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Speaker 1: Origion Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. Paul's gonna have to leave

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Speaker 1: early because he's moons. Yeah, he's going on with his

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Speaker 1: other show. So for the first hour he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: going head to head with Catch twenty two. So if

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Speaker 1: no one's listening, Paul, you'll know why I will. I'd

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Speaker 1: made my picks. I pick. I thought you said you

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Speaker 1: had a major pick just within that short Wow. Just

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Speaker 1: shows you the thought we put into this with the

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Speaker 1: lead that I have. I didn't really see the need. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's no particular reason, but there are several ways. That's

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Speaker 1: not what he said. He said no particular reason, right,

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Speaker 1: because they're already you're reading all three teams heavy heavy,

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Speaker 1: heavy underdogs, but they were not heavy underdogs playing the

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Speaker 1: come on, but they weren't heavy underdogs against the common

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Speaker 1: I don't think Kansas City's gonna unplode. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are going to unplode. Why so, why do

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Speaker 1: you think Buffalo. Well because of red Ass. This is

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered fueled by Duncan. Thanks Matt, Um you could

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Speaker 1: have edited that one out. Yeah, but anyway, Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a strange day here and Patriots Unfiltered in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and because of what happened last night. Um, I

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Speaker 1: wish I could come on air and say, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we heard themar's doing, but we haven't. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: the Bills game coming up. We don't know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, not the time to talk about

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about the game that we had

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Speaker 1: against the Bengals. It's weird, you know, because like here

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Speaker 1: It's it's just it's hard. I think everybody's going through

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the Patriots, and to have that all play

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Speaker 1: what I mean, It's just like like I'm gonna just

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Speaker 1: demolish you. Wait a minute, it's somebody I forget. A

427
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Speaker 1: former player tweeted out I'm not sure might have been

428
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Speaker 1: Ryan Clark, but just said, like the next snap of

429
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Speaker 1: football is going to be the hardest one. It is

430
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Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, and you know I agree with that,

431
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: and once you get going, you'll get back into it.

432
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Speaker 1: But I mean it's you know, even just a movie

433
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Speaker 1: talking about it here, and Paul was mentioned in you know,

434
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Speaker 1: an incident in baseball where this kind of thing, right,

435
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Speaker 1: you know, can happen, and you know, even me with

436
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: a kid in little league, it's you know, I think

437
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: it just affects everybody. It's bigger than football. It's not

438
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: just a football you know unique thing. These are, you know,

439
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: kind of injuries and things that can happen. It's just

440
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: about any sports, right circumciance. With the amount of sports

441
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 1: that are played in the United States, from youth all

442
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 1: the way to pro the amazing thing is this doesn't

443
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: happen more often. Yeah, I mean it does happen. Literally

444
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Speaker 1: lacrosse a Kidden Cornell died with a direct hit from

445
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Speaker 1: a ball to his chest. You know, it happens. But

446
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: like with all the sports we play in this country,

447
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: like the fact that it doesn't happen more often. Were

448
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: you ever scared with your tennis fourhand that you were

449
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Speaker 1: gonna take well, other people were, yeah, my curse coming out.

450
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Speaker 1: But uh no, But like you know, so like like

451
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, like what, like I'm sure there's counseling

452
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: that's available to players and everything like that, but you know,

453
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Speaker 1: it's important that they understand that, like this isn't just

454
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Speaker 1: because of football. This is because of you know, we're

455
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Speaker 1: human beings and we're not meant to take direct hits.

456
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Speaker 1: And like Paul, you know you would say and you

457
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Speaker 1: know your wife is a nurse at MGAU and asked general,

458
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Speaker 1: and like these happen because like the impact comes at

459
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Speaker 1: this like it's a blunt force that exactly the moment

460
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Speaker 1: when something's firing inside and it just it's like an

461
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Speaker 1: electrical short circuit. And it does happen in Little league baseball.

462
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Speaker 1: And I won't say like every year, but like you

463
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Speaker 1: hear about it every every couple of years as a

464
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Speaker 1: port Like eleven year old kid takes a fastball in

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Speaker 1: the chest and they have less protection at the worst time.

466
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Speaker 1: They don't have the muscle protection that you know in

467
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Speaker 1: you know, Mike and I were talking about it. This

468
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Speaker 1: is why all little league fields now are equipped with

469
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Speaker 1: the you know, the devices to to see if you know,

470
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Speaker 1: you can prevent a tragedy when it does happen, because

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Speaker 1: it can happen. Yeah, and you talked about lacrosse. It

472
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Speaker 1: happens too often, you know. But I know this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be this is gonna be a tough week for football.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's not anybody on anybody's importance you

475
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Speaker 1: know right now, of any of any importance right now.

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Speaker 1: But you watch you watch how the next few days, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll be the attack on football again, right, you know,

478
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: so like like you said, the next snap is going

479
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Speaker 1: to be the toughest one for whoever is involved. That's

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Speaker 1: you know, that's absolutely true, you know, especially with it,

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Speaker 1: it just looked like such a routine play, Like you

482
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Speaker 1: have to watch it over and be like, wait, what

483
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Speaker 1: even happened? And it's just it was it was It's

484
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Speaker 1: a freak thing. You know. It wasn't like a concussion

485
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Speaker 1: where oh yeah you got hit in the head or

486
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Speaker 1: its head hit the ground or whiplash or whatever. It

487
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Speaker 1: was just a freak, you know, um getting hit by

488
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Speaker 1: lightning type of thing. You know. So can I can

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Speaker 1: I shine a little positive light on Kyle Dugger? I

490
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Speaker 1: don't know, I just want to shift gears maybe a

491
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Speaker 1: little bit, all right. I just was feeling, you know,

492
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Speaker 1: third touchdown this year, and you know, I know I've

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Speaker 1: been up and down on him a little bit this

494
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Speaker 1: year with some of the inconsistencies and coverage, But um,

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Speaker 1: I just I thought it was interesting Jude On saying

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to give Dugger a blank check, and

497
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, that's the last thing the

498
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Speaker 1: Patriots want to hear right now. But you know, I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Paul was talking about this a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: Just I think, you know, you're starting to see some

501
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Speaker 1: young players come on a little bit here, and you know,

502
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Speaker 1: we talked about free agency, and you know, is that

503
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I part of me just wants to

504
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Speaker 1: like reinvest in our own guys. And I just I'm

505
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Speaker 1: kind of getting sick. As much as I've been a

506
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Speaker 1: little bit on I don't want to say on the fence,

507
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Speaker 1: but a little bit critical of of Dugger's overall game,

508
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Speaker 1: it makes me sick to think about letting a player

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Speaker 1: like that get away again, you know, and and that's

510
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Speaker 1: and those are the things like and you know, j

511
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Speaker 1: not quite the same for me, Like I feel like

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Speaker 1: he's still a very specific third down kind of role,

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Speaker 1: which you know, generally you could probably find from you know,

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Speaker 1: and Andre Carter or is you know you got to

515
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Speaker 1: get a vent in for one year, Chris Long those

516
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Speaker 1: kind of guys. But you know, I just I just

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Speaker 1: wonder overall the feeling of these drafts haven't been good enough.

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Speaker 1: Like a way that you can kind of force that

519
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: issue is by resigning the players. They gotta pay somebody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you spent a second round pick on duggerum

521
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Speaker 1: and he's panned out like, Okay, that was a good pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's what you know the notebook that

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Speaker 1: I posted, but I don't know if it's up yet, um,

524
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Speaker 1: but you know, for this morning, you know, there is

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Speaker 1: at least put the playoffs on the back burner and

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Speaker 1: whether or not you think that they they're worthy or

527
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Speaker 1: you know, that's irrelevant. You know, you went from having

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Speaker 1: I think four draft classes in succession where I think

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Speaker 1: you got Damien Harris that's it. Now the last three

530
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Speaker 1: years again there might not be any Pro Bowl like

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Speaker 1: all pro you know, Hall of Fame type players, but

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Speaker 1: it's now dugger ouch when you in twenty and you know,

533
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Speaker 1: obviously the three guys from last year with mac barmore

534
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Speaker 1: and Stevenson and you know, we'll see about this year.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Marcus Jones is already playing a huge

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Speaker 1: role for you and we'll see about the rest of

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Speaker 1: the guys because there's been a lot of other guys

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Speaker 1: that have made contributions at least and you know, on

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Speaker 1: a short term basis. Yeah, you know, Marcus Jones has

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Speaker 1: been consistently a contributor. Now for the last three quarters

541
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Speaker 1: of the season, you know. So we'll see about Jack Jones,

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Speaker 1: we'll see about the two running backs, Kevin Harris and

543
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Speaker 1: Pierre Strong. If they can, they can be part of it.

544
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Speaker 1: But that's how you get out of this. Yeah, you

545
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: can't get out of it by spending two hundred and

546
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Speaker 1: seventy million guaranteed money in free agency, right right. The

547
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Speaker 1: only way you can get out of it just by

548
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Speaker 1: stacking draft classes. And I think they've had a you know,

549
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Speaker 1: three in a row now that I'm not telling you

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Speaker 1: that it's like the seventy four Steelers, but you've had

551
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Speaker 1: three in a row now that you've gotten contributors out

552
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Speaker 1: of ye. Tugger is an awesome player. I know that

553
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Speaker 1: he gets some flack for the man coverage stuff and

554
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Speaker 1: every once in a while he gets a little bit

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Speaker 1: loose in his zone, but the amount of hats that

556
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: they ask him to wear in this defense, he's the

557
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: most versatile player in the defense by far, and he

558
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: does all of them at at least a starting caliber level,

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00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: like not necessarily elite at everything. I think he still

560
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: has some stuff that he needs to work out in coverage,

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00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, some instinctual stuff in terms of man technique

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00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: and maybe reading out route combinations and things like that

563
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: in zone. But that takes time to develop those types

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00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: of skills and takes experience, and maybe that can be

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Speaker 1: the last frontier of his game that comes and rounds

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Speaker 1: into form. But in terms of run defense, where he

567
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: can play in the run defense blitzing, and then the

568
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: ball hawking in zone when they do allow him to

569
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Speaker 1: kind of roam in the middle and zone, he's just

570
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: been a really impactful player at all three levels of

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Speaker 1: the defense. You bring up a good point too, because

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Speaker 1: if you listen to the way his teammates talk about him,

573
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Speaker 1: it makes it seem like he hasn't even scratched the surface. King. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you don't want him being that he's safety

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Speaker 1: that's in the back of the defense, because he's just

576
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: too valuable up up close. I'd though, but who replaces mccordy.

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Speaker 1: Does he replace mccordy. Yeah, I thought it was, But

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting to listen to Bill earlier

579
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Speaker 1: in the week, I think on the Monday. Yeah, say,

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Speaker 1: we've seen him at free a lot. Well, he talks

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Speaker 1: about free free. So he played free safety at Lenore

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Speaker 1: Ryan and they were for the most part a split

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Speaker 1: safety defense, so they played a lot of quarters, which

584
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: is different than playing center field obviously, so it's it's

585
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different role. But I've always

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Speaker 1: loved his ability to really ball hawk in the back end,

587
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Speaker 1: and I've always felt like when they put him on

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Speaker 1: a tight end, for example, and I get, somebody's got

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Speaker 1: to cover the tight end when you're gonna play as

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00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: much man coverage as the Patriots do, but I thought

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00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: it really it boxes him in right where he can't

592
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: be around the football, and he's at his best when

593
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: he's allowed to just go see ball, get ball, And

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00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: when they make him guard the tight end, it turns

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00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: him into like Patrick right where he's just got the

596
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: tight end and the rest of the of the play

597
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily matter to him as much. But when they're

598
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: allowing him to be that free player in the middle

599
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: of the defense, he's a much more impactful. I think

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Speaker 1: the guy that they are trying to get him to

601
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: emulate is more like Rodney Harrison, who's somebody that wasn't

602
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: really a guy that went one on one with the

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Speaker 1: tight end a whole lot. Don't don't tell that to

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Speaker 1: Ernie Adams. Yeah, he did. Arnie Adams say he told us,

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Speaker 1: he told us the games in which they wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: won unless Rodney Harrison went one on one with their interesting. Okay,

607
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: I definitely trust Ernie a little bit more than me

608
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Speaker 1: on this, But I will say that I always remember

609
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison being a guy that that had his eyes

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00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: in the backfield for most of the time, right, Yeah,

611
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: And that was sort of the player that he was,

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00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: and that was at an era when strong safety was

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Speaker 1: really a thing. Now strong safety is not really as

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00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: much of a thing anymore, so it's different. But I

615
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: think that that's really what I think Dugger is at

616
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: his best is when he's instinctively just being an athlete,

617
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Speaker 1: whether that's dropping in zone or blitzing or playing the

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Speaker 1: run or whatever. When they asked him to play man

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Speaker 1: coverage on tight ends, I just don't feel like his

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Speaker 1: impact on the game is as much as it can

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Speaker 1: be when he's allowed to see the football all the time,

622
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Speaker 1: because then you get the turnovers and you get the

623
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Speaker 1: tackles for loss in the run game, and he had

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Speaker 1: some good run sticks in this game as well. It

625
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: wasn't just the pick six. He was coming downhill him,

626
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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and they don't want to lose that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, eight five five Pass five hundred is the

628
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Speaker 1: ACE ticket. Hut Line web radio at patriot dot com

629
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Speaker 1: is the email address. I will open it up to callers.

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Speaker 1: Some programming notes though, Catch twenty two is gonna be

631
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Speaker 1: tomorrow Thursday. We moved the Thursday before this show, so

632
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: ten thirty Thursday, leading up into PU so it'll be

633
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: our lead in, but it'll be on video. It'll be

634
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Speaker 1: on video. Yeah, and then we'll be on video too.

635
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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, So that's they're just wanted to hopefully,

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Speaker 1: i mean, assuming everything gets, you know, back on track

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Speaker 1: at some point. Yeah. All right, Um, let's go to

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00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: the callers and emailers. I'm sure people have things they

639
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: want to talk about. Sean's in Vancouver, what's up, Sean?

640
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: All right? To Marry you were commenting, and I saw

641
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: the same thing when I was watching my not Tomorrow.

642
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no worries, oh my god, but it seemed like, yeah,

643
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of routine. And Paul, you were mentioning how

644
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 1: this happens in other sports, and I've heard that as

645
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: well with baseballs, and uh, it just seems so so

646
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: crazy because I've never seen that before in the NFL,

647
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: That's right, Is this just like just a crazy weird

648
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: like you said, strike, lightning strikes. You know this at

649
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: this very moment, because it did. I couldn't see anything

650
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: that that really was out of the unordinary, Right, Yeah,

651
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: it was. That's why, like you know, um, they've taught

652
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: who was a Jerry Hughes they were talking about who

653
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: had a heart attack and died after the game. I

654
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: think that was nineteen seventy one. That was fifty years ago. Um,

655
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: we've never seen this. I mean, everybody that was on

656
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: TV last night, Aikman, Booger, you know, everybody. It's like

657
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: we've we've never seen this before, you know, Um, it

658
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: is it's it's it's a it's a rare thing, uh,

659
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: that we witnessed. And that's kind of what rattles us

660
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: is that we don't see this a lot. We see

661
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: the guys that you know, they get the head injury

662
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: and they can't move their feet and we're waiting for

663
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: them to, you know, move something. We see that like

664
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: what at least once a season because they're willing them off.

665
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: So we've almost become numb to that, but this is different.

666
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, to see someone being given CPR on the

667
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: field is a traumatic thing. Like this person could die

668
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: right in front of me. You know, that's a traumatic thing.

669
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: And I know things like like Hank Gathers remember him

670
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: and yeah that was yeah, and Reggie Lewis, But weren't

671
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: those heart conditions that were like it wasn't just like

672
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: totally differently, they were different. And Reggie happened in practice,

673
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, And so we didn't shooting around. Yeah, no,

674
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: we didn't see it live on TV. You know. Condition

675
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: this is just yeah, out of the blue. Yeah, you know.

676
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: On another topic, we've talked a lot about how much

677
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: we think there should be done in the offseason for

678
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: the offense in terms of coaching and the offensive line,

679
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But a little bit less attention is on

680
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: special teams, and I think that needs to be dressed

681
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: as well. Changes on special teams. So what are some

682
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: of the things you'd like to see in terms of

683
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: maybe essence for a coach for special teams. You already

684
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: got him, he's on this team right now. You think

685
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: he'll be good enough to do that? Like then, I

686
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: guess he's done it. He was the coordinator, you know, yeah,

687
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: and they and the numbers were good when he was

688
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, for special teams, you know, a lot of

689
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's just dumb mistakes. It's running

690
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: into the punter twice already, that that really costs them.

691
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: We are so in the margins when this stuff is

692
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: an impact though, Like that that's the thing. And like

693
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's not a factor, because it

694
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: certainly is a factor. But the fact that every single

695
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: time they run into the punter, it's like this huge

696
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: issue that they can't overcome, is like a much bigger

697
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: issue than money into the punter, right, Okay, Like you know,

698
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: fourth and six becomes fourth and one and they gave

699
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: up the first down. Now, the defense ended up getting

700
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: the stop on that drive. They didn't give up a

701
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: score on that drive. But like these are things that

702
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: like I think it's worse in Minnesota, for example, when

703
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: they when they ran into the punter at the end

704
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: of the game there, Like the defense can't get a

705
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: stop in the offense can't answer. Like that's a bigger

706
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: problem to me than the one play that happens on

707
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: special teams. It's just we're so every little thing needs

708
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: to go right, you know, And and they can't have

709
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: these like mistakes like that in the kicking game because

710
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: they're already taking on water in these games as it is,

711
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: and these mistakes just bury them even further down underneath

712
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: the surface. And that's a problem. That's that's that's the

713
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: bigger point, is the inability to overcome mistakes. And I

714
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: would say, what's the trajectory of the punter and the

715
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: kicker too, Like, what what are we looking at with

716
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: Nick Folk? Is he in a slump? Is this is

717
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: the end approaching for him? And Jake Bailey? Was this

718
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: an injury thing? They paid him a bunch of money,

719
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: you know? Is this something that's been happening and he

720
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: gets healthy, he'll be okay back on track. Or is

721
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: that something else you have to explore it to get around.

722
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously bigger than than coaching. Just

723
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: comes another kicker in the fifth round, Thanks Sean all Right,

724
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: Todds to North Carolina. Hey, Todd Wasser, So I was

725
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: going to start going all Perillo saying, you know, look

726
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: what they do on the field. You're supposed to make

727
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: a up quarterback look like a like a backup quarterback,

728
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: and they didn't do that with Bridgewater really well. Blah

729
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: blah blah. And I was gonna bust Evan for some

730
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: stat stuff, but I don't want me to say Evan's

731
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: right and see what he did with the Raiders when

732
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: you give him some tools, what's going on this? We're

733
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: not gonna know what mac is until he gets some tools,

734
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: I'd like. I know, we like to think that he

735
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: has them, but he doesn't. For God's sake, stud him

736
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: can play that well against one of the best defenses

737
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Okay, but it was one game, you know,

738
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: so I think the better examples Brock really, to be

739
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: honest with you, like ither one of them are on him.

740
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm all for this call because it supports me, But

741
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: I think the better argument is Brock Purdy right, like

742
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: he's been doing this for a month now, and they

743
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: drop him in the same offense and Jimmy G. Also,

744
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: let's face it, Jimmy G is not this like tools.

745
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: He Josh Allen justin Herbert Cyborg and they play him

746
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: in that offense, and that offense is a top five,

747
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: top ten offense with Jimmy in there. Every single year,

748
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: every single year. They have great offense in San Francisco

749
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: with Jimmy And that's what I've been saying all along.

750
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Now the Niners are they're a very difficult bar to reach, right, Like,

751
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: they have great playmakers, they have great scheme, all that

752
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But at the same time, you know

753
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: that that's well, that's going to be the different Todd

754
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: is you know, are we able to fairly judge Mac

755
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Jones this year? I think I don't think we are

756
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: right now. I really feel we are, and I don't know.

757
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people agree with I mean,

758
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: I would agree basically with Todd, but I also would

759
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: say that not every team gets Davante Adams, you know,

760
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: Like I mean, yes, you need good weapons, and that's

761
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: been a hindrance for Mac. But at the same time,

762
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: like you still have to be able to make things

763
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: happen when those guys, because it's like to premier, I

764
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't even want Davonte Adams. That's like, just

765
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: give me somebody who's consistent, you know, somebody who's better

766
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: than number sixteen. Number sixteen for us is amazing. He's

767
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: like yeah, but he's not. He's a third he's your

768
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: third on the depth chart, he's your consistent if Adams. Yeah, yeah,

769
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: But I think his point is is that it doesn't

770
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: even need to reach of Davante Adams level. Higgins would

771
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: be the number one, Right, you have so little that

772
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: you can't even judge the quarterback. And yeah, we don't

773
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: have the best that maybe a top five receiver in

774
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: the game, but we still have enough to know that

775
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: our quarterback is pretty good and can make things work

776
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: with guys that maybe aren't the most elite guys. But

777
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: I agree with your point, Todd. I mean, I think

778
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: that it is below the pail of you know, how

779
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: much you need to be able to give a guy.

780
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not. I'm not saying this as a

781
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: detriment of Jacobe Myers, because I think he's a good player,

782
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: and this is more about the roster construction. But if

783
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: you took every single team's leading receiver one through thirty two, like,

784
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: where does Myer's rank in that conversation, it's definitely in

785
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: the bottom half. Like I know, agree, it might even

786
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: be bottom five, right, So, so he's a very low

787
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: end number one receiver with the Patriots. So I'm not

788
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: even asking them to go out and get Davante Adams

789
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: or to go out and get Jamar Chase or someone

790
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: like that. But I look at these teams last night

791
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: before what obviously happened, and you just look at when

792
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Cincinnati was here, and like te Higgins would be the

793
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: best receiver on the Patriots roster, and he's this number

794
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: two guy in Cincinnati. Gabriel Davis might be the number

795
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: one guy in New England if he was here, and

796
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: he's the number two guys to find Diggs in Buffalo.

797
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: So you have you start to get down the order

798
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: of those teams that have good offenses. You know, Miami

799
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: comes in here with two number one receivers and you

800
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: know if you had a top flight receiver on the Patriots,

801
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 1: it would MIAs would be even better. Yeah, it would

802
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: make him better. You know. I just think that, you know,

803
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: the ultimately, the thing that I always say with Mac

804
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: is that there's enough good there on film with him,

805
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: especially in recent weeks, Like I would say, since really

806
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: thanks give except maybe in Buffalo. But in that game,

807
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: I think it was more the game plan was to

808
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: throw the ball shot and it just didn't really work.

809
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: But I think from Thanksgiving on. There was enough there

810
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: to not necessarily say that he's going to be this

811
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: great franchise, long term answer quarterback, but to go into

812
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: year three thinking that we, you know, let's get let's

813
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: let's see what we got with him in year three.

814
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: And now these people that want to just give up

815
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: on him and right now after two seasons, I think

816
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: are rushing to judgment. I mean, you know, it would

817
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: be great to be a fly on the wall in

818
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback room or when they're doing film, because what

819
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: we're not seeing the evident mistakes that we've saw earlier,

820
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: but we don't know what he's missing. Oh I know

821
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: what he's missing. Yeah, I'm not in the meetings, but

822
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: I can see it on the film. And like there's

823
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: decisions from this last game against the Dolphins where I

824
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: thought he struggled once Miami adjusted to zone and they

825
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: adjusted to zone, and his reads are the short part

826
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: of the field were iffy against zone. You know, you're

827
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: running like snag concepts where Nelson aglor is running a

828
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: hook and then you're running a receiver into the flat

829
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: and you're just trying to read out where does the

830
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: zone dropper go? Does he go with the flatter, does

831
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: he stay inside and you throw where he isn't right

832
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: and it's there to Nelson aglore and he just makes

833
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: the wrong read. And that's those types of things give

834
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: me concerns more so than I think. Where I come

835
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: from with it is that a lot of people's concerns

836
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: with mac Jones are number one, like raw talent, right,

837
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: just raw arm talent and tools, and then number two

838
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: and boomers. Sison went on EI yesterday what he said

839
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: it was kind of unfair. Yeah, but this ultimately to me,

840
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: Fred is such a big part of this mac Jones discourse,

841
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: and that is that people just don't like, Yeah, he's

842
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: just his aesthetic is bad. He doesn't have swagger, his

843
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: body language is bad. You know when he has a

844
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: bad play, it looks really ugly and you know, they

845
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: blitz up the middle and he can't get out of

846
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: the blitz and then he's kind of you know, flailing

847
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: around on the intentional grounding last week, and people are

848
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: just like, it's just it just ugly, right, right, But

849
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: when you actually take out of it, the the aesthetic

850
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: of it and how it looks, you know, what what

851
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: what what is? What is it? How did we get here, like,

852
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: what's the mistake on the play? Right? Like? What why?

853
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 1: What's the mistake? Is the mistake that the quarterback missed

854
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: the read? Either the quarterback held the ball too long,

855
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: or is it that on third and one they called

856
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: play action in the landon Roberts was in the backfield

857
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: in a half a second? Right, Like, where's the mistake

858
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: on the play? And I think more times than not,

859
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot more times where I would say there's

860
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: mistakes happening that are out of his control. And then

861
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: that's that's what I don't know, right, Yeah, And that's

862
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: what I think. You know, fans don't know, and they're

863
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: they're they're going in with the bias, and you know,

864
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: if they don't like Mac to begin with, then it's

865
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: his mistake. If you don't like Matt Patricia, it's I

866
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: don't think there were too many people that entered the

867
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: year not like me Mac. I think everybody was pretty

868
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: much an agreement solid rookie year, something to build on.

869
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: He's the guy for the future, and I think a

870
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: lot of people have changed their opinions. I don't think

871
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: it's a predisplay. I think dislike of Mac. I think

872
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: um I think there were both. I think there were

873
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: a lot of people on the fence, and then those

874
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: people on the fence have now picked a side. You know,

875
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Zappi's performance is really and that didn't

876
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: help there. Yeah, that didn't help Mac getting helped off

877
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: the field. That didn't help either, which time, Yes, he

878
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: wants to be starting. Everybody doesn't even what's your take then?

879
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I just wish that I played under those circumstances.

880
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: Everything I did right, it was me. Everything I did

881
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: wrong was because I was putting a bad business. But

882
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: that's not what Evans said. That's kind of what people say,

883
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: like third and one, like, okay, bad play call. I

884
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: called that that was part of my bad list on Sunday, right.

885
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was herrific. Evan and I talked about

886
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: it live during the game. Yeah, not allowed to try

887
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: to like make something out of the play. But but okay,

888
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: so every quarterback's going to make mistakes, and you know,

889
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: the younger you are, probably the more mistakes you are.

890
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: I think the question that people are asking is if

891
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: the other things were okay, then I think I could

892
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: have anybody playing quarterback. I go back to the Belichick things. Yeah,

893
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: if as long as I have a guy with a

894
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: reasonable amount of ability and intelligence, I'm going to do

895
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: all the work for him, and I can be brock

896
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: purty to it. I just think that right now. The

897
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: biggest thing to me, like the third and one, like

898
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: what do you want him to do? Like Landon Roberts

899
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: is I hate? I hate. I'm not defending that anything

900
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: about that place, right I just don't know what you

901
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: want him to do there. But I just don't think

902
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: that he can overcome anything that goes bad. That's my point. Okay,

903
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: But you know, the ball to Hunter Henry, He's got

904
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: Jayleen Phillips like right in his face and he throws

905
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: it right staring down the barrel. And I didn't say

906
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: he's incapable of making any place. I just think that

907
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: those types of plays happen more than people give him

908
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: credit for, because I think a lot of people are

909
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: just out on him, and I think a lot of

910
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: people have already made up their mind. I think a

911
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: lot of people like Dani Rolovski, who can continues to

912
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: bang the drum, I think out of pure hatred of Matt.

913
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: Patricia from Detroit is calling these plays out like this,

914
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: guy can't play. I mean, oh, okay, now I get it.

915
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: If you make three NFL caliber throws, everybody that is

916
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: down on him is wrong, I get it. I mean, like,

917
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: so like you say that, like people will predisposed to

918
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: not like him. I'm not predisposed to not like him.

919
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm unsure of whether or not he could be a

920
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Yeah, I am too, but that's that's not

921
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: a predisposition. I think there are a lot of guys

922
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: that are predisposed to think that he's the man, right,

923
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: because that's what they thought coming out of college. He

924
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: was the most NFL ready. That's the way that they

925
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: all viewed him. And now, no matter what happens, it's

926
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: the structures full I think for those people, like even

927
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: those people that said he the most NFL ready said,

928
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: but he's got a ceiling. But he's got a ceiling,

929
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: and now those people like, yeah, but the things that

930
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: we thought that he had going for him, which was

931
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: the accuracy, the recognition, you know, we're not seeing that,

932
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, and so yeah, I mean I think that's

933
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: why I don't think you've seen pois. But I think

934
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: the accuracy is still. I thought, like that's throw that

935
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Evan's talking about. To Hunter him that was a great throw.

936
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: Was I still see for the most part or pretty

937
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: accurate paths. That's why I always that's why I keep

938
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: going back to the structure and the coaching of things,

939
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: because accuracy, timing, anticipation, processing, mental processing, these restraints on

940
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: his rookie tape. Right, So, like, did he all of

941
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: a sudden forget how to play football? No, of course, not,

942
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: like he didn't just forget how to read an underneath

943
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: zone overnight or in one offseason or something like that.

944
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why how you get there that all

945
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden. Now you know, he reads out a

946
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: trips formation and he's throwing to the wrong guy. I

947
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: don't know how we got there. But with McDaniels last year,

948
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: that ball is to Nelson Aglore. Right now, the ball

949
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: is to Jacoby Meyers in double coverage. Like, I don't

950
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: know how we made it to that point. But that's

951
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: why I'm always harping on the fact that, Okay, if

952
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: we come in next year and I'm not asking for

953
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: Davante Adams and Kyle Shanahan, like, can we just give

954
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: him some semblance of solid foundation to work with and

955
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: then he is still failing, then we can have the

956
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: conversation of let's let's move on or let's find something better.

957
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: But I'm willing to at least give him next year.

958
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: That's not to say that I'm convinced. I'm willing. There's

959
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: no way I'm pulling the plug after two years. Like no, Like,

960
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: I think these guys have to be bad guys off

961
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: the field and sabotage a locker room to not get

962
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: three years as for a first round quarterback. I mean, yeah,

963
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: you have to give him another year. Yeah, I mean

964
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: comparing last year to this year, Like, I thought Mac

965
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: was okay last year. Um, I think that he was

966
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: protected in in the way that they ran their offense,

967
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: and I think he had Josh McDaniels last year. Um,

968
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: you know you asked, like, what what happened? Where? How

969
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: do we get where we are? Well, the thing that's

970
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: changed is is who his coordinator is and who is

971
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah that's that. That's a fact, But it doesn't look

972
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: into any of the wise that Evan's talking about. Now.

973
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: I think Evan and I would probably disagree on some

974
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: of the wise. I look at last year, there was

975
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: a steady decline the second half of the season with

976
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: the almighty Josh McDaniels College. And I agree, And I

977
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: think that had at least something to do with the

978
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: fact that opposing defense has started to realize that's what

979
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: he could and couldn't do. That's right, they got tape

980
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: on him. And you know, I keep repeating it, but

981
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: it you know, it's true. The Patriots were easy to defend.

982
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: They said that last year, not this year. Last year

983
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: they said still, they're a lot easier to defend this ship. Right.

984
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: But what my point is that, you know, we talk about, oh,

985
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: he had this great rookie season, and for a rookie quarterback,

986
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: he did. And that's another part of it. I think

987
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: some of the same kinds of like I think you

988
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: would have looked at a game like they were still

989
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: easy to defend. I think you would have looked at

990
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: a game like Sunday as a fantastic game for him

991
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: last year because of the throws that Evan's talking about

992
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: right now, You're expecting more, right, like moving the ball

993
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: and scoring points. I'm a real hard greater. If you

994
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: can do those things, I'll tell you that I think

995
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: you played well. Yeah, and they don't do those things.

996
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: More often than not, they don't move it and they

997
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: don't score. I think consistency is the last frontier for him,

998
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: right because he had and that's what I wrote, and

999
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: after further review this week, is that I can make

1000
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: a hitting the mic and everything Bill Belichick for here,

1001
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: I can make the I can make a cut up

1002
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: of him throwing the ball down the field with great

1003
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: accuracy and timing or what pffles to call big time throws,

1004
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: which right now he's got twenty one of them on

1005
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: the year. He's actually top five in how in rate

1006
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: of big time throws. Because he missed some games, he

1007
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: can't really go buy the raw total. And if I

1008
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: told you that Mac Jones is throwing one of those

1009
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: big time downfield NFL passes, if you want to call

1010
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: him that, as often as Aaron Rodgers is, oh, I

1011
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: believe that. Well, Aaron Rodgers top five in the stat too.

1012
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: I believe Aaron Rodgers took the first twelve weeks off

1013
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: or or is as often you know, as Josh Allen

1014
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: leads the league in the stat and is fractions ahead

1015
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: of Mac Jones. You would probably tell me I'm crazy,

1016
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: But that's That's that's the fact, right, That's like what

1017
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: we're seeing. The problem is is that he has these

1018
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: stretches like the middle two quarters on Sunday where the

1019
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: consistency isn't there and he's not hitting layups, right, So

1020
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: I think that the downfield throws are great, but you

1021
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: gotta be able to consistently hit the layups on first.

1022
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: And I would also like, you know, to cherry pick

1023
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: a stat like that and say that he's up there

1024
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: with the best in the game while not acknowledging that, like, well,

1025
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: their offenses is so much better, Like I mean, the

1026
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: Bills have punted like a third of the times that

1027
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: the Patriots have punted this year. So yeah, maybe Josh

1028
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: Allen isn't always making it with deep throws or whatever.

1029
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: The big time throws a big time thing, That's what

1030
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, though maybe it's not always big time throws,

1031
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: but they're always moving the ball and they're always productive.

1032
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: And when they do that step, did they take in

1033
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: the consideration the attempts, Like, Okay, so he's got twenty

1034
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: one big time throws, what's the percentage of attempts there?

1035
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: His percentage, his percentage, the rate of which he does.

1036
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: It is big time throws overpass attempts, right, So to me,

1037
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: the issue isn't The issue isn't the high level throws

1038
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: down the field. Like he can do that all right,

1039
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: He did it on Sunday, He did it in the

1040
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: second half against Cincinnati. The issue is right now with

1041
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: him is the layups, right, Like hitting Hunter Henry in

1042
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: the flat and it's first and ten and if you

1043
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: hit Hunter Henry in the flat, it's now second and four,

1044
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: but it's incomplete, so now it's second and ten, right,

1045
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: or that Agalore example I gave you, Like these throws

1046
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: are the ones to Paul's point, these throws are the

1047
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: ones that continue drives, like these are drive starting throws,

1048
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: or these are throws that keep you in second and

1049
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: third and manageables to continue to move the football down

1050
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: the field. And that's where you get into three and

1051
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: out right. It's it's stuff to run on first down, incomplete,

1052
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: on second down, incomplete, on third down, punt right because

1053
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: third downs now third and nine right every single time

1054
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: because you're not converting on first and second. So he's

1055
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: got to do a better job on early downs of

1056
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,000
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01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: So but we wouldn't normally anywhere, No, we would, We wouldn't.

1263
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: But you know, there's the whole the whole playoff ramifications

1264
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: if we win, if we don't, and all that. It's

1265
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: like we can leave that for now. Um, you know,

1266
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: let's let's let's wait until we find out what's going

1267
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: on with Hamlin. I could throw us into a little direction.

1268
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: How about this is totally random, but Sean Wade can't

1269
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't dress for this game? Sean Wade. Yeah,

1270
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: that was weird. How does he not get? How does

1271
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: he not dress? With injuries they have and they promote

1272
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: two guys from the practice squad and sit him? Can

1273
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: I run my thing by Evan see if? Yeah? Maybe

1274
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: Evan just Um in this particular game. Yeah. With the

1275
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 1: the stature of the Dolphins wide receivers, small quick guys,

1276
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't really that's not Sean Wade. I don't know.

1277
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: The larger answer is I don't know. But philosophical ques

1278
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't completely stunned to see him, Oh, because I

1279
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: said to myself, where does he fit against the liability

1280
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: on the field? Yeah? Yeah, Now the liability, I don't

1281
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: think every time they put him on the field, he

1282
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: gets burned every single time. I don't think he could play.

1283
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: That's the bigger picture. But if they had bigger receivers,

1284
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: I could understand them saying, well, we got no choice,

1285
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 1: we gotta put them out. Oh yeah, that's totally fair.

1286
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: He played one snap against Cincinnati, gave up a touchdown,

1287
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: correct one snap, one touchdown against Minnesota pretty much the

1288
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: same thing. Wasn't a touchdown, but he got be coming

1289
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: across the field by Justin Jefferson on the like play

1290
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: like six snaps. But but if you're playing eight percent zone,

1291
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: doesn't that Isn't that a little safer for him? I suppose.

1292
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: I just when I look, it's I think he's played

1293
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: eighteen defensive stabs, so it's a very low failed experiment.

1294
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: But I think when I watch him playing, take a

1295
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: flyer on the guy doesn't look like an NFL player

1296
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: to me. But they give up for him a fifth round. Yeah, yeah,

1297
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: I just And I'm not killing him for it because

1298
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: it's a minor deal. But when a team like Baltimore

1299
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: gets rid of him, gets rid of him in his

1300
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: rookie training camp, it tells me there's something special negatively

1301
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: working against that guy Baltimore. Baltimore is not a team

1302
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: that is poor in their talent evaluations. There's some teams

1303
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: that are like for them to pull the you know,

1304
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders have had a litany of high draft picks

1305
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: that they've cut first and second year, like they've missed,

1306
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, whether it be for character reasons or otherwise.

1307
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore is not one of those teams. So when Baltimore

1308
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: was ready to pull the plug on a I think

1309
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. Yeah, a fifth round pick coming

1310
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: out of his rookie training camp. That's that's like unprecedented.

1311
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: It's it's so weird with Sean Way two. So his

1312
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: timeline at Ohio State in twenty nineteen, he was a

1313
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: shutdown slot for them that people. I know, there's some

1314
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: things out there that said he was gonna be first

1315
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: round pick. He wasn't. He was gonna be a top

1316
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: one hundred pick. He would have been taken on Day two,

1317
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: but he was a good prospect. He comes back to

1318
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State in twenty twenty and they had to play

1319
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: him on the outside because they just didn't have anybody

1320
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: out there and they had to move him outside. He

1321
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: gets injured, and then DeVante Smith took his lunch money

1322
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: in the National Championship Game and he falls to the

1323
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: fifth round. And I think that the thought for everybody

1324
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: when they acquired him was well, if they can get

1325
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen player, then then maybe they have som right.

1326
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: But I think what ultimately ended up happening and what

1327
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: has shown on the field is that that national championship

1328
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: game against Davonte Smith showed you what he looked like. Again,

1329
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: it's an NFL receiver and that is a non competitive

1330
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: So that's a Speaking of college, we didn't really mention

1331
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: any of the playoff games that happened over the weekend.

1332
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about Paul didn't get a

1333
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: good look at those ones. No, he was predisposing your

1334
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: TV like I did. Yeah, that's only would do that

1335
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: at someone's wedding. Friend, It's only a special kind of

1336
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: person that would bring a TV to someone's wedding. I

1337
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: only used it during the reception. It was my wedding. Ce.

1338
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: Do you take this woman? So I saw the first

1339
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: half of the Michigan TCU game and that's it. Yeah,

1340
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: you know. So the good news is, you know, it

1341
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: wasn't like they were two good games or anything that

1342
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: I meant. Do you think that this Georgia quarterbacks any good? Yeah?

1343
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: First away years old. Yeah, we don't have agesm here.

1344
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's fine, But I'm saying, like Jackson, I know,

1345
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: what about the Michigan kid. We got a soft spot

1346
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,879
Speaker 1: from Michigan, you guys around here. No, the TCU quarterbacks

1347
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: growing on me. A little bit. Don't let Barth hear

1348
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: that though, because I've been bashing the kid all year.

1349
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: But he's a gamer. Yeah no, I don't think so.

1350
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: But probably he'll probably end up being a Day three

1351
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: pick just because of the playoff performance. Someone would keep

1352
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: him around as a third stringer because he's yeah it's scrappy. Yeah,

1353
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: now they're receiver. Quinton Johnson's going to be a first

1354
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: round pick. And I have tons of reservations about him

1355
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: here just because he's not a route runner. He's not

1356
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: somebody that is going to create a ton of separation.

1357
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: But he runs away from people and he won't fit

1358
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: in here. That's not it's not what we need. I

1359
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: don't care for your tone. He's a he's a beast.

1360
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: Uh Now, he's a good player, kind of Mike Evans.

1361
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: I like that team. I like that team is uh.

1362
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: I think they have more talent than they're given credit for.

1363
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: I think they're like this scrap they get a shot.

1364
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: They're a big twelve team. It's not like, yeah, you

1365
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: know that they're you know, coming out of nowhere. They

1366
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: they're they're pretty good. Somebody I was listen to somebody

1367
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: on the radio, some old guy, and he's like, you know,

1368
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: in the business, not not just a talking head, uh caller,

1369
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, oh, TCU's definitely got

1370
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: a shot. They're bigger and faster than Georgia. Definitely Georgia. Yeah,

1371
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's George's thing is they beat the hell

1372
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: out of you. They might be faster. I think TCU

1373
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: has a chance in a shootout against Georgia because I

1374
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: think they have the better offense. But that Georgia defense,

1375
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: their defensive line is like some NFL teams, if you

1376
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: swapped down Georgia's defensive line, they'd probably improve. But it's

1377
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is one of the best prospects on the

1378
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: D line in a why it's amazing that they lost

1379
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: like the entire defense, Yeah, and just turned it over

1380
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: to a unit that's every bit as good. Yeah. Oh

1381
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: and the Kirby's a great he's great on that side

1382
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: of the ball too. Try to get him for a

1383
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: coach's clinic. Is that coming back over those back last year? Yeah,

1384
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: he's a Belichick guy. Yeah. Yeah, you get the Holy

1385
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: Cross guys coming back. Oh he's there, then he's out.

1386
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: Then he's a Belichick guy who Yeah, he'll ask Bill

1387
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: holy Cross will be there. Well, to that point, a

1388
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: lot of what Georgia runs, we run here. So when

1389
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: Kirby goes to these coaching clinics and stuff and they

1390
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: put it on YouTube, I always watched his presentations because

1391
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: he's just breaking down the Patriots defense for everybody. So yeah,

1392
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: Bill might might say no to that. All right. Five

1393
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: hotline web radio at Patriots dot com is the email address.

1394
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: Let's get to some of the emails. Excuse me at

1395
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: web radio at Patrios dot com. Tyler writes in UM,

1396
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: I was hoping you guys could explain this new forward

1397
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: progress rule that stopped the fumble on the Dolphins first drive.

1398
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: So he's pretty neat and would have been nice if

1399
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: it existed. When Romandres fumbled against the Bengals' terrible call, yep,

1400
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: terrible terrible call instant they were both It's very easy.

1401
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: One was a bad non call and one was a

1402
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: bad call. No, I think this one was greediously bad call.

1403
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: Like this. It was terrible for he. Mostert was he

1404
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: got hit and kind of broke the first tackle and

1405
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: got hit a second time. Right, It was just it

1406
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: was not forward progress, not even close and it's very

1407
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: easy when you see a bad call to call it out.

1408
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: You guys should take a lesson to that. Oh what ouch,

1409
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about. It's a bad call,

1410
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: this is what it was. Yeah, and it's not a

1411
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: new rule, A terrible, terrible call like it was as

1412
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: bad a call as you'll see all year, Like Sarah

1413
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,839
Speaker 1: Thomas not her shining moment, flipping coins on the sideline

1414
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: on in and out of bounds. Um Sulman in the

1415
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: Bay Area rites in. I watched the game live he's

1416
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: talking about last night, of course, and it was very

1417
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: scary to see an unfold. When I saw the look

1418
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: on Diggs and Alan's face, I immediately knew this was dire.

1419
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,520
Speaker 1: This was prior to Joe Buck announcing CPR was administered.

1420
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: I kept checking Twitter last night to see if there

1421
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: are any updates. My thoughts are with Hamlin, his family

1422
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: and teammates. Hard to turn the page and talk football,

1423
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: So I'll leave my thoughts from Sunday's game off for now. Yeah,

1424
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: well said, yep, it is. It's just a weird after

1425
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: all the whole season and you feel like things are

1426
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: kind of buildingto a climax. And now it's just I

1427
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in the you know, it's like appointment television.

1428
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: Last and it really it looked like it was going

1429
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: to be a good game. I started, you know, I

1430
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: I started watching the game and I was, you know,

1431
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: I was a little into it. And then you know, yeah,

1432
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: you have two of the best teams in football playing

1433
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: late in the year. It's almost like you're saying, it's

1434
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: a shame that they're playing now, Like I'd rather see

1435
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: this game in like three weeks and like the conference

1436
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: championship or something like that. You might, well, I don't

1437
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: know about that now, but I like, I have serious

1438
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: reservations of what this rest of the season is going

1439
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: to look like, period for everybody, but especially Buffalo, alex

1440
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: and Raleigh. First of all, prayers out to tomorrow Hamlin

1441
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: and his family. My question for you all is about

1442
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: the health safety about players. There's been a lot of

1443
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: talk about the safety of players the last few years

1444
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: and how there are efforts to make the game safer. However,

1445
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: given the amount of concussions, turf injuries, and what happened

1446
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: last night, I don't recall a season where this was

1447
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: this much of severe injuries around the league. In your opinion,

1448
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: do you think the game is getting safer? What can

1449
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 1: be done to protect the players and their families who

1450
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: suffered from the aftermath of playing wild careers? Again, this

1451
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: particular thing that happened last night, it's not a football injury,

1452
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: and it's not those things that he's talking about are

1453
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: actually all down. Yeah, just in terms of strict data

1454
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: like concussions and whatnot, and the turf related injuries. You know,

1455
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: maybe that's wrong. Maybe they're the NFL is propaganding us,

1456
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: you know, like they want to do, but the numbers

1457
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: say that they're down. Neil and New Brunswick has an

1458
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: interesting I don't know the answer, he says. They were

1459
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: saying one of the good things about Hamlin's injury was

1460
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: the stadium was only two miles from a Level one

1461
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: trauma center. Has that ever been a concern until at stadium,

1462
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: which is sort of halfway between Boston Providence. That's interesting.

1463
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 1: There was there used to be a hospital in Norwood.

1464
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: I think it. I think it went under though. That's yeah.

1465
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean they've got the whole medical center here now,

1466
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,480
Speaker 1: but it's not Level one trauma. Yeah, there are hospitals

1467
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: that are close and you're looking at a helicopter for Yeah,

1468
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: how quick would a flight med flight be to mash General.

1469
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: So Milford Milford Hospital is that level one. I don't

1470
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 1: think any of those hospitals would have that kind of equipment.

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: They do have the helicopter, get a med flight in

1472
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: five minutes. Yeah. That Cincinnati hospital though, that that's a

1473
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: good place for him to be. That's a yeah, that's

1474
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: one of the best hospitals in the country. Yeah. And

1475
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: I did see, you know, doctor Chow for the former Childers,

1476
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: who's really good at sort of diagnosing injuries off of

1477
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: tv UM, and he did make a point, and I

1478
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: heard a couple of doctors actually say similar things when

1479
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: I was watching the news later. And you said, obviously

1480
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: not an ideal situation, but other than an actual hospital

1481
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: where he collapsed, it is probably as good a place

1482
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: as he could have possibly collapsed. Yeah, So medical professionals

1483
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: all over the price with all with the proper equipment,

1484
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: properly trained, the people that were administering the CPR, you know,

1485
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: you know they've done it before. That could argue that

1486
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 1: even some hospitals, it's probably better to happen on the

1487
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 1: field with some of the best of the best training

1488
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: and medical stuff. Yep. So what did you guys think overall,

1489
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: like of the coverage Like ESPN, I think they did

1490
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: the best they could do. I mean, I thought kind

1491
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: of felt I actually was impressed. I thought they did

1492
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: a really good job. It's hard and I could nitpick

1493
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: a million different things that pretty much every one of

1494
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: them said. Yeah, but I thought they did a pretty

1495
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: good job on it. I'm glad they stuck with it

1496
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: rather than all right, let's go to USC Women's volley.

1497
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think you needed to because Pete, because

1498
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: we're all like, we're living this with them, and yeah,

1499
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: we you know, as as a viewer, you want them

1500
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: to stick with it. You know, you you're like, Okay,

1501
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: I need to. The commercials were killing me. Yeah, and

1502
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: I know why they were doing the same. Was it

1503
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: Susie Colber that came on then with with with Booger

1504
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: McFarlane and want to I know, I know, I just

1505
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: I thought Hanger and Ryan Clark were really, really good.

1506
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: They were just like the raw emotion of a former player,

1507
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: and then Ryan Clark having the unique perspective of his

1508
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: condition that premitted him for being able to play in Denver. Well,

1509
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Clark was amazing, Like Booker though, like

1510
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to talk about it, but

1511
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: I know, I know you. And I thought Susie Colber

1512
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: did a good job of just slowing it down and

1513
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, understanding he wasn't comfortable jumping right into something

1514
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, it's just it's a really

1515
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: difficult situation. And Schefter was, you know, he was I

1516
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: would like he put the phone away. He was, like

1517
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: I could pick. He was neutralized though, like usually he's

1518
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: the guy, okay, when you into Schefter, he's giving you

1519
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: what he heard. There was nothing to be heard, like

1520
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: he kept he kept looking at his phone, and I

1521
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: was like, no, please, please do not do this, do

1522
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: not deliver this news that we were all He's kept

1523
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: looking at his phone. I know. Like I said, I

1524
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: could nitpick something that everybody did or said throughout, but

1525
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: I thought as a whole, I thought ESPN and those

1526
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: guys that they're all sports, you know, and they all

1527
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: said it like you know, we we we get into sports,

1528
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: we're covered like Lisa Salters, Yeah, excellent, excellent, excellent, she

1529
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: was the best well and excellent, you know, like she's

1530
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: a good example of like when you witness something like that,

1531
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: it rattles you, you know, and she she held it together,

1532
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: but you could tell, like, but she was giving you

1533
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: some really interesting stuff like under the stands and without

1534
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: being intrusive, without making yourself part of the story, which

1535
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,560
Speaker 1: I thought some of the other reporters that sort of

1536
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: came in the aftermath, I thought it was about them

1537
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. That Kali Harvey was one of them.

1538
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I'm from Cincinnati. Yeah it was.

1539
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care where you live. And

1540
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, in today's age, you got to

1541
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: give credit to the fans that were at the game,

1542
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, like they all like I never saw a

1543
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: more quiet stadium, and then when it was announced the suspension,

1544
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: like they just left fanshit up to the hospital. Yeah,

1545
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: they said that it was so quiet. Actually, I was

1546
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: texting with Tracks last night because he was at the

1547
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: game and covering the from the Bengals, and he said

1548
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: it was so quiet in the stadium when they were

1549
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: taking him off in the ambulance that you could hear

1550
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: the sirens going all the way to the hospital. Because

1551
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,839
Speaker 1: you could just hear a pin drop in the stadium

1552
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 1: and I just look at it from God forbid. What

1553
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: if it was one of the guys in this locker

1554
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: room that I'm around all the time and covering it

1555
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: as a beat reporter. I just don't know how eight

1556
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know how to capture something like that. But

1557
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: b I don't even know how you you go about

1558
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: doing your job right. So I really commend all these

1559
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: people that were there that that did their job to

1560
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: the best of their ability, because I know, if you

1561
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: know a guy like to mar Hamlin, for a lot

1562
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: of these reporters, you speak to him at least once

1563
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 1: a week if not, if not more, and you see

1564
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: him in the locker room all the time, and he's

1565
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: walking around and and you maybe chat with him and

1566
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that on the side or whatever. And to

1567
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: have this happen to somebody like that, personally, it's personal.

1568
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: It is I'm not going to say that they're friends

1569
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: of ours, but it's it's it's somebody they talk to something,

1570
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, even with how things went down

1571
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: in Vegas with Jacobe, like I wanted to cry for

1572
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: or Arizona rather whatever game it was, I thank you.

1573
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: I felt so bad for him, even from something as

1574
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: trivial as that. So to put it in life in

1575
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: death situations, you don't you know, you feel for them,

1576
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: Alexander writes in Let's hope for the best with the

1577
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: Bill situation. Having witness CPR in person on a loved one,

1578
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,839
Speaker 1: it stayed in my mind for a long time. Regarding

1579
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 1: the Patriots, are you guys getting nikkil Harry vibes from Thornton?

1580
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes the eye test is accurate, And I'm worried his lanky,

1581
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: loose stumbling style is not going to be a good

1582
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: thing going forward. I don't. I don't see. I mean,

1583
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: I have definitely have concerns. I thought he had a

1584
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: pretty nice little bounce back game last week. I don't

1585
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: think he's in there. I mean, we can talk about

1586
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: what his issues are. I think they're different issues than

1587
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: what nikkil Harry had. I agree with that. Different issues, Yeah,

1588
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: not like stiff you know, can't run. It's almost they

1589
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: open separate. But Evan was on something about him early

1590
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: in the season that I think is getting more and

1591
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: more apparent. And that's just like his footwork on or

1592
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: around the sidelines, Like I don't think that that was

1593
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: an impossible catch in the end zone. I made it

1594
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: look like I don't think it was an impossible catch

1595
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: that he ended up getting credit for in the sidelines. Yeah,

1596
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: I know that to me has been a problem with

1597
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: multiple receivers on this team, I would say, or those

1598
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: like drop it in the bucket throws like that's one

1599
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: of those. Like he's got plenty of him to get

1600
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: his feet in bounds plenty. I thought the throw deep

1601
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: to him early in the game the twenty nine year

1602
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: was a near perfect throw from mac Yeah, that he

1603
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: made look ridiculously hard. And that one bugged me a

1604
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: little bit because the one in the end zone, the

1605
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 1: defender goes goes right across and so he just is

1606
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: throwing his hands up and trying to catch it. But

1607
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: Nelson Agilore had one a couple of weeks ago, the

1608
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: same thing where he's drops in the bucket on him

1609
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: and he just doesn't get his feed in bounds, you know.

1610
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: And and that working of the sideline as a skill,

1611
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 1: you know, that's something that they have to work pretty

1612
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: good at. His Parker, and you would think that out

1613
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: of that group, not that he's not an elite athlete,

1614
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: because obviously he is. He was like the eleventh pick overall, Like,

1615
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't think of him in the same kind

1616
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: of you know, fluid athlete kind of nature is. But

1617
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: he's really good at those those sideline throws. Yeah, I

1618
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: just think that is disagree no idea. It's just interesting

1619
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: how guys are, you know, like you try to put

1620
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: guys in a box and you don't really know. Like

1621
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: it's just it's weird the the permutations between different players,

1622
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: even though like nobody's I mean, the fact that he

1623
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: got hurt coming out of camp and missed the first

1624
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: month is sticking in my mind and I'm giving him

1625
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: that out and I like that. I like that he's

1626
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: playing a lot now, Like I like that they're at

1627
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: least giving him the experience he's not producing. But I'm

1628
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking now as are we setting up for something

1629
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: next year? He's getting some experience. At least it's not

1630
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: lost year. Like he's the only guy guaranteed to be

1631
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: back in that in that group. Yeah, I'll say this,

1632
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback likes throwing him the ball, and quarterbacks love

1633
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: thrown got fast guys the ball in general. But I

1634
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 1: do think that for mac he gives not that he's

1635
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 1: the same type of player, but Mac play with a

1636
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of those finesse, speed type of receivers at Alabama,

1637
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: and I think that he gives him some of those

1638
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: those vibes. And I just would like to see Thornton

1639
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: in particular, from a usage standpoint in this game, I

1640
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 1: thought they did a better job of it. But when

1641
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: you pit him against then the sideline, against the boundary

1642
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: and just have him beat press coverage, that's not his game, right.

1643
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: He gets smothered at the line of scrimmage, or he

1644
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: gets pushed into the sideline where there's no throw to

1645
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: be made by the quarterback. But in this game, you

1646
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: know the big catch on the opening drive, they motioned

1647
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: him at the snap, and then they line him up

1648
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: tight to the formation and they give him that room

1649
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: to run into the sideline, and then they hit him

1650
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: up the seam, you know, running out of the slot,

1651
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: like getting him away from physical coverage and bring him

1652
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: in motion, playing him out of the slot. Like, I

1653
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: think those are things that they can do to let

1654
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: him use that speed because he's just a fast guy.

1655
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what's interesting about him, is that, like

1656
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: they always seem to put a premium on blocking and

1657
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: that was a big thing with Harry And it doesn't

1658
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: seem like I'm not saying it's wrong that they should,

1659
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like you're ever gonna plan on

1660
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: getting any blocking on it. Know, like it's just interesting,

1661
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: Like I think I like the direction. But at the

1662
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: same time, like you see him, like Evan said, against

1663
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: Man and all of a sudden, the guy just goes

1664
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: boom and Thornton's just, you know, like one hundred and

1665
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: sixty pounds soaking wet. I think, I mean, I think

1666
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: he's got to put on some weight and like you

1667
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: guys said, rEFInd some of the footwork. But I mean,

1668
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see him in camp next. Jearis

1669
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: got to hold the red line a little bit better.

1670
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: Like on the throw in the end zone when he

1671
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: throws it, he kind of throws like a fade to

1672
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: him in the end zone. He gets bumped off the

1673
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: route and it looked like they may have gotten their

1674
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: feet tangled a little bit. But I just those are

1675
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: those are stiff wind Those are players that, like really

1676
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: good vertical receivers. They find a way to keep themselves

1677
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: moving right, like they don't get bumped off the Yeah,

1678
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: and sometimes I see that a little bit with him

1679
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,560
Speaker 1: is that he's he fades on the route because he

1680
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: gets bumped off of it. Jack in Stoughton a little

1681
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: buy cell game for twenty twenty three. Ready, I could

1682
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: use a game, buy or sell. Judean has thirteen sacks

1683
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and Ouche comes back to add

1684
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: another ten sacks. Buy or sell that? Sure? I'd buy that? Yeah, yeah, sure,

1685
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: why not? Why not buy or sell? Kendrick Bourne emerges

1686
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 1: as a key part of the offense. It has consistent

1687
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 1: productions similar to his first year with the Patriots in

1688
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: twenty three. Can I interrupt this cell? Yeah? We have

1689
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: an update. So Bill's Bengals is not going to be

1690
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: played this week. The NFL has made no decision regarding

1691
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: the possible resumption of the game at a later date.

1692
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,759
Speaker 1: The league has not made any changes the Week eighteen

1693
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: regular season schedule, so it sounds like, as of right now,

1694
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: if they find a way to fit Bills Bengals in,

1695
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: it'll be later on. And I think as of right now,

1696
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,799
Speaker 1: the league is planning on paying Patriots Bills on Sunday.

1697
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 1: And that's from the NFL. Okay, yeah, I think that is.

1698
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: I think that's the only real voice of action. I

1699
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, this morning we were talking, someone had put

1700
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: something out about the Bills and Bengals possibly playing within

1701
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: forty eight hours. I thought there was a zero percent

1702
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: chance of that. I just didn't think it made any sense.

1703
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: First and foremost emotionally for both teams. Both teams were

1704
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: on the field last night seeing that. Right, But then Wendy,

1705
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: you like, how do you then, if you just want

1706
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: to take the emotion and the humanity out of it,

1707
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,839
Speaker 1: how do you then ask them to play, say Wednesday

1708
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: or Thursday and then again on Sunday. It can't be

1709
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: concerned with player health and do that no period. Forget

1710
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: about you know, Hamlin's injury. If you're worried about player safety,

1711
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: you can't make them play like that. It's just it's

1712
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: not right because that's health. Yeah, that's a health issue.

1713
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: That's a mental right. This is this is not the

1714
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: type of game. You can do that. And they still

1715
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: have to decide. I have problems with the Thursday game,

1716
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know they're still gonna have

1717
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: to decide when the Bengals Ravens game was though, that

1718
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: was the one that was still TVD based on my

1719
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: guess is that will be four twenty five. Now that

1720
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: because I mean, you could go through all the different,

1721
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, permutations. I think that if Cincinnati had lost,

1722
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: then that takes them out of that They don't need

1723
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,919
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have needed to be in that window with Buffalo,

1724
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, And I

1725
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: think they probably wanted to be a four twenty five

1726
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: game just to add a four twenty five game to

1727
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: the mix. But who knows. But it's Sunday anyway. So

1728
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: the Bills just tweeted to mar Hamlin spent last night

1729
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: in the intensive care unit and remains there today in

1730
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: critical condition at University of Cincinnati Medical Center. We are

1731
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 1: grateful and thankful for the outpouring of support we have

1732
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: received us far. So he's still in critical According to Buffalo,

1733
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: all right, continuing with the buy or sell, Mac has

1734
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: more than fifteen touchdowns but throws at least ten interceptions.

1735
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 1: This is next the two for I will buy that.

1736
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: I'll buy that. If he doesn't, he's kind of like,

1737
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that, don't make it. Don't even get

1738
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: through all the all the way through the third year.

1739
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: If he doesn't throw fifteen touchdowns right by yourself. Paul

1740
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: and Fred get into several arguments about how the team

1741
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: is actually better than what was their record, that their

1742
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: record showed. Buying that's always a buy, and investing in

1743
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: the stock. You're bullish on put it in the market.

1744
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: Paul is just left. That was just gone. That was

1745
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: a great head nod though, But it's gonna the fridge.

1746
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: Um let's see Yemmy in Texas writes in last week,

1747
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 1: your discussion was about Derek Carr coming to the Patriots.

1748
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 1: But what if Josh McDaniels wants to trade for Mac Jones?

1749
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: Would you do it? Trade Derek Carr? Not with that? Not?

1750
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean what they pick up his option and then

1751
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: we take on a humongous Derek Carr contract and give

1752
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: the I wouldn't do it. I don't understand. I mean

1753
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 1: there was a time where I would, but not now

1754
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't done it right? Or what was he was? It?

1755
01:29:56,439 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 1: Was he a preagent? No? I forget he says I would.

1756
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Yummy says, I just don't think he's good enough. I'm

1757
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: also interested to see how he would do with more

1758
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: weapons than a better OC. So he's not good enough,

1759
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: but with better weapons than a good OC, he might

1760
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: be good enough. I just resigned never happened. I just

1761
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: pass on both. Sure, I just don't understand the Derek

1762
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: Carr thing. Like, to me, Derek Carr and Mac Jones

1763
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: are like the Spider Man, mean, where they're pointing at

1764
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 1: each other, and now we're going to take the more

1765
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: expensive older one. Yeah right, I just I think Derek

1766
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: Carr's has more physical talent than Mac. Whenever I watch

1767
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, I just think of vanilla ice cream, which

1768
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: just like this guy just doesn't add anything of any

1769
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: substance to the offense, right, Like, it's just if it's there,

1770
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: it's there. If it's not, it's not, and that in

1771
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: the play is over, which is like exactly how I

1772
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: feel about Max. So I just don't know, why would

1773
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: you take the thirty million dollar one at what like

1774
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: thirty two thirty three years old when you have the

1775
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars a year old one at four and

1776
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: a half million. Andrew and Lam says, you know about

1777
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: our earlier conversation about Mac, and you know who's two's

1778
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: to blame and all that. He says, geez, I really

1779
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 1: wish I could take as little accountability as Mac Jones

1780
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,879
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick have been asked to take in their careers.

1781
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: It's always another person's fault, and the media make sure

1782
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 1: you know it too. They all have their gestures in

1783
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: front of them, giving every reason in the book except

1784
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: that they're not good enough. Well, I don't know about it.

1785
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah not here, Yeah, I feel like to the show.

1786
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: I got that one to one of my friends. Um,

1787
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: let's see Shaddy in Houston. The reason most people are

1788
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: not too happy with Mack is his lack of leadership.

1789
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: It's been two full seasons we have not seen him

1790
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 1: lead the team himself to victories, minus that one fluke

1791
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: at Houston last year. He owes his defense for about

1792
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: ninety percent of his wins, and never once has he

1793
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: stepped up and returned the favor. All of this, to

1794
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: add with the mediocre talent and lack of ability to

1795
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: extend plays, means he'll never be a top ten quarterback. Well,

1796
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean, is is he talking about leadership or is

1797
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 1: he talking about win a game at the end that

1798
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: you were down? I mean he's talking about more, you know,

1799
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I think more of that, right, Like he wants to

1800
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: see a comeback win, and I mean, I don't know

1801
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 1: last week wasn't it, but it was in the vicinity

1802
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: of it. I mean he also did get last week.

1803
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 1: I mean he had he had a drive a touchdown

1804
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: drive at when they were winning well, but they needed

1805
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: it right ultimately, if you say so, I'm not trying to.

1806
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm pro defense here just for the record, but he

1807
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: did give him the lead in Vegas just saying twenty

1808
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: four seventeen. Did he? Yeah? I mean did he? I

1809
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: thought I thought the game when he touchdown was a

1810
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: forty yard run? How did it pick? How did we

1811
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: set up the forty yard run with a forty yard pass?

1812
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: So you know, is he did? Tom Brady never have

1813
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: a running game like I mean, if if if all

1814
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 1: we're doing for like this, like miracle comeback is like

1815
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: the defense scores a touchdown and then I can and

1816
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: I can score one touchdown and I can gotta come

1817
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: from behind win. He has about twelve of those who

1818
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: is credit if all you have to do is score

1819
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: a touchdown every week, because that's all you ever do.

1820
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: I just don't know. They don't. They do not score

1821
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: points when he's on the field. That's why people are

1822
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: questioning him. It's not that it's like, it's not that

1823
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: hard to crack the code. It's not why people are

1824
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: questioning him. Though. If that's why people were questioning him,

1825
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't have any problem with it. The reason

1826
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: why people are questioning him is because he doesn't look

1827
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: pretty playing football. You know why he doesn't look pretty

1828
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: playing football because they don't move said football into the

1829
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 1: end zone. No, it's the it's the Boomeris size and

1830
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: take that. That's why. It's because his body label had.

1831
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: I get it, and everybody's wrong. I'm not saying they

1832
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: don't move the ball. I'm saying that if that was

1833
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: everybody's if he didn't think the ball, people would put

1834
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: up with the doucinis. They did it. Think it's both

1835
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: for me, I don't like either part of that. David

1836
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 1: who hate it more than most David and Bethlehem. Why

1837
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: doesn't Mac get more time watching Stidham last week? It

1838
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: seemed he had better blocking protection. Oh my god, Stidham

1839
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: ran for his life in a whole game and at

1840
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: least a half a second more for long routes to develop. Unbelievable.

1841
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 1: Are badly run routes A big problem. As it seems

1842
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: to me both of the interceptions were the result of pressure.

1843
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 1: One got battered in his face and the other one

1844
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: he got hit as he threw. He ran around like

1845
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: he ran for the excuses. You know what I think

1846
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: of Stidham zero point zero. I just go back to

1847
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and I see Cam Newton getting charted out

1848
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 1: there every week after they're eliminated. I think it was

1849
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: coaching negligence not to find out if the backup quarterback

1850
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 1: that you drafted could play. I think, especially if that

1851
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: was negligent, Yeah, because it wasn't like Cam was going

1852
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: to be the long term answer. Yeah, that whole thing.

1853
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 1: That's another one where hopefully someday we'll find out what

1854
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: was going on that year with Cam because Bill was

1855
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: so over the top protective of Cam. Cam was so

1856
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: over the top protective of Belichick. Yeah, I mean I

1857
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: don't think that's another That's another one that's not the

1858
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Da Vinci code. Yeah. Well, I mean, do you think

1859
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: how much of it reflects on Stidham? I mean, how

1860
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: Bill felt about Stidham the injury. I mean, maybe they

1861
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: just didn't maybe they hated and that's why the Derek

1862
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: carthing is so weird because McDaniels was had no issue.

1863
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: Maybe McDaniels was like, can we just give him a chance.

1864
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's approach this for a second, because I

1865
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: think it's really interesting. Now, maybe I'm a thousand percent wrong.

1866
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: Maybe Stidham's good, Maybe he can play a little. How

1867
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: would you feel if he ended up being say Jimmy

1868
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: Garoppolo or Kirk Cousins for the next five years? Test

1869
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: And don't you think that Bill should be like roundly

1870
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 1: criticized for that? Because the audacity to go to a

1871
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 1: wedding in the off season, that's supposedly why he fell

1872
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: out of favor here. That's what I mean. Is there

1873
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 1: something stupid? Does that sound like a sound reason to

1874
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 1: give up on a draft pick? No, he's not tough enough,

1875
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: he won't condum it at, he won't compete for the job. Hit,

1876
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: he won't compete for the job, like, yeah, which is

1877
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of him? The trade compensation is what

1878
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: I would second guess. More than anything, I think all

1879
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 1: of it's worth second guessing. He was healthy enough to

1880
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: be on the field in twenty twenty. You were eliminated

1881
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't play him. What if he did what

1882
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 1: he did on Sunday for the last Now do you

1883
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,719
Speaker 1: go into the next season and like, do you pass

1884
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 1: on mac Jones in the first round because of that?

1885
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Like something to think about. Well, maybe I don't have

1886
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback because if I don't really love

1887
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback, I have one that played three good games

1888
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: for me. I guess I don't know. I just now

1889
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,759
Speaker 1: again and I are coming from the spot with Stidham,

1890
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: we don't believe it. Let's let's let's play that through.

1891
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: Let's just say that you can't. You kept Stidham and

1892
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: you still drafted back. Everything else happened the same way,

1893
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 1: but instead of bringing in Bailey Zappy, you're bringing in

1894
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Jared stidm Maybe now you have more of a tendency

1895
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: to stick with Stidham, you know, I just don't know.

1896
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: I think that if he came into that season in

1897
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and played well at the end of the year,

1898
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: and then you put any stock into that one, and

1899
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: I agree that they should have played him. I'm not saying,

1900
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: but talked. If they if they put any stock into that,

1901
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: then I think you're doing yourself a disservice honestly, because

1902
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: we probably would have gone into that year with like

1903
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: Stidham and maybe like Davis Mills on the roster. And

1904
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: if you had Davis Mills, then I guess I can

1905
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 1: talk myself into it, and at least you addressed it.

1906
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 1: But I think you're just kicking the can down the

1907
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: road of eventually taking a corner. More than likely, Yeah,

1908
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: more than likely, Stidham at best would be a bridge

1909
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: guy right now, I personally think that's what you have.

1910
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: So again I'm going to open up the possibility that

1911
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 1: I'm wrong and Stidham is better than that, and you

1912
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: missed out on an opportunity for what, Like what did

1913
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: you have to lose? Like you just decided you didn't

1914
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: like it because you compete the way you think. I

1915
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: go back to this strange relationship with Bill and Cam

1916
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: like you know Bill, Like I don't know if it

1917
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 1: was an agreement like while I'm here, I'm going to

1918
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 1: be the starter or whatever, but Bill protected his ego

1919
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: like I've never seen him do for any other player. Now, yeah,

1920
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: if Stidham ends up being what you and I kind

1921
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 1: of think he is, yeah, you know, maybe Mackish at best,

1922
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: at best. Yeah, you know, maybe not even as good

1923
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 1: as Mack. Then what's the difference? Who cares right now?

1924
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 1: You know? But like, what if he's good? I just

1925
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 1: think it signs a light too on Josh clearly like

1926
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham, right, he brought him to the Raiders. He

1927
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 1: was willing him to give a shot. Now what was

1928
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: what was his relationship like with Cam and what's Bill?

1929
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: And I always think of that as I think that's

1930
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 1: good business for a coach who goes somewhere. If you

1931
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to get like a backup quarterback that

1932
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 1: knows your system, that's a that's that's good business. Like

1933
01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: you need to have a guy, right, you know, the quarterback.

1934
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: The quarterback knows you a system. It's like a basketball

1935
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: coach that has, you know, like a specific big system

1936
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,560
Speaker 1: and he gets his point guard, like, you know, I

1937
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: know he can run my offense. Right, I think that

1938
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: makes sense. But again I'm just saying, what if remote

1939
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 1: possibility here? I know this rarely happens, But what if

1940
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm wrong and Stidham is really good, Like, no one's

1941
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: gonna look at that any different way. He was on

1942
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: the team for a couple of years and you wouldn't

1943
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 1: give him a chance because Cam Newton had a play.

1944
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: It's also in that camp, which was a bizarre camp

1945
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 1: because it was the middle of COVID, But I was

1946
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: lucky enough to watch most of those practice practices and

1947
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 1: the best thrower of the football on that camp was Jared'stidham. Like,

1948
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: and that's not like going out on a limb like.

1949
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Cam Newton didn't throw the ball well all year. So

1950
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 1: the best thrower in camp was was Jared'stidham. But towards

1951
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: the end of camp, especially once they got pads on

1952
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: and they were really starting to you could see the

1953
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 1: run game advantages to playing Cam. And that's sort of

1954
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 1: when the offense you were like, Okay, I mean this

1955
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be good, but there's a method here right,

1956
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 1: Like there there's the fact that they gave Cam a shot.

1957
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem, right. I was very excited

1958
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 1: when they got Cam. Fred will tell you, oh yeah,

1959
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: all like they just signed Cam Newton's Fred Fred called

1960
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: me on a Sunday night in July and I was like,

1961
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, normally July, what am I doing. I'm on

1962
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 1: the deck, I'm drinking. Yeah, I was jacked up. I'm

1963
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 1: writing like analysis piece on Cam Newton coming and Kim

1964
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: we never get guys like that gave him he was done.

1965
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: We add at that point though, were we really like

1966
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: in June being like I think it was like I

1967
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: think it was the end of that was the end

1968
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 1: of June, beginning of July. Yeah, but but we got

1969
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: we got to like it was a late point in

1970
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: the off season when the majority of team building were

1971
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 1: done and we're really like it was its Jared Stidham

1972
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: and then he went to a wedding, aren't we There's

1973
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: a dark place. I do still watch the news that

1974
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 1: was it that Eric was on vacation. That was the

1975
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: origin of that quote. Eric was on vacation and we

1976
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: had a big debate as to whether or not Eric

1977
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: knew that we signed Cam Newton when he came back.

1978
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 1: Was it going to be news to him. I remember

1979
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the camp too, a lot of

1980
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 1: us that were there at those practices were having discussions

1981
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 1: of like, could they college quarterback this and have Cam

1982
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 1: like a Cam run package and j you know, not

1983
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: the platoon that we saw against Chicago, but like a

1984
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 1: situational you know, this is our passing quarterback. This is

1985
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: our running quarterback, because it really it wasn't like Jared

1986
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: Sidon was throwing the ball over the yard, Don't get

1987
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 1: me wrong, but it was. He was definitely the better

1988
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 1: passer out of the two spin Fresno Again, how many

1989
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: of Max's so called big time throws boys are born

1990
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 1: out of necessity or desperation as opposed to opportunities or

1991
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 1: favorable matchups. I wonder if for Mac relative to Rogers,

1992
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: those shots are more likely to come on third or

1993
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 1: fourth in too long Well, his two big time throws

1994
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday were the one to Hunter Henry which was

1995
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: third and six, and the one to Jakobe Myers, which

1996
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 1: was third in medium as well. So I don't know

1997
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: they weren't They weren't desperation on Sunday. I think there

1998
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 1: have been some that he hit, like like Miami the

1999
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 1: Game of the Year. We threw a bomb to Bourne

2000
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: about you know they're bound a million points In the

2001
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 1: four four against Cincinnati, they went along the sideline to

2002
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 1: burn the seams, splitter to Bourne, the touchdown to Bourne,

2003
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: Borne Born Kristen and Houston. How many of these quarterbacks

2004
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: would you say performed as well? Or better than Mac

2005
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: this week. Josh Dobbs, he did not play as well.

2006
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 1: David Blow he played pretty well. Teddy Bridgewater off, No

2007
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 1: Bridgewater well, No Gardner, Minshew terrible, Brock Purdy, he played

2008
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: better than Matt Jarrett Stidham. He played better than Tyler Huntley. No.

2009
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 1: I don't mean this to be as an indictment on

2010
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 1: Mac per se. If anything, I'm frustrated that other teams

2011
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: offenses can still resemble NFL offenses with backups when ours

2012
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: looks like Foxboro High with a starter. I don't think

2013
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: all of those offenses looked like NFL offenses that you

2014
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 1: just rattled off. Tennessee, Philadelphia, Baltimore. Those didn't looked like

2015
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: anything but NFL offenses. Miami didn't look like an NFL

2016
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: offense with their backup quarterback. Yeah, chat Atlanta. I haven't

2017
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 1: seen any updates on Jonathan Jones and his injury in

2018
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins game, or Marcus Jones. And what about Jack Jones.

2019
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 1: If Jonathan Jones can't go, could Jack Jones play? Jack

2020
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: Jones is out for the year. I I know a

2021
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: lot of people, including myself, were very high on Jack

2022
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 1: Jones in general. Are we missing him? In the secondary

2023
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 1: or was he good enough yet to be missed. We're

2024
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: talking about Marcus Jones, Jack Jack Jones definitely missed him

2025
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he's played

2026
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: very well, but I mean, you certainly miss missed the

2027
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: depth and you had to take two guys off the

2028
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 1: practice squad. So would'd rather have Jack Jones than helped

2029
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 1: me out? Tyesyes, I was gonna go Davis, so I'm

2030
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: glad I asked her help from the ground, Tayes. Actually,

2031
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he played like he's a good player,

2032
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 1: because I have no idea he played twenty four snaps,

2033
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 1: but he had a pretty good feel for what they

2034
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: were doing defensively in a game where they did use

2035
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: some game planned wrinkle calls. So I was impressed by

2036
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: the fact that he absorbed as much information as he

2037
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: did in a short period of time. So I want

2038
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 1: to give him credit for that. Okay. Eric writes in

2039
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: Long time Listener, First time Emailer. One thing I haven't

2040
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: seen mentioned too much is how the Patriots would not

2041
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: have made the playoffs last year if not for adding

2042
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 1: the seventh seed. Maybe it's stupid to talk about hypothetical scenarios.

2043
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: That's true. It was a sixth seed last year. Yeah,

2044
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: since if you change one thing, it will change other things.

2045
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,759
Speaker 1: But how do you think your view of the Patriots

2046
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: over the last couple of seasons would change if not

2047
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 1: for expanding the playoffs. Yeah, I think the expanding of

2048
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 1: the playoffs is an issue. But I think last year,

2049
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, it was the Raiders were five,

2050
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: the Patriots were six, and the Steelers was seven. Yeah,

2051
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 1: I meant were six. I mean, I know people don't

2052
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 1: like the seventh team. Now get ready for eight because

2053
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: that's where they're going, right, Isn't it makes sense that

2054
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna have eight with no buzz or two with

2055
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 1: no buzz buzz. Well, I think what was interesting was

2056
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,879
Speaker 1: that a lot of these games, even this past Sunday,

2057
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 1: because if this was, you know, not it was sixteen playoff,

2058
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: the AFC has already decided besides the AFC South. So

2059
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 1: all these games that mattered this past week only mattered

2060
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 1: because of the seventh seed. Right, So in that respect,

2061
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: it did add at least some meaningful games at the

2062
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: end of the year for more teams. That's exactly how

2063
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,600
Speaker 1: I wrote it in the notes It definitely worked in

2064
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: terms of keeping more teams alive, but I think it's

2065
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 1: hard to call it a success when they're all eight

2066
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 1: and nine to nine and eight, Like, I don't think

2067
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,600
Speaker 1: those teams belong in the playoffs. And we'll see, Like

2068
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: if the Patriots end up being the seventh seed and

2069
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 1: we end up going to Cincinnati or Buffalo for and

2070
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 1: they lose like they did last year, then I think

2071
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: we can say, Okay, this is not competitive. If the

2072
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 1: seventh seeds battle a little bit, then maybe we have

2073
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: a different conversation. I don't know, Yeah, I mean I

2074
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: would look at it as it's a one off. I mean,

2075
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: anybody can upset somebody on a given week and it

2076
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 1: could happen. Like I wouldn't completely dismiss I didn't dismiss

2077
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 1: the Patriot's chances going into that playoff game last year, right,

2078
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: I didn't say going into I'm not going to be

2079
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 1: a fraud and say that. I went into that game

2080
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: saying there's no chance. I didn't think they would win,

2081
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 1: but you know, upsets happen. L from Wisconsin. I gotta

2082
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: call out Evan here. Well, sure he's not sold on Mac,

2083
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 1: but the way he talks about Mac. It's clear he's

2084
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of Mac guy. If it wasn't for

2085
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: the system, Mac would be on his way to the

2086
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,640
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And everyone who doesn't like Mac is an

2087
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: idiot who just doesn't like him and isn't watching the games.

2088
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I'll admit to one thing that what's the comportment? You

2089
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: don't know what comportment is? How you handle yourself. I

2090
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 1: knew what comportment was. I just wanted to make sure

2091
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 1: that we got that in there. That again it is.

2092
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:55,759
Speaker 1: But again, a lot of people didn't like his comportment,

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01:46:55,880 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 1: but they got they got past it. I just, okay,

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01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 1: I lay down my sword on this one. I can't.

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01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:05,600
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't think you said that they go

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01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: into the super Bowl with if they had another systems. No,

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01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of it. I said

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01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 1: that I would like to see Mac in a better

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01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: system so I can decide whether or not I truly

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01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: think he's the guy, because right now I think that

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01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of broken things going on around him

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01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: that are making it difficult for me to actually make

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01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: a full evaluation. And I'm not going to just evaluate

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01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: him on his rookie season because he was a rookie.

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01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 1: So in year three, if he's got Bill O'Brien as

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01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator and he looks like he did this year,

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01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: then we're all going to be a team. Let's let's

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01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 1: find something better. Let's move on. So let's um, what

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01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 1: if what if it's not Bill O'Brien, what if it's

2110
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: cliss No, what if it stays the same? Does he

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01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: get another pass? If it stays the same, does a

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01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: personnel stay the same or do they upgrade the personnel? Well,

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01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 1: they're not going to have the same players, but right,

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01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: And I'll leave that to your interpretation as to whether

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01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: or not's an upgrade, because I could I'm sure I

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01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: could get a Paul fred argument like, no, no, he's

2117
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: better than him. No, No, he's better than that. Now No,

2118
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,799
Speaker 1: not Myers is better. No, Like they're gonna have different receivers.

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01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: But if it's the same structure and Matt Patricia's the

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01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and clearly Bill expects him to be better,

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01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:19,719
Speaker 1: it's so hard to judge because you're taking a quarterback

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01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: who's never done in the NFL and an OC who's

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01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: never done it in the NFL, and you're trying to

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01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: make a judgment and it's like, oh, you know, never

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01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 1: done it. Huh, So his whole rookie year doesn't count

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01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,679
Speaker 1: at all? Not really, I mean, okay, yeah, I would

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01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: say in your hypothetical way, like professors, Lord help us

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01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: all if that ends up being the case. But in

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01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:45,759
Speaker 1: that hypothetical I would say, next year, I don't necessarily

2130
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: need to see him like the World on Fire with

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01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, but I would like to see I think

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01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 1: this year with one of his biggest issues that he's

2133
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 1: had is that right out of the gate, he allowed

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01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: this become bigger than it needed to be. That's my problem, right,

2135
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 1: that's they never even tried Next year, if it's the

2136
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 1: same thing and they say, listen, Mac, like this is

2137
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Get on board or don't get on board,

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01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: and that's a tipping. I give him one year to

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01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 1: be frustrated with it. Next year, I think that you

2140
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: have to get to the point. And I would say

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01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: that it's mainly because contractually they have to make a

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01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: decision on his fifth year option and they have to

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01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: sort of make a decision on his future. So this

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01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: is what we're If that's what we're left with, then yeah,

2145
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 1: then year three is still to me a tipping point,

2146
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: but I would ultimately put the blame at the top

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01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: that they put him into situation to fail. What's more

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01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 1: important to do next year in order to make a judgment,

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01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 1: change the OC or make the old line a lot better?

2150
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: Why not both? But what's more important they'll see? I'd

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01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: say the OC as well. Really yeah, because I think

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01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: if on the offensive line question, they've gotten away with

2153
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to call it lesser talent because I

2154
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,759
Speaker 1: hate that argument, but they've gotten away with like guys

2155
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: that are not first round picks on the line and

2156
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: Dante just coached them up right, So I think that

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01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: there's an element with the line, especially that if you

2158
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: just got five guys that are playing on a string,

2159
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: then they can block a lot better than you know,

2160
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 1: maybe their draft status. When you do your things on

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01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 1: the big time throws, where did those come from? What

2162
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 1: do you mean does and how do they How does

2163
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,560
Speaker 1: PF have the Patriots offensive line ranked and comparative to

2164
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 1: the league? Um? Number one? I believe it's five. So

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01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 1: I've had this argument with the guy that writes that

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01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: article because he's not watching the Patriots play, and I, uh,

2167
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 1: what watch. I'm very consistent. Yeah, so I don't those

2168
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 1: articles are are they have like preseason rankings, and it's

2169
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 1: like very difficult to move. I know what you're saying

2170
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 1: up and down exactly what you're saying is happening. I

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01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: don't know where, Paul, Yeah, I don't know where they

2172
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,240
Speaker 1: have them exactly, but I know where I have them,

2173
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 1: and that is that. I don't think. I don't think

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01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,600
Speaker 1: the line's been great. I don't think line play in

2175
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 1: general is great around the league. That's fair. I think,

2176
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, they're a handful of teams that have really

2177
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 1: good offensive lines. I think the Eagles are one. I

2178
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 1: think we saw a couple in games with the Patriots

2179
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 1: one and blowouts. Cleveland and Detroit. I think both have

2180
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: pretty good offensive lines. But I see a lot of

2181
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 1: teams with terrible offensive Dallas is I mean Tyrant Smith's

2182
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 1: back and they moved him to write tackle, which was

2183
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 1: a lot of injury. Not to go down this rabbit hole,

2184
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys drafted Tyler Smith out of Tulsa in

2185
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: the first round and he's played guard and tackle for

2186
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 1: them this year and he's a stud. Yeah, And the

2187
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:45,560
Speaker 1: Patriots were on the clock in the first round and

2188
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 1: traded out of the pick to move down to draft

2189
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 1: Cole Strange. And now Tyler Smith might be a rookie

2190
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,560
Speaker 1: pro bowler. And I know earlier in the season. I

2191
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: don't know what he's had for because I don't care.

2192
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 1: But Zion Johnson played reasonably well for a while too,

2193
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: especially when Slater went out. Yeah for the Chargers. Yeah.

2194
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: Now he was drafted before, right, so they would have

2195
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 1: had to trade up to get him. Yeah, but Tyler

2196
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: instead of trading back. Right, if you're targeting a guard,

2197
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 1: don't you say that doesn't matter? Whatever guard we get

2198
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 1: will take right they I mean Tyler Smith was staring

2199
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: at him in the face, right, like he was on

2200
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: the board while they were on the clock. Yeah, um,

2201
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 1: getting ready to take a tackle next Wan in Mexico.

2202
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 1: The Ohio state guy's name Paris Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. My

2203
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers for them, for Hamlin and his family.

2204
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 1: Hope he can pull through before this uncertainty in the

2205
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: NFL season, When they released the time slots for Week

2206
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 1: eighteen games, did they try to make it the worst

2207
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: possible scenario? How do you put the Lions and Packers

2208
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: in Sunday Night football where it is possible one of

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01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: them is eliminated already. I don't even I don't know

2210
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 1: if that's true. One I don't think. I think that's

2211
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: a oh Detroit to get eliminated if Seattle wins. Oh

2212
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,919
Speaker 1: they could, Yeah, Okay, they just want a Rodgerson primetime.

2213
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 1: But it is I think this, the whole Saturday thing

2214
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: has introduced a layer that they didn't want. They wanted

2215
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: to really, I agree with the emailer's point because he

2216
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: conveniently leaves out the part that benefited the Patriots with that.

2217
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: But I thought the whole goal of this sort of

2218
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 1: shift to division games late in the year for everybody,

2219
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 1: was to ensure the competitive nature of these games and

2220
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 1: try to eliminate some teams not having anything to play

2221
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: for and not knowing your fate before you took the field.

2222
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 1: And yet here we are with Kansas City. Now, the

2223
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 1: whole thing that happened last night throws a monkey wrench

2224
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 1: in this. But if if everything played out, Kansas City

2225
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 1: would have had If Buffalo played last night and lost,

2226
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 1: Kansas City could play Saturday and clinch the number one seed.

2227
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,560
Speaker 1: So Buffalo would have had no number one seed to

2228
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 1: play for. Now You could argue they'd still play hard

2229
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 1: because they want to play two or three or whatever,

2230
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: But that's up to Sean McDermott. Now he's not gonna

2231
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 1: dump when the when a win is a buy in

2232
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 1: a loss is not a buy. No one dumps in

2233
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 1: that situation. So the NFL and the email is right Detroit.

2234
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: If Seattle wins, Detroit's out because Detroit needs to beat

2235
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 1: Green Bay and have Seattle lose. So what about what

2236
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 1: about just Packers needing the game to get in? Yeah?

2237
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 1: I know, but if the other team's not playing hard,

2238
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 1: that's what they're looking to avoid. So all you had

2239
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 1: to do was have the Packers play Detroit on Saturday

2240
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 1: night and have the Tennessee Jacksonville game, which is Alton

2241
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: no matter what that's for the AFC side, right, I

2242
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: can't believe that's not the same, which like it's not

2243
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 1: that hard, that makes sense. I just don't understand. Why

2244
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 1: is the AFC South Championship not the Sunday night game,

2245
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 1: Like that's how it's always been, right, Like right, I remember,

2246
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 1: you know the NFC East used to have game like

2247
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: that where both teams were not very like middle teams.

2248
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 1: Winner goes the loser goes right. It was like Giants

2249
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys or Giants Eagles or something like that. And they

2250
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 1: used to play it on Sunday night, is the NFC

2251
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 1: East Championship game. And it's almost like they looked at

2252
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 1: it and they said, well, Jacksonville, if you know, if

2253
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Miami in New England and Pittsburgh goll lose and Jet,

2254
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 1: the game doesn't mean anything to Jacksonville because they're in

2255
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 1: either way. But there's still game. They're still yeah, of

2256
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: course they're still gonna try to win the game, Yeah,

2257
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 1: because they want to win the division. Like, I don't

2258
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: think that was a hard fix. You could have You

2259
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 1: could have made it so both of those games were

2260
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 1: competitive for both teams just by flip flop in twenty

2261
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 1: four hours and they didn't do it. All right, that's

2262
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 1: gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll

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01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow at noon. Hopefully we'll have some good

2264
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: news to share um about Hamlin's condition, but you know,

2265
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: we'll wait and see. But the news right now that

2266
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 1: we can't give you is that they will not be

2267
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: playing that game this week anyway. And you know, if

2268
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 1: there's no word about our game on Sunday, but they

2269
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: will not be playing the Bengals Bills game this week. Well,

2270
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 1: let's say the week eighteen. What did it say about

2271
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: it unaffected? Yeah right now, yeah, it's unaffected Sunday at

2272
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 1: one for us, but um all right, um, so stay

2273
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 1: tuned at Patriots dot com for any other updates, and

2274
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:30,520
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