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Speaker 2: and I think there is a place for that. You know,

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Speaker 2: we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I also find it funny when people say shit like

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Speaker 3: I would never vote for Kamala Harris. She make a

444
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Speaker 3: good attorney general, though, I'm like, no, if you think

445
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Speaker 3: she's a piece of shit that that is gonna use

446
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Speaker 3: her power to unfairly incarcerate black people for no reason.

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Speaker 2: I really don't understand why you want hear in any

448
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Speaker 2: position of power. You can't cherry pick.

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Speaker 3: That shit r and put her and be like, now

450
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Speaker 3: you're the biggest you're the top cop in the world.

451
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Speaker 3: Because we don't want you as president, but we do

452
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Speaker 3: want you as AG. Then you're either lying about how

453
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Speaker 3: you feel about her in these debates and then her

454
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Speaker 3: in her candidacy, or you're lying about what you would

455
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Speaker 3: like to see her do, because that doesn't compute.

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Speaker 2: So I wish people would make up their minds about that.

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Speaker 3: Every time I see somebody that hates Kamala Harris but

458
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Speaker 3: then wants her to be a g I'm like, what

459
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Speaker 3: the fuck is.

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Speaker 2: Your math on that shit?

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Speaker 5: That doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: I'm not in for the record, I don't debate these

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Speaker 2: things with folks. I just think it's stupid, and.

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Speaker 3: Then I moved the fuck on. I'm no longer engaging

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Speaker 3: in these fucking back and forth. I said I wasn't

466
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Speaker 3: going to and I haven't been doing it.

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Speaker 5: Else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and those people, they are inexhaustible. They stay online

469
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Speaker 3: and argue about these candidates.

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Speaker 2: All got them at that.

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Speaker 3: It's just not I don't know, you gotta find something

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Speaker 3: better to do. Episode nineteen eighteen, do they have toilets?

473
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Speaker 3: That story about that dude that was clogging on toilets?

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Speaker 3: We got four comments. Let's see what we got here.

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Speaker 3: I got a long one from Sandler. Agoney says, I'm

476
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Speaker 3: really glad y'all brought up the stuff regarding immigration Nancy

477
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Speaker 3: Pelosi and AOC since she's been bugging me on Twitter

478
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Speaker 3: from liberals that keep doing this where they shot on

479
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Speaker 3: the high profile house member like Pelosi but won't put

480
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Speaker 3: the same anger to Mitch McConnell and other members of

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Speaker 3: the GOLP.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've noticed that too. I don't know, I don't

483
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Speaker 2: know how, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I guess they've given up on those Republican politicians to

485
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Speaker 3: a point where but they're still angry and then they

486
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Speaker 3: focus all their anger on the top of the Democratic.

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Speaker 2: Lawmakers.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time it's like y'all know that

489
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Speaker 3: they don't have the strength and the numbers because we

490
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Speaker 3: didn't put enough people in Congress and the Senate over

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Speaker 3: the past like six to eight years correct to give

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Speaker 3: them the majority they would need to be this force

493
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Speaker 3: that y'all claim they should be, you know, and I

494
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Speaker 3: just don't think. I don't know, Like I just try

495
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Speaker 3: to not engage in those conversations because I just find

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Speaker 3: those people to be wholly irrational. It's like I ask, yeah,

497
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Speaker 3: like I feel a certain way, and the way I

498
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Speaker 3: feel should become law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like make this happen.

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Speaker 3: And it's like they don't have the tunes to make

501
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Speaker 3: the things happen that you claim you want to see,

502
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: and then you're blaming them, but they don't. They literally

503
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: don't have it. They can't do it or the things

504
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Speaker 3: you want them to do. They're telling you this won't

505
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Speaker 3: work how you think is gonna go, and they and

506
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Speaker 3: people are like, well, fucking do it anyway.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know. I can see at least

508
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Speaker 2: that's the way I see it is that they feel frustrated.

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Speaker 3: They attack the Democrats rather than to be like yo,

510
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Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham like, these are the people they

511
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Speaker 3: need to go, These are people we.

512
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Speaker 2: Need to target.

513
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Speaker 3: They're like, no, let's target the Democrats. It's like, well, okay,

514
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Speaker 3: let let's be honest. Let's say you get all those

515
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Speaker 3: justice Dems that want to be in there, the people

516
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Speaker 3: that are targeting other Democrats that aren't progressive enough, they

517
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Speaker 3: want to like, you know, get them out of the

518
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Speaker 3: out of Congress and Senate. Okay, let's say you get

519
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Speaker 3: every last one of those seats. What are y'all gonna

520
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Speaker 3: do because y'all still have the minority. So y'all, now

521
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Speaker 3: y'all have the seats, and it's like, but what are

522
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Speaker 3: y'all gonna do different y'all because because the numbers game

523
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: is still the numbers, you don't have the majority. You

524
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Speaker 3: your whole thing is we refuse to compromise and work

525
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Speaker 3: with Republicans. Cool, I can get behind that. What are

526
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Speaker 3: you gonna do then? Because you're just gonna be the

527
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Speaker 3: party of as obstinates, but without the numbers to actually

528
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Speaker 3: stop shit.

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Speaker 2: The way that the GOP had under Obama right there was.

530
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Speaker 1: Like we're not gonna do nothing, and we got to

531
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Speaker 1: number to stop you, and we got to numbers to.

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Speaker 5: Supersed you your thing unless you do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, and I think they don't like having these

534
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Speaker 3: conversations because you know, I'm a pragmatist, but they don't

535
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Speaker 3: like having these conversations because that's the only thing that

536
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Speaker 3: matters to me. And and I'm like, yeah, you'll get

537
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Speaker 3: more ranting and raving and Twitter talking points, but.

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Speaker 2: Will you actually change anything? That's the question. And I

539
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Speaker 2: don't think.

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Speaker 3: I think they're frustrated by the idea that they feel

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Speaker 3: like you're dismissing their ideas by being like, what would

542
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Speaker 3: I have the numbers?

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Speaker 2: These ideas won't happen. They're like, oh, so you think

544
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Speaker 2: this is a bad idea. No, I don't.

545
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: I don't think the Green New Deal is a bad idea.

546
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: I don't think raising minimum way. I don't think any

547
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Speaker 3: of this shit is a bad idea. I'm just saying

548
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Speaker 3: you can't be a you can't be with even within

549
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: the party, like the when you call it the insurgency,

550
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: you can't be the outsiders and then be like, why

551
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 3: aren't we the mainstream? Like you're you're playing the role

552
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Speaker 3: of the agitator. So when you're asking why you don't

553
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Speaker 3: have to support. Why are the people fighting against you?

554
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: Why are the other like your coworkers that you keep

555
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: roasting on Twitter every day? Why they don't fuck with you.

556
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: That's why you're the agitator. That's the role you chose

557
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: to play. Honestly, I have all the lost respect from

558
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Speaker 3: the people who write this shit for a living, accusing

559
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: THEMS of not doing something or taking too long when

560
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: policy initiatives take a while to get through the House

561
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Speaker 3: and the Senate. All of this just reminds me of

562
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Speaker 3: how they bitch them all about Barack Obama not doing

563
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 3: shit when all the dude did was get shited done.

564
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Speaker 2: But I guess that's not good enough.

565
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: Every day, every week, every month says Trump shit getting

566
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Speaker 3: found out this year with all the subpoenas and meetings

567
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Speaker 3: that Dems have had in the House, and motherfuckers have

568
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: been chanting impeachment like a goddamn football game. These people

569
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: carry water for the resistance TM. Motherfuckers, who are no

570
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: different than the African descendants of slave and Russian bots

571
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: can kick all the rocks because it's like y'all are

572
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: willing to get your hopes up on something that will

573
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: not change the views of Trump voters who wanted these

574
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Speaker 3: black and brown kids in these camps. A photo, a

575
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Speaker 3: photo op by AOC, national TV coverage of Trump on trial,

576
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Speaker 3: or any Democratic politician going to in the tournament camp

577
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: will change the shit. Cut will change shit because the

578
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: American public sucks and has sucked for fucking ever. I

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Speaker 3: guess he means won't change his shit. Yeah, And that's

580
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Speaker 3: that's the thing I keep coming to, is like they

581
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Speaker 3: and let me just say that there's a value to

582
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Speaker 3: our right, there's a value to looking a certain way,

583
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: Swaying hearts and minds definitely matters. But there's a certain

584
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: cynicalness to the game that they're playing where I'm like,

585
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 3: it's all optics in a way that.

586
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Speaker 2: Hmm, I'm trying to think of the best way to

587
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: put it. It's like it's it's like, uh, it's like

588
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: AOC and that crew get.

589
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Speaker 3: Like the benefit of the doubt that they claim other

590
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Speaker 3: politicians shouldn't get from.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people. I think that's what it is.

592
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Speaker 3: It's like the same people that say, like everybody is pandering,

593
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Speaker 3: get these old people out of Congress.

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Speaker 2: You know, Uh, they're you know, they're just saying things

595
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Speaker 2: they don't mean it.

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Speaker 3: They like, you know, there's people that are like so

597
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: in the bag for aoc in them, but they're the

598
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: same people that claim everyone's in the bag for these

599
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Speaker 3: other politicians. And really it's y'all that just believe in

600
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: these mother It's like nobody was sitting around like I

601
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: worshiped Nancy Pelosi. I really just believe anything she said. Like,

602
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: I don't find it to be that way. I find

603
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: people to be like, I'm a pragmatist. We don't have

604
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: the numbers to do all the shit, so we have

605
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: to start finding ways to get some relief under this

606
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: administration rather than none at all.

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Speaker 1: And my thing is this, if they keep getting elected

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Speaker 1: and stay there long enough, one day they're gonna be

609
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Speaker 1: the old heads and you're gonna have another generation's gonna

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Speaker 1: come up and tell you you ain't shit.

611
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Speaker 2: Yeah it's well, I guess what's interesting to me too,

612
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: is like if Nancy.

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Speaker 3: Pelosi goes to visit the border whatever facilities, man, you know,

614
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: them saying people ain't gonna be like, well she went

615
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Speaker 3: down there. This is what I'm talking about. And it's

616
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Speaker 3: like I said, I respect the game, I respect the hustle,

617
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Speaker 3: I respect the savvy of like AOC and those folks.

618
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Speaker 3: But if you don't see the game that is being played,

619
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Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you they're smart. Like

620
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Speaker 3: like I think people it's you know, it's like when

621
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Speaker 3: people look at Cardi B and be like, oh my god,

622
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Speaker 3: she said she would like ray, she wouldn't mind paying higher.

623
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Speaker 2: Taxes if it would help out public schools.

624
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, and then people go, oh my god,

625
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Speaker 3: to run around like she just fucking like saw the

626
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Speaker 3: realers cute And I'm like, what, dog, do y'all actually

627
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Speaker 3: think she's stupid?

628
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Speaker 2: Is that what's happening?

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Speaker 3: Because I don't think she's stupid, So I guess for

630
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Speaker 3: me seeing that, I'm not like, oh I stand a queen, Like,

631
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Speaker 3: I'm just like, yes, that's like, that's a reasonable take

632
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Speaker 3: on that. That's dope, you know, all the good shit.

633
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: But it but it wasn't like how did that dog

634
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Speaker 3: read a book? Like it wasn't like that to me.

635
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Speaker 3: But sometimes like the overreaction to some of the shit

636
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: you can see like y'all don't actually see this person

637
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Speaker 3: as like a.

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Speaker 2: Savvy, intelligent person and respect what they're doing.

639
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't actually see them as a dynamic person

640
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: because you're so easily impressed. And that's kind of the

641
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: thing with Alc and whatnot for me is that people

642
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: seem to be super easily impressed with some of the

643
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: stuff that she does or they you know, that crew does,

644
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: and I'm like, but tangibly, it doesn't change anything more

645
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: than what Pelosi just did or what Schumer's doing.

646
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: Like, it doesn't actually do anything.

647
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: It tweets better, it goes viral better, which is why

648
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: I say they're savvy, but it.

649
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: Doesn't actually change anything. You can propose a.

650
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Speaker 3: Green New Deal and it can have a bunch of

651
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: great ideas, but if you don't have the numbers or

652
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: the coalition to pass it, it doesn't matter. Bernie Sanders

653
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: is very much this politician for a long period of

654
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: his career, if not well really all his career. But

655
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Speaker 3: he proposed things normally, couldn't get them passed, normally, didn't

656
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Speaker 3: have the numbers, and then he would go, well, look

657
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: it's Democrats that are the problem. Is Republicans that are

658
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: a problem. I had a plan outroughs DA da da. Yeah,

659
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: but you don't work with anyone. You chastasee your folks

660
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: in public, You don't want to join the Democrats, like

661
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: you have made yourself the outsider who is better than

662
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: every anyone else, but because of that, you can't get

663
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: shit done. So you know, That's what I find to

664
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: be like kind of kind of frustrating to see people

665
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: like fall for this shit hook's line and sinker but

666
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: then be like, I can't hilly clanting with hot sauce

667
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: in the bag. I'm like, Nigga, it's the same shit

668
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: if you you know, I mean, I know that's a

669
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: bad example because Hillary does love hot sauce. But you

670
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like you claim one is pandering

671
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: because you're super woke, but this other shit not pandering.

672
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: It's all pandering.

673
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: It's all bullshit, right, Like they're not passing policies, they're

674
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: taking photo ops and posting you know what I'm saying,

675
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: like posting shit online, like tweeting it, folks. That's and

676
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: I think it's because with Twitter and stuff, it makes

677
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: you feel like, you know, folks, and it's like they're

678
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: doing the things that we're used to seeing other people do.

679
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: But these are actual politicians that hold office.

680
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: They supposed to be actually working on policies and building

681
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: bridges and coalitions with each other to make things happen,

682
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: not have Twitter beefs. These niggas had a Twitter beef

683
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: this week, like it's crazy. It's kind of weird now,

684
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: don't I guess I'm the only one that feels its weird.

685
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: It's a fucking weird thing, right, Regular people who work

686
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: all day sucking off the bad vibes of Fox News,

687
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: MSNBC and CNN, even regurgitating this shit over and over

688
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: has zero critical thinking into knowing who's a lesser to evils.

689
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: This is how I know people suck, and fortunately it's

690
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: because they fall into the same shit he habits and

691
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: not learning from history. But not just shitty as conservatives,

692
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: but liberals, especially the white ones, always straddling the fence

693
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: and like clockwork that when the shit happens as surprise always,

694
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: which tells me they don't ever want to deal with

695
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: the reality that the US is a steaming palad dog shit.

696
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: They want to stay in La la land about it.

697
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Also, back to this impeachment stuff, I'm more convinced than

698
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: ever and maybe it's me with the perspective lately they

699
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: want to show or some hope inspirational thing that will

700
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: change the landscape of America, like Andrew Sheppard played by

701
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: Michael Douglas's speech on the Crime Bill from Rob Reiners

702
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: the American President, which reeks of utopian bullshit. To me, yeah,

703
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: I saw different arguments for why they would like to

704
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: have impeachment. To me, to be fair, I don't think

705
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: any of the arguments necessarily swayed me to feel like

706
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: strongly we need to have impeachment proceedings. But I am

707
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 3: of the mind that I don't see anything bad about

708
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 3: doing impeachment in the way that a lot of people

709
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: feel like it'll be a bad thing, like then you

710
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 3: guys will you know, you guys won't be able to

711
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 3: follow it, and y'all won't go vote and all this stuff.

712
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 3: I hope that that's not true, you know. I hope

713
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: that if they did impeachment procedures. I mean, we'll put

714
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: it this way. I don't think impeachment procedures will change anything.

715
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: Let me just put it that way.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anyone out there who is for

717
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: Trump who will seeing impeachment procedure and go and now

718
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 3: I'm against Trump. They keep talking about, well, it'll document

719
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: his crimes and stuff.

720
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: Will come to life. I don't believe that. I think

721
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: we actually have documents of his crimes.

722
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: We know we have way more than enough evidence that

723
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: he's a corrupt individual, and it doesn't matter, and I don't.

724
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: I guess in that way, I can see why, you know,

725
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: if I was a politician, I might be like, I

726
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: don't want to do the impeaching thing because I just

727
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: literally think it's a waste of fucking time.

728
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Correct, correct, And that's my thing. I understand that's what

729
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: people want to understand. They want to go through the procedure.

730
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: I get it, and I'm not saying don't. But at

731
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Speaker 1: the same time, the.

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Speaker 2: Real, real, real, real, real.

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Speaker 1: Reality of it, not a goddamn thing is gonna change

734
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: nobody's perspective on If you was for him, you're still

735
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: gonna be for him. If it was fuck him, it's

736
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: still gonna be fuck him. Like at the end of

737
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: the day, nothing is going to change it. Just because

738
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: somebody gets impeached does.

739
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Speaker 5: Not mean they get removed to my office.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so right, I just think it's then and then okay,

741
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: let's say he does get impeached and resigned, which we're

742
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: now talking what twenty twenty one, because I mean, that's

743
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: if November is when we vote next year. So let's

744
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: he does get impeached and resigns and uh, he's still

745
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: in office at that point. Mike Bence like, I just don't.

746
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: I think people think it'll make them feel better because

747
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: they just want to see him take an l but

748
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: uh and for me personally, like I said, don't write in,

749
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: don't argue. I would if if someone was in my face,

750
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: like I want to see him in peach. Okay, I'm

751
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: not gonna argue with you about it.

752
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: You can have it. I just don't think it's gonna matter. Like,

753
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: I don't.

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00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 3: I don't even get the significance. It's like, we'll show

755
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: people that we still have laws. I'm like, well, then,

756
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: now you guys are the same fucking h the same

757
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 3: shit that y'all are saying that y'all like Huge Schumer

758
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: and Nancy Pelosi being like they're just so traditional with

759
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: their values and their rules and they're trying to get

760
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: things back to.

761
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: The old ways.

762
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I don't really believe that, because if

763
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: they were, then impeachment would be the thing, because that's

764
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: the we're gonna make this man we're gonna uphold him

765
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: to the traditions of the office, and we're gonna make

766
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: sure the standards are you know, and we're gonna and

767
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, that's a false hope. He will not

768
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: comply with any of that. They don't even send the

769
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: people that are like supposed to be questioned by Congress

770
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: to Congress, and when they do, their belligerent and they

771
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: don't answer questions like this, this is a criminal enterprise

772
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: that essentially is too powerful to be held accountable. And

773
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: the reason that it's too powerful to be held accountable

774
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: is that the American voters voted a Senate inn that

775
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: would never hold these motherfuckers accountable. Agreed, if you had

776
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: a Democratic Senate, go vote I think I think Nancy Felosi's,

777
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, all of them would be like, yes, litsen

778
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: piach this motherfucker like he's doing it, and they still

779
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: be accused of bias and never be people like they're

780
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: just doing it because you're a Republican. But the fucking

781
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: point is they would do it because they need to

782
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: get his ass out of office.

783
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: He's really corrupt, he's a criminal. But Nope, no, And

784
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: my thing is this.

785
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: You're dealing with somebody that does not respect the all.

786
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: They don't respect rules, they don't respect traditions, they don't

787
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: respect regulations. They just do whatever the fuck they want

788
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: to do. How can you expect somebody like this that

789
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: would even honor an impeachment?

790
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 5: He would go fuck it.

791
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: I could actually all because I could see him being

792
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: such an ass if he loses the election, he.

793
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 5: Would sitting in the office and be like, I'm not

794
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: leaving goddamn.

795
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: Office, just like a season of twenty four right, Like,

796
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: like literally.

797
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: I could see him going, fuck it, it was a fraud,

798
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: fake news. I'm not leaving office. Let's have a goddamn reelection.

799
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: So when you're dealing with.

800
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 5: Somebody that's like that, how can you tell me?

801
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: And like I said, I understand people on the peachment,

802
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: how can you tell me impeachment is gonna make a

803
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: fucking difference to somebody that is not going to respect it.

804
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: All of this shit was on the ballot in twenty sixteen,

805
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: like Clinton and Barack and Michelle Obama said, And yet

806
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: here we are a little over a year from twenty twenty,

807
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 3: where dams can increase their influence on the Senate and

808
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: the presidency. Yet Wolkes are doing that dumb ass cloud

809
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: chasing walkshit White liberals are shouting like the quitters that

810
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: they are, journalists are reapplying the wrong lessons again, and

811
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: regular people.

812
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: Are standing on the sidelines wondering why there's no peace

813
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: in love for the men.

814
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: Goddamn time. I want to have hope for twenty twenty.

815
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 3: But all this shit and now Peluncui got me thinking

816
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 3: that about this, and it bothers me. She's not perfect, obviously,

817
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: no politician is. Though, when the American public lacks pragmatism

818
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: and willingness to grasp the nature of things, there's a

819
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: lot wrong and that's very troubling.

820
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

821
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, man, the AOC stuff, to me,

822
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: I don't get upset about it because I just feel

823
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: like I'm seeing the game for what it is. And

824
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: she's essentially a Twitter person, like she like a Twitter

825
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: activist that just has office. And if you see it

826
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: that way, then I think you won't be so mad

827
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: at her, because it's almost like we all know that

828
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: annoying ass Twitter activist person we got muted or or whatever,

829
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: like where it's like sometimes they got good ideas and

830
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: sometimes they just talking pine the sky bullshit, and you know,

831
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: we don't have to argue with them and all this

832
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: shit like they're never gonna get all the things they want, period,

833
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: So okay, I won't stand in your way, but good

834
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: luck going to get that shit.

835
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: Good look.

836
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: Kirsten d says, I had to comment on Guess the

837
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: Race when Karen said that it had to have been

838
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: white people because of black person's credit limit wouldn't have

839
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: been that high.

840
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: I almost hit the floor. That's exactly what I was thinking.

841
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: Three thousand says I think the reason Nancy Pelosi and

842
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: AOC can't see out of the eyes because of the

843
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: era of politics they were brought up in. Nancy started

844
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: her career in the nineteen sixties, while AOC started in

845
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight.

846
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: Hell, I started listening to this podcast.

847
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 3: In high school, so y'all have been a big influence

848
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: on my personal politics, and yet I still feel the

849
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: generation gap at times while listening. I can't really imagine

850
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: what it's like over at Congress. I feel you three

851
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: thousand yo. That's some real shit, though, because I do

852
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: feel like the Twitter airing out shit. Everybody was like,

853
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 3: that's Nancy Pelosi trying to keep silence women of color.

854
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: I was like, that could also just be Naty Pelosi

855
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: being whatever seventy three or whatever the fuck, like yeah,

856
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: like we.

857
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: Don't talk of like it's certain shit. Come talk to me,

858
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: like talking this shit out in public.

859
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: Like nah yeah.

860
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 3: And for the record, I get both sides of that.

861
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: I get why ALC and them are like, nah, Twitter

862
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: is where we run shit. You can kind of create

863
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: your own reality on this app, and I'm creating my

864
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: own reality of I get to say whatever the fuck

865
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: I want to and I ain't gotta bring it to

866
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: your face first, you know, and what you're gonna do,

867
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 3: which essentially nothing. I ain't sure she can do about that.

868
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like the thing about LC and

869
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: them being outsiders. It's not like all these proposals they

870
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: got gonna pass anyway, so they can just kind of

871
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 3: present these proposals that have no chance of passing, don't

872
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: worry about building a coalition, and target their fucking you know,

873
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: comrades quote unquote their other Democrats. Target the motherfuckers for

874
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: for getting ousted in elections, like shit happens.

875
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: They're not there to be friends, you know, and with

876
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi being in charge.

877
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny the way, like it's funny to

878
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: me because I can tell, like, Nancy Pelosi not Twitter

879
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: generation savvy, because she could have also played the same

880
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: like cards that AOC in them play, because AOC started

881
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: on some like yeah, she's trying to stop women of

882
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: color and from like basically trying to imply like it's

883
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: a racial motivation. Why Nancy Pelosi won't just do what

884
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 3: the fuck they tell her to do, and why she

885
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: won't like be okay with them being critical of her

886
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: as fucking freshmen. They why she's just supposed to be like, well,

887
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: that's what they said, So I guess I gotta.

888
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: Go along with it. I have no retort, no rebuttal

889
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: I will never defend myself. They got it.

890
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: They're women of color. They get to say any and

891
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: everything they want to to me. Right, that's how people

892
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: act like Nancy is supposed to act right, right, But

893
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi could have also just started all this shit

894
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: with well, of course they're attacking me. I'm a woman

895
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 3: in power, and they trying to brain down a woman

896
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: because a woman that you know, a woman holding this office.

897
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: You know, she could have pulled that shit, but she

898
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: she not Twitter savvy like that.

899
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: Well, you gotta out fucking you know, it's like reverse

900
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: politic power, Like you know, you can't do this to me.

901
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 2: I'm a woman. They can't do this to me. I'm black.

902
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, I could be addicted to you, but you

903
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 2: can't say shit back.

904
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: You know, right and put like this because I never

905
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: put anything above white people, you know, as far as

906
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: what they do. And I don't know how Nancy Pelosi feels,

907
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell you this right now. I don't

908
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: know anybody that would just sit back and just have

909
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: people slender you and go online and make these claims

910
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: and not have no comeback and not say anything like that.

911
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: And that's the things.

912
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: And sometimes sometimes things are broad racing, and sometimes and not.

913
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't care who the fuck y'all was. I

914
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: think if you was all white women going at Nancy Pelosi,

915
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: I think Nancy Pelosi still would have said something. She's

916
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: seventy fucking years old.

917
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: Well, she been saying something about other people. Matter of fact,

918
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: what's funny is that the thing she said about don't

919
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: tweet it, come talk to me was not about Alexander

920
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: concept Cortez. That's what the article said, but it turns

921
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: out it was actually about Uh, it was a white

922
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: dude who was tweeting about Nasa Pelosi as he's a politician.

923
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 3: He deleted the shit and he's a Democrat and so

924
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: so it turns out it wasn't even about that. But

925
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: you know, alc of course capitalized off of it, took

926
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: it and said it's about me, and people were saying

927
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: it was about her and all fairness, so they fighting.

928
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, for me, it's just weird because I see

929
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: people have bought into one side is right, one side

930
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 3: is wrong, and I'm like, I don't feel I feel

931
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: like both sides are playing the role, like this is

932
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 3: the role they have and there it's gonna be conflict

933
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: involved because of the roles at it. Like one of

934
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: these is that outside influenced trying to shift the party

935
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: more to the left. One of these is the is

936
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: the is the the inside influence who understands the repercussions

937
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: of failure. And that's something that AOC is nice as

938
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: nice as like dope and savvy and young as those

939
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: people are, they will have no level of failure attached

940
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: to them if their ideas don't pass, if they don't

941
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: have anytime anything doesn't pass, it goes to Schumer and

942
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: Pelosi as y'all failed. Doesn't matter, you didn't have the numbers,

943
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, y'all didn't have a like, no one's voting

944
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: for these candidates in the all cycle.

945
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: It's just you failed.

946
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: And the stigma of failure does not attach itself to

947
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: the people that are outsiders because you're not supposed to

948
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: have an influence to actually change shit. If AOC was

949
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: in the driver's seat right now and she had to

950
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: make all the decisions for the Democratic Party, you would

951
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: see her start kind of taking some My guess is

952
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: My guess is you would see her to have to

953
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: compromise on some shit because I'm not just.

954
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: Making a decision for me.

955
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: I'm making a decision for all of these motherfuckers in

956
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 3: my party in America.

957
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's a difference between you saying something and

958
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: you implementing something. It's really easy to be on the

959
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: outside just throwing it up in the sky, but when

960
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: you have to take and you got to executed, and

961
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: you see what happens once these things policies started being

962
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: put in place, and you might have consequences of repercussions

963
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: that you didn't even.

964
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: Cross your mind. And yeah, it's a lot to that,

965
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: and you do, and you need a coalition to past things.

966
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: It's just not the it's not a dictatorship, you know,

967
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: as much as it's so funny because people that are

968
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: like democrats, people that are socialists, people you know that

969
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: really like I believe in democracy, I believe all the

970
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: people should have a voice, always skip over the fact

971
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: that there's a lot of people that don't agree with you.

972
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: Come on, they always skip over it. They did.

973
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: It's such a and I think, like, maybe it is

974
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: a social media thing because we get to cherry pick

975
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: the opinions we see. But but like, literally, you are

976
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: forgetting this country is a piece of shit. It's it's racist,

977
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: it's xenophobic, homophobic. So you can surround yourself by people

978
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: that agree with you and be like, yes, this is

979
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 3: the new reality, this is what the people want.

980
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: We all agree, we won't blank.

981
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: And I'm like, but we don't all agree, No, we don't,

982
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: you know, And you can go, well, we got the

983
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: majority from this poll, okay.

984
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: But when it's time to vote, that's the shit.

985
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 5: That matters.

986
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: Is it always a majority voting Democrat. Because some of

987
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: these states ain't on board this shit, and you have

988
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: to govern these states too. You have to appeal to

989
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: the voters in that state too. You can't just cast

990
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: those people outside and be like North Carolina didn't go

991
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: blue lasses last time, so fuck them full. All the

992
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 3: Democrats there like it's more complicated than the black and

993
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: white way we can treat it on Twitter, and that

994
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: I think that's what gets lost. Even he says, when

995
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: I started our video or the ice liquor, my first

996
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 3: thought was electric chair. I am all for I'm all

997
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: for prison. Stand her ass to Julie for a month

998
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: with the year community service. I'm all for people going

999
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: to jail because some people really need to be there.

1000
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: I think the biggest issue with the industrial prison system

1001
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: is the inequality of how the laws applied to brown, black,

1002
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: and poor people versus their rich counterparts. I think any

1003
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: prison reform should include sentence and reform to be applied

1004
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: equally based on crime and severely defense, not from whether

1005
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: the person is someone you empathize with because they look

1006
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: like you. Yeah, and that's the thing, man, I absolutely

1007
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: understand the idea of like prisoners. This corrupt basically slavery machine,

1008
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: and the same way you would be a slavery abolitionist,

1009
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 3: and you should be a prison abolitionist. I totally understand that,

1010
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 3: except for the fact that what do we do about crime?

1011
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: You do have to do something.

1012
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: And that's the thing that I just think can't come

1013
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: across on social media in a like a little quippie tweet,

1014
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: because it's like, nah, there's a lot of nuance here

1015
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: about like R Kelly. The fans come and get R Kelly,

1016
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: and we're not sitting around crying talking about I don't

1017
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: believe anyone should go to prison. None of us were.

1018
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: I didn't see not one person talking about I don't

1019
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: think anyone should have to go to prison. This weekend,

1020
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 3: when that shit happened, we went good. The fans got them.

1021
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: I guess I'm rooting for the feds right apparently now

1022
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for the federal government. Yeah, because I don't

1023
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: think R Kelly should be out here with access to

1024
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: young women and shit.

1025
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: I don't. And I guess it makes me a bad

1026
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: person or whatever. I'll take that.

1027
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: I call it common sense, I call it reasonable. I'm

1028
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 3: not living in some fairy tale lad where we can

1029
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: just talk to this nigga. Hes gonna stop doing it.

1030
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 3: He needs to be somewhere where he has no access

1031
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: to money and people fuck him for everybody that helped

1032
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: him too. And if that, yeah, if I'm a caveman

1033
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: for that shit, I guess I'm the cave man.

1034
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm not that progressive. Uh, should anyone ever go to prison?

1035
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Was a pole.

1036
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: Yes, some people have to go there. No, there's always

1037
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: an alternative, and I think everyone should go to prison.

1038
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: I own stock in private prisons. Six percent of y'all

1039
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: own stock in private prisons.

1040
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: That's so sad.

1041
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

1042
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: One point for person said no, there's always an alternative, alternative,

1043
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: and then audience said, yes, some people got.

1044
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: To go to prison. That's it. Charles says.

1045
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: Even in real social democratic countries like Norway, Sweden, Germany, etcetera,

1046
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: they still have jails in prison, but those systems are

1047
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: really set up to rehabilitate people, and like our systems

1048
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 3: that are seemingly set up to make people into even better.

1049
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: Criminals and to dehumanize them. Right right, that's the thing.

1050
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 3: You have to be able to see the humanity and folks.

1051
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: But even in those even in those places, I guarantee

1052
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: you that as people, they're like this motherfucker, we can't

1053
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 3: let out like some of these motherfuls, like this serial

1054
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: killer ass nigga, We can't. He's not it's not gonna

1055
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: happen for him, okayabilitate in jail, yeah.

1056
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 5: He won't.

1057
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: Right, Not enough ABC's in the world to fix this shit.

1058
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: Kiara says, I agree with Charles. Rehabilitation should be to

1059
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: go for those that will be will be released in society.

1060
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 3: Communication with the outside world, social interaction, education, and health

1061
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 3: are things that should not be taken away from people

1062
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 3: that will one day be a part of civilization again.

1063
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: And I think American prison system is just not set

1064
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: up to support any of that. But yes, some people

1065
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 3: need to go to prison, and the ones that should

1066
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: not be released in society, murders, rapists shouldn't rive in prison.

1067
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1068
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: And the thing for me is, I'm not even like

1069
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: one of those. I mean, y'all listen to the show.

1070
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm not even want them like punitive, like I want

1071
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: you to.

1072
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: Go to prison so you will be raped and you

1073
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 3: will be killed and all this shit. I'm not even

1074
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: saying that, Like, uh, you listen to this. I just

1075
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: don't talk like that, Like even with Bill Cosey's a

1076
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: man I despised. I would never be on here like

1077
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: and that, wait till you see who put in plops

1078
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: he gonna be you on Like. I'm not advocating, but

1079
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what prison should be. And it's

1080
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: fucked up that it is that for so many people.

1081
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: But that being said, he can't be out here with us.

1082
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but what the fuck like this is like

1083
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: this and this extremism only comes out when people have

1084
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: empathy for or feel some relationship to the person that

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00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: is doing the crime that time.

1086
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: They don't feel that way all the time. And that's

1087
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: the only thing I'm pointing out this.

1088
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm not saying prison abolition is stupid or the people

1089
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: that are doing that work.

1090
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: Don't you know that these are their ideas.

1091
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: No, just the people that throw the quippy, little meat

1092
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: like bullshit out there on social media like it's so

1093
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: fucking simple. Those people are ridiculous, That's all I'm pointing out.

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00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: Michelle says off topic, but oh I'm sorry, Episode nineteen nineteen,

1095
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: Bruce mcgribs. Michelle says, off topic, but relevant. A group

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00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 3: called the ADOS wants to police Kamala Harris's blackness because

1097
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: her father's from Jamaica Obama Part two.

1098
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to do like a Birther thing on her.

1099
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how much of them ADOS people are

1100
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: real and how much of them are Russians?

1101
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 5: Right, they ain't go away?

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00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 3: They still Yeah, and the ADOSS stands for African descendants

1103
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: of slaves, basically people that are promoting like reparations and

1104
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: shit for black people. And yeah, and of course they

1105
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: hate Kamala Harris because she has a white husband and

1106
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 3: is a woman, and they disguise it as everything but that,

1107
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 3: but the idea of trying to keep her from being black.

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00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: Uh.

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00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: And I know it's Kamala Harris. I can't always pronounce

1110
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: it wrong. It's not bad, but it's not.

1111
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: It's nah, it's like Kamala Harris. It's not pronounced. I

1112
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: always say like Kamala Harris, but it's really like Kamala

1113
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: or something like that. Okay, something, it's like something fast,

1114
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: it's not. I'm from the South, guys.

1115
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, because I always called Kamila.

1116
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: I always say Kamala Harris, but I don't think that's

1117
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 3: how it's pronounced anyway.

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00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: Man.

1119
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: The fact that they're trying to erase her fucking blackness.

1120
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: It's so over the top and stupid and like I said,

1121
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: a lot of it's just like Russian people, Russian bots

1122
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: and ship it's not even real. Yeah it's and it's

1123
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: and it's besides the fucking point, Like, there's so many

1124
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: things that if you don't like her, there's actual like

1125
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: policies and shit you can look at and track record

1126
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: and be like, I don't like that she did this.

1127
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: I don't like that she did that, And maybe people.

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00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 3: Might disagree with you, but shit, at least it happened.

1129
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just make her the not black, okay. Falcons

1130
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: Diva says Life is my absolute favorite movie.

1131
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: I love you. I hope you guys get to watch

1132
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: it again.

1133
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: Also, Rod, I love your rant about how all people

1134
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 3: are trash, not just rich folks. Out sitting at my

1135
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: desk saying amen, love y'all.

1136
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: Thanks Falcons Devil, thank you.

1137
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: Trace Windle says hey, Ryan and Karen loel at the

1138
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: cosme and asked to leave.

1139
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: Rod had me laughing my ass.

1140
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 3: I was saying he was going to pull the windows down,

1141
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 3: drive slow besides them and play and lee lee as

1142
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 3: they leave and blast d'angelo's untitled how does it feel More?

1143
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: Ha haha, But you last that sound like the perfect

1144
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: payback for any racist person that gets some good instant

1145
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: karma back on them.

1146
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: That's a good point, great discussion on the niceness.

1147
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: Article you guys talked about if you try to be

1148
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: a positive person in your life, protect your energy at

1149
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: all costs, even if it's family that gets on your nerves.

1150
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: And Karen, I can't remember if it was this episode the.

1151
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 3: Next one where you said the great word about your

1152
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 3: job paying you to come in, shut the fuck up

1153
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 3: and do your job, I howled an agreement on the

1154
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: nasty ass ice cream liquors lock they asses up.

1155
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably.

1156
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 3: Shouldn't be get twenty years, but they damn show should

1157
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: face some kind of consequences and repercussion for their actions.

1158
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 2: Nasty bastards lol. Thanks to get rid of Karen trace

1159
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: Win do agreed they should at least give them what they.

1160
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: Would give somebody that vandalized a bunch of property, because

1161
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: if the point of the story is we gotta throw

1162
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: out all this product because now we don't know what's

1163
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 3: contaminated and what's not.

1164
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: At minimum, you should have to like pay that fine

1165
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: for whatever the.

1166
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: Fuck they had to throw all that shit away, and

1167
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: you know, the community service or the time that they

1168
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 3: would give somebody who like went in there spray painted

1169
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: the whole freezer section or something at least that, you know,

1170
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: And we're still talking about something way more dangerous than that,

1171
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: because obviously you can get illnesses and shit from fucking

1172
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: people's food. But I mean that should be like the

1173
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 3: minimum Brother rodgerck and sister Careen's from CC. I'm sorry

1174
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 3: to say, but tiny Jack is having her white side

1175
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 3: standout too much. Now, it ain't white people paying twice

1176
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: as the white devil that is her Hen said, it's

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00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 3: niggas paying half.

1178
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 2: A big difference.

1179
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: Yes, Cze, no man, I'll see why she had to

1180
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: pull out. No, I mean, I'll see why she had

1181
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: to pull out. But come on, at least worded so

1182
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: at least it sounds good. Yes, look that's where they

1183
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: fucked up the festival. This should have been like Black's

1184
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 3: half off. But still I have a question about this scenario.

1185
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: Four years ago, I got some tickets to listen to

1186
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 3: Angela Davis speak at the Swedish Royal Institute of Art.

1187
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: I barely saw a black face in the audience. It

1188
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: was all white university students with rich parents and white

1189
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 3: people would pull. I was glad she stepped out and

1190
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 3: talked to all the black women and girls there that

1191
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: were waiting outside just to see her, because we were

1192
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: few in that audience. So fast forward the year and

1193
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: we're getting Chimamanda in gose adich Adichi to speak for

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00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 3: us again.

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Speaker 8: So what do I what to do?

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00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 3: I mean, they aren't only speaking four or two black people,

1197
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: but it feels like black people should be there and

1198
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 3: not in the minority. Since Jack couldn't be uh, since

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Speaker 3: Jack couldn't be done, I'll see the same scenario, mostly

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00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: white university students that won't get it, and barely any

1201
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: black people.

1202
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 2: It's weird. How do you handle such a situation? Is

1203
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 2: it a situation to handle?

1204
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: Because trust me, many black women and girls really wanted

1205
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: to listen to them, but they are part of this

1206
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 3: BS system or no people who are who are, so

1207
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: they keep getting shut out of these things.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, thanks for reading, y'alluse kisses. What do you think?

1209
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 5: Ask a hard question because the thing is you need access?

1210
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 5: Do you not get any as sex? The people that

1211
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 5: hold the tickets aren't willing to give up their tickets.

1212
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck if they understand what's going

1213
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: on or not your prestigious you know, it's university that

1214
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: everybody looks there about image. They're about, you know, coming

1215
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: here making these grand speeches and clapping and then going

1216
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: home and not doing a goddamn thing because they're not

1217
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: really gonna change anything.

1218
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 6: And then.

1219
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: How do they get in the room. That's a question,

1220
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: like I don't know. That's up to the universities, do

1221
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: you you know, because it's this is a campus thing,

1222
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: university thing. It's probably donors people to get big money.

1223
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 5: Professors and shit like that. Like, I don't know what

1224
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 5: to do. And whiteness has shut you out? What power

1225
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 5: do you have?

1226
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure that those people aren't talking to

1227
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: white people, and I'm not saying that Majoritaly. They're writing

1228
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: books to educate the world and inform the world of

1229
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: the plight of black people and women and these different

1230
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: marginalized groups, and who really needs to be educated about

1231
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: that is mostly white people.

1232
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: This doesn't mean black people can't find enrichment in it.

1233
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 3: I mean the same way people listen to our podcasts

1234
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: and it's foreigned by black people and we're fut of

1235
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 3: first and foremost and all this shit.

1236
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: When I read them.

1237
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: Books, man don't feel like they're always first and foremost

1238
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: for us. So that's one part. I guess it would

1239
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: depend on the lecture and discussion, because you know, I

1240
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: love Angela Davis, but like Angela Davis not just speaking

1241
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: to black It's not just a black event, you know.

1242
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: Like And the other part is many times.

1243
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: It is the people that have money, resource and privilege

1244
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: that you need to hear these messages more so than me. Now,

1245
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: I may be a fan of Angela Davis and I

1246
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: just want to be there to get my books signed,

1247
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: or just to meet her or to hear her talk.

1248
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that.

1249
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: But if her mission or whatever to go to these

1250
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: colleges and speak is one of spreading the word, you know,

1251
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: it might not be like a fans tour. It's gonna

1252
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: be a how do I get access to the people

1253
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: that I can talk to after this and say, hey,

1254
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: can you start this initiative? What about this plan? Can

1255
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: we build something together? And in many cases that may

1256
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: take money or something, so I could see that. The

1257
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: other thing I'll say, man, and this is also not shade,

1258
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 3: but Nigga's socialist books ain't free, you know what I'm saying,

1259
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: Like it's all all the this shit is within a

1260
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: system of capitalism. No matter how woke somebody sounds. They

1261
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: not giving them books away. They making money. They're not

1262
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 3: living on the street, you know what I'm saying.

1263
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: They takeing care of there. So all this shit is

1264
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: for sale, you know what I mean.

1265
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: So don't ever get too caught up in the idealism

1266
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: reading this shit, hearing the shit like you gotta make

1267
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 3: a living and if only like the students are the

1268
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 3: only people that are gonna want to see you, and

1269
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 3: you're not going to have access to the people that

1270
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 3: can kind of like get you in a circuit where

1271
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 3: you make money and shit, people make money for them

1272
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 3: college tours and all that shit. You know, maybe maybe

1273
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: she could put some demands on folks and be like, hey,

1274
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: I want X amount of students in the audience, but

1275
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: you're still gonna have the students gonna be able to

1276
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: get in. But then they're gonna be like, well, how

1277
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: do we pay the bills for this facility. How we

1278
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: still have to monetize this thing, So all this activism

1279
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: and shit is monetized. I don't hold any I have

1280
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 3: no misgivings about that, and I don't judge anyone for

1281
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 3: it either. No, people try to put a litmus test

1282
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: on these activists, like activists don't get the same fucking.

1283
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: Bills we got.

1284
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 3: Come on, if you're an activist and you not figuring

1285
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: out a way to make money off your shit, you

1286
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: probably gonna be broke. You might be the realist broke

1287
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: nigga ever, but you're gonna be broke, and you're gonna

1288
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 3: be struggling. And when people not gonna actually give a fuck,

1289
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: like when you need help, when you need something, people

1290
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: gonna be like, Wow, this nigga really wants something.

1291
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was about black freedom.

1292
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: Fam Like, it's like it's such a it's such a

1293
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 3: fucked up hole that we throw these activists into and shit.

1294
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, I wouldn't necessarily feel a certain way about that.

1295
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 7: Now.

1296
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: The extra part of it is just though, as a

1297
01:01:55,120 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: creative right, if Timamanda or Angela Davis or who whoever wanted.

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01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: To create certain spaces that were for.

1299
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: Black women only black women events and stuff.

1300
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: There's nothing stopping them from doing that.

1301
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: Now, you can't take this like maybe this public space

1302
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: like a college and be like, no, only blacks, right,

1303
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 3: It's you know, like it's probably harder to do that,

1304
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But you could have like

1305
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 3: the Black Caucus, the Black student union at your school,

1306
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: invite certain people out.

1307
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: Maybe it won't pay as much money, maybe it won't

1308
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: be as.

1309
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: Big a like, have as many it won't be in

1310
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 3: the biggest building on campus anymore. But you know, for

1311
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 3: those black people that are there that would like to

1312
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: meet that person, I mean, there's other ways to get

1313
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: it to happen, you know.

1314
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: So I don't think. I just think not all spaces

1315
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: are like that, you know, agreed, So, but yeah, it's

1316
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: like I said, it ain't even and it ain't even.

1317
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 3: She gotta make she gotta make bills, she gotta make

1318
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: rent or whatever however she spends her money.

1319
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: Now, she could be rich for all I know, but

1320
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: she she she gonna this ship is for money at

1321
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: some point too. You know, I bought that book.

1322
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 3: I ain't buy it for free, you know what I'm saying,

1323
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 3: Like that she's doing work, so she's being compensated for

1324
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 3: that work. And white people have the most money in America.

1325
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 3: So when you're saying selling something and motherfucker's like it,

1326
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: you know, to a certain extent, it gets major.

1327
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 2: That's when white people come right.

1328
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: So anyway, no, no, you know U no, no, no

1329
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: offense to you either, see see like I hope I

1330
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: don't step on your toes, but you know, you know,

1331
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 3: I always it's something I see on Twitter sometimes or

1332
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 3: Facebook where people try to turn something that's not a

1333
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: black space into we're gonna make this a black thing.

1334
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, good luck, you know what I mean. Like,

1335
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how you're gonna do it, but like

1336
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: you either need to plan that shit from the beginning

1337
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: that you're just.

1338
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: Doing some only black shit and have like a full

1339
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: You can't just turn some shit into some blacks.

1340
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: You can't be like black people get in free.

1341
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: White people gotta pay because they're all kinds of like

1342
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: fucking laws and shit where companies don't want to let

1343
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: you operate like that just for the fact that someone

1344
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: would operate the polar opposite of that and they would

1345
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 3: use you as an example. Correct, y'all, didn't have a

1346
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: problem when y'all said, only black people go to this event,

1347
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: So what I can't have a white nationalist meeting like oh,

1348
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 3: here we go, you know, like PayPal just want one

1349
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: simple fucking solution. They don't want you know what I'm saying.

1350
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 3: They don't want to They don't want to have to

1351
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: be like, well, for black people, it's this. If you're

1352
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: in you can do this. If you're a Chinese you

1353
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: can do this.

1354
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 4: But not this.

1355
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: They're like, no, our business needs a flat out you

1356
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: can do or you can't do things.

1357
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: And yeah, so that that whole concert with the half

1358
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 3: off of black people thing, it was like, y'all, how

1359
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: did y'all not know that that was?

1360
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you not know? These sensitive ass white

1361
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: people can't take it?

1362
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: You know, they can't all be cool enough. They probably

1363
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't be planning on going and they mad. You know,

1364
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 3: Mom says, hey, y'all really enjoyed this episode. Talking about relationships,

1365
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 3: My husband and I recently had a conversation about differences.

1366
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: Again. He's an extrovert and I'm an introvert.

1367
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: Over the years, he's learned that to have me comfortable

1368
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: at parties and events, I'm like Lauren Hill, have to

1369
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: line my chakras.

1370
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: Of weeks or day at least days ahead, saying.

1371
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: Or I will be unhappy. He's the type of guy

1372
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: who loves to keep a party going. He drives off

1373
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 3: that type of energy. He loves working in the room

1374
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: and talking to everyone, while I only I only need

1375
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 3: at least one or two, one to three people to

1376
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: have a fun conversation with, and him to check on

1377
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: me periodically to see if I'm ready to go. My

1378
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 3: problem is that I often stretch myself to my limit

1379
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: because I see how much he's enjoying himself, even if

1380
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: I'm getting drained, which I have to stop doing. Introverts

1381
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 3: do like people and can't even enjoy a party. But

1382
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: for me, at least, certain things just have to be

1383
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: in place. Love y'all in mind. Yeah, I've done that too,

1384
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: where I'm like, I really really really really really want

1385
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 3: to go, but you know, Karen's enjoying herselves, so I

1386
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: guess it's another round of space.

1387
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah. I take one time he just left, he was like,

1388
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 5: I've had enough.

1389
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, So sometimes I'm just like I wish I had

1390
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: taken another car, right, just go home.

1391
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 5: So you're like, I can just leave right here, shit,

1392
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 5: come home.

1393
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to ruin anybody's time, you know, I

1394
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 3: just it would be okay if I'm like, I've had

1395
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 3: enough party.

1396
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: That was it. That was my limit.

1397
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 3: Should public schools teach financial literacy class? One hundred percent

1398
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 3: of y'all said yes, that's what's up.

1399
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: Rarely see that.

1400
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 3: Alicia says, I think schools should teach financial literacy, But parents,

1401
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: remember we are children's number one teacher advocates. I teach

1402
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 3: my children and learn why doing so real black history,

1403
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 3: social life skills.

1404
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: Et cetera. Over show. If the school ain't doing it,

1405
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

1406
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, generals, that's something that seemed like

1407
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 3: a school shit, do.

1408
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 6: You know?

1409
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: And then you can supplement it at home. You can

1410
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: add on to it.

1411
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 3: Dave says, thank you Ryan to Karen, I had to

1412
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: stop the podcast to listen to the MF song Life

1413
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 3: when then.

1414
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: To add in so to it.

1415
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: I found this written and produced by R Kelly, Fuck

1416
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: my life anyway. Good to have you guys back. And

1417
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: this might be a hack to the iTunes review if

1418
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 3: you ye back and edit and overview it seems to

1419
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 3: retransmit as a new review. So if you already did

1420
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 3: a review, go back and edit and re sind. All right,

1421
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: day with the hack. All right, let's see we had

1422
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty humping around.

1423
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: A lot of people enjoyed that episode. They did like

1424
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: the music episodes.

1425
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: We had four comments. Brooklyn Shoe base has laughed my

1426
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: ass off now that you mentioned it. Pumps in a

1427
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: Bump was the first unsolicited dick pic. I remember watching

1428
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 3: the video on MTV when it premiered with my college roommates.

1429
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 3: We were all sitting there with our mouths open, a

1430
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 3: oys popping. What the fuck are we watching here?

1431
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: All right?

1432
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 6: What is this?

1433
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: Looking at it through my fingers. I just tried to

1434
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: watch the video again and had to have had the

1435
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 3: same reaction. However, I do remember a Prince album cover

1436
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 3: where he had a nickerchief and a banana sling. Oh yeah,

1437
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 3: I remember that. Prince the only man who could do that.

1438
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: And it's never too much male nudity.

1439
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: Right, Damn? I needed to just laugh.

1440
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 3: I would like for your you the crowd sauce a

1441
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 3: list of gas lighting love songs.

1442
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: It would be so hilarious. Uh yeah, we might need

1443
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: to do that. Trey says, Hey, Rod and Karen.

1444
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: The hilarious thing about the most pelvic thrust in the

1445
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 3: music videos that no matter the name of the music video,

1446
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: it's more than likely a Bobby Brown video if it's

1447
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: not humping around music videos. The my Prerogative music video.

1448
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: Bobby hunts so much air in the My Prerogative video

1449
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 3: that he got the air pregnant with triplets and aside, baby,

1450
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,879
Speaker 3: I love y'all, goofy asses, thanks ageing Rod of Carrot.

1451
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 2: Trace Win, dude, thank you.

1452
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 5: It was a lot of humping, it ain't and my progative.

1453
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, when he was in that thug loving I thought

1454
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: that helicopter did a kick in a pelvic thrust.

1455
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: Whoa he did? I forgot about that, he says.

1456
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: Pump Land Bump came out around the time when Hammer

1457
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: was trying to change his image because he was getting

1458
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 3: a lot of flak for being a smiling, dancing coon.

1459
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: Oh I remember that. I still don't remember, man, I

1460
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 2: still I think.

1461
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: What's funny about that is it was generally accepted that, oh,

1462
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: this nigga's a coon.

1463
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, I had no problem with him singing and dancing.

1464
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: In fact, I had hammel pants. What are we talking

1465
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: about here?

1466
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: Right?

1467
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 3: But look, sorry, I actually stopped at that time being

1468
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: a third Base fan, the white rapper group Third Base,

1469
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 3: I stopped fucking with them cause they had a song

1470
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 3: disting Emcy Himmer in the video, and I'm like.

1471
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: Who the fuck are y'all?

1472
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 3: White boys called anyone a coon? Y'all got to stay

1473
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 3: the fuck out of family business. Okay, y'all got a

1474
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 3: little too goddamn comfortable. MC search and Pete b okay

1475
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 3: like that.

1476
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 6: I was.

1477
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: I did not feel that shit, man. I remember seeing

1478
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: that video being.

1479
01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 7: Like, what the fuck?

1480
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: Who do these motherfuckers? No, can't come to the cookout

1481
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: doing this. Gotta just get your plate and eat the corner.

1482
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1483
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 3: Anyway, First of all, I didn't see it that way,

1484
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 3: but it was at the time when gangster rap was

1485
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 3: blowing up and party rappers like Hammertone, Lok and Young

1486
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 3: and See we're not getting as much airplay.

1487
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to kid and play.

1488
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 3: Will Smith was able to transform into a mega movie star,

1489
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 3: while with hammer we got pups in a bump.

1490
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 5: It had his own cartoon.

1491
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 3: I remember that it really could have been a bop

1492
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: if not for that. Really strange Pelvic thrusting video. His fans,

1493
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: who liked the happy dancing rapper, were like, what the

1494
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 3: fuck is this?

1495
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 6: That was me.

1496
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 5: I was like, we're not dancing with big.

1497
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 2: Friends and planting a patting other shoes. What happened?

1498
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: While the gangster rapper fans were like he was. He

1499
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: was trying to appeal to said what the fuck is this?

1500
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 3: And that's when he fell all the way off looking

1501
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 3: for him. Retro music is always fun at parties, and

1502
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: when Kate Touch just comes onto the party, you can

1503
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: always see at least five or six people don't doing

1504
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 3: the tap ride a dance on the floor. You can't

1505
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: tell me that people don't get up and dance when

1506
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,520
Speaker 3: they hear that song come on and then air Anonymous

1507
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 3: included a YouTube video to Bill Clinton humping around like

1508
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 3: Living Color sketch.

1509
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 2: Oh old school. Yeah. I would play it, but you

1510
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 2: know it's a audio podcast.

1511
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 3: More Pelvic thrusts humping around or pumps in the bump,

1512
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 3: pumps in the bump. Won seventy Wow, that was way

1513
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 3: that was a blowout. I thought it was gonna be

1514
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: way closer. Twenty people say humping around, but uh yeah

1515
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 3: he was.

1516
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 2: He was up there.

1517
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 5: It was pretty pretty high.

1518
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

1519
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 3: He was definitely humping a lot of air and the

1520
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 3: humping around I mean, and that pumps in the bump.

1521
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what got in the hammer. All right,

1522
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: we had the last episode of the week. It was

1523
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 2: called carpooling.

1524
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 3: Anonymous says, not for twenty years, but yes, okay, that's

1525
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 3: to the pole.

1526
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 2: I guess.

1527
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 3: All right, Turk says, Hi, guys, you want to know

1528
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: how to get rid of those sonic devices. Yeah, the

1529
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: sign devices they used to get rid of teens in the.

1530
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: Park in Philadelphia.

1531
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 3: Tell white people that it's fucking with dogs, since dogs

1532
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 3: can hear all those hoigh pitched noises. People can't. We

1533
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 3: all know white people love dolls supersedes everything else. I

1534
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: know the dolls are casts in the neighborhood were losing

1535
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: that goddamn minds hearing all the noise at night.

1536
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 5: I bet they were.

1537
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder if it's a sound where

1538
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 2: they can't hear, but the teens can.

1539
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 3: Because I feel like white people love dogs so much,

1540
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 3: they probably thought about that before they install the sonic devices.

1541
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: There's like, nope, not this one. It affects puppies too.

1542
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: We have to make it only affect the ears of

1543
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: black children, no one else. I'm not a prison abolitionist,

1544
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: but I am a say this.

1545
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 3: I think these people tampering with foods should have to

1546
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 3: eat food that had the same thing done.

1547
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: To it by random strangers.

1548
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 3: I bet you that will make people except for the

1549
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 3: Kingsters think about doing that for Man also shouts out

1550
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: to care.

1551
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: I know the show pun Game is getting better. Piece

1552
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: hurt it is PSD.

1553
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 3: But ninety five says greeting Queen Karen and King Rod,

1554
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 3: Crystal and Joe Butden have been in conflict for years.

1555
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: I'd have to go back a few years on the

1556
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: Read podcast to remember when it started. But it has

1557
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: to do with Joe Budden in his past trash ways.

1558
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 3: She didn't randomly start firing back at him. It built

1559
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 3: up for a minute. Glad you'll join your vatka keep

1560
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 3: on keeping on. Yeah, well that's the thing. And I

1561
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 3: said it on the show because someone else hit us

1562
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 3: up on Twitter like y'all shouldn't even have talked about

1563
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 3: it or some shit, and I'm like whatever, man, like,

1564
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: thanks for listening, but get the fuck out of here.

1565
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 3: We talk about things and we weren't all definitive during

1566
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 3: that segment.

1567
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: It was like, I don't know.

1568
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: It sounds like they must have issues in the past

1569
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: because the shit took off immediately, like you we've all

1570
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 3: seen like well, I don't say we all.

1571
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1572
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 3: You niggas might not really be on social media like that,

1573
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 3: but when you are, you have people that don't like

1574
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 3: each other and you don't know sometimes.

1575
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 5: Right until something happens.

1576
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know they didn't like each other. I don't

1577
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: listen to to read that much. I don't listen to

1578
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 3: his shit at all, so I didn't know they've been

1579
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 3: sniping at each other for years. The article I read

1580
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 3: didn't mention that they've been going to each other for

1581
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 3: years or any of this shit. So I'm just reading

1582
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: this shit like on Twitter, like yo, this shit went

1583
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: to like like this shit went nuclip fast, like it

1584
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: went from.

1585
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: Like him saying something.

1586
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: Kind of vague where you like, I wonder who that

1587
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 3: was about, and then people be like, listen, I know

1588
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 3: who it's about, to which I'm like, oh, that nigga

1589
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 3: must talk shit about her.

1590
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: They mustn't. Everyone must know they don't fuck with each other.

1591
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, because if I was on

1592
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 3: here being like, uh, you know, light skinned people be

1593
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 3: acting crazy. Sometimes there's a bunch of people that would

1594
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 3: be like Wells talking about light skinned people.

1595
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: But if I really meant I was talking shit.

1596
01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 3: About Justin, there'd be somebody out there like he go

1597
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 3: talk about Justin again at Justin on Twitter, this nigga

1598
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 3: talking about you again, right, That's to me that shows

1599
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 3: like it's history there. So I don't know how people well,

1600
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 3: I do know, I do know what I believe happened.

1601
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 3: Folks have probably really been following that conflict. They picked

1602
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 3: their sides, and they've decided that anyone who is out

1603
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 3: of the loop is basically like the enemy or shouldn't

1604
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 3: even be discussing it. Yeah, I don't know, and I

1605
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 3: said as much at the time, So I don't regret it.

1606
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 3: And we will continue to talk about shit because hey,

1607
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 3: that's how you learn, you know. And also because it

1608
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 3: was interesting and newsworthy is trending all over Twitter and

1609
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: you think we shouldn't talk about it the fuck out

1610
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 3: of here. The other thing too, though I would throw

1611
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 3: out there. I also talked extensively in that segment about

1612
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 3: like I don't know how to fuck Joe Budden got

1613
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 3: to rehabilitate himself.

1614
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: What are the rules?

1615
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 3: Like he completely had like come back into prominence and

1616
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 3: rebranded himself in a way where I would have thought

1617
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: was literally impossible. When we started this show. I remember

1618
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: some of our episodes being like, so Joe Budden did this.

1619
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: He's accused of domestic violence. He raps about beating a

1620
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 3: woman to a miscarriage, and I was like, oh, so

1621
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 3: it's old for this, nigga.

1622
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 2: This is before I knew, you.

1623
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: Know, as much as I know about not people not

1624
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 3: getting canceled. But yeah, I was like, so, I guess

1625
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: he just threw his career away because that's you admitted

1626
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 3: to it. And even still people fuck with that dude.

1627
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 3: They listened to his hip hop opinions. He you know,

1628
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: has a podcast and stuff like he just living a

1629
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 3: charm life. And you know, the other thing the person

1630
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 3: said on Twitter was like, some people are canceled forever,

1631
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 3: and I'm like, but they not.

1632
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,879
Speaker 2: It's easy to stay on Twitter, but it's just not reality.

1633
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: They not actually.

1634
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 5: Canceled, cancel and they all come back stronger.

1635
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, in this case, you're talking about

1636
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 3: people that are fucking flourishing. Right Aside, Rocky is in

1637
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 3: like prison right now, but assuming he won't be in

1638
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 3: prison forever, they're probably gonna celebrate this nigga.

1639
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 2: Like Meek Mill when he gets back.

1640
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know what to tell you, man, these

1641
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 3: people do not seem to give a fuck, you know,

1642
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 3: so anyway, uh even he says a thing about oh

1643
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, and I just didn't know they had.

1644
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: Beef like that.

1645
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 3: It makes sense now because, like I said on Twitter,

1646
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 3: it just like, God damn, that's who else fast, Like

1647
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 3: you're on a sixty and you're like, what, God damn fast,

1648
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 3: something happened, you know. He says the thing about aside Rocky,

1649
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 3: who I thought was the same dude, the Travis Scott

1650
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 3: up until a month ago, right, I thought straight up,

1651
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 3: Like especially when they both said that ship.

1652
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: About like first, and I really got them confused.

1653
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: Like when that's all aside Rocky quote going on Twitter,

1654
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, Trayvis, got's Rockie?

1655
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: What's happening?

1656
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 5: It's so confusing.

1657
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, look all these niggas get this money, man,

1658
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: and they just.

1659
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 3: Man, they like black men will eject from some shit sometimes, man,

1660
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 3: Like they just really feel like I got one step

1661
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 3: out of the race already because I got this privilege

1662
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 3: in this money. I'm done caring about this kind of shit,

1663
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: you know. And the stupidity to me is not that

1664
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: they feel that way. I feel like, if we're being honest,

1665
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 3: a lot of us wish we could quote unquote escape

1666
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 3: some of this shit. While we always talk about self

1667
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 3: care and blah blah blah, it's saying it, you know, like, like,

1668
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: why would you say, like I refuse to care about

1669
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 3: my people. If you really feel that way, you should

1670
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 3: probably keep that to yourself because it's some coon shit

1671
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 3: to say and believe. But if you just but if

1672
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 3: you're just trying to express in the moment of like, man,

1673
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: I just don't want to have to be thinking about

1674
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 3: this shit all the time, people can relate to that.

1675
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: And I think these motherfuckers keep going to extra mind

1676
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 3: with the ship and that's why they get getting called out,

1677
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 3: and that's why the statements stick with them forever. You know,

1678
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 3: It's it's not an unpopular sentiment. We heard it from

1679
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 3: a lot of these rich niggas.

1680
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 5: Family young black or rich.

1681
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 3: Is that don't let you know that America understands black

1682
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 3: matter these days.

1683
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

1684
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 8: Don't collect with that, man, My life matter, especially tomorrow.

1685
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: Right, I got enough money.

1686
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 3: Guess what, guys, I'm no longer caring about this black shit,

1687
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 3: so it don't affect me because I'm rich. You know,

1688
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 3: it's some ignorant shit to say, and they really think

1689
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 3: they bother when they say that shit, But it's just ignorant.

1690
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 3: And yeah, everybody want to see these niggas get their

1691
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 3: nigga wake up call and guess what. Everybody partying about it,

1692
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 3: and of course the people that's not partying. It's funny

1693
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 3: to me too, because the opposite side of that is

1694
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 3: y'all typically don't give a fuck about this kind of

1695
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 3: shit until it's somebody that you know, then all of

1696
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 3: a sudden we all need to we let me put

1697
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 3: my activists on speed down, like y'all don't care about

1698
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 3: these causes all the time, I didn't see a lot

1699
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 3: of people shouting free Remmy, free Kim or free Oh

1700
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, UHL would there be such an outcry of

1701
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 3: black female was in jail. I didn't see a lot

1702
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 3: of shouting about free Remy, free Kim, or free to Brat.

1703
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a great point, and no.

1704
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: There were not.

1705
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 3: Part of this is because he's a black dude, and

1706
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 3: community rallies around black dudes so fucking fast without equivocation normally,

1707
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 3: and without anybody saying anything, you know, and.

1708
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 5: Then look at you wrong, you'd be like, not this nigga, right.

1709
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 3: There are so many with black and queer people in

1710
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 3: the movement that these same dudes trash, but when one

1711
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 3: of them get in trouble, they want the same black

1712
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 3: women and queer people to speak up for the fuck

1713
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 3: out of here. It's a shame he's in prison, and

1714
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 3: if he's in there for self defense like he said

1715
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 3: he was, but maybe his rich Beverly Hills and SOHO

1716
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 3: friends can help him out.

1717
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

1718
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 3: Nobody's required to have empathy or care for that dude.

1719
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 3: And the whole point I was trying to make about

1720
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 3: this situation, especially in the light of the ice cream

1721
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 3: liquor shit, was like, Nah, this is the proof I'm

1722
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 3: talking about. We extend empathy and make those arguments for

1723
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 3: people we care about. You know, I'm sure Joe Budden

1724
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 3: wasn't on Twitter talking about ice cream liquor. Girl just

1725
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: needs a slap on the wrist and dah da dah

1726
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 3: if he talked about it at all, right, right, but

1727
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 3: this is his friend, so now he's like, we gotta

1728
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 3: get this motherfucker out of jail. This is this is

1729
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 3: a miscarriacter justice, right. It's you, the things you.

1730
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: Feel affected by or that affect your group of people

1731
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: that you care about.

1732
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, it's different for all the other shit,

1733
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 3: you know, even the people that are, oh, no jail

1734
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 3: for this person. They was laughing at this, at this

1735
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 3: dude possibly going to prison and inhumane conditions in another

1736
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 3: country for defending himself. They was laughing at it, or

1737
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 3: at the very minimum, they were expressing how much they

1738
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 3: didn't care, which is also something you can keep to

1739
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 3: yourself if you want to. You're not No one can

1740
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 3: make you care, so if you don't, you but folks

1741
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 3: wanted to express how much they didn't care.

1742
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 2: They want to make a point out of this. I

1743
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 2: don't like this nigga, and I'm.

1744
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 3: Glad he in jail, you know, Like I said, I

1745
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 3: can relate to that shit because that's way more honest

1746
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: than that.

1747
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone should go to prison.

1748
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 3: I'm a prison of abolition and shit that people be

1749
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: pulling when it's just a certain person doing a crime.

1750
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: Agreed, that's not honest. Let's be honest.

1751
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 3: What's honest is I'm a dance a jig the day

1752
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: R Kelly is sentenced. Okay, I'm gonna be on Instagram

1753
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 3: partying it up because fuck him. No, I'm not if

1754
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 3: that make me not a prison abolitionist, and I guess

1755
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1756
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 2: Fuck it anyway.

1757
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: Did anyone tamper with food in the store go to jail?

1758
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: Anyone that's tampering with food in the store go to jail? Yes, yes,

1759
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 3: some of them should go. Yes, all of them should go. No,

1760
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: they just need to be talked to. Now, was shocked

1761
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: by the results of this zero percenting y'all think they

1762
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: should be talk to. None of you hippies listen to

1763
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 3: our show.

1764
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: Wow kind of shock. Thirty nine percent of y'all.

1765
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 3: Said some of them should go to jail, at sixty

1766
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 3: two percent said. Sixty one percent said yeah, all of

1767
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 3: them should go to jail.

1768
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: Fucking food.

1769
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: Brooklyn shoe Bay said they should go to jail, and

1770
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: the sentence sentences should be based on a level of

1771
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: temperance and intent. Also mandatory soup kitchen community service hours. Yeah,

1772
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: where they can tamper with the homeless people food. I

1773
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 3: don't know about that one. Whatever the community service be,

1774
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: it can't be no food involved.

1775
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1776
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 3: Alicia says, I don't play about my food. Blue Wave

1777
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 3: Rober says, I really like ice cream.

1778
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 2: But these niggas got me pulling up funk out of here.

1779
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 3: Maybe instead of jail time, they should be injected with

1780
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 3: salmonella hysterias punishment.

1781
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 2: And by the way, if y'all keep taking days off,

1782
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go premium. How about that. You

1783
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 2: might have to because we all taking more days off

1784
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: electric chair even he says electric chair.

1785
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 3: Oh well yeah, I mean, look, we need time. We

1786
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 3: gotta think about ourselves and all the stuff.

1787
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: That we can do. Uh Now, some of y'all did

1788
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: leave messages, and I can't remember.

1789
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 3: Where to start with this because it's been I think

1790
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: seven was our last feedback show, so I guess a

1791
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 3: man's messages will be the first one. So mine left

1792
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: us like three messages seven one, yeah, on seven three?

1793
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 2: She left three messages, right.

1794
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, the last few, but those show was six.

1795
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 7: This is mine.

1796
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 3: Wait, the last feedback show was when I tell you

1797
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 3: was because the day is the thirteenth.

1798
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So the last feedback show was the not

1799
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: the six because we took that week off six.

1800
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 5: It was the twenty ninth.

1801
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: All right, let me get back to this.

1802
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 6: Guys a great break this week, So this isn't about

1803
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 6: the feedback show of last week. And bright, me and

1804
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 6: my sister we had a ball in the debates. I mean,

1805
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 6: I'm definitely more jouble to watch with a buddy because

1806
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 6: you were just joking. And the first Sundays, I was like,

1807
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 6: I'm not learning any of these people's names, and the

1808
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 6: second one, I've just given everybody next names of course,

1809
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 6: you know Joe and Tamala and Bernie. And then we

1810
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 6: were like orange tig guy and witchy haired lady wasn't

1811
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 6: the last name Williamson, I am, It's like whatever. And

1812
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 6: we were like, oh, like the prequel, like Hillary the prequel,

1813
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 6: like with the blonde woman.

1814
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what she did.

1815
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 6: I think she was she a mayor or governor. I

1816
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 6: don't know. It's just so many people, but we did

1817
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,839
Speaker 6: have a ball. We were just like joking about everything.

1818
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 6: But even after after that, it's like we're talking like.

1819
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: Oh, she broke up. Oh is that the end of

1820
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: the message.

1821
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 5: Maybe she faded away.

1822
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: Man, we lost it. I'll try to go to the

1823
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: next message. I don't know if she knows she broke

1824
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 2: up or.

1825
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 4: Or not.

1826
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: Maybe she just had some bad service or something.

1827
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 6: Hey if you mom again. So the second thing was

1828
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 6: about the caller.

1829
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 7: She talked about the valuetorian speech, and you know, I

1830
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 7: was with her and understanding of the empathetic about you know,

1831
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 7: what happened to that counselor and her daughter and everything,

1832
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 7: and that's completely understandable.

1833
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 6: But once she said, oh.

1834
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 7: You know, students today are so entitled and they have

1835
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 7: Google and the Internet and they still have the library,

1836
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 7: I was just like sirts, like no, And it just

1837
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 7: made like I was in my feelings for three straight

1838
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 7: days because I was just like, it's like bubbled up

1839
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,959
Speaker 7: all my old hurt and pains from my school counselor

1840
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 7: like dropping the ball several times with me, and I

1841
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 7: was really just felt really glad by the time when

1842
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 7: you know, she was making a round with kids with

1843
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 7: good grades and great test scores that I didn't need her,

1844
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 7: and then she brought me into the office. I was

1845
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 7: like I don't need to talk to you about my

1846
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 7: plans because I don't need you.

1847
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 6: It's like, and I definitely don't want your help because

1848
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 6: you've dropped the ball with me so many other times

1849
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 6: with important things. And I really had to get myself

1850
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 6: together because I had made all that old hurt come

1851
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 6: up and I was just like Okay, I was like

1852
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 6: I didn't want to just call in about my old

1853
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 6: hurt and trauma from high school. But yeah, you the

1854
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 6: Google is a wild West. There's so and lets you

1855
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 6: know what you need to google or you know, search

1856
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 6: or look in the library because there's so many different

1857
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 6: types of scholarships for the school that schools you're applied

1858
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 6: to have you know, a list of scholarship just for

1859
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 6: their school that they have for certain majors. Unless they

1860
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 6: have that, you know, you don't already know what you're

1861
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 6: looking for. And then there are scholarships that you need

1862
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 6: to be nominated for. So if you're a good student,

1863
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 6: sometimes you need to be nominated for those scholarships. And

1864
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 6: your counselor can go to a teacher and say, hey,

1865
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 6: can you watch this student.

1866
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 3: Oh things you got to cut off because you hit

1867
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 3: the limit last one and of course that's a lot

1868
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 3: on again.

1869
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 6: So anyway, that's all I really had to say about

1870
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 6: those two things. And I love you guys, and I

1871
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 6: hope you had a great break and yeah, so that's

1872
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 6: it all right, love you guys. But like, oh, in

1873
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 6: Spider Man was so great.

1874
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 7: You had so much fun watching it me and my daughter.

1875
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 3: It's like it was just so good.

1876
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 6: Anyway, I about to listen to your swell movie movie

1877
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 6: review about it.

1878
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 8: Love y'all.

1879
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 3: Thank you, Amy, And yeah, like I said, man.

1880
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: That that Google, it's hard.

1881
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 3: Man.

1882
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: The scholarship thing is, you know, it's hard.

1883
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 3: And I understand how that that student mayfl you know,

1884
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they that that was the best

1885
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 3: way to handle it, but totally understand.

1886
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 2: How they might have felt and frustration.

1887
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and also you know the context of

1888
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 3: knowing what happened to the counselor and losing a loved

1889
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 3: one like that that you know that sucks as well.

1890
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: All right, next voicemail, I think it's from James. Let's

1891
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: see what this one?

1892
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 8: How you doing, broun and carry? It's your bulls mass

1893
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 8: crimpis And I wanted to respond to your tweet about

1894
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 8: the paying serious gallops. M family, you are so right,

1895
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 8: and I wanted to tell you the first time I

1896
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 8: had him, Oh my gosh. Oh you know, I'm a

1897
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 8: blue collar dude, you know, grew up humble, big mom.

1898
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 8: So you just be thankful for everything. I was a

1899
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 8: double stacked player, two double stacked, no man nigs and

1900
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 8: a four piece of it. But I was fortunate enough

1901
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 8: to get to invited to one of these NFL players

1902
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 8: celebrity weekend, who was blessed, got the hook up and

1903
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 8: on the upper deck they had the people with the

1904
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 8: suits coming out with orders, you know, like here, sir,

1905
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 8: try to try to So I wanted to get out

1906
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 8: my little comfort zone. I was like, all right, let

1907
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 8: me let me get that over there. It was the

1908
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 8: scallops with baking wrapped around the family. You ever bent something,

1909
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 8: and it was so good. You start making order at theself.

1910
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 8: You got a life, come back to life a little bit,

1911
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 8: you go, oh, shoot, where am I at?

1912
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: God?

1913
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 8: I feel you babies, nothing better than a pants here scallop.

1914
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 8: I hope y'all had a good holiday. I missed y'all.

1915
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna be like these other people and brown

1916
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 8: nose and say, oh, take the time you I need

1917
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 8: you back, take.

1918
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 3: Thank you and uh nigga, yes I had. I remember

1919
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 3: the first time I had a bacon wrap scallop.

1920
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 4: It was.

1921
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 2: YACKATORI.

1922
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 3: Uh so, you guys know that's like these skewers that

1923
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 3: they have in Japanese restaurants. A lot of times it's

1924
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 3: just like chicken or steak or something. But uh, if

1925
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 3: they had bacon rap scallop, yackatory, y'all, I'm talking, it

1926
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 3: melts in your mouth.

1927
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, at least you're right. You really do

1928
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 2: make the orgasm sound.

1929
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 3: If you want to know what a person sounds like

1930
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 3: when they're coming, give them a bacon wraps panciers scallop.

1931
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 2: Because you were here, what they what? What their what?

1932
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 3: Their orgasm noise is that moan It's gonna come all

1933
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 3: the way out. There's probably men who don't moan during

1934
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 3: sex that definitely moan when they eat them fucking scallops. Dog,

1935
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 3: it is impossible not like And then somebody tried to

1936
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 3: throw out there listen. As with all Twitter things, I

1937
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 3: was making a general statement. It was really just about

1938
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 3: celebrating something, but I did state it in a way

1939
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 3: that it just invites motherfuckers that don't know how to

1940
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 3: how to get down with the vibe. How you know,

1941
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 3: I just basically invited them to like say something stupid.

1942
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 3: So I was like, is there anything better than a

1943
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 3: pants heer scallop because oh my god, so good, and

1944
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 3: somebody was like, yeah, raw oysters, yeah, oysters, And I

1945
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 3: said raw. It was like yeah, then they think they

1946
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 3: thought that meant I had never had a olster oyster.

1947
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, over pancier scallop, doude, I don't see it.

1948
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 2: I don't see it. So but yeah, it was.

1949
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 3: It was kind of sad that, you know, it turned

1950
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 3: into that kind of thread, don't I can't never talk

1951
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 3: about food on social media.

1952
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 2: It always turns ugly.

1953
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, people to make you mad.

1954
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 1: And I know this might sound real ignorant, but I

1955
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: remember the very first time that I had an egg yep,

1956
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: because I'm black in Southern when it came to egg

1957
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: my eggs was harble scramble overhormed.

1958
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 5: We ain't had no other egg options.

1959
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what the fucking poast egg was

1960
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: until I started working at I Hop and I learned

1961
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 1: what a post egg was when the customer asked me,

1962
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: do y'all do post eggs? And I looked at him

1963
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: like like you was talking a foreign language and had

1964
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: to wash the cook What the fucks of post egg

1965
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 1: So I didn't know. And I remember I was working

1966
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: at I Hob and the the cooks in the back

1967
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: of cooking up something and they was like, yeah.

1968
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 5: Can't you want us to make you a sandwich?

1969
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, And they had a I'm gonna

1970
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: say it was one of the it was up on

1971
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: a biscuit.

1972
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 5: No, it was a sandwich.

1973
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 1: It had like uh over like an over like over

1974
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: medium egg with like bacon and all this stuff on it.

1975
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: I've been into that bitch, and that egg just melted

1976
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: in your mouth and like the flavor just burst it out.

1977
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: And I was like I have been I felt like

1978
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I had been cheated in life, like I was a

1979
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 1: goddamn adult when that was the first time I had

1980
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 1: ever had any eggs other than the ones I explained above,

1981
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 1: and my life has never been the same.

1982
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.

1983
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 3: I really don't like post eggs. I don't like the

1984
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 3: kind that come with the that's it kind of come

1985
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 3: with the holidays, like that shit, like is that the.

1986
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 2: Eggs?

1987
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

1988
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

1989
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, no, but but I was talking

1990
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 5: about like an over easy and not a post egg.

1991
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 2: Oh over easy, like they put on the burger right right.

1992
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 1: That was the first time I ever had that. But

1993
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: I was staring about to post it because I didn't

1994
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 1: even know what a post egg was until that experience. Like, so,

1995
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 1: I was just gonna tell you I knew nothing about

1996
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 1: eggs other than over hard, hard board or scrambled. That

1997
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: was about the only three different types of eggs I

1998
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 1: thought they've.

1999
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 3: Existed, even with like the sunny side up eggs, like

2000
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 3: they're looking at you, even with the Sunday side up eggs,

2001
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 3: like sometimes they come with like ramen and that's delicious,

2002
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 3: like mix it up in there, and they always look

2003
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 3: so good and take good pictures.

2004
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 2: Like anyway, this is a total tangent. They we're not

2005
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 2: supposed to be on all right? Was that the last?

2006
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 2: I think we got one? More voicemail? Okay, I'm not

2007
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: sure it's from but they have left voicemails before.

2008
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 9: So Hi, Rod and Karen, Happy Saturday. This is Jen

2009
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 9: calling from Brooklyn. He's showing some love. I love you, guys,

2010
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 9: and I haven't called in a very very long time.

2011
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 9: I have been listening for three or four apartments, which

2012
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 9: I move a lot, so that's really only like four

2013
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 9: years listening for a minute. And I love you guys,

2014
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 9: and you definitely make my week go by fast. I'm

2015
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 9: a little late on this, but I wanted to say

2016
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 9: thank you for the medium talk with the productor. I'm

2017
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 9: actually from North Carolina and I grew up singing like

2018
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 9: opera and classical music because that's really like the only

2019
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 9: options I felt like I had in my high school

2020
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 9: and things like that, and it just took me back

2021
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 9: because I felt like that being a black woman in

2022
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,560
Speaker 9: that space, there was so many ways to be excluded

2023
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 9: and there's so many things that stopped me from being

2024
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 9: really a part of classical music culture.

2025
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,879
Speaker 2: And him talking to you really.

2026
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 9: Brought all that back, and it really put me off

2027
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 9: to the point where I ended up steering over to

2028
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 9: contemporary music and that's where I'm at the day, and

2029
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 9: I'm thankful for that, but just interesting because growing up

2030
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 9: I really did not have a space there, and I

2031
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 9: was surrounded by white people who are just kind of

2032
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 9: thriving in that industry and had, like, you know, so

2033
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 9: much praise, and I really didn't have a space there,

2034
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 9: so that was super amazing to hear his perspective. I

2035
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 9: wish him the best of luck.

2036
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 2: He was hilarious, he was heated, he was verbose and heated,

2037
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 2: and it just cracked me up.

2038
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,919
Speaker 9: Anyway, I love you guys, thank you so much for everything.

2039
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 9: And I'm so glad that I finally whatstening long enough

2040
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 9: to have heard it a couple of times. I love

2041
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,760
Speaker 9: you guys, have a great week all.

2042
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jen, thank you, and thank you for enjoying

2043
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 2: the medium Talk.

2044
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: That one was a really good and really educational. That

2045
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: was a really smooth, laid back conversation.

2046
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 5: Learned so much. He has like a wealth of knowledge.

2047
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love that. How much feedback we got

2048
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: on it.

2049
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 3: How many people just let let me know that they

2050
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 3: enjoyed that conversation, So I appreciate y'all.

2051
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 2: Hold on, let's go to the next segment real quick.

2052
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pause the podcast.

2053
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,560
Speaker 3: And I'm glad that person also called in because it

2054
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 3: reminds me that Brandy Keith Brown left a comment on

2055
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 3: our episode of Medium Talk. He said, the outpouring of

2056
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 3: support for Rod's interview on me has been enormous, I

2057
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 3: knew my story would resonate, but never in this way.

2058
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 3: I hope that people will learn from my blindness regarding

2059
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 3: white fragility and racism and academia. No matter if we

2060
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 3: work three times hard, we will never be enough for

2061
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: white institutions. Thank you so much, Rod for allowing me

2062
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 3: the opportunity to tell my story with all my heart.

2063
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 3: You are a male Oprah in the making. Aha, It's true, y'all.

2064
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 3: Some of these questions caught me, y'all, guard to change

2065
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 3: my perspective on the spot. It's exciting to be interviewed

2066
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 3: by someone so skilled.

2067
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

2068
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 3: Classical music is a feel blacks have been excluded from

2069
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 3: for years. The podcast proves that many people are interested

2070
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 3: in the genre but may have not had the exposure

2071
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 3: they need to lifelong consumers. Thank you for everyone for

2072
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 3: tuning in to Rod and Karen show and show some

2073
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 3: love with the hearty donation. Please follow me on the

2074
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:41,799
Speaker 3: ground at Brandon Keith Brown Conductor and my Facebook page.

2075
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 2: Hey you guys, come so Thank you Brandon Keith Brown.

2076
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 2: I appreciate it and you make me think.

2077
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: Just going back and listening to the conversation remembory things

2078
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 1: I think that's really the first time, and I noticed

2079
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 1: my sound silly, but I can't be the only one.

2080
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: One of the first times I actually got introduced the

2081
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: classical music was cartoons Tom and Jerry, When Tom and

2082
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Jerry used to have these big things and they would

2083
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: be playing like the classical music like in the background.

2084
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: That was the first time you were hearing things like

2085
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: like I'm talking about like the real class like most

2086
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: art and all that shit, like like shit that. For

2087
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people, they hear it all the time. Yep,

2088
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 1: bugs bunny too, and a lot of times they would

2089
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,560
Speaker 1: be having like running around and shit like that and

2090
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: kill the rabbit, Kill the rabbit, you know, and.

2091
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 5: Shit like that. Like they would actually be singing operas

2092
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 5: to you.

2093
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: But it be one of those things where as a kid,

2094
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: you just consume it and you listen to the music,

2095
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: not thinking twice of the history literally of what they're

2096
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: introducing to you. And it wasn't until I got older

2097
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 1: that I realized, oh, this is opera, Oh, this is classical.

2098
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 5: Oh this is such and such, Oh this is most like.

2099
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 5: I didn't put that together until later on in life.

2100
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: So these things are actually very very important to introduce

2101
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: to children at a small at a young age, even

2102
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: if it's through the quote unquote the thing that a

2103
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 1: lot of parents shit on once they get older, it

2104
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: is cartoons.

2105
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 5: Children learn from cartoons.

2106
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think even like Fantasia with h Disney,

2107
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 3: I had a lot of that classical music and and shit,

2108
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 3: so like, yeah, I definitely remember all that stuff. All right,

2109
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 3: we got emails. I apologize in advance for my email.

2110
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 3: If it doesn't make you laugh, please skip over and

2111
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 3: miss you guys. Dear Carol and Rob Morrow. I'm writing

2112
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 3: to you from my butt hurt Feelings island in East Africa,

2113
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 3: a beautiful island unknown by the.

2114
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 2: Outside world except Drake.

2115
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 3: I love that black people have finally been cast in

2116
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 3: the King of Lines, twenty plus years after it has

2117
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 3: been made with white South Africans like John Taylor Thomas

2118
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 3: and Jeremy Ironing. But I am so angry about the

2119
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 3: shit of bull that is to follow. How come they

2120
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 3: get to portray African stories using animals? Why couldn't the

2121
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 3: East Africans be cast in this East African story?

2122
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 4: Man?

2123
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:52,839
Speaker 2: Can y'all imagine they had actual black.

2124
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,560
Speaker 3: People as the Lion King animals instead of like the

2125
01:40:55,760 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 3: CGI animals, boy Woo talk about some problems who allowed

2126
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 3: Disney Walter Walter Disney to trademark Hakuna matata pronounce the

2127
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 3: teas please, Brother Rob and sister Carol, a phrase that

2128
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 3: we've had in East Africa almost since the beginning of Swahili,

2129
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 3: which is the East African language used in the King

2130
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 3: of Lines from time to time. Uh, the crack and

2131
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 3: the coloque, the crack and colony lism with Jenda must

2132
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 3: be this mantle and throw in in the end.

2133
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 2: Oh all right, think I did that right, which I

2134
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 2: swim at every day.

2135
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 3: I sent this what I sent my West African friends

2136
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 3: in Chicago to begin this work with Jesse Smoley and

2137
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,719
Speaker 3: have heard very good things about their friendship.

2138
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: But I haven't heard from them in a while. All

2139
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 2: they are still doing good things together. Oh I don't

2140
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 2: think so.

2141
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 3: Soon Jesse will be know as the greatest actor in

2142
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 3: living memory. Finally, I would like to propose to a

2143
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 3: girl named Lizzo for her BT performance in this interview

2144
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 3: on the Insta on the grammar of Insta that's a

2145
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 3: link to the Instagram. She is very very invited to

2146
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 3: live with me, but her feelings allen. But she what

2147
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 3: she's done taking over the world. You and Carol can

2148
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 3: also visit us any time for any reason, with a

2149
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 3: lot of love. How about beth Andy ps? Is it

2150
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 3: true it's Teddy Murphy really doing going to America again?

2151
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 3: Should I send my Nigerian friends to dissuade him? I

2152
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 3: don't listen.

2153
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna. I don't know how much of that

2154
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 2: is offensive or not.

2155
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 3: But she does have an African last name, so I'm

2156
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 3: just saying, like who the person wrote that email?

2157
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 2: It's more like an inside joke. So, but obviously I

2158
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 2: do not find any of the typo's and stuff funny.

2159
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 2: It was funny rogering just for Crystal.

2160
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 3: Crystal says, matter of fact, it says grit cis anti

2161
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:55,799
Speaker 3: Northern Blackness. Matter of fact, Karen, you're cool and are important,

2162
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 3: your epicurean ally, you love everything as a means of

2163
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 3: solidary to different tasting individuals. And I appreciate you as

2164
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 3: an epicurious American, but rid as a chocolate milkshake I exposed.

2165
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 2: I expected more from you, just to be let down

2166
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 2: over and over again.

2167
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like different strokes with different folks, but

2168
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:18,480
Speaker 3: the constant vitrioll of the gluecoase grit sin is disgusting,

2169
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 3: and once again I will I.

2170
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,520
Speaker 2: Was gonna let bygones be bygones.

2171
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 3: With the last or second to last feedback show. But

2172
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 3: when you had the black eyed p audacity to put

2173
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:32,600
Speaker 3: that dang on everything thing bagel on them is mash Califlowers,

2174
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 3: I got triggered and the grits hit the fan.

2175
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 2: Now you like everything seasoning on everything but bagels. I'm

2176
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 2: not gonna re explain.

2177
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna re explain to you how do everything

2178
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 3: bagel thing work? Those those episodes are absolutely on the

2179
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 3: archive feed. You can go on the website just search

2180
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 3: everything Bagels, and y'all will see that everything she is

2181
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 3: typed is nonsense. Okay, I never had a problem with

2182
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 3: the season Now I own everything bagel seasoning. I don't

2183
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 3: know where this came from that you don't like everything seasoning. No,

2184
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 3: I'm just saying a bagel needs to be specialized, and

2185
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 3: you can't specialize in everything.

2186
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: It's impossible. Every other Bagels better.

2187
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 3: Queen needs to put you back in the pit next

2188
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 3: to Donald Trump forever. I ate one of your stupid

2189
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 3: ass everything bagels New Yorkers, y'all should all be happy.

2190
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 3: I put it on video and everything for y'all as

2191
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 3: a means of truth. Okay, So if y'all can't let

2192
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 3: it go, it's really your fun everything leave leave everything

2193
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 3: bagels out of your sugar grits agenda. Try to turn

2194
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 3: this into everything bagels like it got something to do

2195
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 3: with sugar grits. There's nothing to do with each other,

2196
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 3: not just for the everything bagel shade, but the constant

2197
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 3: shame and judging that overall glucose grit phobia stop. I

2198
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 3: admit some may call me up curious with my grits.

2199
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 3: As a I had my glucose gritzy and phase with

2200
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:07,839
Speaker 3: then I was by gritziel. Now I practicing savory gritzel

2201
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 3: for decades. But who are you to judge a young

2202
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 3: one or not so young one who deell's in the

2203
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 3: gluco pond.

2204
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 2: Nah, you that just to me shows a lack of

2205
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 2: parental guidance in your life. I don't.

2206
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 3: I don't blame you as a young person for eating

2207
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 3: sugar grits. I blame whoever in your house did to

2208
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 3: stop you. Some of the best times of my life

2209
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 3: are volved around my glucose gritsy and phase. But I

2210
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 3: outgrew that, but I cherished those moments forever and would

2211
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 3: fight for the right of all Americans and all black

2212
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 3: people throughout the dash for to eat they grits or

2213
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,719
Speaker 3: whatever hot cereal in the manners they choose.

2214
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 2: Period.

2215
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure some people had great times on opioids

2216
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 3: and crack, but that doesn't mean that doesn't mean we

2217
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 3: should allow everybody to do it. Hus and kisses to

2218
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 3: Karen only Miss chryscival Ps, I love you too, Rod.

2219
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 2: I'm just playing all right. She didn't write that, but

2220
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 2: that's what she's thinking. Shana Shanna right saying thoughts on abolition.

2221
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 3: First of all, I want to send affirmation of y'all

2222
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 3: taking time off the Black Autists the lungest relationship I've

2223
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 3: been in at this point, so I had to.

2224
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Do without a few episodes.

2225
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 3: So y'all can still have the stamina to continue doing

2226
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 3: what you're doing for several more years.

2227
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 2: I'll deal.

2228
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 3: I know y'all have mentioned in prison abolition a lot lately,

2229
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 3: most recently regarding the bluebel Girl, and I just wanted

2230
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 3: to share my thoughts to someone who has been a

2231
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:25,600
Speaker 3: prison abolitionist for most of my adult life. And by that,

2232
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 3: I don't mean that it says that in my Twitter bio.

2233
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:32,640
Speaker 3: I mean I actively work with prison abolitionist movements, an

2234
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 3: organization for several years in three states. In my experience,

2235
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 3: actual prison abolitionists engaging working towards a world without prisons.

2236
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 3: They know there's a lot of work that has to

2237
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 3: happen before that becomes real, But if we're working towards it,

2238
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 3: then we're doing the right thing. I think one of

2239
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 3: the core values of prison abolition, which predates the Internet,

2240
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,600
Speaker 3: is to interrogate our ideas about safety, justice, and accountability,

2241
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 3: which is exactly what these internet activists don't do, as

2242
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 3: you both pointed out. Yeah, like I said, man, I'm

2243
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 3: not trying to belittle the idea of people that are

2244
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 3: working towards a world with you know, and they say

2245
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 3: a world without prisons. But you know, my assumption is

2246
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 3: if they're serious, they still have some sort of plans

2247
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 3: for people that are.

2248
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 2: Literally just dangerous to society.

2249
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some rules of regulations.

2250
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2251
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 3: The problem is once it gets online, people say these

2252
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:32,799
Speaker 3: quippi black and white, simple one hundred and forty character sayings,

2253
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 3: and they're just not true and That's the point I'm

2254
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,599
Speaker 3: playing out, is like, it's not even true to your

2255
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:40,640
Speaker 3: belief system because you're not actually a prison abolitionist. You

2256
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 3: just don't want to see this current person we're talking

2257
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 3: about get in trouble because as soon as it's somebody

2258
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 3: you don't like, you're right back to saying, well, fuck them, right,

2259
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 3: you know. And that's the point I was making on

2260
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 3: the show. You know, I'm not mocking prison abolitionists as

2261
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 3: a point because I you know, I've said, We've talked

2262
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,839
Speaker 3: about it limps the ills of the criminal justice system,

2263
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 3: or privatize prison, the inhumane conditions in prison, the lack

2264
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 3: of the way they charge and monetize contact with your family.

2265
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, contact lack of contact with your.

2266
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,600
Speaker 3: Family is like one of the number one contributors to

2267
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 3: read re entering prison, right, So you know, and I'm

2268
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 3: sure you said you've been listening this for a long time,

2269
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 3: so I know you know that we're not sitting around like, yeah, man,

2270
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 3: prison abolition is stupid, man, Like, that's not the point.

2271
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 3: Is just I know, as an EmPATH, right, as an EmPATH,

2272
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 3: sometimes I'll just be looking at people and I'm like,

2273
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,600
Speaker 3: that's not even what the fuck you mean, just be

2274
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 3: honest with yourself, because you line to mean, you line

2275
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 3: in yourself, like I already know the truth. It's not

2276
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 3: about prison abolition. You don't want to see a black

2277
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 3: girl go to jail, and you know what, I can

2278
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 3: get behind that, agreed. I also don't want to see

2279
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 3: a black girl go to jail, you know, Like I

2280
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,639
Speaker 3: feel what she did was fucked up, blah blah blah,

2281
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 3: but I don't want to see her go to jail

2282
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 3: for twenty years over this shit. And and there may

2283
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 3: be some people that do feel like she should go

2284
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 3: to jail twenty years, but I bet you there's a

2285
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 3: lot more of us that would be like, yeah, that's

2286
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:14,799
Speaker 3: a lot, that's a lot.

2287
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 5: But they can't be It can't be punishment free either.

2288
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you see what I'm saying.

2289
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 3: It's like there's a lot of us that are like,

2290
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to see anything really bad happening to her.

2291
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:28,600
Speaker 3: Hopefully she gets scared and understands like this could have

2292
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 3: got real, This is very dangerous. Other people seeing this

2293
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 3: seeds that hey, she got in a little bit of

2294
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:35,719
Speaker 3: trouble and it could have been worse.

2295
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: So let me not do it. You know that's it.

2296
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 3: Instead, people are out there throwing prison They do this

2297
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 3: all the time, though, but they throw like these big

2298
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 3: activist words in front of shit that it's not a

2299
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 3: big activism thing.

2300
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 2: You just did.

2301
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 3: You just feel a certain way, and that's okay. You

2302
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 3: don't have to justify it by turned into a cause anyway.

2303
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 3: That's my opinion. I also think you're right to point

2304
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 3: out how these folks don't have to live in a

2305
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 3: real world, and the problem with that is that these

2306
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 3: internet politics have real world consequence with people who actually

2307
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 3: do know what the solutions are and working towards them.

2308
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 3: For example, I currently work with an organization that's working

2309
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 3: on closing a local prison because of the egregious and

2310
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 3: justices that happen there. These folks who run this org

2311
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,679
Speaker 3: are people who have been incarcerated and have been attended

2312
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 3: city council hearers to advocate for urgently necessary reforms and

2313
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 3: better policies.

2314
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 2: At first step of a million towards abolition.

2315
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 3: They've been getting shouted down by self proclaimed abolitionists who

2316
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 3: have no plan and no solution except to say.

2317
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 2: They don't want new jails. Those are mostly folks.

2318
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 3: These are mostly folks who have never been to prison,

2319
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 3: who don't understand that people's lives are at stake and

2320
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 3: these people have immediate needs that should be met, and

2321
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 3: sometimes that means reform instead of abolition, instead of just

2322
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 3: being symbols of somebody's politics.

2323
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:50,759
Speaker 2: Listen, read, listen. That's I think that's why.

2324
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,640
Speaker 3: It's so offensive to me, right, it's because when you

2325
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 3: start couching the shit in these simple ass like I'm

2326
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 3: just and it happens a lot with politics on media,

2327
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 3: which is, like I said, why I don't engage folks

2328
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 3: on it anymore because people would rather look a certain

2329
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 3: way for clout than to fucking have an actual.

2330
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 2: Solution, you know what I mean.

2331
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 3: And I know it's gonna sound like I'm shaving her,

2332
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 3: and maybe it's a little shade. I'll take that, but

2333
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 3: it's kind of what why I'm a little bit I'm

2334
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 3: a little bit cynical towards like Alexandria Castio Cortez and

2335
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 3: her crew. Where I respect them, I still have to

2336
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 3: understand like they're still politicians and they and it's funny,

2337
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 3: but in a way they've kind of appropriated the Twitter

2338
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 3: tactics but turned it into like real life politician moves

2339
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 3: and and you know, Twitter tactics work to a certain extent,

2340
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 3: but a lot of times they have these failings of oversimplification,

2341
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 3: of of a lot of performative type, you know, like

2342
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 3: this optics of this look good, but it didn't do anything.

2343
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 3: They have a lot of that as well, you know

2344
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I think all politicians have it.

2345
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's not it's not exclusive to her and

2346
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 3: her crew, but they're really fucking good at it because

2347
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 3: they came in this generation more savvy with that kind

2348
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 3: of shit.

2349
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, like somebody studied.

2350
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know that Instagram they I mean, I don't

2351
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 3: even know his study. They just know it like the

2352
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 3: back of the hand, the way we know certain things

2353
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 3: because we just grew up more with it than the

2354
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 3: other people in there, and the old ass people in

2355
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 3: Congress don't know all that shit. So they're much better

2356
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,759
Speaker 3: at like making one hundred and forty characters or thread

2357
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 3: or Instagram or something to be like this very simple

2358
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 3: thing is all we need to do and it'll fix everything.

2359
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 3: And that's easier to do on Twitter surrounded by people

2360
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,799
Speaker 3: that mostly agree with you, or people that when they disagree,

2361
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 3: they're just trolls, so you can easily write them off.

2362
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 2: Agreed, it's easier to do that.

2363
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 3: But then when it's like, let's sit down at the

2364
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 3: table across from each other and figure out a solution

2365
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 3: that will actually pass, it's not as easy. Our country

2366
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,680
Speaker 3: isn't all on board with that shit, and it's like,

2367
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 3: how do you get them people on board? Because it's

2368
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 3: not only gonna happen via Twitter.

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01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 2: So I think that's one of the things that that's.

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01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 3: Kind of fucked up is that people will be like,

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01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 3: I'm a prison abolitionist, Okay, cool. Somebody else who's actually

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01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 3: working in this industry or in this world dealing like, okay,

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01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 3: so what we're gonna need to do is take some

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01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 3: steps towards making prison less harsh on people. And there's

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01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 3: somebody else in the room like, nah, fuck that we want.

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01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 3: We don't want it to be less harsh. It needs

2377
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 3: to just go away. I'm not willing to come to

2378
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 3: the table to y'all just say it goes away.

2379
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 2: And it's that kind of shit where I'm like, you

2380
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 2: can do that on Twitter.

2381
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:42,160
Speaker 3: In real life, you just sentenced thousands of more people

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01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 3: to have a hard or worse state than they would

2383
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 3: have to death because you.

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01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 2: Want to look a certain way. You know.

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01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 3: It was one of the things when I did that

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01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 3: interview with a man from CUT fifty. And I know

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01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't like it because it's Van Jones' organization,

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01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 3: But I found that interview to be I opening, because

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01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know about some of the other initiatives that

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01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 3: they got passed.

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01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't know.

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01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 3: About, you know, pregnant women being handcuffed in prison that

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01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 3: they passed the lo against.

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01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 2: You know, that was part of that reform.

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01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 3: Uh, women's access to to like minstrel to the things

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01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:18,799
Speaker 3: for that period, that was part of that reform.

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01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: A percentage of time like all.

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01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 3: Like quote unquote good time accumulating faster, that was part

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01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:27,759
Speaker 3: of that reform.

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01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 2: Now do I think I.

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01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 3: Mean, obviously, I'm like, fuck Trump, and I don't think

2402
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 3: that Trump has the best interest of those people in mind.

2403
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 3: And I think that when he says when he quotes

2404
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 3: that shit to be like, I don't do anything for blacks.

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01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 3: I did prison reform. It's like, well, that's racist as fuck.

2406
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 3: That only associate those two things. But okay, okay, it

2407
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 3: is better than it was before. And as they called

2408
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 3: it the first step. At one step, I knew people.

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01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 1: I know.

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01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 2: I saw people who obviously have never talked to these folks,

2411
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 2: never examined that, never question them, just go nah. Fuck.

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01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 3: The whole thing is Van Jones, It's Trump. Nothing good

2413
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 3: can possibly come of it. And to me, that's ridiculous,

2414
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 3: right because you're actually talking about people that have been

2415
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 3: let out of jail now because of these because of

2416
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 3: this step back, first step back, So there are tangible

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01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 3: results in people getting out of prison. What you're saying

2418
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 3: to me is I'd rather those people stay in prison

2419
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 3: than for Trump to get any of the credit for

2420
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 3: signing the bill, then for Van Jones to be the

2421
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:34,959
Speaker 3: one that gets some credit for signing the bill, because.

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01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 2: I don't like those two people.

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01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 3: And to me, that's so that's such a Twitter thing,

2424
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 3: that's such a social media thing.

2425
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 2: I can take that stance.

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01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 3: Fuck everybody. I'm the realest motherfucker. I say, just let

2427
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 3: them out. You know, it's like, okay, dog, but what

2428
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 3: about reality?

2429
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 2: Because you know that's not feasible and you know no

2430
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 2: one's gonna do that.

2431
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 3: So then you get to walk around packing yourself on

2432
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 3: the back because you got the brilliant idea of just

2433
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 3: fuck everything, let everybody out, but it's not gonna happen.

2434
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 2: So all you did was say fuck everybody that's.

2435
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 3: In there already, right anyway, I will admit, even though

2436
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 3: I consider myself a committed prison abolitionist, I don't always

2437
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 3: have to answer these tough ethical questions. But there are

2438
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 3: lots of people who are part of the movement who

2439
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 3: do have solutions, who do have plans, and who do

2440
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:19,480
Speaker 3: have alternatives. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they are, man,

2441
01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 3: But I mean, the end of the day, some of

2442
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 3: this shit you ain't gonna be able to solve.

2443
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 2: It don't even matter how like. And I say that

2444
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 2: with all confidence, because I.

2445
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 3: Mean, if we're gonna have restorative social like justice and shit,

2446
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 3: and a motherfucker rob me and out of side like

2447
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 3: and they go, well, what centator, victim, what do you want? Rod,

2448
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 3: y'all might not agree with what the fuck I want?

2449
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 3: And so your solution is not actually centering me. It

2450
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 3: still has parameters on it. And that's what all justice

2451
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 3: system's gonna have to have some parameters on what the

2452
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 3: fuck justice is and the definition of it. So it's

2453
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 3: just by nature of any system that would seek to

2454
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 3: rehabilitate and incarcerrat, punish.

2455
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 2: Whatever, pick the words you want to pick. All of

2456
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:05,839
Speaker 2: that stuff is still.

2457
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 3: Gonna center on the fact that humans are flawed and

2458
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 3: that not everyone's a willing participating in this system.

2459
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 4: You know.

2460
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 3: And even uh, and even with a new criminal justice

2461
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 3: system that's completely reforms, you're gonna get some wrong convictions.

2462
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna have guilty people walking the streets that that

2463
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 3: they did the shit. You're gonna have innocent people like

2464
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna it's gonna be fucked up because we're human anyway.

2465
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 3: I know your criticism is ain't a certain type person,

2466
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 3: not me necessarily, but no, I was thinking specifically to

2467
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 3: you I said, she gonna write it.

2468
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't.

2469
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 3: I wasn't, but I did want to push back a

2470
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 3: bit regarding that I did it. No one has answered

2471
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 3: the question of what to do. Instead, A lot of

2472
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,200
Speaker 3: people have and do. This is why it frustrates me

2473
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 3: so much to see so many people call themselves abolitionist

2474
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 3: with no sense of the work.

2475
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 2: It takes the work that is currently being done, the

2476
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 2: hitt you of the movement they are appropriating.

2477
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I mean, I was not thinking That's why

2478
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 3: I didn't say it. But I'm not saying I mean,

2479
01:57:58,120 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 3: I don't think I should ever have to say it,

2480
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 3: but clearly not all just specifically talk about a specific type.

2481
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 2: Of person, as you said.

2482
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:10,160
Speaker 3: And you know, the other thing is whatever the solutions

2483
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 3: people have is just gonna someone's not gonna be happy.

2484
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 3: We're talking about criminal justice, We're talking about what we

2485
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,760
Speaker 3: do when people violate the rules of society, and shit,

2486
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 3: someone's not gonna be happy. Was the person violated, the

2487
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,959
Speaker 3: person paying the cost or the penalty of being violating

2488
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 3: someone Like, it's just you know, it's the bad choice

2489
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 3: of good. Try to make the best choice of all

2490
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 3: these bad choices. My goal in writing this email was

2491
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 3: to add to the convo rather than going on some

2492
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 3: not all abolitionist ran. Hopefully it wasn't too bad anyway.

2493
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 3: Love show is always Shanna ps. I would like to

2494
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 3: register my support for Karen's natsisical puns. I laugh every time.

2495
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 3: Give Karen to see us. I theme thank you, Shanna,

2496
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 3: thank you, and uh nah, it wasn't.

2497
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 2: Bad at all.

2498
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 3: Look, this is the shit I'll be talking about, like

2499
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 3: when like you don't have to like send us an

2500
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 3: angry tweet using our hashtag, or you know, say some

2501
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 3: dismissive like past aggressive.

2502
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 2: Shit, or write a bad review. You can just write

2503
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 2: in man.

2504
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 3: I like, as long as we can keep it respectful,

2505
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna disrespect a first person that's being earnest

2506
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 3: about how they feel, you know, I'm not gonna you know,

2507
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 3: as long as they're not disrespecting us, Like, I don't

2508
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 3: know why we wouldn't be able to have a conversation

2509
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 3: off of it, or you know whatever you will call

2510
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:25,879
Speaker 3: this feedback.

2511
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why we can't do that.

2512
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 3: I don't expect everyone to agree with us, and I

2513
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 3: listened to way too many podcasts I don't agree with.

2514
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 3: You could be my fucking friend. I listening a podcast

2515
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 3: You're gonna say something, I'm like, I don't see it

2516
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 3: that way. But that's cool, right, that's fine. Like this

2517
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 3: expectation of like we have to match on everything until

2518
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 3: some and when we don't, we throw people away. It

2519
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 3: has to stop. And I'm not gonna participate in it,

2520
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 3: not over trivial shit as far as like this, because

2521
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 3: I have no power of the criminal justice system by myself,

2522
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 3: and neither do you. I'm not I can't imagine being like, Wow,

2523
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 3: you really wrote in to disagree?

2524
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 2: Fuck you? Wow, that's fucked up. Just do what I say,

2525
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I hate that shit.

2526
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 3: I hate when I hear podcasters to get feedback like

2527
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 3: that and they go off the deep end on somebody

2528
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 3: and like that they.

2529
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 2: Weren't even writing in.

2530
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 3: That wasn't even me, right, all right, dial says Hello,

2531
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 3: Rod and Karen. I'm writing this email to say thanks

2532
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 3: for everything you do. Recently I started to write letters

2533
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,560
Speaker 3: to people who not only inspired me, but have gotten

2534
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:28,400
Speaker 3: me through some tough times.

2535
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 2: So natural I had to start here.

2536
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 3: I mean listening for a while now through at least

2537
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 3: two explanations of Bulletball, I think, and while I haven't

2538
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 3: become a monthly member of the Spirit is willing, but

2539
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 3: the funds aren't there yet.

2540
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 2: I have contributed to a five star review. All right,

2541
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 2: that's all I need.

2542
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 5: Put on the dog.

2543
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,120
Speaker 3: I'm beginning my own freelance journey, and the two of

2544
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 3: you inspired me to keep it, keep at it, caring

2545
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 3: and ride. You two are the best couple in podcasting.

2546
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:55,360
Speaker 3: Oh and I just wanted to take the time to

2547
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:58,160
Speaker 3: appreciate all that you have given people like me much

2548
02:00:58,240 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 3: love and gratitude.

2549
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:01,840
Speaker 2: Dea, Oh thank you baby.

2550
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know everybody can't put a five dollar bill,

2551
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 1: but five stars.

2552
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:07,760
Speaker 2: That matters too.

2553
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 3: This says no subject. Yes, Karen has helped me in

2554
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 3: this episode. I'm struggling with my fear and my ten

2555
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 3: year old son. Currently thank you hashtag say that again?

2556
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh thank you baby, thank you. I think that's from dvance.

2557
02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:29,120
Speaker 3: And lastly, Laura says episode nineteen twenty humping around high

2558
02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:29,760
Speaker 3: riding Karen.

2559
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 2: Kind of a recent listener to the of the show.

2560
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 3: I found you guys from the dem Thrones tag on Twitter,

2561
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 3: probably around season seven the Game of Throngs, and then

2562
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 3: I found out about the podcast properly from the Vice special.

2563
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,360
Speaker 3: Since then, I've been playing your episodes non stop and

2564
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:47,160
Speaker 3: they've saved me from awkwardly quiet office spaces, my soundtrack

2565
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 3: of my twenty minute bike ride to work, and you

2566
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 3: guys are helping me throw a difficult breakup.

2567
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh sorry to hear about the breakup. Glad to be

2568
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:57,360
Speaker 2: of help. I know that stuff sucks.

2569
02:01:57,920 --> 02:01:59,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to let the two of you know how

2570
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 3: much I appreciate your show and just the unpredictability of everything, yo,

2571
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 3: thank you.

2572
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes I worry about that. I don't lie.

2573
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:10,480
Speaker 3: It's probably a big weird insecurity. But sometimes we do

2574
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 3: segments and I'm like, man, I don't know we should

2575
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 3: have talked about love and relationships and marriage that long

2576
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:20,600
Speaker 3: because I definitely didn't plan it, and you know, or

2577
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 3: this Bobby Brown tangent just took twenty minutes.

2578
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if motherfuckers are into this, but you know,

2579
02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 2: and then you know.

2580
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:30,360
Speaker 3: Sometimes then it's sometimes it be those things that we

2581
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:34,160
Speaker 3: get the most, like Twitter and Facebook and emails from

2582
02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 3: so you never know.

2583
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 2: Just try to be authentic.

2584
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Speaker 3: I'd be lying if I said I didn't have to

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02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,400
Speaker 3: pull my bike to the side of the road, laughing

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02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 3: the whole of me imagining mc hamm a bouncing his

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Speaker 3: dick all over the place to impress these women with

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Speaker 3: pump pumps and pumps or whatever nonsense.

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Speaker 5: It is fucking hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Hey, check out that YouTube and it's real good y'ob

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Speaker 3: you guys keep doing what you do.

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Speaker 2: Love from Ireland, Laura, Oh, shout out to Ireland.

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Speaker 5: These say about there and I all around your bike, baby,

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Speaker 5: don't get hit by.

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Speaker 2: No vehicles were international Leave us A five star review.

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Speaker 2: So we could read the Ireland review.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, y'all, that's it. This is a kind

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Speaker 3: of a long feedback show. But we had a good

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Speaker 3: time and I did too, talked about.

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Speaker 2: Serious things and silly things. We will, of course be

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Tuesday, we have the guys from comedy Outliers, Mike and

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Speaker 3: Brandon back on the show.

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Speaker 2: Really looking forward to that. So yeah, we're talking.

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Speaker 3: And then also Tuesday morning, I'm interviewing Bossy about her book.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling truth but I'm lying, which I cannot stress

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Speaker 3: enough how brilliant that book is.

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Speaker 2: And I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: I talked to her all the time, but I can't

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Speaker 3: wait to interview her about that book. Because you guys

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Speaker 3: are really in for a treat. So all right, that

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Speaker 3: should be it, man, So until next time, I love you.