. He was a big problem.

1648
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: He was a big contributor to net but six intercessors

1649
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: for Philip last year against the Chiefs this year. Obviously

1650
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: a little better job of keeping keeping the ball and

1651
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: holding on to it, but on the road, got to

1652
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: take care of the football. You go back to week one,

1653
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: there's a lot of differences. Obviously, the running back situation

1654
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: on both sides could be different. The biggest I think

1655
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: for the Chargers is the return to Joey Bosa. Four

1656
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: sacks in his first four games back. Patrick Mahomes was

1657
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: hit fifteen times against the Baltimore Ravens. How much of

1658
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: an impact do you think Joey Bosa's just presence alone

1659
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: will make in this game. I think it's significant for

1660
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: a couple of different reasons. First of all, you're you're

1661
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: adding one of the best defensive players in the league

1662
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 1: to a defense that has been playing better as the

1663
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 1: league goes on. So now it's a matchup issue. They

1664
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: have to know where Joey Bosa is on the field

1665
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: at all the times, and because of that, Melvin Ingram

1666
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: Isaac Rochelle Darius file on they're going to get better

1667
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: opportunities because now they're trying to figure out how to

1668
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: pass protect on ninety nine. And then also coach Reid

1669
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: mentioned this on the conference call this week, ninety nine

1670
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: fifty four together on one side of the field and

1671
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: those guy's ability to run games. I looked at the

1672
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: stats in terms of how many times the Chargers are

1673
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: blitzing this year. It was twelve percent of the time

1674
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: they were rushing at least five guys without Joey, just

1675
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: six percent with Joey. So that lets you know that

1676
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: they're really rely on on the front four to create

1677
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: pressure and now they don't have to blitz as often.

1678
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: Early in the year we saw Durrhwin James being used

1679
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: more as a blitzer, very effective. But now if you

1680
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 1: have Joey, you feel like, okay, we can just create

1681
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: pressure with the front four play coverage, and I think

1682
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: that helps you maybe limit those explosive plays because the Chiefs,

1683
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: I think are number one in the league in terms

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01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 1: of creating its supposed to plays. Where do you see

1685
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: thirty three in this game? Do you see him in

1686
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: the box? Do you see him on Kelsey. Kelsey has

1687
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: been quiet against the Chargers as of late, but that

1688
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can't go off at a moment's notice.

1689
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: But I think where you put Derwen James could be

1690
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: very intriguing in this ball game. It's hard to predict. Yeah,

1691
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: I know. I think against the Rams he played back

1692
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 1: more often because they were so concerned about giving up

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01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: those explosive plays. But it seems like he's been more

1694
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: effective near the line of scrimmage, particularly in the run game,

1695
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, chasing down runs from the backside, and just

1696
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: his ability to get people down on the ground, you know,

1697
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: both in the run game. In the past game, I

1698
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play close to the line of scrimmage.

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01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he's back there

1700
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: playing deep safety because you're so concerned about Number ten.

1701
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, Number ten really hurt them in the first

1702
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: game in terms of his ability to create explosive plays.

1703
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: And you don't even a hobbled Number ten is the

1704
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: fastest guy in the NFL. Yeah, no doubt, and you

1705
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 1: don't want to let that guy to get going. So,

1706
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a game wrecker, So you're gonna have

1707
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: to figure out where he's on the field and you

1708
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: gotta get him down. He does special teams too, where

1709
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers need to flip the script on

1710
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,480
Speaker 1: special teams and they have to take it to the Chiefs.

1711
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: Right off the bat Tyree Kill had a ninety yard

1712
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: punt return for a touchdown. Really kind of took the

1713
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: air out of that game right from the beginning. J J.

1714
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: Jones had that fumble with Desmond King back there, kind

1715
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: of securing the special teams and what we've seen from

1716
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: Michael Badgie which we haven't seen around here, a kicker

1717
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: that can go four for four and really win that

1718
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: game for the Chargers fifty nine yard, but more importantly,

1719
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: I think that forty five yard or at the end

1720
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: that's gonna be vital here. Yeah, I mean the money Badger,

1721
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: But you know love it? Did you coin that? I

1722
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't coin it? A guy on Twitter? I gotta give

1723
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: him credit. I think his name is Alex. He's a

1724
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 1: guy that that suggests that it has card fire, and

1725
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,959
Speaker 1: as it should. It's a great nickname. I think Badsley

1726
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: likes it and he's lived up to the nicknames embraced

1727
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: him and only missed one field goal fifty nine yard

1728
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: or in his rookie season. That's pretty ridiculous to be

1729
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 1: able to say you have the franchise record now just

1730
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: in your rookie yard. And the way that came together

1731
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: Eric with the kick return for King, a pair of

1732
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: eleven yard receptions and then just that was it a

1733
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: offside and all sides put that together where you know,

1734
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: we were thinking, Nie, get to the half, sure, and

1735
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: you're able to get three points out of the deal.

1736
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: And I had seen him in pregame. I think he

1737
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: had made one from sixty two, so I wasn't surprised

1738
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: that he made it. And I guess the thing about

1739
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 1: that is Lynn, I mean faith in him that not

1740
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: only can he make it, but it won't get blocked.

1741
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: I mean, because you're you're concerned in that situation gets

1742
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: blocked and now it's seven points the other way. So

1743
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: that and then the kicks that you should make forty

1744
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: and under, you don't feel like he's gonna miss it.

1745
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: You just feel like he's gonna go there and automatic

1746
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: in this league, you know should be. And now you

1747
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 1: have that, and I think it's really kind of lessened

1748
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: the anxiety for Lynn and the rest of the team

1749
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: players mentioned it too. When they see Badgery go out

1750
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 1: there for a thirty eight yard or they're like, yeah,

1751
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: we know he's gonna make it. They have confidence in him.

1752
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: So that's been big. Desmond's been big because he's just

1753
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: a sure handed guy. As returner, you know that you're

1754
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: gonna get possession of the ball, which is number one.

1755
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: I remember he used to cover Mike Coleman in Seahawks.

1756
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: He didn't care if you got anything on the aren't

1757
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: return damn. He just wants catch the ball so he

1758
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: can get his offense on the field. And I think

1759
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 1: it's probably a similar scenario with Whiz. He just wants

1760
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: to get Philip rivers out there as they can get gone.

1761
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: If you get it first down, great, we'll take it.

1762
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: So I think that's been big as well. And then

1763
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: I think with Donnie, you're not getting the booming kicks,

1764
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: but he's an okay directional kicker. Yeah. I think he's

1765
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards net, so you're not giving up big returns.

1766
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: You might not get the fifth yarder, but the guy's

1767
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: not taking it back to the house, and that's big.

1768
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: That's the underrated layer in all of this. You can't

1769
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 1: let Tyreek Hill have any shot at returning up punt,

1770
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: get it out of bounce. Eric will get you out

1771
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: here on this what's gonna decide this game? I think

1772
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a healthy dose of Justin Jackson regardless.

1773
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: And this is a kid who showed up when the

1774
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: lights were brightest in the second half of that game

1775
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Steelers. He doesn't have a lot of

1776
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: carries in the NFL, but he averaged two hundred and

1777
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: eighty five carries at Northwestern. It could be a big

1778
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: spot for him. And he's playing cold weather, so he's

1779
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 1: used to that. That's a great point helps as well.

1780
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be running the football and

1781
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: controlling time of possession because you have two explosive offenses

1782
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: and you want to be able to play keepaway a

1783
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: little bit with either Mahomes or Rivers. So running the

1784
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: football and then turnovers, can you create a couple extra

1785
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: possessions if you're the Chargers and take a couple of

1786
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: possessions away from that explosive offense. We've kind of seen it,

1787
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Rams go to Chicago, explosive offense, they're

1788
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: playing cold weather. The Bears are able to hold them

1789
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: down a little bit. Stop the run. Raven similar you know,

1790
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: they go and they were able to kind of hold

1791
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: them down a little bit because they can stop the run,

1792
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: and they're able to kind of make the game a

1793
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: little bit ugly because of their defense. And so I

1794
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be what the Chargers are gonna need

1795
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 1: to do in terms of their defense. Stop the run,

1796
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: get off the field, get the ball to your offense,

1797
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: and then maybe steal a turnover or two in a

1798
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: critical situation late in the game, so you can you

1799
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: can get a victory for the first time in ten

1800
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: games against this team. Yeah, it's a big one. Barbecue too.

1801
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: What do we got, I asked? I asked Joe about it.

1802
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: What's your go to? Well? I like Oklahoma Joe's, And

1803
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: usually when I get off the plane in the first trip,

1804
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 1: I don't even go to my hotel, straight to Okloma.

1805
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 1: Chiller go to Oklahoma one of those two places I'm

1806
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: going to because that's what I want when I go

1807
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: to Kansas City. So those are my go to is

1808
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Joe's or Arthur Bryant's Jack Stack Gates. You really

1809
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: can't go wrong. We're gonna go to a new place

1810
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Q thirty nine and check that out. But um, you

1811
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: definitely have to get some barbecue and you go to Casey.

1812
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 1: That's it's a must, right. We were just talking about it.

1813
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: And you don't mind these Thursday night games. You don't

1814
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 1: mind the weekend, you don't mind the extended by for

1815
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: for week sixteen. Much like the players, I like the

1816
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 1: days you get off on the back end. So I'm

1817
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: okay with a Thursday night game every once in a

1818
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: while sprinkling in. And I think at this point of

1819
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: the season two players could use a little extra time

1820
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: and I think they're probably will welcome that that Friday, Saturday,

1821
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: Sunday just sitting around and watching football. Eric Williams with

1822
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: a return to Chargers Weekly coming strong. I tell you

1823
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 1: we save you for the most critical games onto slate. Man,

1824
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. I appreciate it well. Hopefullyast not

1825
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: another three months before you talk. And that's gonna do it.

1826
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,879
Speaker 1: A big thanks to Eric Williams, Joe Ready, Patrick Claybon,

1827
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen, Colleen Wolf and Joe Buck for joining me,

1828
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: and of course thanks to you all for listening. Don't

1829
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: forget if you like what you hear, be sure to

1830
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: give us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Please

1831
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: help spread the word. Enjoy the game, and until next time,

1832
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hayry.